5 Simple Fixes That Instantly Upgrade Your Podcast

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Good morning podcasting, Morning
Chat.

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Today is Thursday, December 4th,
2025, and today it's our indie

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podcast Spotlight.
And we're looking at an episode

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structure, branding, clarity,
and pacing with Wander Water

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School showing exactly where
creators can tighten, simplify

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and better guide new listeners.
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share this with a fellow
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And now give us about 30
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We'll get things rolling.
Thanks for being here.

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Good morning again podcasting
morning chat.

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Thank you so much for being
here.

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I am your host Mark Ronick and
currently on stage with me.

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My Co hosts we have Jonathan
Howard, Ralphie Step, Dr. Fay,

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Matt Bliss, Nick Naulback, Cliff
Ravenscraft and also BC Babbles

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that joined us yesterday.
He's on stage with us as well

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today.
Good morning to all of you.

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Thank you for being here for our
Thursday evaluation episode.

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Or what did I call it in the
intro?

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I think I had said, what was
that?

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I said the Indies podcast
spotlight.

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I don't know.
We haven't really landed on a

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name yet, an official name yet,
but that one.

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I like that.
I like the word indie in there.

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Yes, I do like that.
Yes, because we do evaluate

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other podcasts, right?
Like earlier this week and

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Monday, Jonathan helped Co host
a show all about new heights,

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which we would not call an indie
podcast.

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So yeah, that that might be a
good way to differentiate the

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different types of evaluations
that we do.

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So today, before we get into it,
and I'm going to make this short

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and sweet before we get into the
meat of it all, because normally

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these episodes take us a little
longer.

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But I did want, if you haven't
noticed or maybe you've seen

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some people sharing on social
media already, Spotify for

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Creators Rapt is here.
And I hinted at that yesterday

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if you were following along
during our news and comment

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episode, I had mentioned that
Spotify had recently put out a

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blog.
And one of the things in that

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blog was it was encouraging you
to update your Spotify apps

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because they were hinting that
Rapt was coming.

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And then lo and behold, it came
out just a couple hours after we

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talked about it.
And it is really fun.

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I really enjoy it.
Now, this is different than your

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typical Spotify Wrapped.
This is not about how you use

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Spotify.
This is about how your community

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is using your podcast on
Spotify.

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And in the big thing I wanted to
mention, if you don't have your

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podcast hosted on Spotify for
Creators, you can still access

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this as long as your podcast is
available on Spotify.

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I will quickly tell you how to
do it.

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Go to creators.spotify.com,
login with your Spotify account

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or create one if you don't have
one, it's free.

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Claim your podcast again, if you
haven't done this login process

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before, you got to claim your
podcast and it'll walk you

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through that.
And basically you do that by

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entering your RSS feed.
Then Spotify will send you a

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verification e-mail to to the
address in the RSS feed.

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And then once it's verified,
your show's going to just appear

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in your Spotify for Creators
dashboard and that.

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And then when you're in that
dashboard, boom, you'll see a

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little banner on the left hand
side, I believe if you're using

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a desktop that says Spotify
Wrapped.

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If you do that and want to
share, I think tomorrow will

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take a little time.
On Friday, we will take a little

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time to share some of our
favorite Wrapped moments that it

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shared with us.
It's really fun.

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It tells you things like your
most listened to episodes.

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It tells you it actually even
shows you some comparisons.

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In other words, it will tell you
if your show, it has been shared

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more than a certain percentage
of the rest of the Spotify

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podcasts.
There's all sorts of cool stuff.

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So check that out if you haven't
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And if there you spot something
that you're proud of, you'll

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share.
I'd love for you to share it

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tomorrow and go and share it on
social media.

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Be proud wear that proudly
whatever those different badges

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are that it gives you all right
so we are going to move into

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today's indie spotlight indie
podcast spotlight the podcast we

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are evaluating today Wander
water school and slow family

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podcast.
Is that what it is?

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Slow family or did did my?
Can I tell you my journey with

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this please Idle.
Well, I, you know, I don't have

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any children, so a lot of this
was lost on me at the beginning.

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So I had to dive a little deeper
And I thought SLO family.

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What is that?
Is that like maybe that's her

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family name.
Maybe SLO is her like the Jones

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family, the the SLO the, the
Jones family, the Smith family,

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the SLO family.
That's what I thought.

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And I thought, you know, that
sounds that's not quite right.

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So I went to Google and I put in
what is the SLO family and I put

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that in quotation mark SLO
family.

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And apparently there is a
lifestyle.

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This is a lifestyle that exists
that I had no idea about.

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But I mean, it makes perfect
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I remember several years ago
reading about a family that got

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on a yacht and just travelled
the world and there were kids

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and they would be homeschooling
them and when they go into all

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these different ports, they
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cultures and the foods.
And I mean, I thought what an

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amazing, amazing lifestyle for
people who have that kind of oh

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God.
I don't know what it what it

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takes dedication I guess.
But but from the and I listen to

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like 5 different episodes from
the episodes that I heard, she

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does all of her traveling
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So and that's a whole other
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I mean, I listen to an episode
with kids.

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She did it.
She did an episode with these

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random kids who have this
lifestyle and they talked about

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traveling with animals and I
thought, Oh my.

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This.
Is really dedication.

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So, yeah, this opened up this.
I really learned a lot from

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these episodes as someone who
hates to travel and doesn't have

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any kids.
So this this podcast was really

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not, you know, I wasn't the
target audience.

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Yeah, but I really learned a
lot.

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Well, that's awesome and thank
you and I appreciate you going

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the extra mile and listening to
other episodes as well.

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I think it'll give us a more
balanced overall evaluation.

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And yeah, I, I, what I was
thinking about this podcast is,

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yes, it has a very specific
target audience.

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And I could see the, the casual
traveler or even the more

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frequent traveler that doesn't
necessarily lead the, the family

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travel lifestyle.
But I could see this being a

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valuable podcast for anybody who
likes to travel to learn some

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money saving tips.
I mean, she is truly an

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authority.
She's like a walking travel

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cyclopaedia.
She's her knowledge is amazing.

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Yeah.
So this show, yes, it her target

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audience is for slow and long
term traveling families, world

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school leaders and families
exploring world schooling.

