527. Podcasting Mistakes Creators Never Forget

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Marc Ronick: Good morning,

podcasters.

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Today is Thursday, may 28 2026
and today we're
exploring

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podcasting lessons creators
rarely forget, the
moments

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that went sideways, the
decisions they rethink, and the

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changes that only happened
after experience stepped in.

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So, if
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Good morning again, podcasting

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morning show.
Thank
you so much for being

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here.
I am your host, Mark Ronick, and

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currently on stage with me we
have Alex Bailish, Ralph Estep,

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D.R.
Fay, and BC Babbles.

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Also on stage with us, Dan
Schultz
from, well, I say from

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yesterday's show, because he

joined us yesterday on stage as

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well, and a community member

here, and got to know Dan a

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little bit.
I'll tell you a
little bit

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more about that later in the
show.

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First, before we
dig into all
the things here today, because

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yes, I've already
told you
about this idea of discussing

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our hard lessons that
we've
learned over time.

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Also, we're going to get into
wins
from the week toward the

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end of the show, all of that.
Oh, we
have our spotlight

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podcast to play today, but all
first we're
going to skip the

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line and go right to one
particular win and
one

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particular person on stage.
Ralph, good morning to you.

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Good
morning, everybody.
Share that win.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: So last night

at 8:06pm we ushered in Carson

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Christopher Eastep into the

world.

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So I am a very proud grandpa.
This morning it was a


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C-section, so that always
presents a little bit of


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scariness or scary times.
But what I'm told is everybody

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is
great.
We did a little face time with

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the little guy last night.

He has got a full head of black

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hair, which is hilarious,

because my daughter-in-law, nor

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my son, have dark hair, but he's

got dark hair.

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But I just want to thank
everybody for all the
kind

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thoughts, and which is because
this has been a moment
in my,

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in my world I never expected,
man.

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And the emotions
that I've
been on the last 24 hours have

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been absolutely
amazing, and I
just hope I'm a good grandpa to

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my little fella.

I'm Marc Ronick: sure you will

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be.
DR: What will be your grandpa


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name?
Ralph Estep Jr.: Pop up, DR: pop

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up, and.. and what's
your
wife's?

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Ralph Estep Jr.: My, you know

what, that the jury's still out

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on that.
So, she.. she had a
long list.

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I didn't realize there was such
a list of these
names, but I

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had no concept of this, but mine
was easy, because
my I shared

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on the show before, my closest
human relationship
was my pop

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up, and that's what I hope to be
for Mike, for my
grandson

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Carson.
Marc Ronick: That's so cool, and

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yeah, what if I know this has
been very emotional, and you


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said 24 hours, I'm thinking
about her, Ralph, it's more like

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48 hours.
Yeah, she Ralph Estep Jr.:

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checked into
the hospital
Tuesday night at 10pm so yeah,

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and she had some
pretty, you
know, some issues with the

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pregnancy, so they
wanted to
make sure she was in a good

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place, and the doctors did

fantastic care.

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When they finally.. it was
interesting, I
was playing

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softball last night when they
made the decision at
8o'clock

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and two teams of grown church
league softball men hit
the

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knees and all prayed for her,
and about 15 minutes later
the

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baby was born, so they decide
the hospital it's time to
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They don't mess around, they
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So, again, I just want
to say,
thank you to everybody for your

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support, your prayers,
and all
that have been felt by me, and I

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truly appreciate Marc Ronick:
it.

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You are
welcome, and yeah,
we're all very excited for you,

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Ralph.

Thank you for sharing the news

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with us, much appreciated.
Okay,
so what I want to do now

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is, yeah, you know what, it's
time
for today's podcasting

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morning show Spotlight, where we
feature
a podcaster from our

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community and give you a quick
taste of
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So today's spotlight comes from
Zach Dwak, host of
Dwac in De

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Morning.
Zach didn't give us a long

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description for
this one, in
fact his note simply said the ad

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should speak
for itself, and
by the way, side note, please

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don't do that, you
give me
extra work, but that's okay,

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because we'll just go
ahead
then for this one and do exactly

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that, so as you.
Listen,
pay attention to how

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quickly this promo establishes
the
show's personality.

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I think you're going to hear the
tone,
the comedy style, the

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rhythm, and the kind of listener
that
Zach is trying to

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attract.
So, with that, here is D Wack in

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De
Morning.
Spotlight Audio: Hey everybody,

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I'm Zach Dwak, and welcome to
Do Wack in the Morning, the

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podcast
that hits your ears
like coffee with a restraining

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order.
Every
show we're serving up

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stupid news, weird history,
celebrity
birthdays,

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ridiculous holidays, savage
horoscopes - I call
horrible

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scopes - and whatever nonsense
crawled out of the
internet

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wearing pants.
This part morning radio, part

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comedy
show.
R and why am I laughing at this

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before breakfast?
So,
whether you're driving to

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work, pretending to work, hiding
from
your family, or just need

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something funny to make your day

a little less normal, D Whack

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in the morning is here for you.
New
shows drop Monday and

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Friday, so follow, subscribe,
tell a
friend, unless your

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friend has no sense of humor
parole,
Officer Dwac in the

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morning, comedy, chaos, and
caffeine for
your ears.

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You can find it now at Zach
dwak.com that's the a c
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w a c k.com Apple Spotify, Pod
Bean Pod Chaser, Amazon
using

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iHeart, YouTube, and all that
jazz.

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Thank you for
checking it out.
Marc Ronick: That was Dwight in

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De Morning from Zach Dwack.
What stood out to me in this

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promo,
it's exactly it.
We know what lane it's in,

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right?
It's fast,
it's chaotic, it's

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got some humor, and very clearly
built
around a radio morning

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show energy.
That's what got my
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as a fan of morning radio.
Zach describes it as
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does well.
He describes it, he didn't to

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us, but I
looked into it.
He describes this show as

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comedy, chaos, and
caffeine,
as you heard, for ears with

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stupid news, weird
histories,
celebrity birthdays, ridiculous

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holidays, and what he
calls
horrible scopes, so from a

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podcasting standpoint, I think

there's a takeaway here.

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A good promo, it doesn't have to

explain every detail of the

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show, right?
It needs to give
people a feel

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for the experience.
This one does that,
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pretty quickly.
You get the energy and the

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attitude you
get that sense of
humor and you know pretty fast

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whether this is
going to be
your kind of show, so if it is

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your kind of show,
go check
him out, Dwack in the mornings

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at Zach dwak.com and if

anybody else had any thoughts

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they wanted to chime in, they

are more than welcome to, but

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overall I think Zach, well done.



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You're clearly a radio pro
that's gone podcasting, at least

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that's my assumption.
And you did a great job.

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So, yeah, thank
you for that
submission.

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And if you'd like your podcast
featured
on the Podcasting

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Morning Show, submit a 62nd clip
about your
show to Podcasting

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Morning show.com/spotlight I'm
not going
to give you the

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whole spiel, because I think you
get a good
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So, thank you again to Zach.
And looking forward to doing

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these
more on Fridays.
Jingle: Now, let's go. wrong


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button again.
Now my screen froze up.

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My friend, oh man,
left it
off.

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It reset.
Let it spin.

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I pushed the wrong button

again.

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Marc Ronick: Oh well, yeah.

There's.. there are up to, I

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think, eight pages on the

Rodecaster Pro, and you know, a

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lot of my pages are filled, so

when I have a spotlight clip to

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play, I gotta go find it on

another page and scroll around,

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and so yeah, I just hit the

wrong scroll, I got to the wrong

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page, and then hit the wrong

button.

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There you go.
All right, and what I think I

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meant to hit
was, all right,
now we can officially do this.

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So look,
every podcaster has a
story, right?

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A time maybe that the
guest
didn't show up, or maybe just

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completely sucked.
A time
the audio or the video

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failed.
A time you launch something and

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maybe just got crickets, right?
Maybe you've said yes too much,

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and it's got you into a corner
that you felt like you couldn't

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get out of, or something maybe
felt off to you, but you ignored

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your gut anyway.
We talked a little bit about

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that, I think,
yesterday.
As far as following your

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intuition, sometimes, and

sometimes those moments teach us

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more than the courses, more than

the checklists, or the gear

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and the advice threads ever
could,
so today we're going to

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ask the room lots of different

questions, but the main question

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here, What's one podcasting

lesson you had to learn the hard

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way, and by the way, Good

morning to Sid, who I think is

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over.
The West Coast joining us


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today, Sid, the resident
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Think he travels more than all
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Sid Meadows: For now, it'll be a

homebody really soon.

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But good morning, everybody.
And yes, I
am in.

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We're in McMinnville, Oregon.
We're doing wine tours


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starting today.
Marc Ronick: Very nice.

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I love
it.
I'm going to be there in a

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couple weeks when I do the

volunteering at the summer camp,

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one of two that I'll be doing

this summer for a week.

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I'm really looking forward to
that.

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Sid Meadows: Is it here in

Oregon?

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Yeah, Portland.
Is it in this?

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Oh, Portland.
Okay, yeah,
that's where we

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flew into.
Marc Ronick: Yep.

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DR: See, I don't associate

Oregon with wine.

