434. How to Walk Into Any Podcast Conference Fully Prepared

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Tuesday January 13th,
2026 and today Pod Fest

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conferences and showing up
prepared.

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We're diving into real world
tips, networking, do's and

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don'ts, and honest experiences
to help you feel confident and

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again, podcasting,

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Morning Chat.
Thanks so much for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronik, and
currently on stage with me we

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have producer Ashley Feller, Sid
Meadows, Ralph Esta, BC Babbles,

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Dr. Faye, Jonathan Howard and
Alex Baelish.

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Thank you to all of you and a
big thank you to Jonathan for

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leading the charge yesterday.
Last minute ish.

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I say last minute, maybe it was
a little more than last minute.

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By around three, 3:30 in the
morning yesterday I decided I

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was not going to make it to the
room because I could not sleep.

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In typical fashion during the
week, I tend to wake up very

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early in the morning and then my
mind starts spinning and it

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keeps me awake.
Yes, I think the official term

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for that is anxiety.
And I was just recognizing today

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that this specific anxiety feels
very similar to what I was

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experiencing leading up to the
Empowered Podcasting Conference.

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And this is all around Pod Fest,
this anxiety, same feeling,

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different event.
Specifically it's around my

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presentation.
I want to, I told this to

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Jonathan yesterday.
I'll tell this since I see,

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since Alex is here on stage and
I'm sure I've said it to others

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who are, who have spoken at
these conferences.

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I've said, oh, come on, you've
got this.

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You know this material, you've
got this down.

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Don't worry about it.
I take it all back, although I

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didn't want you to worry about
it.

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I get the nerves.
I, I hear you.

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I feel you.
The feeling is real.

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And look, let me just explain
and we're going to get into

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everything I promised at the top
of the show.

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But this is 1 area as well.
It's preparing for a conference

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where that you're going to speak
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And this has been a real
challenge for me.

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First, if you haven't figured it
out yet, if you've followed me,

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been on, been following this
show for any period of time,

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this is not something I do
often.

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I did it at my own conference.
I spoke, I've done it at a

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conference in Memphis that
Dominic Lawson had invited me to

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a couple years ago.
And that one was a little more

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tutorial style.
It was a little more the how to

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use AI because at the time it
was still pretty fresh and new.

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But this one feels really
different to me.

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It feels more Ted X talk, if you
will.

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And Ted X talks are only what,
not even 15 minutes.

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This I have to fill about 30
minutes with maybe leaving some

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room for some Q&A.
I do know this stuff, but I

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think the challenge is a
preparing it, organizing it with

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an ADHD brain and then
understanding the right ways for

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me to prepare and practice.
I have been through a three day

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intensive preparing for this
presentation.

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And you may be saying, but Mark,
it's coming up this Thursday,

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you're just now preparing sort
of.

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I had the speech done.
Basically what I first did was I

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went into ChatGPT and I just
vomited all the information out

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that I wanted to share about how
to build a community and

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specifically why a small
community builds buy in for

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growth.
And I even had it write a pseudo

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speech.
I say it's a pseudo speech

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because I had no intention of
ever using it, but it was

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something to put together and
then read out loud for me to

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have a sense of where it was
going to go, have a sense of

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what it might look like, and to
hear and feel the words on the

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page in an organized fashion.
But then I kind of left it.

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And that's, I believe, not
procrastination, I believe that

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is genuine ADHD.
It's this feeling when a lot of

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us complete a step in the
process, we get a big dopamine

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rush that reward, and then we
feel like we're done.

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And then to build back up the
motivation, build back up the

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momentum can feel really
challenging.

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And I know to people that there
are people that out there that

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don't get it, don't understand
ADHD, and it's really hard to

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explain, but it feels like a
physical block to actually

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continuing that momentum
forward.

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So I've spent the past three
days all in on this with very

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little idea of really how to
prepare.

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I will say one step that really
helped me was bringing on a

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speaking coach.
Shawn Douglas is, for those of

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you who know, Simona Costantini,
her partner, by the way,

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congratulations to them.
They are pregnant and expecting

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in March.
Sean, it does this for a living.

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He helps people speak on public
stages and he's done several, I

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think 22 Ted X talks.
He's spoken on some giant stages

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and really knows a lot about
this.

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So that was one thing that I did
to help me out.

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I'm going to pause here because
I recognize I've been talking

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for about 8 minutes now and I'm
going to ask, well, I guess I'll

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ask for initial responses, but I
do want to talk to people about

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nerves first, preparing to speak
on a big stage, and I want to

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hear about how you prepared.
And I'll share a little bit more

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after that about how I've pushed
through this kicking and

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screaming.
I think Alex wanted to chime in.

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First thing I would recommend is
try to get there early and get

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on the stage as as fast as she
can if that's what I do with

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Lucy.
And let's backtrack to people

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who may not know Alex and his
daughter Lucy got to speak there

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last year at the Pikachu.
What is it called again?

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I.
Never know how to I always.

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Forget you too, but it's the
largest stage they have and it's

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the mainstage.
But it's big.

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It's got 2 huge monitors and
what I did was we got there as

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quickly as we as early as we
could.

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I got her on the stage.
The other thing I did was I

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brought her mic cover and even
though they had their own mic, I

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put the mic cover on there so
she was as comfortable as she

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could be.
That's a good idea.

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And you know, our our talk was a
mess and it had nothing to do

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with what we did.
The slides were wrong.

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It was just a complete mess.
But you know what?

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We did it and I want to get back
there, but it was so much fun.

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And The thing is that's why I
say try to get there early and

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get your bearings of the stage.
You don't want to be the first

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time you there is when you first
get up.

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I think you have an advantage
over Lucy and I where you're not

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on a that big stage, you're on
one of the side stages.

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I'm not saying it's it's better
or worse.

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I'm just saying it's not as
intimidating in the sense of the

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room is large.
Your room is not going to be

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that large.
You know what you're talking

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about.
And once you start going, that's

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where you're going to start
flowing.

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The other thing is, and I think
Doug probably told you this,

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you're going to miss stuff.
You're going to forget stuff.

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It's OK, Just keep going.
The main thing is you got to

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have fun when you do it and you
got to take a second and say, Oh

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my God.
This is so cool, you Alex.

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Yeah, And I'll first say large
rooms.

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Small rooms.
Doesn't bother me.

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That's the part where I know
once I get on stage, I'm going

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to feel comfortable.
I still might be nervous that

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I'm going to forget things
because that's my biggest fear.

