Risky Business

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Hi, everyone. Well, I
have a big show for you today.

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I have one of my heroes,
Jimmy Barn on the show today, So

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we're going to see if Jimmy remembers
me. But I grew up with Jimmy

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in you know, high school.
He's from Skokie. I'm from Lincolnwood.

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And I'll never forget the iconic scene
in Risky Business where there's some guy knocking

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on the window when Tom Cruise is
having his interview and the guy's like,

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hey, hey, I got my
friend here, Ruben, and can he

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come to the party and whatever else
he says, And that's my friend Jimmy

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Barn And it was a really amazing
moment in the theater because we only saw

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movies in the theater back then.
It was like a year after like Jimmy

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graduated and we're all in the theater
in Skokie and there's our friend Jimmy,

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and the whole theater erupted with there's
Jimmy. So I've got Jimmy on the

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show today. Jimmy's done more than
Risky Business. He was on Facts of

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Life, he was on Quincy,
he was on Mash, he was on

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Heart to Heart. I think he
got murdered on Heart to heart, and

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he is here to tell us today
all about his illustrious acting career. He's

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a real estate agent now, so
maybe we'll hear about that too. So,

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without any more hesitation, I bring
you Jimmy Barron. Shit happens,

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bad shit, good shit, crazy
shit, and it usually happens when we

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least expect it. So tune into
the Shit that Happens to Me Podcast and

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hear me and everyone I meet tell
they're shitty stories. You'll laugh, you'll

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cry. You probably won't cry.
Why would you cry? These are mostly

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funny stories. You'll learn a few
lessons, probably not. It's definitely not

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that kind of podcast, but you
will have a great time. Honestly,

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you can't make this shit up.
Hi. Everyone, welcome to another episode

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of the Ship that Happens to Me
Podcast. I am so excited to be

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here today with my special guest,
Jimmy Baron. Hi. Jimmy, Hey,

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how are you? I'm good?
How are you? I'm doing great?

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That's I don't get asked to be
interviewed too often, so thank you.

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Well. I don't know why,
because you're infamous as far as I'm

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concerned, So I don't know if
you remember how I know you? Do

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you know how I know you?
So you said something about I took you

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home from school or something once.
I embarrassed, But I'm embarrassed that I

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don't remember something from forty five years
ago. But yeah, that's okay.

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So we I'm from lincoln Wood and
we went to Niles West together and I

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have a vague memory of you driving
me home from school one day. Now

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it's possible that I made that up, but i'm because I don't know why

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you would have driven me home from
school one day, but I feel like

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you might have. So that's my
memory. I'm sticking with it. But

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okay, yeah, you know,
so it's okay that you don't remember.

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I won't be I won't be hurt
because it was forty five years ago.

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But um, you know, I
introduced you before you before you got on

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the show, and talked about like
why you're so infamous because of your acting

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career, and there is a very
famous scene in my mind, at least

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I think in other people's minds also
from the movie Risky Business that you were

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in, and so I kind of
want to start there and just hear about

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what that was like for you to
be in that scene. Maybe you can

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describe that a little bit, what
the scene was and how you got that

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role, and then I'd like to
tell you like my experience of that.

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So back then, this was before
talkies and we did that. No,

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it was nineteen I think it was
nineteen eighty two. I went out to

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LA to be an actor, and
you know, was doing a bunch of

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auditions like actors do out there,
and I actually had been asked to audition

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for the lead role, for the
Joe role. Yeah, yeah, And

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I read for that a couple of
times, and they called maybe even more.

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I mean they were very serious about
me, I guess at some point.

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And then, as my agent explained
to me, and I'm vague my

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distant memory, but my agent I
do call me and said that they were

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able to get this guy Tom Cruise, who at the time, let's see

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what would have been out by then, I think Taps was out and do

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the right thing, and so he
had he was getting a name in Hollywood.

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I think like the casting people all
knew who he was at that point,

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but he was definitely not a big
superstar. Um. In fact,

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risky business is kind of the movie
that well, Risky Business, they say,

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is the movie that launched him,
um into the into the universe as

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a star, and then Top Gun
made him like a superstar anyway, So

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they said, um, you know, so he's he's doing the role.

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But the producers really liked you and
they would still like to have you involved

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in the movie in some in some
fashion. Um. And I had told

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them at some point, yeah,
you know, I'm from Chicago. And

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because Risky Business was filmed in Chicago, and in fact, the interior of

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the of of Joel's house was set
up, Um, if the gym at

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Niles East, if you knew that, no, that's amazing. So the

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exterior, yeah, the exterior of
the house was some house in Highland Park.

