April 13, 2023
A Symphony of Vomit

In Episode 76 of The SH*T That Happens to Me, Stacey sits down with writer Noam Gad Weiser to hear about the surprising and sometimes disgusting things that have happened to her while researching her projects.
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In Episode 76 of The SH*T That Happens to Me, Stacey sits down with writer Noam Gad Weiser to hear about the surprising and sometimes disgusting things that have happened to her while researching her projects.
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Hey, everyone, Noam god Wiser
is on the show today. Noam is
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a friend of Maggie's, my producer, and she is a film, television
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and podcast creator. She has also
written screenplays and is currently working on a
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novel something to do with Pickles.
I can't remember the exact name, she
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told me, but we all are
going to pay close attention because she's going
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to be great. Originally from Israel, she has lived in Paris and most
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currently La Noam told me some very
funny stories about the research she does for
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her writing, going to places seeing
some really crazy and funny things. And
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she also told me some very funny
stories about one of her favorite places,
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Jumbos. So stay tuned, it's
on right now. Shit happens, bad
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shit, good shit, crazy shit, and it usually happens when we least
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expect it. So tune into the
Shit that Happens to Me podcast and here
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me and everyone I meet tell their
shitty stories. You'll laugh, you'll cry.
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You probably won't cry. Why would
you cry? These are mostly funny
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stories. You'll learn a few lessons, probably not. It's definitely not that
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kind of podcast, but you will
have a great time. Honestly, you
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can't make this shit up. Hi, everybody, Welcome to another episode of
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the Shit That Happens to Me Podcast. I am so excited to be here
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today with my guest. No,
I'm god Wiser. Hi. No,
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I'm Hi Staisy. Thank you for
pronouncing my name properly. I really appreciate
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it. I was hoping that I
did pronounce it properly, but I got
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a little hint also from Maggie before
we started. So welcome to the Ship
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that Happens to Me Podcast. Usually
I start off the episode with do you
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know how I know you? But
since I've just met you, it might
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be unclear because since we don't really
know each other. But you are friends
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with Maggie. Yes, I am
so Maggie's are my producer? Can you
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tell me, like how how you
came to be friends with Maggie? Oh
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yeah, it's a it's a fun
story. We talk about it in the
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podcast that we hosted together, Maggie
and I Conversations with Friends and Strangers.
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I love to say that I met
Maggie and bumble because I dated her now
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husband's best friend briefly back in twenty
eighteen, and Maggie and I fell in
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love and couldn't let go, and
now here we are almost five years later.
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Hm. So you did a podcast
on I'm with Straw Hut that Conversations
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with Friends and Strangers, that was
based on a Hulu special, a Hulu
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show. Yeah, it was a
companion podcast that wasn't really a companion podcast,
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but it was definitely the after Sally
Rooney's novel Conversation with Surent for Conversations
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with Friends. Huh okay, awesome. Yeah, and then and then the
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show that wasn't that, but your
success was. It was still a lot
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of fun. We learn a lot
of things about ourselves, about relationships,
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about each other. That's fun.
What's wrong with that? Oh? Nothing
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wrong with that. It was great. Honestly, it was lovely. And
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is that something? Have you done
other podcasts? Not yet. We are
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working on another fiction podcast that is
based on one of my pilots that is
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set in Paris but is in English
about stolen art. So that's in development
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but early stages. Fun that I
would definitely not be hosting. I'm only
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writing it. Oh okay, ah, so they need a host for that.
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I think it's going to be an
ensemble. It's going to be like
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a fictional podcast actors and things.
Yeah, no, that's really fun.
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I've listened to a few fictions podcast
so they're like audiobooks, So oh yeah,
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I love it. UM. So
you your main job though, is
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you are a writer and you also
I'm looking on I am BD and it
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says that you are like a production
assistant and a translator for some Yeah,
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I have I have some things there. I definitely need to update that.
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Thank you for reminding me. I'll
put it on my list because there's some
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projects there that I haven't I haven't
done any yet. Some of the projects,
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the earlier projects I was on that
our mostly co productions um are French
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American or Israeli French American or just
French Israeli. And that I that I
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helped with the development company that I
wasn't a writer on, but I was
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more of a creative producer on or
an assistant. One of them started that
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I was the personal assistant to the
director and ended up being really way too
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much. That is actually the movie
that moved me to the US. It's
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a whole other story. So it's
kind of like a happy accident that wasn't
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an accident with getting more and more
involved in the project. But I'll tell
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you, none of these movies are
good any none of them. They're not
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very good, but they're entertaining,
really okay, Yeah, but they're you
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got to work on them. So
that's exciting. Oh, very exciting.
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And I'm a lot and it's great. But that's why I'm like, I
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should put more of more recent things
on there too, Yeah, and then
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more involved in which are great,
and more new and exciting things. But
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I mainly write scripts at this moment
in time, mainly television. A lot
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of it, as television works,
is just scripts that are not going to
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be produced or maybe mainly at this
moment in time, are not produced.
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But it's again I'm learning. I'm
I'm I'm a baby writer, you know,
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I'm just starting out when it comes
to scrutating, and then I have
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my own projects. Fun. So
m I I that sounds like a lot
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of fun to me. Like,
even if you make movies that aren't very
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good, like, that's exciting because
I'm a kind of fame wanna be person,
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So I really enjoy talking to people
who are kind of in the business,
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whether it's writing or doing the sound
or you know, doing the producing
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or the directing. I just am
fascinated with all of that. So,
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yeah, it sounds great to me. So because there's none of that going
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on here in Milwaukee, I wouldn't
know. I've never been to Milwaukee,
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Um, but I definitely want to
go. I hear it gets cold there,
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That is that true? Oh yeah
it was like nine degrees today.
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Yeah, So I mean I I
have a wonderful life here in Milwaukee,
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but I'm not sure that there's any
reason for you to come to Milwaukee really.
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Look, oh we have lovely summers. Well, I love places that
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don't make any sense to go visit. It's one of my passions. And
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that's what I'm going to talk about
today too, is I find a lot
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of inspiration in those places. It's
just like a life that is, you
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know, not very adventures or maybe
adventures in ways that I don't know.
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So it's a different kind of culture. And then seeing it as an outsider
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and just like really small corners and
just how people go about their day I
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find fascinating, Like I you find
production fascinating, and you know, fame,
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and I think supermarkets in foreign countries
are the most interesting things ever.
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But I understand that's a strange thing. That's not everybody. No, I
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mean, should you come to Milwaukee. I hope you'll call me because I'll
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show you around everywhere, try to
do in the summertime when it's really nice
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here. But so tell you have
some you have some funny stories today about
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um. I guess like some of
this shit that's happened to you while you've
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done research for your scripts. So
let's let's hear about it. Yeah,
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So, like, for example,
when I'll go to Milwaukee, it's going
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to be probably I don't know if
it's the same thing. But when I
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first moved out here, out here
to California. So I moved to Los
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Angeles in twenty seventeen very fast.
It's kind of like a job offer.
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I moved from Paris, which is
very different than Santa Monica. I'll tell
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you that. It was kind of
like a really strange culture shock emerginally from
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Israel's Israel to Paris. It's it's
very different. But I was, I
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was ready, and then I thought
I knew LA because I have family here
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and I visited growing up, and
I came after ten or eleven years of
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not being in the US at all. I was like, what is going
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on? And I stayed Christmas here. I didn't get Jewish because I'm Israeli,
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so I didn't go on vacation.
Everyone went out of town. I
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was here for a few months and
one of my uncles said, Okay,
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let's was ever left in town.
Let's all go to Catalina Island, and
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um I went, and I was
like, what is this strange place?
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It doesn't make any sense. I
don't if you've ever been to Catalina Island
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off the coast of Los Angeles,
a little bit front of Long Beach,
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kind of it's a it's about an
hour boat ride, and it's beautiful and
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it's very sweet, and it's very
strange, kind of like old Golden Age
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stars used to go there. Natalie
Natalie Wood died off the coast of catalan
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Anda Avalon, so that happened there. And I found all these things out
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when I'm there, and I'm like, how come there's no there's no murder
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mystery based out here over this?
Like this is such a strange. The
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atmosphere there is so weird, and
it's creepy and foggy, but also very
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beautiful and has a cent your characters, and I fell in love with the
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place. I'm like, I have
to kill some people here, like not
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physically, but um, character wise, because I write murder mysteries mostly.
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I should have said that, sorry, um. And I decide to come
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back to start writing a project.
And I went there to my whole weekend.
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Um, it's great. I make
friends, I go on boats,
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I explore the island. It's there's
to have a pet cemetery. It's a
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very strange place. And I write
a pilot and I work on it for
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like six six or eight months.
I sit and I ran and develop all
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the characters in my world. And
I was like, well, I need
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to go and count steps from the
bar to the beach and then from the
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beach to a to the casino there
they have the casino and I have to
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like do really just a few things
to finalize. I think it was my
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second rewrite at that point, and
I decide to go. It's a Sunday
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and I have work. I was
working, had like my day job was
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something, and there's a marketing job
at a real estate company. Its varies
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before COVID. This is a while
ago, and I go Sunday morning and
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it's like, I just need to
not stay in the night, nonnything.
