348 - ​​How to Use Listener Voice to Create Community

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Thursday, July 31st,
2025, and today we're opening up

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the mailbag again and diving
into your podcasting questions.

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From newbie tips to boosting
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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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morning chat.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
I am your host Mark Ronik and on

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stage currently with me we have
my Co hosts, producer Ashley

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Feller, Nick Naulback, Dr. Faye
and Sid Meadows.

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I should say Amanda Sharp is
taking the week off.

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She had a birthday just the
other day and she's taking a

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week of vacation.
So we wish Amanda a very happy

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birthday and a very enjoyable
vacation.

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I think it's a staycation from
the way I understand it, and

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good for her.
That's what I do.

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I like those staycations.
Dr. Do you ever go on a

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vacation?
I don't like traveling.

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So that's the same as Amanda.
Yeah, I used to do it for a

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living.
I mean, I used to be a musician

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that was on the road and I just
freaking hate it.

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When I came back to the States,
'cause I was on the road in

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Asia, I would get the shakes if
I had to drive past the airport.

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It was crazy.
I just hate traveling.

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I hear you.
It's not something that I can

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relate to.
I mean, I don't love the actual

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act of traveling, but I do like
going to new places or visiting

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old places that I haven't been
to in a while so that the it's

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the act of traveling I don't
particularly love.

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But I hear you and you're
certainly not alone.

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Like I said, Amanda, not a big
traveler.

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She's shared with us before.
I don't even like seeing new

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places.
It's just I have animals and I'm

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so I just want to be around my
animals is really what I want.

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OK, That's really my happy
place.

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Yeah, I hear you.
And cats aren't always the best

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of travelers either.
And I'm thinking, I'm thinking,

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yeah, I'm thinking that because
we don't usually have that

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problem unless, of course, we're
flying.

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We don't take our dog with us,
but our dog pretty much goes

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wherever we go.
If it's a car ride, even if it's

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a long 1, he comes with us, he
goes everywhere with us.

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So again, can't quite relate,
but I know that cats are not

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usually the best of travellers.
Yeah.

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OK.
So today we're going to dig into

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the mailbag and it's actually
both, at least the two questions

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that I have here.
And we do have some other

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stockpiled, but both aren't
actually mailbag in the sense

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that they don't come directly
from a listener.

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We found some of these on
Reddit, some of these on

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Facebook, etcetera.
And we felt like they were worth

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digging into.
And so I'm pausing and I'm using

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filler words like.
And so because I was debating

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whether or not I'm just having a
day this morning and I was

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debating, do I really want to
share that?

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Because that doesn't always set
the tone very well.

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So there's a little tip for
podcasters.

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You got to be careful how you
set the tone of a show, right?

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Let's.
So, yeah.

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But because like, here's what
I'm getting at.

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I'm having a morning.
It's not worth getting into

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right now.
And I'm here saying, hey, bear

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with me, I'm having a bad day or
I'm having a bad morning.

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I'm almost setting myself up for
kind of a crappy show, or at

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least I'm setting that
expectation In your head.

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There is a line with
authenticity because you just

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have to tread lightly.
It's just as far as how you're

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setting your show's tone.
If you're going to set the

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audience up and say I'm not
really feeling it today, well,

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that might cause some people to
just jump ship and just say, all

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right, well then I'm not feeling
feeling like sitting here and

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listening to it or, you know,
they're just now going to sit

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there and listen for those signs
of you not feeling it.

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Or listening for a train wreck.
So let me just point out a

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couple of things.
One of the things that sets you

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apart from other podcasters is
that you have a crew of people

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that you say, yeah, I'm just
not, I'm not feeling it.

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And so the crew pitches in.
That is not what most podcasters

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have.
The other thing that sets you

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apart is that you are here every
single solitary.

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That is another thing that sets
you apart from other podcasters.

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I think you're entitled to have
a day.

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Yeah, and I do believe I'm
entitled to have a day.

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And again, it's, it's, it's for
me, it's about setting the right

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tone for the show.
And yes, you're right, DRI do

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have the disadvantage and you
know, 'cause you're the first

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person I speak to in the morning
before the show starts.

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And, and you're one of those
people that definitely has my

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back in those situations.
And you jump in and help me kind

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of craft the what the show's
going to look like in the

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morning, especially on days like
this.

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And a lot of people have Co
hosts and I think that's

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something that you can rely on
too.

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If you're not feeling it that
day, I think it's important for

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you to at least express it to
your Co host so that your Co

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host can maybe do a little bit
more of the heavy lifting that

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day.
I think that's really important.

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Absolutely.
OK, cool.

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All right.
So with that, I also wanted to

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say stop and say, hey, Sid, I
saw on LinkedIn you're going to

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podcast movement and I don't
feel like I knew if you were

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prior to your trip.
So did you just make this

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decision recently or is this it?
Just that I'm getting hip to it

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now?
Good morning, everybody.

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No, you're not necessarily.
I mean, everybody's getting hip

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to it at the same time.
So I got a obviously it's here

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in Dallas, which is super
convenient for me.

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And I thought about going, I saw
that Katie Brinkley was going

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and I've never met Katie.
And I've obviously known Katie

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for several years, like a lot of
us.

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And the ambassador, the podcast
event space ambassador reached

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out to me and said, are you
going to be there?

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And am I going to get to meet
you?

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That's all I'm thinking about
it, not sure yet.

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And then the next thing I know,
a ticket showed up in my e-mail.

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So I got a ticket from the
podcast ambassador, who we all

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know and love.
And so she's like, OK, now I

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have to make sure that I meet
you.

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So I'm going to get to meet
Paula and Katie Brinkley and

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probably a few others that I
have never met in person.

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And so it's I'm just right now
I'm trying to decide, am I going

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to drive down there?
It's about 45 minutes from me.