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You can probably look it up somewhere
and find out where it is.

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But they built all the entire interior
set in the gym at Niles East.

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Oh boy. So they knew that
I was going to be back in Chicago

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and that would have been a role
that they would have cast locally. But

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they said, or a partners,
their role is a little you know a

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little much. But um, and
they said, you know, would you

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want to do this little thing?
Now that scene originally was a much longer

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scene. So, um, when
that scene was written in the original script,

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like I come to the window and
I'm knocking on the window and Joel,

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can you get my cousin Ruben in
from Skulky And he says Jimmy by

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the way he calls me Jimmy in
the movie. And that was totally ad

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lib because okay, yeah, totally
ad litt But then in the in the

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original scene, how it was written
like I banging on the window and banging

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on the window and then the window
breaks and it's like a whole two page

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or three page scene where I don't
even remember what happened. I remember,

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like the whole thing was like two
or three pages. But then I show

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up the day of filming and they
hand me like the one page and like,

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oh yeah, that's been all edited
down. So so I you know,

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I mean, it was it was
a very it was a very cool

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thing to be part of. Absolutely, And in fact, the three day

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shoot that was a three day,
twelve hour a day shoot for that one,

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I don't know ten seconds. Yeah, oh boy, So you did

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you have to do that more than
once? That scene multiple multiple times and

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I remember Tom Wood. He would
do it and then he and the director

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would kind of scurry off into the
corner and just talk for like twenty minutes

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about the scene, about I don't
know what, and then he would come

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back and do it the exact same
way, and then y'all cut and they

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go off into the corner and talk
for another twenty minutes about whatever, and

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then come back and do it the
same way. Now there are different angles,

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so like if you've never if you
don't know how how movies are made,

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they use one camera and they'll do
the same scene from multiple angles,

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and then they edited it all together. So typically it's going to take a

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long time to do even one small
team because you know that now we need

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to do a two shot of Jimmy
and Tom. Now we need to do

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a two shot of Tom and Richard
Maser, and then a three shot of

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all of them and a close and
the close up, so do the scene

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multiple times. Yeah, but it
was cool because the whole time I'm just

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sitting there in the window, and
while they're setting up the lights and the

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camera and they're setting all this,
I'm just sitting there talking to Tom Cruise.

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That must have been awesome. Was
that fun? Was he nice?

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It was pretty cool. Yeah,
he was a great guy. You know,

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all the stuff that's been oppressed about
him over the years. Way,

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he's a control free he's a scientologist, he's this and whatever. I just

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remember him to be a very nice
guy. Yeah. And he called you

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Jimmy. He called me Jimmy.
And in fact, because my parents have

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they used to have a condo out
in Lake Geneva. And we finished filming

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on a Friday, and we had
gotten kind of friendly over the that two

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or three day period, and I
had invited I said, hey, you

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want to go out and hang out
on my parents had like a little ski

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boat. You want to go hang
out on the boat on the lake,

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you know, this weekend if you're
not doing anything. And he said,

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yeah, sure, that sounds great. And then like Friday, he said,

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I can't. We're doing some weekend
filming. I can't unfortunately, you

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know, but again at the time, I mean, he was a star,

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but he wasn't what he is now, which is arguably the biggest name

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Hollywood right right, And who played
Ruben? Like, did you know this

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guy? He didn't speak, He
did not speak. I don't know his

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name. He was some guy that
was cast or he was some extra that

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they pulled out. I don't know. Um, you know something else I

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remember about filming that that my friends
you know, always find interesting at least.

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So all the girls at the party
were all playboy bunnies from downtown.

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They all worked at the play and
Yeah, and the dressing room that we

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all had, we all shared the
same dressing room, which was basically the

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boy room at the gym. Right, So dressing room I was in there

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like getting I would get in,
getting into my wardrobe whatever with all the

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playboy bunnies from that sounds awful.
It was terrible. Yeah, So when

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you were outside this window, you
weren't really outside then, were you.

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You were just on the other side
of the set. Right, and I

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went to Niles West, So it
was kind of especially fun or funny filming

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that at night, right, and
now is East had that closed by then?

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Yeah, because it was well it
was filmed over the summer, okay,

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so they were yeah close. Yeah. Now we a couple of episodes

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ago, we interviewed a sound designer
and he was telling us about how actors

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have to come back sometimes and re
shoot their lines. So because they add

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them in afterwards, did you have
to do that because clearly they wouldn't.

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No one would be able to hear
you on the other side of a window.

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Well no, because you could hear
it enough. First of all,

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they had a mic behind the window. Okay, right, yeah, right,

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so but they it was supposed to
be muffled, right because you know,

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I'm behind a window, so so
you know it would be muffled normally.