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I drive, I get the boat, I go and on the way there
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and it's kind of like a huge
catamaran and I'm sitting outside on the deck
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and it's beautiful and the way sometimes
you see whales when when you take the
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boats if it's the right season,
and they're big waves that day, and
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the boat starts rocking up and down
and up and down slowly and just and
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I have like headphones on and I'm
listening to music, and then I like,
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I start seeing movement, and I
was like, a person next to
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me starts throwing up, and then
a person brushes over, gives them a
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bag. They go to take them
to the place where the people that throw
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up throw up. And I'm like, okay, great. I'm looking at
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the water, taking slower videos of
the water, you know, I was
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trying to writing material, going over
my notes, and then I see another
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person start throwing up in the boats
going up and down and up, and
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I'm like, slowly, it's just
the smell of spectacular. It's just everyone
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on the boat, one by one
just starts vomiting, including the people giving
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out the back it's like everyone is
just throwing up. It's a symphony of
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of vomits and people on different you
know, just like turning from green to
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yellow. It was it was hilarious. I was fine, honestly, Like
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by the end of it, you
see kind of like the juices rolling on
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the ground with the boat. You're
like, okay, this is a little
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not yeah, but I was fine. I was just like disgusted, but
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not nauseous in any way. Yea. And it was just like I was
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just looking at them, but there
was literally I don't and maybe one little
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boy that didn't throw up except me
that was there. Wow, And I
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think that is it. I'm like, okay, I'm definitely putting this in
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the pilot, which I did.
But I get so, I get to
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the island, I do all the
things. I go to the bar,
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the restaurant, I kind of all
the steps, and then there there's an
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announcement is that all the boats are
canceled because of high winds because it was
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too rocky, the water is just
too rough to be able to sail back.
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Because when I'm stuck on this island, it's Sunday night. The first
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boats go up at six in the
morning, even with the boat and traffic,
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there's no way I'm going to make
it to work on time Monday.
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So I have a weird text my
boss, so like I'm stuck on an
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island. I'm sorry, I won't
be able to make it to a type
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but I'll take But I see it
as a good opportunity. The only motel
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that had a room was a very
sticky motel that I really enjoy. I
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really like the weirdest motels. I
do have a lot of character. I
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definitely, you know, I used
a towel as a pellowcase. But and
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I had to buy pajamas. I
had to, Like I had nothing.
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It's like what I need. I
needed underwear, I need socks. I
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got. The only underwear I found
on the island were like Taco dinosaur underwear
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that I still have just because they
were hilarious. Yeah, and I see
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it as opportunity to explore. And
I go to the spar that I went
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to when I first went there to
research, and uh, there's a girl
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on the bar. There's a that
is getting hit on by these two aging
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cowboys that I don't know what they're
doing there, and she's like looking at
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me, like rolling her eyes and
like, okay, I'm going to come
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to her aid and we chat.
We take pictures with those guys cowboy hats.
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The guys leave and she starts talking
to me and turns out that her
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brother used to be the bartender of
that bar and I remember him, and
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he had just passed and I'm like, oh, but I remember him and
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his girlfriend was there and they were
fund. She was like yeah, and
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they broke up and then he did
it this girl and then they had a
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kid, and then he died from
this illness. And we start drinking and
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she's like, okay. I told
her that I'm writing that I'm writing about
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aval and she's like, okay,
I have to take you. There's a
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nightclub. Do you know about the
nightclub? Like, what do you mean?
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There are only three people in this
town? What nightclubs? There's a
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secret nightclub. And she takes me
to that secret nightclub, which is on
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top of a supermarket and it is
a nightclub, but there we're only about
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three people there. She's like,
well, it gets busier later, and
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it's like one in the morning at
this point, I'm like, I don't
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know what is later? Yeah,
wait, how much later. Yeah,
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so I said, our friends show
up. I'm like, okay, I'm
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gonna go. I find myself my
way back to my room and there's a
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symphony and this is again different symphony, a little disgusting. But you just
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hear everyone around you having sex,
because the only reason people go to this
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island is like on you know,
a couple couple trips. And I don't
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think it's honeymoons, but I honestly
I don't know. It's not a very
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romantic motel. But the walls are
moaning, so I am really drunk at
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this point. I did not think
I was going to stay in this island.
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Like laying in bed just looking at
the ceiling. Everything is now I'm
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nauseous, everything is floating. All
I hear is everyone just moaning and having
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sex around me. But it just
like sounds like there's a whole pack of
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people, but coming from all the
directions. So you know, it's like
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different rooms, different hotels. It's
it's very yeah, it's very close together.
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That was great, Yeah, and
then the next day was really rough.
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Yeah. I definitely like I woke
up, threw up, not on
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the boat. Before going on the
boat. It is like I can't.
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I'm too hungover, only had like
three hours of sleep. No, on
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the woe back, the wope back. The water is definitely not storey.
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Everything was fine, but I was
not doing too well. That was a
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really that was a great trip.
A lot of it, A lot of
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it. Did it did make it
into the rewrite, which was good.
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Did you murder people on the island? No? Apparently they'd die on their
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own. That's not funny. I'm
sorry, Um, I did not mean
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No, I'm not going to say
who the murderer is, okay, because
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I maybe done. No. No, it's a it's a it's it's a
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pilot, so there are a lot
of there are a lot of options.
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Yeah, I did get a lot
of material. It's it's a fun one.
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I really do recommend visiting Catalina Island. Catalina. Yeah, Avalon on
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Catalina Island. Um, that bar
is also great. I think it's there
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are two bars on the island.
That's the one that has a pool table.
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Okay, did you play pool?
I did? Yes, I did
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play pool. Okay, I don't. I'm not particularly good at it,
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but I do enjoy it very much
as an activity. I have to say.
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Maggie does too, and it's something
that we also do together. She
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accompanied Bet in some strange adventures.
I'm like, I want to go to
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this place. Do you want to
join me? She's like sure, Yeah.
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So you said the second thing that
is also the thing I'm super interested
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in after like while I write and
movies and all that stuff. Was you
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said murder mystery? So I love
murder mysteries. I listen to murder mysteries.
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I watch murder mysteries. If someone
says to me, have you seen
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this show? And I say,
well, if someone murdered in it,
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And if they say no, I'm
like, well then I probably have not
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seen it. Yeah. I probably
won't be seeing it unless you know someone
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is violently you know, murdered and
chopped up and you know things like that.
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So, which which crime shows your
favorite show at the moment? Well,
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I don't know which is my favorite? But I just finished Snow Girl.
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I don't know if you saw that
um which takes place in Spain.
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Um. So that was like a
new Net Netflix thing And is it about
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cocaine? No? No, no, And there's really not even even any
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snow But I don't know, So
I don't know. Actually I never figured
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out why it was called snow Girl. But this girl is kidnapped, so
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it's it's about that. And um, I like you know, murder and
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horror like American Horror Story and um, things like that. I just saw
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that there's um follow the House of
Ushers coming. Mike Flanagan is going to
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do that, and I love all
of his shows, like um, Murder,
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Hunting of Hillhouse, like my all
time favorite show. I couldn't make
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it through that one. So I
actually so I don't really watch television as
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a TV writer, which is a
lot of people think it's strange, but
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I find like it's it kind of
obscures my creativity at some Like at times
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I do read a lot of scripts
and I was stuck in a project and
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I needed to come up with different
act breaks. And at this point that
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this was this wasn't the South of
France, so I was in a really
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beautiful place. It's like, and
I had a really rough night trying to
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think of like the strangest act breaks
to like up the stakes on this novel.
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That's like, I'm working with the
show Renner. It's her project that
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I write on and she came back. It was like, we have these
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notes, we need help. You
have until tomorrow to do this. I'm
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like, challenge, accept it.
And it couldn't like I had. It
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didn't matter how many like ideas I've
had, it wasn't good Enough's like,
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okay, I need to change ideas. And my partners like, you should
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watch Hunting of Hill House because it's
very good, and I say, okay,
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I'll don't think I can watch it
because it sounds too scary. I'll
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listen to it. So I'm like, I listen to it means I download
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the PDF and I put it on
a pdf reader and I'm doing other things
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at the same time. To again, move from on our IBNB, do
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the I'm doing the dishes, I'm
packing In this point, I'm I'm getting
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into the shower at this is the
end of the teaser, so the first
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mention of the Bentneck Lady, right
yeah, And at this point I reached
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my phone, I turn it off
and for two months I couldn't sleep without
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delights on. After that. No, I know, I'm thirty two and
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a half and I can't. I
just couldn't. I just couldn't do it.
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I want to say that you know, the bentneck Lady was one of
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the most beautiful and heartbreaking stories within
the show. We had my co host
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Lindsay Jones and I of Psychoanalyzing the
Patient, had the really wonderful opportunity to
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interview the production designer for The Hunting
of Hillhouse and I was just fan girling,
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like, oh my god that I
loved that show so much, and
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he sent us like their deck for
um, I don't know it was.
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It was amazing. So I love
the whole bentneck Lady thing. And even
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though I'd probably read that story a
million years ago, I didn't remember it
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and was in awe. But yeah, I think they did a really good
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job with the adaptation of it.
And I think that that is something also
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that its project projects that I work
on, is that to make sure that
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all of the horrors that come from
within when it comes to psychology are realistic.
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And because in a lot a lot
of Netflix shows you have, you
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know, everyone is a psychopath and
no one really knows what that means,
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and then also they're not really psychopaths. And my best friend back in Israel
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is a psychotherapist. So every time
I write a character, after I write
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my characters. I'm like, so
this is what I gave them. So
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I have a murderer, this is
why what do you think of their childhood?