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Marc Ronick: No, me neither.
Sid Meadows: So, the Willamette,

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if I'm saying it right, the
Willamette Valley, and there are

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three towns, and it's wine
country, yeah, mostly Pinot


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Noir, you drink wine, it's a
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that, a few whites, but we did
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yesterday, but we've never been
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thing for new adventure, there
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with us, so there's eight of us,
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part of the country.
We've never been here, so it's

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fun, Marc Ronick: awesome.
Enjoy
that, Sid.

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And thank you for being here
bright and early this
morning.

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I know it's a lot earlier there
than it is here,
and I see a

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lot of people want to chime in,
so I will share
mine somewhere

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in between everyone else's
shares.

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Here, I
was going to go first,
but since a lot of people have

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chimed in,
let's do it.
So, let's go to BC.

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You know what, I'm gonna go to

you first.

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Let's go alphabetically this
morning.

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And
a quick hello to Jonathan
Howard, who's just joined us on

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stage as well.
BC, go for it.

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What's a hard lesson you learned

the hard way?

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BC Babbles: Thank you.
And good
morning.

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I learned the hard way that if
your recording sessions
tend

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to be in person and longer than
20 minutes, do not use
GoPros

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as the video recording, or maybe
just don't use GoPros
at all,

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because they run hot and they
ruined my SD cards, so no
more

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shall I use a GoPro for visual
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Marc Ronick: So, and do you have

those?

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Did they run hot?
Were they plugged in or just

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using a
battery?
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they had their own little cases
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Despite all that, they ran hot
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some of them have like a little
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down itself just to try to save
itself, but nope, mine didn't do

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that.
They just burned.

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Marc Ronick: Wow.
So, and you
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in-person, BC Babbles: yeah,
because I used
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entirely in person, and so I
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and my guest shot, and yeah, I
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webcams after that.
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ask, what was the.. what's the
device of choice if you're not


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using the GoPros?
Anything in particular?

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Do you BC Babbles: remember the
brand I
got as a great E Meads

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4k camera, which is the one I'm
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Love it, low concert energy,
it's great, Marc Ronick:

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awesome.
All right,
yeah, that gear

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stuff, I'm sure it will be a
common theme here
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lessons learned.
I think that, yeah, it's easy to

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podcasting space, to say the
least.

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Dr. I saw you throw up
your
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Did you want to share?
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in my producing career, after I
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sweetening the sound and
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I loaded it up on
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Okay, on to the next
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And what I should have done is I

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the Lipson player before I hit

publish, because that's really

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it, was a quick fix, and it took

the, my brand new client to

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say, "Oh God, this sounds
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I'm like, "Oh my god, that's not
what Marc Ronick: you want to

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hear DR: from a client exactly,
especially your very first one.

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Yeah, you're kind of.. you're so

nervous anyway.

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Marc Ronick: Absolutely.
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Thank you for sharing that one.
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for sharing as well.
Yeah, let me share mine now.

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So I'm in the
middle of
learning a hard lesson.

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For the past five years,
I've
been all in on social media, and

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I've put a lot of
blood,
sweat, and tiers into learning

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how it works, how to
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awareness, and my ultimately my
business, and I've learned a

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lot of really valuable lessons
about
marketing, reaching my

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audience and engagement, but the
hard
lesson I'm learning this

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year is that I've allowed social
media
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piece of the puzzle than it
should have
been, and when I

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say the puzzle, what I really
mean is my
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I think I let social media
consume me, I depended on
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to be my path to success for way
too long.

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Long, and it's,
it's taken a
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obsessed with my
content going
viral, and honestly, I don't

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really mean
viral.
I think these days just getting

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some solid engagement
would be
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lines, it also created
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consumer of social media, and

I usually try not to share,

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quote unquote, my stuff publicly

when I'm still in the middle

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of the mess.
I don't think that
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serves anybody well, but in this
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part of my process toward
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it helps me build more awareness
around the problem,
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it publicly helps hold me
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saying I'm walking
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believe
it's an important tool
in the podcasting game, but I am

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saying
I'm working on a
strategy to break the cycle and

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reset my
relationship with it
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it to my
advantage.
So, yeah, like I said, I don't

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love doing this
publicly when
I feel like I'm still in the

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middle of it.
I
just feel like that doesn't

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serve people well.
I'd rather
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other side of it, so that I can
really give
you all my

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lessons, but like I said
earlier, I think having
this

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awareness and accountability is
really going
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in this process and figure out
really how I want
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moving forward.
All right, I see a lot of people

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want to chime in, and Janae
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to you first.
Janae, good morning, my friend.

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What did you
want to add?
Did you have something you want

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to add to
what I'm sharing?
Junaid: Good morning.

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Good
morning.
Happy Friday, Ralph.

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Congratulations on your Branson
Carson.

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Marc Ronick: Yeah, Junaid: Mark.
Yes, so I wanted
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what you're sharing, and this is
the perfect
thing that people

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are looking for, actually on
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If you think about it, they want
to see the struggle, they want


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to feel like you are the same
person as them, or they can


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relate to you on a level in that
struggle bus, right.

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So this is
exactly it, because
if you think about it, where did

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Pat Flynn
share about him
getting fired from his

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architecture job, he
shared on
a blog, he shared on his

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podcast.
Yep, later on,
right.

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Of course, he was over it, but
when you're actually
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through the thing, I mean, we
were all invested with Ralph


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past two days, all the things
that he's going through with


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his, with his darling,
everything.

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People get invested
because
they're like, oh my god, this

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person is human, just like
me.
I want to know what happened.

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You're leaving an open
hook
for them, Janet.

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Out, Marc Ronick: yeah.
Thank you,
Junaid.

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Yeah, it's a really good point,
and Jessica's agreeing
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you in her own way here in the
chat.

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She says sharing
publicly
takes the power away and really

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helps the community
support
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I do agree with a lot of that.
I really do.


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You've heard me say similar
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I think it can be more

impactful when you've gone

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through it, as opposed to

sharing while you're in it.

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I'm not saying that one is
always
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other, but I'm just saying that
sometimes when you're in it,

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you don't have your clarity yet,
you
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really provide solutions yet,
but like
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yes, there are times where maybe
the
solution isn't what

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connects you with your audience,
instead it's
it's the

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struggle, so I get that too, and
I appreciate what
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saying, and Jessica, what you're
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I feel like I saw a few other
people maybe wanting to chime in

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on what I was sharing, but so
I just want to pause for a

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second,
make sure, Ralph Estep
Jr.: Mark, I just
wanted to

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jump in there and say something.
So one of the things
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deal with a lot of people who
have addictions, I know it


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sounds funny, as an accountant,
I deal with people with


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addictions, but I do, I do a lot
of people with money addictions,

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gambling addictions, all kinds
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thing I will tell you,
Mark, is the first part of the

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struggle
is to name it.
Yeah, and you've, you've named

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it, and you're not
alone in
this, dude.

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This is a, this is what I feel
is an
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Marc Ronick: Yeah, Ralph Estep
Jr.: this social
media is an

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epidemic thing, and there are so
many people that
their

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emotions ride on this roller
coaster.

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Did anybody like
my post?
Did anybody see my post?

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And it just takes away the

journey, and it takes away your

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humanity, dude.
So, I respect
you a ton.

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It's funny, I was on a call
yesterday, and there was
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bunch of people talking about
how they've completely given up

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on social media, and they've
never felt better in their


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lives.
I'm not telling you to do that,

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because I use social media
as
well, but, dude, it does like

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suck you in.
Oh, yeah, when you,
when

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you're ready to pivot.
I do have a story, though, about

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something I learned the hard
way.

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So, just let me know when

you're ready for me to share

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that.
Marc Ronick: Yeah.

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Thank you,
Rob.
Off, yeah, and it's, you know, I

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think the way that the
quote
unquote addiction developed for

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me was with the
obsession of,
I'll just phrase it as winning

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social media,
right, to become
one of those people that gets

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lots of
followers, lots of
engagement, etc. but I think for

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me, my
addiction is about it
started as studying what's

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working on
social media, and I
think I became obsessed with

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that whole
process of
studying, right, because I

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would, I would watch
and see,
like, what is it about this

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video that so many people
are
attracted to, commenting all

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over the place, and then I

start, you know, I watch the

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next one, and watch the next

one, and sometimes I'll watch

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ones that are bad, and I'll

think, you know, okay, what

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didn't work with this one,

right?

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So it was good intentions, but I
think then it
started feeding

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the dopamine hits, it was giving
me a lot of
dopamine, and as

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somebody with ADHD, we struggle
with dopamine
manufacturing in

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these heads of ours, so we get
those quick
fixes from social

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media.
So it was a snowball effect that

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really took its toll, and I
have been slowly working toward

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breaking up with it, and I
don't.

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My intention is not to go

away, like I said earlier, not

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to just quit it altogether.
My
intention is to just get

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off of it more, be on it less,
right?


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But, like, I don't need to be
the one posting my content


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anymore, and that's the first
step to, I think, really


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breaking the addiction, because
I got to open the app to post


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it, and I know there are
scheduling apps that I could use

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instead.
I just don't want..

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I'm looking to break up with it
and
find maybe somebody else

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to do it for me, so I don't even
want
to bother with scheduling

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apps.
I just want to be off the app as

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much as possible and just
check it every so often, right?

