381 - Is Gary Vee Right About Podcasting’s Future?

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Friday, October 3rd,
2025, and today Gary Vee drops a

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bold prediction about the future
of podcasting.

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And we're breaking it down,
debating what it means for

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creators, Co hosts, and also
what it means for the next five

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years.
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Thanks for being here.

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Good morning again, podcasting,
Morning Chat.

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Thank you so much for being
here.

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I am your host, Mark Ronick, and
on stage currently with me we

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have Dr. Faye, who I know is
having some trouble with her

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audio.
We'll talk about that in a

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second.
Nick Naul back, Sid Meadows and

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Alex Baelish.
I have a couple of housekeeping

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things I wanted to share with
you first.

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Oh, if you remember a few months
ago maybe, I was sharing about

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my cousin Dave, who is the host
of the indie podcast Dopey and

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Dopey, like I said, definitely
an indie podcast.

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It started probably, I think he
said somewhere around 6-7 years

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ago.
And it's really a podcast about

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addiction recovery.
And some of it's entertaining.

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They they'll go back and
reminisce with their guests or

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the host himself.
Dave will reminisce, to put it

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lightly, and talk about the
crazy stuff that they did when

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they were addicted to drugs,
alcohol, etcetera.

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But it's become way more than
that now.

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It's really become a resource, a
home for people who have

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recovered or are, I guess are in
recovery.

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And he was covered in Rolling
Stone.

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Rolling Stone magazine did an
article on Dave and Dopey.

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So I just wanted to call it out.
And if you want to hear more,

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when we talked about them, it
was when Instagram shut down

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their site because they thought
Instagram thought it was

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inappropriate and they were
promoting drugs and alcohol.

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We asked everyone to rally
behind them and help fight the

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the wrongful removal.
And a day later they ended up

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getting back.
And I joke because I don't know

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really if we had a lot to do
with that.

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But nonetheless, we did support
a fellow indie podcaster and he

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is just killing it.
Rolling Stone magazine covering

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his podcast.
He remains independent.

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He doesn't have, he's not under
any big umbrella, not a

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wandering or Spotify or anything
like that.

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He's doing it all on his own.
And I just remember him coming

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to me with like, let's say
probably after their first year,

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asking me for help, asking me
for guidance.

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And man, has he, has he
skyrocketed since then.

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It's a cool story and it's
motivating for me as an

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independent podcaster.
And I hope for you too, that

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any, any of us can do this.
It's just a matter of

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persistence, consistency, and
passion.

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And Dave has all of those.
So check out that article.

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We'll put that in the show notes
as well.

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And let's see.
Also wanted to share with you, I

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will be on Chatter at 8:00 AM
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Chatter, I will be joining every
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So come check me out over there.
I will also put that in the chat

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as well.
All right.

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So today I know that we have, we
talked yesterday about deeming

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Thursdays as our clip day where
we'll play clips from podcasters

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or about podcasting and we'll
talk about them.

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And we did that yesterday.
But I had another clip that I

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thought I really just wanted to
play today.

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So we're going to get to it now.
And it's Gary Vee, and he's on a

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podcast.
It's Jamie Kern, and he's giving

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his prediction.
She asks him about the future of

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podcasting.
Let me play it for you and then

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we'll talk about it.
What do you think the future of

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podcasts are?
I think much of the same other

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than to your point, like you and
I will start shows with Co hosts

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that don't exist, that are our
intellectual property.

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Like you'll start your version
of The View and there'll be

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three other ladies and they're
not real and you own their

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intellectual property and one of
them may become more famous than

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you and that person becomes your
Mickey Mouse.

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You, the entrepreneur will own
Sarah Johnson, your Co host.

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She gets bigger than even you
and you're doing brand deals and

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book deals.
How wild is that?

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I believe every human is now
entering the intellectual

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property business, just like I
predicted in 2006 seven, that

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everybody would have a social
media account and I got laughed

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out of the room.
I believe every human is now in

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the intellectual property
business.

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And there you go.
What?

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So this one actually Sid sent to
me.

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And I actually did happen to
listen to part one of two of

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Jamie Kern Lima's show.
I heard all of that one with

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Gary chatting and yeah, it's
Sid.

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Let's talk a little bit, if you
don't mind, what say you, what

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inspired you to share this with
me and will sharing it with the

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room?
Good morning everybody.

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So anytime I hear anything like
the future of podcasting, I pay

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attention because I'm a
podcaster obviously and I just

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thought wow, this is a really
big statement here.

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We talked a lot about AI.
That's why I shared it with you

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like wow, this is a really big
statement.

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Could be a really great
conversation.

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I think you got to go watch the
TikTok video because when he

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says what he thinks the future
of podcasting is, the camera

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pans to her.
And you just got to see her

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facial expression because it's
it's kind of funny, her facial

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expression when she responds to
him.

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But I just thought it was really
interesting.

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And I don't know that he's right
or wrong.

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I mean, certainly he is somebody
that is very bold in making

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predictions and statements about
things.

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So I don't know that he's wrong,
but I also don't know that he's

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right.
And that's why I thought it was

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just be really interesting
conversation to chat about.

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Yeah, I agree with you.
And does anyone have any initial

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thoughts on this on that clip or
shall I get?

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Yeah, Nick wants to chime in
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Go ahead.
Nick, good morning to you.

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What are your thoughts on Gary
VS prediction?

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I think it's really interesting,
especially Renee the other day

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brought the Tilly Norwood name
into the conversation.

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And that's exactly what's
happening there.

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This for anyone who's not
familiar, Tilly Norwood is

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essentially like an AI actress.
And there are big Hollywood

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studios that are wanting to sign
Tilly Norwood for their

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projects, be in the movies and
all that.

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And I, I think with that
actually happening, that to me

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makes what Gary Vee is talking
about a lot more like concrete.

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They're going to see the subsets
of the Tilly Norwood situation

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and try to find ways to do it
themselves.

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If, if he involved, the people
are willing to pay it.

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We're going to try to find ways
to get a piece of the pie.