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Let's see here.
What else can I tell you about

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it?
The episode that we're

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evaluating is episode 24, Save
money on booking flights.

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And the title continues and says
October recap plus Taiwan tips

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plus call for voice memos.
We'll talk about the title too.

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And the episode description.
This episode offers a recap of

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months earlier episodes 20
through 23 world schooling tips

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for Taiwan and a deep dive into
strategies for finding the most

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affordable flights from using
deal alert tools to leveraging

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budget airlines and multi city
or stopover tickets.

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And this is hosted by the way,
by Susie May.

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And as I've teased or shared
over the course of the week, a

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newer listener of the podcasting
morning chat heard about it

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through I believe what she had
said was a networking event in

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Denver.
Somebody told her about it and

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she said, quote, I'm obsessed
with your show.

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We want to do her justice.
And before we dive in, I know we

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got DRS.
Some of DRS take on her overall

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impressions, but what about the
overall impressions of our host?

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Before we'll play clips for
everybody today, we're going to

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talk about other things.
But first, just your first

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impressions of Susie's tone, her
delivery.

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I have thoughts, but I just
wanted to open the floor first

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for anybody.
If they wanted to share, go

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ahead, Ralph.
I thought her tongue was great.

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I thought she was very engaging.
I thought she was perky and

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friendly and certainly was
passionate about her topic.

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I agree.
I agree.

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I found her voice warm and
inviting.

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Go ahead.
Dear OK, yeah, she spoke with

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authority.
She certainly has that.

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One of the things that I
noticed, especially in the

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specific eval episode, was her
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Her pace was just very, very,
very quick.

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She spoke very quick.
And I, yeah, I think there's an

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opportunity there for maybe to
slow down a little bit.

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You know the beauty of the pause
is so important.

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And I wonder also if some of
that had to do with editing,

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because I noticed a little bit I
don't want to.

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There was some, yeah, there was
some hard cut.

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There were a few hard cuts in
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little smoother.
It was, I'm, I'm not trying to

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criticize it.
It wasn't a big deal.

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But you know, that's just if
we're looking to Polish our

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podcasts and if people are
asking us to evaluate the

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podcasts, these are the kinds of
things that we'll point out.

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Right.
It felt it had a taste of TikTok

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where you're very conscious of
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very, very quickly.
Some of you had shared that you

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thought maybe she was reading
from a script.

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And I admit, like, I didn't
think that way at first, right?

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I, I, so where I'm going with
that is I personally think she

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did a good job reading from the
script.

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It didn't feel robotic like a
lot of times I notice.

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Yeah, it didn't.
Bother me.

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Bother me at all.
There was a lot of information,

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so for her to not have a script
would have been amazing.

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Yes, yes.
But that didn't bother me.

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It was.
And the word bother is not

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right, but I just think that
there's an opportunity just to

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slow down a tinge.
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And I see Cliff has something as
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Good morning to you, Cliff.
What do you got for us?

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Good morning.
Well, I was going to say about

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the pacing, definitely.
I think that she went so fast

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that sometimes being that as an
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all of her terminology.
And so there are sometimes I had

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to go back several times to
actually cure the word that she

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just said because it was just
not something that I was

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prepared as a part of like what
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So there might have been a
little bit of that, but her

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speed of talking kind of rushed
through some words.

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And I'm like, I didn't quite
hear what she just said and what

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you talked about.
Just the pacing overall in the

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editing, this, that.
But the word that I would use is

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choppy.
And I wrote one major thing.

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I said my only major feedback is
I have no room to breathe in

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this episode.
I felt like she was there at one

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point.
She's actually cutting to prior

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interviews and as soon as she
sets up the next thing it, it's

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like there's not even a second
to breathe before that next

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clip.
And then when that clip stops,

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she's instantly in and it almost
seems as though she's cut out

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all silence in between any
thought that she prerecorded.

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And so I just feel like I, I
haven't from the beginning of

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the episode to the end of the
episode, I can't breathe.

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Yeah, yeah, I felt that.
Yes, this this technique is

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probably going to do her well in
Tik Toks in those shorts for

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promotion 'cause she has to get
a lot of information in.

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But yeah, she might have to do
like a separate edit, I'm

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thinking.
But just I just want to point

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out the irony that the word
slows in the title.

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Good point.
Listen, I see a lot of people

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want to chime in here and I want
to keep things moving as well,

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but I I also want to hear from
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So let's try to keep these tight
these this feedback that

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everybody wants to give.
I know Matt, I said in the chat,

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I'm coming to you, but I see BC
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multiple times here.
So I feel like he's got a hot

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take or something he wants to
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So BC good morning.
Go for it.

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Well, the pepper never really
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many times like it, but this
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saying earlier, you know, and
kind of going back to a couple

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days ago, talking about being on
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You know, it's not about trying
to sound like a DJ.

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You know, you don't want to come
on to a podcast.

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It's not about you trying to
sound like you belong on the

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mic.
It's about slowing down, finding

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a way for your personality to
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down your pace.
If you give yourself the chance

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and remind yourself that you're
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don't have to be supercharged
and fly through a story, then

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that allows your personality and
your voice more comfortably and

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naturally to really shine
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So just kind of going along with
what everyone else was talking

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about.
Thank you, BC and coming from a

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guy who I know also has some
radio background as well.

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Yeah, that's a really important
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newer podcasters, and I don't
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is, but I think sometimes we put
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we have to sound like a radio
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point of reference maybe that
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Like that's what we think is a
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front of a microphone.
And so we try to replicate it

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instead of pausing when we can
and just focusing on speaking

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clearly slowly at a pace that
your audience can appreciate.

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Yeah, I saw, I saw Nick put in
the chat that he usually listens

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to podcasts at 1.3 speed and had
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point O in this instance.
Yeah.

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OK, so there you go.
There's some feedback for Susie.

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May maybe work a little bit on
slowing things down and

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smoothing some edits out.
Yes, Dr., go ahead.

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I would be in the miss if I
didn't mention the fact that she

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has other episodes and some of
those are interviews and she

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does indeed slow down
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interview.
See, I think Dr. thank you for

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saying that.
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result of reading from a script,
right?

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Because that's tells me she's
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It's more organic, so she's
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organically and then when she's
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she's probably racing through
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It's a natural thing that a lot
of us can do sometimes.

