361 - Is It Okay to Charge for Episode Release Priority?

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Good morning podcasting Morning
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Today is Friday, August 29th,
2025, and today we're diving

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into a guesting dilemma that's
raising some eyebrows.

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Then catching up with Chris and
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Good morning again, podcasting,
Morning Chat.

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Thanks so much for being here.
I am your host, Mark Ronik, and

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We've got a full house this

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We have producer Ashley Feller,

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Nick Nalback, Dr. Faye, Jonathan
Howard, Amanda Sharp, and Sid

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Meadows.
Before we dive in, I have a big

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What date exactly is it going
away?

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Dr. You sound very muffled, but
it's Friday.

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I I got my new.
Earbuds all changed to the old

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one.
Yeah, I'm super muffled.

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Super muffled.
It sounds like you're like in a

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box or something.
What day is it going away?

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It's going away Friday the 5th,
one week from today.

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So did you say 50% off?
Yeah, 5050.

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Yes.
Just making sure we said it

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again.
Yeah.

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Thank you.
And glad you're here.

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Jonathan, we shouted you out
yesterday.

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I don't want to get you too
emotional, so I just wanted to

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say we are still thinking about
you.

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And.
And the loss of it was Ryder, I

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believe.
Right.

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That's the dog's name.
And yes, it was Ryder.

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Thank you.
You're welcome.

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You're welcome.
I do relate.

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I've been through the loss of a
pet, unfortunately, a couple

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times and I, it's never easy, at
least in my experience.

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And from what I understand, I
don't think it's very easy for

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anyone.
So yeah, all of our best to you,

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Jonathan.
And so today I've already kind

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of queued it up, teed it up.
I actually even shared yesterday

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a little bit at the end of the
show, this topic I want to dive

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into.
I got an e-mail from one of my

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clients and I don't know if he's
gave me, well, he gave me

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permission to share it.
You'll hear it in the letter.

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And I don't know if he wants me
to share his name or not.

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So I'm just not going to.
And he started guesting on

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podcasts because of my
encouragement, right?

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I'm their consultant coach,
whatever you want to call me.

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And they're looking to grow
their show and finding all sorts

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of ways.
They're doing everything from

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paid ads to grass roots
marketing.

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And one of the things I said
that I noticed they weren't

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doing was guesting on other
podcasts.

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And we talk all about that here
and how effective that can be,

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especially if you have a podcast
to promote, which that's their

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mission is to grow their
community and grow their

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podcast.
So they started this journey and

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this was actually a few weeks
ago, but being that I was away,

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I'm just able to get to it now.
He says hey Mark, we had an odd

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experience today.
I signed up for Pod Match and

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already have a few guesting
opportunities and some guests

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for our show too all queued up.
Our first guest appearance was

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today.
Again, this was a few weeks ago.

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A fine conversation.
At the end we asked when the

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episode would release the answer
April of next year.

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Well, he goes on, unless we were
willing to sponsor his show,

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which would then get us
scheduled much sooner.

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He goes on to say, have you
heard of this happening to this

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degree?
We know podcasters, ourselves

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included, queue up episodes, but
nine months sort of defeats the

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purpose of guesting on someone's
show.

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Any visibility to grow our
podcast is kind of moot now.

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Curious about your thoughts and
offering it up if that's

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something the PMC crew might
want to discuss too?

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Well, I want to discuss it and
then we'll get into Chris and

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Amanda as well and their new
chapters in the world of

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podcasting.
We talked about it at the

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beginning of this week that
Amanda is leaving Song Swap

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Showdown and we and there's no
hard feelings between Amanda and

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Chris.
And so we're actually, I think

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Chris is going to be joining us
at some point as well.

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So we're going to hear a little
bit more about what their plans

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are.
But first let's talk.

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Let's first talk about the
length here, OK?

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The fact that these clients of
mine went on a podcast and they

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were told at the end of the
podcast, yeah, this is going to

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publish in nine months from now.
Why do we feel and keep in mind,

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we probably, I know we probably
have new podcasters listening to

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our show.
So let's start with this

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question.
Why do some podcasters hold

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episodes for so long?
Would somebody like to take the

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only person that does that is
Dr. because she batches.

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She batches and never releases.
I mean, that's ridiculous.

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I see why and I know Jonathan
does.

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Like, don't you do like a whole
season all at once, then you

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release it?
I can see that.

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And then to extort money from
them, that makes it even worse.

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That's just bad business.
The fact that you used the word

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extort.
I took a little gas because

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that's exactly what it is.
I didn't even think about it

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until you said the word.
But that's exactly.

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What it is?
Yeah, we'll get into the money

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stuff because I have a feeling
that's going to be a bigger

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conversation and I appreciate
what you both are saying.

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I saw that Jonathan wanted to
chime in to go ahead, Jonathan.

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And then we'll go to you.
Dan.

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It's not really that crazy.
I we have not recorded episodes

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of Coffee Social since December
and we're still releasing and

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we've got another month and a
half of releases when you record

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your episodes in advance.
Oh, and the other thing is then

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we're recording all these in
advance.

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I can decide what order I want
to put them out.

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So if you want to pay to get to
the front of the line, pay to

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get to the front of the line,
you'll get your episode released

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sooner.
I don't think it's that crazy.

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I also don't think it's that
crazy to be asking for the

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money.
Oh, interesting.

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So we'll have to hear from
Jonathan as well.

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Let's check in with Dan before
we get into the whole money

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conversation.
Go ahead, Dan.

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Hey, good morning.
Glad to be here.

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Thank you.
I agree with Jonathan probably

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9000%.
I'm on Pod Match and I can tell

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you I get 3 to 4, three to four
minimally requests a day to be a

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guest on my podcast.
So depending on the podcast, the

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length of time between episodes,
it would not be unfair to see a

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recording scheduled out until
mid next year easily.

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OK.
And then the money thing.

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I mean, we we'll wait.
Yeah.

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Thank you, Dan.
I appreciate the restraint

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there.
And I appreciate your answer as

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well.
I see my Internet.

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I'm getting the little red bar
of death.

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Hopefully, I'm being heard loud
and clear.

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I'm going to go back to Jonathan
before I go to Nick because I

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saw Jonathan wanted to respond
when Dan was sharing.

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So go ahead, Jonathan.
Are they not going to be

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promoting their podcast for
growth in nine months?

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Are they going to be set and
already ready where they need to

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be?
That's a fairpoint.

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Yeah.
It's like I thought of that too.

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My eyebrow raised when I read
that part of the e-mail.

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You're hopefully going to keep
doing your podcast in April and

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it's still going to help your
show in April.

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And I think the reason he was
saying that is because he's

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doing a real push right now
specifically.

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So this podcast is for empty
nesters, and a lot of empty

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nesters have officially become
empty nesters now that school's

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in session.
So they were trying to do a

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campaign around school coming
back, empty nesters becoming

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empty nesters.
So it ruins the timing of that

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specifically.
But like you said, there's going

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to be other things and they're
going to they're going to always

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want to grow their community.
So it yeah, it may be effects

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this promotion, but it doesn't
affect the long term growth.