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What do you think of their motives? What do you think of this?
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Like? And she helps me just
make sure that I'm not because people
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see this and they start think now
sure, and also they compare it to
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their own life. And I think
it's important because that's that's our way to
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grow and learn from these things.
And I know that that is fascinating.
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And yeah, you learn a lot
about psychology when you do when you do
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it, and a lot of a
lot of network notes now come back also,
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isn't like, Yeah, this needs
to be more realistic. It needs
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to be more even if it's young
adults. It needs to make sense.
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It's not just drama for drama,
which I really appreciate. So I'm hoping
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that more projects like Hunting a Fieldhouse
will find their way into screens. Yeah
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for sure. So, um,
yeah, I'm a psychologist, so that's
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why, Um, that whole thing
really fascinates me. And thus the name
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of our show psychoanalyzing the patient.
But so we hope to do more psychoanalyzing
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other shows. Um, so I
think you have another story here, um,
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something about a strip club. I
have a bunch yeah, yeah,
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yeah, that one is here.
See today I'm not drinking, but these
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are just these are stories about drunken
nights. But I have to say I
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only I don't. I only have
like a handful of those a year,
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you know, unless and less with
time. But I had as you get
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older, as I get older,
yeah, um, maybe it's like get
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whole older, I have more unexpected
drunken nights. You're like, oh,
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a couple of drinks then then whoop
uh yeah. Um. So there's a
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pilot that I'm still working on.
Then I'm also gonna shoot as as a
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short film and actually it's trilogy but
I'm excited about and it takes place in
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strip club, but it's also strip
club that's burlesque, but in the future,
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so it's future vintage. So basically
the vintage of of like it's like
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hidden under a diner, and then
the diner is like vintage, so circa
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two thousand and three. So that
was that was fun but research wise,
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and what inspired me to do it
is, um, I live maybe before
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I did close to Jumbo's Clown Room
on Hollywood, which is m a burlesque
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club that's basically a strip club,
but they're not completely naked, right,
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and they're very talented dancers, So
it's it's it's a small spot, it's
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a famous spot. A Corney Love
used to dance there, and you see
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you see a lot of I mean, I really suck at recognizing celebrities.
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It was a problem in my work
at some point because I had no idea
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what I was talking to or maybe
a solution. Sometimes as well, especially
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in Hollywood. I get scolded for
it though then and not watching television so
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I would. I think a friend
of mine visiting it took me to jumbos
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for the first time, and I
fell in love with it because it's one
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of the places in Los Angeles that
I've found have true character and personality and
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charm. And I know it's a
strip joint and it's strange, but like
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it's the light is like everything's red, and the people that is small and
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crowded. It feels like Europe.
And there's a jukebox and that's how like
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the girls go choose their song and
it's only classic rock, and then they
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do their their set and it's usually
themed, you know, a couple of
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hours, a few girls, and
then they change it up and it closes
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it too. It's a minute,
two drinks, and then when you come
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and it's it's like it became a
place that I really enjoyed and really inspired
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me for pickles. Is what is
that the pirate is called right now?
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Which is oh a working title for
sure. And I started taking every person
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that came to visit me. I
just I didn't tell them we're guys,
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like, oh, we're going to
go to a bar, and I just
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took them to Jumbos, which is
just and gave them cash and you would
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just so I did that with my
sister, who freaked out and then enjoyed
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it way too much, and my
cousin, who's like, I don't like
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strip joints, and then I was
like, yo, but this one I
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kind of do. That was just
baggy, and I went there a few
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times. She doesn't like it.
But every time it's my anniversary in La
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or something and a maker or we're
drunk enough, we go to Jumbo's.
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Um my first date with my partner
was there accidentally as well. And then
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I also, did you know anniversaries
in New years now bur Mitzvah's weddings,
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and so I had a French friend
visit. Well, he was coming for
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burning Man and this friend is also
um is my ex but we were friends
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at this point and like so years
after we dated and he's in a relationship
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for ages now you know it's been
a relationship, but he cheated on me
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with this woman who's now his wife's
ages ago I was like ten years ago
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was less than ten years. This
was this was pre pandemic. And he
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comes and he really needs help,
all the help he can get. He
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can't rent the trailer, he can't
do this, and I'm running, Ah,
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I'm going to the Long Beach and
I'm helping in. I'm like,
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dude, like what the fuck,
like please, just like can't. And
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he's like the CEO of this company
that he built and then he sold it.
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He's like now this big shot and
more than he was when we were
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like twenty three, but he still
can't do anything on his own. And
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he has one night where he's like, Okay, let me take you out
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for a drink because I owe you
so much for this, thank you so
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much for doing this, and like
okay, and I take him to Jumbos,
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because that is where I go when
I break people out of town and
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we drink way too much. We
drink way too much, and we sit
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at this table, and then there's
another there's a two other people's a couple
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that sits with us and start scantting
us drinks, and then Jumbos was closing,
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and then we found found us off
in a different strip club. And
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this one is not like a kittie
strip club kind of like Jumbos that it's
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all cute and charming. It's a
strip club, strip club. Like there's
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no the light is just fluorescent,
you know, white light. It's big.
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They're walking naked back and forth on
like a runway situation, jiggling things.
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I didn't know it can be jiggled, but for like different, and
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I like, do I want to
do? I want to look? This
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is too much. And then they're
like not supposed to sell alcohol because it's
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already three in the morning, but
they're still selling alcohol but's in the back
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room and I don't know where I
am. I mean, everything's fine,
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we were safe, but it's also
like I still don't know where this place
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was. I think, like I
thought it was one strip club. Because
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what happened is is like I obviously
could not drive after this, so I
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00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.000
take an uber home. Um,
I mean we take an uber home because
403
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:17.559
we definitely slept together after that night
because of course we were so drunk and
404
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.799
he didn't sleep before going to Burning
Man and then like that that was um
405
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:27.119
mistakes. I don't do anymore.
But definitely Rember evening and I lost my
406
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.519
car keys. I came. I
came like, oh my gain, same
407
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.759
job. I have to get up
in the morning, go to work.
408
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.079
No parkies. I had a spare
but like this is these are car keys
409
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.759
with my house keys and all of
my favorite um you know, but gives
410
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.640
that I had the chase. I
had one from Hong Kong. I had
411
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.400
one from Japan like my sister.
I had all these things on us like
412
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.359
it was beautiful, it was curated, you know, and it's very Also,
413
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:56.039
those keys are fucking expensive. It's
like four hundred dollars to uh yeah.
414
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.920
I went to Jumbos. They couldn't
find it, and they're like,
415
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.440
cool, this is the other strip
club that's in the like the other side
416
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.039
of the street. I'm like,
it must be that club, and I
417
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.119
go there and it's I don't recognize
it. I'm like, this is not
418
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.359
the place I went? Where it
was? I how did it begin here?
419
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.240
Because the guy, the people that
were with us at stand was like,
420
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.039
oh, I owned this other club, let's go there, and they
421
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.279
drove us. I went into a
stranger's car. What were they thinking?
422
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.079
Yeah, we were in a car
with those like there were a couple I
423
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.880
was. I was very drunk.
That was very drunk the next day,
424
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.799
Yeah, I was one. I
never found those keys. I could never
425
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.960
retrieve it. Nope, nope,
no and no keys. I'm sorry to
426
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.559
hear that, but I did get
a but I think I did get a
427
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.920
very good experience. It's definitely in
pickles. And thus this is why you
428
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:52.839
this is why you listen to Image
and Churches episode because it was called burlesque.
429
00:29:52.599 --> 00:30:00.319
M yep, exactly right. Yeah, so yeah that's yeah. So
430
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.880
I you know, because I asked
you some questions before you started, and
431
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.000
one of them you know, have
you listened to any episodes? And so
432
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.519
you mentioned that and I don't know
if you know that she did two episodes?
433
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.079
Um, because Image and wrote a
book, wrote a novel, so
434
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:22.200
she is a narrator really am a
narrator. I love her voice. I
435
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.039
don't know if you heard me say
I have a voice crush on her and
436
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:32.119
um, and then she wrote she
wrote her own novel set in a burlesque
437
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.200
um place. So I can't remember
what the name of the novel is at
438
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.759
the moment, but I think it's
the name of her other episode. So
439
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.920
I highly recommend the novel. And
she, of course a narrated her own
440
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:51.319
novel, so I think, yeah, yeah, that she was working on
441
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.599
it. Yeah, that's what she
was working I wonder if o we went
442
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.519
to the same places. I wonder
because that she did, do you burlesque
443
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:04.200
in La? So you know she's
from England, but I know she's MS
444
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:14.960
maybe maybe well so it's to me, like the lesson here is to what
445
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.559
like hold on of your keys,
keep pajamas with you at all times,
446
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:30.359
toothbrush, toothbrush? Sure, any
any other lessons from your these stories here?
447
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:36.440
The US is bad. It's always
always, always just bring a talent.
448
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:37.880
This didn't only happen in the years. It's like I think you have
449
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.160
a track record when I'm like,
oh, I'll just do this small thing
450
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.079
and then something just you know,
just kind of like goes into something a
451
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.680
little, a little bigger. Um. None of these were bad experiences.
