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2026, and today it's our news
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Good morning again podcasting
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Thank you so much for being
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I am your host Mark Ronik.
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Jessica and Dan, who are here
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And I see we have a couple

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people watching on video as
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So good morning, everybody.
Yeah, it's our news and comment

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day, so we'll get into that in
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And with that, a special hello
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London.
No, he was not at the podcast

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show in London.
He was there on business and

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also shared some awesome
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and him and his daughter
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Very cool to see.
Welcome to you, Sid Meadows, and

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hello to Feel Better as well,
who we haven't really talked a

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lot to lately.
Good to have you here.

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I'm glad that the new time slot
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for you.
So hopefully we hear more from

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you feel better today.
And with that, let's dive into

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today's news.
And where I like to start is to

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discuss a little statistics with
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A helpful number to understand
in podcasting, well really to

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understand about the amount of
podcast being created is the

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total number of active podcasts.
These are podcasts that are

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still being updated, therefore
actively marketing themselves.

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If you're making podcast
episodes, you might consider

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this number to be your quote UN
quote competition rather than

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the big overall number of almost
5 million podcasts that are

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indexed out there in the podcast
world.

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So with that, the total number
of podcasts updated in this past

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week is 193,480, which is down
.3% from the previous week.

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And if you want to look at the
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we're looking at 363,055
episodes were actively

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published.
So that's down 1.3% from the

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previous month.
And again, these are numbers

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that I think make the idea of
podcasting feeling crowded puts

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it on a little more perspective.
And actually, if you compare how

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many blogs there are, I mean,
these numbers are really, really

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low.
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The number of blogs is just
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Yeah, same with like YouTube
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Yet it seems like people are
fine with starting YouTube

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channels.
They don't feel overwhelmed that

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there are millions of channels
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I, I think, and I don't know if
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point.
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should juxtapose these figures
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know, and give them a
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I like that idea.
I like that idea.

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And since we're speaking to you,
Dr., How about we dig into our

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top five lists for.
Today.

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OK, so today's first top five
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The top five podcasts from
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always a little behind.
So this is from May 11th to May

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17th #5 is Doctor Insanity
podcasts #4 is Rotten mango #3

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is financial analyst, that's
Caleb Hammer.

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Number 2 is Joe Rogan
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The number one podcast is the
Midas Touch Podcast.

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Oh, OK, there that one is again.
Every once in a while that one

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pops up on these different
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OK, so then what's your special
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OK, the special list today is
the top five Spotify's film and

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TV podcasts.
OK OK so #5 is happy sad

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confused with Josh Horowitz #4
is the pod has spoken.

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The pod has spoken with Tyson
apostle #3 is now get a load of

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these SRO were so SEO words
boring history for sleep, gentle

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storyline and ambient sounds.
OK, I'm all-wheel #3 good, we

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did.
Thank you #2 is the big picture.

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And the number one podcast is
the Rewatchables, which has been

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up there in the top five
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Yeah.
All right, Very cool.

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Thank you, Dr. So that was the
Spotify film and TV list.

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Thank you for that, Dr. Let's
move into just a couple of

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events on the radar over this
next week, starting with today

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on Empowered Podcasting live at
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We're hanging out me and my
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and Rich Perry with second year
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and podcasting morning show Co
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joined us here this morning.
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discovered the Empowered
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why he stuck around and his
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interviews at EPC 3.
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announcements and tease a few
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during EPC weekend.
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Eastern today, May 27th at
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Live.
I would love to see those of you

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Would love to see you there to
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It would mean the world to me,
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that.
Also, another event for you, how

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to use music in podcasts.
This comes from radio boot camp

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and the some of the description
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Scoring can make a podcast feel
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It can shape the pace, add
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emotional pull.
But when it's off, it can get in

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the way fast.
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music to placing it with
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effects, licenses, and music
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You'll leave with a stronger
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part of the story itself.
This is a paid event.

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It's happening Friday, June 5th
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I will share a link to this in
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out if you're interested.
You know, we talk a lot here

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about sound and scoring and
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different music, etcetera.
I think this will be a good one

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to really dig deep into that.
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Again, that's from Radio Boot
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but I really should have hit
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Quick tip, smart move.
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And Ralph, what do we have for

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today's business bite?
OK, I got to start off by saying

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I'm super distracted today.
At midnight last night, my

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daughter-in-law was admitted to
the hospital, which is a good

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thing.
I'm going to be a grandfather

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probably in the next 24 hours.
So I'm sort of sitting here on

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pins and needles, to be honest
with you, looking at my text

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messages, They're in Texas, I'm
in Delaware, so there's a bit of

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a area between us.
But please keep her in your

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thoughts and prayers today.
Should be meeting or seeing my

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grandson sometime today so.
Do we know the?

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Names.
We do not have a name yet that

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is like the that's like locked
up in Fort Knox.

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Yeah, that's been a whole thing,
Dr. But we're going to.

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We know it's a boy, and at this
point, that's what we know.

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So if I seem a little distracted
today, I apologize ahead of

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time.
My best friend Jonah, he is a

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dad later in life and he now has
three kids and you all have met

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Jonah before.
We've had him on the show. 1 of

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the things they won't even tell
people, the sex of the baby.

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And I always get confused by
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I always wonder like, why is it
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Why do we have to if you're
going to find out?

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Although they don't, they
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themselves as well.
So like if they don't know and

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then no one else is going to
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But I always wonder a question,
why are we really keeping this

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stuff a secret?
If we know the name, we know the

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sex, why not share it ahead of
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But I guess, you know, it's just
that big reveal that everyone

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gets so excited about.
Oh, it's definitely twins.

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And no.
One knows about it until they

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walk into the room right at the
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Right.
Yeah.

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Well, well, let me get to the
real news of today and here's

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your business bite.
Now I'm going to talk about an

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article of Forbes article was
written by Frank Ratchiapi and

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he says the global podcast
economy and late ready for this

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$9.2 billion in 2025.
Now that's a big number, but

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here's the even more impressive
number that's up 23% from the

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year before.
Now, that number is impressive

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on its own, but here's the part
creators really need to pay

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attention to.
The report says the fastest

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growing podcast publishers are
using video not just for

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discovery, but for monetization.
And that matters because for a

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long time, a lot of ocasors have
looked at video as an optional

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addon or just a way to get Clis
out on social.