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Yeah, I hear you.
And it what a weird thing like

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it's an interesting prediction
because he didn't necessarily

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predict that all podcasts were
going to be hosted by AI

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characters, right.
He's predicting that we'll

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create this character, maybe
like a Co host and interact with

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that that host, that Co host.
And you know, as he was

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predicting the Co host could
very well then become more

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popular than you.
And and much like that.

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Tilly, what's the last name
again?

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I keep forgetting Tilly Norwood.
Tilly Norwood.

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Yeah.
So you might have another Tilly

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Norwood on your hands that you
own.

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And so Nick, what would you do?
What let's say you that

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happened.
Let's say you did that.

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You created your own Co host and
it got really popular and people

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wanted to, you know, talent
agents and where whoever else

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wants to use that character or
interview that character or

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however, and it looks like it
could end up being almost a

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revenue stream for you.
How do you feel about that?

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Would you take advantage of it?
Or you know, being considering

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the conversations we've had in
the past, some people don't like

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the idea of these AI generated
personalities.

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So where would you fall in this?
I'm all for experimenting with

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it as the creators and as the
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I guess it sounds weird because
it's almost like a person, but

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it's not a person which feels
weird owning this like AI

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identity.
I would probably have to set

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some really strict ground rules
for what I would be willing to

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do.
I would want to be completely

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upfront with any anybody.
Like if I had this AI person

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then wanted to interview it.
Like I would basically let the

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podcast or whoever know.
Like we are going to make it

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known that this is AI.
In no way do I want to trick

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people into thinking that this
is a real person.

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I guess that.
Looks and sounds and.

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Talks like a real person, but
this is AI generated.

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Like I would want to be so
upfront about that and not try

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to deceive or truly one of the
thinking that it was otherwise.

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Like that's just an example.
I I feel like there's a lot more

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that you could probably explore,
but I feel like you'd have to

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have some pretty strict ground
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Think of how many people get
cancelled just on their own and

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then you're going to send an AI
to go kind of rogue that's tied

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to your name and it says the
wrong thing.

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And now people are coming at you
because you're AI decided to say

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something that's inappropriate
or I don't know.

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It's a interesting thing to.
Yeah, it's an interesting new

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responsibility as a creator that
you'd carry the weight of.

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It feels almost like now you've
got, it's like a kid, it's like

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having a child and you have to
manage and and make sure the

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child is behaving appropriately.
Dr. Did you want to respond

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before we go to Alex?
Yeah.

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We're really kind of getting
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realm.
Mary Shelley was the author of

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Frankenstein and it really feels
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I mean, this is something that
was created by man.

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And I mean, if you think about
it, from the time that we heard

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about LM and just this tiny bit
of time, it has improved.

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And I mean, it's gotten the
size, it's gotten all those

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humanistic kind of
idiosyncrasies, and it's just

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very frightening.
It's very interesting, but a

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little frightening to me.
And we're getting into

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Frankenstein kind of territory.
That's very true.

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It there is some similarities to
that and I can't help but to

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think when if we start, if we
get to the point, if and when we

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get to the point where we can in
fact create these Co hosts.

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I wonder if this helps entry
into podcasting for some people

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who are maybe a little hesitant
to get started.

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They don't want to talk, quote,
UN quote, talk to themselves,

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right?
Just solo show.

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But they can't find a human Co
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guests or enough guests.
So they create this character

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that they can actually have
conversations with.

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I mean that I would say could be
an advantage, particularly for

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the entry level podcasters.
Think it's kind of interesting

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because on social media, like
I've noticed for years, like

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there are a lot of accounts
where people want to maintain

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their privacy.
They don't want anyone to

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actually know who they are, but
they still want to contribute

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and be a part of the
conversation.

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So they go under an alias or
fake name, fake persona,

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whatever.
And this this kind of gives them

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the opportunity to do that just
through like another thing.

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I don't even I don't want to
call it person that's.

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That's.
What it feels like, it's like

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another person.
Personality.

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Personality, yeah, they can kind
of shine through another

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personality, and my mind just
goes in a ton of different

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directions with this.
Yeah, me too.

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And Alex, I know you wanted to
chime in.

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What are your thoughts?
This scares me in a big way.

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And I'm not trying to say the
robots are taking over, but the

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robots are going to take over.
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creators that can figure this
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end up making the most money.
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politically charged environment
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polarizing in a lot of ways with
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getting worse with this type of
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The problem is instead of making
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it might be less because once
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that's where you're going to.
The message is already being

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written, so I think it's
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super scary.
Agreed, it is a little scary and

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I'm going to go to Yvonne
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Alex was sharing.
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then we're going to check in
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What say you?
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Good morning boy.
This is heavy duty stuff.

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I'll tell you.
What frightens me about it is

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not being able to trust what's
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how speaking to what Alex is
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I've seen things posted on
social media, politically

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charged things with a lack of
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Let's just say that's one way.
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whole other level of how do you
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been that person?
Is that ever actually said what

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they seem to be saying?
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in how how can you trust
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talking about, not quite exactly
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and still worth a conversation.
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of us is can we trust what we're
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something that he thinks is
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deceitful.
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be used almost like another tool
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be very upfront about.
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trying to say is it's just going
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for a lot of podcasters and
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fake characters, these AI
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hosting a show.
It won't be necessarily to try

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to trick people.
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absolutely be tricky and
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But Mark, I think that the
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audience shares her character
Pam, which is amazing and check

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it out.
But that's not the problem.

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The problem is, as we've all
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like this, I mean, even AI
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does it do?
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information that it's given.
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given is skewed, how are you
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about anything?
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their quote UN quote due
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the waters are already muddy,
how are you ever supposed to

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know what any truth is?
Walter Cronkite wasn't the, you

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know, he wasn't, he was the same
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He skewed the news.
But it's a slippery slope.

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Yeah, you're right.
It does create when you're

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pulling information that's
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Yeah, it could be a little.
How can you really trust the

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information the AI is spitting
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Sean has joined us on stage as

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well.
And I also want to get to her

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question that she put in the
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We'll see what else she wants to
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Sid, good morning again.
What do you want to add to all

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this?
So I have two really quick

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The first one, Alex and Yvonne,

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are on point.
The world of the news feeds are

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full of lies and misinformation
and people trying to make a a

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muck of things that don't need
to make a muck of.