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I think here is just forgetting
the flow.

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And like you're saying, you're
going to forget.

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And one thing that you just
helped me with, I hear it all

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the time.
Nobody's going to notice if you

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mess up because only you will,
because you know your

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presentation.
They don't and that holds true.

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Like Alex says, they, you know,
they messed up.

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The slides were all messed up.
I had and I saw their talk and I

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had no idea.
You know, people can RSVP ahead

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of time to these talks.
I think I'm approaching around

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60 people so far attending and
the event hasn't even started

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yet.
It I'm excited for that and it

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doesn't make me nervous.
What makes me nervous, like I

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said, is just forgetting my
place.

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And I really the thing that
drove me nuts about my event at

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Empowered Podcasting, when I did
my opening remarks, I've gone

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back and watched only parts of
it 'cause it's hard for me to

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stomach.
Normally that's not the case

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watching back my own content.
But I hate the fact that I had

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my notes and I was leaning
heavily on them.

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And that's because although
again, I knew the sentiment, I

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knew what I wanted to say, I
didn't practice enough.

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I didn't prepare enough.
So I had to have those notes

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that I'm I don't want to do that
this year, but I will.

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I've decided as of probably
Sunday afternoon.

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I'm going to use note note
cards.

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I have to, no matter how much I
prepare, I feel like I have to

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Hey, Mark, there's nothing wrong
with that.

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It's there's nothing wrong with
having it a bullet point thing.

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Don't beat yourself up because
you're using a tool.

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It's fine.
People do it all the time.

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Thank you, Alex.
BCI think you wanted to chime

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in?
Yeah, let me also say that as

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someone who attended your last
conference, I didn't mind it at

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all being there on the front row
that you had no credits.

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I'm like, do it, do it, do it.
Keep yourself aligned and in

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charge with what you want to
make sure you hit on in your

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opening speeches.
So as a audience member, I

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didn't even care.
That was to me like I would be

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doing the same thing.
But discussing the being on a

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stage thing.
I agree with Alex, get there

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early.
And you do want to try to make

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that stage feel like your own.
And the reason why I want to

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reinforce that idea is, is
especially as someone who used

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to be in the arts, is because
the main delusion we have to

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combat sometimes.
And you may not have this issue,

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but is that we get on the stage
when there's a packed seating

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area and we suddenly feel like
we don't have our own space

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anymore.
Like we're trying to project

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against this completely
overcumbered area that no longer

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feels like it's ours.
So we have to work to remind

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ourselves we still have our own
space.

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The stage is our space.
That is the defined parameters

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that is still uniquely our own
that the audience does not get

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to cross the threshold of.
That is our space.

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They sit where they're at.
I mean, unless you're crazy

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famous, then it may not be your
space much longer.

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But assuming that's not the
situation, you get to redefine

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all the room you have so that
your speech, your presentation,

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whatever it is, whatever you're
there for, or can flow more

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naturally.
That makes a lot of sense.

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Thank you.
BC yeah, I am taking that advice

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from you, from Alex.
I will get there early and get

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my get the lay of the land,
start feeling comfortable.

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Like I said, I think the
advantage for me is I'm in my

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element when I get to go on a
stage.

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I love having a captured
audience like that, clearly, and

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this is just new territory for
me.

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I am uncomfortable.
So yeah, anything I can do to

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feel a little more comfortable,
I think will will help.

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I see Ralph, you chimed in here
in the chat.

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Do you want to share out loud
with the group?

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Absolutely.
So two things I'll share.

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And Power Podcasting is my first
podcast conference back in

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September.
And if you hadn't just mentioned

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that you had notes, it never
crossed my mind, Mark, when I

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saw you up front, I just assumed
that you had a things that you

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want to talk about and you want
to make sure you didn't forget

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anything.
I think that's very

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professional.
And the second thing I will say

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is that, you know, this is the
way you expand your horizons,

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Mark.
This is the way when you reach

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out for things you've never done
before, that's when you actually

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grow as a human being.
And I know that's uncomfortable

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and I know that feels very
nervous and I don't have the the

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anxiety type things that you
have, but this is how you grow

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and this is how you will get to
the next level.

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And here's a deal.
You can do this.

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Thank you, Ralph.
I know I can do it.

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I appreciate that encouragement.
I know I can do it.

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I'm growing and it's very
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I recognize that this is growth
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all over, God willing, it goes
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well.
I know I'm going to be super

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proud of myself.
And Michael here in the chat

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brings out the fact that my
improv training should serve me

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well it.
And he said don't be afraid to

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go off script and go with the
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Yeah, Michael, that's my, that's
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to go off script and I do that
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And then I'll call out.
Yep, I'm having an ADHD moment.

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I forget where I was going
because often times I get myself

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too sidetracked and then I
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I forget my, where I was my, I
lose my place.

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But that's why I'm going with
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I was just going to say, Mark,
you're going to laugh when I say

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this, but you're your own judge
in that because I never feel

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like you're having one of those
moments as a person that's

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listening.
So that is something you're

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bringing to the table that no
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Thank you for that.
That's helpful.

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And by the way, I do have to
shout out Jonathan.

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Jonathan has helped with my
anxiety, not just because he led

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the room yesterday for me in my
absence, but because he's

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helping me with my slides again.
As a first timer who admittedly

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waited till, I'll call it,
waited till the last minute, I

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did not have my slides prepared.
And it's one of the things

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that's giving, causing anxiety
because it's not something I'm

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used to doing.
It's not something I'm used to

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putting together and it's not
something I'm used to using when

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I'm speaking publicly.
I don't use slides here.

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Jonathan stepped up, offered to
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of slides all together and they
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So thank you Jonathan for that.
I really appreciate it.

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And you are way ahead of where I
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I finished my slides 2 minutes
before I went on stage, so you

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are good.
Don't worry about it.

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So basically, Jonathan, you have
helped me get further along in

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my slides than you were
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Interesting.
Exactly, Yeah.

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So I knew I was going to use the
entire weekend to do this, to

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prepare because my wife and my
stepdaughter, who is in town

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this week for her birthday, the
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Atlanta this weekend to go see
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So I knew I had the house to
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I knew I was going to prepare.
And in typical fashion, I sit

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down first thing in the morning.
I've had my coffee, I've had my

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breakfast.
I'm up and energized and sit

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down.
And then it's like flashback to

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growing up having to do my
homework or having to work on a

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project or having to study for
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I was kicking and screaming a
little more maturely, but I was,

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I was having the equivalent of a
temper tantrum by myself.