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But this report suggests that
publishers growing revenue the

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fastest are thinking bigger than
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They're building video into the
business model.

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And when you step back, the
growth of podcasting is kind of

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staggering.
Go back to 2016.

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In 2016, it was estimated around
$100 million a year.

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Today, think about that.
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it's at $9.2 billion globally.
That tells us podcasting is no

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longer some emerging side
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It's becoming a major media
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What's really interesting is
that while film, radio, and even

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some streaming platforms are
dealing with profitability

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pressure and audience shifts,
podcasting is still in a growth

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phase.
It's smaller, sure, but it's

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moving fast and attracting some
serious business attention.

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So for creators, here's my real
take away for today.

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This is a reminder to think
beyond just downloads and think

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about revenue layers.
Think about how your content can

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work in audio and video, how can
work in sponsorships, clips,

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partnerships and community.
The opportunity here is not just

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to make a podcast, it's to build
a more valuable media asset

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around your voice and your
audience.

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And that's today's business
bite.

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Thank you, Ralph.
And you are allowed to be

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distracted today.
Don't worry about it if you're

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distracted today.
And I see you look a little

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distracted right now.
Did you get a text?

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here, a text.

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Let's see here.
We're in the waiting game.

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So she has been induced and we
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This is too much information.
Just tell me.

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dad I need some fatherly advice
when is the right time to start

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a family?
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time.
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it's not a right time.
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from dinner and my son calls and
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call us in the evening.
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need your help mom.
I'm going to pop up.

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I got to be honest with you.
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people that never cries and she
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to me.
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an emotional roller coaster.
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disruptive here, but it's just
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me today because I just my, my
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I'm sure you will, Ralph, you're
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got a big heart and that's what
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us posted If we get any news
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do want you to disrupt the show
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everybody for your thoughts and
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I truly appreciate it.
Hey, Ralph.

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No, Yeah, go ahead.
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audience.
Go ahead, Dan.

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Ralph Yeah.
Don't focus on the rest of the

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show.
Focus on what you're going to

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tell the kid when you meet them.
Is it going to be an IRA?

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What?
What do you go with today?

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When you go talk to this little
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with some kind of an IRA
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What?
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here?
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These are our news bites,

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podcasting 2.0, I believe.
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So with that doctor, you want to
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Sure, So Late night got
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last laugh.
Stephen Colbert's exit from The

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platforms.
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traditional late night TV
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economics, comedians are finding
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through podcasts and YouTube.
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Trevor Noah, Amy Poehler, and
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Reuters frames the bigger story
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night economics and the rise of
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Trevor Noah's show, I just
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Trevor Noah's show What Now has
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with Reuters reporting more than
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own more of their work, own more
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There's that thing again.
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relationships.
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can leave CBS and still command
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Is that dying?
What do you think?

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Yeah, and it's Colbert, not
Colbert.

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Colbert.
Sorry Colbert, sorry I was a

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foul and watcher when I was
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That night.
I'm sorry.

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No.
I mean, I was actually wondering

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about this when I heard about
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the exit last week.
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know, yeah, why wouldn't some of
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Start a podcast and clearly a
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I was thinking specifically for
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what he's going to do.
Sounds like maybe that is what

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he's going to end up doing.
I see a couple people want to

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chime in on this one.
So we'll pause here.

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Alex, you first and then we'll
go to Ralph.

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Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean streaming has

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really killed the game.
There is no must see TV in terms

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of a time slot.
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season in one clip.
It's harder and harder to these

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stuff at an appointment time.
I mean, I think they'll probably

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be just as successful on YouTube
or the podcast that he decides

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to do or whatever.
It's going to be interesting to

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see what the major 4 do in terms
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I mean, they sponsored
themselves from news to all

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these different genres to the
point that, you know, streaming

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is going to go to another
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I think in general, because you
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streams.
So it's going to be interesting.

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But yeah, I think that's it's
the start of something new.

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That's right.
I think that's a High School

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Musical song, by the way.
I only know that because my wife

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and I were just reminiscing
about our kids watching High

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School Musical, and so we put on
some of the soundtrack.

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Yeah.
Thank you.

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I found somebody from that
generation.

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OK.
Thank you.

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BC and Ralph, you wanted to
comment on this news story as.

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Well, yeah, I just want to
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These guys just aren't funny and
that's why they're not on major

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network TV anymore.
I think that's part of the

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issue.
Second issue, I think network TV

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is dead.
Put the nails in it.

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It's done.
I think that all of us have

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media companies now, and I think
what you're going to and to talk

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about what Alex talked about, I
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networks are going to die soon
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I think people are realizing
they can create their own media

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companies and they can drive
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of being on these big platforms.
And I think that's great.

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I think that's fantastic.
I think it's going to open up

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the doors to people like you and
I and other, you know, DIY

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content creators who can be at
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And if you attract an audience
because you're entertaining and

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you can build relations with
people, I think this is the

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greatest opportunity of a
lifetime right now.

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Yeah.
Yep, I agree.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you Do.

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You follow Mark, do you follow
anyone on YouTube?

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Like a regular podcast that you
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The one that I've been watching
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depending where I am at the
time, is Amy Poehler's show Good

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Hang.
I I am hooked like she does.

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It really is.
It does feel like the title A

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Good Hang.
It really does when you listen

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to those interviews, and I love
the fact that she first

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interviews somebody that knows
the guest, so she does like that

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10 minutes with that person who
knows the upcoming guest and

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then she brings the guest on.
I just think she does such a

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brilliant job.
Yeah.

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So the one that I watch is I
watch a couple.

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So the one that I watch the most
is Chewed Up, which is an an

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offshoot of a show that was on
ABC for a long time called

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Chewed.
It followed the view or the show

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was called The Chew followed by
the view.

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It was a cooking slash talk
show.

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And now the three chefs are on
YouTube and they keep

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reiterating we can say anything
the F we want.

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They don't say F.
We can say anything the F we

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want because we own this show.
We own this show, so yeah, it's

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so good.
This is such an interesting time

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to be in podcasting, that's for
sure.

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Agreed.
Yes, BC go ahead.

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Yeah, similarly, I've been
enjoying the tea time with the

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Raven, Simone and Miranda and
someone who grew up with those

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massive hit shows between the
early 2000s and like 12 and

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2015.
And hearing all the behind the

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scenes, what it looked like to
be a child star of Disney in

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those days and how that affects
people has been a really big eye

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opener for me as someone who's
only been a fan the whole time.