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Let me go to Nick.
Yeah, but as long as the.

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Content is Evergreen going that
far out.

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It's not a terrible way to do
it.

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The more episodes you can bank
up now, the less episodes like

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the less work you have to do in
recording, planning, doing all

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that kind of stuff.
You can spend more time on

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marketing the show.
I don't think it's necessarily a

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bad thing, but I kind of feel
like with.

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Guests, interviews, things like
that, having them scheduled out

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so far in advance.
By the time April comes around,

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is the information that was
discussed in that episode going

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to be still relevant?
Is it going to be different?

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I would almost chalk it up as a
lessons learned, especially with

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this kind of campaign push that
they're trying to do.

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Talk about the release schedule.
Have your client talk to the

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person hosting this podcast and
get a feel for when these

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episodes are released because
they're trying to make this big

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push.
Then they can decide if that

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want to spend their time with or
if you want to pass and come

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back to it later sometime.
Yep, fair points.

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And I think I'm going to jump
the line for a second and go to

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Sid because I think Sid threw up
the Peppers.

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That's how we notify that we
want to say something, right,

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while you were speaking.
So I feel like maybe it had to

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do something with what you're
sharing too.

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So go ahead, Sid.
Good morning everybody.

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Kind of tagging on to what Nick
has to say.

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I would like ask a lot of
questions about this, but I

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would ask myself a lot of
questions about this.

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We we are everybody talks about
Way to Gary shows guesting on

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other podcasts.
OK, great.

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But is this the right podcast
for them to guest on?

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Is this show really going to
help them expand their reach?

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Why did you guest on this
particular show?

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Right.
I'd really dig in and ask them

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these questions to determine
whether or not it's OK for me to

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go to April.
I mean, to Nick's point, if

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they're promoting something
that's going to happen in

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January and the show doesn't air
to April, then that's an issue,

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right?
But I'd really dive into why

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this show doesn't really matter
that it's in April.

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Is this going to help my growth,
right?

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Sometimes we just go on a
podcast for the sake of going on

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a podcast and it doesn't give us
any reach that we really want or

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that we need.
So I would dig in to this before

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I would get too upset about it.
Yeah.

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And I would hope, especially
being that it's one of my

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consulting clients, I would hope
that they would do their due

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diligence prior to even getting
on the show.

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It's just as far as is this the
right fit for me.

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So I want to make the the
assumption that they did their

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homework a little bit ahead of
time.

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But yes, that's a really strong
point.

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Jeff, good morning.
Welcome.

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And what did you want to add?
Good morning, team.

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I think the real issue is the
fact that, at least from the way

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the letter was written, they
didn't tell him until after the

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interview.
Because if they'd been upfront

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about it and granted, the guy
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done interviews where we have to
direct the interviewer to stay

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on the topic that we want to
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If he had been told when the
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might have changed the topics he
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I know being in the country
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where we've been pulled in to do
multiple interviews over a few

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days and they're definitely
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A lot of our stuff doesn't come
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I make sure that the topics were
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Evergreen, still relevant.
I do think it's misbehavior

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because he waited until he could
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sounds like, as opposed to
saying, hey, this may not come

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out till nine months.
What do we need to talk about?

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What's a value versus what's
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And now that your client will
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time, I'm totally with you,
Jeff.

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That was something I was kind of
keeping in my back pocket in

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case somebody didn't say it.
Yeah, I think the big problem

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here, because I might have even
said this publicly before, I

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don't necessarily have a problem
with the strategy of, hey, I've

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got a big backlog of shows, so
your episode's not going to air

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for several months from now.
But if you want to pay, then I

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can bump you up like that
strategy in itself doesn't

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bother me that much.
It's not one that I necessarily

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would do, at least I don't think
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But I think it's fine as long as
you're saying it upfront like

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Jeff is saying, have the
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ahead of time.
And if you're not doing the

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money strategy, then at least
have the conversation that,

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yeah, this is going to air in
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And as a guest, it's your
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ask those questions upfront
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Whether or not the host offers
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I think you need to ask ahead of
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are plenty of podcasters that
batch, There are plenty of

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podcasters that go week to week.
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podcasters, whichever camp you
fall in, I think we sometimes

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just assume that's how most
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But Mark, isn't that.
I know we always talk about

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being a good podcast guest and
you want to be respectful to the

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host.
And I understand what Jonathan's

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saying and I appreciate it.
It does make sense if you're

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going to batch and do that.
But I just think that it's it's

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a little shady that you would
say it after the interview.

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It just comes down to basic, if
this person is a podcaster or

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they're not and they don't know
the deal of your podcast, now

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maybe that's on them, but you
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anybody's podcast really is.
And if you had just told them

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and they had just said
something, oh, I got something

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going on next week, well, that's
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That's all I'm saying.
I understand about the whole

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coming to the front line and
everything else that you were

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saying about sponsorships, but
it just seems like.

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Either you were.
Not informed enough, but also it

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has to do with the host too.
They need to lay out the, you

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know, we talked about as a as a
host, we should be sending

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something out, laying everything
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And I think that's just poor
management on that, that host.

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Now, again, we're only getting
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So they could have saw something
and they didn't, or they could

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have gotten something and they
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Although I got to say, they're
pretty on top of things like

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e-mail and stuff.
So I would imagine they would.

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I mean, you know, but if that's

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the case, it's kind of a little
shifty.

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But I do see what you're saying,
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I know there is a value to
batching.

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I just don't think that we need
to batch like Dr. wants to.

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Yeah, well, we have.
Do we have Janaid here in the

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audience?
I'm looking to see.

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Yeah, Janaid's here.
Janaid has an insane backlog of

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content that he's waiting to
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So yeah, it happens.
And I do agree with you.

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That's what I mean.
I was saying pretty much I think

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the same thing as you, Alex.
I think it is up to the the host

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as well to let the guest know.
But I think as a guest, if you

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have priorities, if you want
your show to air within a

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certain period of time, I think
asking when will this air is

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completely acceptable and
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Hey, Mark, I do have a question
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In this sense, let's say you do
have a guest and it just seems

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like it's timely.
Would you bump them up yourself

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or like, how does that, how do
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in that sense?
Jonathan, if there was like

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something that just came up
like, you know, in Amanda's

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case, like the chicken, there
was a chicken disease or

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something and she's always
talking about her chickens, like

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kind of fact.
So I mean, it's my show, so I

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can move it up if I want to.
But I also, you know, if

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somebody paid to have theirs
moved up, I wouldn't move it up

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before that one.
That's what I would do is if

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somebody paid their going first.
But I also threw my pepper

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because Dan wanted to go and he
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Thanks, Jonathan.
By the way, I'm going to come to

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Dan here next.
And I just appreciate what I'm

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seeing from Dave Campbell in the
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He says I have an author
interview podcast I released

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three times a week, and I have
episodes set to go live until

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into November.
I released the episode early for

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my guests within a few days of
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they don't have to wait.
So that's an interesting

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strategy.
He's picking platforms as far as

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when to release, so he'll
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But as far as the audio version,
and I'm going to guess, Dave,

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you can correct me, I'm going to
guess maybe the audio version is

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edited a little differently,
might have a little different

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feel to it, which I think is an
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what you're doing.
Yes, that is what he's doing.