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I'm trying to decide if I'm
going to drive down there and

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spend one night at the Gaylord
or just just go one day.

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I need to look at the schedule
to see what the schedule is.

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But yes, I am going because the
podcast ambassador sent me a

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ticket.
Paula.

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And pretty much beat me up to
say you better show up.

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That's funny.
Yeah.

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So OK, so here I have to admit I
was feeling a little selfish and

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a little like, darn it, because
I was hoping your first time

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meeting Katie would be at
Empowered Podcasting because

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she's coming to Empowered
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She's speaking there as well.
I saw the next day that she

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after I saw that she was a
speaker at Podcast Movement, I

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saw she was a speaker at
Empowered Podcasting.

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So I'm excited to see her twice
now and here right after five

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years of never meeting Katie and
being a huge fan and an avid

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listener to her, A supporter for
podcast Plural.

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Yeah, yeah.
Cool.

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Well, I am excited to see you at
Podcast Movement and I've been

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fortunate enough to meet you
face to face already.

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And it's going to be cool to see
all a lot of us getting together

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as a group for the first time.
It'll be really fun, especially

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because these are also clubhouse
connections, right?

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Said like this is where you met
Katie, where we met, etcetera.

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So cool to see.
And by the way, before we dive

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into this first mailbag
question, Mike Short says in the

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chat regarding the whole thing
about setting the tone, what we

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were talking about earlier, he
says you're entitled, but you

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got to put on your game face.
I remember feeling out of it

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when I was a nightclub DJ but
had to decide to put on a great

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show that almost always actually
put me in a great mood.

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And Mike, I can't, I couldn't
agree more with you.

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The one thing that I know for
podcast with podcasting for me

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is that no matter how I'm
feeling before I press record,

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how I'll just say it, how shitty
I'm feeling before I press

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record.
The moment I hit record, the

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moment I sit down.
Especially in this format on

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this show with all of you, it
does all go out the window.

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I do put on that game face and I
don't even intentionally

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necessarily do it other than
knowing, OK, I'm hitting record,

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I'm going live.
I've got people depending on me,

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but I that that's the extent of
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I don't have to sit there and
pump myself up and put on that

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quote UN quote game face.
It's an instinct.

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I just go right to it.
Podcasting is a secret therapy

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for a podcast host.
I think for in many cases, not

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for everybody, but in many
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Let's go to the mailbag.
This one we found on Reddit,

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like I said earlier, comes from
somebody named Riley Says.

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Hello my fellow podcasters.
I was wondering what you all use

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or what you do to make your
podcast more interactive for

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your listeners.
I want my listeners to be able

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to not just e-mail me, but maybe
click on a link that will take

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them to a comment box.
They can write something small

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and such as such as topics they
want to hear, my podcast, go

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over ideas for quick hot topics
that we have at the beginning of

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each episode, etcetera.
But I don't know of any other

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way of doing so besides telling
them at the end of each episode

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to send an e-mail or messages to
the social media pages.

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Any tips, tricks, or suggestions
would be great.

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Thanks.
So I'm curious, Oh, and Ashley,

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why don't you chime in with that
reaction that you just shared in

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the chat?
Don't.

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Tell them at the end, tell them
in the middle, tell them kind of

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towards the beginning, but don't
wait till the end because the

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average person likely doesn't
listen to the end.

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Yeah, I'm with you.
It might be one of the biggest

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podcasting advice mistakes out
there, in the sense that for so

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many years in podcasting, I hear
the advice, do the call to

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action at the end.
And yes, of course that's a

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great time to do it.
And it's not the only time to do

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it.
If you're going to, if you want

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your audience to do something,
you can't wait till the very end

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to ask them to do it.
Because the truth of the matter

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is, statistically speaking, not
every single person who presses

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play is listening to all 60
minutes, all 30 minutes, however

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long your episode is.
They're not listening all the

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way through.
Not everyone.

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And some of those people who
might have bailed early could

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have been the ones that would
have taken action on that call

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to action.
So the idea is, yeah, let's

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sprinkle it throughout the whole
episode.

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Sprinkle it, share what you want
them to do throughout the whole

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thing.
Work it in to the conversation.

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You want them to send you an
e-mail or DM you or whatever you

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want them to.
You'd want them to know you have

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some kind of resource, a free
resource you're giving away.

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Don't wait till the end.
I want them to know even at the

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beginning that you have a free
resource and maybe you want to

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tease it, right?
Maybe it's not appropriate at

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the beginning to say it because
you need them to kind of go

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through the motions, go through
the journey of the episode, and

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then you hit them with the
resource.

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But you can tease it.
Hey, stick around till the very

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end and I've got a free gift for
you.

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So that's something to consider.
Anyone else have any

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suggestions?
So two things.

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One, good old mid roll.
Normally it's for kind of

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advertising, but you can treat
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advertisement.
And I don't know who's hosting

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this person's podcast, but if
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now has a little.
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section?
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You've been getting more

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comments over there.
Awesome, Spotify and YouTube,

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which they both have the comment
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Sid, go ahead and help me out
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kitchen.
I was going to say what Ashley

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That's a really bad idea.
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going to add to that is when you
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engagement or a question from a
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beginning of your show, like
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Ashley who said that in the last
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opinion, actually will encourage
other listeners to do the same

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thing, to take that same action,
right, and to want to have their

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comment shared as well.
So I think that's a great way to

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drive engagement is to highlight
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The same thing with the review,
like if you get a review from

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somebody, then read the review
and then ask for more reviews

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with because then that will
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Ashley, did you want to add
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attention to Mike's comment in

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the chat about Speak Pipe and
also, you know, put that in

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combination of what Sif is
saying and maybe you could play

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your Speak Pipe messages on your
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I love Speak Pipe.
I think that's a great idea.

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We've talked about Speak Pipe.
I'm.