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And we, it's incumbent upon us
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determine what we believe is
real and not real and to consume

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or not to consume.
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using an AI, it's your
responsibility as the creator to

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ensure that your AI tool is
being used the right way and is

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sharing the right information.
And so I think that we have to

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think about that if you're going
to go down this path, that

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you're curating something that's
going to be sharing the right

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information and, you know, facts
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But at the podcasting conference
this past weekend, I attended a

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talk with Annika Jackson.
Annika is a professor, I believe

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Market University of Southern
California, and she has a

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master's degree in AI and she
talked about several tools.

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And one of the tools that she
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in the week, but I think it's
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She used to reference a tool
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tool that you can use to clone
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you look like, your tone of
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all that kind of stuff.
But also you can clone it with

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your information, with your
intellectual property, as Gary

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Vee talks about in the video.
I think this is really powerful.

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And the way she uses it is like
she's uploaded all the stuff

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that she teaches and all the
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this database.
And she tells her students to

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actually go to her AI tool and
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questions answered, then to come

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to her, but go to the AI tool
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And I think that's just like
fascinating and wondering like

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you can monetize it, you can
charge for it.

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So you think about everybody
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property, the things that you
teach and things you talk about,

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how you could use that to help.
Honestly, give you more time,

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share your word more, put your
teachings out there more.

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really interesting thing to

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consider.
And this could be something like

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that.
Imagine Mark creating a podcast

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Co host for you to do a show
with you about podcasting that

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has all the knowledge that you
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Hey, hey, hold on.
Hold on you.

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Feeling threatened but.
There is all the.

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A little bit, yeah.
But think about it has all the

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knowledge that you have and then
you have a conversation with

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that person and then you're
really sharing the right

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information, tidbits and
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And I, I think this is all
fascinating.

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I actually have a call with her
scheduled in early November

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because she's going to Vietnam
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And I want to talk more about
this.

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I want to talk more about how
she's using it and the benefits

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of it.
Also bit of the scary side of

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it.
I'm going to ask her actually to

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come on to my podcast to talk
about, because I see this also

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as a really powerful business
case that if you have a

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business, how you could make
this person a not necessarily

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your image and your likeness,
but someone, you know, different

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one, but you could make this a
automated customer service

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agent.
The people at their leisure

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could go ask a question and get
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could be really interesting.

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And I'm just, I've never heard
of this and I was just

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fascinated by this conversation.
And I think that, you know, that

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potentially could be an AI
podcast host that is with you

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that has your knowledge.
So I'm rambling now.

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But anyways, I thought it was
important to bring up what she

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talked about.
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Thank you for bringing her up.
Annika's really such a smart and

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cool person and was great to
have her speaking on that at the

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Empowered Podcasting Conference.
And just a little side note, she

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has discussed with me she'd like
to try to do an empowered

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podcasting West in the near
future and she wants obviously

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wants our help with that.
So to be continued there as

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well.
Really can't wait to hear more.

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Sid and I will certainly be
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whenever you guys arrange that.
That sounds fascinating.

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Go ahead, Nick.
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Think that this is.
Really interesting.

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And I'm, I'm excited that since
excited about it because I feel

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like we've had some of these
conversations when we talked

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about, hey, Jen and some of the
stuff that I was doing with the

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AI briefing where we had Nick,
the AI host was on screen

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talking to people.
And this kind of technology

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existed for a while.
And I feel like at that time, it

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was very much pushed back from
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Like we had discussions about
should, you should be really

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like, what is this going to do?
I just think the exposure to AI

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and seeing how the technology
advanced, like, it's cool to

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seek and getting more
comfortable with it and finding

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ways that they can incorporate
it into their businesses.

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And yeah, Annika's talk like it
was so cool to see how she's

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using AI in almost every aspect
of her business and the AI

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Avatar V1 that allows her to
essentially work while she's not

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working, just incredibly
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Her business owner.
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And I am now.
I'm so fascinated and just you

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guys are reminding me of how
valuable her talk was that I

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think we got to try to get her
on the show at some point.

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Probably would have to be a
one-on-one, because if she's

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West Coast, I don't.
I'm guessing she's not going to

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want to join us at 4:00 in the
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Maybe I'm wrong about that.
By the either way, one way or

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another, we're going to have to
get her on to talk more about

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it.
AI have a talk but I was still

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on it.
There you go.

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Good call.
Good call.

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Why didn't I think of that?
Mishawn, good morning to you.

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Thank you for your patience.
What did you want to add?

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Hey, good morning, Mark.
I wanted to add that one thing

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I'm noticing.
I mean, we're all using AI now.

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That's just a given.
But one thing I am noticing is

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that in terms of education and
more elite schools, K through 12

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schools, those kids are not
being sold AI.

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They're still doing real life
experiences because that is the

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kind of stuff that's going to
teach them how to rule the

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world.
And in terms of our podcast, we

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are moving into doing live more
live, one-on-one face, in person

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kind of things to enhance our
podcast.

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We've just talked with a kind of
a tea room place who says, yeah,

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we'll host your one on ones,
your in person events here in

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our restaurant Cafe.
And we are talking about doing

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tours since we're in DC and then
having tea, I mean, as part of

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like a 250th anniversary of the
Declaration of Independence next

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year.
So I guess all that I'm saying

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is that AI is being sold to the
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But in terms of that 1%, it's
still that in person

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experiences, experience that
they're being trained on.

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And I think we should all be
aware of that and not throw it

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all out, just somehow hybrid it
in some way with real life

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experiences, real life.
And those are the things you

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really remember.
Mishawn, one thing that you hit

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on, you kind of predict made a
prediction there in, in some

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ways, I'll thread the needle
here because I think live

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broadcasting, live streaming is
going to become even more

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popular as the AI technology
tries to replace human beings.

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Because that will be 1 area, at
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area that I think we will be
able to identify like this is a

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person, right?
That we know this is a person

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cuz they're going live.
And maybe they'll have to be

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some guardrails around that
where the platforms are somehow

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be able to monitor and make sure
that it is actually a human

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doing the live.
Cuz I'm sure the technology will

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catch up and people will
broadcast or stream AI

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characters live.
But for the time being, I do

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think lives are going to be more
of a thing because it will, it

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will offer that human element,
that human touch and human

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interaction.
So one of my predictions is, is

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that live streaming in
podcasting is going to become

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much more relevant and popular.
I have a question.