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So there you go.
Appreciate that insight, Dave.

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And I see Janae loves the
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So thank you for that.
Hopefully this was helpful to

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some other people too.
Dan, what did you want to add?

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I did want to add that.
The question becomes, is it is,

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are they in it for the long
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And then as far as money goes,
what's wrong with asking people

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to sponsor their episode if they
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I see no issues with it.
Neither do I Yeah.

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It's just a matter of I think
it's important that the guest

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knows that coming in as opposed
to springing everything on them

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at the end once the show is
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Sure.
Well, and I think there's a host

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responsibility here that we
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think Jonathan touched on it
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there is a responsibility from
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That's why I do pre interviews.
What's the goal of appearing on

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this podcast is one of the
questions I ask every one of my

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potential guests.
And This is why, again, at the

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very least, A1 Sheeter needs to
be sent to a guest prior so that

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they are fully prepared and
fully understand what's going

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on.
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At the very least you need that
and in my opinion, I think

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having a pre interview to
discuss those things ahead of

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time on top of just building
some rapport and some chemistry,

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I think that is an important
strategy.

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Dr. What would you like to add
100?

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Percent on the pre interview.
And y'all stole my Thunder.

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My chili went up long before
this and I was going to say the

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timing is is what is off putting
but my.

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Question to Jonathan is how
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Do you charge?
Oh, Jonathan, are you

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comfortable revealing that you
need a couple 100 bucks?

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I think that's fair.
Go ahead, I have a couple.

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I have a couple questions
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Are you even guaranteed that
your episode will go live when

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you show up for a podcast
interview?

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That was going to be my
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Like what if people keep paying
to jump the line in your

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episode?
Instead of an April release, it

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now is December 2020.
Sixth year this and just kicked

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down the.
Road or.

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What if you're so terrible we
don't air it?

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You're not guaranteed that
you'll actually end up on the

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podcast when you record the
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Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, these are actually

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really fair questions.
So Jonathan, remind me again,

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just say the the first question
you had, he already forgot.

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Are you guaranteed?
Are you guaranteed on podcast

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just by booking it?
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So that certainly could create a
dilemma, a challenge for the for

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the host And my I think the way
I would do it if I was doing

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that would be OK.
So let's say I have a list of 10

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people now that have paid to be
on there.

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I've got to think that, let's
say if I'm talking to the 10th

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person now, basically I've got
to tell them that, yes, you can

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pay and the soonest it's going
to go up is 10 weeks from now.

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You just have to be upfront
about the release.

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And then that's up to the guests
to decide whether or not that's

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of interest to them.
And to your second question,

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what if they're not good?
Yeah, I think that creates a

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little bit of a challenge if
you're sharing upfront how you

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do things, right.
Because now if I've talked to

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you, Jonathan, and before an
interview with you and I've said

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it's going to cost you 200 bucks
and you're going to be 10th in

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line.
I actually totally forgot where

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I was going with this, but.
And I'm terrible and you're.

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Terrible.
Thank you.

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Thank you.
Then I'm stuck now, right?

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Especially if I paid you. 200
bucks or you're refunding my 200

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bucks or I have.
To refund your money.

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And just that's The thing is I
think honesty, being honest

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about it with the guest, you
know what, what didn't go in the

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direction I thought it would.
I don't think that this would

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connect well with my audience.
I don't think we talked about

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the things that my audience
would be interested in.

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I think if you let them down
that way, it's still a hard

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conversation, but better than
just saying sorry you sucked,

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here's your money back.
All right, listen, we have

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almost we have about 30 minutes
and I do want to try to get to

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wins as well.
So I'm just putting that out

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there.
But we also I really want to

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talk to Amanda and Chris.
So I am I'm going to go to you,

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Janae, since we've called you
out, we've talked about your you

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and your backlog.
So what did you want to add to

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this conversation?
Good morning, everyone.

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This is my favorite topic
casting dilemmas.

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Oh my God do I go through these
So based on.

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What I'm hearing, I love what
Dave Campbell saying.

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This is something that I also
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On a Discovery call with some
gentleman, he's like, dude, I

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have, I post my episode
recordings right away and then

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I'll tell him, hey, I'm going to
promote your episode that we

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just recorded on YouTube.
And then three months later

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we're going to promote you again
on the podcast.

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So now the guest is like, Oh my
God, that's so amazing.

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So that's another way that Dave
Campbell, what Dave Campbell is

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doing is exactly what this guy's
mentioning.

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And like, dude, I want to do
this because I have so many

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episodes I can just push on the
YouTube and be like, hey, here's

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your stuff.
And they can start promoting

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that.
So it's, it's a great idea.

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Yeah, agreed.
And another gentleman that I

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spoke with yesterday interviewed
him.

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He's like, I don't do pre
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Like what?
Like yeah, I don't do pre

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interviews because if I have to
do a pre interview and then I

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have to record them again,
that's they're taking two spots

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in my calendar and he's
publishing 4 podcasts.

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So I was like, wow.
So he's like, I schedule a 90

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minute.
To 60 minute time and then I'll

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spend the 1st 10 minutes get.
To know them and then record the

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episode so that there's enough
time.

452
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,720
And like that's not a bad
strategy because you're taking,

453
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,360
you know, less time away from
your calendar because think

454
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:57,960
about it, right, Time is not
coming back.

455
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,640
So might as.
Well do a good job and pre

456
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,640
vetting if they were even a good
guest to come on the show and

457
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,600
then.
Take the one time and record it.

458
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,080
And if you want to record
another episode with them to

459
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,120
schedule another time.
And that, that's something that

460
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,920
I've been doing as well, yeah.
Janae, I understand that

461
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,360
philosophy.
I'm not sure that I agree with

462
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:23,280
that philosophy.
But what if you discover in the

463
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,080
1st 10 minutes that this is not
really, they're the right guests

464
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240
for you, their energy level is
off.

465
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,160
You don't like what they're
going to talk about?

466
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,600
Like do you just abruptly say,
sorry, I don't think this is a

467
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,720
good fit and hang up?
I mean, that sounds really rude

468
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,680
to me to do that.
So I mean, I just like it's

469
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:46,120
risky to schedule 90 minutes in
the 1st 10 minutes be let's just

470
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,520
discuss.
And then if you decide it is or

471
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,720
it isn't, I don't know, Dave
Campbell say he's done that.