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Now they didn't need to do any
of those reshoots or pickups for me.

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I mean there's two things, you
know, Yeah, yeah, all

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right, all right, So I
want to tell you, Um, I

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was telling Maggie, the producer,
my my experience of watching this film in

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the in the movie theater. So
that was back in the day when we

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watched all movies in the movie theater, right, and we all knew you

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know, like everyone from Nile's West
knew you were in this movie. And

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so when you went I didn't,
Yes, I'm you know you were,

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So I'm trying to remember because I
don't. I didn't know you super well,

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but I think you were in some
of the plays at Nolethwest. Yeah,

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so and we all knew you went
off to Hollywood to become an actor.

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So we knew that you were in
this movie, we just didn't know

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when. And so I probably went
with my friends to see this movie and

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we're watching the movie and then there
you are in the window, and literally

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the whole theater erupts. Jimmy,
I can't believe you don't really, Yes,

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the whole the whole theater is like, there he is. And it

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wasn't even like there were one or
two people going be quiet, because I

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think everybody kind of like new,
you know, And we just watched that

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scene and we were like, oh
my god, that was derry. So

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that was really exciting for everyone back
home. That's very funny because you know,

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I mean I lived in LA at
the time, and I mean,

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I I'm still to this day best
friends with the group of guys that I

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was best friends with in high school. But I didn't, I mean,

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I had no idea that or at
least I don't remember that that was a

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big thing at all. Yeah,
yeah, for sure, now you know,

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and you know, other things there
as well. I've done some other

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shows and occasionally, you know,
I would you know, an email.

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Well, I didn't get an email
there was no such thing. I get

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a phone call. So, um, I was looking at your page recently

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and um, I was stalking your
page but just in prep, you know,

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for the for the episode today,
and you posted this video, this

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YouTube video. You posted this like
a long time ago, nine years ago

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at least. Um, you have
like clips of different parts that you've done,

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and oh yes, yeah, yeah, Jimmy barn actor extraordinaire. And

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UM, I have to say,
like I didn't realize you know what else

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you had been on. So I
you were on an episode of mash That

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was a very funny bit that you
did on that episode of Mash. Um,

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and you were on the Facts of
Life. It was the very first

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thing I ever did. Uh,
And it was one line, um,

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and that I you know, I
was when. So what was significant was

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that m to get into the Screen
Actors Guild, you know, you have

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to you have to have a role, you have to have a part to

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get you into the Screen Actors Guild. I don't know how it is now,

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but this is back end of the
day. But you couldn't get a

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part unless you were in the Screen
Actors Guilt. So it was it was

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very hard to get like a producer
had to write a letter to the guild

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explaining why they were using you as
opposed to somebody who was already in the

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union. And then they would,
you know, give you this role and

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get you in. And I had
my dad knew somebody who knew somebody who

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knew somebody that do a producer and
you know, something crazy like that.

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and I did. I had a
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of Facts of Life, UM.
And I did a quincy. Yeah.

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I did a spot on The Old
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couple of things and a couple of
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nothing but I, you know,
stay, Yeah, I did that because

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you know, people have asked me, why didn't you stick with Why didn't

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you continue going down that path?
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to get it out of my system, Like I experienced enough of it to

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know what it was like and to
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I wanted to do after all.
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and I went into other thing and
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radio after that. Yeah. So
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of the podcast, my podcast,
when my whole intro, I introduced myself

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as you know, Stacy, not
I clinical psychologist, whatever else I say,

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this like like kind of fascination with
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of that stuff, and I haven't
done anything. This is the closest I've

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come to anything, and this is
the right medium for me. By the

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way, Like I don't even think
I was good at acting. I tried

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out for plays and I was always
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you can be the assistant director.
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remember mister Batts from Now the Best, Yeah, so I was. I

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was his assistant director for many many
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of saying, you really can't act
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you, so you can be involved. But um, so you know,

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but I imagine it was like,
you know, challenging, and I

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can't imagine like, you know,
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and this rejection and it lasts this
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it's a lot of words. Yeah, And it's the frustrating part is I

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think knowing that you're not going to
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through no fault of your own.
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part on Happy Days, and I
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the series, and they told my
agent he was, you know, Jimmy,

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he was the best. He was
really great. We loved him.