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But with all these other stories
coming out, it's been a great

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Ave. to learn about the real
reality of it.

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As a podcast guy I probably
should know this and I don't,

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but I've been seeing clips of
that show recently on social

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media.
Is it a newer show or is it

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just?
Thinking around for a couple of

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years, I think so.
I think they're just accruing

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more and more attention.
I mean, it's Raven Simone

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issues, but in the industry
forever.

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So she's she's getting all the
huge Disney stars on tour show

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and Nickelodeon stars too.
So she's just getting a lot of

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huge names on the show.
They must have just gotten a new

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social media manager then.
Maybe, yeah.

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Maybe.
Yeah.

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And Raven, she's the one.
She got her started originally

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on Cosby.
Show Cosby, right?

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Always since Cosby.
Awesome.

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All right, cool.
All right.

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Thank you, everyone.
Let's keep it moving, Dr. with

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the next story.
Right, Amazon has rolled out a

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new Alexa Plus feature called
Alexa Podcasts and it lets users

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create AI generated podcast
episodes on almost any topic in

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just a few minutes, according to
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You know what?
I'm not sure how I feel about

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this.
OK, according to People

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magazine, these episodes are
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Yeah, I'm hating this.
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Reuters, Associated Press, Time,
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And users can adjust the length

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and direction for listening
through Alexa app or compatible

455
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,680
Echo devices.
More to come with Amazon later

456
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,880
in the show.
But first, OK, this was lifted

457
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,920
first.
Some more details about the new

458
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,120
Alexa features include Alexa
podcast will create a

459
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,520
conversational AI hosted
episodes from user prompts on

460
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,480
topics like sports, history,
architecture, baking and more.

461
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,800
The feature gives users an
outline first so they can adjust

462
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,600
the episodes before listening.
Finished episodes save inside

463
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,160
and Alexa what finished?
Episode save Inside the Alexis.

464
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,200
It's a app.
Music and more sections.

465
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,360
Yeah, yeah.
OK.

466
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,120
I don't.
I'm not crazy.

467
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,200
I'm not crazy about this.
Well, and I saw feel better gave

468
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,040
a thumbs down as you were
sharing this as well.

469
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Phil, are you agreeing with Dr.
and if so, why?

470
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:34,600
I am 100% agreeing with Dr. that
AI created podcast with an AI

471
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:40,320
voice without any human is the
worst piece of AI slop there is.

472
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,920
I want more.
I said it in the chat, more

473
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,480
authenticity, like going to the
previous story.

474
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,160
Why so many non so many
comedians going from the late

475
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,000
night or even having their own
show going to YouTube.

476
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,200
It's they're allowed to be
themselves.

477
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,360
They're not being told you have
to act exactly like this.

478
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,280
You have to say this.
They're allowed to be more human

479
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,400
and less controlled by the
corporate elites if you will.

480
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,560
And getting this AI slop from
Amazon is just more crap being

481
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,360
put out there that no one
probably will want to listen to.

482
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,120
So I'm fully against AI
podcasts.

483
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,200
I don't mind using AI to help in
your podcast production, but it

484
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,840
shouldn't be just AI.
And.

485
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,640
That's still better using the
new colloquial AI slop.

486
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Yeah.
And that term, well, look, I'm

487
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,520
on board with all of you, right.
Like I get it.

488
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,280
And I, I'd prefer we don't have
AI generated podcasts.

489
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,920
And do we have the right to just
immediately call it AI Slop if

490
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,600
we haven't even heard how it's
produced?

491
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,680
Yet. 100%.
We don't have, no, we do not

492
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,680
have that right because there
are people that are using AI

493
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,480
because they have a speech
impediment.

494
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,320
There are people who are using
it for other purposes.

495
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,400
And so for us to just dismiss it
as AI slot from the beginning.

496
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,080
But that feels like for the
example you just used, though,

497
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,080
that feels like there is a human
touch in that.

498
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,000
That's the thing, Ralph, with
people who do have a disability

499
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,840
or have that fear of speaking or
need to use AI to help them in

500
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,520
their speech, they're using,
they're still using their human

501
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,200
input and using AI as the voice
because they may not be able to

502
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,960
talk or whatever.
I'm not calling those AI slob.

503
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,720
And to be clear, I'm talking
about the people like I think

504
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,760
it's inception point or
something like that, that it's

505
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,880
nothing but AI that runs the
whole production from A-Z.

506
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,560
There's not a human who puts it
in unless it's the prompt going

507
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,800
make a purchase about this.
That's not human input.

508
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,160
That's just giving directions.
When I talk about AI slop, I'm

509
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520
talking about that like it's
from A-Z.

510
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,160
It's nothing but AI.
But if you're using AI because

511
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,520
you're someone who's mute, can't
speak, you know, then that's

512
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,400
fine.
And you're using AI and AI voice

513
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,280
for the speaking.
But you've done everything up

514
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,120
until that point.
That's not AI slop to me, that

515
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
is someone using an
accessibility tool.

516
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,520
But if you're just using AI
because you're like, oh, I'm

517
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,160
just going to put AI podcasts
out there and I don't care.

518
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160
That's the slop I'm talking
about.

519
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Yeah.
And to be fair, Ralph, this

520
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,920
example, what Amazon's doing,
this has nothing to do with

521
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000
people with disabilities or
challenged, right?

522
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,040
This is just Amazon capitalizing
on AI and podcasting.

523
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,840
So I think we got to make sure
that we separate those two

524
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,440
because I think we all agree
with you, Ralph, there is a time

525
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,840
and a place for AI generated
content.

526
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,640
And but still, I don't think I
just think it's dangerous to

527
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,480
just blanket statement all AI
generated podcast as AI slop

528
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,640
because I do think that there
are some out there that might

529
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,040
not be quote UN quote sloppy,
right?

530
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,960
It might actually work.
Well, I'm not saying that I I

531
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760
can give you an example because
I haven't, as far as I know,

532
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,720
listened to a lot of these, but
I just think it's a little

533
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,840
questionable just to blanket
statement these shows as AI

534
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,760
slop.
Let me.

535
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,560
Go.
I feel good about it.