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See
what's going on in this
crazy world.

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So, anyway, okay, that's

enough about me.

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Thank you for listening, and
thank you for the


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encouragement.
Sid, did you want to respond to

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that, because I
saw you flash
your emoji there, and I wanted

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to just make sure.

Did you want to respond to that,

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or are you just saying you have
something to share of your own?

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Sid Meadows: Yeah.
No, I mean, I
kind of do want

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to respond to it.
Okay, as you were talking,
the

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thing that came to my mind was
what we're doing when I'm


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saying we, because we're all
doing it.

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What we're doing when
we're
posting on social media is,

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we're seeking validation.
Marc Ronick: Oh, yeah, Sid

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Meadows: we're seeking

validation that what we're doing

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is good, that what we're doing

has an impact, that people like

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what we're doing, so we can do

more of it.

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And I think that's the wrong
place to seek
validation, but

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it's there, right?
And we all have it, and


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everybody's using it, and you
see people talking about it, and

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I think we have to find
validation that we're doing good

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work, and that we're good
people, and that we have to find

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it other places, not in social
media, but everybody does it,


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Mark, everybody's seeking
validation that this is good,


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and that I'm doing a good job,
right, and but I think that


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starts internally rather than
externally, Marc Ronick: I mean,

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that that's
it, Sid, you just
said it, you beat me to it,

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think the problem
is, is that
a lot of us are seeking out

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external validation,
and I
have this has been a journey

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that I've been on for a
couple
years now, really recognizing

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how much I depend on
that, and
the truth of the matter is,

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we've got to all come
to the
point where our own validation

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is enough, that's
what I'm
working on, is being happy with

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my own decisions, and
being
okay if sometimes they may not

426
00:23:27,378 --> 00:23:30,650
be the best decisions, but

ultimately it's got to come from

427
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:32,810
within.
I agree with you, Sid,
and

428
00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:36,146
it's a hard struggle.
That's it's a hard thing to just

429
00:23:36,146 --> 00:23:39,430
be
able to accept yourself and
not need everyone else to tell

430
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:42,604
you,
"Hey, great job, here's a
pat on the back for you.

431
00:23:42,604 --> 00:23:44,615
Hey, great
content you made,
right?

432
00:23:44,615 --> 00:23:47,108
Yes, sometimes we.. it's
important
for us to know that

433
00:23:47,108 --> 00:23:50,242
it's our contents hitting with
our
audience, right?

434
00:23:50,242 --> 00:23:52,240
But yeah, I'll just leave it
right there.

435
00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:55,660
Sid Meadows: But Mark, I think

that when you stop seeking it is

436
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,142
when it really comes.
Marc Ronick: Oh yeah, Sid

437
00:23:58,142 --> 00:23:59,997
Meadows: right?
Like when
you quit pushing so

438
00:23:59,997 --> 00:24:03,054
hard for the validation, it
actually comes,
and you know,

439
00:24:03,054 --> 00:24:07,360
I shared, I guess, yesterday in
our moderator chat,
I got a

440
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,750
random message from some lady
that I do not know.

441
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,426
Marc Ronick: Yeah, Sid Meadows:
and it was
actually, I mean,

442
00:24:12,426 --> 00:24:15,636
it got me emotional.
I'm like, holy cow,
this

443
00:24:15,636 --> 00:24:19,795
person's in my ecosystem, I'm
connected to her, I don't
know

444
00:24:19,795 --> 00:24:22,395
her, and she's had some really
nice things to say about
my

445
00:24:22,395 --> 00:24:24,398
content, how my content is
helping her, you know.

446
00:24:24,398 --> 00:24:28,200
I wasn't
seeking her, I
wasn't, I mean, I just showed

447
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,516
up.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, Sid Meadows:

448
00:24:29,516 --> 00:24:31,110
and that's what I
mean.
I think we quit seeking it is

449
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:33,851
when it really shows up.
And
I messaged her back and

450
00:24:33,851 --> 00:24:37,943
said this made my day.
Like, thank
you so much for

451
00:24:37,943 --> 00:24:41,496
sharing with me the impact that
my podcast has
had on you,

452
00:24:41,496 --> 00:24:43,970
and, and I really appreciate,
and I dropped a link
in there,

453
00:24:43,970 --> 00:24:46,618
and said, if I can ever help
you, here's the link
to my

454
00:24:46,618 --> 00:24:48,508
calendar, put some time on my
calendar, and I'll be
whatever

455
00:24:48,508 --> 00:24:51,502
I can do to help you.
For me, that's my way to get


456
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:53,986
back to her, right?
Just like thanking her for

457
00:24:53,986 --> 00:24:56,929
helping, for
you know,
engaging with my client, and for

458
00:24:56,929 --> 00:24:59,875
still getting
that message,
and so I don't know that she'll

459
00:24:59,875 --> 00:25:01,098
ever.
Put time
on my calendar, but

460
00:25:01,098 --> 00:25:03,707
to me that was me giving a gift
back to
her, because she gave

461
00:25:03,707 --> 00:25:07,607
me a really big gift yesterday
when
she sent me that message,

462
00:25:07,607 --> 00:25:10,620
you know, unsolicited.
So, yeah, I
think when we

463
00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:12,960
quit, quit seeking it, it starts
to show up more.

464
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Marc Ronick: Thank you, Sid.

Yeah, great example, and great

465
00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:18,396
point.
It's when we stop
looking,

466
00:25:18,396 --> 00:25:21,980
yeah, that's where all of a
sudden it starts arriving,
and

467
00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:24,390
it feels great.
I'm with you there, Gabe.

468
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:28,802
I see you sharing
in the chat.
You are welcome to share on

469
00:25:28,802 --> 00:25:31,420
stage as well.
I gave
you an invitation, so

470
00:25:31,420 --> 00:25:34,374
I'll give you a minute to see if
you want
to come up on stage

471
00:25:34,374 --> 00:25:37,272
and share, and if not, then I'll
probably
just read it.

472
00:25:37,272 --> 00:25:40,477
But yeah, and I also see in the
chat here,
Jessica says ADHD

473
00:25:40,477 --> 00:25:42,338
is a different wiring of the
brain.

474
00:25:42,338 --> 00:25:45,117
She's
responding to what I was
talking about with the low

475
00:25:45,117 --> 00:25:46,851
dopamine.
She
says we can reframe

476
00:25:46,851 --> 00:25:51,910
obsession with deep, deep focus
and
redirect when we become

477
00:25:52,060 --> 00:25:52,776
self-aware.
Agreed.

478
00:25:52,776 --> 00:25:53,491
Yes.
Okay.


479
00:25:53,499 --> 00:25:58,450
So, with that, I'm going to go
to, let's see, it's 830 So,


480
00:25:58,458 --> 00:26:02,632
here's what we'll do, Ralph.
I'm going to come to you to

481
00:26:02,632 --> 00:26:05,904
share
about Money Monday
coming up next week, and then

482
00:26:05,904 --> 00:26:07,830
please share
your hard lesson
learned.

483
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,630
Ralph Estep Jr.: Absolutely, so
this Money Monday on the show,

484
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:13,789
we're tackling a hidden problem
costing creators real money,

485
00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:17,320
and that is your software stack.
I
think too many creators are

486
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,990
paying for tools they forget

about, duplicate platforms they

487
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:22,450
don't need, and subscriptions

spread across accounts that they

488
00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:25,156
barely track.
The result of that
is profit

489
00:26:25,156 --> 00:26:27,718
leaks, money chaos, and the
feeling that you're
making

490
00:26:27,718 --> 00:26:30,139
decent money, but still somehow
feel broke all the time.


491
00:26:30,147 --> 00:26:33,445
So, on Monday, I'm going to
break down how to fix it with a

492
00:26:33,445 --> 00:26:36,205
simple system, how to audit
your subscriptions, clean up the

493
00:26:36,205 --> 00:26:39,625

bloat, set a software budget,
and start doing a 15 minute


494
00:26:39,633 --> 00:26:41,991
monthly money review.
So, this is about moving from

495
00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:45,355
creator
chaos to clarity, so
you can protect your margins.

496
00:26:45,355 --> 00:26:48,875
Marc Ronick: What was that, Dr?
DR: I said, 'Get out of my head,

497
00:26:48,875 --> 00:26:52,064

Ralph.
Ralph Estep Jr.: So, Dr. this is

498
00:26:52,064 --> 00:26:53,422

for you.
No, I'm just being funny.

499
00:26:53,422 --> 00:26:56,020
This is about moving from

crater chaos to clarity, so you

500
00:26:56,020 --> 00:26:58,600
can protect those money margins,

make smarter decisions, and

501
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,154
actually keep more of what you

earn.

502
00:27:00,154 --> 00:27:03,880
So, make sure you join us on
Monday for the Money Monday
of

503
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520
saving money on your software
stack.

504
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,710
Marc Ronick: Thank you, Ralph.

And by the way, does I have to

505
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,870
read this out loud?
Well,
actually, you know what,

506
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:14,020
Jonathan, what's going on with

your audio over there?