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time I did and like so you
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many things that are out of your
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you're reading lines. I didn't find
it that satisfying. It's a lot of

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work and there's just not as much
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you get, you know, to
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from it, right, Um,
you know. I ended up going into

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radio years later and was on the
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that's how I you know, that
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it was on the air here in
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and we had a very big show, a very successful show. And I

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loved that work. I mean I
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you know, you're on the air, you're being yourself, You're not being

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you're not reading lines, you're not
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it's all you. And I liked
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show? So? I was on
a show called The Morning X. It

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was on a radio station called ninety
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in the early nineties through mid two
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station in the alternative music world in
Chicago would be you know, it was

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like the XRT of Chicago, let's
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they relaunched that radio station. Ninety
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twenty years ago now, maybe ten
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they just recently relaunched this radio station
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they are running in the morning our
old shows from the nineties, like

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every morning they're running all stuff.
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really work because now I wake up
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the radio and hear my radio show
from twenty five years ago. Do you

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like to listen to that? Do
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uh so so I don't think she
loves uh, you know, some of

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the things that came out of my
mouth, but yeah, she gets it.

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so you were like you had a
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had there was three yeah, yeah
there it was The Morning Acts with Barnes,

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Leslie and Jimmy. It was Steve, Barnes, Leslie, fram H

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and myself and we had a very
big show for many years here in Atlanta.

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back then. Yeah, Okay,
I have a friend, um, Andy

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Riggs and he's a morning show host. Not in Atlanta, but he was

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in Milwaukee for several years. And
oh, okay, he's now in Houston.

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So yeah, but oh that's a
good Yeah. Yeah, he's very

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happy in Houston. And yeah yeah, yeah. And when I left radio,

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it was the right time because radio
is not you know, what it

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used to be and h And also
I felt like I kind of I had

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done it for a long time and
I didn't want to move anymore. I

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had a son, and I just, you know, as I got to

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that stage in my life, I
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in the Enter Hayman business anymore.
So yeah, yeah, you had a

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good run. So from radio to
television, the movies, I went backwards.

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come back on the station. They
oh they have day. I just don't,

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you know, I have a business
now and I have a life that

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is pointed a different direction, and
I'm very very busy with my real estate

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business and I just don't have I
just don't have the time to also,

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you know, do a morning radio
show. Yeah sure, right of course.

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So any um, any like funny
stories of things that you know happened

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to you during this you know,
um, during your career and entertainment.

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You know you told us that you
were actually, you know, auditioning for

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the part of Joel. You know
that's interesting. I didn't know that.

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And um, you told us about
the mash thing. What happened with that.

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I also want to mention that I
think in the Heart to Heart episode,

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I think you get murdered, don't
you. At the end of that,

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I do get killed. My murder
is like what the whole episode is

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about? Who killed? I don't
remember my character's name, but then the

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hearts and I will say it is
the worst acting of all times that I

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was so bad in that. I
was horrendous in that terristingly bad in that

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episode, you know, just like
so, I mean over I can't even

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describe it, but when I watch
it, that's the only thing I watched

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that I just makes me shudder.
Well, you were kind of like a

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bad guy, you know, like
you overheard them talking. I think about

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some something. You you come in
after hours and in the I just watched

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this and you open like the like
stealing something, aren't you. No?

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I were working at a winery and
I find out that the people running the

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winery it's the Heart's Winery and the
but the people running the winery are taking

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cheap bottles of wine and slapping the
Heart label. So I broke into the

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Bad Guys office late at night to
try to get these labels so I could

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like prove that they were doing Nefaria
things. I see and they okay,

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they catched me foiling their plan,
yes, and shoot me. Yeah,

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okay. So did you get to
meet um who was that step Stefani,

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Robert Wagner and Define Powers Powers?
Yes? Yeah, did you get to

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meet them? I didn't because my
scene was not with them and it was

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shot on a different day. And
when I did Quincy because I had like

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a kind of a cool part on
Quincy on one episode. But I didn't

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get to meet Jack Cludman because I
didn't have any scenes with him. Yeah.

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Alda doing Mash because he actually was

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the director of that episode. Oh
how was he? Well? And also

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I was in a scene with him
that's right now? You were You got

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up yeah in your robe and ran
out? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

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How was Alan Alda? Couldn't been
nicer? He signed the front of my

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script that still is hanging in my
house. And it's funny because later years

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later I became friend friends with his
daughter, one of his daughters who was

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in an acting class of mine,
and we became friends and I actually went

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to an Easter egg hunt at his
house some year. And um, last

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year, my wife and I were
in New York and we were walking to

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a show. And as we're walking
to the show, a limo pulls up

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at this restaurant. We're walking by
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have I said akre, I'm like,

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oh, sweetie, hell, they'll
totally remember me. I was at

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his house. Yeah, I was
friends with his wife, his daughter Elizabeth.