536
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,920
I feel.
Good about the blanket

537
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,440
statement.
Let me go to Sid and then we're

538
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,360
going to go to BC.
Go ahead, Sid.

539
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,400
So good morning.
Everybody, so my question, the

540
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,080
way I understand this, I
understood this news story is

541
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,600
this is me saying to Alexa, hey,
create me a podcast review of

542
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,840
these three topics and it goes
and does a personal review goes.

543
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,760
To all these different sources.
And then gives me a morning

544
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,800
update on, you know,
architecture, finance and

545
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,320
entrepreneurship, right?
So it's not a public podcast,

546
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800
it's a me podcast.
It's only for me.

547
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,240
You won't be able to find what I
ask it to do.

548
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,040
So I'm questioning, is this even
really a podcast?

549
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,160
Because they used to have a,
they used to have a like where

550
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,600
you could create it with Alexa,
your morning brief or your daily

551
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,720
brief or whatever.
And they would give you whatever

552
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,160
you told it to or whatever time
you sent it to give you an

553
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,520
update of things.
So is this really even a podcast

554
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,400
or just a way for you to get
information that's important to

555
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,840
you without you having to go to
all these sources to find?

556
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,440
It.
Oh well, that's interesting.

557
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,360
Yeah, and we don't know for sure
if this is private or if it

558
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,960
would then live publicly
somewhere, but I tend to agree

559
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,000
with you said, it sounds like
based on the article that this

560
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,560
would be more of a private
podcast for the individual,

561
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040
custom made for them.
BC what did you want to add?

562
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,800
I was just going to say at this
point, for those of you who do

563
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,880
not watch the live stream video
marking the clip, the moment

564
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880
that Dr. started announcing that
story to see mine and Ralph's

565
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,080
very, very visual and visceral
reaction to the concepts of what

566
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,600
was happening in that story.
Just in case you under the

567
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,560
epitome of how this has
generally feels about the idea.

568
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,200
The suggestion about this kind
of podcast content that'll give

569
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,080
you unquestionably our answer.
Right.

570
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,920
So at about 8:30-ish or halfway
through the show, go back and

571
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,760
watch the video at at.
Youtube.com.

572
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,680
Slash online.
Yep, Yep.

573
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,320
YouTube.
Yeah.

574
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Go to
insteadpodcastingmorningshow.com/join

575
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,560
us and you can find the video
over there.

576
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,320
That's hilarious.
I missed it, so I'll have to go

577
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,600
back and look myself.
Janae is on stage as well.

578
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,480
Janae, did you want to chime in?
Good morning all.

579
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,320
This is a fun topic.
As you know you guys have been

580
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,360
bringing really fun topics this
morning.

581
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,400
I don't know what it is.
So we are.

582
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Topics.
But this is very similar to what

583
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760
notebook LM does for you
already.

584
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Instead, it's now you're just
asking Alexa, hey, go find these

585
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,320
topics do a thing for me.
So then I can listen to it on a

586
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,160
daily basis.
And I'm that's what I'm guessing

587
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
that it's let's you do so daily
basis thing.

588
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,040
It's almost like your morning
report.

589
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,160
I'm interested in these topics,
pull them together and then just

590
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,680
play them to me.
So state that it's like A to me

591
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,480
podcast more than anything else,
but it's your own podcast for

592
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,600
your own enhancement of your
podcast personal.

593
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, that makes sense.

594
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,400
All right.
I think that we've gone through

595
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,520
enough of this particular story
and we do have a lot more to get

596
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,440
to 1st.
Let me let's see, I'm trying to

597
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,320
think where we should go from
here.

598
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:35,440
I'm going to go to this.
So podcasters are doing a lot

599
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,880
right now.
AI, video, social clips, better

600
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,920
tools, workflows, more platforms
and more pressure.

601
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,400
But according to anewrss.com
Podcaster Insights survey,

602
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,840
audience growth is still the
biggest challenge.

603
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,840
So Thursday, tomorrow on the
podcasting morning show, we're

604
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,000
asking, are podcasters doing too
much?

605
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,840
We'll talk about what's actually
helping creators grow, what's

606
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520
just adding more work, and how
to tell the difference.

607
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,440
So join us tomorrow morning,
Thursday inside the Podcasting

608
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,920
Morning show.
If you're serious about starting

609
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,840
or growing your podcast, you
don't have to figure it out

610
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,280
alone.
So come join us at

611
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:27,080
podcastingmorningshow.com/joinus
to wrap up our news bites before

612
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,679
we get into our major headlines.
Riverside has officially dropped

613
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,960
the dot FM from its name and
moved to riverside.com.

614
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,000
I noticed I started noticing
this last week and I was curious

615
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,040
if I had missed an announcement
or not, but it was just an

616
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,040
announced a few days ago.
This is signalling a bigger

617
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,880
shift in what the company wants
to be.

618
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,920
The platform started in 2020 as
a remote recording tool for

619
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,494
podcasters, but it's now
positioning itself as an all in

620
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,800
So I want to get into our first
of three, what I'm considering

621
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,280
are major headlines this
morning.

622
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Spotify wants podcasts to feel
more like an app.

623
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,240
And this comes from Spotify.
They announced a fresh batch of

624
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:36,600
podcast features at its 2026
Investor Day last week.

625
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,160
And the big theme is that the
company wants the podcast

626
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,600
experience to become more
interactive, more personalized,

627
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,520
and more directly monetizable.
Spotify is pushing for podcasts

628
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,680
further into a platform driven
experience where discovery, fan

629
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,440
interactions, subscriptions and
AI generated listening all

630
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,160
starts living under one roof.
So let me explain.

631
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,880
They say first that more than
500 million users have streamed

632
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,920
a video podcast, which is up 50%
year over year, which enforces

633
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,360
how seriously the platform's
treating video as part of

634
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,640
podcast consumption.
And as I said, Spotify's adding

635
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,120
a feature that lets premium
mobile users ask, well, I didn't

636
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,880
say this part.
Let's premium mobile users ask

637
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,680
questions about the podcast that
they're listening to and get

638
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,320
answers in real time.
This launches first in the US,

639
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Sweden and Ireland.
So while you're listening to

640
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,440
your podcast, you could, if
you're on the Spotify platform,

641
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,960
stop and ask it a question about
something that you're hearing on

642
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,320
that show, and it'll provide
feedback based on the content of

643
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,680
that show.
Creator sponsorships are now

644
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,280
live for creators and publishers
in the Spotify Partner Program,

645
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,920
giving them more tools to
schedule, replace, and analyze

646
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,240
brand sponsorships.
For video content, Spotify's

647
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,840
also introducing memberships,
which will let creators build

648
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
recurring revenue directly from
their most engaged fans.