507
00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:15,863
Jonathan Howard: Couldn't figure

out why it was going in and

508
00:27:15,863 --> 00:27:17,995
out.
Turns out the dog had my ear pod

509
00:27:17,995 --> 00:27:21,235

in his mouth.
Marc Ronick: That'll do it,

510
00:27:21,865 --> 00:27:24,300
Jonathan Howard: that'll do it.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, you probably

511
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:27,783
almost lost it in your butter,
at least for a little while,


512
00:27:27,791 --> 00:27:31,483
until yeah, it's time to get rid
of that and other food that your

513
00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:34,225

dog had that this morning.
Wow, that would have been ugly.

514
00:27:34,255 --> 00:27:36,175
Jonathan Howard: Luckily,

luckily I caught it before it

515
00:27:36,175 --> 00:27:38,995
went that Marc Ronick: far.
Yeah, good,
good, good to have

516
00:27:38,995 --> 00:27:40,260
you here, Jonathan.
All right, Ralph.

517
00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:42,430
So,
do you want to share a
hard lesson learned?

518
00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:44,203
Ralph Estep Jr.: Absolutely.
So,
the thing I learned, and

519
00:27:44,203 --> 00:27:47,800
this was a tough one, I started
working with Pod Match, and

520
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,500
there was a time when I just

took on as many interviews as I

521
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:52,549
could get.
Well, I got to the
point where

522
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:55,492
I wasn't really vetting the
people shows I was
going on,

523
00:27:55,492 --> 00:27:57,214
and I wasn't looking at their
stuff.

524
00:27:57,214 --> 00:27:59,827
So, this one,
this one lady,
I'll never forget this dude, I

525
00:27:59,827 --> 00:28:02,835
showed up for the,
for the
video meeting, or whatever you

526
00:28:02,835 --> 00:28:06,285
want to call it,
Zoom, and
she's like in a public park or

527
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:08,413
something, and the audio
was
horrible.

528
00:28:08,413 --> 00:28:12,065
I mean, there's birds chirping,
people
screaming, and I was

529
00:28:12,065 --> 00:28:14,303
like, I actually said to her at
the
beginning of this

530
00:28:14,303 --> 00:28:16,715
interview, I said, "You know
what, I'm not
sure this is a

531
00:28:16,715 --> 00:28:19,309
good fit for me, because I'm
bringing
professionalism to

532
00:28:19,309 --> 00:28:22,882
this, and if the host can't even
bring it, I
was like, so

533
00:28:22,882 --> 00:28:25,738
lesson learned for me before I
go on to anybody's
show.

534
00:28:25,738 --> 00:28:28,619
Now I watch their show, I listen
to their show, I do a


535
00:28:28,627 --> 00:28:31,075
background check on them.
I know it sounds like I'm being

536
00:28:31,075 --> 00:28:34,040
legalistic here, but you've got
to do that, and that was a


537
00:28:34,048 --> 00:28:37,160
lesson for me, because this
person, as a host, did not have

538
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,319
their stuff together, and my
brand would suffer if I allowed

539
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:44,512
myself to be on that show, so
that was my, that was my hard


540
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,118
lesson learned.
Mark, Marc Ronick: yeah, whether

541
00:28:47,118 --> 00:28:50,797
it's
pod match or however
you're finding your guests, I

542
00:28:50,797 --> 00:28:53,919
think it
is important, or if
you're going to be a guest,

543
00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:57,043
either way, I
think it's
important to do a little bit of

544
00:28:57,043 --> 00:29:01,024
research around
that person
and that show, because, yeah, I

545
00:29:01,024 --> 00:29:04,763
mean, yours was
isn't really
in the big picture the worst

546
00:29:04,763 --> 00:29:09,433
I've heard as far as
bringing
on guests or being a guest and

547
00:29:09,433 --> 00:29:12,537
being in an unusual
situation,
there are a lot of horror

548
00:29:12,537 --> 00:29:16,176
stories out there, and
usually
that comes down to not doing a

549
00:29:16,176 --> 00:29:18,988
little bit of your
homework
first, so yeah, and BC, did you

550
00:29:18,988 --> 00:29:21,610
want to chime in, BC, I
think
you are unmuted if you're

551
00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:24,490
chatting.
Oh, he was coughing,
he's

552
00:29:24,490 --> 00:29:27,502
choking on something.
Sorry, I couldn't see you


553
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:31,054
because my, my screen was, have
you, has you really small on


554
00:29:31,062 --> 00:29:32,996
screen?
So I didn't see Dan: that.

555
00:29:32,996 --> 00:29:35,785
What was it,
Jonathan's earbud
that you were choking on?

556
00:29:36,145 --> 00:29:37,200
BC Babbles: Yeah, the other one.



557
00:29:37,208 --> 00:29:39,728
I'm Marc Ronick: sorry.
Back, BC Babbles: yes, yeah.

558
00:29:39,728 --> 00:29:42,202
So I'm
just gonna say that
brings us back to when I

559
00:29:42,202 --> 00:29:45,324
mentioned my that
one guest I
had where we had two hours of

560
00:29:45,324 --> 00:29:48,220
session reserved and
they were
over an hour late.

561
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,325
Podcast etiquette, people, it's
a real, real thing.

562
00:29:51,325 --> 00:29:54,223
If you don't know what that is,
look it up,
there's there's a

563
00:29:54,223 --> 00:29:56,278
give and take to Marc Ronick:
it.

564
00:29:56,278 --> 00:29:57,505
Absolutely, I'm
with you
there.

565
00:29:57,505 --> 00:29:59,496
BC, thank you, and sorry for
coming to you.


566
00:29:59,504 --> 00:30:02,990
Right, when you're in the middle
of a choke, yeah.

567
00:30:02,990 --> 00:30:08,160
Does.. let's
see.
I know Sid wants to share.

568
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:09,780
I think Dr. wants to share as

well.

569
00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:13,098
We have a little bit of time
before we jump into wins
from

570
00:30:13,098 --> 00:30:15,582
the week, so let's go to you,
Sid.

571
00:30:15,582 --> 00:30:17,910
What's a hard lesson
you
learned in podcasting?

572
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:20,746
Sid Meadows: There are two that
stick out to me.

573
00:30:20,746 --> 00:30:23,162
One of them is about my
entrepreneur journey.


574
00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:27,698
When I started in 2017 I learned
the hard way that when people


575
00:30:27,706 --> 00:30:32,192
ghost you or say no to you, it's
really not about you, it's about

576
00:30:32,192 --> 00:30:35,948

them and their fear of what
your service or what your

577
00:30:35,948 --> 00:30:37,820
product
might uncover in their
business.

578
00:30:38,030 --> 00:30:40,390
And it was a really hard lesson
for me to learn, because I

579
00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:42,340
always would think it was about
me, and what do I need to do

580
00:30:42,460 --> 00:30:44,097
differently, and how do I need

to show up differently?

581
00:30:44,097 --> 00:30:46,093
What should we do differently in
the
quote and the research,

582
00:30:46,093 --> 00:30:49,790
blah blah blah, that sticks with
me
on a daily, and that was

583
00:30:49,790 --> 00:30:53,488
almost 10 years ago now.
The podcasting
lesson that is

584
00:30:53,488 --> 00:30:57,800
in my brain every day is, you
can't do it all, you
can't do

585
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,884
it alone, you can't do it all,
and I learned that, you
know,

586
00:31:01,884 --> 00:31:05,532
when I almost quit podcasting
the first time, and
because I

587
00:31:05,532 --> 00:31:08,439
couldn't figure out how to edit,
and I couldn't do
this, and

588
00:31:08,439 --> 00:31:10,516
couldn't do that, and that's
when I realized, like, I


589
00:31:10,524 --> 00:31:13,308
cannot do this all, and if this
is something I want to take


590
00:31:13,316 --> 00:31:16,230
seriously and be really good at,
I have to surround myself with


591
00:31:16,238 --> 00:31:19,020
people that can help me, whether
it's a community like this,


592
00:31:19,028 --> 00:31:21,730
where I can learn, attending
conferences, where I can learn


593
00:31:21,738 --> 00:31:25,359
more, or hiring people and
investing in myself by hiring a

594
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,445
team.
Then I just need to lean into

595
00:31:28,445 --> 00:31:31,864
understanding that I cannot
do
it all to be the best podcaster

596
00:31:31,864 --> 00:31:33,880
I can be.
I have to
have the right

597
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,028
people around me.
Marc Ronick: Thank you for that,

598
00:31:37,028 --> 00:31:38,912

Sid.
And Sid, was that you're the

599
00:31:38,912 --> 00:31:42,010
first person you brought on
to
help you with your podcast,

600
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,820
whatever that was, you can tell
us who that was, as far as what

601
00:31:45,850 --> 00:31:49,270
they were doing for you.
But was
it a hard decision to

602
00:31:49,270 --> 00:31:53,506
make at first, because I know a
lot of
podcasters tend to shy

603
00:31:53,506 --> 00:31:56,550
away or feel like, no, I can't
bring in
anybody, for whatever

604
00:31:56,550 --> 00:31:58,800
their reasons are.
But was that a hard
process

605
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,392
for you to go through?
Sid Meadows: So her name is


606
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,806
Kayla, and she's still with me
today.

607
00:32:04,806 --> 00:32:09,144
She started editing my
podcast
at episode 35 and on Monday

608
00:32:09,144 --> 00:32:13,355
we'll post at 189 She's
been
with me for every one of them,

609
00:32:13,355 --> 00:32:15,490
and I've learned a lot
from
her.