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Moments of just yelling out loud
with my frustration.

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I really felt at one point, say
30 minutes in of doing very

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little except complaining.
I don't think I got very far.

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And actually this I think
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This tantrum stuff I'm talking
about, it actually occurred the

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night before because I wanted to
get a head start and there was,

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I think I finally had a moment
where I just surrendered to it

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all.
It was almost like, OK, I give.

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I give.
And I think I even said out

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loud, call it a prayer, call it
calling out to the universe,

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whatever you want to whatever
you want to call it.

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I just said I give up and not
like give up on this.

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Just give up feeling this way.
What do I do?

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Because I don't know how to
really prepare for this.

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I know the overall structure,
but I just don't know how to

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prepare for this so that I can
feel comfortable on that stage,

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knowing every direction I want
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And that's where I feel like
something came through and I

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just, I got the answers.
Note that I've never done mind

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mapping before, even though it's
something that's highly

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encouraged for people in general
and especially for people that

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deal with ADHD, just never have
done it before.

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So I had no idea the quote UN
quote proper way of mind

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mapping.
I just don't know really how to

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do it.
But I just all of a sudden I was

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just, we'll call it guided to
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And so I mind mapped, you know,
it's basically writing a bubble

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in the center and then stemming
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Everything that has to do with
that main point so I basically

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created a bubble.
I called it act one of my of my

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speech of my presentation and I
started branching off and using

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my script that I had prepared
with ChatGPT week or weeks

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before just to help guide me.
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creating each step, if you will,
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It wasn't really step, but it's
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And then when I felt like that
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thing you knew I had multiple
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And that's when I kind of hit me
that, you know what, these are

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very much like note cards
because I didn't write every

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single thing down that I want to
say, just the highlights, just

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the main points for each bubble.
And I decided I can turn those

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into note cards.
So again, going back to ChatGPT.

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I literally took a picture of my
mind maps because they were all

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handwritten and I fed it to to
it one act at a time and ChatGPT

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and I created note cards.
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that now because now I know if I
lose my place, I have something

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that can help guide me.
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I feel better.
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finally, I think the ultimately
what all this anxiety is about,

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it's about fear of judgement.
Sid was pep talking me yesterday

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and was telling me that, you
know, he thinks I'm maybe I'm

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just overthinking all of this.
And I think he's right.

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And I think it's because I just
want to show up well and I want

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to make sure I'm pouring in as
much value as possible.

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And sometimes that's a good
thing in theory.

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So if you're a speaker and
you're struggling, I hope that

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some of this value, that some of
this information has been

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valuable to you in your journey
prepping maybe for your first

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time.
But I do want to get to other

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elements of Podfest.
So as I was supposed to do,

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let's shift gears and talk about
attendance and attendees and

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maybe some of the do's and
don'ts and some of the

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experiences that we've had at
these conferences to help our

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audience as they prepare for
either Pod Fest or some other

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conferences that are coming up
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2026.
So let's talk about who might

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remember their first podcasting
conference.

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You know, Ralph talked about he
just had one, so I'm sure he can

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speak to these.
ICBC wanted to chime in and Alex

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did as well.
BC I'll come back to you.

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Do you remember your first
podcast conference and was there

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anything you were really nervous
about before you went?

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure my.
Podcast.

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Specific conference was yours
back in September and something

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I learned and realized after
attending is that don't assume

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all the other attendees are
already leagues ahead of you in

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their podcasting journey.
And that's not to downgrade

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anyone who is, but it's to say
that you have no idea what point

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in anyone's journey any of the
attendees are.

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You may go in there and realize
that you are a lot further ahead

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than you realize compared to
other people that you meet.

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So don't assume that you are
going to be realizing that you

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have a bunch of setbacks.
Don't go in there assuming that

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you have nothing to offer,
because you might have a lot of

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nuanced insights that no one
else has, even those who might

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have been podcasting longer than
you have.

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Thank you BC I appreciate you
saying that.

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I think that's really important.
I think that we can come in

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especially as newer podcasters
and feel really intimidated by

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all the experience around this.
But I assure you there is

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somebody there that is that you
are much further along than they

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are.
I agree with you.

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There is something that any
everyone can offer at a

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conference like this, and I
think it's just a matter of

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embracing where you are in your
journey.

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Yeah, Ralph, let's go to you and
we'll go back to Alex in a

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moment.
Go ahead, Ralph.

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Yeah, Mark, I doubt you're going
to remember this, but the day of

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the Empower Podcasting
conference, I'm a super early

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riser.
I got up, I went to the gym and

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exercised, and then I came back
to like, the bar area where you

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were setting up.
I didn't know you from Adam.

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And here's the thing, big take
away for Pike for anybody

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attending conferences, go and
interact with people.

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So what I did was I walked up to
Mark and I said, hey, Mark, I'm

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Ralph.
He had no idea who I was.

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And I just think you've got to
do that.

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And then two minutes later, I
knew Dave Jackson from hearing

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him and seeing him, but I never
met him in person.

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And I went up here.
He gave me a big hug.

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That's the thing to do at these
conferences, Approach people, go

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introduce yourself, you know,
press the flesh with them.

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They're people just like you.
And because of that, Mark, I

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think in a lot of ways I'm being
involved in your show because I

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took the leap with this one.
I'm going to go talk to this

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guy.
I figured this guy's in charge

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of the conference.
He's a bigwig, but I'm going to

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just go out there and I'm going
to shake his hand and he's going

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to get to know me.
And that's what I did and it

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worked for me.
Thank you, Ralph.

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And yes, IA 100% remember the
moment.

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It's hard not to remember
moments like that for me when

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it's my event, just having those
moments where I'm meeting people

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one-on-one.
And yeah, that morning was I

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think the was the 1st morning
and I was setting up for the

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podcasting morning chat in the
bar lobby area.

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And so, yeah, when you
approached me, that was a very

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distinct moment of the
conference that I remember.

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And I think it's such a good
point to to say you never know

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what opportunities pop up from
just pushing through, maybe

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feeling a little uncomfortable
to approach somebody, but you

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never know what opportunities
come of that.

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And that goes for me too.
I had I, I never would have

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thought in that moment that
Ralph would have ended up being

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a regular here on the show,
contributing the way he does,

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stepping up yesterday last
minute and recording the show,

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playing the clips for Jonathan,
etcetera.