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Go ahead, Dr. It was you.
Go ahead.

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One of the things that makes up
my personality is sarcasm.

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I am heavily sarcastic.
I don't think that AI has really

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picked up on that yet, have
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No, AI does not have a great
sense of humor.

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00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,680
And by the way, good morning to
producer Ashley, who's joined us

453
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,320
on stage.
I and say it again now, Dr.

454
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,360
'cause I distracted myself.
Just give me the nugget so I can

455
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,120
respond.
So one of the things that makes

456
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,200
up my personality.
Is the humor the humor?

457
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,720
Yes, sarcasm.
I'm just a smart ass bitch.

458
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,480
Yeah, yeah.
I know behind the scenes you

459
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,680
have an AI that you've built
that is you asked it to be sassy

460
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,080
in its answers and you share
those responses and they are

461
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,240
sassy.
But when it comes to humor, you

462
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,960
know, I, I attempted to with my
opening remarks, I ran my speech

463
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,040
through AI and asked it to try
to add humor to some of it.

464
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,880
And I was more specific than
that with my prompt, but I'm

465
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,320
just giving you the general
idea.

466
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,800
And it really didn't do a great
job.

467
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760
I ended up collaborating a
little bit with Jeff Dwoskin,

468
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,320
who joins us here regularly, who
is a stand up comedy comedian to

469
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,120
see what he could do.
And a couple of his jokes I did

470
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:11,160
end up using, but the ones that
ChatGPT came up with, I just, I

471
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800
couldn't use.
They just were it was like bad,

472
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,440
it was genuinely bad dad jokes,
like it just couldn't really

473
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,360
figure it out.
So I think, I think we're a

474
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:24,000
little bit of ways away because
when we think about some of the

475
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,640
advances, since, you know, say
when Nick and I had launched

476
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:33,640
next Gen. podcaster right after
the, the rise of GPTI think that

477
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,440
we've seen advances in video,
in, in audio with AI and in a

478
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,440
lot of other areas too.
But we have not seen it advance

479
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,680
when it comes to its sense of
humor.

480
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,200
So I my guess is that's going to
take a little time.

481
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,640
Yeah, and this is actually what
your friend went through when he

482
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,520
got banned, when he got his
whole show banned because he

483
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,760
said, you know, AI has not
gotten a sense of sarcasm yet.

484
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200
Do you remember?
Yeah, That was yeah, because he

485
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,640
was basically acknowledging that
the algorithm just shut him down

486
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,400
because it made some assumptions
based on its programming and

487
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,320
that were false assumptions.
Nick, did you want to respond?

488
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,760
And then I want to go to Amanda
Yoa.

489
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,040
Regards to this conversation, I
agree like the personality piece

490
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,880
of it isn't going to shine
through the AI and the way I'm

491
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,160
looking at it like Dr. Your
sarcasm is an attractor.

492
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,960
Like it's what brings people in.
People feel safe.

493
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,120
Like I doubt anyone is really
going to have a conversation

494
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,840
with Dr. the AI clone before
they've either consumed Dr. the

495
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160
person's content or had
conversations with.

496
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,360
Consumed me brother.
So I, I feel like in a way

497
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,720
you're going to build that trust
with yourself.

498
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,920
And then once that trust is
built, people might be like,

499
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,920
hey, I have a question.
I can't get in touch with VR

500
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,320
right now, so I'm going to ask
vRS clone and they can get their

501
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,680
answers solved.
And I think that kind of takes

502
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,160
away from that well.
It's.

503
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Leaving me out of the equation
kind of thing.

504
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,840
It it does for the moment, but
not in the grand scheme of

505
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520
things, because there's a reason
someone's wanting to talk to

506
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360
your clone, not just out of
randomness.

507
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,080
I'm going through a part of
going through a part of life.

508
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Now with that, I am up at 3:00
in the morning, 8:00 in the

509
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,640
morning, three in the seven in
the morning.

510
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,920
I mean, I'm up all hours so
anyone can reach me.

511
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,440
I feel that DRI.
I'm having a similar sleep

512
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,200
schedule myself.
Amanda yoa, thank you for your

513
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120
patience.
Where do you fall in this whole

514
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,480
conversation?
I feel like if you use it right,

515
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,760
you can definitely use it to
your advantage, right?

516
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,680
Like there's always a an extreme
to everything.

517
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,840
So it's kind of like knowing
your audience and what they

518
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,960
would want for you from you.
For me, right away I thought of

519
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,280
promo.
I thought all the funny things I

520
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,320
could do to the situations I
could put myself to promote my

521
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,440
show, right?
And I think once people see that

522
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,640
creativity and humor from me
knowing I was the creator behind

523
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,560
that, even though it may not
have been me, say, for instance,

524
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,920
I'm talking about, you know, a
bull riding experience on my

525
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,200
podcast.
And then I do an AI video of me

526
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,840
riding a bull saying TuneIn this
Friday where I talk about, you

527
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,000
know, whatever.
I think people would appreciate

528
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,920
seeing that and it would give
them more of incentive to tune

529
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,600
in and hear the entire story.
So like someone already

530
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520
mentioned.
I think this is going to drive

531
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,280
live streaming extremely.
It just depends on how you use

532
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,160
it and how you angle it.
But for me, I think promo would

533
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,920
be the best way to use that for
myself and my community.

534
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Yeah, Thank you, Amanda.
Agreed.

535
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,200
I mean, sometimes it's it's what
we choose to focus on, right?

536
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,720
Like, yeah, we can focus on all
the bad things that it could

537
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,280
lead to using this kind of
technology, but there are a lot

538
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,760
of good things around it too.
And I think that that's really

539
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,200
it applies to any technology.
And a lot of new technology

540
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,120
years ago that came out, there
were similar types of

541
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,560
conversations, believe it or
not.

542
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,280
Now we look back at it and we
probably would laugh at it, but

543
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,840
even the invention of the
television, there were people

544
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,200
kind of panicked about it
melting our minds.

545
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,960
And you know, and here we are
still and if anything, making

546
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,640
some of the most technological
advancements in history, right?