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And I actually was just having
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empowered podcasting Facebook
with Facebook group with

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somebody.
He was saying what he does, and

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I do this often too.
When I, when I script, he, he

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puts in cues for himself to
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He'll, he'll make it clear to
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So when he sees that pause or
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script, he knows to do that and
just take to take a breath.

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I go even further sometimes and
I emphasize, I'll bold words,

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I'll use all caps, I'll
italicize, I'll do different

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things to also help me with the
inflictions that I'm using.

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If I'm reading from a script, I
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I don't try.
I, I just don't like doing

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scripting too much, but it's
definitely a technique that a

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lot of people use and one that I
encourage my clients to do if

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they are insisting on scripting.
So let's talk a little bit about

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the branding, right?
And then we'll play some clips

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from the episode.
So how do we feel about the

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cover art?
The overall, not the episode

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'cause I know she does
individual episode images as

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well.
And for our listening audience,

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you will be able to see a link
and be able to check out the the

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cover art through the show
notes.

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Ralph, kick us off.
Yeah, and I mean this in a nice

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way.
I'd like the feel of the cover

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art and it's inviting, but I
just feel like there's too much

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going on and it's confusing as
to what is the show name, What

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is the episode name?
I, I, I feel cool.

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I mean, it feels nice.
It feels warm and inviting, but

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and I love the the pictures and
I, you know, all those things

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are great, but there's just so
much going on it just I get lost

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in it.
Yeah, and I think so.

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Let me try to paint the picture
for everybody.

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They the IT is, it's a picture
of a what looks like a family.

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And I'm looking at it really
small, by the way, which this is

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something to think about because
a lot of people will see it much

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smaller on their phone screens.
But Wander is the big focal

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point and it's written in big
letters in blue.

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It's very clear.
You can see it it it kind of

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draws your eyes right to it.
I agree with Ralph.

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The whole overall image is
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Then there's a lot of other text
underneath the Big Blue letters

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Wander that you can't read, at
least not on some screens

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because of the size.
If you blow it up, sure, you can

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read it and it's just giving you
the full title there.

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Find like the three or 4 words,
blow those up and make that the

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focal point so we can really see
and and understand what the

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title is of this show.
Dr. What did you have?

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I think she should have a globe
on there because she really is a

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world traveler.
I mean, I just can't get past

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her knowledge that she has about
this.

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I'm not really crazy about the
font of the main title because I

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think the main title is just
Wander.

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The font looks.
Almost like.

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Handwriting.
Yeah, it looks like Comic Sans

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or something really close to
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And then the subtitle, it looks
like World School and Slow

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Family Travel podcast.
I'm not even sure that this is a

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photograph.
It kind of looks like an

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illustration of a family, but
they even had to kind of write

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that subtitle around.
The family.

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Yeah, yeah.
They're trying to squeeze a lot

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in there.
Yeah, I think there's some

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opportunity there.
Agreed.

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And Kathy in the chat says here
that it's it's cute, but needs

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to be more minimal and possibly
a social logo.

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It looks like a children's book.
Yeah, it the the, but I agree.

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And, and and I don't necessarily
take that as a negative that

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it's got a little bit of a
children's book feel.

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Maybe I'm not sure I'd fully
agree, but I I kind of get what

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you're saying with that.
And I do agree that maybe we

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make it a little more minimal,
make it make the imagery feel a

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little bit more like a world
travelling podcast, Right.

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But yeah, I'm with you there.
Let BC had something.

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Go ahead BC.
But also with with what Dr. was

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saying about doing a globe, you
know, World Travel and thinking

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about like compass rose using
something that's more of a

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seraphim that's more
sophisticated.

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But I do get that.
If this is family focus, then

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having that kind of children's
book, and I think Kathy

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mentioned that in the comments
as well, kind of makes sense,

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but it it may be a bit too much.
I love the idea of the compass.

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Yes, me too.
Yeah.

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Nick, do you want to share what
you just shared in the chat?

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Yeah, I said given that the show
is like centered around family

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and family focus, basically
exactly what I think BC just

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said.
I think the image is fine.

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I like the image it it is you
need to grab my attention going

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back to the other side.
I just think that there's too

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much text going on and you
tighten that up a little bit.

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I I personally like it.
Yeah, thank you, Nick.

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Yeah.
And I think this speaks to the

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title of her show.
I hate telling people, you know,

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I'm not and I'm not.
I'm not saying you should change

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the name.
And it's a really long name,

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right?
We part of this here, I believe,

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part of the strategy.
We want it short and sweet a

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because it's easy to remember,
it's easy to quickly scan and

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read, and it fits better on your
logo, on your cover images.

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So I'm just going to say that's
something to think about.

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OK, let's see here.
And I thought that the show

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notes were formatted really
well, easy to kind of scan

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through and gives actionable
tips.

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I would, one thing I'll say
about that is she gives a list

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of what looks like maybe 6 to 8
different actionable tips from

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the episode.
I would actually just tease some

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of that and not give it all away
in the show notes because I want

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people to hear, I want people to
sit and take the time to listen

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to this 30 minute episode.
So maybe just tease what they'll

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learn if they listen.
Go ahead, clip.

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Yeah, I was wondering if she
would be open to considering the

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title of the show being Wonder
World School and then having the

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tagline a slow family travel
podcast.

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Yeah, I like that.
And then what I would do is I

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would reduce the font size of
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font size for Wonder World
School Wonder on top, World

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School right underneath in a
decent thick font.

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I agree.
I the the font choice isn't

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stellar in my opinion, but it it
it does give that whimsical

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family kind of feel.
So I'm not opposed to it, but

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certainly wonder world school at
the top and big bold print.

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And then you could put that
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bold font than what they
currently have there.

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But I think I think to having
the a slow family travel podcast

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as the subtitle on the artwork.
And then all that would need to

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change in the name of the
podcast is you.

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You could just put like a, what
do you call that a pipe there?

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And then put a slow family
instead of an slow family.

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Thank you, Cliff.
Great suggestions.

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I hope Susie at least considers
some of that.

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That's awesome.
Thank you, Cliff.

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All right, here's where I want
to go with this.

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Let's get into the episode
itself.