610
00:32:15,490 --> 00:32:18,600
And you know, was it hard?
Yeah, it's hard, because
it's

611
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,595
a, you know, decent amount of
money that I have to put out,


612
00:32:21,603 --> 00:32:24,728
you know, every week, every
month to get the product done,


613
00:32:24,736 --> 00:32:28,442
but again, it was the decision
was not more, wasn't necessarily

614
00:32:28,442 --> 00:32:32,765

about the money, it was about
me, and did I want to really


615
00:32:32,773 --> 00:32:36,111
improve myself in this craft,
and did I want to continue with

616
00:32:36,111 --> 00:32:39,842
this, and if the answer to that
question was yes, I had to hire

617
00:32:39,842 --> 00:32:43,966
her, and it is by far the best
decision I've ever made in my


618
00:32:43,974 --> 00:32:47,160
podcasting journey was hiring
Kayla Wells, and I found her on

619
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,318
LinkedIn.
I didn't have this community, I

620
00:32:49,318 --> 00:32:53,036
didn't know that
podcast
editors really existed, and I

621
00:32:53,036 --> 00:32:57,517
just went into LinkedIn
and
typed in podcast editor, and she

622
00:32:57,517 --> 00:33:03,726
popped up, and she lives
about
20 minutes from me, and 150 some

623
00:33:03,726 --> 00:33:06,750
odd episodes.
I've
never met her in person,

624
00:33:07,530 --> 00:33:10,630
but I know all about her.
I know
her boys, her family, I

625
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:13,263
know what she does.
She has a
full-time job too,

626
00:33:13,263 --> 00:33:16,186
and you know, I just.. we just
have a great
relationship.

627
00:33:16,186 --> 00:33:19,400
And I would not do my podcast
without her at all.


628
00:33:19,408 --> 00:33:21,524
That's that is a non-negotiable
for me.

629
00:33:21,524 --> 00:33:24,872
The only way that I
would ever
hire another editor is if she

630
00:33:24,872 --> 00:33:28,213
gave it up, like I am
loyal to
her because of how she helped me

631
00:33:28,213 --> 00:33:31,946
and how she believed
in me and
how she showed me how to be a

632
00:33:31,946 --> 00:33:33,488
better podcaster.
So,
was it hard?

633
00:33:33,488 --> 00:33:36,111
Yeah, it was hard.
First thing you think about is


634
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:38,771
the money to have the money to
do this right.

635
00:33:38,771 --> 00:33:42,099
And then, but
when you really
start to think about that, when

636
00:33:42,099 --> 00:33:44,915
you hire
someone to do
something in your business, what

637
00:33:44,915 --> 00:33:48,773
does it free you
up to do, and
what does it free you up to

638
00:33:48,773 --> 00:33:51,318
focus on that's going
to move
your business forward?

639
00:33:51,373 --> 00:33:54,547
And I would, what, what takes

Kayla probably an hour to do

640
00:33:54,602 --> 00:33:56,591
would take me six hours to do,

right?

641
00:33:56,591 --> 00:33:58,684
Right, not my.. and I know my
strength.

642
00:33:58,684 --> 00:34:01,899
This is not my
strength, and
it never will be my strength.

643
00:34:01,899 --> 00:34:04,439
It's not anything I
want to
learn how to do.

644
00:34:04,439 --> 00:34:07,612
And so, yeah, it was the best
decision I
ever made, but it

645
00:34:07,612 --> 00:34:09,600
was a hard one to make, for
sure.

646
00:34:09,779 --> 00:34:11,243
Marc Ronick: Yeah, thanks for

sharing that, Sid.

647
00:34:11,243 --> 00:34:15,107
And also, I find sometimes
editing, as far
as hiring

648
00:34:15,107 --> 00:34:19,433
somebody, farming it out, it's
also hard to let go of
for a

649
00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:23,279
lot of podcasters, because we
have our own styles and our


650
00:34:23,286 --> 00:34:26,581
own preferences, and we fear
that this editor we're going to

651
00:34:26,581 --> 00:34:29,973
bring in isn't going to do it
as well as we do, or isn't going

652
00:34:29,973 --> 00:34:33,674
to
do it the same way as we
do, and so we're afraid to let

653
00:34:33,674 --> 00:34:37,067
go of
that control, and what I
always tell people is, most

654
00:34:37,067 --> 00:34:41,286
editors,
they want to do it
the way you want to do it.

655
00:34:41,286 --> 00:34:44,556
Sure, they have
their own
style and preferences, and they

656
00:34:44,556 --> 00:34:47,437
might suggest those to
you.
I think a good editor will do

657
00:34:47,437 --> 00:34:50,061
that too.
But ultimately, the
idea is to

658
00:34:50,061 --> 00:34:53,271
really work with that person as
a partner, share with
them

659
00:34:53,271 --> 00:34:57,574
what you like and what you don't
like ahead of time before
they

660
00:34:57,574 --> 00:35:00,218
start editing, and then you got
to all.

661
00:35:00,218 --> 00:35:03,167
So be a little
patient about
the process too, and I'm sharing

662
00:35:03,167 --> 00:35:05,129
this with you
from my own
personal experience.

663
00:35:05,849 --> 00:35:09,239
It was hard for me to let go

because I'm pretty damn proud of

664
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,979
the way I edit podcasts, and to
let go of that, it felt like I

665
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:17,609
would be taking a step

backwards, and you do sometimes

666
00:35:17,729 --> 00:35:21,139
for a minute, but the whole

point is you got to communicate,

667
00:35:21,229 --> 00:35:24,349
and you got to treat that person

like a partner, and they got

668
00:35:24,349 --> 00:35:26,795
to do the same for you.
And if
they're not listening

669
00:35:26,795 --> 00:35:28,854
to you, you've found the wrong
editor.


670
00:35:28,862 --> 00:35:32,443
So, by the way, do want to
remind you, if you are looking


671
00:35:32,451 --> 00:35:35,725
for somebody, go to Ironic
media.com or reach out to me,


672
00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:39,126
and we can talk about whether or
not it's a good fit for us.

673
00:35:39,126 --> 00:35:41,973
But
I would love to at least
have an opportunity to talk to

674
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,057
you about
producing your
podcast, and you never know, Dr.

675
00:35:45,057 --> 00:35:48,411
is on my team,
she might be
the one actually editing your

676
00:35:48,411 --> 00:35:50,967
podcast.
So, yeah,
check out Ironic

677
00:35:50,967 --> 00:35:55,409
media.com or email me at Mark at
Ironic
media.com and that's I

678
00:35:55,409 --> 00:36:02,027
R O N I C K media.com So,
anyway, yeah,
great, great

679
00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:05,657
example, Sid.
Thank you for that, and I'm

680
00:36:05,657 --> 00:36:08,502
gonna keep
it moving here.
Dan, you said you..

681
00:36:08,502 --> 00:36:11,703
I saw something in the
chat, I
think, from you that said you

682
00:36:11,703 --> 00:36:12,869
had a lesson you wanted
to
share.

683
00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:17,250
Dan: Yeah, so back in 2012 my

podcast partner, Jennifer, and I

684
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:19,404
started this thing called the

Hawaii Travel Podcast.

685
00:36:19,404 --> 00:36:24,308
It was a typical travel show
about travel
tips going to

686
00:36:24,308 --> 00:36:28,144
Hawaii, and this is a lesson I
wish I would have
figured this

687
00:36:28,144 --> 00:36:30,286
out.
I figured it out now, and I'll

688
00:36:30,286 --> 00:36:33,450
tell you about
it.
So, when we started, we looked

689
00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:35,450
at the competition, we

searched for Hawaii Travel

690
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:39,230
Podcast, we looked, and we saw

what everyone was doing, and we

691
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:42,070
thought, I mean, I love

competition, because competition

692
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,794
can show it can.
It's proof of
concept that,

693
00:36:44,794 --> 00:36:47,218
okay, there's a bunch of shows
are doing this.


694
00:36:47,226 --> 00:36:49,590
There's, they're probably doing
it because there's a demand.


695
00:36:49,598 --> 00:36:52,250
People like the topic, and the
other reason I like competition

696
00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:55,375
is because I looked at it and
went, okay, this is a road map.

697
00:36:55,375 --> 00:36:56,950

I know how to win this race

698
00:36:57,070 --> 00:36:58,675
because this is the competition.



699
00:36:58,683 --> 00:37:02,626
I can easily listen to what
everyone's doing, and I can just

700
00:37:02,626 --> 00:37:05,979

do it better, right.
We did it for two years.

701
00:37:05,979 --> 00:37:08,970
We never won the
race.
It was always middling.

702
00:37:09,450 --> 00:37:11,221
Jennifer had a baby.
My kidney
died.

703
00:37:11,221 --> 00:37:14,784
I had to get a new kidney, you
know, a kidney transplant.


