330 - Podcasting Hills You'd Die On?

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Good morning, podcasting morning
chat.

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Today is Friday, June 27th,
2025, and today we're talking

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about a spicy one.
What's a podcasting hill you're

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willing to die on?
From editing pet peeves to

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format debates, bring your
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Good morning again, podcasting
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All right, so today I want to
get into this question and get

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people's opinions.
Let's throw this out on the

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table.
What's a podcasting hill you're

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willing to die on?
And I'm talking about that one

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belief or an opinion that you've
got about podcasting that you'll

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defend no matter what, even if
nobody else agrees.

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It could be something like I had
said a moment ago, it could be

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about anything like gear.
Maybe it's growth strategies,

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formats, monetization, whatever.
If it fires you up or you're,

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you find yourself saying it all
the time or thinking it all the

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time, that's probably your hill.
So what is it?

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And I will, I, well, actually, I
was going to say I would start,

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But Dr. seems like she's ready
to roll.

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So, Dr., go for it.
Good morning.

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So I thought of one on my own
and then you kindly gave me a

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little bit of a list that I
thought, oh God, I think I think

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that too.
So the first one is a Trello.

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I am a Trello girl through and
through, and I cannot do an

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episode without there being a
Trello card in front of me with

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one of those little checklists
and tell me what's next and what

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to do.
I love Trello, but as I think

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further, you know this whole
thing about video and you've got

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to, you've got to have video.
No, you don't.

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You don't got to have video.
There are lots of podcasts that

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don't have video that are doing
great.

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Stop stealing mine.
Stop stealing mine.

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That's OK.
I have a feeling I'm not the

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only one on this hill.
I keep falling back on one of my

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mentor's sayings that, you know,
he has made a six figure income

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by not being on YouTube and like
every month he's like double

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Downing on that saying, see,
here's here's the proof and I'm

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double Downing.
So yeah, doubling down, double

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Downing.
Yeah.

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I was going to just question
that, Yes.

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Languaging is.
Hard way to throw my one of my

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words back at me.
Yeah, OK, well, thank you DRI

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appreciate that and I hopefully
that gets the juices flowing for

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some people and by the way, if
you're listening live, come up

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and share and I appreciate you
sharing also in the chat.

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I see, Dave, you've said that
your answer here is podcasting

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should never be done alone.
And I would love to hear you

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come up and share more.
And if you can't, then put it in

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the chat.
But I would love to hear more on

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that.
And then Adam says it's your

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podcast, do it however you want.
That's a hill that I would join

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you on.
Adam, I think that I was just

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having this conversation
yesterday again with somebody

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and it wasn't even necessarily
podcast related.

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Because I think this can apply
to so many areas of our lives

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where there's so much
information, so much advice out

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there about any given thing.
And there are usually

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conflicting pieces of advice out
there.

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And whether it's conflicting or
just a plethora of different

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tips and strategies.
I think that can be a recipe

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sometimes for overwhelm and
maybe even freezing and not

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doing anything with all of the
information because you just

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have so much and you don't know
which direction to go.

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Guilty.
I'm one of those people that can

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get wrapped up in so much advice
that then I just freeze and

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don't do anything.
Thankfully, with podcasting, I

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think that I don't do that
often.

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I think that it really does come
down to what feels right to me.

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If there's a strategy, a new
strategy I hear, does it

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resonate with me?
And if it doesn't, don't force

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it.
I can maybe keep a list, which I

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sometimes do keep a list of some
advice that I've heard that

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maybe it made me cock my head a
little bit, but it didn't move

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the needle enough for me to want
to take action on it.

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But I'll keep that list there in
case I want to revisit it at

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some point.
And that tends to alleviate the

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pressure of having to do it
right now because at least I

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know it exists somewhere, and I
can go back to it at another

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time.
So what else?

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If you could make every
podcaster follow a rule, what

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would it be?
I want to hear from somebody on

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stage, like, besides me and Dr.
And then I'll share another one

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of mine.
Yeah.

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Amanda, good morning.
Go ahead.

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I would say just start.
Like it drives me nuts when

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people just don't start.
And I know Sid, I don't think

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Stacy Sherman would mind me
using her as an example.