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You just never know how those
people that you meet at these

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conferences are going to change
your life, affect your life,

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make a difference.
Alex, did you want to chime in?

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Pod fest is very overwhelming,
but have a plan and try to map

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out what you want to see.
But like Ralph said, you want to

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talk to as many people as you
can because you find that

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there's so many different types
of podcasts.

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I yo, specifically there's this
one lady, she takes Taylor Swift

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songs and like breaks them down
and that's their whole podcast.

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The main thing is check out the
new tech, see what's coming up

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because they got all that stuff.
You can touch it, you can feel

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it in the in that room and just,
and just try to embrace

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everything because I think
that's the the hardest part of

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Podfest.
It's so big.

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Everybody wants to do so much,
but you have to kind of take a

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breath every so often and and
just kind of walk around and and

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enjoy what what's going on.
Yeah.

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Thank you, Alex.
Appreciate that.

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I want to go to Sid, if Sid, you
are available because I know

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that I believe Podcast Movement
this past year was your first

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podcast conference.
I know you've been to many

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conferences, so you can probably
speak to first time experiences

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and experiences in general at
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But I'm just curious if you
would share a little bit about

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00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,320
your first time experience at
Podcast Movement and maybe a tip

448
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,760
for people who are attending a
conference like Podfest for the

449
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,600
first time.
Yeah.

450
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,920
Thanks, Mark.
Good morning, everybody.

451
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,880
Yes, Podcast movement this
August was my first podcasting

452
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,480
conference that I've ever been
to.

453
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,120
I don't really have anxiety over
meeting new people because I

454
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,520
think new people all the time.
But there is a little bit of

455
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,960
nervous energy, I think when
you're when you go up an

456
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,120
escalator and you walk into a
space where you don't know

457
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:41,960
anybody.
And so I think for me, the, the

458
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,520
thing that was easy for me was
trying to look around and scan

459
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,640
the room to see who is it that I
know that maybe I've connected

460
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,000
with on LinkedIn or Instagram or
whatever it is, you know,

461
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,240
TikTok, clubhouse, whatever it
might be that I could try to

462
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,240
seek out because that's like a,
you know, a bit of an ice

463
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,680
breaker.
And ironically, the very first

464
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,360
person I saw was Paula.
And that changes the energy

465
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,120
anywhere.
You are right.

466
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,800
And so that certainly got rid of
the nerves for me.

467
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,120
But my tip is don't be afraid.
And I did this, especially at

468
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:25,320
the cocktail party.
Don't be afraid to walk up to a

469
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,040
group of people and insert
yourself into the conversation.

470
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,760
It could be really hard and but
I think if you just kind of

471
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,680
nudge your way into the
conversation, it's a great way

472
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,520
to meet people, especially in
like a cocktail setting.

473
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,040
So many people, especially when
they're by themselves, will go

474
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,840
be that wallflower and stand in
the corner and not talk to

475
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,960
anybody.
But if you can, summon your 20

476
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,200
seconds of courage and bust up
in a group of people and

477
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,760
introduce yourself and join the
conversation.

478
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,760
Stop judging me, Sid.
Jonathan, if I if I saw you at a

479
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,040
conference, I'd come hang out
with you.

480
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,720
People would probably relate to
Jonathan, those people who have

481
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,480
social anxiety.
Jonathan and I both deal with

482
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000
that sometimes.
Believe it or not, I definitely

483
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,800
do.
I often, when I'm at these

484
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,680
conferences, have to step away
for a little bit, maybe 10-15

485
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,520
minutes or so to recharge and
get away from the overwhelm of

486
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400
the social aspect of it, even
though I love it.

487
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,040
I need to refuel.
I need to recharge.

488
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,400
But don't be afraid to insert
yourself is a great tip, Sid and

489
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,240
I think that it it can be easier
than we give it credit for.

490
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,480
I think going and just kind of
walking up to a little circle of

491
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,960
people who are chatting, Likely
you're going to hear some chat

492
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,040
about podcasting.
If you're at a podcasting

493
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880
conference, it's just listen in
and one of two things will

494
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,400
happen.
Either you don't know what

495
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920
they're talking about, which is
a great opportunity to ask

496
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,200
questions, or you do what know
what they're talking about and

497
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,720
you have something to
contribute.

498
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,640
But asking questions, don't be
shy if they're talking about

499
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,120
stuff that's over your head.
It's a great way to break the

500
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,640
ice.
It's a great way to insert

501
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,400
yourself in the conversation.
OK, I'm going to go to Ashley,

502
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,880
who I think wanted to respond to
the whole idea of recharging

503
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960
your social batteries because
that's where she flashed an

504
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,160
emoji when we were talking.
So I'm making an assumption.

505
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,760
But Ashley, the floor is yours.
Good morning.

506
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,880
Good.
Morning.

507
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Thank you.
Yeah, you kind of mentioned,

508
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,320
what I was thinking is if you're
a person who's got social

509
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,320
anxiety, maybe get to the venue
a little early and see if you

510
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,000
can locate some more remote
areas that you can take refuge

511
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,160
in should you need to.
Because you may not necessarily

512
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,880
be staying at the hotel that the
conference is that I did that a

513
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,960
few years ago at Pod Fest.
I stayed at a different hotel

514
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800
and that's what I did.
I scoped out this outside

515
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,360
courtyard area that I could
escape to when I needed.

516
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,520
And I also wanted to throw it a
little tip that might make that

517
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,680
make you some money, save you
some money.

518
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,600
And that is if you fly in and
you don't want to take an Uber

519
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,600
everywhere you're going, that
shuttle around Orlando is either

520
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,080
very cheap or free sometimes.
So you can look it up in the

521
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,440
Orlando tourist website, I'm
sure you'll find it.

522
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Thank you.
Great tip, Ashley, all around.

523
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,760
I love the idea of getting there
early and scoping out the place

524
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,080
to see what areas you can kind
of escape to if needed.

525
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,080
And I should point out that Pod
Fest is going to have a whole

526
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Wellness area this year, so
you'll be able to take

527
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,120
advantage.
I believe, Don't hold me to it

528
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,800
because I don't know all the
details, but I believe they'll

529
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:48,520
be things like meditation areas,
massage areas, etcetera,

530
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360
etcetera.
It's they'll be a whole section

531
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,400
at Pod Fest where you can break
away and get some, get that

532
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,880
mental break that you may need,
however you may need it.

533
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,000
Now, some baza just came up here
as we were talking about that

534
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,360
some baza.
Did you want to talk a little

535
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440
bit about the Wellness stuff or
did you have something else you

536
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,640
wanted to add?
Good morning.