704
00:37:14,792 --> 00:37:17,625
Stop doing it.
Fast forward to now, where it's

705
00:37:17,625 --> 00:37:22,154
on our roadmap
in 2026 later
in the year to relaunch the

706
00:37:22,154 --> 00:37:25,454
Hawaii Travel
Podcast, but now
when I looked at the

707
00:37:25,454 --> 00:37:28,998
competition, everyone's
still
doing the same thing, and I'm

708
00:37:28,998 --> 00:37:33,260
looking at it going, okay,

this is not the race that I want

709
00:37:33,260 --> 00:37:38,914
to win, I need to not be in this

race, I want to run an

710
00:37:38,914 --> 00:37:42,271
entirely different race that
nobody else
was running into

711
00:37:42,271 --> 00:37:45,380
that niche, and I think every
podcaster can do
this.

712
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:49,252
So, what did that mean?
Well, like I said back in 2012


713
00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:52,766
it was a very typical show.
Everyone's answering the same


714
00:37:52,774 --> 00:37:54,982
type of information, because
that's what it is.

715
00:37:54,982 --> 00:37:57,457
Just like you
answer the same
type of information when it

716
00:37:57,457 --> 00:38:00,168
comes to
podcasting, everyone
kind of has the same

717
00:38:00,168 --> 00:38:03,552
information, because
there are
common questions that you want

718
00:38:03,552 --> 00:38:08,086
to answer, so then it
dawned
on me, like, okay, well, How do

719
00:38:08,086 --> 00:38:11,804
I win this race?
Well,
the new show is going to

720
00:38:11,804 --> 00:38:16,212
be the same information, because
it's
common information, but

721
00:38:16,212 --> 00:38:19,610
instead of just doing what
everyone else
does, what if

722
00:38:19,610 --> 00:38:23,440
this new show took place in the
final 30 minutes of
an

723
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,320
imaginary flight as it descends
into a Hawaiian
airport, so

724
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,158
now the premise has changed.
We come on, do our
little

725
00:38:31,158 --> 00:38:32,926
spiel.
Welcome to the Hawaii Travel

726
00:38:32,926 --> 00:38:34,622
Podcast.
You know,
blah blah blah.

727
00:38:34,622 --> 00:38:37,589
All of a sudden, you know, and
we say, and today
we're going

728
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:41,402
to talk about, and all of a
sudden you hear a ding,
and

729
00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:45,945
the pilot announcement doing his
typical before we land, I
want

730
00:38:45,945 --> 00:38:50,201
to tell everyone that I want to
find the best tropical
drink

731
00:38:50,201 --> 00:38:54,775
in Maui when I get down on the
ground, because this light


732
00:38:54,783 --> 00:38:59,988
sucked, whatever, then it cuts
instantly to me and Jennifer


733
00:38:59,996 --> 00:39:04,560
sitting in airplane seats is not
going to be a video show, don't

734
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,460
have the budget, but it's going
to cut to me and Jennifer


735
00:39:07,468 --> 00:39:10,198
sitting in airplane seats with
ambient airplane noise, and


736
00:39:10,206 --> 00:39:13,779
we're just going to pretend
we're sitting there in an


737
00:39:13,787 --> 00:39:16,182
airline answering questions,
talking about our trip.

738
00:39:16,182 --> 00:39:19,118
When we
do interviews, we'll
get the guests to play along,

739
00:39:19,118 --> 00:39:22,328
and we'll
be like, hey, is
that Sue from Jermaine's Luau up

740
00:39:22,328 --> 00:39:27,454
in row 4b Go,
go grab her, see
if she can fit between us.

741
00:39:27,454 --> 00:39:30,498
Let's interview her
quick.
The entire thing will be take

742
00:39:30,498 --> 00:39:34,430
part on a plane, all right.

Bunch of other stuff, there's a

743
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:37,300
character, the pilot, all this

kind of stuff.

744
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:40,785
But the thing is, it's all about
differentiating,
right?

745
00:39:40,785 --> 00:39:45,536
It's if you can present the
information in a way that is


746
00:39:45,544 --> 00:39:50,545
like truly unique, then all of a
sudden when people are talking


747
00:39:50,553 --> 00:39:56,590
about your show, it's not just,
hey, this is the show where blah

748
00:39:56,590 --> 00:39:59,602

blah blah, like this is the
one about.

749
00:39:59,602 --> 00:40:03,190
Not to like copy friends,
but
it's that it's like their naming

750
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:06,150
convention when people

actually talk about that show.

751
00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:09,060
It's like, what would you rather

listen to when people start

752
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:11,904
talking about your show?
It
goose is the algorithm

753
00:40:11,904 --> 00:40:14,914
because there's interaction with
the
feed, that's kind of

754
00:40:14,914 --> 00:40:17,584
technical stuff that doesn't
really
matter, but it's a word

755
00:40:17,584 --> 00:40:20,333
of mouth accelerator.
You don't have to
do it like I

756
00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:22,536
just said, like completely
reformatting
everything, but

757
00:40:22,536 --> 00:40:26,088
when I look at podcast morning
show, there are
a billion

758
00:40:26,088 --> 00:40:29,034
shows about podcasting, and like
I said, we
all basically talk

759
00:40:29,034 --> 00:40:32,146
about the same things, because
there's
only so much you can

760
00:40:32,146 --> 00:40:35,628
talk about about podcasting,
about
traveling to Hawaii, but

761
00:40:35,628 --> 00:40:38,198
why is this show uniquely
different?


762
00:40:38,206 --> 00:40:42,202
Well, it's because it's the one
that has a chat room, it's the


763
00:40:42,210 --> 00:40:44,938
one that's live, it's the one
where it's a round table, it's


764
00:40:44,946 --> 00:40:49,062
the one where blah blah blah,
your show is supremely


765
00:40:49,070 --> 00:40:52,475
different, and it's different
because you're like the


766
00:40:52,483 --> 00:40:56,321
quarterback, and then you've got
this cast of people who all get

767
00:40:56,321 --> 00:41:00,068
to chime in, and it's so easy,
if people are in the chat room,

768
00:41:00,068 --> 00:41:03,468
you bring them up, and it turns
into this insanely awesome


769
00:41:03,476 --> 00:41:08,840
interactive thing that is 100%
different than any other show.


770
00:41:08,848 --> 00:41:11,980
So, when people look at the
competition, what do you, which

771
00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:15,528
one are you going to pick, the
one that's exactly the same as


772
00:41:15,536 --> 00:41:18,375
everything else, or the one that
you can actually get something


773
00:41:18,383 --> 00:41:20,205
different?
Like, it's all about the

774
00:41:20,205 --> 00:41:22,414
experience.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, Dan: one

775
00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:25,130
other lesson learned is
that
that works great if you're

776
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:29,450
starting a show from scratch,

but there's not anyone in this

777
00:41:29,630 --> 00:41:32,450
room right now listening to

this, and you can't just wake

778
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:36,003
up, and I mean, don't half ass

it if you're gonna do it.

779
00:41:36,003 --> 00:41:39,397
Come up with a really unique way
to
present your show, and you

780
00:41:39,397 --> 00:41:42,672
can just do it, like you don't
need
permission, you can just

781
00:41:42,672 --> 00:41:45,190
do it.
You can wake up, your listeners

782
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:48,220
can listen to one show, and
they can wake up the next day,

783
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:50,554
and
the show is all of a
sudden different, and it's

784
00:41:50,554 --> 00:41:53,218
totally fine
to do that,
because when you do this right,

785
00:41:53,218 --> 00:41:57,608
the show where you
are right
now should theoretically be the

786
00:41:57,608 --> 00:41:59,920
smallest
your show is ever
going to be.

787
00:42:00,580 --> 00:42:03,930
So people who like some people

might bail from your show,

788
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,840
that's totally fine, but you'd

be surprised, the majority

789
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,680
won't, because the core

information is the same, it's

790
00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:13,260
just the presentation style is

different.

791
00:42:13,950 --> 00:42:15,595
Marc Ronick: Yeah, wow.
Thank
you, Dan.

792
00:42:15,595 --> 00:42:18,768
I think that that's a really
great point, because


793
00:42:18,776 --> 00:42:21,927
sometimes, actually, maybe
always the differentiator with


794
00:42:21,935 --> 00:42:25,996
your podcast is the way that you
package and produce your show,


795
00:42:26,004 --> 00:42:30,440
so the idea is to really find a
way to make it unique, and like

796
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,765
you're saying, that most of us,
the information we have, yes, we

797
00:42:33,765 --> 00:42:37,238

have our own experiences to
share, which does make us unique

798
00:42:37,238 --> 00:42:41,092

in that way, but ultimately,
if we're giving advice, if we're

799
00:42:41,092 --> 00:42:45,230

giving direction and guidance,
it's going to be in a lot of


800
00:42:45,238 --> 00:42:47,815
cases very similar to where
you're going to hear it


801
00:42:47,823 --> 00:42:50,018
everywhere else.
So, finding a way, like you did,

802
00:42:50,018 --> 00:42:53,350
I love how
you did that.
Talk about theater of the mind,

803
00:42:53,350 --> 00:42:55,150
that is the
ultimate
definition.

804
00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:57,493
I think that it really does go a
long
way.

805
00:42:57,493 --> 00:42:59,248
So, thank you.
Dan: Oh, and thanks.