472
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,760
So Yep.
Yeah, we could.

473
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,080
Totally do that I've turned
people away to say hey we could

474
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,960
record but I would recommend
that you get a microphone a

475
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,320
better lighting because I can't
really see you so until you come

476
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520
back we.
Can't really record an episode.

477
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000
So there, there that is
something that we can do.

478
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,920
Yeah, I'm with Sid.
I mean, yes, you can.

479
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,720
Absolutely.
It's your show.

480
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,760
So I hear that strategy.
It makes sense to me and I agree

481
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,400
with Sid.
For me, I personally find

482
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,960
there's something different
about the chemistry on the show.

483
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,360
If I meet with this person prior
to the show, not 10 minutes

484
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:38,320
prior, but actually a day, days
before the show, or maybe even a

485
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,240
week or two or three depending
on my schedule.

486
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,320
But there's something different
about having that moment with

487
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,080
them initially, getting to know
them.

488
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,800
You're, you're building up that
rapport and then the next time

489
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,120
you sit down with them, there is
a different level of comfort

490
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,920
both on both sides that I
experience.

491
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,480
That's why I don't prefer to do
the 10 minutes prior.

492
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,640
I'm not saying it's a bad
strategy and I have done it

493
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,720
before just because of
scheduling conflicts and such

494
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,400
and we needed to meet prior.
So we just decide, OK, we'll do

495
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,480
it 1015 minutes before.
But in most cases, that's not

496
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,080
the strategy I prefer.
OK, I think we're in a good

497
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,480
place to stop here.
I will say, listen, I respect

498
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,560
those podcasters who backlog.
I respect what Janae does.

499
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,560
I respect what Dave does.
I think I have clients that work

500
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:43,160
that way and it's a breath of
fresh air, The consistency, it

501
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,880
is a piece of cake at that
point.

502
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,960
You can constantly publish
episodes.

503
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,800
You don't have to worry about
racing the clock.

504
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040
There is a that is a excellent
strategy.

505
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040
And if you're going to charge
people to jump the line, in my

506
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,080
opinion, please tell them
upfront that there's just

507
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,440
something icky about waiting
till the end.

508
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,440
In my opinion, it would hit me
wrong as a guest, I would have a

509
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,080
bad taste in my mouth.
But if you told me ahead of time

510
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800
and you're giving me that
option, I'm going to actually

511
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,200
appreciate that.
And as a guest, I encourage you

512
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,320
to ask these questions ahead of
time.

513
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480
And if you don't have a pre
interview scheduled with that

514
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,440
host, have your basic list of
questions to ask a host.

515
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,400
And as a matter of fact, since
this is last minute, e-mail me,

516
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Mark, Marc at Ironic Media,
IRONICK, media.com and in the

517
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,880
subject line, put guest
questions.

518
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,040
I will send you my list of
questions that I encourage

519
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,520
podcasters to ask guests.
I'm sorry, guests to ask

520
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,480
podcasters ahead of time.
Yeah, let's do that.

521
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,440
So with that, we're going to
shift gears and check in with

522
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,720
Chris and Amanda now.
Chris, you're in the audience,

523
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,600
so please come on up and join us
if you'd like.

524
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,040
Chris announced at the beginning
of this week here on the show

525
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,640
and elsewhere.
He announced that Amanda is

526
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,180
stepping down from Song Swap
Showdown and he's got a new Co

527
00:29:19,180 --> 00:29:21,200
host.
Chris, do you want to share who

528
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,240
your Co host is for those who
haven't heard it yet?

529
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,680
Yeah, sure.
I didn't have to look very far

530
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,000
from my Co host.
It's my wife Rachel, which, you

531
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,680
know, none of that was planned.
We were already talking about

532
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,320
trying to do a project together
because we do so much separate

533
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,440
stuff and we just said it'd be
nice to have something to do

534
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,040
together.
And so we're trying to think of

535
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,680
things that we might be able to
do together with the time that

536
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,760
we have.
And then just through these

537
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,160
events that happened, the timing
worked out.

538
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,880
And I said, would you want to be
Co host song swap showdown with

539
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,280
me?
And she was like absolutely be

540
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,840
so much fun.
So that's what we decided to do

541
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,640
when we did they debut episode
with her on Tuesday night.

542
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520
Monday nights are going to be
the new time, Mondays at 7

543
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,560
instead of Mondays at 8:00 AM.
But we had Internet problems on

544
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,760
Monday, so we did it on Tuesday
night and it was a lot of fun.

545
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,760
It was great.
I mean, I told Amanda it was

546
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,240
really, really weird.
I mean not, I was just going to

547
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,080
ask how.
Was it because it's your wife?

548
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,920
And so there's got to be a level
of comfort, but at the same

549
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080
time, it's got to be so weird.
It's, it's weird.

550
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,800
I mean, we've done a show
together before.

551
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,960
We did like an American Horror
Story show where we followed the

552
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,160
season 1984 together and we
would come right on and do a

553
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,040
recap of that.
We did that and it was a lot of

554
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,640
fun, but we haven't done
anything since then.

555
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480
It's just different, you know, I
mean, Amanda and I have been

556
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,840
doing a show together for five
years.

557
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,520
We have a, we have an instinct
chemistry and there's an energy.

558
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Amanda brings it all that stuff.
I mean, anybody who's watched

559
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480
her listen to show knows my wife
brings something completely

560
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,920
different and she's not trying
to beat Amanda.

561
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,080
She doesn't want it like none of
that stuff.

562
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,120
She's just being 100% her and,
you know, and she was really

563
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,800
nervous too.
So I think as we do more

564
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,160
together, we'll settle into it
and get into a rhythm in a

565
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,560
groove.
But yeah, it was definitely

566
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,800
weird.
I told the man it was like, it

567
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,480
was fun, but it was super weird
and different.

568
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,040
But hey, I'm glad we're we're
keeping it going and and keeping

569
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960
everything that Amanda and I
built together for five years

570
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,880
because it's been a lot of hard
work to get the show to where it

571
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,080
is today.
I think this will work out.

572
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,720
I feel good about it.
And so, yeah, that's the bits.

573
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,520
And I guess we'll be on again
another Tuesday because it's

574
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Labor Day next week.
That's right.

575
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,760
So I guess we'll do another two.
We're going to be on Mondays,

576
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,480
but the first two shows are
going to be on Tuesdays.

577
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,960
Congratulations, I'm sure that
is weird.

578
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,600
And let's go to your this is
weird to say.

579
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,080
Let's go to your former Co host
Amanda Sharp.

580
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,920
Good morning Amanda.
Now how weird I'm going to

581
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,840
guess, and maybe I'm wrong, that
you at least peaked at the show

582
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,200
with with the new Co host.
So was that a weird experience

583
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,720
for you?
Of course.

584
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,240
I did one because I want to
support it, but two, yeah, I

585
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,680
wanted to see how they fit into
the flow with each other, even

586
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,120
though they're married to each
other for many, many years.