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Curious, does anybody by just a
show of hands anybody on stage

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use speak pipe?
I've heard about it but I've

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never used.
I'm just curious if anybody's

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actually using it.
I've used it and I have some

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clients that use it as well.
It it works really well and what

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I love about it is they leave
the message, then you get that

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little sound bite the MP3 file
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Play it for your audience.

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It works very smoothly.
Overall I've I've had a lot of

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success with it and anyone else.
Mark, do you know how much it

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cost?
Go ahead, Nick.

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I.
Can't remember how much it cost

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specifically.
I do.

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It's free.
It's absolutely free when?

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I was doing the 95 podcast.
I built an entire episode around

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the Speak Pipe recordings that I
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telling them about the episode

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that I wanted to put together
and I was basically getting

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input from other creators,
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snippets and then like spoke to
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him even though I didn't have
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But it's kind of a a cool way to
mix up the episodes and get

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other people involved.
I love that idea.

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Thank you, Nick.
All right, let's check in with

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some people who have joined us.
And by the way, Jonathan Howard

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has joined us on the clubhouse
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He left chatter to come over
here to join us.

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When I shut that room down,
unfortunately a little too soon.

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I should have paid attention to
what was going on with my board

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anyway.
And Speaking of Rd.

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Caster Pro boards, there's
actually an answer that I can

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give this particular question
with an with the new feature

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that the Road Caster Pro has
added.

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I'll get into that momentarily.
Let's first say hello to our

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guests that have joined us on
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First, hello to Janae.
Janae, no pressure, but I just

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wanted to make sure.
Did you want to add anything to

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this conversation about making
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your audience?
Good morning everyone.

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Thank you for that question.
I am looking to do that same for

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my podcast even though I've done
so many episodes.

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My question would be around the
same topic.

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Even though I have a guest
related show where I have guests

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coming on, how do I make it more
interactive for audiences

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listening?
One simple way would be to

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really engage your audience and
get them to ask questions that

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you can then ask your guest.
And you know who does this

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really well is actually a mutual
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Parody does this often I see.
And what she does is she goes

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into her Instagram stories and
she posts something about an

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upcoming guest.
And it's usually a few different

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stories in a row, right?
She'll post something about a

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guest.
And really what she's doing, in

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my opinion, is building up our
interest, her audience's

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interest in that guest that's
coming by just sharing

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information, highlights or I
should say insights from that

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guest.
And then she'll a new story will

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pop up and she'll say, I'm
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I need some help coming up with
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What should I ask?
And she often times gets a lot

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of questions and then she'll
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on her show.
I don't hear her often saying,

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oh, this question comes from one
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And then ask the interviewer or
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to her if I were sitting down
with her right now or sitting

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down with somebody who wants to
do something similar is yeah,

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actually bring in your guests,
say their name if they give you

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permission.
Yeah, This comes from my

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listener, Jinade.
And Jinade wants to know, how do

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you do X, right.
That gets people feeling like

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they're really a part of the
show.

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That's a way to make them feel
like it's interactive, calling

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out their names, saying that
they're contributing to the

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content.
That goes a long way.

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So that's one, one other way you
could do it and you could also.

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I'm going to wait.
I'm going to wait because I want

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to share this feature from Rd.
but I want to first say hello to

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Jeff.
Jeff, good morning.

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Welcome back.
It's been a minute since we've

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had you.
Did you want to add it all to

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this?
Yeah, you kind of, we're just

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touching on the expansion of
what Sid had said that I kind of

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wanted to highlight.
Sid was talking about commenting

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on people directly encouraging
people to how that might

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encourage people to participate.
And I want to just kind of call

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out, you know, that is very much
a stage crafty kind of task.

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If you think about it.
You see it in concerts a lot.

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You know, we see it in the music
industry a lot.

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And I just want to highlight it
because.

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Apart from the idea that you're
encouraging people to offer

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suggestions or ask questions,
sometimes as hosts, that makes

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us feel like we have to then
respond to every question.

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Oh, well, this guy asked a
question, I have to answer his

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question too because he asked it
and we don't have to do that.

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The point of of part of the
point of doing that, and this is

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kind of what you were just
talking about, Mark, is when you

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call attention to somebody in
your podcast, when you call

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attention to somebody in the
audience, you know, particularly

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in a concert, we've all seen
this.

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It's not that you then expect to
raise your hand and be called

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out on the audience.
It just shows you kind of that

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you can put yourself in the
place of the person that just

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got singled out and you know
that the host, you know that the

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artist gives a crap about who's
in the audience because they

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have highlighted somebody in the
audience and you are also in the

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audience.
You don't expect Garth Brooks to

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single out everybody in the
audience.

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It wouldn't even be possible.
But the fact that he singled out

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somebody let's you know that he
cares about the audience because

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you can put yourself in the
place of that example.

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And I think that also is in play
with podcasting.

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So we don't have to feel like we
have to answer every question,

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just answer some of them.
It shows you care about your

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audience.
Thank you, Jeff.

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Yeah, I do.
I see that.

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I agree with that.
There is something when, yeah,

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using that analogy of a live
show, when you see the the

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talent up there interacting with
the audience, obviously that

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person can't do it with, can't
respond and can't speak with

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everybody in the audience.
And it still shows that they

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care.
And I think that's that is the

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value that we take away from
this.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Jeff, I'm with you there.

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And Jonathan, Jonathan just
messaged me that he wanted to

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respond to this as well.
So go for it, Jonathan.

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Yeah.
And I'm going to say I, I

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understand in a live situation
where you don't necessarily want

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to do that, but wherever
possible, answering all the

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questions of your audience is
going to be a strong move.

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That's going to keep you show
that you're investing in what

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your audience needs from you.
Because a lot of times those

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questions are going to be
questions that multiple people

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have.
That's just what I would

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recommend is whenever possible,
answer all the questions they've

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got.
Obviously some of them are going

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to be similar things that you
can roll into one, but wherever

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possible, answer all the
questions you can.