649
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,040
The feature will launch with
select creators first.

650
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,280
Think of this as similar to what
you see perhaps on Apple

651
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,000
Podcasts where they have that
subscription format where you

652
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,320
can maybe get episodes earlier
than they're publicly released.

653
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,080
You can get sensor sensor free
content, etcetera, etcetera.

654
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,560
So the same idea here for
Spotify.

655
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,880
Spotify says creators using
memberships will have direct

656
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,840
access to subscribers, import
export options across platforms

657
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:43,760
and audience intelligence tools.
And that's an important detail

658
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,120
because creator ownership of
audience relationships has

659
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,520
always been one of the biggest
concerns with platform

660
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600
monetization.
So that's a cool thing.

661
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,440
And Spotify's prompted playlist
for podcasts have already helped

662
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,960
more than half of users who
tried the feature discover who

663
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,960
tried the feature discover a new
show, according to the company.

664
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,440
That matters because listener
intent may become a bigger part

665
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,360
of podcast discovery.
We use, although I need to

666
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,680
update it a bit, we use here at
the podcasting morning show a

667
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,240
playlist that we connect to the
podcast.

668
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:24,160
Here it was, and I think it's a
bunch of songs that we all once

669
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,720
did a couple years ago now.
We all chose different songs

670
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,520
that would represent our
podcast.

671
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,880
It was just a fun throwaway
episode that created a really

672
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,280
awesome playlist of music.
So that's what we've attached

673
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,560
currently to our show, but
another great way to use it is

674
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,320
create a playlist of your
favorite episodes from your

675
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,920
podcast and attach it to your
podcast.

676
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,440
We could probably do a whole
walkthrough of that, but we're

677
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,120
not going to do it right now.
The bigger take away is

678
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Spotify's moving podcasting
closer to a customized AI

679
00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,360
assisted interactive media feed.
They could create discovery that

680
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,440
could create discovery
opportunities, but it also means

681
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,680
creators may need to think
harder about how their show gets

682
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600
surfaced, summarized,
recommended, and monetized

683
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,440
inside Spotify's eco system.
So I'm curious what you all

684
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,840
think.
Does this move toward an

685
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,320
interactive podcast consumption
make the experience better?

686
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Are you excited about it?
Do you think your audience is

687
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,640
going to be into that?
Or does it start to change what

688
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,000
a podcast even is at this point?
I'm curious what you guys think.

689
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000
I'm personally excited about
this idea.

690
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,160
I like the idea that people can
interact with the podcast more

691
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,240
because when we talk about
attention spans, even with

692
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,280
video, we know that they're
short.

693
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,360
And being able to create a way
that people can engage more with

694
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,280
the podcast other than maybe
leaving a comment, leaving a

695
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,880
review, they can now ask it
questions.

696
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,440
I think that there's something
valuable to that.

697
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,400
I love the idea and I have a
feeling we're going to see more

698
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,960
of this on other podcast
platforms moving forward.

699
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,920
No one else has any thoughts on
that?

700
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,640
You want me to keep moving?
What is Spotify again?

701
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,680
I don't have anybody over there.
So for me, is it even a podcast

702
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,280
platform?
Is it a place to listen to

703
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,920
music?
And I say that being funny.

704
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,840
I just, when I look at my stats,
I just don't have anybody on

705
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,520
Spotify and I don't know why
that is.

706
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000
Do you think that if we
encouraged it, it would change

707
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,120
things, right?
Like if we talk to our audience

708
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,160
and say, hey, I really would
love you to check us out over on

709
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Spotify.
I'm trying to grow my presence

710
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,720
over there.
Just being completely

711
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,920
transparent.
I'm curious if that would work.

712
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,040
Tide wants to chime it.
Chime in first.

713
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,280
Let me go to Tide.
Go ahead.

714
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,640
Good morning.
Good morning.

715
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,400
I was.
Just going to ask the question,

716
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,800
what does an interactive podcast
look like?

717
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,400
I can't quite conceptualize it
because it reminds me of

718
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,720
training videos that I have to
watch for work and you know how

719
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:47,720
they.
Pause.

720
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,680
You know, they pause in the
middle of the video you're

721
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,400
listening, and then it'll have
like some question that you have

722
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,080
to answer.
I'm like, is that what we're

723
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,440
talking?
Oh God, I hope not.

724
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,800
Well, isn't this kind of an
interactive podcast?

725
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,360
I mean, we are talking to
different people on stage.

726
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,000
We are reading the comments that
are in the chat for reading the

727
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,800
comments that are on YouTube.
Isn't this kind of an

728
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,280
interactive?
Yeah.

729
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,760
Podcast just a different kind of
interactive than what we're

730
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,680
describing here.
And to answer Tide's question,

731
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,480
yeah, I think what this is, it's
basically you inside the the

732
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,480
Spotify app, you've got the
podcast open and there are just

733
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,160
some additional features when
the podcast player is playing

734
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,320
that you can interact with.
Like maybe voting voting on a.

735
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,680
Yeah.
And they already have voting.

736
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,800
They already have some of that
already.

737
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,560
So so yeah, this is just more
specific to being able to engage

738
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,240
with the podcast.
Quite literally, if you heard

739
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,560
can ask it questions.
All right, we got lots of people

740
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,000
off of mic.
So let me let me reel this in

741
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,120
for a second.
I want to go to Dan 1st and then

742
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,480
we're going to check in with
Alex.

743
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,000
Go ahead, Dan.
Thanks.

744
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,240
Yeah, we totally changed how in
one of our shows that we've

745
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,480
created a ton of engagement
through Spotify.

746
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,960
And I just started noticing at
the beginning of our last season

747
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,000
that wow, we're getting, I
didn't even know what these

748
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,560
were.
I didn't know you could comment.