547
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,160
So I don't think our minds
melted.

548
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,200
I definitely think there are
some drawbacks to TV and and

549
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,480
screen time, right?
But overall, we can focus on the

550
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,640
negative of if we choose.
But I think if we also focus on

551
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,720
the positive, I think there's a
lot we can learn and gain and

552
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880
grow with that kind of
technology.

553
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,200
Sid, did you want to chime in?
Before I say what I'm going to

554
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,760
say to Dr. specifically, I just
need to put on record that I do

555
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:01,000
expect affiliate commissions
from this Dr. So this is a point

556
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680
everybody heard it, it's in
she's agreed.

557
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,440
And so I.
Don't know that I heard her

558
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360
agree.
That that she's acknowledging

559
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,280
the laughter.
Yeah, but.

560
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,080
DRI Think about what you're
trying to do with your podcast

561
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,920
and imagine if on your website
you had ADR avatar that's asked

562
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,800
the podcast coach and you upload
all your content and you charge

563
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,840
$5 a month for access to ask the
podcast coach and any and you

564
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,480
promoted on your show that 24/7
you have access to me and my

565
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,400
knowledge and ask the podcast
coach and I have a question and

566
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,680
I'm stumped about how to do
something.

567
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:44,320
I can go and ask you in your AI
avatar because I'm paying the $5

568
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,160
or $25.00 a month or whatever it
is.

569
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,560
And then I get my answer and I'm
getting my answer from a real

570
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,760
podcast coach, not something
that's just, you know, I'm not

571
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,320
asking chat CPT who may or may
not know how to edit something

572
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,400
into script, right, or whatever
it might be.

573
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,240
You can take the content you're
creating and turn it into a

574
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
monetization string, which I
think is fascinating to

575
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,000
understand him really how to use
this.

576
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,719
So again, so we are in agreement
that I, if you do this, that I

577
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,520
get a feel of it, OK.
You get a dollar in perpetuity

578
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,480
for every.
Every question for every

579
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,679
question I asked.
Every.

580
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,639
OK, I'm liking that.
I'm liking that.

581
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,159
OK, let's go.
I'm gonna promote it.

582
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,719
Let's go.
I learned the word perpetuity

583
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:29,560
from Shark Tank so.
Admittedly, I may have as well

584
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,080
years ago.
Yes, that's funny.

585
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,280
Yvonne, I saw you wanted to
chime in.

586
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,400
Go ahead.
This idea of making yourself

587
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,840
available as an AI, you know,
coach to to answer questions

588
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,639
from people.
It brought up an interesting

589
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,600
question for me, which is, OK,
so you've downloaded everything

590
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,040
that you can think of that, you
know, as an expert on some

591
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,679
topic.
And what if somebody comes in

592
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,320
and asks something that has a
nuance that you didn't get, you

593
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,640
didn't think about before the
question got asked?

594
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,560
How do you put a guardrail on,
you know, whether or not your AI

595
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:16,600
is just going to make something
up or actually say, hey, you

596
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,160
know what?
Let me think about that and get

597
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,640
back to you.
Let me run this in front of the

598
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,480
real Dr. Just an interesting
question.

599
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Yeah.
And I have a kind of some

600
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,040
thoughts formulating and I'm
curious, Nick, do you have any

601
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,520
thoughts around that?
Obviously AI is not completely

602
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,840
predictable, so it is very much
possible.

603
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,880
I mean you see with every AI
tool it says this is AI

604
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,600
generated.
They might not be 100% correct.

605
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,360
Like make sure you Fact Check.
But that said, I.

606
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,880
Feel like when Annika was
talking about how she uses the

607
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:58,200
AI, her avatar it basically as
it goes on a call it somehow, I

608
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,200
don't know, she feeds it through
other AI to like analyse

609
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,600
transcripts or what it is.
But if you're having a

610
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,160
conversation with her avatar and
you want to then have an in

611
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,840
person call with her, you can
tell the AI that and then she

612
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,000
gets notified that hey, they
want to set up a call or it sets

613
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,880
it up for her or however it's.
Working so there is some logic

614
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,760
built into it, at least how she
has her set up.

615
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,880
So I would imagine you could say
some kind of guardrail that says

616
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,400
like, if you can't find the
answer within this set of

617
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,400
information or this content that
I've given you, don't go making

618
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560
up your own answer.
Like tell them hey.

619
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,480
This is probably a better.
Question for the really Vaughn,

620
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,200
not me because I don't feel I
don't fully know.

621
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,280
And again, so it's probably not
going to be 100% on the spot

622
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,760
every time.
It might just make up stuff

623
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,400
randomly, but that would be a
way to like help alleviate some

624
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,560
of that.
So it's important to know about

625
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,200
what Annika talked about was
that the information that AI is

626
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,000
sharing is what she has
uploaded.

627
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,320
It's not thinking on its own.
It's not live on the Internet.

628
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,800
It's not searching.
It's only using the content that

629
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,400
she has uploaded.
So you can upload content you

630
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,160
create.
You could upload news articles

631
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,560
about our research articles or
white papers about your topic

632
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960
that maybe go deeper into your
answer, but it's not live.

633
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,720
It's not thinking on its own
like ChatGPT does.

634
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,880
It's only pulling from the
information that you have put

635
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,400
into it.
So I think to Vaughn's point, if

636
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,680
it can't answer it, you could
programming in a way that it

637
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480
says, hey, I don't have the
answer to this, but here's the

638
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,120
link to schedule a 15 minute
call with coach Sid or coach

639
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,720
Mark or whatever so that you can
get a more details and get get a

640
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,520
more get a better answer to this
particular question.

641
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,160
The AI is obviously quite smart
and you could do that.

642
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,800
And on top of that, these LLMS,
they learn from the content you

643
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,880
feed it, and it might end up
being able to give you an answer

644
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,360
based on all of the other
information it's learned.

645
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,240
And it could say, I don't know
the answer to this question, but

646
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,160
here's what I think the answer
is.

647
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,320
And then it could say, but you
know, please consult Annika

648
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,720
Jackson for a more thorough or
more accurate answer, something

649
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,960
like that.
It may, it may be smart enough.