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Yeah, I can see what you're
saying there.

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And I think that, yeah, like you
said, there's going to be a lot

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of similar types of questions
throughout the course of your

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podcasts.
You can lump all of those

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together when necessary.
And sometimes there's going to

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be some questions that just
don't really fit right, that you

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just can't answer because
they're they just don't work

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with what you're doing on the
show.

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But for the most part there, the
question should be relevant and

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helpful to the rest of your
audience if you are able to

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answer those questions.
So yeah, I think that there is a

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little bit of, it's a little bit
of both to be a little wishy

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washy about it.
But I think that you can't

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answer every single question.
And it's important to really

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take all those questions
seriously because if they're

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coming from your audience, even
if it's one question from one

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person, there are probably
others in your audience that

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have a similar or the same
question.

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Janae, I saw you had your hand
up again.

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Did you want to add on to this?
Yeah, based on what Jonathan

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said, you know, it could be a
really long episode if you're

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just answering all the questions
that you got.

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And this is something that Jay
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He said I got so many questions
I had to break it into two

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episodes.
So he did create 2 specific

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episodes just answering
questions.

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And if you don't know who Jay
Class is of creator science,

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he's got an amazing community as
well on Circle and tons of

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amazing people come through
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Yeah, thank you.
Janae J Klaus, great example.

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And there is another let's look
talk about some other ways that

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we can actually connect you.
So speak pipe was shared earlier

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and there's a new feature that
just came out recently from the

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road caster Pro Rd. added a
feature, which, if those of you

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who've been around the
podcasting morning chat for

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years, one of the O GS Chuck had
actually messaged me not too

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long ago.
He was telling me that I guess

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he's part of Rhodes beta people,
beta clients, beta customers,

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and he actually knew about this
feature before it came to the

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public.
It's called call me Rd.

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Call me and I'll read just the
blurb about it and then we can

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talk a little bit about it if
anyone has any questions.

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It's a new feature for the Road
Caster Pro 2 and the Duo.

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Designed to facilitate remote
audio communication, Call Me

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provides direct, low latency
audio connections over Wi-Fi or

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Ethernet.
This functionality allows users

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to connect to remote guests from
other Rd.

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Caster units or via a web
browser, integrating their audio

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directly into the Road Caster
Pro for broadcasting or

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recording.
Developed in partnership with

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with Vortex Communications, it
is designed to overcome the core

450
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,000
limitations of standard voice
over IP, which typically

451
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,440
delivers low quality, heavily
compressed audio that doesn't

452
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,760
integrate as seamlessly into
professional work flows.

453
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,840
So the way that this is
explaining it as far as the

454
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:03,120
quality goes, if any of you
listen to say, a radio show and

455
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:07,080
I'm the one I'm thinking of
that, that I've heard this done

456
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,640
before, but actually Smartless
is a good example too.

457
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,600
I'll use Smartless a lot of
times they'll have a guest come

458
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,040
on and it sounds like that guest
is in the same room, right?

459
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,840
It sounds like the, the, the
audio quality is so clear.

460
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,120
And that's what this is
basically saying that it does is

461
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:29,200
where people can go through a
web browser and they're going to

462
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,160
get the real high quality sound.
It's not going to sound like

463
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,360
you're on a Bluetooth phone,
right?

464
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,040
It's not going to sound like
you're calling from your car per

465
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,680
SE.
It's going to be that high

466
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,800
quality, that high audio
fidelity, which is really cool.

467
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,440
And more importantly to the
question, this is a great way

468
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800
you could incorporate your
audience.

469
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,960
You could have a segment where
it's like a call in segment,

470
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,320
just like on a radio show.
You can give the link to your

471
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,080
audience, tell them, you know,
here's the link, call us, give

472
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,200
us a question, and you can
actually interact with them

473
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,640
live.
Something like this would be a

474
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,200
wonderful addition to what this
person's trying to do.

475
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Would this be a feature someone
would use?

476
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,040
Because if we were looking on
the other side of the coin, I

477
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,400
think that some of the
challenges could be how do we

478
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,640
get our audience to do that?
The challenge becomes we're

479
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,160
trying to make this appointment.
Listening now, it's not just

480
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,360
because if it's on demand, that
doesn't do you any good.

481
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:35,720
If you want live callers and
your your listeners are used to

482
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,160
listening on demand, you now
have to train them, for lack of

483
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,840
a better term, to know OK, you
have to call in at this time, on

484
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,880
this day.
I think it's it can still work.

485
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,200
I do.
I think that if you pepper all

486
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,600
the socials with it and say,
hey, at 7:00 PM Eastern Time,

487
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:02,040
I'm going to be recording my
podcast and I would love for you

488
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,880
to be on it, for your voice to
be heard on it.

489
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,480
So please call this toll free
number, blah, blah, blah, blah

490
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,680
while I'm recording.
Let's do this experiment

491
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,360
together.
A lot of times people if you say

492
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,760
let's do this social experiment,
a lot of times people would say,

493
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,480
oh, I'm going to get involved in
that.

494
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,040
I used to work in Vegas and in
those wee hours when there's

495
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,600
hardly anyone walking around the
casino, we have something called

496
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,600
shills who sit at the poker
table at the 21 tables and play

497
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,320
with house money.
So you need some shills to call

498
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,240
in and to kind of show people
what it's like.

499
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,800
What it what do you do, you
know?

500
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,280
So yeah, set up some shells,
pepper social media with when

501
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,520
you're recording.
Yeah, I think it can be done.

502
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,400
And I'd love the tip Dr. when
you're first getting started

503
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,080
with this, hey, let's try this
social experiment together.

504
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,920
It does perk up an audience's
ears for sure.