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And I think the best place to
start is probably the what I'll

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call the cold open.
So that means that when we hit

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play on this episode, it
immediately starts with a clip,

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which I believe is from the
episode.

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Let me play it and then we will
talk it through here.

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OK, And I see people want to
chime in.

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I want to start and say first, I
like the cold open strategy.

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I like when we hit play and we
get a little tease.

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But I also think that this in
this case, it really needs to be

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made clear that we're jumping in
to to a clip mid thought.

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It confused me and I am a fan
and often include those little

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teasers, those cold opens in the
in my clients podcasts.

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But I think like if if we could
do something like a simple

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coming up on wander world school
with some music maybe playing to

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just something to indicate to
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No, there, there's no mistake
here.

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You're not like jumping into the
middle of the episode.

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OK, I'm going to go to Ralph and
then I'm going to check in with

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BC.
Go ahead, Ralph.

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Well, thank you.
I felt like the whole episode

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was sort of like listening to
headline news and the beginning

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of it really took me there
because I was like, where are we

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starting here?
Because when I went to listen to

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it, actually I got an
advertisement when I went to

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listen to it the first time for
something else where she was

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doing like a pre roll or
something, which even confused

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me more.
But then I got into that.

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I'm like, did I skip something?
I thought I hit the button on my

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phone or something and I went
forward.

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It just it needed a little lead
up.

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Mark, I agree with you.
Yeah.

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And I think what she's using
it's I know she's using Buzz

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Sprout.
That's her hosting platform.

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And I think she's taking
advantage of dynamic ads, the

453
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,320
feature that Buzz Sprout offers.
So yeah, that's why that's why

454
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,600
you heard that.
OK.

455
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,640
And BC did you want to add
something?

456
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,720
Yeah.
And I agree with your sentiment

457
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,320
of a little bit ago where you
said that I wish I would have

458
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,760
opened up with a kind of on
today's episode kind of thing.

459
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,280
And funny enough, I didn't even
think about when I heard it

460
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,840
begin, I didn't think about it
actually being a part of this

461
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,360
episode.
I thought this may be a

462
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,680
continuation of last episode.
So my initial thoughts were, do

463
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,880
I have to hop back an episode to
get the beginning of this

464
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,400
thought and then catch up and
then hop back to this episode?

465
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,200
Like how?
Like where does like where do I

466
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,200
go?
Yeah.

467
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,840
Thank you.
BC And that actually, I don't

468
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,480
know why that triggered
something for me.

469
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,680
Just to mention again, you know,
I talked at the top that I

470
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,000
thought that the title was a
little long because basically

471
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,840
what it looks like is she's
trying to squeeze in all of the

472
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,040
topics that she covers in the
episode within the title itself.

473
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,840
I'm personally of the school.
Let's keep it to 1 main focus

474
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,480
for the title.
You can get to all the other

475
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,200
things that you're talking about
in the show notes, but I think

476
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,360
it's really important to be
strategic with your title.

477
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,520
All right, since we're talking
about the intro, this plays

478
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,920
immediately after the clip that
we played you a moment ago.

479
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,800
Welcome to the Wonder World
School and so Family Travel

480
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,640
podcast.
I'm Susie, a travel loving money

481
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,280
nerd, mom of two energetic boys,
and our family lives between

482
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,120
Spain and Colorado.
On this show we discuss the

483
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,160
stories, logistics and finances
of long term traveling families

484
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,440
and the multitude of ways to
learn and educate along the way.

485
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,800
This end of the month episode is
our chance to look back on the

486
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,760
must listen insightful episodes
from this month.

487
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,520
It was a joy to chat with Susie,
Melissa, Kate and Bennett and

488
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,560
Trisha this month.
And then we'll head into our

489
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,320
deep dive into one specific
aspect of long term or slow

490
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,600
travel or moving abroad.
This is your actionable advice

491
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,520
and resources to make your
family travel journey even

492
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,040
easier and more fun.
Today's topic is all things

493
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,600
saving money on flights.
I also appreciate, Susie, the

494
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,360
fact the use of the swooshes or
whooshes, whatever you want to

495
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:31,080
call them, I do like that a lot.
I think that that helps separate

496
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,680
things.
I think I did notice also when

497
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,160
we talked about some of those
misfires with some of the edits,

498
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,800
I noticed sometimes that those
whooshes were a little bit

499
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,280
misplaced.
There wasn't, they didn't occur

500
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,680
between segments, I'll I'll call
it, it sometimes would actually

501
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,800
step over you speaking when you
moved into the next segment.

502
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,200
So just, you know, that might
again, not a deal breaker by any

503
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,360
stretch, but it could get a
little distracting because I did

504
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800
hear it happened that way a few
times.

505
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Just could be a little bit of a
distraction for your audience.

506
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,800
But again, this is an evaluation
episode, so we're going to point

507
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,560
out some of these kinds of
things to help you make even

508
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,120
little improvements like that.
Oh, and Matt, you've done a, you

509
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,240
did a cover art image for us or
for Susie, really.

510
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,720
I see that you put it in the
chat.

511
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,880
We will share a link to this and
I am with you there.

512
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,760
What you've created looks much
more clean.

513
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:37,320
It keeps intact the overall feel
of the image and it keeps the

514
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,120
keeps the fonts basically the
same, but it just simplifies it

515
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,440
down to Wander World School.
We get to still see the family.

516
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,520
It still has that little
whimsical look and feel.

517
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,120
Awesome job there, Matt.
Matt's been our resident cover

518
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,080
art fixer upper as we've been
doing this series.

519
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,640
Thank you for doing that, Matt.
And I'm going to play the well,

520
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,160
I will say I liked that intro.
I liked the fact that she really

521
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,520
set the table.
She told us all the things that

522
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,560
she's going to do.
I'm sure we'll get to, in a

523
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,280
moment, all of the things that
she did on that episode.

524
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,360
But I did like the setup.
I thought that's very needed.

525
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,880
And let's see where she goes
from here.

526
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,680
Before we jump in, how has your
October been treating you?

527
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,600
We've had a wonderful month.
October, especially fall in

528
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Colorado, is my favorite.
It's one of the reasons that we

529
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,320
do spend the fall in Colorado.
We ended last month with an

530
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,160
awesome Denver World Scores meet
up at the park with many fun

531
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,120
travel loving families and had a
great virtual meet up as well.