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But Sid, do you remember the
hours and the days that she

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would spend leading up to like,
it was like a year leading up to

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her podcast?
She just was so worried about

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every single detail and doing it
100% right, which we know

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there's no 100% right way.
It's just getting it done and

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putting it out there.
And I mean, she got in her own

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way.
And I think it was really until

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Dominic said in one of the
rooms, he said, you know, you

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got to bet on yourself.
And it like almost hit her in

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the head to the point where that
was what she needed to hear to

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really, like, RIP off the
Band-Aid and go.

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And that woman has been like
just grinding and doing all the

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things and invited to LinkedIn
to do training videos or

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something like that there.
And she's speaking and she's

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traveling all over the place.
So had she just not finally

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started, who knows what she
would be doing right now?

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Yeah, you know, but it took her
a solid.

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I mean, Sid, wouldn't you say?
Like it was like a year of her

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joining us in the mornings.
I.

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Was late.
It was at least here.

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Good morning, everybody.
And it's a great recommend.

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It's a great reminder.
I mean, yeah, it was at least a

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year.
And I've heard Stacy talk about

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that on podcasts, episodes that
she's been a guest on.

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She's talked about it here, too.
Being stuck.

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Yeah.
Say that again.

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She's talked about it here too,
a few times.

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Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, just being stuck in that

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and scared to open the box,
scared to get started.

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I think it's great.
We have another one of those in

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our midst now to Mark.
Oh yes.

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I didn't want to use that
example.

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It just felt so rude.
So I was like, you know what,

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Henry, all of you, I'm pretty.
No, no, sad story.

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Actually she has like 12
episodes in the can.

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I think she does.
She does, she just doesn't

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release them.
Thank you.

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That's.
True too.

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That's true too.
I did.

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I did 20 episodes that I'm still
sitting on.

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She's a closet podcaster.
Yes.

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Yeah, she's a private podcaster.
She does podcasts for herself.

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Go ahead, Dr. It's true.
Guilty.

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Guilty.
Guilty.

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Yes, but I believe, I believe
Dr. is launching in a handful of

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weeks, isn't that right?
Yeah.

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I thought she played January of
2020.

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Well, that is, she did say that
originally, yes.

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Or was it 1825?
I'm not really sure, Yeah.

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I.
Know, but I think that's a a

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great 1 Amanda really just just
press record, just start.

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And I think that kind of ties in
some cases anyway, to what we

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were just talking about Adam's
answer in the chat about

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information overload.
And I would say this if Stacy

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was here too, I think Stacy can
at least historically, I don't

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know about currently, but in the
past, Stacy tends to be a person

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who collects so much information
and does her due diligence, does

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her homework.
But I think to the point where

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then it's so much that she got
overwhelmed and was afraid to

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press start.
So sometimes it's it does just.

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I guess the advice would be
simplify it for yourself, just

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make it as simple as possible.
Go ahead, Sid.

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Sinead, when he was here a few
weeks ago, talked about having

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Oh my gosh, Mark, come here with
the with the guy's name the

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famous guy had on the show.
Oh, a Pat Flynn.

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Pat Flynnn, thank you.
And he had Pat Flynn on his show

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and they talked about this in
episode about information

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overload or learning too much.
And I think that's he, Pat Flynn

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talked about I'm going to
butcher this.

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He had a name for it.
He talked about this, I think he

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called it a rule of three or
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And you basically learn 5 things
and then you implement and just

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stop learning just like go and
do it.

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He has a, he has a name for
this.

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And I can't believe I don't
remember it because I thought,

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wow, that's a really great
episode.

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But we all get stuck in that.
No, something like that.

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Nick, I have to go find that
Lean learning.

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I just saw it in the chat Lean
learning.

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Yeah, that's the name of the
book.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And about how you just take the
things you've learned and, and

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lean into those and do those
things and take action.

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Because I think all of us can
get caught up in, well, I need

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to learn this, I need to learn
that and I need to figure out

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how to do this.
If you got to do that, actually,

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no, you just need to get started
to the point you need to get

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started and you need to take
action because there's a lot of

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learning that comes from action.
Thank you, Sid.

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Yeah, I'm really excited to dig
into Pat's book because I, I

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really, I agree.
I think it speaks exactly to

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what we're talking about.
And I love the idea of picking

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whatever that magic number is,
whether it's five things, three

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things, picking a few things
that you feel like you can

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tackle and just focus there and
stop worrying about all the

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other things.
We've got to, we've got to pick

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something and start taking
action on it if we want to move

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the needle.
And just collecting information

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really doesn't do a whole heck
of a lot, except maybe makes you

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sound like you know what you're
talking about.