650
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,680
It should be smart enough to be
able to give an educated answer,

651
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,880
but I think it would need that
guardrail like Yvonne's talking

652
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,000
about.
I know there are several people

653
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,520
that want to chime in and Janae
has joined us on stage.

654
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,680
I want to hear from him.
So I'm going to go to him first

655
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,640
and then I'm going to check the
time and then I'll share where

656
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,200
we're going to go from there.
Go ahead, Janae.

657
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,480
Good morning.
Good morning.

658
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,400
Good morning, AI.
Our personality on the Internet

659
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,800
live as from other people.
I mean, what could go wrong,

660
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,760
right?
But in the clip where Jeremy's

661
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,800
sharing, yeah, you know, we are
in this in the world.

662
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:57,000
We are in space where IP or
intellectual property is more

663
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,720
it's, it has more power than it
ever before.

664
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,800
And I really want everyone to
pay attention to what IP is.

665
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,000
And if you haven't, if you have
a little bit of idea of what IP

666
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,400
is, just go and research more.
There's an amazing book.

667
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,160
You are an IP company.
And I think I mentioned this

668
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,800
previously again, what you
write, what you create, your

669
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,920
copyright, your trademarks up,
that is your property and that

670
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,280
can grow its own life.
Just like Mickey Mouse, just

671
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,040
like Iron Man, just like Spider
Man, These are all intellectual

672
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,240
properties that are owned by
larger companies and that could

673
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,960
be your thing.
So apart from our own likeness

674
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,600
being somebody that's an AI,
what if you created a specific

675
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,600
IP of your knowledge base that
can then answer question?

676
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,760
Doesn't have to be you, you can
give it a name.

677
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,560
And I've done something similar.
So on Instagram, you can do

678
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,440
create an AI bot that answers on
your behalf and you can step in

679
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,520
at any time.
Now it only activates one people

680
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,960
that you are not following are
interacting with you and it's

681
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,840
asking for questions.
So again I said, hey, this is

682
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Janae AI.
That can answer your questions

683
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,880
based on what you might know,
but he can enter at any point in

684
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,280
the conversation.
And there's a lot of systems

685
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:27,120
like that that are enabling you
to interact as well as give it

686
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,640
access to.
So that's my take on it.

687
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:35,040
And yes, there Delphi's, the AI
system is really powerful.

688
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,120
We had in one of the
masterminds, a professor from

689
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,360
Harvard came in and he said,
I've built my little AI, I've

690
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,160
fed it millions of books that
are, you know, articles that

691
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,400
he's written, books that he's
written into the system.

692
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,600
So you can technically talk to
that person and get answers just

693
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,440
like what Anika Jackson has
done.

694
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,440
So professors and you know,
people far up in the university

695
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,880
area are using Delphi system
because it has those guard

696
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,120
guardrails, has those
educational material that

697
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,640
they've written and then can be
the intercept between them and

698
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,840
the audience that might be able
to reach them.

699
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Thank you.
Yeah, Thank you, Janae.

700
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,000
And I'm going to keep it moving
because Billy's joined us and I

701
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,840
want to hear from him as well.
And then we're diving into wins

702
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,600
from our past week.
So please stay on stage if you

703
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,360
are on stage with us because we
want to hear your wins as well.

704
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,360
Billy, good morning.
What's your take on this whole

705
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,000
topic of AI Co hosts, AI
cloning, etcetera?

706
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:43,040
Well, I'm going to be honest, at
first I was like, I don't care.

707
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,560
I can't use it with Amazon.
I'm out of the picture.

708
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,680
And then I went to ecamps
creator camp this week and I met

709
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,320
this older lady who has a pretty
decent YouTube channel already

710
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,760
in English.
And then she said, hey, check

711
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,720
this out.
I created a Spanish channel

712
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:06,200
where I have my own AI avatar.
I load up my video, it replaces

713
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,880
my face as long as I don't hold
anything in front of it in lines

714
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,320
my mouth up to speak Spanish.
And I'm like, huh, So I'm

715
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:18,000
watching this and her Spanish
speaking channel is crushing it

716
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,200
compared to her English speaking
channel.

717
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,960
And I was just blown away.
I mean, I've seen the

718
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,200
technology, but I guess I've
never really seen it in action.

719
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,160
There's so many thoughts running
through my mind because, you

720
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,600
know, of course, I live in a
place that speaks primarily

721
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Spanish.
So I'm thinking and even on a

722
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,480
very basic explainer video of
what I do and why I have all

723
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,240
these products for sale and you
know, everything else, it might

724
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:47,080
just be a video I put on a sales
page or product page for

725
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Facebook.
But then, you know, I saw her

726
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,720
YouTube channel, not only all
the insurance and outs and

727
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,400
regulations and whatever that,
you know, monetizing, not

728
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,720
monetizing on YouTube using AI.
But anyway, man, I just sold

729
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,560
this, you know, Elder, you know,
older lady.

730
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,440
I don't know what the term is
nowadays, but I was like, man,

731
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,160
you're.
Doing good.

732
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,200
So innovative.
So she's like crushing it and I

733
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,840
was like, good for her and I'm a
lazy content creator and I need

734
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,080
to step it up and be in.
And she's like, this is only one

735
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,600
language.
She's like, there's hundreds of

736
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,560
languages, but this particular I
can't remember the software.

737
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,120
I wrote it down somewhere.
So she didn't use YouTube

738
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,560
because I know YouTube has has
announced that they're going to

739
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,080
have AI translation that'll also
be lip synced as well.

740
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,720
So it really looks like you're,
you're speaking the other

741
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:37,720
language.
She's not using the YouTube tool

742
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:41,000
then, right Billy?
No, this was a totally different

743
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,080
tool, but that's I did hear
about that too, but I haven't

744
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,960
seen anybody use it.
And then I guess with this

745
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,120
particular software, like you
can, once you like go through

746
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,760
the setup and build your avatar,
then you can just go throw

747
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,800
scripts into it or whatever you
want.

748
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,280
So hey Jen, it was pretty cool.
Yeah, it's.

749
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Hey, Jen.
Yeah.

750
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,080
Yep.
Thanks, Janae.

751
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,800
OK, let's do some wins from our
week.