749
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,680
We have the vast majority of our
listeners on Apple and Overcast

750
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,520
and different players like that.
But you know, we have an OK, a

751
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,000
fair amount from Spotify, but
all of a sudden we started

752
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,640
getting comments.
I started realizing like what if

753
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,160
we just because it seems really
simple to comment if you are a

754
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Spotify listener.
So now we specifically before we

755
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,320
start recording, we kind of come
up with that, well, what are we

756
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640
going to ask or what we should
have like a question we can

757
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,480
throw out there.
So whenever we ask anything or

758
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,800
even as we're rambling through
our BS and we're talking about

759
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,440
whatever we're talking about, if
we come up with something like

760
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,040
and we want to get listeners
engagement, we literally will

761
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,200
say, Hey, well, you know, we
call our listeners the scary

762
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
book people.
We go, hey, scary book people,

763
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,960
we want to hear from you like
what blah, blah, blah, blah,

764
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,800
blah.
Easiest way to answer, just

765
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440
leaving us a comment on Spotify
or you can go to

766
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,960
ourpage@youknowblahblahblah.com/sound
off.

767
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,600
And there we have, you know,
speak pipe or the pod page

768
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,560
version of Speed Pike.
And it's just, we really make

769
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,040
the engagement super simple for
everyone not on Spotify by just

770
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,520
giving them a web page to go to,
but really by mentioning Spotify

771
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,280
first, by leaving us a comment
on Spotify, Spotify, it just

772
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,680
triggers the Spotify people to
like, oh, I am listening.

773
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,240
They start to comment.
And then we noticed that I guess

774
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,680
actually last year because when
they do what is it thing they do

775
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,880
at the end of the year?
The Wrapped Spotify.

776
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,240
The wrapped yeah all of a
sudden, like we noticed like you

777
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,440
and we weren't even doing it St.
specifically telling people to

778
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,520
comment, but we noticed like
wow, our engagement from, you

779
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,920
know, the previous year on
Spotify like blew up and like,

780
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,320
you know, I think we had like 4
comments.

781
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:55,200
They're like you've improved
437,000% That's in the top.

782
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,320
Like OK, great, we have 5
listeners.

783
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,320
Hey, wow, fantastic.
But I mean I'm downplaying it.

784
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,280
It was an insanely impressive
thing.

785
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,360
And Dr. you just said something
cool about the polls.

786
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
I don't I know that's an option.
Don't know how to do it.

787
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,680
I don't want to get too heavy
into Spotify because I don't

788
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,760
know.
I mean, I want to focus on like

789
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,720
delivering the content that we
want to deliver.

790
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,000
I mean, that's there's just two
of us.

791
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,800
And I just want to make sure
we're focusing our power or our

792
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,520
effort on making the show better
and not kind of worrying so much

793
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,880
about the different platforms
because really do think whatever

794
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,640
platform you're on, if the
content is good, that is like

795
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,600
the key to growing, you know, be
so good that it forces people to

796
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,280
kind of pay attention.
And can you use that feature

797
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,000
that Spotify has to ask your
audience, what do you want to

798
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,240
hear?
Yes, of course.

799
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,840
Totally, Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
sure.

800
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,560
So I mean, just honestly all in
my opinion is if you ask any

801
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,160
question is literally lead with
the easiest way to answer is

802
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,960
just leaving us a Spotify
comment.

803
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,720
Or you can go to
bandcamppodcast.com/sound Off or

804
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,560
whatever.
And it's just super easy, super,

805
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,560
you know, reduces so much
friction.

806
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,320
And as soon as you say that, the
Spotify people are like, oh, I'm

807
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,000
on Spotify, wait, I can comment
and all of a sudden they start

808
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,080
commenting.
I think we should start doing

809
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,720
that, Mark.
First of all, let's just say to

810
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:28,000
Dan way to put that little, that
little 2 minute plug podcast.

811
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,440
Then I got to tell you, you
should be giving me $0.50 for

812
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,560
that.
But no, listen all I'm trying to

813
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:41,000
say, Alex, Alex, I'm just trying
to share a podcast tip.

814
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,800
And one of the best ways to
learn that tip if you're

815
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,760
interested in banned books and
why they're banned is just by

816
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,680
listening the band camp podcast.
It's so simple trying to share,

817
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,560
no listen, trying to share some
knowledge for.

818
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,400
That guy No, no, but honestly,
you make a really good point and

819
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,240
this is the point that I wanted
to make before, you know, we

820
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,960
talk about new podcasters and we
talk about old podcasters.

821
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,920
It really doesn't matter.
It's about where do you want to

822
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,640
put your eggs?
And I say that because there's

823
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,440
so much out there.
I don't.

824
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,800
I'm not like Dr. Who likes to go
on different platforms.

825
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,160
And I'm not saying that as a bad
thing.

826
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,240
Dr. You love to just find new
ways to not go on Apple, and

827
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,120
that's fine.
You know, and I'm being all

828
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,000
serious, it's like there's other
platforms that are out there

829
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,680
that people enjoy their podcast.
And if you want to put the

830
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,560
effort into Spotify, they have a
more robust platform than they

831
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,720
used to.
And I think if people are

832
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,880
starting out, that's a great way
to start because you have all

833
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,880
these features.
The hard part is when you're

834
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,640
old, when you've done this for
more than a couple of years, you

835
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,160
get in your routine and you
don't want to screw it up.

836
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,440
And it's about being brave and
trying to figure out what the

837
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,720
latest and greatest is.
And I think then you're

838
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:57,800
absolutely right.
When you go to your website,

839
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,880
what was it again?
And you do that have to go to

840
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,200
get your monetization from your
content creators thing from

841
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,000
Ralph, you know, then you've got
something and I think that's a

842
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,960
really important thing.
Take your time with this.

843
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,240
You know, if you want to put
your toe into the water, put it

844
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,040
in.
But if you're not doing it, it's

845
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,720
not the end of the world.
Right, don't I would say don't

846
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:21,840
ruin your content to, you know,
placate the different platforms.

847
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Like I just realized that, wow,
we're getting some comments.

848
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,440
What if we just ask because it's
it's not like, you know, it's,

849
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,960
it's hard to get podcast
listeners to do damn near

850
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,160
anything, right?
I mean, it's hard to get

851
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,960
engagement.
Except find your steps on your

852
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,360
podcast.
I mean, listen absolutely when

853
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,200
you have something is tried and
true.