587
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,520
And they did a great job and it
gave me, I did it more to get

588
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,720
peace, if I'm being completely
honest, like, OK, this is good.

589
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,200
This is good.
Like I could closure.

590
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,760
Yes.
Yes.

591
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,640
Like I didn't feel like Chris
was just left hanging, which was

592
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,360
one of my fears.
And so the fact that I just feel

593
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,080
like I was maybe a placeholder
for Rachel all this time.

594
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,040
And I really think that this.
Show.

595
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,240
I just feel like Chris and
Rachel being logistically

596
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,320
seriously like living together
just has this opportunity to

597
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,160
grow it into something even
bigger that because Chris and I

598
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,920
are literally in several states
away from each other, we just

599
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,640
never could.
So I'm just really excited to

600
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,320
see where it goes.
I'm so happy.

601
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
I like, it's sad though.
Like I'll be honest, it's really

602
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,120
sad because it's not like Chris
and I had any issue with each

603
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,000
other.
There was no blow up.

604
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,720
There was no issues.
It was just, life is good really

605
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,200
for both of us, even though
there's a lot happening and and

606
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,760
sometimes you have to make
decisions to even leave the good

607
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,520
things and that was hard.
I'm sure it was and I was that I

608
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,640
was going to be.
My next question is what was

609
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,920
behind the decision.
But I guess that's you've shared

610
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,680
it, but is there anything else?
I'll let me pry a little bit

611
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440
further.
It was anything else behind that

612
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,960
decision to walk away?
And is this walking away from

613
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,080
everything regarding podcasting,
including this show?

614
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,360
Great question.
Well, so I, I put this in the

615
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,000
same category as when I first
opened the store.

616
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,680
I was very in this community,
showed up every single day, was

617
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,600
leading the rooms.
And then when I went to open the

618
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,800
store 4 years ago, I really had
to step back because I had to

619
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,120
put my full attention into
getting that up and running.

620
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,520
And when I got that down, I was
able to kind of come back into

621
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,720
the space and, and do some of
the, the rooms.

622
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,680
And I put that in the same
category.

623
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,360
I can't, although this time it
does feel a little different, if

624
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,080
I'm being honest, because I feel
like I can like I'm continuing

625
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:14,080
to grow in just such different
ways so fast that to have time

626
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,080
to do certain things that I used
to love, you got to go through

627
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,199
like choosing which is the next
path, which is the bigger impact

628
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,040
item now, because it's not just
about the making the money and

629
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,719
making the sales.
Now I'm on this like entire

630
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,600
mission of going, where is my
impact?

631
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,440
Where is my time going?
Putting an hour of my time here.

632
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,880
How will that help a community
versus putting an hour over

633
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,360
here?
And how will it help that

634
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,560
community?
So it's, it's kind of I'm in a,

635
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,960
in a point in my life where I'm,
I only have so many hours on a

636
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120
day and I have to really choose
hard where those hours go.

637
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,120
And creatively doing the show
with Chris was such therapy for

638
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,000
me.
And we are so close.

639
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,840
He is one of my bestest of
friends and I love him so much.

640
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,480
And so to take away like that
weekly coffee date with my best

641
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,080
friend, that was hard too.
It wasn't just I was giving up

642
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,280
the podcast.
It was I was giving up this

643
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,640
dedicated time that I had with
one of my best friends each

644
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,680
week.
So it's just been a whirlwind of

645
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,120
decisions.
All for good reasons, though.

646
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,400
Well, that's exciting, it
sounds.

647
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,360
Exciting and I appreciate you
elaborating.

648
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,600
And if you know if this is a
matter of not having enough

649
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,280
time, stop going to bed at 5:00
PM in the evening.

650
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:32,440
It is.
Like 830.

651
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,120
Thank you very much.
Okay, well, and to be fair

652
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,520
though, like I also have to have
reset time.

653
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,520
Yeah, because I grind and work
and think so hard during the

654
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,680
hours that I'm on that I really
have to respect that.

655
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,360
I have to allow myself to reset
and have hours that I'm off and

656
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,040
spend time with my family still.
So having those boundaries are

657
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,080
very, very important because I'm
good to know one if I'm down and

658
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,040
out and sick.
Yeah.

659
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:08,760
And so you'll continue, I am
assuming based on what I'm

660
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,080
seeing, you're going to
continued your tik toking is

661
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,840
that you say yeah and and.
I'm tripling down on that, yeah.

662
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,640
OK.
That's what I was curious about.

663
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,520
You're going to.
So I guess it's not it's time

664
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,280
consuming, but in a different
way.

665
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,640
And I'm already doing this stuff
anyway, so I'm just consciously

666
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,480
really looking at every single
thing I'm doing and pausing to

667
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,040
capture a moment of that.
So it's really not a lot of

668
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,080
extra time.
It's just setting my brain to

669
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,640
see the opportunity to actually
hit the record button because I

670
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,560
have content all day long.
It's just a matter of reminding

671
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,440
myself pause, record it real
quick, post it because a video

672
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,640
only might take me 5 minutes
tops.

673
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:56,200
It's not very time consuming.
And finally, my last question

674
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,880
for you, and then I'll let Sid
chime in.

675
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Any advice for a podcaster
listening right now who's on the

676
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,680
fence about continuing their,
their journey?

677
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,680
And you know, let's let's say
they're in similar shoes to

678
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,480
where you were.
You know, it's, it's not just

679
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,120
that they're burnt out on
podcasting specifically, but

680
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,240
what what's your advice to
somebody in similar shoes as

681
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,480
yours?
You know, it's hard because I

682
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,520
never got burnt out on
podcasting.

683
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,040
I just had to make a decision.
So I can't come at it from a a

684
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,080
point of, oh, I'm just tired of
doing this and it's time my

685
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,240
season for this is done for that
reason.

686
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,840
And I'll have to say Chris being
one of my bestest friends, I

687
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,560
feel like knew he needed to say
the words for me.

688
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,840
He just kind of flat out said
like, are you done like

689
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,320
lovingly, like I, I, I feel like
you're there and you just can't

690
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,240
say it.
And he was 100% right.

691
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:59,160
So he kind of threw me the ball
to be able to say the words that

692
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,280
I just wasn't brave enough at
the time to be able to say that

693
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,320
I knew in my heart of hearts
that I need to do.

694
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,720
So Chris helped me make that
decision, if I'm being honest.

695
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:12,160
So if you have a Co host that
might be struggling in that way

696
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,560
or a friend who's struggling in
that way, maybe throwing that

697
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,720
lifeline that really can help
them be brave enough to make the

698
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:23,240
decision that they know that
they're struggling with Amanda.