806
00:42:59,248 --> 00:43:02,454
And don't,
and don't pay
attention to like AI best

807
00:43:02,454 --> 00:43:05,816
practices, because
really,
when you just, no one's asking

808
00:43:05,816 --> 00:43:08,512
AI the right kind of
stuff,
it's just like, how do I do

809
00:43:08,512 --> 00:43:09,506
this?
Well, here's how you do
it,

810
00:43:09,506 --> 00:43:11,346
how do I do this, here's how you
do it.

811
00:43:11,346 --> 00:43:14,580
Yeah, if I ask, hey,
we want
to do a Hawaii travel show, how

812
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:16,200
do we do it?
Do what
everyone else is

813
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,097
doing.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, it's not

814
00:43:17,097 --> 00:43:18,960
going to tell you to do

something that creative.

815
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:21,685
Dan: Yeah, Marc Ronick: yeah.
Thank you,
Dan.

816
00:43:21,685 --> 00:43:23,904
Appreciate it.
Okay, I have time for one more,

817
00:43:23,904 --> 00:43:27,542
and really I
don't, but I want
to make sure I give everybody as

818
00:43:27,542 --> 00:43:31,841
many
opportunities as I can.
Does anyone else want to share a

819
00:43:31,841 --> 00:43:34,250
hard
lesson learned?
DR: I have one.

820
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,100
Marc Ronick: Go ahead.
DR: Yeah, okay.

821
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:40,018
So this is talk
about going on
a journey with someone.

822
00:43:40,018 --> 00:43:44,315
This is something that
I am
still struggling with, and it's

823
00:43:44,315 --> 00:43:46,430
again, I'm going to bring
up
my first client.

824
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:50,148
You know, when you have been
dying to get
a client, and you

825
00:43:50,148 --> 00:43:54,570
would practically pay someone
just to
say, I have a client,

826
00:43:54,570 --> 00:44:00,506
your boundaries, you compromise
your
boundaries, and again,

827
00:44:00,506 --> 00:44:05,520
this is something that I'm still

struggling with, with my first

828
00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:08,676
client.
She gave me a shot, and
I, you

829
00:44:08,676 --> 00:44:12,714
know, I made the most out of
that shot, and we're still


830
00:44:12,722 --> 00:44:16,710
together today, but I have
lowered the bar on on my


831
00:44:16,718 --> 00:44:20,687
boundaries, and I don't want to
say the phrase "let her get away

832
00:44:20,687 --> 00:44:24,548

with, but it's, it's my own
fault, so yeah, that's it's a


833
00:44:24,556 --> 00:44:26,930
lesson that I still need to
learn.

834
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:30,380
Marc Ronick: I think boundaries
is one that a lot of us need to

835
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:32,588
continue to learn.
I'm with you
there.

836
00:44:32,588 --> 00:44:36,434
Yeah, it's hard for me to say no
to people, especially if
it

837
00:44:36,434 --> 00:44:40,156
sounds like a cool opportunity.
Sometimes I'll just
jump on an

838
00:44:40,156 --> 00:44:43,240
opportunity before I really stop
and ask myself, does
this

839
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,490
align with me, you know, is this
something that's that fits


840
00:44:46,498 --> 00:44:50,488
into the grand scheme of all the
different things that I'm up to,

841
00:44:50,488 --> 00:44:53,965

and there it's like, if the
answer is no, then you got to


842
00:44:53,973 --> 00:44:58,822
learn to actually say no, DR:
right, and and with
subsequent

843
00:44:58,822 --> 00:45:01,216
clients I.
Do have those boundaries?

844
00:45:01,216 --> 00:45:06,054
I do put them
in, but it
doesn't translate to that first

845
00:45:06,054 --> 00:45:08,820
client that I have.

Yeah, so I need to figure that

846
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,835
out.
Marc Ronick: Thank you, Dr.


847
00:45:11,843 --> 00:45:16,968
Appreciate that.
All right, so I think this is a

848
00:45:16,968 --> 00:45:20,549
good place to,
yeah, let's do
it.

849
00:45:20,549 --> 00:45:24,344
One of these days I'm gonna
organize
my soundboard so that

850
00:45:24,344 --> 00:45:27,653
I can get through it more
smoothly, but
yeah, let's do

851
00:45:27,653 --> 00:45:29,999
it.
Wins from this past week, this

852
00:45:29,999 --> 00:45:33,727
is where we
share the things
that are going on in our worlds

853
00:45:33,727 --> 00:45:36,127
over this past
week that are
worth acknowledging,

854
00:45:36,127 --> 00:45:39,140
celebrating, etc.

It doesn't matter how big, how

855
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,346
small you think it is.
It
doesn't matter if you think

856
00:45:41,346 --> 00:45:45,195
the person who shared before you
has
the ultimate win, and you

857
00:45:45,195 --> 00:45:48,146
can't compare to theirs.
All of that's
off the table.

858
00:45:48,146 --> 00:45:51,865
All we care about is your win,
and if it's getting
up or

859
00:45:51,865 --> 00:45:54,871
getting up in the morning every
day, because it's been a
hard

860
00:45:54,871 --> 00:45:56,470
week, that's worth celebrating
too.

861
00:45:56,470 --> 00:46:00,474
So, bring it
this morning.
Let's start with our audience

862
00:46:00,474 --> 00:46:03,591
members who are up
here
already on stage, I'm going to

863
00:46:03,591 --> 00:46:05,600
start with you, Dan.
Do you
want to share, please?

864
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,010
If you don't mind, one win from
your
week.

865
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,955
Dan: He just wrapped up season

10 of Bandcamp.

866
00:46:11,955 --> 00:46:15,188
Season 11 starts june 9.
We are so pumped, we're


867
00:46:15,196 --> 00:46:19,666
getting major press.
I just did two promo swaps with

868
00:46:19,666 --> 00:46:22,955
two
insanely huge media
corporations are gonna like

869
00:46:22,955 --> 00:46:25,433
start with like
almost a
quarter of a million free

870
00:46:25,433 --> 00:46:27,971
impressions promoting us.

It's just awesome.

871
00:46:27,971 --> 00:46:30,464
It's good to be alive.
That's my win.

872
00:46:30,464 --> 00:46:32,360
I'm
still here.
Marc Ronick: Nice,


873
00:46:32,368 --> 00:46:34,152
congratulations, Dan.
That sounds awesome.

874
00:46:34,152 --> 00:46:38,605
Band camp,
that's B A N N E D
Camp.

875
00:46:38,605 --> 00:46:41,330
All right, let's go to Janae.
Janae,
do you want to share a

876
00:46:41,330 --> 00:46:43,641
win with Junaid: us?
Good morning.

877
00:46:43,641 --> 00:46:47,639
Yes,
win for me this week.
I'm in Arizona doing a podcast

878
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,140
studio
build for a client.
Marc Ronick: Nice.

879
00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:52,456
Junaid: He was a guest on my

show last year.

880
00:46:52,456 --> 00:46:55,614
I mean, he sent you when he saw
my stuff on
LinkedIn lately.

881
00:46:55,614 --> 00:46:57,485
He's like, Janae, we need to
talk.

882
00:46:57,485 --> 00:47:00,990
I've
been doing this podcast
for two years, I need to level

883
00:47:00,990 --> 00:47:04,959
up, so
super excited to be
helping him, and it's almost

884
00:47:04,959 --> 00:47:07,674
like, you know,
you sometimes
think the system doesn't work,

885
00:47:07,674 --> 00:47:09,960
but it kind of
did.
Thank you.

886
00:47:10,290 --> 00:47:11,965
Marc Ronick: Yeah,

congratulations, Janae.

887
00:47:11,965 --> 00:47:13,680
Awesome.
Please share pictures when


888
00:47:13,688 --> 00:47:16,644
you're ready to share pictures
in the Empowered Podcasting


889
00:47:16,652 --> 00:47:20,220
Facebook group.
We'd love to see what you're up

890
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:24,416
to in Arizona,
and Tim coming
to you, and as I'm asking

891
00:47:24,416 --> 00:47:27,504
everyone, let's just
pick one
win each, so that we can, as

892
00:47:27,504 --> 00:47:28,960
many of us as we can,
can
share.

893
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,290
So, go for it, Tim.
Good morning.

894
00:47:30,980 --> 00:47:35,420
Tim: Hey, good morning there.

So, my win this week is opened

895
00:47:35,450 --> 00:47:40,370
up my work laptop, and I found

that I got an award from our

896
00:47:40,610 --> 00:47:43,126
commissioners.
It's a big yearly
that I

897
00:47:43,126 --> 00:47:47,410
didn't even know I was up for.
And basically, the award is


898
00:47:47,418 --> 00:47:51,460
for our care team, which brings
in dogs to different offices, so

899
00:47:51,460 --> 00:47:55,147

that way people can pet them
and feel good and warm and

900
00:47:55,147 --> 00:47:57,460
fuzzy.

And all I did, I don't think I

901
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,980
deserved the award, but hey, you

know, if it comes with money,

902
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:02,756
great.
But all I did was do a


903
00:48:02,764 --> 00:48:05,680
financial wellness presentation
a couple of times after this


904
00:48:05,688 --> 00:48:08,680
group, and now they have
welcomed me into their stead,


905
00:48:08,688 --> 00:48:10,320
and I'm winning an award with
them.

906
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,363
Marc Ronick: Very cool.

Congratulations, Tim.