537
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,120
I was going to tell you, yes,
there is a place there you do

538
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,480
have it's called the Zen room.
Yes, you can go there if you

539
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,440
need to kind of decompress, but
it's not for the massages.

540
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,520
The massages is for the VIP, but
they do have a room that's it's

541
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,000
a quiet room that you can just
go to and hang out there and

542
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,920
just chill and relax.
Awesome.

543
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,240
Yeah, Thank you, Sambaza.
Yeah, I forgot it's called the

544
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Zen Room.
Jana Swan will be there, and I

545
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,920
think she's going to be doing
some stuff for that Zen room to

546
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920
help people feel a little more
Zen.

547
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,800
Yeah, Sid, go ahead.
So one other thing I wanted to

548
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,680
mention about, you know, meeting
people and walking into a space

549
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,760
that maybe you don't know
anybody is and you're going to

550
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,840
get in line somewhere.
Whether it's you're going to get

551
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,880
in line to get your badge,
you're going to get in line to

552
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,280
get coffee, you're going to get
in line at the bar.

553
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,560
And people can have their badges
on, especially if you're at the

554
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,760
at a Starbucks in a hotel and
you're there and pretty much

555
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,520
everybody else is there and you
see those name badges, just

556
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,880
introduce yourself to them
because likely the person in

557
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,320
line came by themselves as well.
So they come in and introduce

558
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,720
yourself and say, hey, you're
here for Podfest or you have

559
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Podfest.
Hey, I'm Sid Meadows.

560
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,240
What you know that person will
say their name.

561
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,800
Nice to meet you.
And you can start a brief little

562
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,480
conversation like what's the
name of your podcast or what

563
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,600
brought you to podcast or to
Podfest?

564
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Why did you come?
Have you been here before?

565
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,400
There's great little impromptu 5
minute conversations you can

566
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,160
have in the line to get your
coffee that might lead to

567
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,480
sitting next to that person when
you happen to show up at the

568
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520
same talk.
So, you know, talking to a

569
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,840
stranger in line at, you know,
check in at hotel or the

570
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,480
Starbucks is not necessarily a
bad thing.

571
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,480
So mom and dad would have proved
talking to strangers.

572
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,600
Great tip and it's really, it
should be relatively easy to do

573
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,679
that.
I mean, you're at a podcasting

574
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,880
convention or really whatever
convention, right?

575
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,840
But there is a theme.
Talk about the theme.

576
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,719
In this case, ask that person,
do you have a podcast?

577
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,280
What's it about?
Right?

578
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,679
That's a great way to break the
ice and start chatting.

579
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,840
Dr. Did you want to comment on
that?

580
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,159
Oh no, I'm sorry, I'm off.
I didn't mean to.

581
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,239
No problem.
I have a question for you.

582
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,360
I'll come back to you in a
second.

583
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Ashley wants to chime in and
then I have a question for you

584
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,080
that I think is very appropriate
to ask you.

585
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,880
Well, I'll explain in a minute.
Go ahead, Ashley.

586
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,239
I just kind of wanted to add on
to what Sid was saying in regard

587
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,239
to meeting people.
Make use of that Hoover app.

588
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,920
I love that thing.
There are meetups within meetups

589
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,120
on that app, and I've met people
that I'm still in communication

590
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,280
with today using that Hoover app
and the way they've got it

591
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,200
organized and laid out, you can
really find people quite easily.

592
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,840
I agree.
Yes, and we'll get into that.

593
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,120
I'll let Sid go on, but I think
one of the questions I have for

594
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,360
Dr. may lead into more about the
Hoover app.

595
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,080
I'll explain momentarily.
Sid, take it away.

596
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,360
Yes, sorry, I'm laughing at
Jonathan.

597
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Jonathan, since I keep making
these insane recommendations,

598
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,760
Yes, Jonathan, I'm going to push
you to talk to people, real live

599
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,120
people.
But I learned some things I

600
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,640
guess not too long ago, some
videos one day this week or last

601
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,960
week, I don't remember.
But you could actually, if

602
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,640
you've got AI, maybe even
ChatGPT installed on your phone,

603
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,040
you could create a folder called
Pod Fest.

604
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,800
And when you meet somebody, you
can just go talk to it and say,

605
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:55,960
I just met Mark Ronic spelled
with AK and ACAC and AK at the

606
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,720
coffee shop at the hotel.
Be sure to follow up with Mark

607
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,720
about blah, blah, blah.
So then you don't have to hear

608
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,760
about writing something down.
You can just talk to Tat GPT for

609
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,920
a second and it captures all of
your meeting notes, if you will,

610
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,800
the people that you met that you
want to follow up with.

611
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,560
And I thought, well, that's a
brilliant idea.

612
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,920
I love that.
Thank you, Sid.

613
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,120
OK, so Dr. wanted to hear from
you and the reason why I was

614
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,640
saying this is appropriate
because it kind of because I

615
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,520
know and we've talked about it
as recent as this week.

616
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,240
You are somebody with apps where
you go all in and you will you

617
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:34,240
see a new app and you're all in.
You want to go check that out,

618
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,000
you know, within reason of
course, but I'm thinking about

619
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,440
events like this.
There are so many choices, so

620
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,400
many options, much like Appsumo
offers.

621
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,000
But, and I know you've been to
Podcast Movement before, how do

622
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,520
you choose what talks to go to?
I've been to 1 before and that's

623
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,480
when it was here in Nashville.
It was, as you said, podcast

624
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,680
movement and I learned a lot
just from mistakes.

625
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,680
If I had to do everything all
over again, I would definitely

626
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,480
prioritize all the different
places that I wanted to go, the

627
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,600
talks that I wanted to hear, and
I would leave a lot more time

628
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,480
for me to network with people.
But yeah, prioritizing now I

629
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,800
could do it because I'm so much
more settled where I am in the

630
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,440
podcasting world and with my
career and stuff.

631
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Before I was super duper green,
super duper green.

632
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,680
And so that's why I just had to
everything, let me go hear that

633
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000
one, let me go.
And you know, it was a Gaylord

634
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,280
for God's sake.
And it's like they were three

635
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,040
miles apart, one talk from
another and just trying to keep

636
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,960
up.
And it was just, I wore myself

637
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,640
out because it was definitely a
mistake.