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So I like flag him down as
he's walking into this restaurant. And

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I think also, right now he
may be dealing with some uh like maybe

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some or just like you know,
cognitive issues possibly um but uh Anyway,

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I said, hey, mister all
Jimmy Baron, I'm friends. I'm friends

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with your friends daughter Elizabeth as at
your house bag in nineteen eighty two at

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a direct thing. Yeah, And
he like looked at me like I was

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you know, freak of the week, I mean, no idea, and

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I think his wife was kind of
oh, that's very nice, thank you,

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very nice. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, and then Ertie moved me

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right, m hm oh poor Ellen
all the what a great actor? Yeah,

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but very nice man. Yeah.
You know, I think that's just

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like funny because when and clearly you
knew Alan, But when we see actors

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that we've watched, you know,
for so long and this show or that

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show or that movie, we feel
like we know them, like literally,

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and they clear I mean they obviously
have no idea who we are and might

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feel very weirded out by you know, all these people going, hey,

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your character was so great or whatever. But yeah, yeah, well,

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you know, in radio even more
so because actors even you know, most

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people understand that actors aren't playing a
role. But you know, we did

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a radio show that was on five
days a week where we did share our

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lives, where we did talk about
our family, our kids, and our

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spouses and girlfriends and boy whatever.
So that was very normal and still to

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this day, people who would come
up to me and say, oh,

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I feel like I know everything about
you, you know, and a lot

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of times they knew a lot about
Oh boy, I know that phenomena is

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happening with podcasting now. Also probably
not with my podcast, but with you

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know, like people who have pretty
regular, famous podcasts that people talk about

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all the time, how they feel
like they're they know all these things about

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these people and you know it's like
they've invited a friend over, you know,

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so right right, and sometimes you
know it's it's accurate, but you

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know, uh, there were parts
of me that, um, you know

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that I that I kept private.
Sure, of course, of course I

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would hope. So yeah, so
what was the role you played in New

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Heart Show? Okay, it wasn't
even about they were at a To say,

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to call it a role is like
not, okay, it's not what

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I was. I was in an
episode where uh, Bob and his friends

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were at a Knicks game, and
um, I was a Knicks ball boy

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and like the ball gets overthrown and
it winds up in Bob's lap or something

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like that, and uh and then
I just like came over to him and

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said, hey, can I have
the ball back? And I was in

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my Knicks ball boy. I mean
it was you know, aimless. I

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mean these were you know, yeah, one line, right, but back

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anytime you had any line, like
you auditioned for it. Now now I

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don't know, maybe they give these
roles occasionally to extras. I'm not sure.

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But for many years I was an
extra. I made my living just

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as an extra, and I was
on many episodes of The Love Boat,

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just like in the background on the
boat, and in fact I was so

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I don't know, if you know, like I was Fred Grandy's stand in.

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So like the stand in is the
person who when they're setting up the

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lights and the camera for a scene, they get somebody to stand where the

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actor would normally stand and just stand
there that they could, you know,

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set up all the lights and sound
and whatnot, and then when it was

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all set, the actual actor would
come in so that the actor would just

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have to stand two hours and do
nothing. Because I was about the same

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height and size as Gopher, they
made me his stand in for a couple

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of seasons, so um, you
know. And that was also that was

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not on a boat. I mean
they did, I think they did do

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a few episodes on a real boat, but that was all done inside of

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the studio, right right, right, Yeah, I was gonna say Bob

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Newhart's probably the reason why I became
a psychologist because I was obsessed show.

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Yeah you know it was. I
loved that show and um, you know

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it takes place in this high rise
in Chicago. Although I never actually worked

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as a psychologist in Chicago. I
left Chicago UM to do my internship and

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never returned. But where I live
in Milwaukee. I live in Milwaukee,

410
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:52.759
so oh yeah. So originally from
Lincoln Wood, did my you know um,

411
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.960
went to grad school, went to
you of Ie for college, went

412
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:04.160
to UM Northwestern for grad school,
and then met my UM now husband in

413
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.079
grad school and we moved to New
York to do I did my internship there,

414
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:13.160
he did his post doc and then
he went to Connecticut and we were

415
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:20.359
never supposed to live in Milwaukee,
but we moved here temporarily twenty eight years

416
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.720
ago. So yeah, yeah.
One of my very best friends from growing

417
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.480
up is a psychiatrist in Milwaukee.
I know who that is, I'll bet

418
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:36.799
you yeah, Bobby, Yeah,
Bobby, huh Yeah. When I first

419
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.839
saw him in UM Milwaukee, like
the very first time, because you know,

420
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.960
you don't expect to see people from
you know, Lincoln winn and Skulkie

421
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.240
in Milwaukee. There's quite a few
people. But when I first saw him,

422
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.680
one of the first things I said
to him was, Hey, I

423
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:57.680
remember that you came to school one
day for Halloween dressed as a toilet?