907
00:48:13,363 --> 00:48:16,790
Awesome.
All right, let's keep it going


908
00:48:16,798 --> 00:48:19,292
with Renee.
Renee, welcome back to the

909
00:48:19,292 --> 00:48:20,870
stage.
I feel like we
haven't talked

910
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:23,810
to you in a minute, so thanks
for being
here.

911
00:48:23,810 --> 00:48:27,467
Please share one win with Sid
Meadows: us.

912
00:48:27,467 --> 00:48:31,175
Okay, we
finalized our podcast
cover that you'll be seeing

913
00:48:31,175 --> 00:48:34,790
today in an
email when the
artist puts the final touches on

914
00:48:35,450 --> 00:48:36,426
Marc Ronick: it.
Nice.

915
00:48:36,426 --> 00:48:39,425
All
right, congratulations,
and Renee is saying that I'll

916
00:48:39,425 --> 00:48:42,928
see
this because Renee and her
business partner hired me to


917
00:48:42,936 --> 00:48:46,174
help them put on their podcasts
that they've been wanting to do

918
00:48:46,174 --> 00:48:49,280
for a while now, so yeah, good,
awesome, we've made some


919
00:48:49,288 --> 00:48:51,556
progress.
I love it, and I can't wait to

920
00:48:51,556 --> 00:48:52,939
see it.
Renee, please
send away and

921
00:48:52,939 --> 00:48:55,245
remember to send it to my work
email.

922
00:48:55,245 --> 00:48:59,019
She said
Renee sends me
emails, it goes, and I know why,

923
00:48:59,019 --> 00:49:01,714
because yeah,
it's a long
story, but they go to my

924
00:49:01,714 --> 00:49:04,200
personal emails, and she's
not
the only one, so yeah, I'm

925
00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:05,898
just..
I like to remind
everybody of

926
00:49:05,898 --> 00:49:07,680
that.
All right, with that, let's go

927
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,095
to the team,
since we do have
a few more minutes.

928
00:49:10,095 --> 00:49:13,504
I'm asking one win
each, so we
can all get through these and

929
00:49:13,504 --> 00:49:15,810
share with one another
and
celebrate with one another.

930
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:18,930
Ralph, I'm coming to you first.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Okay, so like I

931
00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:21,614

didn't have a big win already,
but I did have another big win


932
00:49:21,622 --> 00:49:23,780
this week.
I start off my fitness journey,

933
00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:27,380
my A 1c was 13,
so 13 is
really bad.

934
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,529
Marc Ronick: A 1c will you Ralph
Estep Jr.: tell A 1c is
like

935
00:49:30,529 --> 00:49:31,969
your sugar basically in your
body?

936
00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:33,771
Marc Ronick: Okay, yes.
Ralph Estep Jr.: And so my goal

937
00:49:33,771 --> 00:49:35,750
was to get it below that.
Well, I am happy to report that

938
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:39,935
with
my blood work this week,
I am no longer a diabetic, so I

939
00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:46,006
have
from 13 to below six, so
that was my win for the week,

940
00:49:46,006 --> 00:49:48,835
past my
Carson grandson.
Marc Ronick: Congratulations,


941
00:49:48,843 --> 00:49:51,166
Ralph, that is a huge win for
sure.

942
00:49:51,166 --> 00:49:54,610
And I know I don't like to

size the wins, but man, when you

943
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:57,760
can get rid of something like

diabetes, that is worth saying

944
00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:59,790
again.
So, congratulations to
you.

945
00:49:59,790 --> 00:50:05,575
Ralph, and I'm gonna go to UBC.
I was waiting for that yawn
to

946
00:50:05,575 --> 00:50:08,495
finish, Frank.
I already got you once, so I was

947
00:50:08,495 --> 00:50:10,230
gonna write
that one.
Yeah, go for it.

948
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:12,900
BC Babbles: So, win this week is

like a two new prospective

949
00:50:12,990 --> 00:50:14,868
clients.
One is for podcast
concept,

950
00:50:14,868 --> 00:50:18,999
the other one is for a November
car show they do here
in

951
00:50:18,999 --> 00:50:20,984
Charlotte.
So, getting in on those event

952
00:50:20,984 --> 00:50:23,380
circuits, fingers
crossed.
As a media correspondent, we'll

953
00:50:23,380 --> 00:50:26,291
see how
things go.
Marc Ronick: Congratulations,


954
00:50:26,299 --> 00:50:29,000
BC.
And now let's keep it going.

955
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,866
Always great to get new clients,

BC.

956
00:50:31,866 --> 00:50:34,490
Let's go to Dr. Dr. Please share
a win.

957
00:50:35,330 --> 00:50:40,250
DR: Okay, so last two weeks ago,

my husband's truck, the

958
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:43,780
transmission fell out, something

I don't know, but it's been in

959
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,670
the shop for two weeks, and my

win is that we have some

960
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,208
incredible friends.
My husband
has a friend who

961
00:50:52,208 --> 00:50:56,944
has an extra car, so as a result
of that, my
husband's been

962
00:50:56,944 --> 00:51:03,964
riding around in 1024 Lexus,
Marc Ronick: no. nice DR: till

963
00:51:03,964 --> 00:51:07,520
his truck gets fixed,
so it's
an appreciation of having good

964
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,968
friends.
Marc Ronick: Very cool.

965
00:51:09,968 --> 00:51:12,550
Enjoy
the Lexus for a little
while there.

966
00:51:12,550 --> 00:51:16,683
Dr. All right, all right.

I will share then.

967
00:51:16,683 --> 00:51:20,198
And now I have to figure it out,
because I
have to pick.

968
00:51:20,198 --> 00:51:23,648
I'll share my win that I teased
before we actually
started

969
00:51:23,648 --> 00:51:27,108
officially this morning.
I had a great call from with Dan

970
00:51:27,108 --> 00:51:29,525

Schultz, who's here with us on
stage.

971
00:51:29,525 --> 00:51:33,410
Dan emailed me after

yesterday's show, expressing

972
00:51:33,890 --> 00:51:38,450
both a lot of love for the show
and the urge to want to share

973
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,940
some feedback to help improve

the show, and we got to talking.

974
00:51:42,970 --> 00:51:46,090
I had to take my car in for

service yesterday, so I told

975
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:49,270
him, "Let's get on a call while
I'm driving and waiting for my

976
00:51:49,390 --> 00:51:51,954
car to get finished up.
And we
had, we probably talked

977
00:51:51,954 --> 00:51:55,498
for a good hour, hour and a
half, and
got to know Dan

978
00:51:55,498 --> 00:51:57,976
really well.
Got some great feedback from

979
00:51:57,976 --> 00:52:01,705
Dan,
and he's already shared
here this morning, all of the


980
00:52:01,713 --> 00:52:03,850
positive things he had to say
about it.

981
00:52:03,850 --> 00:52:06,600
He said those things
to me
yesterday, and I really

982
00:52:06,660 --> 00:52:09,570
appreciate those, and I

appreciate constructive

983
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:12,162
criticism too.
And he gave me
some things,

984
00:52:12,162 --> 00:52:14,282
which I don't mind sharing with
you guys.

985
00:52:14,282 --> 00:52:16,526
He was
encouraging us to..
I'm going to generalize here,

986
00:52:16,526 --> 00:52:20,334
but to add a
little more
structure to the to the show, as

987
00:52:20,334 --> 00:52:24,320
well as maybe give
me, put
myself a little bit more in the

988
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,308
spotlight, showcase
myself a
little bit more, my expertise a

989
00:52:27,308 --> 00:52:29,674
little bit more.
All
of those great

990
00:52:29,674 --> 00:52:33,089
suggestions, I'm going to work
on finding a
balance of based

991
00:52:33,089 --> 00:52:35,990
on what he suggested versus what
feels
right to me.

992
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:39,505
But they were really solid
suggestions and
very

993
00:52:39,505 --> 00:52:42,034
appreciated.
And welcome officially to Dan

994
00:52:42,034 --> 00:52:44,113
for being a
part of this
community.

995
00:52:44,113 --> 00:52:47,250
He's been listening for a while,
and
he's followed me for way

996
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:51,114
longer than this part of my
career I
found out, which is

997
00:52:51,114 --> 00:52:53,608
cool to hear.
But I am ultimately trying
to

998
00:52:53,608 --> 00:52:56,512
say thank you for being a part
of this community, Dan, and


999
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,931
we're looking forward to having
you be up here more on stage


1000
00:52:59,939 --> 00:53:04,110
with us as well, so with that,
gang, I think this is a great


1001
00:53:04,118 --> 00:53:06,654
place to wrap up.
Remind you that Money Monday

1002
00:53:06,654 --> 00:53:10,677
comes this
Monday, and we have
a full week of shows, including

1003
00:53:10,677 --> 00:53:14,560
some, at
least one guest.
We are continuing that trend of

1004
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,670
adding
guests to the show as
much as possible.

1005
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:20,960
So, come join us next
week
here at Podcasting Morning

1006
00:53:21,110 --> 00:53:25,940
show.com/join us, and if we've

been helpful to you in any way,

1007
00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:28,880
and you want to help support the

show, go to Podcasting Morning

1008
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:34,280
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Monday, make it a great weekend,

1009
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,420
everybody.
Take care.