638
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,480
But if I were to go, if I were
to go back today, I would

639
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,160
definitely prioritize.
I know a lot more now than I did

640
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,840
then.
And some of those talks would

641
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,800
not be appropriate for me.
They were before they were

642
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,520
great.
Now I know more.

643
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,760
So I guess something like that.
That makes sense, and I think

644
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,520
that's good advice.
A lot of new goers want to try

645
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,800
to get to every talk they
possibly can, and that can wear

646
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,640
you out pretty quick if you're
not careful.

647
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:33,000
And you may end up at some talks
that just may not really apply

648
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,080
the way I do it.
I've basically created my own

649
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,480
filter system going back to that
Hoova app that actually brought

650
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,000
up.
That's something that Podfest

651
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,240
uses to like she was explaining
to really organize and help the

652
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,520
attendees navigate their way
through all the different

653
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,360
attendees, all the different
meetups and presentations,

654
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,720
etcetera.
What I like to do is stalk all

655
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,040
my friends.
I'm going to talk about this in

656
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,560
my presentation briefly too, but
yeah, it's really find the

657
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,680
people that you know, whether
you know them personally or you

658
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,720
follow them on social media and
that's the extent of your

659
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,160
relationship.
But go and see what others are

660
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,840
doing and go attend those talks.
See what appeals to you of

661
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,480
amongst your friends and sign
up.

662
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000
I like to do it because I also
like knowing that there's going

663
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,320
to be some people there that I
know that I can sit with.

664
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,840
It just makes me feel more
comfortable and I know that for

665
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,080
the most part, I'm going to
learn something from these

666
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,560
presentations.
So it it's more important for me

667
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,200
to just find a way to filter out
my choices than just go through

668
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,240
the entire day, each day of
options.

669
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,840
It just helps me narrow it down.
And if you don't know anybody,

670
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,480
this is where Sid's advice
really comes in handy.

671
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,400
If you can start introducing
yourself to people, follow up at

672
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,040
some point with, hey, let's
connect on the Hoover app and

673
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,040
now you can go and see what
talks that they're attending or

674
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,680
maybe they're a speaker and now
you might be interested in going

675
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,000
to see their talk.
It's really helpful.

676
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,840
Oh, some baza.
I'll come to you.

677
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,760
And then I want to go to Ralph
because I heard we briefly were

678
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,040
talking about Ashley was sharing
ways to save yourself some

679
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,000
money.
And I think Ralph has some tips

680
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,360
on the financial aspect.
Of conference going.

681
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,280
So we'll go to him in a minute
for some baza.

682
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,320
Yeah, go, go ahead.
So what I was going to say is

683
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,840
usually I start off with a smile
and then for that gets you in a

684
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,040
lot in a in places, you know,
because the smile starts

685
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,880
everything.
Everybody is in a happy mood.

686
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,800
Not everyone really, but pretty
much everyone is in a happy mood

687
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:49,680
at that .2 is the activities,
the after activities that they

688
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,680
have.
If you don't get a chance to to

689
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,480
communicate to a lot of the
people they have the like the

690
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,760
karaoke nights that they have in
the evening.

691
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,760
I think if you go to those not
not even the the karaoke stuff,

692
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,240
there's some small like lunch
and learns and small activities

693
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,400
that they have that are hosted.
I don't know if they're going to

694
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,600
do that this year, but when you
go to those small spaces, that's

695
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,800
when you meet also a lot of the
people because everybody's in a

696
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,520
cramped space and, you know, you
can't just be on your own.

697
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,840
And I think last but not least,
if you get a chance to

698
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,640
volunteer, one you get to work
at, if you're able to work in

699
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,160
one of those rooms that they
have talks, that gives you a

700
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,840
chance to kind of sit and listen
to one particular talk and not

701
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,120
have you move around and not
being aware, not being not aware

702
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,480
of where you are.
And then also that makes people

703
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,200
come to you to ask for
assistance and stuff like that.

704
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,000
So that could get conversations
going.

705
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,960
That's what I wanted to add on.
And Mark, I'll see you there.

706
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,440
Thank you all.
Sambaza, I know you RSVP to my

707
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,120
talk and I'm so glad you did.
And I'm calling it out because I

708
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,480
have some, I have some notes
that I'm going to specifically

709
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,680
be calling out, calling you out
during the speech.

710
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,040
And I'll probably be asking you
a question or two.

711
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000
So please be there.
I'll be there.

712
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,920
OK?
I'm dependent on that.

713
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,720
OK, hold.
On you got, I'm going to be

714
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:14,720
there.
Cool cool.

715
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,880
And I love his first tip.
I loved all your tips and Bazza

716
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,400
and the first tip about lead
with a smile.

717
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,800
And yeah, it might feel very
simple, but I think it does go a

718
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560
long way.
And Sambaza's got one of the

719
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,880
best smiles at Pod Fest, too.
It's addictive when Sambaza

720
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,200
gives you a a big authentic grin
like he like he has.

721
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,600
All right, let's go to Ralph.
Ralph, I know that this morning

722
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,720
before the show, you said you
wanted to talk a little bit

723
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,200
about the financial side of
conference going.

724
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,360
So what tips or thoughts do you
have on that?

725
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,200
I wanted to bring a little
racticality to this.

726
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,680
My my hat is in accounting O one
of the things if you're going to

727
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,920
be attending, keep track of
every dollar you spend.

728
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,400
I'm talking about your hotel
room, any flights, any Ubers to

729
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,880
and from the airport, any meals,
anything you've spent for that

730
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,880
trip, because you may be able to
deduct those things as long as

731
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,800
there's a clear and legitimate
business purpose.

732
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,160
And if you're a podcaster and
you're in this to either

733
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,840
generate a profit or maybe just
offset some of the income you

734
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,160
have, keep track of the
expenses.

735
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Now, a credit card statement is
not sufficient.

736
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,280
You actually need the receipt.
So what I'm going to recommend

737
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,200
you do, everybody carries a
phone with them.

738
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,360
Now whenever you spend money,
take a picture of that receipt

739
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,240
at that moment and then after
the comments you can go back and

740
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,080
assemble all that information.
So that's my practical tip of

741
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,280
the day for a conference going.
Thank you, Ralph.

742
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,080
I know there are also apps that
help you with tracking your

743
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,960
receipts and such, taking
pictures, etcetera, and I think

744
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,680
1 is called Concur.
Does that ring a bell to you,

745
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Ralph?
I'm not familiar with that one,

746
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,320
Mark, but there are a bunch of
them out there.