532
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,360
We spent the month dog sitting
some sweet dogs from Rover and

533
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,000
made almost $700 in the process.
If you're interested in this,

534
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,160
reach out to me and use my link
in the show notes.

535
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840
But this was a wonderful
addition to our travel funds.

536
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,320
We also went to Almost every
fall fest and Halloween event we

537
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,680
could find because like I said,
I love fall.

538
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,920
The leaves changing, the cooler
weather.

539
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,560
I'm here for it.
We celebrated our exchange

540
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,520
students birthday with a
delicious meal at the local

541
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,480
Brazilian restaurant and got her
some ski gear to get ready for

542
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,160
winter.
We met up with Bjorn Boy and his

543
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800
family for a wonderful hike in a
State Park.

544
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,240
He was the 1st guest on my
podcast Back in episode #3 so it

545
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000
was so fun to see him living out
the travel plans that we

546
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,920
discussed back in May.
I'm also on the Linkies app now

547
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,760
that is on Android.
This app lets me meet up with

548
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,920
other traveling families so.
I'm going to stop it there.

549
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,720
It goes on for probably another
20 seconds or so.

550
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400
And here's what I want to say
about this part of the segment.

551
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,040
I actually, and I know this may
go against the grain for some,

552
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,040
we'll call it podcast
professionals, but I actually

553
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,520
appreciate the early recap of
what's going on in her life.

554
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,960
This helps, in my opinion.
This can help her and her

555
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,960
audience connect, bond.
They get to learn about her as a

556
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840
person.
Here's my advice.

557
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,960
I think we if if you're going to
do something like that, we

558
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,680
probably want to limit it to
like one story 11 recap since

559
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,040
your last episode and make it a
story.

560
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Don't just give us the skeleton,
the overview.

561
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,240
If you're going to take what was
that?

562
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,040
That was about to the the whole
clip is probably about two

563
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,640
minutes.
If you're going to take two

564
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,160
minutes to do that, tell us a
little story.

565
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Pick one of those stories and
and bring us into that story.

566
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,240
Help us go through that with
you.

567
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,800
That will create a big bond or
bigger bond between you and your

568
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,600
audience.
Dr. Did you want to say

569
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,480
something?
I do and I wanted to get in

570
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,320
before Jonathan does because I
think this is taking a page out

571
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,120
of Jonathan's book, not only
about, you know, getting

572
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,080
personal with what she's going
through, but also it also gives

573
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,200
that little chit chatty kind of
thing that Jonathan talks about

574
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,640
that he used to do with his
former Co host.

575
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,160
Sorry, there's a little bit of
that, but that is her brand.

576
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Her brand is her lifestyle.
And I I think that this is right

577
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,520
In Sync with what her brand is.
I agree.

578
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,800
I just want to sink my teeth
into one of those stories I

579
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,160
found myself wanting to hear.
Like I thought she was going to

580
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,080
start to tell me something more
about it, but it was just a

581
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,480
surface level recap.
So I just that's why I

582
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,440
personally was suggesting pick
one or two and get a little more

583
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720
detailed.
Tell us a story about that.

584
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,080
Not just I did this, I did that,
but like get give us some of the

585
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,400
details what happened.
And that's why I'm saying maybe

586
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,560
pick one or two because it, you
know, like I said, she probably

587
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,160
gave us four or five different
recaps, you know, take the time

588
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,080
and limit it to just one or two
of them.

589
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Jonathan wants to.
Go ahead, Jonathan, our our

590
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,680
storyteller.
Go ahead, Jonathan.

591
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,320
What do you have to say?
So So what I wanted to say is

592
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,720
this kind of started the entire
where I felt like I was drinking

593
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,560
from a fire hose the entire
episode.

594
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:15,080
And I think that she wants to,
she has so much information.

595
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,280
She is clearly an expert in her
field.

596
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,719
And I, I, I understand because I
used to do this like I would

597
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,120
give you all the information
instead of just taking, like you

598
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,199
said, one story and explain and
going through that story and

599
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,960
later on in the episode going
through a story about the plane

600
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,840
tickets and how she found, you
know, one strategy that she used

601
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,000
for her family and the story
that kind of takes us through

602
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,880
it.
I would have much appreciated.

603
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,600
She's got all the information.
She can create 25 episodes from

604
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,679
this one episode.
It's just giving us a little bit

605
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,520
more bite size and a little bit
easier for us to devour by

606
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,480
giving some more details and
more storytelling, less of

607
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,320
here's the fact, here's the
fact, here's the fact, here's

608
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,600
the fact.
Yeah, that's, and I felt like

609
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,720
that was the whole episode was a
lot of facts.

610
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,240
And that's great.
She knows her stuff, but giving

611
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,760
it, letting us devour it and be
able to actually know the stuff

612
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,760
that she's giving us, not feel
overwhelmed by it.

613
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,000
Yeah, I'm with you there,
Jonathan.

614
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,520
Thank you for elaborating on
that.

615
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,480
And Susie knows her stuff.
She made that very clear.

616
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,800
She is certainly an expert in
this area and I appreciate that

617
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,240
about her.
And I think that it's now just a

618
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,200
matter of learning a little bit
of restraint.

619
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,360
And you know, one thing I did
want to point out, since we just

620
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,800
mentioned it a moment ago when I
was speaking with Dr. the recap

621
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,480
of the three prior episodes, I
actually don't think you need

622
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,640
them.
I think if you want to give a

623
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:56,120
brief summary share, you know, a
line or two about them, maybe

624
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,240
because I get the strategy in
the sense that sure, we're going

625
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:02,920
to share what's happened this
month because we, as we have

626
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,840
shared recently, we'll always
have new listeners.

627
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,840
So it's a good thing to tease a
little bit about, hey, here's

628
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,200
what you've missed if you're
just joining us for the first

629
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,040
time.
But I thought that this she

630
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,800
spent way too much time breaking
down those past episodes.

631
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,640
You have a catalog that your
audience can always go back to

632
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,960
there.
This isn't like this isn't a

633
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,760
live show and you're not doing
live shows.