452
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.640
They were all worth it and definitely
memorable. Okay, So you lose something,
453
00:31:53.680 --> 00:32:00.480
you gain something, Okay. Yeah, and maybe hydrate or sunscreen hydrate.
454
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.319
Yeah, none of none of the
lessons are drink less. I want
455
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.039
to be really clear about that.
None of we haven't said that is one
456
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.160
of the less More water, just
yeah, more drink more, drink more
457
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.680
water. If you're going to drink
a lot, hold onto your keys.
458
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.319
I got to, I got,
I got a lot of material from it.
459
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.359
It was definitely worth it. So
there's a lot there, maybe a
460
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:30.400
little too much. Maybe I overresearch. I mean it's better than under researching
461
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.400
and not knowing. And it's better
murdering people for murder mysteries, you know,
462
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:39.400
for sure? For sure? Yeah, for sure. So you said
463
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:44.319
the working title is for pickles,
so we can like kind of keep the
464
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:49.279
eyes open for this. Pickles in
the realm, Yeah, pickles in the
465
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:53.279
realms of the unknown. It's along, it's it's all working title, and
466
00:32:53.319 --> 00:33:00.440
it's pickles a person or literally what
you eat pickles. It's pickles we eat.
467
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.759
Yeah, that's actual. Okay,
it's actual pickles. That one's going
468
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.559
to take a little while. This
was going to take a Yeah, um
469
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:14.960
Avalon is the working title for Avalon. It takes place there, and I
470
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.039
think we have to Yeah, there's
more than one, there are a bunch
471
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.079
of them. Yeah, these are
two different projects that I um that I
472
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.759
research. There is burlesque also an
avalon a little bit, but it's it's
473
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.440
very it's decorative. It's not the
base of the plot the same way that
474
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.640
pickles is. Yeah, two different
worlds, different time. You definitely have
475
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:38.920
to come to Milwaukee now because every
summer my husband puts up pickles. We
476
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:46.480
make we make dill pickles and I'm
obsessed with that's That's definitely gonna be like
477
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:53.079
necessary research for your book. Um, because we make pickles here and my
478
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.880
husband. There's of course, there's
a podcast episode called Steve n I The
479
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.920
Pickle Guy, um all about the
process. I saw that. I saw
480
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.039
that and I was like, I
can't I'm going to get too excited.
481
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:12.719
I can't listen to this podcasts about
pickles right now. But an open invitation
482
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.119
but myself, but thank you.
I will definitely come and check out the
483
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:23.440
Brian I like to pickle Brian too. I love klick. Yeah, I'm
484
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:30.719
telling you you need to come and
have some Steve Nai pickles. Oh,
485
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.880
Stacy, say no more. I'm
on my way Milwaukee. Bo Okay.
486
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.280
All right? Great? Well,
thank you so much. It was such
487
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:43.360
a pleasure to talk to you.
I really enjoyed hearing about your stories,
488
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:49.360
and I look forward to these projects. I wish you all the best so
489
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.000
that I can thank you so much, read your books and watch the show.
490
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.719
Thank you so much, Stacy,
thank you for everything. It's great
491
00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:02.480
being here. It's been fun.
So that was Noah god Wiser in a
492
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.840
symphony of Vomit is definitely what I'm
going to be calling this episode, telling
493
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:15.239
us her stories about while she did
research for her scripts, you know,
494
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:21.239
books, podcasts, TV shows,
some of the shit that happened to her
495
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.320
during that time. Although I'm not
sure the second story was could be considered
496
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.840
research for her for her scripts.
But what do you think, Maggie,
497
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.239
You know, I think like we
come up with all kinds of excuses of
498
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:39.440
why we need to get into trouble, right, But you know what,
499
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:45.760
the vomit, the Vomit Symphony was
making me think of what does it stand
500
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.719
by me? The movie where they're
all sitting the boys were all sitting around
501
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.960
and he tells the story of the
vomitorium. I don't think I would survive
502
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:58.320
in that situation. I think that
I would probably jump off the boat and
503
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:04.360
swim to shore where I mean.
I just started thinking about the fact that
504
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:09.239
I'm taking a cruise in July and
a little worried about my tendency to get
505
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:15.880
you know, any kind of sick, motion sick, seasick, air sicks.
506
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.639
Yeah, if there's a kind of
sick, I'll get it. So
507
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:24.840
if I'm moving, I will get
it. So yeah, but so I
508
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:29.119
immediately went there. But I think
I'll be okay. I've got all kinds.
509
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.920
I've got all my drugs that I'm
gonna do. And also, cruise
510
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.599
ships are pretty big, so I
feel like it's the small boats that really
511
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.679
toss you around, right, Yeah, yeah for sure. So have we
512
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:45.840
learned any lessons here that, um, you know, each story was like,
513
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.920
well I drank a little too much, but that was that was a
514
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.559
keeper. So I'm cool. That
was not the lesson. No, just
515
00:36:53.639 --> 00:37:00.599
drink more water. Yeah, so
don't get dehydrated. Yeah you weren't.
516
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.320
You weren't there in any of those
stories that you weren't part of those stories.
517
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.519
No, I was not there for
any of the stories told, though
518
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.400
I have been to Jumbo's clown room
with her before, and I think,
519
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.800
as she said, not my favorite
place. No, No, I feel
520
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.440
like and I would have to because
I don't know anything. Let me preface
521
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.960
what I'm going to say as if
I know something. I really don't know
522
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:32.440
anything. But I kind of think
maybe maybe Imagen talked about this that burlesque
523
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.840
I think is kind of different than
stripping in general, because I think we
524
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:45.199
kind of associate stripping with something women
feel forced to do or aren't in good
525
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:50.199
situations, or it's you know,
I don't know, it's very sexist,
526
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:54.880
all of that stuff exploitative, right, But I don't think that. I
527
00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:00.599
don't think that Imagen felt that burlesque
was exploitative at all. I think she
528
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.760
really enjoyed it. It was like
art. She you know, had came
529
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.960
out in this costume and told a
story, and so for her it was
530
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.280
she was just performing. But I
don't know if that's true for aubur lesque
531
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.599
or not. But yeah, I
mean I think that's prob I think that's
532
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.480
definitely true at Jumbos. Jumbos is
definitely it's not one of those places that
533
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.840
it's not It's not a sad place
like other strip clubs are. Like there's
534
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:30.559
there's a there's a place not far
from Dumbos called Cheetahs that a friend of
535
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.840
mine threw a party at years ago
that I went to, and I was
536
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.960
like, m I don't want to
be here. This is sad. I
537
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.920
don't like this at all. Very
different vibe, still not my vibe,
538
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:43.079
but a very a very different vibe, but it is. It is definitely
539
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.840
more cabaret than strip club. But
you are still kind of throwing one dollar
540
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:52.960
bills. There is still a pole
and a lot of pole dancing, and
541
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.519
there is still you know, the
the underwear. It's more like bikinies,
542
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.000
i'd say, than like, you
know, there's a certain sumption with burlesque
543
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:04.760
that there's something old fashioned about it. Maybe, yeah, that's my own
544
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.440
mind about it. I think you're
right, yeah, and cabaret sounds more
545
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:13.199
old fashioned. I don't know why
it's called Jumbo's. I'm not crazy about
546
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.679
that name. I don't know what
that what we're supposed to get from that
547
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:22.199
name. Jumbo's Clown Room is what
it's called. Yeah, yeah, there's
548
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.960
a picture of a clown on the
front of it. It's you know,
549
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.599
that's maybe another thing. I don't
like clowns really, so maybe that's just
550
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:34.840
I don't mind clowns. But but
I will tell you that I've been to
551
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.360
a mail strip clubs. We'll just
take a moment I have so, um,
552
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:45.400
you're like, really, I wasn't
supposed to be there. I never
553
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.440
did anything wrong growing up, like
hardly ever. I'd never lied. I
554
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.280
didn't. I mean, I didn't
do anything wrong, at least not until
555
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.920
I got to college. But um, just some people had like a you
556
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.360
know, longer head start than I
did. But I was My grandparents had
557
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:07.599
this condo in Miami Beach and I
went there often in the winter. And
558
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.320
at that point, I think it
was just my grandmother and a friend came
559
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.559
with me. My friend Liz,
and then some other friends were also in
560
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.000
the area, and we were all
going to go out one night and we
561
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:24.719
went to a male strip club.
And of course I didn't tell my grandmother
562
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.639
this. Although I was an adult, but you know, I didn't really
563
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:35.400
feel like an adult, and it
was it was quite Um, I don't
564
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.440
know. It was a lot of
fun. It was really a lot of
565
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.360
fun. I did put money in
like some very hot guy who I think
566
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:49.440
was called like is ralely Ike or
something like that, into his jock strap.
567
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.679
I mean it wasn't quite as really
ike, but it was pretty close
568
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.599
to that, you know, into
his like jock strap, which was closer
569
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:02.039
than I had ever gotten before.
So um, and then you know it
570
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.719
was like the secret I couldn't tell
my grandmother like where we were that night.
571
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.719
So that was made it, you
know, pretty exciting for me.
572
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:15.119
But so whose idea was it to
go to the strip club? It might
573
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.880
have been my idea. It might
have been my idea, I don't remember.