747
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,840
I was just trying to make
something very basic because

748
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,680
pretty much everybody can take a
picture.

749
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,560
And The thing is, when I work
with content creators, they'll

750
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,640
always say to me, well, I've got
my credit card statement, Ralph.

751
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560
No big deal.
No, the IRS actually wants a

752
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,240
picture of the receipt.
And one of the great things you

753
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:11,720
can do is write on the receipt
where you are and what the

754
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:15,080
business purpose was, because
that wins every time when I

755
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,080
present that to an auditor.
Great point.

756
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,040
And actually sticking to the
simplification of what you're,

757
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,440
you know, keeping track.
One way that I do that is when I

758
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,600
take a picture of the receipt.
This is specific to iPhone

759
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,560
users, by the way.
So please forgive me if you're

760
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,600
not.
But when I go back into my

761
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,440
photos and look at that picture
of that receipt, if I just hold

762
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,760
tap and swipe up, it gives you a
little section.

763
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,160
It gives you information about
you that that photo.

764
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,880
It tells you things like where
it was taken, what time,

765
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,800
etcetera.
But there is a little section

766
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,040
for notes and I don't know,
Ralph, if that was what you were

767
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,360
just explaining or not, but
that's how I do it.

768
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,600
As I flip it, I just swipe up
and then type in any details

769
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,000
just to make sure I don't
forget.

770
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,080
I actually go and take it one
step further and actually write

771
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,560
it.
Take a pen and write on the

772
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,080
receipt what it was, who you
were with and what the business

773
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,120
purpose was.
That way it is completely clear

774
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,600
evidence if you ever have to
present that to somebody.

775
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,840
Yeah, good tip as well.
And yes, I was right,

776
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:23,440
concurconcur.com, if you're just
interested in using an app

777
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,880
instead of the simple way, well,
the app makes it simple too, but

778
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,600
I think what Ralph is sharing
might meet might make it easier.

779
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,320
This way you don't have to learn
an app just days before you're

780
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,040
going to the conference.
Ashley, did you want to chime in

781
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,720
with something?
Yes, please.

782
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:41,720
I just wanted to offer a simple
suggestion for organizing your

783
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,280
receipts.
If you have an iPhone, before

784
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,760
you go, make a note for every
day that you're going to be

785
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,920
there and for every time you
make a purchase, like Ralph was

786
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,800
saying, take a picture of that
receipt.

787
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,240
Because now with the Apple
updates, you can actually attach

788
00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:59,640
just about anything to an Apple
Note.

789
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,840
And I do this all the time.
Take pictures of your receipts

790
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,840
and put them in your Apple Notes
and then you can out to the side

791
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,360
right write notes about that
receipt if you need to.

792
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,360
Great idea.
I see.

793
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,320
Ralph loves that too.
He put that in the chat.

794
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,640
Great idea, Ashley.
Yeah, thank you, Ashley.

795
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:21,560
Loving all these tips.
I'm curious, as we are coming

796
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,040
close to wrapping up, those of
you who are either attending Pod

797
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,680
Fest or have attended different
podcasting conventions, do you

798
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,680
go in with a goal or do you kind
of let the experience unfold

799
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,600
naturally?
I usually try to go in with at

800
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,520
least one big intention.
Last year, my intention was to

801
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:49,400
see as many talks of the people
whom I'm connected to, right?

802
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,960
So anybody in my community,
anyone that I, I'm connected to

803
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,640
outside my community, just the
people that I know, I make sure

804
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,800
to see as many of them as
possible.

805
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,760
That was my intention this last
year.

806
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,800
I'm doing that again this year,
but I'm also giving myself a

807
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,560
little bit of grace because I
think I'm going to, I think this

808
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,040
year is going to be more for me
about networking.

809
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,240
I think that's going to be my
more of my intention this year

810
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:17,960
is to have those one-on-one
meaningful conversations, as

811
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,120
many of them as I can, and
that's going to be really

812
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,960
important to me this year.
Does anyone go in with a goal

813
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,280
like let let's go to Sid for a
second.

814
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520
Sid, when you went to Podcast
movement or Empowered

815
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,200
Podcasting, did you have any
goals or do you just kind of go

816
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,520
in and see what happens?
So somewhere I have them written

817
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
down what my goals were.
I do not remember what the goals

818
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,440
were, but I also like what you
talked about, having an

819
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,960
intention.
You got to know what you want

820
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,520
out of it while you're going.
So to Ashley's point, the Notes

821
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,000
app is great to like.
What is it you want to

822
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,480
accomplish?
Why are you here?

823
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,800
Who do you want to meet?
You put everything in one place

824
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,120
and you can use the little check
box and check it off as you

825
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,560
actually get it done.
So I do set goals and intentions

826
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,400
when I go to these things, Mark.
I don't remember exactly what it

827
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,640
was for either one of the two
conferences that I've been to,

828
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,360
but that's OK.
Yes.

829
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,960
OK, Dr., Did you want to add
something?

830
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,760
Yeah.
So we've talked about this

831
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,760
before and there are two camps
when it comes to this.

832
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:26,360
But I have been loud and proud
about my affinity to business

833
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,520
cards.
I love.

834
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,600
I love a good business card.
There's something about holding

835
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,560
that business card and looking
at it and then looking back up

836
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,720
at the person who gave it to me.
And I associate the design of

837
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:41,560
the business card with the
person.

838
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,480
And I think you can put a lot of
personality into that business

839
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:53,920
card and on the back of it write
down met at Podfest birthday is

840
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,600
the same of us as mine daughter
likes soccer as like like mine

841
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,880
does or something to, you know,
spark that memory and go ahead

842
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,480
and take a picture of it with
your phone.

843
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,600
But I love coming home with a
ton of those business cards.

844
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,560
Love that.
Thank you, Dr. And I think that

845
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,400
some people feel like business
cards.

846
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,000
I was trying to look for some
old timey music, but I just

847
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,960
couldn't pull it up in time.
But some people may say, you

848
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,200
know, that's old school.
But I still see business cards

849
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,120
being passed around at these
conferences all the time.

850
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,120
I keep them on me because
sometimes people ask me for

851
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,080
them.
I find that it's easier to have

852
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:41,200
AQR code burned in on my home
screen of my phone, on my lock

853
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,160
screen Even so that this way if
somebody needs it quickly I can

854
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,080
just flash that they can take a
picture.