854
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,520
No, it Dan, it's true.
It is hard to get people to do

855
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,680
stuff.
I mean, you know, we've

856
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,560
thankfully we have gotten some
submissions for the Spotlight

857
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,000
series, but that's been a
challenge.

858
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,560
We we ask all the time and we're
not getting nearly the kind of

859
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,680
response we thought we would for
that, for a free service to

860
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,200
promote a podcast.
You know why I think that is?

861
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:03,200
I think because you're trying
too hard to make it so slick in

862
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,840
such a systematic framework.
Like I, I don't want to tell you

863
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,880
how to do your show, but I think
I think what I would do is like,

864
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,480
hey, you know, thanks for
listening there.

865
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,280
You know, whatever.
I'm people always suck at doing

866
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,920
the small talk in an example.
I'd say thanks for listening.

867
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,480
Oh, hey, welcome to the podcast.
I mean, I think you just have to

868
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,720
basically throw out there.
We'd really love to hear about

869
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,640
your podcast.
Shoot me Adm Maybe we can

870
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,320
feature on our show for free.
I just, we'd love to, we'd love

871
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,160
to give you a plug message me.
We'll try that.

872
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,760
Because otherwise it's kind of
scary, I think sometimes.

873
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,680
Yeah, it can be.
I get that, I get that.

874
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,880
But.
And just as an aside, whenever I

875
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,600
hear Dan say the name of his
podcast, I immediately get a

876
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,200
vision of a fourth grade
clarinet players sitting on a

877
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,880
chair.
I realize that.

878
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Yeah, it's not.
BAND it's BANNED.

879
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,840
Literally, we've been doing a
ton of sponsor outreach and

880
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,760
we're getting a bunch of
sponsors and stuff.

881
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,400
But even when I'm talking to
normal, that's not a humble

882
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,320
break too, Alec.
But I'm just saying like, you

883
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,920
know, when I'm reaching out to
like bookstores or even to our

884
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,800
audience, like we just start, we
just cut our new promo for the

885
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,800
new season and we literally have
to go, you know, blah, blah,

886
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,200
blah, fine, you know where to
find us.

887
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,320
It's band camp.
And that's banned.

888
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Like books that are banned, not
banned, like tubas and snare

889
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,840
drums.
It's like we literally have to

890
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,880
say that.
And even though I'll be talking

891
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,960
to a bookstore, it'll be like,
hey, we're the number one comedy

892
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,720
band books podcast on Apple and
Spotify.

893
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,880
What would you guys talk about?
Like band, like I'm calling a

894
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,560
bookstore, it's a banned book
podcast.

895
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,520
They don't get it.
It's like you got to really

896
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,840
sometimes be so super clear.
Clarity is the other big tip on

897
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
how to win in podcast.
Agreed.

898
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,680
I think that's very key.
Yes, thank you, Dan, and thank

899
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,680
you for giving us an example of,
you know, I said maybe we need

900
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,040
to ask more if we want people to
use Spotify more and Dan just

901
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,400
shared a great example of that.
So thank you, Dan.

902
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:05,000
Appreciate it, Ralph.
You've got the next story here,

903
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,520
and it's on this topic of AI
podcasting.

904
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,480
Yeah, here we go again.
AI podcast just got creepier at

905
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,840
London's podcast show last week,
Inception Point AI.

906
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Now don't start booing me, I'm
just reading the story says it's

907
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,200
going to stop creating AI
generated podcast hosts that

908
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,680
claim to be licensed doctors or
health professionals after James

909
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,440
Kridlin at Pod News proves he
called attention to the issue.

910
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,560
But the company also says it's
not going to takedown existing

911
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,040
content.
It is already published, even if

912
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,120
those shows included AI voices
resenting themselves as medical

913
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,680
doctors.
Now for Indy Podcast, this story

914
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,280
raises some big questions about
trust, about disclosure,

915
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,360
platform responsibility, and
what happens when AI content

916
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,760
starts flooding the same spaces
where human creators are trying

917
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,880
to grow in.
So this is a big deal.

918
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,920
And so again, Inception Point
says they're not going to claim

919
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,640
to be doctors anymore.
I was like, oh, that's

920
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,080
fantastic.
That's good.

921
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,480
The company will still allow AI
personalities to describe

922
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,080
themselves as experts or being
well read and well studied, as

923
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,200
long as there's disclosure.
CEO Janine Wright said the

924
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,600
company hasn't taken down any
content it has ever made,

925
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,640
including older shows where AI
voices claim to be medical

926
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,240
doctors.
Here's a great one.

927
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,760
The company says it's producing
10,000 episodes a week and

928
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,120
reaches more than 1,000,000
listeners per month.

929
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,920
Wright announced that what she
called the world's first totally

930
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,000
autonomous podcaster, meaning an
AI system that can decide what

931
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,320
shows and episodes to create,
who to target, where to place

932
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,200
the ads, and eventually may
publish with little or no human

933
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,800
review.
Now this is Ralph's commentary.

934
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,680
There is a market for this.
This is my, this is the hardest

935
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,440
part for me.
I'm a free market capitalist

936
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,440
guy.
So clearly there's a market for

937
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,200
this.
Oh man, I don't know who's

938
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,800
listening to this stuff.
And when you start claiming that

939
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,440
you're a medical doctor and it
crosses me because I spent a lot

940
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,280
of money to become a licensed
professional.

941
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,480
And if they start putting out
accountants who are licensed

942
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,920
accountants, I'm going to lose
my stuff.

943
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,600
So what does everybody else
think about this?

944
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,480
I, I, you know, I 10,000 a week.
Just think about that number.

945
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,600
That number is staggering and
you know, I know we had Rob

946
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Greenlee on the show and Rob's
big thing as well.

947
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,160
We just need to have AI
disclosures.

948
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:25,400
I don't know that's going to fix
this.

949
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,360
I don't either.
I think it's a great I.

950
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,560
I don't know if they're going to
see it like or users even going

951
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,760
to see that disclaimer.
It needs to be really prominent

952
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,320
for it to work.
Like you got to say it during

953
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,200
the show at the top of the show
right away as part of a

954
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,680
disclaimer or something to make
sure that most people actually

955
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,560
understand that.
Because if you're going to hide

956
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,080
it in the show notes, no one's
going to see that.

957
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,400
But Mark, my question is, do
people care?

958
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,440
I think that they do, but let me
first hear from BCBC has his

959
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,160
hand up.
Go ahead.