574
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.119
It was me and Liz and Karen
who was now my sister in law's
575
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.199
my sister's sister in law, and
my friend Lisa. We all went to
576
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.079
this strip club. Yeah, it
was fun one time. You never went
577
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.960
back? No, No, that, No, that would have been beyond
578
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:45.760
yeah. Yeah yeah, so have
you done that? Never been to a
579
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.960
mail strip club? No? I
mean I started watching the Chippendale's series with
580
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.400
Kamal Nanjohnny and that was on who
or something, But I don't think I
581
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.519
actually finished it. But that's yeah, I've never never been It's never come
582
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.639
up. You know, I've never
had a Stacy in the group to recommend
583
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:07.280
it, right right, the Stacy
who's this good little girl who suddenly has
584
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.960
these ideas like let's go to a
male strip joint. Yeah. Yeah,
585
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.639
so well, shout out to Liz
and Karen and Lisa in case you're listening.
586
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.119
Let's go back, you know,
see Israeli Ike, who's probably an
587
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.760
old man. Now I think it's
time. I think it's time to get
588
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:30.119
check on him. Yeah all right, Maggie, Well thanks so much.
589
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.920
Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I enjoyed meeting your friend. No,
590
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.480
m thanks Stacy. Yeah, I
think it was fun. I think
591
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.440
it was a good time. Yeah. Okay, well take care, have
592
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:46.159
a good weekend, and don't be
a crumb. Thanks for listening to my
593
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.119
shit. I really appreciate it.
Come back and hear more shit next time
594
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.639
on the Ship that Happens to Me
Podcast. Do you think I've said shit
595
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:58.679
enough for one podcast episode? Tune
in next time to the Ship that Happens
596
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:04.960
to Me Podcast. You Got a
Baby
1
00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.480
Hey, everyone, Noam god Wiser
is on the show today. Noam is
2
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a friend of Maggie's, my producer, and she is a film, television
3
00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:15.039
and podcast creator. She has also
written screenplays and is currently working on a
4
00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:19.000
novel something to do with Pickles.
I can't remember the exact name, she
5
00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:23.399
told me, but we all are
going to pay close attention because she's going
6
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to be great. Originally from Israel, she has lived in Paris and most
7
00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:34.719
currently La Noam told me some very
funny stories about the research she does for
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her writing, going to places seeing
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she also told me some very funny
stories about one of her favorite places,
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Jumbos. So stay tuned, it's
on right now. Shit happens, bad
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shit, good shit, crazy shit, and it usually happens when we least
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expect it. So tune into the
Shit that Happens to Me podcast and here
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me and everyone I meet tell their
shitty stories. You'll laugh, you'll cry.
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stories. You'll learn a few lessons, probably not. It's definitely not that
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kind of podcast, but you will
have a great time. Honestly, you
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can't make this shit up. Hi, everybody, Welcome to another episode of
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the Shit That Happens to Me Podcast. I am so excited to be here
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today with my guest. No,
I'm god Wiser. Hi. No,
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I'm Hi Staisy. Thank you for
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it. I was hoping that I
did pronounce it properly, but I got
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a little hint also from Maggie before
we started. So welcome to the Ship
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that Happens to Me Podcast. Usually
I start off the episode with do you
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know how I know you? But
since I've just met you, it might
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be unclear because since we don't really
know each other. But you are friends
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with Maggie. Yes, I am
so Maggie's are my producer? Can you
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tell me, like how how you
came to be friends with Maggie? Oh
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yeah, it's a it's a fun
story. We talk about it in the
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podcast that we hosted together, Maggie
and I Conversations with Friends and Strangers.
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I love to say that I met
Maggie and bumble because I dated her now
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husband's best friend briefly back in twenty
eighteen, and Maggie and I fell in
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love and couldn't let go, and
now here we are almost five years later.
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Hm. So you did a podcast
on I'm with Straw Hut that Conversations
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with Friends and Strangers, that was
based on a Hulu special, a Hulu
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show. Yeah, it was a
companion podcast that wasn't really a companion podcast,
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but it was definitely the after Sally
Rooney's novel Conversation with Surent for Conversations
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with Friends. Huh okay, awesome. Yeah, and then and then the
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show that wasn't that, but your
success was. It was still a lot
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of fun. We learn a lot
of things about ourselves, about relationships,
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about each other. That's fun.
What's wrong with that? Oh? Nothing
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wrong with that. It was great. Honestly, it was lovely. And
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is that something? Have you done
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working on another fiction podcast that is
based on one of my pilots that is
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set in Paris but is in English
about stolen art. So that's in development
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but early stages. Fun that I
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writing it. Oh okay, ah, so they need a host for that.
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I think it's going to be an
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a fictional podcast actors and things.
Yeah, no, that's really fun.
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I've listened to a few fictions podcast
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I love it. UM. So
you your main job though, is
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you are a writer and you also
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says that you are like a production
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I have I have some things there. I definitely need to update that.
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Thank you for reminding me. I'll
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projects there that I haven't I haven't
done any yet. Some of the projects,
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the earlier projects I was on that
our mostly co productions um are French
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American or Israeli French American or just
French Israeli. And that I that I
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helped with the development company that I
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more of a creative producer on or
an assistant. One of them started that
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I was the personal assistant to the
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much. That is actually the movie
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a whole other story. So it's
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an accident with getting more and more
involved in the project. But I'll tell
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you, none of these movies are
good any none of them. They're not
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very good, but they're entertaining,
really okay, Yeah, but they're you
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got to work on them. So
that's exciting. Oh, very exciting.
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And I'm a lot and it's great. But that's why I'm like, I
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should put more of more recent things
on there too, Yeah, and then
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more involved in which are great,
and more new and exciting things. But
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I mainly write scripts at this moment
in time, mainly television. A lot
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of it, as television works,
is just scripts that are not going to
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be produced or maybe mainly at this
moment in time, are not produced.
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I'm I'm a baby writer, you know,
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I'm just starting out when it comes
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my own projects. Fun. So
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of fun to me. Like,
even if you make movies that aren't very
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good, like, that's exciting because
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whether it's writing or doing the sound
or you know, doing the producing
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or the directing. I just am
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yeah, it sounds great to me. So because there's none of that going
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on here in Milwaukee, I wouldn't
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That is that true? Oh yeah
it was like nine degrees today.
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but I'm not sure that there's any
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that's what I'm going to talk about
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of inspiration in those places. It's
just like a life that is, you
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know, not very adventures or maybe
adventures in ways that I don't know.
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and just like really small corners and
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find fascinating, Like I you find
production fascinating, and you know, fame,
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and I think supermarkets in foreign countries
are the most interesting things ever.
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mean, should you come to Milwaukee. I hope you'll call me because I'll
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show you around everywhere, try to
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here. But so tell you have
some you have some funny stories today about
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um. I guess like some of
this shit that's happened to you while you've
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done research for your scripts. So
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to be probably I don't know if
it's the same thing. But when I
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first moved out here, out here
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Angeles in twenty seventeen very fast.
It's kind of like a job offer.
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I moved from Paris, which is
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you that. It was kind of
like a really strange culture shock emerginally from
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Israel's Israel to Paris. It's it's
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was ready, and then I thought
I knew LA because I have family here
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and I visited growing up, and
I came after ten or eleven years of
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not being in the US at all. I was like, what is going
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on? And I stayed Christmas here. I didn't get Jewish because I'm Israeli,
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so I didn't go on vacation.
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was here for a few months and
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let's was ever left in town.
Let's all go to Catalina Island, and
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um I went, and I was
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off the coast of Los Angeles,
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kind of it's a it's about an
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it's very sweet, and it's very
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stars used to go there. Natalie
Natalie Wood died off the coast of catalan
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Anda Avalon, so that happened there. And I found all these things out
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when I'm there, and I'm like, how come there's no there's no murder
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mystery based out here over this?
Like this is such a strange. The
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atmosphere there is so weird, and
it's creepy and foggy, but also very
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beautiful and has a cent your characters, and I fell in love with the
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place. I'm like, I have
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physically, but um, character wise, because I write murder mysteries mostly.
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I should have said that, sorry, um. And I decide to come
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back to start writing a project.
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very strange place. And I write
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like six six or eight months.
I sit and I ran and develop all
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the characters in my world. And
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to go and count steps from the
bar to the beach and then from the
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beach to a to the casino there
they have the casino and I have to
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like do really just a few things
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second rewrite at that point, and
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and I have work. I was
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something, and there's a marketing job
at a real estate company. Its varies
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before COVID. This is a while
ago, and I go Sunday morning and
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it's like, I just need to
not stay in the night, nonnything.
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I drive, I get the boat, I go and on the way there
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and it's kind of like a huge
catamaran and I'm sitting outside on the deck
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and it's beautiful and the way sometimes
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boats if it's the right season,
and they're big waves that day, and
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the boat starts rocking up and down
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listening to music, and then I like,
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I start seeing movement, and I
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me starts throwing up, and then
a person brushes over, gives them a
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bag. They go to take them
to the place where the people that throw
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up throw up. And I'm like, okay, great. I'm looking at
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the water, taking slower videos of
the water, you know, I was
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trying to writing material, going over
my notes, and then I see another
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person start throwing up in the boats
going up and down and up, and
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I'm like, slowly, it's just
the smell of spectacular. It's just everyone
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on the boat, one by one
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out the back it's like everyone is
just throwing up. It's a symphony of
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of vomits and people on different you
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yellow. It was it was hilarious. I was fine, honestly, Like
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by the end of it, you
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the ground with the boat. You're
like, okay, this is a little
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not yeah, but I was fine. I was just like disgusted, but
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not nauseous in any way. Yea. And it was just like I was
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just looking at them, but there
was literally I don't and maybe one little
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boy that didn't throw up except me
that was there. Wow, And I
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think that is it. I'm like, okay, I'm definitely putting this in
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the pilot, which I did.