505
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,040
I love that.
I love that strategy.

506
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,640
Thank you for that in.
Fact.

507
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,360
Why don't you just name the damn
podcast?

508
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,600
Hey, there you go.
There you go.

509
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,400
OK, we have Sid and Ashley who
want to chime in.

510
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640
Let's go to Sid first.
He did raise his hand first.

511
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Go for it, Sid.
Kind of adding on to what Der

512
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,520
was just talking about.
If you are having in your

513
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,760
industry or in your niche a
really powerful thought leader

514
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,520
or guest, come on, you can
promote the same way.

515
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Like have you ever wanted to ask
Mark Ronnick question?

516
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Well, Mark's going to be on my
show today at join me at 7:00 PM

517
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,440
Eastern Time and dial in and ask
your question live and hear the

518
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600
response live.
I think that's a great way to

519
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,760
promote your show, to promote
the guest, especially if it's

520
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,720
kind of a high-powered guest,
right, and to bring in some

521
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,760
engagement.
So I really like that idea, a

522
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,200
way to use it, the road Buster
feature.

523
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,800
Yeah.
Thank you, Sid.

524
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,040
Yeah.
And that feature again is called

525
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,800
Call Me and Ashley.
Did you want to add something?

526
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,640
Sure.
I think that there could be

527
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,440
potential.
This sort of reminds me back in

528
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,200
the days when, you know, you
heard radio DJs incentivize

529
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,000
people for calling in.
Like for the the third caller on

530
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Tuesday, they get some sort of a
reward.

531
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,600
And I think there's some sort of
adaptability there for podcasts.

532
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,880
I don't know what the incentive
would be, but I think that

533
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,360
someone could get creative and
like saying, hey, if you call in

534
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,720
and you know, maybe share, for
example, if it's an advice

535
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,400
podcast, maybe a situation
you're going through, we will

536
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,440
offer you a discount on whatever
product is tied to that podcast.

537
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,360
That's just, you know, off the
top of my head.

538
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360
Yeah, thank you, Ashley.
Yeah, Janae, go ahead.

539
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,160
I remember back in the days I
would listen to the radio 98.7

540
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,480
and they were like, hey, if you
call in you can win a ticket to

541
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,640
Coachella or ticket to latest
concert that's coming in and

542
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,120
people will just dial in like
calling #9 was going to get the

543
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760
get the tickets.
So that was a pretty fun

544
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,760
experience.
And I don't know about you, but

545
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,400
I did try to get me some free
tickets.

546
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Oh yeah, when I was a kid, I was
all over that.

547
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Be the 107th caller on Q1O7 and
win $107.00 in cash.

548
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,880
I actually.
And actually it wasn't Q1O7.

549
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,720
Yes, that's a real former radio
station in DC.

550
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,120
It was, I think WAVA 105 and it
was win $105.

551
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,520
And I as a kid was so into that.
I was like a young teenager and

552
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,280
I think I won two months in a
row.

553
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,840
I had to wait 30 days after I
won the first time and then I

554
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,680
tried again once the 30 days are
up and I won it again.

555
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,600
And I was very proud of myself
for that.

556
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,120
I mean, you know, as a young
teenager, winning over $200 cash

557
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840
within a couple months is, is
great money.

558
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Yeah.
And I think.

559
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,280
What did you spend it on?
What did you you want to know

560
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,480
what I spent it on?
I do want to know.

561
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,000
It was right around Halloween
and I really wanted to be Freddy

562
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,280
Krueger for Halloween and the
mask and the costume was really

563
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,720
expensive and my mom was like,
hell no, you are not.

564
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320
I'm not spending that kind of
money on a costume you're going

565
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,400
to wear once.
So I said, all right, I'll win

566
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,960
the money.
Yeah.

567
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Yep.
I do think that this whole idea

568
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,000
could very well be something
that takes off.

569
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,120
And I'm not necessarily
necessarily saying it's the call

570
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440
me feature, but I do think that
this is a missing element from

571
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,960
podcasting that as the
technology gets better and more

572
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,560
creative, I think that we could
start seeing this in the near

573
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,280
future more often on podcasts
where listeners are calling in

574
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,200
just like radio.
And I know I saw in the chat

575
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,320
that there were some questions
about the tech of this Call Me

576
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,920
feature.
And Nick, if you are available,

577
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,000
I know that you were kind of in
that chat having that

578
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,640
discussion.
Any highlights or questions that

579
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,720
stick out to you from the chat?
As far as questions around the

580
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Call me feature?
Does it have to be live or can

581
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,400
it operate like speak pipe to
where you people can call in and

582
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,680
you have the recording of the
message?

583
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,280
That's a great question.
I don't see that as let me just

584
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,160
see the advanced Calling
Features integration facilitates

585
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,920
professional call handling
experience Features include

586
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240
direct Rd. caster to Rd. caster
calling.

587
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,840
It doesn't sound like they're
yeah, this sounds like it's for

588
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,760
live stuff.
It says the IT has the

589
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,520
capability to queue up two
callers while one is live and

590
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,360
straightforward web calling for
guests to join via a browser

591
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
link.
It sounds like that this is all

592
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,080
real time stuff.
You would want to use speak pipe

593
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,080
for more of like your voicemail
feature if you will.

594
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,400
Michael Stewart in the chat, he
brought up a pretty good point

595
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,440
as well.
He said not really excited about

596
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320
not having control of what
questions are answered.

597
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Yeah, questions are answered,
prefer that they get submitted

598
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,199
and screened before heading
record, which is a very valid.