960
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,640
I think unfortunately it'll be a
big spag of who does doesn't

961
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,320
care, but I think hopefully
we'll teeter on the side of more

962
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,560
care when it comes to lawyers,
doctors, whatever these AI

963
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,640
person personas are theatering
themselves off to be.

964
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,200
And I know I had another thought
and I completely lost it during

965
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,520
our initial reaction there
because I went back.

966
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Let me know.
Yeah.

967
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,480
But I think that this is just
like, like you said, Mark, this

968
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,560
needs to be upfront, especially
if they're not, I don't know how

969
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,720
it's legal for them to not
change older content.

970
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,400
That's what really what I'm kind
of caught on here is 1.

971
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,800
How were they able to do that in
the 1st place?

972
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,040
How was that not already tagged
as illegal?

973
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,240
And how is it not at this point
with this particular pivot,

974
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,680
still not illegal for them to
have AI personas that claim that

975
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,400
kind of professionality?
That's actually a really good

976
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,280
question.
I'm surprised whoever the powers

977
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,400
that be haven't come after them
for making false claims

978
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:51,640
originally.
And yes, great, good.

979
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,840
Good on them for changing it up
now moving forward, but the fact

980
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,680
that they're not going to take
down the old stuff is

981
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,440
questionable at the least.
And it's got to be illegal, like

982
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,840
you're saying.
Yeah, I'm not sure what to make

983
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,560
of that.
And maybe at some point somebody

984
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,560
will come after them and that
will be the way that Inception

985
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,240
gets taken down.
Who knows?

986
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:15,080
But ER, you wanted to comment.
Well, that's what scares me the

987
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:21,160
most when it comes to AI and the
amount of influence it has,

988
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,200
because I think it opens the
door for the FCC to say, hey, we

989
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,680
need to get involved in
podcasts.

990
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,760
Right now they are not but in
check, you know, tomorrow, let's

991
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,960
see if let's see if it happens.
If it happens.

992
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,720
No one here wants that, right?
No one here wants that.

993
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:46,000
But it feels like the more AI
gets involved, the more stories

994
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,840
we hear about false claims that
there's got to be an overseer,

995
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,440
there's got to be someone that
says no, don't do that, you

996
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,280
know?
But Dr. That's kind of already

997
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,280
happening because in other
countries and in certain states

998
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,080
now there are organizations
coming up that are talking about

999
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,240
AI content.
And that worries me because

1000
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,240
whose right is it to say, well,
this is good content, this is

1001
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,800
bad content.
So that's the problem is I think

1002
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,680
we're just going to have to
endure this AI stuff and try to

1003
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,920
sort through it.
And I think it's going to come

1004
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,760
down to a free market thing.
I really do.

1005
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,880
I think people are going to need
to make a decision of whether

1006
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,080
they want to listen to AI or
they don't, but that's the.

1007
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,920
Problem is that you don't know
that you're listening sometimes.

1008
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:30,840
People don't.
Know.

1009
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,760
Like like Ralph, you know, I
know you make a lot of music

1010
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,920
content and you make it clear
that you create it with AI, but

1011
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,760
I know there's also a ton of
music on Spotify that is all AI

1012
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,600
generated and people don't know
what they're listening to.

1013
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,200
I've actually caught my wife
listening to some of that AI

1014
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,960
generated music and I call it
out.

1015
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,320
And to answer your question,
when I say, you know, does that

1016
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,280
bother you?
At the end of the day, it didn't

1017
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,200
bother her.
She didn't mind because she was

1018
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,320
enjoying the music.
And that's my whole point is it

1019
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,520
comes down to if AI can create
content that is factual, if AI

1020
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,720
can create content that people
get entertainment from, then

1021
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:10,640
what's the harm?
That's my concern because if

1022
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,440
people are getting value from
it, if they say well, we're a

1023
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,440
doctor and they're not a doctor,
but the information is correct,

1024
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:18,160
I'm not sure there's an issue
there.

1025
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,720
And I know that's a lot of
popular.

1026
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:22,200
Position.
Well, that's a whole different

1027
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,920
story, Dr. And I agree with you
then I think they're.

1028
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,480
Delivered.
The way it's being delivered is

1029
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:33,440
so sharp and polished and shiny
that it's very difficult to

1030
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,800
discern what's real and what's
not real, what's fact and what's

1031
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,080
fiction.
Dr. There are people out there

1032
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,240
on regular TV shows that do the
exact same thing, that aren't

1033
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,320
AI, that are putting out
misinformation too.

1034
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,680
That's my counter.
Yeah, The only thing I disagree

1035
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,360
with is that I don't care
whether it's an AI or a human.

1036
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,440
We shouldn't be making claims if
that we're doctors if we're not,

1037
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,760
right.
I just I just regardless,

1038
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,120
regardless of whether or not the
information is factual.

1039
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,520
I agree with you 100%.
I think there is a place for and

1040
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,040
that's going to take one of
these boards of physicians or

1041
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,920
boards of something to go file
suit against somebody.

1042
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:15,200
Until they do that, this is
going to continue.

1043
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,720
When they do that, they'll stop.
Just like in my area, if

1044
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,800
somebody puts out a shingle that
says they're a licensed

1045
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,640
accountant, there's a board of
accountancy in Delaware that'll

1046
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,480
go after them if they don't
actually have a license.

1047
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,040
I think that's the way you solve
this problem, especially if

1048
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,640
they're going to say they're
licensed professionals.

1049
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,160
You and I agree with each other.
Yeah, and Dan, sorry, Dave in

1050
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,200
the chat on Clubhouse says can't
wait for the AI Podcaster Hall

1051
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,760
of Fame and Podcast Awards.
Will they write their own

1052
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,200
acceptance speeches?
And Dan says Dave Campbell for

1053
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,520
the win this morning.
Let's wrap it up right there

1054
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,360
This morning, a reminder that
tomorrow we're going to ask that

1055
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,240
question.
Are podcasters working too hard?

1056
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:59,040
And we're going to discuss this
based on in a blog from rss.com

1057
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,440
that came out recently.
So come join us tomorrow, 8:00

1058
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,720
AM Eastern Time as we do this
every Monday through Friday at

1059
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,440
that time.
So until then, make it a great

1060
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,040
day.
Everybody take care.