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the island, I do all the
things. I go to the bar,
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the restaurant, I kind of all
the steps, and then there there's an
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announcement is that all the boats are
canceled because of high winds because it was
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too rocky, the water is just
too rough to be able to sail back.
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Because when I'm stuck on this island, it's Sunday night. The first
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boats go up at six in the
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there's no way I'm going to make
it to work on time Monday.
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boss, so like I'm stuck on an
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island. I'm sorry, I won't
be able to make it to a type
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but I'll take But I see it
as a good opportunity. The only motel
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that had a room was a very
sticky motel that I really enjoy. I
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really like the weirdest motels. I
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definitely, you know, I used
a towel as a pellowcase. But and
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needed underwear, I need socks. I
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got. The only underwear I found
on the island were like Taco dinosaur underwear
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that I still have just because they
were hilarious. Yeah, and I see
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it as opportunity to explore. And
I go to the spar that I went
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to when I first went there to
research, and uh, there's a girl
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on the bar. There's a that
is getting hit on by these two aging
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cowboys that I don't know what they're
doing there, and she's like looking at
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me, like rolling her eyes and
like, okay, I'm going to come
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to her aid and we chat.
We take pictures with those guys cowboy hats.
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The guys leave and she starts talking
to me and turns out that her
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brother used to be the bartender of
that bar and I remember him, and
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he had just passed and I'm like, oh, but I remember him and
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his girlfriend was there and they were
fund. She was like yeah, and
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they broke up and then he did
it this girl and then they had a
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kid, and then he died from
this illness. And we start drinking and
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she's like, okay. I told
her that I'm writing that I'm writing about
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aval and she's like, okay,
I have to take you. There's a
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nightclub. Do you know about the
nightclub? Like, what do you mean?
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There are only three people in this
town? What nightclubs? There's a
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secret nightclub. And she takes me
to that secret nightclub, which is on
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top of a supermarket and it is
a nightclub, but there we're only about
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three people there. She's like,
well, it gets busier later, and
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it's like one in the morning at
this point, I'm like, I don't
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know what is later? Yeah,
wait, how much later. Yeah,
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so I said, our friends show
up. I'm like, okay, I'm
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gonna go. I find myself my
way back to my room and there's a
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symphony and this is again different symphony, a little disgusting. But you just
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hear everyone around you having sex,
because the only reason people go to this
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island is like on you know,
a couple couple trips. And I don't
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think it's honeymoons, but I honestly
I don't know. It's not a very
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romantic motel. But the walls are
moaning, so I am really drunk at
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this point. I did not think
I was going to stay in this island.
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Like laying in bed just looking at
the ceiling. Everything is now I'm
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nauseous, everything is floating. All
I hear is everyone just moaning and having
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sex around me. But it just
like sounds like there's a whole pack of
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people, but coming from all the
directions. So you know, it's like
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different rooms, different hotels. It's
it's very yeah, it's very close together.
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That was great, Yeah, and
then the next day was really rough.
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Yeah. I definitely like I woke
up, threw up, not on
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the boat. Before going on the
boat. It is like I can't.
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I'm too hungover, only had like
three hours of sleep. No, on
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the woe back, the wope back. The water is definitely not storey.
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Everything was fine, but I was
not doing too well. That was a
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really that was a great trip.
A lot of it, A lot of
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it. Did it did make it
into the rewrite, which was good.
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Did you murder people on the island? No? Apparently they'd die on their
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own. That's not funny. I'm
sorry, Um, I did not mean
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No, I'm not going to say
who the murderer is, okay, because
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I maybe done. No. No, it's a it's a it's it's a
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pilot, so there are a lot
of there are a lot of options.
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Yeah, I did get a lot
of material. It's it's a fun one.
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I really do recommend visiting Catalina Island. Catalina. Yeah, Avalon on
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Catalina Island. Um, that bar
is also great. I think it's there
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are two bars on the island.
That's the one that has a pool table.
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Okay, did you play pool?
I did? Yes, I did
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play pool. Okay, I don't. I'm not particularly good at it,
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but I do enjoy it very much
as an activity. I have to say.
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Maggie does too, and it's something
that we also do together. She
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accompanied Bet in some strange adventures.
I'm like, I want to go to
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this place. Do you want to
join me? She's like sure, Yeah.
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So you said the second thing that
is also the thing I'm super interested
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in after like while I write and
movies and all that stuff. Was you
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said murder mystery? So I love
murder mysteries. I listen to murder mysteries.
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I watch murder mysteries. If someone
says to me, have you seen
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this show? And I say,
well, if someone murdered in it,
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And if they say no, I'm
like, well then I probably have not
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seen it. Yeah. I probably
won't be seeing it unless you know someone
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is violently you know, murdered and
chopped up and you know things like that.
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So, which which crime shows your
favorite show at the moment? Well,
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I don't know which is my favorite? But I just finished Snow Girl.
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I don't know if you saw that
um which takes place in Spain.
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Um. So that was like a
new Net Netflix thing And is it about
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cocaine? No? No, no, And there's really not even even any
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snow But I don't know, So
I don't know. Actually I never figured
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out why it was called snow Girl. But this girl is kidnapped, so
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it's it's about that. And um, I like you know, murder and
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horror like American Horror Story and um, things like that. I just saw
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that there's um follow the House of
Ushers coming. Mike Flanagan is going to
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do that, and I love all
of his shows, like um, Murder,
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Hunting of Hillhouse, like my all
time favorite show. I couldn't make
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it through that one. So I
actually so I don't really watch television as
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a TV writer, which is a
lot of people think it's strange, but
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I find like it's it kind of
obscures my creativity at some Like at times
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I do read a lot of scripts
and I was stuck in a project and
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I needed to come up with different
act breaks. And at this point that
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this was this wasn't the South of
France, so I was in a really
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beautiful place. It's like, and
I had a really rough night trying to
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think of like the strangest act breaks
to like up the stakes on this novel.
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That's like, I'm working with the
show Renner. It's her project that
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I write on and she came back. It was like, we have these
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notes, we need help. You
have until tomorrow to do this. I'm
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like, challenge, accept it.
And it couldn't like I had. It
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didn't matter how many like ideas I've
had, it wasn't good Enough's like,
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okay, I need to change ideas. And my partners like, you should
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watch Hunting of Hill House because it's
very good, and I say, okay,
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I'll don't think I can watch it
because it sounds too scary. I'll
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listen to it. So I'm like, I listen to it means I download
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the PDF and I put it on
a pdf reader and I'm doing other things
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at the same time. To again, move from on our IBNB, do
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the I'm doing the dishes, I'm
packing In this point, I'm I'm getting
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into the shower at this is the
end of the teaser, so the first
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mention of the Bentneck Lady, right
yeah, And at this point I reached
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my phone, I turn it off
and for two months I couldn't sleep without
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delights on. After that. No, I know, I'm thirty two and
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a half and I can't. I
just couldn't. I just couldn't do it.
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I want to say that you know, the bentneck Lady was one of
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the most beautiful and heartbreaking stories within
the show. We had my co host
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Lindsay Jones and I of Psychoanalyzing the
Patient, had the really wonderful opportunity to
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interview the production designer for The Hunting
of Hillhouse and I was just fan girling,
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like, oh my god that I
loved that show so much, and
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he sent us like their deck for
um, I don't know it was.
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It was amazing. So I love
the whole bentneck Lady thing. And even
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though I'd probably read that story a
million years ago, I didn't remember it
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and was in awe. But yeah, I think they did a really good
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job with the adaptation of it.
And I think that that is something also
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that its project projects that I work
on, is that to make sure that
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all of the horrors that come from
within when it comes to psychology are realistic.
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And because in a lot a lot
of Netflix shows you have, you
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know, everyone is a psychopath and
no one really knows what that means,
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and then also they're not really psychopaths. And my best friend back in Israel
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is a psychotherapist. So every time
I write a character, after I write
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my characters. I'm like, so
this is what I gave them. So
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I have a murderer, this is
why what do you think of their childhood?
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What do you think of their motives? What do you think of this?
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Like? And she helps me just
make sure that I'm not because people
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see this and they start think now
sure, and also they compare it to
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their own life. And I think
it's important because that's that's our way to
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grow and learn from these things.
And I know that that is fascinating.
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And yeah, you learn a lot
about psychology when you do when you do
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it, and a lot of a
lot of network notes now come back also,
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isn't like, Yeah, this needs
to be more realistic. It needs
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to be more even if it's young
adults. It needs to make sense.
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It's not just drama for drama,
which I really appreciate. So I'm hoping
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that more projects like Hunting a Fieldhouse
will find their way into screens. Yeah
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for sure. So, um,
yeah, I'm a psychologist, so that's
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why, Um, that whole thing
really fascinates me. And thus the name
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of our show psychoanalyzing the patient.
But so we hope to do more psychoanalyzing
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other shows. Um, so I
think you have another story here, um,
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something about a strip club. I
have a bunch yeah, yeah,
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yeah, that one is here.