599
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Point, It's a valid point and I
couldn't do this show if I was

600
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,080
that concerned, right?
I mean, we have people jumping

601
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,719
up here all the time, and there
are sometimes people that jump

602
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,679
up here that really don't have
much to contribute on occasion,

603
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:29,280
right?
For the most part, we've got

604
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,360
this awesome community and
everybody's got lots to

605
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,280
contribute.
Sometimes people pop in, they're

606
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,880
a little bit disruptive, even if
they're not intentionally doing

607
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,719
so.
And I think that's something you

608
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,560
roll with.
And that's the beauty and magic

609
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,199
of editing.
If it didn't work out, Mike, you

610
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,120
can just edit it out late and
then nobody will be the wiser.

611
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,400
That was going along with the
question of is it, can you

612
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,280
record or does it have to be
live?

613
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,080
And you said it doesn't look
like there is a record.

614
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,360
Yeah.
Aspect so so.

615
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,800
People can't submit.
Like you wouldn't necessarily

616
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,200
have to do your podcast live,
but you would have like a moment

617
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,280
where you could have live
conversations with people and

618
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,240
those conversations are getting
recorded to that point.

619
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,920
You could build the episode.
Around it, that's true.

620
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,600
So one thing you could do is
almost have like an office

621
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,920
hours, if you will, right?
Something that you can promote.

622
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Hey, community, every other
Wednesday at 12:00 PM Eastern

623
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Time, I'm going to be live
answering your questions.

624
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,320
Here's the browser link that
road provides.

625
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,840
Here's the browser link to call
in and speak with me live

626
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,080
directly and we'll record the
conversation.

627
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,280
And that conversation may be
added onto that might be part of

628
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,600
the next episode of this
podcast.

629
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,200
I think that works really well.
But yeah, this is designed to be

630
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,600
live, but you can do it.
And I guess, like Nick is

631
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,960
saying, in all sorts of ways,
including recording beforehand.

632
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,680
All right, I'm going to go to
Jinaid.

633
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080
And then Meg has joined us on
stage.

634
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,200
So we'll go to Meg next.
Go ahead, Jinaid.

635
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,360
It sounds like a live call in
feature where you call into a

636
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,760
recording, but it doesn't have
to be live streaming out like

637
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,560
what we're doing here on the
radio.

638
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,880
Really cool experience with it.
Last week with Tanya, we could

639
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,280
talk about it later.
She did a live.

640
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,120
She's like, hey, this big, this
thing just came out and I wanted

641
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,760
to test it.
She put a web link up, punch it

642
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,640
in and it sounded really good.
Really cool stuff.

643
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,480
Yeah, cool.
Thank you, Janae and Meg,

644
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,080
welcome back to the stage.
It feels like everybody's coming

645
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,760
home after a little vacation
that Jeff hasn't been around in

646
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,520
a little bit.
Now we've got Meg back up on

647
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,480
stage.
It's great to see everybody go.

648
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,800
For it Meg nice to see everyone
I happenstance to radio my radio

649
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,120
show's been syndicated.
I started in I heart Providence

650
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,600
and it's not my full time gig.
My full time gig is seeing

651
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,720
patients and doing nutrition.
But my show does get put up into

652
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,520
a repurpose, into a podcast.
So I just wanted to say that

653
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,720
first.
But first, I have experience

654
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,520
taking calls in radio live on a
news station.

655
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,960
Actually, Mel Robbins and I were
both on the same New York

656
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,560
Internet station where you could
do either.

657
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,640
Sometimes they took calls live
while you did the show and

658
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,560
sometimes they played the shows
prerecorded.

659
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,400
So it can be done either way
obviously.

660
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,280
But I will tell you this, a very
well known radio person once

661
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,480
told me that the they consider
taking calls the riskiest type

662
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,760
of a radio show because it can
take you down a lot of different

663
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,880
rabbit holes.
And you're having people on that

664
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,240
have absolutely no experience.
Like they could be, you know, it

665
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:53,560
could be from all walks of life
calling in and you think you're

666
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,960
going to do a show about XY and
Z and it goes down a whole

667
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,400
different rabbit hole.
So it is a little bit riskier.

668
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,880
And some people are going to
find that they don't they really

669
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,880
don't like it as much as just
talking like on a podcast.

670
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,840
So I think we'll just see more
variety.

671
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,680
I mean, I think there's
something, there's a lot of

672
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,680
different ways we could do it,
but it is considered the

673
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,240
riskiest type of form of, I
guess we could say podcast or

674
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:18,000
radio because it's it's going to
start happening and podcasting

675
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,200
too.
And it's not going to be any

676
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,040
different than when it's a, you
know, a regular radio station or

677
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,120
it's a podcast.
Yeah, agreed.

678
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,560
And I think that this agreed to
a point because at the same time

679
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,840
this goes back to what I said
earlier about to Mike, right.

680
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,720
It's there's always the power of
editing.

681
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080
And that's the beauty of
podcasting is that it's on

682
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,000
demand.
So we have that freedom to to

683
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,680
reduce the risk and eliminate
the disruptions.

684
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,680
But it is its own thing.
Yeah, go ahead.

685
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,120
Clubhouse put me in the naughty
chair, so I'm sorry my pepper is

686
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,840
not rising.
Wait a minute.

687
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,880
And again, just for those who
don't know why we keep saying

688
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,680
Peppers on Clubhouse, we use the
emoji.

689
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,200
It's a pepper so that somebody
wants to speak.

690
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920
That's the notification to me
that someone wants to talk.

691
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,480
So Meg, I have a question for
you.

692
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:11,560
I know on most radio stations
that there is a producer that is

693
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,720
kind of, you know, sifting
through those calls and they

694
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,240
line it up for the on air
personality.

695
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,880
Is that not what you had?
Yeah, you definitely have that,

696
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080
but you have to understand that
there's sometimes people that

697
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,360
say they're going to ask a
question and they ask something

698
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,440
totally, totally different.
So they they line it up for you

699
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,480
And then like there's a there
how it was at the radio station

700
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,360
I was at.
It was like, well, no, actually

701
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,920
on the Internet station too,
both stations have very similar

702
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,560
platforms.
It's like you have Mary from

703
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,200
North Dakota on a line too, and
she has a question about high

704
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,600
cholesterol.
You have Joe on, you know, from

705
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,520
New York, and he has a question
of blah, blah, blah, blah.