752
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,600
This is what we do every Friday.
We share our wins from this past

753
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,600
week.
And thank you for diving into

754
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,640
that clip, that conversation, an
interesting bold prediction by

755
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,960
Gary Vee and one that I can say,
you know, certainly feels very

756
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,120
feasible these days.
And I think it could happen even

757
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,440
sooner than within five years.
You can quote me on that.

758
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,000
I think we're going to see a lot
of that sooner rather than

759
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,880
later.
So with that, let's share some

760
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,160
wins from our week.
We will go with our guests

761
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,520
who've joined us on stage first
and then we'll see what the time

762
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,400
is and we'll try to get through
our Co hosts and team leaders as

763
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,360
well.
So with that, let me check in

764
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,000
with Yvonne.
Yvonne, good morning again.

765
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,760
Please share any wins from your
past week.

766
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,240
Well, gosh, let me think.
Oh, right.

767
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,760
I went to the Empowered
Podcasting conference.

768
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,200
That was a major, a major, major
win.

769
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,800
I loved being there, feeling the
energy, meeting you guys that

770
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,160
were able to come also in
person.

771
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,600
Such a trip.
That was my first time being on

772
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,960
a panel, like in front of live
people, not not on a screen.

773
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,520
So that was really cool.
And then last night my my

774
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,440
husband came home from going out
with a friend for drinks,

775
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,000
another guy and I found out that
he has been listening to my

776
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,520
podcast on the regular because
it makes him feel better that

777
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,960
this has been a really rough
year for him and listening to my

778
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,480
podcast is just making him feel
better in general and more

779
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,560
hopeful.
And I was like, Oh my God,

780
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,200
that's amazing.
So.

781
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,520
That was a.
That's awesome.

782
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,840
Congratulations.
That's, yeah, that kind of

783
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,440
feedback.
When I get that kind of stuff,

784
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:55,040
it it makes it all worth it, all
the hard work worth it, right.

785
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,680
And I love what you're sharing.
Just when you said this is the

786
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,280
first time I spoke live in front
of people in that way on a

787
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,280
panel, it was just making me
think about.

788
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,920
And I'm guessing because I think
for me, I've noticed that

789
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,080
spending all this time doing the
things like Clubhouse, doing

790
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,120
lives, doing private workshops
with other people, all of that

791
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:25,600
stuff does help me when I am in
the situations like that, right?

792
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,240
Like, I don't get personally,
and I'm not saying this for you,

793
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:33,120
Yvonne, but I really don't get
nervous anymore going up on a

794
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,120
stage in front of people because
I'm so used to doing that

795
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,760
virtually that it's become
habit, it's become repetition.

796
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,040
And so that, yeah, that's,
that's really, I think that

797
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,400
that's another great reason why
doing these virtual things,

798
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,560
whether it's lives, whether it's
workshops or master classes, I

799
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,400
think that they're helping us in
a lot of other ways than just

800
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,760
maybe the direct way we're
trying, you know, maybe it's to

801
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,840
get more business or serve a
community.

802
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,600
I think it's serving us as
creators as well.

803
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:07,760
Thank you for bringing that up.
Absolutely.

804
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,800
I just want to say it's putting
in the reps, it's the 10,000

805
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,400
hours, It's all that.
It's amazing.

806
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,520
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, I'm going to keep it

807
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,240
moving.
Thank you.

808
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:21,880
Congratulations Yvonne Misha
Yvonne Mishawn Mishawn, please

809
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,320
share any wins from your week.
We're stacking up our guests for

810
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,120
our podcast Historical Drama
with the Boston Sisters.

811
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,560
We've got Jack L Hi, we're going
to talk to next week.

812
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,920
He's the author of the book that
is made that the film Nuremberg,

813
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,480
which is coming out November, is
based on.

814
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,120
We've got just a lot going on
with the podcast.

815
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,520
I even got a chance to send a
pitch deck to one of our guests

816
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,840
who executive produces series,
she said.

817
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,320
I want to see it.
So, you know, things are just

818
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,600
kind of moving along in multiple
directions because of the

819
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,640
historical drama of the Boston
Sisters podcast.

820
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,200
And I'm doing aerobics, which is
why I may sound out of breath.

821
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,840
Actually didn't notice it at
all.

822
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,880
Mishawn and congratulations.
Love hearing the the winds from

823
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,640
the podcast specifically.
And I know you're you work

824
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,920
really hard on that show.
So congratulations to you,

825
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,360
really cool and keep sharing.
Keep coming back and giving us

826
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,280
updates on everything you're
doing.

827
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,520
It's inspiring to say the least.
Janae, please share some wins

828
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,760
with us.
For last week is again what has

829
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Yvonne mentioned getting to meet
everybody, getting to capture

830
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,240
the event in video and audio
form.

831
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:42,440
That was exciting because I felt
more in purpose of of what I do

832
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,920
the most fun.
And then just this week I signed

833
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,280
up two clients for in person
podcasting at the studio we open

834
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,640
here in Reston.
So lots of fun stuff going on.

835
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,520
Thank you so much.
Congratulations Janae, love

836
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,000
hearing new business wins.
That's awesome, love that.

837
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,560
And yes, definitely a shared win
if you don't mind as far as your

838
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,760
participation, your volunteering
at the event and doing all the

839
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,400
things that you did, especially
the audio and video.

840
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Thank you so much.
And I know we have some more

841
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,880
wins to share as we talk more
about what to do with all that

842
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,160
content.
So thank you in advance for

843
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,240
that.
Billy, good morning to you again

844
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,000
and please share any wins from
your week.

845
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,240
Yeah, good morning, Mark.
I just got back from Boston or

846
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,840
Portsmouth NH technically for
the ECAMM Creator camp which was

847
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,520
awesome and one win is they
announced the dates already for

848
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,760
next year so I can plan
accordingly to be at your event

849
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,240
and their event at the same
time.

850
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,080
If that if.
That overlaps again a little

851
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,480
bit.
I can plan better.

852
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,120
So I'm excited about that.
You know, potential opportunity.

853
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:55,320
And man, it was just an awesome
event.

854
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,680
You know, I was a camp counselor
there, so mangled a ton.