See today I'm not drinking, but these
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are just these are stories about drunken
nights. But I have to say I
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only I don't. I only have
like a handful of those a year,
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you know, unless and less with
time. But I had as you get
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older, as I get older,
yeah, um, maybe it's like get
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whole older, I have more unexpected
drunken nights. You're like, oh,
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a couple of drinks then then whoop
uh yeah. Um. So there's a
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pilot that I'm still working on.
Then I'm also gonna shoot as as a
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short film and actually it's trilogy but
I'm excited about and it takes place in
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strip club, but it's also strip
club that's burlesque, but in the future,
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so it's future vintage. So basically
the vintage of of like it's like
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hidden under a diner, and then
the diner is like vintage, so circa
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two thousand and three. So that
was that was fun but research wise,
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and what inspired me to do it
is, um, I live maybe before
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I did close to Jumbo's Clown Room
on Hollywood, which is m a burlesque
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club that's basically a strip club,
but they're not completely naked, right,
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and they're very talented dancers, So
it's it's it's a small spot, it's
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a famous spot. A Corney Love
used to dance there, and you see
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you see a lot of I mean, I really suck at recognizing celebrities.
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It was a problem in my work
at some point because I had no idea
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what I was talking to or maybe
a solution. Sometimes as well, especially
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in Hollywood. I get scolded for
it though then and not watching television so
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I would. I think a friend
of mine visiting it took me to jumbos
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for the first time, and I
fell in love with it because it's one
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of the places in Los Angeles that
I've found have true character and personality and
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charm. And I know it's a
strip joint and it's strange, but like
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it's the light is like everything's red, and the people that is small and
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crowded. It feels like Europe.
And there's a jukebox and that's how like
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the girls go choose their song and
it's only classic rock, and then they
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do their their set and it's usually
themed, you know, a couple of
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hours, a few girls, and
then they change it up and it closes
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it too. It's a minute,
two drinks, and then when you come
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and it's it's like it became a
place that I really enjoyed and really inspired
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me for pickles. Is what is
that the pirate is called right now?
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Which is oh a working title for
sure. And I started taking every person
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that came to visit me. I
just I didn't tell them we're guys,
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like, oh, we're going to
go to a bar, and I just
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took them to Jumbos, which is
just and gave them cash and you would
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just so I did that with my
sister, who freaked out and then enjoyed
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it way too much, and my
cousin, who's like, I don't like
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strip joints, and then I was
like, yo, but this one I
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kind of do. That was just
baggy, and I went there a few
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times. She doesn't like it.
But every time it's my anniversary in La
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or something and a maker or we're
drunk enough, we go to Jumbo's.
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Um my first date with my partner
was there accidentally as well. And then
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I also, did you know anniversaries
in New years now bur Mitzvah's weddings,
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and so I had a French friend
visit. Well, he was coming for
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burning Man and this friend is also
um is my ex but we were friends
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at this point and like so years
after we dated and he's in a relationship
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for ages now you know it's been
a relationship, but he cheated on me
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with this woman who's now his wife's
ages ago I was like ten years ago
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was less than ten years. This
was this was pre pandemic. And he
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comes and he really needs help,
all the help he can get. He
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can't rent the trailer, he can't
do this, and I'm running, Ah,
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I'm going to the Long Beach and
I'm helping in. I'm like,
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dude, like what the fuck,
like please, just like can't. And
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he's like the CEO of this company
that he built and then he sold it.
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He's like now this big shot and
more than he was when we were
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like twenty three, but he still
can't do anything on his own. And
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he has one night where he's like, Okay, let me take you out
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for a drink because I owe you
so much for this, thank you so
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much for doing this, and like
okay, and I take him to Jumbos,
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because that is where I go when
I break people out of town and
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we drink way too much. We
drink way too much, and we sit
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at this table, and then there's
another there's a two other people's a couple
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that sits with us and start scantting
us drinks, and then Jumbos was closing,
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and then we found found us off
in a different strip club. And
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this one is not like a kittie
strip club kind of like Jumbos that it's
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all cute and charming. It's a
strip club, strip club. Like there's
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no the light is just fluorescent,
you know, white light. It's big.
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They're walking naked back and forth on
like a runway situation, jiggling things.
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I didn't know it can be jiggled, but for like different, and
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I like, do I want to
do? I want to look? This
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is too much. And then they're
like not supposed to sell alcohol because it's
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already three in the morning, but
they're still selling alcohol but's in the back
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room and I don't know where I
am. I mean, everything's fine,
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we were safe, but it's also
like I still don't know where this place
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was. I think, like I
thought it was one strip club. Because
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what happened is is like I obviously
could not drive after this, so I
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take an uber home. Um,
I mean we take an uber home because
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we definitely slept together after that night
because of course we were so drunk and
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he didn't sleep before going to Burning
Man and then like that that was um
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mistakes. I don't do anymore.
But definitely Rember evening and I lost my
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car keys. I came. I
came like, oh my gain, same
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job. I have to get up
in the morning, go to work.
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No parkies. I had a spare
but like this is these are car keys
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with my house keys and all of
my favorite um you know, but gives
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that I had the chase. I
had one from Hong Kong. I had
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one from Japan like my sister.
I had all these things on us like
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it was beautiful, it was curated, you know, and it's very Also,
413
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:56.039
those keys are fucking expensive. It's
like four hundred dollars to uh yeah.
414
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.920
I went to Jumbos. They couldn't
find it, and they're like,
415
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.440
cool, this is the other strip
club that's in the like the other side
416
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.039
of the street. I'm like,
it must be that club, and I
417
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.119
go there and it's I don't recognize
it. I'm like, this is not
418
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.359
the place I went? Where it
was? I how did it begin here?
419
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.240
Because the guy, the people that
were with us at stand was like,
420
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.039
oh, I owned this other club, let's go there, and they
421
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.279
drove us. I went into a
stranger's car. What were they thinking?
422
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.079
Yeah, we were in a car
with those like there were a couple I
423
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.880
was. I was very drunk.
That was very drunk the next day,
424
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.799
Yeah, I was one. I
never found those keys. I could never
425
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.960
retrieve it. Nope, nope,
no and no keys. I'm sorry to
426
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.559
hear that, but I did get
a but I think I did get a
427
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.920
very good experience. It's definitely in
pickles. And thus this is why you
428
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:52.839
this is why you listen to Image
and Churches episode because it was called burlesque.
429
00:29:52.599 --> 00:30:00.319
M yep, exactly right. Yeah, so yeah that's yeah. So
430
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.880
I you know, because I asked
you some questions before you started, and
431
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.000
one of them you know, have
you listened to any episodes? And so
432
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.519
you mentioned that and I don't know
if you know that she did two episodes?
433
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.079
Um, because Image and wrote a
book, wrote a novel, so
434
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:22.200
she is a narrator really am a
narrator. I love her voice. I
435
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.039
don't know if you heard me say
I have a voice crush on her and
436
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:32.119
um, and then she wrote she
wrote her own novel set in a burlesque
437
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.200
um place. So I can't remember
what the name of the novel is at
438
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.759
the moment, but I think it's
the name of her other episode. So
439
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.920
I highly recommend the novel. And
she, of course a narrated her own
440
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:51.319
novel, so I think, yeah, yeah, that she was working on
441
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.599
it. Yeah, that's what she
was working I wonder if o we went
442
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.519
to the same places. I wonder
because that she did, do you burlesque
443
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:04.200
in La? So you know she's
from England, but I know she's MS
444
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:14.960
maybe maybe well so it's to me, like the lesson here is to what
445
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.559
like hold on of your keys,
keep pajamas with you at all times,
446
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:30.359
toothbrush, toothbrush? Sure, any
any other lessons from your these stories here?
447
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:36.440
The US is bad. It's always
always, always just bring a talent.
448
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:37.880
This didn't only happen in the years. It's like I think you have
449
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.160
a track record when I'm like,
oh, I'll just do this small thing
450
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.079
and then something just you know,
just kind of like goes into something a
451
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.680
little, a little bigger. Um. None of these were bad experiences.
452
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.640
They were all worth it and definitely
memorable. Okay, So you lose something,
453
00:31:53.680 --> 00:32:00.480
you gain something, Okay. Yeah, and maybe hydrate or sunscreen hydrate.
454
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.319
Yeah, none of none of the
lessons are drink less. I want
455
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.039
to be really clear about that.
None of we haven't said that is one
456
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.160
of the less More water, just
yeah, more drink more, drink more
457
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.680
water. If you're going to drink
a lot, hold onto your keys.
458
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.319
I got to, I got,
I got a lot of material from it.
459
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.359
It was definitely worth it. So
there's a lot there, maybe a
460
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:30.400
little too much. Maybe I overresearch. I mean it's better than under researching
461
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.400
and not knowing. And it's better
murdering people for murder mysteries, you know,
462
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:39.400
for sure? For sure? Yeah, for sure. So you said
463
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:44.319
the working title is for pickles,
so we can like kind of keep the
464
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:49.279
eyes open for this. Pickles in
the realm, Yeah, pickles in the
465
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:53.279
realms of the unknown. It's along, it's it's all working title, and
466
00:32:53.319 --> 00:33:00.440
it's pickles a person or literally what
you eat pickles. It's pickles we eat.