855
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,360
Do both.
Yeah, I think both is the safe

856
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,680
thing to do.
Because yeah, because a card is

857
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,960
a real conversation starter.
You know, you lose something in

858
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,560
the whole digital Ness.
I made a board a digital Ness of

859
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,960
it all.
That's like, I get what you're

860
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,960
saying and Ashley I hate.
Words in the morning.

861
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,280
Ashley said.
And you can take pictures of the

862
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,480
business cards that you collect
and put it in your Apple notes

863
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,240
and add notes below the card.
Yes, great, great caller there.

864
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,480
Ashley.
Sid you wanted to add something?

865
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,520
Yeah.
So I love business cards too.

866
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,840
I don't have as much of an
affinity to them as Dr. does.

867
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,800
I do think when you're giving
out a business card, the more

868
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,280
unusual it is, the better.
I remember one year I made our

869
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:42,000
team get round business cards
and they were kind of odd sized

870
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,320
and I remember this one guy
going, where am I supposed to

871
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,960
put these in?
Like in your pocket?

872
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,760
There's not a holder for a round
business card.

873
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,040
I'm like everybody we gave those
business cards out to was like,

874
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,960
oh wow, this is really cool.
It is a memorable moment.

875
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,400
Whether it's a color that
identifies with your brand for

876
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,280
like Dr. Her cards should be
purple with white writing on

877
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,080
them.
You know, I mean, something like

878
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:10,240
that that's really memorable.
But I am not a fan of the scan

879
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,840
your contact information.
Do you know why, Mark?

880
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,560
I have a guess anyway.
I think my the reason would be

881
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,520
because then later you don't
know who you spoke to and where

882
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,280
where they are on your phone.
Yes.

883
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,840
You don't remember who you
talked to and you scan 25

884
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,440
people's contact information and
how do you find who those people

885
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,600
were in your contact app and who
were they and what were you

886
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,960
supposed to do?
That's why if you do do that,

887
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,000
use ChatGPT to make a note that,
hey, I just scanned Mark's

888
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,840
business card.
He's with Ironic Media.

889
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,760
He does podcast editing.
I want to follow up with him

890
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,040
about joining the clubhouse
room, like something like that.

891
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,520
So you remember who you scan.
If you don't do the business

892
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,720
card, you do the electronics.
You got to remember it or it's

893
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:00,000
just lost.
Those digital cards, the dot

894
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,240
cards where you can do the QR
code and all that like that

895
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,280
works really well.
And I feel like they need a

896
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,160
feature to to deal with that
issue that you're sharing a

897
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,840
feature that maybe when the
person scans it sends them an

898
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,600
e-mail like, hey, great to
connect to you with you.

899
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,040
Here's all my info and it sends
you an e-mail or stores it

900
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,920
somewhere for you so that you
can go back and look at it.

901
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,520
I think that's an.
So I found.

902
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,360
This lady on TikTok.
I found this lady on TikTok mark

903
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,320
that she uses again iPhones
rule.

904
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:36,680
She uses the shortcut app in
that comes with your iPhone and

905
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,600
she creates this automation
using ChatGPT that you can set

906
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,920
it up that does exactly that.
Like you take a picture, you do

907
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,800
a shortcut, it'll draft an
e-mail for you.

908
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,240
Great to be set it all up great
to meet you.

909
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:57,200
I bought puts it in your outbox
or your drafts box so that you

910
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,560
can look at it when you get get
back to your computer.

911
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,480
So you can.
I'm still figuring out how to do

912
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,240
all this, but I just think it's
fascinating that on your phone

913
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:09,040
is such a powerful computer that
you can do things like that with

914
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,600
it.
Love.

915
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,080
That that's so cool.
I'm going to have to look into

916
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,280
that.
Although I don't know that I

917
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,280
have the brain capacity to learn
it this year, but it's something

918
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,200
I'll want to learn for the next
conference that I attend.

919
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,560
That sounds perfect.
Listen, we got a lot of great

920
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,720
tips, some of them that I was
able to write down quickly.

921
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,680
If you're a speaker, go to that
room that you're speaking early.

922
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,680
Get a lay of the land, get a
feel for it.

923
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,720
Start building up that comfort
with because once you're feeling

924
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:36,720
comfortable, you're going to
feel more confident.

925
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,720
Make sure that you are social
with others, as hard as that may

926
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,800
feel sometimes to some of us.
Push yourself a little bit to

927
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,320
talk to people and get to know
them and exchange information.

928
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,200
Don't be afraid to insert
yourself and once that social

929
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,200
battery is drained, if you're
one of those people that it

930
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,680
drains relatively quickly, take
a break.

931
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,800
Find your own space, take
advantage of rooms like the Zen

932
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,960
room.
And then as far as money saving

933
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,960
tips, take pictures of all your
receipts.

934
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Document them because you could
save yourself money by you save

935
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,840
yourself money on taxes.
These are write offs and I think

936
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,000
for me the probably the most
important take away is to make

937
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,440
sure you're setting intentions
or goals for attending an event

938
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,080
like this.
Whether you're a speaker,

939
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,360
whether you're an attendee, I
think knowing what you want

940
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,080
going in will improve your
experience tenfold.

941
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,640
And it's OK if that intention is
I'm coming in to just experience

942
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,520
the event and take it all in,
that's fine.

943
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,320
I think it's just important for
us to understand and make it

944
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,280
clear to ourselves what we want
to get out of doing something

945
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,000
like this.
We're investing money in this.

946
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,920
Yes, we've got some ways you can
save it, but you are investing

947
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,680
your time and your money into
this.

948
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,480
So make sure you know what you
want to get out of it.

949
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,160
We are back tomorrow covering
all the headlines around the

950
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,080
world of podcasting and it is
important.

951
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,600
If you saw the Golden Globes, I
want to talk about that whole

952
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:18,040
category tomorrow because I am
feeling like there's a mixed bag

953
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,280
in the industry around that
whole thing.

954
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,640
Some people loved it, some
people felt like it was a smack

955
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,560
in the face to the podcast
industry.

956
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,240
Spoiler alert, I loved it and
I'll explain more about that

957
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,320
tomorrow, but we'll cover other
headlines as well around the

958
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,880
world of podcasting.
So join us 7:00 AM Eastern live

959
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,320
on Clubhouse, YouTube, Facebook,
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960
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,720
And remember, if you can't join
us live, that's OK 'cause we put

961
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:52,160
it out as a podcast just a few
hours later.

962
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,720
So check out Podcasting Morning
chat.com For more information.

963
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,600
So until tomorrow, make it a
great day everybody take care.