855
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,040
That's when my voices, well,
one, we had a crazy karaoke

856
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,680
night at the end.
Did not sing, but I did cheer a

857
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,680
lot and just learn a ton from a
lot of awesome, amazing creators

858
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,960
and campers.
So yeah, I got a got a lot to

859
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,760
debrief over next week and it
was good.

860
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,440
It was, you know how it is.
Just get around your people and

861
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,400
you're like, this is refreshing.
So I know I hate, I couldn't be

862
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,080
there.
I was having so much FOMO as I

863
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,200
was packing for my own trip.
I'm like, Dang it, I got to make

864
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,440
this happen next year.
Yeah, we definitely missed you,

865
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,600
Billy, and no hard feelings.
We get it.

866
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,800
And next year we'll make sure
that you're there one way or

867
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,000
another.
We'll tie you up kicking and

868
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,080
screaming if we have to.
But yeah, I'm glad you had a

869
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,160
good time and it's great to hear
from somebody who is at a

870
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,760
different conference and hear a
little bit more about that.

871
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,400
So thank you for sharing that.
Congratulations again.

872
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,200
Couple of wins in the chat.
I want to get to Nick.

873
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,200
Couldn't stay on stage anymore.
He's been creating several

874
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,720
different personal apps using AI
and he's been sharing some of

875
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:03,160
that stuff with me behind the
scenes.

876
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,840
It's really, really awesome and
really fascinating what he's

877
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,520
doing.
Looking forward to hearing more

878
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,440
about that.
And a shout out to Tim, Brian in

879
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,880
the chat, Tim from the Empowered
podcasting conference community.

880
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,960
He, he's our, he's got a win
where he's already working with

881
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,880
a brand new consulting client.
So very cool.

882
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,360
Congratulations to you, Tim.
And I'll ask that our moderators

883
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,280
share by the old rapid fire
round as we do normally with our

884
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,920
moderators these days, Sid, kick
us off and then pass it to Alex

885
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,920
etcetera, etcetera.
Go for it, Sid.

886
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,560
My biggest win of the week is
we're back to normal.

887
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,240
Everybody is settled, my
daughter is settled in London

888
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:51,680
and active in school, my son
settled at his school and my

889
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,800
wife is home and so we are back
to normal with empty nesting

890
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,480
adventures coming again soon.
So.

891
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,400
And my second win is I have
banned myself from checking my

892
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,960
daughter's location on LIE 360
because I don't want to know

893
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,800
where she is or what time she
comes home because Dad needs to

894
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:17,560
let go of some of that and
realize she's about to be 23

895
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,960
years old this month.
So yeah, that's a huge win.

896
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,520
And my third one before I pass
it to Alex, is for one full

897
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,960
straight week, I have on my
morning walk worn a 12 LB

898
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,240
weighted vest.
And if you've never worn a way

899
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:36,560
to invest in your working out,
it's a adventure in learning how

900
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,160
to carry the extra weight.
But it's really good.

901
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,480
It's helped me burn more
calories.

902
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,080
So good stuff all around Alex
already.

903
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,280
You just have to cut, cut them
off real quick and I'll come

904
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,320
back to you, Alex.
You know, Sid, I still track my

905
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,320
kids.
They still track me and my

906
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:57,360
mother-in-law who's what, 79?
She's tracking all of us all the

907
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,000
time.
We'll get on the phone with her

908
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,280
and we'll just, you know, have a
catch up call and she's telling

909
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,800
us where all of our kids are,
where they've been.

910
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,800
I mean, she is, she loves to
keep up with us that way.

911
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,840
And we're all OK with it.
We feel like, you know what,

912
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,840
we're family.
We should know where each other

913
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,800
are.
So don't feel too guilty about

914
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,000
it.
And kudos for you for trying to,

915
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,040
to break free of that habit as
well.

916
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,040
Keep it going, Alex.
It was great to meet everybody.

917
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,240
And by the way, Sid, I took over
the Lucy tracking, so at least

918
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:30,760
the Lucy is being tracked.
OK, there you go.

919
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,880
We're going to skip Ashley and
go to Dr. Go ahead, Dr. My win.

920
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,440
I saw an episode last night of
Jimmy Fallon's on Brand.

921
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,800
It's a competition show, but I
swear it's like a master class

922
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,000
in how to talk to sponsors and
how to do ad reads.

923
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,360
And I mean, it was just really,
really interesting.

924
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,880
Everything that I saw in it.
I was looking through podcasting

925
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,040
filters and it was just a really
interesting show.

926
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,840
That's my win.
Thank you Dr. and my win of

927
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,600
course, and congratulations DRI.
I'm congratulations, feels

928
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,120
little, you know, weird, but
yes, congratulation for

929
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,520
discovering that and sharing it
with us and for me, yeah, the

930
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,680
Empowered Podcasting conference.
What what else can I say?

931
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,080
I mean, it's another win for me
because Tim has shared that the

932
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,240
new client business that I just
shared about his win, that's all

933
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:30,920
he credits to attending and
being a part of the Empowered

934
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,240
Podcasting Conference and the
community.

935
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:37,320
So big win for me there too.
Tim, thank you for sharing that

936
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,880
one with me.
And overall, the win is, is that

937
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,240
I got through the Empowered
Podcasting Conference.

938
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,520
I had all sorts of fear, all
sorts of doubts going into it.

939
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,520
And at some point, I finally
decided to trust and let go of

940
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,240
it all and focus on what I want
the event to be instead of what

941
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:58,520
it might be.
And boy, did it deliver.

942
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,760
So thank you all for helping to
make it such a special, special

943
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,320
weekend for me and for everyone
who attended.

944
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:11,080
And we're back, dare I say,
Monday, 7:00 AM Eastern.

945
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,560
We are back to the five days a
week.

946
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:26,560
Or don't groan Dr. So come join
us Monday through Friday, 7:00

947
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,880
AM Eastern here on Clubhouse
Live or on YouTube Live as well.

948
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,680
We would love to have you here.
And if you can't for whatever

949
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:40,520
reason, you can always catch the
podcast at podpage.com/PMC and

950
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,400
you can find where it's
available on other podcast

951
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,640
platforms Until Monday.
Make it a great weekend

952
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,800
everybody, take care.