424
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.160
Do you remember? Do you remember
that? I don't remember. Yeah,

425
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:07.200
yes, he came literally dressed as
a toilet. He had like a cardboard

426
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.639
like he was a big jokester in
high school. He was just like,

427
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.639
I don't remember. He was really
silly and I didn't know him well,

428
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.360
but I mean I knew that he
was really silly, and so it was

429
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.679
just, you know, on par
for him to come dressed as a toilet.

430
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.760
And he's a very serious psychiatrist now, so he was kind of like,

431
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.519
oh yeah, ha ha, But
no, I know that he did

432
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:34.119
that. Well, you know in
the yearbook. Oh well, you know

433
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:39.559
not you know, get all to
hyper focused on Niles West. But another

434
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:45.920
classmate of what year did you graduate
high school? Eighty nineteen eighty right,

435
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:50.559
yeah, you're one year after me. But who was my best friend in

436
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:55.639
high school? Bob Leavey Um went
on to be a very big producer in

437
00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:01.239
Hollywood. In fact, produced three
of the biggest TV shows in the early

438
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:09.960
two thousands. Um he produced gossip
Girl, Vampire Diaries, and a show

439
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:15.800
called Pretty Flyers, which were all
three very big hits. Yes, well

440
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:21.599
we'll have to talk after the episode. Maybe you can connect me in my

441
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.320
unrequited search for fame. But there
you go, yeah, there you go.

442
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.480
Um, but that's uh yeah,
yeah, you would have been one

443
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:38.039
year behind me. Yeah yeah.
Um. You know most of my most

444
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:44.960
of my funny stories though, um
were more from radio for my days on

445
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:52.480
the air and radio than necessarily in
um uh you know, acting on you

446
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.079
know, and acting. I mean
I don't remember a lot of them,

447
00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.320
but there just wasn't because you know, it was a very it's a acting

448
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:06.320
is very transient kind of life,
right, Um. Yeah, you go

449
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.119
in, you do your audition,
and then you leave. Oh I will

450
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:15.119
tell you a very cruel story,
Okay, Okay that ties in with Risky

451
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:22.000
Business and all of this, and
ties in with ties in with how great

452
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:30.079
a guy I thought Tom Cruise was. Okay, So after Risky Business,

453
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:35.599
I m a few months later I
got this part on the facts of life.

454
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:44.119
And when you tape one of those
like sitcoms, the way it's it's

455
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.639
a week long thing. You go
in on like Monday and then you rehearse

456
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:52.239
for two or three days, and
then on Friday is when they tape the

457
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.639
shows in front of an audience.
So I was there, you know,

458
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.960
on the I think it was the
Universal set all week. So during downtime

459
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:06.880
I would often walk around the studio
and kind of pop my head into other

460
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.599
sound stages just to see what other
shows were being done. So I'd heard

461
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:17.400
that Sean Penn was at the studio
on the sound stage next door filming a

462
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.079
show, a movie call that he
was called Crackers. I don't remember I

463
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.119
think that it was, but I
want to say, I'll be call I'll

464
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:30.519
go watch. I'll go watch Sean
Penn filmed this movie. So I go

465
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.559
in, I sneak in the back
and what And as I'm watching, I

466
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:39.760
realize I'm standing next to Tom Cruise
again. So he was friends with Sean

467
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.400
Penn, and I guess he was
also doing something on the lot, so

468
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.840
he was there to hang out with
his buddy to you know, watch them,

469
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:53.000
to watch him do that movie.
So I went up to him,

470
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:57.599
and he of course remembered me because
I just worked with him like two or

471
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.760
three months ago. And he's like, oh, hey, Jimmy, what

472
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.840
are you doing here? And I
say, doing an episode of Facts of

473
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.079
Life, you know, you know, kind of trying to brag that I

474
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:13.239
was No, I was not an
out of work actor. And he says,

475
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.639
oh, and this was on Friday, and I said, yeah,

476
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.440
we're taping it a little bit later
this afternoon, and he said, he

477
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.920
said, oh, that's cool.
Maybe I'll come, you know, stop

478
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.039
buying watch and that'd be great,
thinking like, yeah, right, okay,

479
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.840
Tom Cruise is going to walk two
steps to go watch me tape a

480
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:37.039
TV show. So we start taping
this episode that day and out of the

481
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.360
corner of my eye I looked past
like one of the cameras and there's Tom

482
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:46.719
Cruise. Oh my god. It
was like crazy. And had the movie

483
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:53.079
been released already? Like Risky Business? No, Risky Business was not released

484
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:58.639
at that point. Yeah, it
had not been released. That's amazing though.