706
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Doesn't mean they're going to
ask that question, though.

707
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,840
You got to keep that in mind.
True, true.

708
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,200
You have people who will
sabotage you.

709
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,000
That's like they set out and
they wake up thinking, who am I

710
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,840
going to sabotage today?
So yeah, that is true.

711
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,680
I saw that Jeff wanted to chime
in.

712
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,360
I saw him come off mic.
And then we'll go to Roy Field,

713
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,600
who's joined us on stage.
Jeff, did you want to add

714
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,840
something?
To my earlier point, This is why

715
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,720
I was saying we don't have to
answer everybody's questions

716
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,920
because, you know, whether
they're intentionally trying to

717
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,120
sabotage or not, they may have
formed their question 15 minutes

718
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:35,040
ago and waited for 15 minutes to
ask it, and now the question is

719
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,240
irrelevant.
Or maybe it's been answered

720
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,920
three times, but they haven't
been listening.

721
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,360
They've been thinking about how
what they're going to say for 15

722
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,480
minutes.
I'm reminded of when I was

723
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,880
substitute teaching and I was, I
was working in a kindergarten

724
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,080
class and we were trying to get
the kindergarten class to all

725
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,000
participate in the conversation
we about recycling.

726
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,080
What can you recycle?
And nobody would answer the

727
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,960
question.
Nobody would raise their hand.

728
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,960
And then somebody said slowly
raise their hand.

729
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:11,160
And they said, well, can you
recycle a glass Coke bottle?

730
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Yes, Mark, that's a great
answer.

731
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,960
Well, then everybody's hands
went up and it was a Doctor

732
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,160
Pepper bottle, a Mr. Pip bottle,
a Gatorade bottle.

733
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,080
And that's where I think your
point, Mark, is, is important is

734
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,720
your first burden is to the
audience at large maintaining

735
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:32,280
the conversation, maintaining
the brand, maintaining the flow

736
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,000
of what you're doing.
And you can't do that if you

737
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,520
allow everybody to respond.
Thank you, Jeff.

738
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,640
Thanks for elaborating on that.
Yeah, totally makes sense.

739
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,800
And I'm going to keep it going
and check in with Roy Field.

740
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Roy Field, another person.
It's been a minute.

741
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Welcome back.
And what did you want to add to

742
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,280
the conversation?
Just that for me, my kind of

743
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,600
podcast journey that listeners
being part of the show and you

744
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,360
can physically hear their voices
with such an integral part of me

745
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,120
building community actually is
my second podcast.

746
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,760
My second podcast that I did was
a thing called Dum Dee Dum,

747
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:18,040
which was a fans after show on a
radio soap in the UK and we used

748
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,160
feet pipe so that listeners
could then call in and talk

749
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,040
about their predictions or their
reactions.

750
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,840
And that was such a key way of
building up a very small podcast

751
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,280
up to something where we ended
up doing live shows in the UK.

752
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,120
We did one in Canada, etcetera,
in the time when when I was with

753
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,320
that podcast.
And I think it's an invaluable

754
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,960
tool if you have a small and a
niche community.

755
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,400
Not only does it seem bigger,
but it seems incredibly

756
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,720
intimate.
And then we ended up having meta

757
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,920
conversations.
And one of the most powerful was

758
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,440
at the start of the Russian
invasion of Ukraine because we

759
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,240
had listeners all around the
world.

760
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,560
There's a guy called John, I
think he was an American, who

761
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,240
was a part of the podcast crew.
And for about two months

762
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:09,600
beforehand, he was ringing in
and giving his weekly diagnosis

763
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,360
of what was happening on the
radio, on the soap that we were

764
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,760
obsessively talking about.
And when Russia invaded Ukraine,

765
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,560
he disappeared for two weeks.
You then had on the second week,

766
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,320
people calling in by speed pipes
is not in real time saying,

767
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,080
where is John?
Is he OK The third week?

768
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,000
Then he responded and was so
emotional and he said, I've

769
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,560
moved to Levov with my family.
Did you give that harm's way?

770
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,960
But thank you to the community.
So it's just a small but

771
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
powerful way of showing that if
you're running a small podcast,

772
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,560
if you can as part of your
output, include the voices of

773
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,240
your listeners.
It has an incredibly powerful

774
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,880
effect in terms of all those
people who are isolated listen

775
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,720
to your podcast because they
visibly hear other people.

776
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,920
They feel part of our community,
and then they talk amongst

777
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,760
themselves, not only through
your platform, but then also via

778
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,880
e-mail, etcetera.
Then the last thing I would say

779
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,720
is, well, I no longer do that
podcast, but I've handed it off

780
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:14,480
to other presenters is that we
used during COVID and I know

781
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,520
this stream Yard and other
platforms now, but we just did

782
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,720
it via Zoom.
And that was a very easy way of

783
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:26,040
us having an interview with the
actors of the soap opera.

784
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,520
But then the listeners could
physically see each other

785
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,400
because we put it live also on
YouTube.

786
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,600
But obviously it went out as
audio as well.

787
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,320
And then you could curate who
could actually ask a question

788
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,880
just a very simple but powerful
way and also a a platform which

789
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,000
was very democratic.
Everybody understood Zoom.

790
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,800
So yes, I'm all for using the
listeners as content.

791
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,760
So how much so that I did a
course about it and I've done a

792
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,000
couple of presentations about
your listeners are your content.

793
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,200
It's a very powerful tool.
Thank you, Roy Field.