699
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,880
And I always, from day one,
always said to each other that,

700
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,480
you know, we need to be 100%
honest with each other all the

701
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,360
time.
And if and when the time comes

702
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,240
that it's time for both of us or
one of us to step away because

703
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,400
the show's not fun anymore, it's
too much work or just, you know,

704
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,120
you're just simply can't do it.
Like we just, we have to be

705
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,280
honest about it.
We do the show because we love

706
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,440
it and it's fun.
And the minute it starts feeling

707
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,480
like work or oh God, I got to do
the show again, it's definitely

708
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,640
time.
Because the point of the show is

709
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,080
that her and I get together and
have a really good time.

710
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,000
She needed to make space in her
life for things that are a

711
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,480
bigger priority than the show.
I totally understand that.

712
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,280
It's, you know, it comes down to
like a time personal decision,

713
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,040
but also a bit of a business
decision.

714
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,280
A lot of the time Amanda spends
is helping drive her mission,

715
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,920
which helps drive business and
all that.

716
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,120
So it's, yeah, I mean, I just, I
felt it was coming and I just

717
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,360
said, you know what?
Let me just let me just ask her

718
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,440
because I felt it.
And I know because I think if it

719
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,240
was me, I would have a hard time
saying the words too.

720
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,480
And I know that if I had a hard
time, Amanda would 1000% be

721
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,360
like, are you done with the
show?

722
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,040
I know that she would do the
same thing.

723
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,960
So it was just, I feel like
somebody had to say it and help

724
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,720
and it was more of a helping
thing than like, you know, me

725
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:44,320
trying to get my wife and her
because at that time I wasn't

726
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,680
even Rachel and I even talking
about her even being on it.

727
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,720
That wasn't even a thing yet.
This was going back into July.

728
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,320
Even Rachel becoming a host on
the show is very fast.

729
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,480
It wasn't something we were
planning on doing for months on

730
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,160
end and all that stuff that
didn't go down like that at all.

731
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,640
Thank you, Chris.
Appreciate that.

732
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Amanda, did you have anything
you wanted to add before I go to

733
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,440
Sid?
OK, I know she doesn't.

734
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,880
OK, so let's go to Sid.
Sid, did you have a question?

735
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000
Couple of comments.
First off, Chris and.

736
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,680
Amanda, congratulations to you
guys for a successful run of

737
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,920
Song Swap Showdown.
You guys have done a great job

738
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,800
with that.
So congratulations to you both

739
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,960
and congratulations to you both
on the next chapter.

740
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,080
It's really exciting for both of
you.

741
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,640
I want to say to Amanda boss,
what would my life be if I

742
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,480
hadn't showed up in a clubhouse
room almost five years ago and

743
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,920
met Amanda?
Having watched your journey, you

744
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,600
know, Amanda, it's super
impressive.

745
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,920
Or you'd, I mean, it's an
example of grit, determination,

746
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,160
perseverance, like I'm going to
do this come hell or high water

747
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,880
commitment.
And I think it's the lessons

748
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,720
that you're sharing are good for
all of us to be able to see what

749
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,320
it means to be committed to
something.

750
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,520
I mean, it was just a few months
ago.

751
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:09,600
You're talking about closing the
store now?

752
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,800
Look, you're crossing it.
With this store, right?

753
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:16,720
And you've really leaned into
your community and uplifting

754
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,080
your community.
And by doing that and all these

755
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,640
amazing events that you're
putting on and starting a

756
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,240
farmers market and a reverse
craft show that I have no idea

757
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:29,320
what that is.
And all these things that you're

758
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,800
doing is uplifting your
community.

759
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,280
It's bringing people in.
And not only is it helping you

760
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,880
and your store and your vision,
it's helping all of the other

761
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,880
small businesses around you,
which is absolutely amazing,

762
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,680
leaning into the power of
community.

763
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,320
So I'm super proud of you.
I'm super proud that I had the

764
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,040
opportunity to meet you, become
friends with you, and I'm so

765
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,800
excited for the next chapter
with you.

766
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,400
I just hope they will come back
and join us occasionally because

767
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,600
I'm sure going to miss you being
here on a regular basis.

768
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,320
So with that Mark, I'll pass it
back to you.

769
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,400
I'll.
Just pass it on to Amanda, let

770
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,480
her respond and Chris if he
wants to as well.

771
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,960
Thank.
You, Sid, for all of that and

772
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,240
you all have been equally as
inspiring and kept me going and

773
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:18,160
said, when you say truly, I was
at the point where I was going

774
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,920
to have to close my store.
I just did not see a path.

775
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,080
And I will give Marcus full
credit.

776
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,720
He said, let's change your date
a little bit.

777
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,280
And I just went for it.
And I, I just feel like this

778
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:38,080
year has finally like the cloud
has been lifted and life is not

779
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,480
easier and by any means, it's
just different.

780
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:47,000
But to see how far I've come
over well since clubhouse even

781
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,160
became a thing is exciting.
And I just, I was just telling

782
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,320
Chris yesterday, I feel like I
can almost like reach what's

783
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,680
next in my season.
I just can't see what it is yet.

784
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,640
I just know everything that I'm
doing today is like catapulting

785
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:09,920
me into this forward motion that
like has my hair blowing back.

786
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Like it's just so exciting to
see.

787
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,320
And so I'm very open minded to,
you know, what's next in my, my

788
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,440
life, but I'm really having a
good time living on my community

789
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,120
and advocating for my community.
And like many of you said,

790
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,200
making Ida, which is a tiny
little town, a destination

791
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,640
because it doesn't just help me,
it helps the entire community.

792
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,480
And that feels so good, Love.
That Amanda and I echo what

793
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,600
everything Sid said and
especially the part about coming

794
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,840
and joining us at some point.
We we want you here as much as

795
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,840
you're able to give us.
Amanda, you always have great

796
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,960
contributions to the
conversations and there's just

797
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,080
something about your presence in
this room that's calming and I

798
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,400
would hate to lose that.
So anytime feel free to come in

799
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,800
and join us.
You are always a Co host of the

800
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,920
podcasting morning chat and we
are going to miss you and your

801
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,240
presence a great deal.
But of course you're not going

802
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,760
far.
We can always reach out to you.

803
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,320
We can always connect with you
in other ways, yes.

804
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,120
And I say please, I welcome
that.

805
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,000
I mean, if you want myself, if
anyone wants my phone number,

806
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000
they can have it, please send me
DMSI mean I'm not.

807
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,480
I'm not going away.
I just am not able to do

808
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,320
podcasting at this time, and
that's OK.

809
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,880
Yep.
It is, it is and we love your

810
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,760
TikTok journey and we will be
following that as well.