485
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.280
Yeah, but he he really did, Uh he came to watch.

486
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:07.639
I mean he was great guy.
Yeah, So wow, do you know

487
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.920
all the scientology he wants, he
can do all the you know whatever,

488
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.519
jumping on couches and I think he
still work. Yeah, and you know

489
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:22.159
what Mission Impossible is still Uh yeah, I missed that can you say that

490
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.800
again? Mission Impossible is still what
I said, Mission Impossible is still one

491
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.440
of my favorite movie franchises. It's
a great movie. Yeah, the whole

492
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.920
thing. The is it the very
first one where he comes down from the

493
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:40.400
rope from the ceiling and he's he's
suspended in air. Yeah, I think

494
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:44.599
that's the first one. That's such
a great scene. Those are great movies.

495
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.920
They're all great movies. He makes
a great movie, yeah for sure.

496
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
anyway, um, yeah, but

497
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:58.719
but most of the most of the
other you know, interesting you know,

498
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:04.599
celebrity stories. I have our from
my days in radio, more than more

499
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:09.280
than movies. Okay, well,
we're going to run out of time today,

500
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.800
but maybe, um, maybe you
can tell me some of those.

501
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.119
Maybe we'll have you back on the
show. We can hear some of part

502
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:21.800
two of your interesting radio stories.
That would be great. Would love to

503
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.280
those. I have a lot of
them. Okay, great, Well,

504
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.800
thank you so much, Jimmy for
taking the time. I really appreciate it.

505
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:34.480
And um, it was great to
reminisce about all those things and hear

506
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:39.559
all of your fun stories. And
yeah, I hope, I hope.

507
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:44.000
Well, thank you for inviting Yeah, yeah, it was a pleasure.

508
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:49.880
I'm glad we could connect. Got
my friend UM who's hasn't been listening to

509
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.199
the podcast but wants to listen to
this episode. Um. I was like,

510
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:55.519
hey, can you connect with Jimmy
for me and tell him I'm not

511
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:59.440
a serial killer? And he's like, well, I'm still not sure you're

512
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:01.360
not a serial killer, but I'll
certainly reach out to Jimmy for you.

513
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.880
So Adam Keino, oh, Adam, Yeah, of course I know.

514
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.559
Adam Kino. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Adam ko

515
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:13.320
Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely,
all right, you take care, Jimmy,

516
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.199
have a good night. So that
was my friend Jimmy Barron, who

517
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:22.039
played Guy in the Window from Risky
business radio host from Atlanta and now a

518
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:28.679
successful real estate agent. What a
fun interview. Wasn't that fun? Yeah?

519
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.239
It really was. It made me. It made me think that he's

520
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:36.519
got a million more stories he could
probably tell for sure. And I want

521
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:42.559
to start this, you know,
outro with an explanation because even though Jimmy

522
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:46.400
and I went to high school together, he did not remember me right away,

523
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:50.920
and I was a little crushed.
I mean, it has been like

524
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:55.480
forty five years, so I suppose
that's understandable. That's older. That's more

525
00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.880
years than you are old, Maggie. But true, yes, but once

526
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.400
the microphone was turned off, I
swear to God this happened. When the

527
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.119
microphone was turned off and I mentioned
my maiden name, he said, Stacy

528
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.400
Steinberg, I remember you. So
it was it was a great moment.

529
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.840
And Maggie, you heard it,
so it really happened. Yeah, you're

530
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:23.559
vindicated. Yeah, he just didn't
know it. Stacy n That's all right,

531
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:28.480
because that's not That's not who went
to Niles West High School. It

532
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.480
was Stacy Steinberg who went to Nile's
West. Now I don't know that he

533
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.519
remembered driving me home from school one
day, but that's okay, you know,

534
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.519
I'll take the win. I'll say. My favorite part of the interview

535
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:49.159
was seeing his reaction to hearing how
the audience in the theater responded to his

536
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.400
scene in the movie Risky Business.
Did I mean? He was like,

537
00:42:53.760 --> 00:43:00.360
really that really happened, Like he
was so touched and like it was really

538
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.880
it was a great moment for like
Skolky, Illinois to have one of our

539
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.039
own being this big movie, and
everyone in the school was really excited to

540
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:16.400
see for his moment and every time. Not that I watched the movie all

541
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:21.599
that often, but if it's on
I will at least watch up to the

542
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.599
point that he shows up in the
windows. So yeah, that was very

543
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:29.320
sweet. He didn't even realize what
a big deal it was to everybody,

544
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.760
which was which was very cool,
Like no one's told him that before.