634
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120
And once they're gone, they're
gone and you can't go back to

635
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,640
them.
So instead, just encourage

636
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,440
people to go back and listen.
In episode 21, I spoke with I'll

637
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,880
make this up.
I spoke with Mark Ronick and we

638
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,200
talked about how to save money
when you're on a road trip.

639
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,720
I know that she flies.
I'm just giving you an example

640
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,760
and and just leave it there.
But I I thought that this took

641
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,600
up way too much of the episode
and we didn't get to the deep

642
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,520
dive.
We didn't get to all of the

643
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,000
money saving tips until at least
I think it was like 15 minutes

644
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,720
into the episode.
And I feel like that's, that

645
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:14,280
could create a problem for you
because especially with new

646
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,800
listeners who don't know your
format, don't understand it yet,

647
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,560
it could get them a little
frustrated.

648
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,840
Like, come on, let's get to it.
So I that's just something to

649
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,200
think about.
Yes, Jonathan.

650
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Yeah.
And I would have led with the

651
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,240
new information and had the
recaps at the end. 5 minutes at

652
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,520
the end just give the recaps.
Or even if you want, yeah, lead

653
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,240
with the with the value, lead
with the main topic.

654
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,720
And if you want, I'm OK with it
personally.

655
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:44,360
If you took a moment, paused and
then said, hey, we'll, I'll

656
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,160
continue these tips in just a
second.

657
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,600
First, I wanted to invite you to
check out earlier episodes from

658
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,400
this month, episodes 21/22/23,
where we discussed XY and Z.

659
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,600
So join us on previous episodes.
Now here's some more of those

660
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,000
money saving tips and then just
get right back to it.

661
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,600
I suggest that because if
sometimes if we wait till the

662
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,560
end with all of the quote UN
quote housekeeping items, that

663
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,760
might just be the signal for
somebody in your audience to

664
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,040
say, OK, she's done.
She's giving me all the tips.

665
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,800
They were awesome.
I'm going to move on.

666
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,640
And then that hurts your
retention rate.

667
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,560
And if your retention rate is
low, the algorithms aren't going

668
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:30,320
to do you any favors.
Any other thoughts on that?

669
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,920
OK, let me see.
Oh, and by the way, she another

670
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,920
positive.
Loved the listener shout out.

671
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,560
Shout out to Courtney who sent
me Adm on Instagram with the

672
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960
following rave review of the
podcast she writes.

673
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,840
I love your podcast.
We're New Zealand and USA family

674
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,800
but spend 6 winters in
Queensland, Australia raising

675
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,680
our kids on A10 acre ranchero
learning holistic horse wisdom

676
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,480
with A10 horse herd.
Wow that's amazing Courtney, I'd

677
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,400
love to learn more about this.
Thanks for sharing this

678
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,240
wonderful review.
Cool.

679
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,400
Awesome job.
Like awesome.

680
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,280
I have no critique there.
It was tight, you know, she

681
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,160
didn't spend too much time on
it.

682
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080
She actually read it.
She called the listener out by

683
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,000
name.
Sorry that my voice is going out

684
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,600
on me.
I thought it was perfect.

685
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,520
Dr. Go ahead.
There's something that we talked

686
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,840
about earlier in the week or
maybe it was last week about

687
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,680
sections.
She utilizes the whole sections

688
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,920
format where she, because I
heard like 5 different episodes.

689
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,240
So she gives shout outs, she
gives recap, she get, you know,

690
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,280
all of these different sections.
I I just think that maybe a a

691
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,920
bigger, more transparent, I
don't know, transition between

692
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,320
the sections would be good for
my ears.

693
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,560
Fair enough.
Yeah, Thank you.

694
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,600
All right, so the deep dive
tips, I'm going to just looking

695
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,560
at the time, I'm not going to
play all of the tips that she

696
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,560
gives or I, I.
Cut out a little bit for you,

697
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,640
but I'll just say that's the
area where she really shined.

698
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,920
I think that's what Dr. was
talking about too.

699
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,240
The the wealth of knowledge
Susie has is awesome and she

700
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:22,240
gives some fantastic money
saving tips if you are traveling

701
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,280
via airplane.
Really great job.

702
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200
So I loved that.
And like Jonathan said, I just

703
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,600
would have started that a little
bit, well a lot bit earlier.

704
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,360
I would have led with that.
So good job there as far as

705
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,760
delivering lots of value during
that segment.

706
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,800
Let's go into her wrap up and
talk about how she wraps up the

707
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,040
show.
So this is she's given all of

708
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,520
her tips.
Let's hear how this starts to

709
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,480
wrap up.
What are your thoughts?

710
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Do you have a big win when it
comes to booking airline

711
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,480
flights?
Share with me in the send us a

712
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,160
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713
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714
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,840
links in the show notes to
support the show.

715
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,400
Until next time, stay curious
and keep exploring.

716
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,080
I'm letting this this there's
more.

717
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,880
I'm letting this play homo.
That's a wrap on today's

718
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,040
episode.
If you enjoyed it, please do me

719
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,560
a huge favor and tell a friend
or travelling family about the

720
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,200
show.
And hey, don't miss out on bonus

721
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,720
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722
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,600
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Thanks for tuning in.

723
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,480
Go send this episode to a
friend.

724
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,040
See you next time.
Overall, good job on the wrap up

725
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,880
call to action there was nice.
I my small critique.

726
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,720
Again, not a deal breaker.
I didn't love the long music

727
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,560
play at the end once she
finished talking.

728
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,080
I think that that could be two
seconds at the most of music and

729
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,440
then go back into that final
call to action.

730
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,200
From there it just dragged a
little bit.

731
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,000
And again, you're just, in my
opinion, that's cueing your

732
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,720
audience that the show's over
and if you want them to hear

733
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,240
that call to action, you want to
keep it tight so that they don't

734
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,200
run off.
Jonathan, go ahead.

735
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,800
There was about 5 calls to
action at the end there, and

736
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,880
there were previously in the
episode about 3 calls to action.

737
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,200
I got to slim it down a little
bit because when you tell people

738
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,360
to do too many things, they're
not going to do anything.

739
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,160
So really one or two in my
opinion.

740
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,480
Yeah, I wrote that note down as
well.

741
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,720
I although good point.
Like we, we got multiple calls

742
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,440
to action throughout the episode
and then even more at the end.