794
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,640
Yeah, I'm with you, I think.
Look, I've built this whole show

795
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,440
based on utilizing and
including, yes, everybody's

796
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,440
voices.
Yeah.

797
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,240
And it, it works well, I have.
We've built a community on

798
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,520
having a conversation together
through the podcast.

799
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,560
I'm totally with you there.
There's another solution.

800
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,080
If let's say you don't have a
Rd.

801
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Caster Pro 2 or Duo, and let's
say you don't have the budget to

802
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,000
purchase one.
There are other solutions where

803
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,720
you can actually incorporate
people live and, and I'm going

804
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,640
outside of Clubhouse, outside of
Chatter.

805
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,880
This is something that's been
around since 2011.

806
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,200
I've as you know, I've been
around podcasting a little bit

807
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,520
longer than that and I started
using it not too long after

808
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,080
2011.
It's called Call in Studio, Call

809
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,560
in studio.com and this works
like a radio station, but it's

810
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,120
all over the Internet.
You do get a phone number

811
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,640
assigned to you, but it works
like radio in the sense that you

812
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,160
get a screen that shows your
queue of callers.

813
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,880
It even has a caller ID.
So you see the the caller

814
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,400
numbers and if you have a
producer or a call Screener,

815
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,440
that person can interact with
each individual caller.

816
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,400
Find out like we were talking
about earlier, what do you want

817
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,600
to ask, right?
So then the caller gives that

818
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,560
information and then the
producer or Screener can go into

819
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,520
that queue on that screen and
type in the person's name, type

820
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,080
in the question so that you know
as the host who you're going to

821
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,080
next and you can pick and choose
from that.

822
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,080
There's no particular order you
have to go in.

823
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,400
It works very well.
You can get a local number, you

824
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,440
can get a, a toll free number.
It's, I think, very well priced.

825
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:09,600
So we're talking if you are in
the United States, if you want

826
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:15,360
that local number, it's 1099 a
month plus three cents a minute.

827
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,120
And if you want a toll free
number, it jumps up to 1299 and

828
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:26,600
almost 6 cents a minute.
But this, you know, if you have

829
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,600
a thriving community who you
know, wants to interact more,

830
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,120
this could be a great solution.
And again, maybe a more

831
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,440
affordable one than purchasing a
$700.00 Rd.

832
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,800
Caster Pro 2.
And I'm not trying to turn you

833
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,800
away from that because if you
already have the Road Caster Pro

834
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,760
2 or the duo, I would encourage
you to just try it and see what

835
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,920
you think.
Hey Mark, how much is that road

836
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,200
caster?
Well the road caster Pro 2 is

837
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,240
yeah is like 699 I think.
Howie.

838
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,920
Yeah, the duo is a little more
affordable.

839
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:08,560
I think it's like 499 and if I'm
looking at it looks like the

840
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,840
call me.
Yeah, there.

841
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,640
I think you might have to pay
for this call me feature.

842
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,800
I'm not sure 'cause they do show
these three tiers.

843
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,720
They call them Rd.
Call me Light, Rd.

844
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,200
Call me and Road Call Me Pro.
But they don't have any pricing

845
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,200
attached to that structure to
those tiers.

846
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,720
So I'm not sure how that works.
If you have to actually pay

847
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:33,960
more, you do have to register to
use it, which you when you go to

848
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,840
the road call me link, there's a
little Register here button and

849
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,400
you just sign up and I guess
maybe that's where we would find

850
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,320
out.
Let me just see for you.

851
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,880
I was.
Going to say Dr. you should.

852
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,960
You should check apps sumo.
I'm sure they have a deal on a

853
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,760
Rd.
That's only software.

854
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,760
Then you could trade in some of
your points, trade in some of

855
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,280
your points and get out.
I do have a little over $300 on

856
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,560
that in Appsumo Bucks as they
say.

857
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,520
Thank you.
Unfortunately it's Appsumo.

858
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,560
So it's only software, it's not
hardware.

859
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,600
So she can't do that unless
maybe you could get the the

860
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,480
software, the call me software
or something like that.

861
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,840
But anyway, yes, so there are
other features.

862
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,400
I really encourage you if you
are in intrigued by the call

863
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,800
insurance feature where you can
have people call in live, I

864
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,400
would say check in on call in
studio if you don't have a

865
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,760
roadcaster pro.
It works really well.

866
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,440
And it, I don't know, like I've
shared with you before, I'm a

867
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,040
radio file, a radio junkie.
And there's something really

868
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,760
cool about having that screen up
that really resembles a radio

869
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,400
station where you can go and
pick and choose who your

870
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,120
callers, who you're going to
speak to on that caller list.

871
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,800
OK, listen, we only have a few
minutes before the top of the

872
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,320
hour.
And I think this is a good place

873
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,320
to stop, especially because I'm
travelling today.

874
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,920
I'm hitting the road today
heading to Maryland to see some

875
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,160
family, then go to Atlantic City
for a couple days before I go

876
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:08,360
volunteer at that summer camp
for a week with those kids with

877
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,080
the that disability CMT going to
be spending a week making their

878
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,040
lives feel very, very special.
It's going to be a lot of fun.

879
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,400
I can't wait to tell you guys
about it.

880
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,440
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894
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I have a question for you, Mark,

895
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:12,120
before you sign off, you said
that you were travelling today,

896
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,000
so there's are, are we still
doing a show tomorrow?

897
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,280
Yes, I will be.
I will be doing the show most

898
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,240
likely from my car in the
morning, from the driveway of my

899
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:28,720
parents, like I used to do when
I was travelling a lot back and

900
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,120
forth.
Yeah, so I'll have my Zoom P4 on

901
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,600
the ready and yes, we will have
a show tomorrow and that's 7:00

902
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,680
AM Eastern.
So until tomorrow, make it a

903
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,720
great day.
Everybody take care.