467
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.759
Yeah, that's actual. Okay,
it's actual pickles. That one's going
468
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.559
to take a little while. This
was going to take a Yeah, um
469
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:14.960
Avalon is the working title for Avalon. It takes place there, and I
470
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.039
think we have to Yeah, there's
more than one, there are a bunch
471
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.079
of them. Yeah, these are
two different projects that I um that I
472
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.759
research. There is burlesque also an
avalon a little bit, but it's it's
473
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.440
very it's decorative. It's not the
base of the plot the same way that
474
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.640
pickles is. Yeah, two different
worlds, different time. You definitely have
475
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:38.920
to come to Milwaukee now because every
summer my husband puts up pickles. We
476
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:46.480
make we make dill pickles and I'm
obsessed with that's That's definitely gonna be like
477
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:53.079
necessary research for your book. Um, because we make pickles here and my
478
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.880
husband. There's of course, there's
a podcast episode called Steve n I The
479
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.920
Pickle Guy, um all about the
process. I saw that. I saw
480
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.039
that and I was like, I
can't I'm going to get too excited.
481
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:12.719
I can't listen to this podcasts about
pickles right now. But an open invitation
482
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.119
but myself, but thank you.
I will definitely come and check out the
483
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:23.440
Brian I like to pickle Brian too. I love klick. Yeah, I'm
484
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:30.719
telling you you need to come and
have some Steve Nai pickles. Oh,
485
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.880
Stacy, say no more. I'm
on my way Milwaukee. Bo Okay.
486
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.280
All right? Great? Well,
thank you so much. It was such
487
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:43.360
a pleasure to talk to you.
I really enjoyed hearing about your stories,
488
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:49.360
and I look forward to these projects. I wish you all the best so
489
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.000
that I can thank you so much, read your books and watch the show.
490
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.719
Thank you so much, Stacy,
thank you for everything. It's great
491
00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:02.480
being here. It's been fun.
So that was Noah god Wiser in a
492
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.840
symphony of Vomit is definitely what I'm
going to be calling this episode, telling
493
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:15.239
us her stories about while she did
research for her scripts, you know,
494
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:21.239
books, podcasts, TV shows,
some of the shit that happened to her
495
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.320
during that time. Although I'm not
sure the second story was could be considered
496
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.840
research for her for her scripts.
But what do you think, Maggie,
497
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.239
You know, I think like we
come up with all kinds of excuses of
498
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:39.440
why we need to get into trouble, right, But you know what,
499
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:45.760
the vomit, the Vomit Symphony was
making me think of what does it stand
500
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.719
by me? The movie where they're
all sitting the boys were all sitting around
501
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.960
and he tells the story of the
vomitorium. I don't think I would survive
502
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:58.320
in that situation. I think that
I would probably jump off the boat and
503
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:04.360
swim to shore where I mean.
I just started thinking about the fact that
504
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:09.239
I'm taking a cruise in July and
a little worried about my tendency to get
505
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:15.880
you know, any kind of sick, motion sick, seasick, air sicks.
506
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.639
Yeah, if there's a kind of
sick, I'll get it. So
507
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:24.840
if I'm moving, I will get
it. So yeah, but so I
508
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:29.119
immediately went there. But I think
I'll be okay. I've got all kinds.
509
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.920
I've got all my drugs that I'm
gonna do. And also, cruise
510
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.599
ships are pretty big, so I
feel like it's the small boats that really
511
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.679
toss you around, right, Yeah, yeah for sure. So have we
512
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:45.840
learned any lessons here that, um, you know, each story was like,
513
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.920
well I drank a little too much, but that was that was a
514
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.559
keeper. So I'm cool. That
was not the lesson. No, just
515
00:36:53.639 --> 00:37:00.599
drink more water. Yeah, so
don't get dehydrated. Yeah you weren't.
516
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.320
You weren't there in any of those
stories that you weren't part of those stories.
517
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.519
No, I was not there for
any of the stories told, though
518
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.400
I have been to Jumbo's clown room
with her before, and I think,
519
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.800
as she said, not my favorite
place. No, No, I feel
520
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.440
like and I would have to because
I don't know anything. Let me preface
521
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.960
what I'm going to say as if
I know something. I really don't know
522
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:32.440
anything. But I kind of think
maybe maybe Imagen talked about this that burlesque
523
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.840
I think is kind of different than
stripping in general, because I think we
524
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:45.199
kind of associate stripping with something women
feel forced to do or aren't in good
525
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:50.199
situations, or it's you know,
I don't know, it's very sexist,
526
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:54.880
all of that stuff exploitative, right, But I don't think that. I
527
00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:00.599
don't think that Imagen felt that burlesque
was exploitative at all. I think she
528
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.760
really enjoyed it. It was like
art. She you know, had came
529
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.960
out in this costume and told a
story, and so for her it was
530
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.280
she was just performing. But I
don't know if that's true for aubur lesque
531
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.599
or not. But yeah, I
mean I think that's prob I think that's
532
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.480
definitely true at Jumbos. Jumbos is
definitely it's not one of those places that
533
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.840
it's not It's not a sad place
like other strip clubs are. Like there's
534
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:30.559
there's a there's a place not far
from Dumbos called Cheetahs that a friend of
535
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.840
mine threw a party at years ago
that I went to, and I was
536
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.960
like, m I don't want to
be here. This is sad. I
537
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.920
don't like this at all. Very
different vibe, still not my vibe,
538
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:43.079
but a very a very different vibe, but it is. It is definitely
539
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.840
more cabaret than strip club. But
you are still kind of throwing one dollar
540
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:52.960
bills. There is still a pole
and a lot of pole dancing, and
541
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.519
there is still you know, the
the underwear. It's more like bikinies,
542
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.000
i'd say, than like, you
know, there's a certain sumption with burlesque
543
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:04.760
that there's something old fashioned about it. Maybe, yeah, that's my own
544
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.440
mind about it. I think you're
right, yeah, and cabaret sounds more
545
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:13.199
old fashioned. I don't know why
it's called Jumbo's. I'm not crazy about
546
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.679
that name. I don't know what
that what we're supposed to get from that
547
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:22.199
name. Jumbo's Clown Room is what
it's called. Yeah, yeah, there's
548
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.960
a picture of a clown on the
front of it. It's you know,
549
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.599
that's maybe another thing. I don't
like clowns really, so maybe that's just
550
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:34.840
I don't mind clowns. But but
I will tell you that I've been to
551
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.360
a mail strip clubs. We'll just
take a moment I have so, um,
552
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:45.400
you're like, really, I wasn't
supposed to be there. I never
553
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.440
did anything wrong growing up, like
hardly ever. I'd never lied. I
554
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.280
didn't. I mean, I didn't
do anything wrong, at least not until
555
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.920
I got to college. But um, just some people had like a you
556
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.360
know, longer head start than I
did. But I was My grandparents had
557
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:07.599
this condo in Miami Beach and I
went there often in the winter. And
558
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.320
at that point, I think it
was just my grandmother and a friend came
559
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.559
with me. My friend Liz,
and then some other friends were also in
560
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.000
the area, and we were all
going to go out one night and we
561
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:24.719
went to a male strip club.
And of course I didn't tell my grandmother
562
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.639
this. Although I was an adult, but you know, I didn't really
563
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:35.400
feel like an adult, and it
was it was quite Um, I don't
564
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.440
know. It was a lot of
fun. It was really a lot of
565
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.360
fun. I did put money in
like some very hot guy who I think
566
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:49.440
was called like is ralely Ike or
something like that, into his jock strap.
567
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.679
I mean it wasn't quite as really
ike, but it was pretty close
568
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.599
to that, you know, into
his like jock strap, which was closer
569
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:02.039
than I had ever gotten before.
So um, and then you know it
570
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.719
was like the secret I couldn't tell
my grandmother like where we were that night.
571
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.719
So that was made it, you
know, pretty exciting for me.
572
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:15.119
But so whose idea was it to
go to the strip club? It might
573
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.880
have been my idea. It might
have been my idea, I don't remember.
574
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.119
It was me and Liz and Karen
who was now my sister in law's
575
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.199
my sister's sister in law, and
my friend Lisa. We all went to
576
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.079
this strip club. Yeah, it
was fun one time. You never went
577
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.960
back? No, No, that, No, that would have been beyond
578
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:45.760
yeah. Yeah yeah, so have
you done that? Never been to a
579
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.960
mail strip club? No? I
mean I started watching the Chippendale's series with
580
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.400
Kamal Nanjohnny and that was on who
or something, But I don't think I
581
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.519
actually finished it. But that's yeah, I've never never been It's never come
582
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.639
up. You know, I've never
had a Stacy in the group to recommend
583
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:07.280
it, right right, the Stacy
who's this good little girl who suddenly has
584
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.960
these ideas like let's go to a
male strip joint. Yeah. Yeah,
585
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.639
so well, shout out to Liz
and Karen and Lisa in case you're listening.
586
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.119
Let's go back, you know,
see Israeli Ike, who's probably an
587
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.760
old man. Now I think it's
time. I think it's time to get
588
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:30.119
check on him. Yeah all right, Maggie, Well thanks so much.
589
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.920
Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I enjoyed meeting your friend. No,
590
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.480
m thanks Stacy. Yeah, I
think it was fun. I think
591
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.440
it was a good time. Yeah. Okay, well take care, have
592
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:46.159
a good weekend, and don't be
a crumb. Thanks for listening to my
593
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.119
shit. I really appreciate it.
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594
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.639
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595
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