743
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,760
And yeah, I'm with you.
That too many often times causes

744
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,480
an audience to just freeze and
not do anything.

745
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,240
Anyone else want to chime in on
that?

746
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,000
Go ahead, Ralph.
I was just going to say one of

747
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,120
the things that I thought could
have been done at the end was a

748
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,440
recap of what she covered today.
I didn't really hear that.

749
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,040
I apologize if I missed it, but
I thought that would have been

750
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,360
pretty effective.
Yeah, having some overall

751
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,480
takeaways that you want to call
out so that it really sticks

752
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,360
with your audience, I think that
can be really helpful.

753
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,080
I agree with you and Dr. earlier
in today's show you mentioned

754
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,120
monetization and that you and I
were talking about monetization

755
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,600
and right there she had, she
shared one way that she

756
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,520
monetized her, monetizes her
show and that is through

757
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,960
affiliate links, which you know,
kudos to her for mentioning it.

758
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,880
Kudos for her for saying this is
a way you can support my show.

759
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,640
I think that's a that's a great
strategy.

760
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520
What were some of your other
thoughts about her as far as

761
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,360
monetization goes?
Well, number one, I see a whole

762
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:46,320
series of books in her future.
She would she would clean up if

763
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,280
you know, every place that she
visits that there would be some

764
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,120
kind of a book, maybe a section
of where kids are taking

765
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,080
pictures with their phones, you
know, from the kids point of

766
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,840
view, maybe even a section where
it's like journaling from week

767
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,680
to week, getting ready for to go
to the next destination, things

768
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,480
like that.
But on some other episodes she

769
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,600
did mention, you know, if you'd
like to set up a coaching call,

770
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,640
please, you know, go to the show
notes or something like that.

771
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,800
So she does have some kind of a
coaching monetization thing

772
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,440
going on.
I think she needs to capitalize

773
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,160
on that.
That needs to be that needs to

774
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,880
be front and center.
Also, Gosh, what about a

775
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,480
newsletter?
I didn't hear anything about a

776
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,080
newsletter.
I didn't hear anything about

777
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,600
like a Patreon or a paid
community.

778
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,600
I think that this kind of me was
just right for all of that.

779
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,640
Yeah, yeah.
Great suggestions, Dr. Thank

780
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,280
you.
I'm going to go to BC and then

781
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,000
I'm going to check in with Matt.
Go ahead BC.

782
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,880
I did notice that she mentioned
a sub stack and I just started

783
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,040
using that myself so I'm
wondering if that's where she

784
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,040
will have.
There's a newsletter section on

785
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,800
sub stacks, she might have those
there and you can also do

786
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,840
private content on there.
So I wonder if that's another

787
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Ave. for her to continue
monetizing for her show.

788
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,400
Yeah, Thank you BC.
And by the way, BC has a private

789
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,640
podcast, so I that reminded me
when he mentioned that.

790
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,320
And BC that also reminds me,
we've been wanting to do an

791
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,480
episode here at at PMC all about
private podcasting.

792
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,880
Would you be open to maybe being
our guest host and sharing

793
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,000
strategies and tips and why?
It's why it's an effective

794
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,760
strategy.
I would be more than happy to.

795
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,080
I will be very transparent.
I'm newer to the private podcast

796
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,760
and so I will do my best.
If not, I can find a more elite

797
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,320
person to bring in the forecast
on that, but I'm happy to help

798
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,440
where I can.
Right on.

799
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,960
Thank you.
We'll talk about that.

800
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,800
Thanks BC Matt, you had
something.

801
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Yeah, talking about monetization
and community and all those

802
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,880
things, I would look to not
start from the ground up and

803
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,840
look at Rory's Travel Club,
which is a very popular Irish

804
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,240
based.
I think it's ���1010.00 a year,

805
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,480
probably 10 American, 12
American something, and they

806
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,400
provide an e-mail list maybe
once a week with a bunch of

807
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,520
travel deals that are very
exclusive.

808
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,560
They are making so much money
off that.

809
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,000
And I can see something similar
here being very useful where

810
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,520
Susie can niche down a little
bit and have deals from

811
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,960
providers as a way to kind of
bundle all these Ctas together

812
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,400
into a place where instead of
going.

813
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Bop.
Bop.

814
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,760
Bop Bop bop bop.
She says go to Wonder World

815
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:40,680
School, sub, Substack, whatever,
and, you know, pay 10, whatever

816
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,520
a month or something.
Yeah, basically I'm, I'm, I'm

817
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,040
blabbing, but Rory's travel
club, look at that and use that

818
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,320
as a baseline to try and figure
out how that works.

819
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,280
Great tip.
Thank you, Matt.

820
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,800
Appreciate that.
And I'm going to ask just I'm

821
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,920
going to open the floor as we
wrap up here.

822
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,120
Any final thoughts, anything we
want to share?

823
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,480
What did she do?
Do well?

824
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,280
What?
What could she work on?

825
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,040
Overall feedback?
Matt, you have something else.

826
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,480
Go for it.
Just very quickly on the audio

827
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,880
side.
I know we've mentioned that the

828
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,080
rapid cuts are a bit of a thing,
but doing my usual detailed deep

829
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,600
dive into the audio file, it
looks like it hasn't been

830
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,000
leveled to what is usually
considered the standard between

831
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,880
-18 and everything -14 luffs for
the loudness upload.

832
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,720
And I wouldn't mention it except
that the outro seems to be

833
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,120
optimized for that, whereas the
rest of the episode isn't.

834
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Now, this could be a consequence
of the way it was edited.

835
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,720
I believe the script doesn't
output exports to the

836
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:45,720
appropriate level, which is why
people tend to bundle it with

837
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,920
Orphonic or something similar.
But that would be one thing to

838
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,480
look at because the last thing
you want is for someone to be

839
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,400
super engaged in your episode
with the volume at like 85, and

840
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,680
then for the last section to
blow out their dramas and ruin

841
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,400
that nice experience.
So, yeah, thank you for pointing

842
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,880
that out.
Cliff, did you want to add on to

843
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,240
that?
Not necessarily to that, just as

844
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,120
a final thought, if you're OK
with that.

845
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,840
Yeah, go for it.
Yeah.