811
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,880
All right, so with that, it's
time to share wins from the

812
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,240
week.
I'm inviting our live audience

813
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,520
to come up on stage and join us.
Bring one win from your week

814
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,200
that you'd like to celebrate.
We want to celebrate it with

815
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,120
you.
I will kick it off today and say

816
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,560
I'll give two quick ones and
then slightly longer win to

817
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,400
share with you.
First, it was confirmed as of

818
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,080
yesterday around close of
business that the 20 high school

819
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,440
students in the Charlotte, NC
area are attending the Empowered

820
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,680
Podcasting Conference.
Which is awesome for so many

821
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,120
reasons, but I'm going to.
I said this would be short, so

822
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,200
I'm just going to keep going.
I also saved myself about 3 to

823
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,400
$4000 on photography and
videography for the Empowered

824
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Podcasting event.
Gil Dormius, who was a speaker

825
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,400
last year, is coming back this
year, not as a speaker, but he's

826
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,640
actually coming back to take
photos, take video, and he is a

827
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,920
professional photographer.
And then a couple of days ago, I

828
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,600
got an e-mail from Yvonne
Marchesi offering to also do the

829
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,360
photography and videography.
And as I said, you're saving me

830
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,280
3 to 4 grand because that's what
I had to pay the people that I

831
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,760
had been talking to.
And what's the biggest win about

832
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,920
it too?
Well, I guess it's equally as

833
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,840
big of a win is the photographer
I was working with, I was

834
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,840
talking with, pulled their
proposal last minute, literally

835
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,120
on Monday.
It went from in the morning, can

836
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,600
you do it?
And I said, yes, can you do?

837
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,320
And I negotiated a little bit.
They agreed on the negotiated

838
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,800
terms and then a few hours later
said, you know what, I have

839
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,080
another client that that's asked
and I'm going to go that in that

840
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,240
direction.
So I had no photographer, no

841
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:32,280
videographer until all of a
sudden I heard from Yvonne, I

842
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,720
heard from Gil.
So thank you very much for

843
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,880
saving me the money and the
aggravation and to have two

844
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,800
people that I truly and
genuinely trust and I know get

845
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,880
me and get a lot of my vision.
It's really comforting to have

846
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,480
you there and my last win to
share with you today.

847
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,640
I'm pushing through a ton of
discomfort, a ton of challenges

848
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,680
and a lot more fears than I
expected around this year's

849
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,640
Empowered Podcasting conference.
The event itself is probably,

850
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,440
it's been one of my biggest
tests, I think in my

851
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,840
professional career.
And I know I said, I know I've

852
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,360
done this before and you might
be thinking, but Mark, this

853
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680
should be old hat, right?
You did it last year.

854
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,480
It went really well.
Well, yes.

855
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,920
And it's different this year.
I have a somewhat different

856
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,880
leadership team.
I don't have my partner.

857
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,200
Last year I had Lloyd George,
who was an equal partner in

858
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,800
this.
Lloyd will be back to the

859
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,360
conference this year actually
for the first time cuz he had

860
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,200
COVID right when the conference
started, so he couldn't join.

861
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,360
But he'll be back and he'll be
speaking this year, but he's no

862
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,440
longer a partner in this.
So this all was on my shoulders

863
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,120
and I've had a lot of challenges
along the way and yet here we

864
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,080
are.
It's still come together and

865
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,520
we're less than four weeks away.
So my win is that I'm pushing

866
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,200
through what's really be it been
a very challenging thing for me

867
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,600
personally and professionally.
So with that, I know I took

868
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,120
three wins and being that we are
short on time, I'm going to ask

869
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,840
everybody to share one win with
us if possible.

870
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,840
So I'd like to start first with
our guests on the stage and I'm

871
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,120
going to encourage those of you
who are listening come up and

872
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,120
share.
Let's celebrate a win.

873
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,120
It's important to stop and smell
the roses.

874
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,640
If we're just grinding every
day, day in and day out, that's

875
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,720
exactly what it's going to end
up feeling like.

876
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,960
It's going to feel like a grind.
But it's those moments where we

877
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,240
stop, even if they're what you
consider small, It's those

878
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,600
moments that we stop and
recognize it and celebrate it.

879
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,400
That we can diminish that feel
of the grind where we can start

880
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,800
to recognize that we are
enjoying the process and that

881
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,280
there are challenges, but that
we're still enjoying the process

882
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,480
along the way.
So with that, I'm going to start

883
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,760
with you, Jeff, if you are open
to it, would you share a win

884
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,280
with us from your week?
The big win for the week is song

885
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,680
swap showdown is still alive and
kicking.

886
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,240
And I made it through an entire
episode with my wife and we

887
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,760
didn't kill each other.
No, we had a it was it was

888
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,800
actually a really fun time.
I wasn't sure how she was going

889
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,440
to be after that, but she was
like, that was so much fun.

890
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,360
I can't wait to do it again.
So that's a huge win.

891
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,880
That's bringing harmony into my
house is a is always a huge win.

892
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:18,280
I love.
It I love it.

893
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Thank you, Chris, and
congratulations to you as well.

894
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,440
Let's go to Janae.
Janae, please share a win with

895
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,120
us today.
Hanging out with my kiddos and

896
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,800
woke up early, but really
understanding and getting to

897
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,320
know that I get to publish these
podcast episodes ahead of time

898
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,480
and need to go make some
smoothie.

899
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,760
All right, thanks guys.
Congratulations, Janae.

900
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,360
Yvonne, welcome to the stage.
Please share a win with us.

901
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,400
I was.
Trying to go to.

902
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,320
Put an emoji on Janae and he's.
Like oh, oh oh.

903
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,600
So I survived my first week as
an empty nester.

904
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,920
Congratulations.
Thank you very.

905
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:04,000
Much And I put together a plan
for growing my YouTube channel,

906
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,480
started putting together file
folders to manage all the videos

907
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,440
and all the things.
So I got a lot of organizational

908
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,520
and planning work done this week
and I have been practicing spins

909
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:23,000
on my roller skates and I got
around 1 1/2 times on a spin

910
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,120
yesterday.
So major win.

911
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Congratulations, I was waiting
for Sid to react.

912
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,600
He just threw you the the death
emoji.

913
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,640
Sid very concerned about our
roller skaters in the community.

914
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,120
I know.
I'm all padded up, Sid.

915
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,920
I'm all padded up.
Well, congratulations and thank

916
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,280
you Yvonne for offering to do
photography and videography for

917
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,720
the Empowered Podcasting
Conference.

918
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,920
I am so excited that you
offered.

919
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,760
I am.
Very excited and yeah, we should

920
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,680
talk more.
Talk to you soon, yes?

921
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,200
We will.
And by the way, again, EPC LD50

922
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923
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924
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And that ticket doesn't just
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We're going to feed you as well.
We, we're, we do a free catered

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So come join us and maybe most
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936
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,880
Sambaza, welcome to the stage.
What?

937
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,800
What can you share with us?
Give us a win from your week.

938
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,240
Hey Mark, I am so sorry.
I know I made a promise to you

939
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,600
and we already talked about it,
but I am grateful and honored to

940
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,280
be here and hang out with you
guys all the time.

941
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,000
I wish I'd be there for the
Empowered Podcasting, but.

942
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,400
We'll have to pin on that for
next year.

943
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,040
My apologies.
That's OK.