545
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.280
Yeah. Yeah, And it sounds
like he's had quite a quite a career,

546
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.760
especially in radio since he kind of
since he left the acting world too,

547
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.280
which is which is pretty cool.
I think that he's very well known

548
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.840
for his radio career. Um,
and so you know that the TV the

549
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.360
movie stuff was probably just like an
early kind of blip, and it was

550
00:43:54.519 --> 00:44:00.559
It was interesting hearing some of you
know, um, the opportunity that he's

551
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:05.599
had and even like the missed opportunities, like half my audience probably doesn't even

552
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.320
know what Happy Days even is,
you know. And the fact that he

553
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:13.800
looked a lot like one of the
other actors on the show. I mean

554
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.559
that makes a lot of sense because
he did really kind of look like Scott

555
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:21.079
bow So or Bayo. I don't
know how to say his name, I

556
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:22.920
think by I've always said Beyo.
I don't know, yeah, yeah,

557
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.159
yeah. That's the thing about acting
is that's like being the right place at

558
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:32.000
the right time, but the right
haircut or right nose shape and right it's

559
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:37.480
so many specific things, both inside
and outside of your control. Yeah,

560
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.639
I mean they should like add that
to like what they want the criteria that

561
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.320
they wanted an actor, like make
sure you don't look like any of the

562
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.159
current actors, you know. Yeah, I think they'd probably run into some

563
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:58.079
legal issues then, you know,
well, I guess right, but he

564
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.679
could have you know, I think
it was also kind of cute that he

565
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:07.199
invited Tom Cruise to like his family's
house in Lake Geneva for the weekend.

566
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.159
Like yeah, I mean maybe he
would have gone, you know. Yeah.

567
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.239
He said he had nothing but nice
things to say about Tom Cruise,

568
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.159
so that was nice to hear.
I've heard he's a nice guy despite all

569
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:22.920
the all the jumping culty stuff.
Yeah yeah, right, And yeah,

570
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:30.519
I mean, certainly scientology is quite
worrisome, but yeah, I also wanted

571
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.280
to mention some of the behind the
scenes, which was the whole beginning of

572
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.639
the interview. Started off in Jimmy's
car, so he was on his way

573
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:44.559
home from a sporting event, from
one of his kids, and I was

574
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.800
I was a little worried he was
going to have like a car accident,

575
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.159
and I said, why don't you
just like get to where you're going and

576
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.079
then we can pick up again.
And then he got back in his car

577
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:59.199
again. So I've never I've never
had that happen before. Yeah, the

578
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:05.400
interview really spanned space in addition to
spanning time. It did. Yeah,

579
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.639
have you done any zoom interviews while
someone was in their car before? Oh?

580
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.039
Yeah, well no, not interviews, but many meetings, but not

581
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:17.360
as many interviews. Yeah, zoom
in zoom meetings, well, like face

582
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.960
to face someone's like driving their car, Like, yes, they haven't written

583
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.960
the law to exclude that one yet. I think I would think that you

584
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.159
could probably get a ticket. I
guess no. Like so, I used

585
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.000
to have a boss in my old
job who would always take meetings from his

586
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.960
car, and so he'd be driving
his Tesla and he just like get the

587
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:44.199
angle right up his nose because it
was like in the thing. But he

588
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.480
was so busy, you know,
and it's like are you present here?

589
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:50.559
Why not just say you can't be
at the meeting or turn your camera off,

590
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.679
you know, So that we don't
know you're in the car. Yes,

591
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:58.440
yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm you know, yeah,

592
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.639
but I thought I was. It
was a very it was a very fun

593
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:06.880
interview, and I loved hearing of
all of his stories and you know,

594
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.360
like all this time I had been
trying to reconnect with him and finally was

595
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:15.239
able to and it was all worthwhile, So it's all good. Yeah.

596
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.880
I thought it was a really fun
time too. Yeah. All right,

597
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:23.280
well, thanks Maggie. It was
always fun to chat and do this back

598
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:28.880
and forth with you after our interviews. And uh yeah, and thanks to

599
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:35.280
Jimmy Barron for talking to us thousand
good time. Yeah, thanks, thanks

600
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:42.039
Jimmy, See you soon everyone,
Bye bye bye. Thanks for listening to

601
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.880
my ship. I really appreciate it. Come back and hear more shit next

602
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.440
time on the Ship that Happens to
Me podcast. Do you think I've said

603
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.320
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604
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