846
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,720
So just the final thought, I
want to say that the host of the

847
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,800
show from the very beginning of
the episode, it's very clear

848
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,760
that she's personable, she's
knowledgeable, she's got the

849
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,160
experience, the credibility is
there from the start.

850
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,520
She's clearly got a community,
she's engaged with her

851
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,040
community.
She loves the content that she's

852
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,040
creating.
And if, if she could just allow

853
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:40,800
a lot more space in between
clips and also slow down in the

854
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,680
speaking.
I, I think she's got a fabulous

855
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,840
presence in the podcast and, and
I think great things are going

856
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,600
to come from it.
Thank you, Cliff.

857
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,360
Cliff, I'm curious, do you agree
with what seems to be the

858
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,000
majority just as far as it was,
It felt a little, I don't want

859
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,400
to say scattered.
There was a lot of information,

860
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,280
you know, from recaps of three
different episodes to money

861
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,160
saving tips to her October recap
of her personal life.

862
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,080
Like do you, do you see that as
too much?

863
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,280
No, I don't think it's too much.
I think it was just all too

864
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,920
cramped together with no space
and no understanding of where

865
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,520
you are in this process.
Now, if she does this every

866
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,800
single month where she does a
monthly recap, maybe people get

867
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,440
used to it.
But a reminder that every

868
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,680
episode is someone's first
episode.

869
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,200
And so there's a going to be a
lot of people who are even in

870
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,200
her niche audience for a target
who are going to click play on

871
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,000
this episode and think this is
all over the place.

872
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,720
And to your point, it kind of is
all over the place.

873
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,680
There's lots of things scattered
in there.

874
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,200
But some of the things that you
could do, and we we haven't done

875
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,680
this in talked about this here,
but you could create jingles for

876
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,320
certain segments and they don't
have to be long jingles, but

877
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,920
they can say and now the recap
of the month are and just just

878
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,200
little tiny placers and also
leave space in between.

879
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,040
That's it.
Yeah.

880
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Thank you, Cliff.
And that's I'm taking that

881
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,800
advice as well.
And I know I, if anybody's been

882
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,200
following us for any period of
time, you know, I say I would

883
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,480
love to add a sound effect for
this segment or do a Jingle for

884
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:26,080
that segment. 2026, we're going
to start adding those back or

885
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,840
not back.
We're going to start adding

886
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,200
those in.
I appreciate you saying that.

887
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,080
All right.
And you don't, hey, Mark, you

888
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,800
don't even have to put to have
like a whole Jingle.

889
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,040
You could just do this.
All right, so in this section

890
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,480
we're gonna do.
Absolutely, absolutely agreed.

891
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,520
I just need to get myself
organized and do that.

892
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,320
Yeah.
Thank you, Cliff.

893
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,960
Cliff, can we steal that one?
Can we steal that?

894
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,400
That's pretty.
Cool, actually that is actually

895
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,440
custom made for my podcast, so
oh shoot.

896
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,760
OK.
Yeah.

897
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560
So cool, but they're but they're
just do a search for audio

898
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,120
bumpers.
There's tons of them out there.

899
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Yeah, totally.
And the road caster, which I

900
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,880
have, comes with some as well.
All right, here's what I want to

901
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,680
go ahead.
We're short on time.

902
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,360
I'll give you the floor and then
we'll ask anybody else.

903
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,920
If they want to quickly share,
they can.

904
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,760
I wanted to say really fast that
she mentions like, please leave

905
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,200
a message at SO and so and she
has like this long URL to go to.

906
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,840
SO there is a I'm trying to
remember the name of it, not

907
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,000
pitch pipe.
What is the name of the thing

908
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,640
that I used for my where people
left a message?

909
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,920
What is the name of that thing?
Speak Pipe.

910
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,680
Thank you.
She could use this is where

911
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,520
speak pipe could really, really
help her a lot.

912
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,400
That's all I got to say.
OK.

913
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,240
For people to leave voice
messages for her.

914
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:44,000
And yeah, OK, cool.
Jonathan, final word.

915
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,000
I just thought, just like Cliff
said, she's an expert, she knows

916
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,560
her stuff.
She's just got to slow down a

917
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,040
little bit and and put some
stories in there.

918
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,840
That's that's all I would say.
Yeah, I want to hear more of her

919
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,480
personal travel stories and more
details BC go for it.

920
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,640
Yeah, real quick, just going off
of what Cliff was talking about

921
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,920
with jingles and whatnot.
For those of you who don't, if

922
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,640
anyone hasn't done YouTube
podcasting yet, YouTube offers a

923
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,200
free audio library with music
and jingles and sound effects.

924
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,720
So if you already have a Google
account, you have a YouTube

925
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:18,080
account, go to the YouTube
Studio and peruse that.

926
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,560
That's where I get all my stuff
from.

927
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,240
Yep, thank you BC I've
definitely used that on occasion

928
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:28,360
as well in my time podcasting.
All right gang, so well, I

929
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,840
should say.
All right Susie, I hope this was

930
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,360
helpful to you.
Would love to hear back from you

931
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,480
and hear if this, if it actually
was.

932
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:38,440
I think that you will be able to
pull out a few Nuggets at the

933
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,200
very least, but I think you got
a lot of good feedback.

934
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,160
So congratulations on your show.
Keep going, keep working on

935
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,400
improving it because you know
that that's what we do here is

936
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,720
we're just always looking to
improve, even if it's just 1%

937
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,280
more every day.
That's going to make a huge

938
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,200
difference in the long run.
So kudos to you, Susie, and

939
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,360
thank you to the whole team
today for their opinions, their

940
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,520
thoughts.
I love the I love BC was able to

941
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,560
chime in and he hadn't even, he
didn't even know what podcast we

942
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,000
were we were going to evaluate
on him.

943
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,400
Think unless he listened
yesterday, I guess he may have.

944
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,320
But still appreciate everybody
chiming in, giving your

945
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,680
feedback.
We're back tomorrow, 7:00 AM

946
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,800
Eastern, and we're going to talk
a little bit more about the

947
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,040
Spotify for creators Wrapped.
And we've got some other things

948
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,680
to talk about too.
And of course, we'll wrap up

949
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,080
tomorrow with our wins from this
past week.

950
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,400
So until tomorrow, make it a
great day.

951
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,080
Everybody take care.