944
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,360
Somebody and I know and I, I
don't know details and I know

945
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,720
this, there's a family thing
that you can't make it to

946
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:22,440
Empowered Podcasting.
And as I told you, family first,

947
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,640
I get it.
Don't feel guilty and I know

948
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,480
there will be plenty of other
opportunities.

949
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,320
Thank you.
Thank you so much.

950
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,920
Now my win for the week.
This past weekend we hosted an

951
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,480
event that I was helping out.
I say helping out because we had

952
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,560
a team.
So I have to say the team that I

953
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,400
worked with, we managed to host
an event well for the Kenyans

954
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,160
living in our community and this
is a picnic that we started.

955
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:51,160
What we revived it last year and
this year we actually got up to

956
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,600
500 people.
Last year it was about 200.

957
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,280
This year it went up to plus
over 500 people and everybody

958
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,000
had great fun.
And they enjoyed it.

959
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Now, I was at another function
yesterday evening and I

960
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,240
mentioned it to somebody and
they were like, yeah, yeah, you

961
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,440
guys are doing so many so, so
good things.

962
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,160
And they mentioned it in terms
of the pictures that were sent

963
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,880
out in different groups on their
WhatsApp groups.

964
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,040
And I was like, oh, wow, this is
great.

965
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,480
So that was my win for the week.
And thank you so much for

966
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,720
allowing me to speak.
You all have a great weekend.

967
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,600
You too.
Congratulation on

968
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:32,280
congratulations on your wins.
I appreciate it.

969
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,040
And Jonathan, I got you want to
share a win before we let you go

970
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,520
because I know you got to get
out of here.

971
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,440
Yeah, just running out of here,
but sure, my win is I'm here

972
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,000
today.
But I want to thank everybody

973
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,800
for all the kind words of
support and everything this

974
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,520
week.
It was.

975
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,680
A rough week.
But I appreciate everybody being

976
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,400
here for me.
You got it.

977
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,200
You're welcome.
And we will continue to be here

978
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,440
for you, Jonathan.
And I know you got to go over

979
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,920
across the street, as you say to
the other app.

980
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,720
I don't know why we we dance
around it, the chatter app.

981
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:08,600
And I'll have some updates on
chatter for you for you all next

982
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,080
week.
And with that, I'm looking at

983
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,320
the time here.
I'm going to ask our moderators

984
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,440
if you've got a win to share,
come off mic and share it.

985
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,840
And if if, well, I don't want to
say if you don't have a win,

986
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,440
because I really hope you do
have a win.

987
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,440
So I'll just say I'm not going
to force every all of our Co

988
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,680
hosts to share if they don't
want to, but come off Mike, if

989
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,760
you'd like to share my.
Wind is just that the Sun Swap

990
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,520
showdown went on with Chris and
his beautiful wife and that just

991
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,200
puts my heart at such peace.
So I hope they have many more

992
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,200
years of success with the
podcast.

993
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,800
There you go.
Congratulations, Amanda, and

994
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:49,240
congratulations on your decision
and your future moves here on in

995
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,400
the Internet space, right?
Not podcasting, but we know

996
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,800
you're going to still be around
on TikTok and Instagram and all

997
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,440
of the rest.
And we will miss you.

998
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,720
And we are excited to continue
to follow you and cheer you on.

999
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:04,480
And of course, looking forward
to having you back whenever

1000
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,320
you're able to join us.
I'm going to keep you on all of

1001
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,480
our behind the scenes texts and
groups unless you ask to be

1002
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,440
removed just so that you can
still feel like you're a part of

1003
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,440
it if you'd like to be.
All right.

1004
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,320
So anyone else want to share
before I wrap us up?

1005
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,400
Yeah, go ahead, Sid.
I think all of.

1006
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,960
You that.
Own.

1007
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,760
Your own business and run your
own business realized that it

1008
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,000
can be a lonely road, right?
And so last week actually really

1009
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,000
implemented this week, I think
this intention to connect with

1010
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,480
people for no reason whatsoever
other than to just chat.

1011
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,840
And because most people I'm
connecting with also own their

1012
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,840
own businesses.
And so I set that intention and

1013
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,880
I had four really amazing calls
this week with just people to

1014
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,120
just catch up and talk.
And it's really interesting.

1015
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,080
It's not what our goal was, but
every one of them is asked if we

1016
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,520
could get on a regular cadence
of doing this maybe like once a

1017
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,200
quarter or something.
And it just underscores for me

1018
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:08,320
that, you know, being being
kind, reaching out, connecting

1019
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,720
with people, talking with people
just for the sake of connecting

1020
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:15,400
with them and not trying to sell
them anything or, you know, be

1021
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,640
do ask them to do anything just
to catch up.

1022
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,000
He's got a lot of power behind
it.

1023
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,680
So my win is I set that
intention, I implemented it and

1024
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,520
it's going really well.
And I'm really glad I did it.

1025
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,680
Congratulations, Sid, and thank
you for sharing that with us.

1026
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,360
I think there's that, that's
something encouraging that I

1027
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,720
think we could all learn from
even as podcasters.

1028
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,680
Maybe if you're not an
entrepreneur, but you do have a

1029
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,680
podcast.
I know I have some regularly

1030
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,520
scheduled calls with some people
in this industry and it is

1031
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,440
always a pleasure and I always
end up walking away, not just

1032
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,080
feeling more connected, but
usually walking away with some

1033
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,840
great insights along the way
too.

1034
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,520
I think that's such a great
idea.

1035
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,880
And what a coincidence did where
I just reached out to you this

1036
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,520
morning and said it's been a
minute since we've talked off

1037
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,160
air and I wanted to have a just
a call to shoot the S with you.

1038
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,240
And here we go.
You're already doing that.

1039
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,400
So I'm, I'm glad and you will be
getting the call from me very

1040
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,000
soon.
So with that, thank you all for

1041
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,720
a great week of shows, a week
back of shows after we took the

1042
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,320
week off.
Appreciate it and really enjoyed

1043
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,480
all these conversations today in
particular and yesterday, the

1044
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,560
whole Taylor Swift thing.
It's been a fun week.

1045
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,440
Thank you.
And we're back again next week,

1046
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,400
not doing the Monday thing yet.
We're still going to do the

1047
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,040
Tuesday through Friday thing.
And I think I might keep that

1048
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,440
going through the rest of
September until the conference

1049
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,760
is over because I need that
time.

1050
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,760
Did somebody have their hand up
or want to say something?

1051
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,560
OK, just making sure.
I thought I saw something flash

1052
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,160
a moment ago.
So with that, join us Tuesday,

1053
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,680
7:00 AM Eastern Time.
We will be live here on

1054
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Clubhouse, live on YouTube.
And of course, if you can't make

1055
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,880
it live, you can catch us just a
few hours later on your favorite

1056
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,320
podcast platform.
And until Tuesday, make it a

1057
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,120
great Labor Day weekend.
Everybody take care.