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But experience does play a role
in knowing what you talk, what

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you're talking about, in my
opinion.

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OK, who else?
Anyone else want to share any

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ideas?
Maybe it's an editing hack.

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Maybe you feel like editing out
all the Umm's and Ah's is a

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must.
Maybe you feel like it should

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never happen.
I have one, but Ashley put

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something in the chat she wanted
to go.

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So Ashley, you go 1st and then
I'll go.

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OK, Thanks.
Sid.

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I've been thinking of how to
phrase this and it's more of an

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attitude towards not naming your
podcast as if it's an inside

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joke with yourself.
And the reason I bring this up

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is because I'm so guilty of
that.

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With my first podcast, the Saint
Andrews Jezebel podcast, that

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name was only meaningful to me.
It really didn't have much

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meaning outside of my immediate
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Also, there's several other
Saint Andrews in the world, so

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it really wasn't an effective
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So a hell that I'll die on is be
very intentional.

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Of.
What you name your podcast?

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Thank you, Ashley.
I love that.

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I put out a video about that
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beginning of this week about
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overall title.
It can be for your episode

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titles too.
I am very guilty of that.

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From my old podcast, The Mark
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title just about was an inside
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that we titled our episodes was
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shared, something that was said
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episode to know to to understand
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I feel like it is a clever thing
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I used to name my episodes that
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Black, and I'm 99% sure that's
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during the episode.
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especially for a newer podcast.
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established podcast with an
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probably get away with that, but
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far as discoverability,
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I love that one.
Thank you, Ashley and Sid, I'm

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going to come to you in a
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I'm going to go to one of our
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Jeff, good morning.
Welcome back to the stage.

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What did you want to add?
Did you want to answer this

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question?
What's a podcasting hill you die

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on?
I have a few.

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One we've discussed.
If you're speaking in a podcast

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conference and your advice is
you should be on all the

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platforms, you should be
immediately removed from that

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conference.
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Giving such obvious advice, and
that's 1/2 is I do think, while

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I agree that you don't need
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hill that you need to be on
YouTube, which technically is a

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video format but it doesn't have
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people when they say that mean a
visual of the people talking or

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some kind of thing.
YouTube is a huge search engine

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for and for podcast discovery,
and it's important that your

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shows be on YouTube, even if
it's not a video of the actual

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interview itself and just the
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And then I will say that I think
removing the odds and the arms

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and the long pauses and fixing
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constructive reality of still
what happened, but that's easier

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on the ears for the person
listening is important.

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I think when you start to remove
eyes, arms and horribly long

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deep breaths, you can realize
that you can cut sometimes,

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depending on the length of the
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minutes, if not 10 minutes out
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And you know, when we talk about
making the front of the

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interview short, are the intros
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But we're OK leaving, you know,
so much dead air spread

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throughout.
I think it weighs on people's

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ears and it actually is a
subconscious deterrent.

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So I spend time doing it.
I also realize that I'm probably

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crazy, but anyway.
But that's.

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Well, I don't think you're crazy
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are on that hill with you.
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people that are on the opposite
hill that feel like, no, don't

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edit all those out.
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medium.
So I'm curious, like, are you

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editing out every UMM and every
AH and every extremely long

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pause, or are you being
selective about it?

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you can't because it will

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disrupt the video or the audio.
I mean, you know what I mean?

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Like if I'm talking, then I'm
talking, you know, I mean, like,

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you can't cut that out, you know
what I'm saying?

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But if I'm talking and it's more
like a filler thought, oh, Mark,

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that green frog that you love,
you know what I mean?

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Nobody has to hear that, you
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what I mean?
Like, yeah, that can be edited,

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you know what I mean?
Like and like, so those are the

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types of things I think deep
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I think if once you hear a deep
breath, it haunts you and anyone

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who can watch the news and
anything where I did that to my

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wife, once I'm like, listen, she
goes, what are you talking

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about?
Like, listen for that deep

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breath where they go and like
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So they once she heard it, she
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And so, so it's just, it's just
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that's.
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm kind of

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with you, Jeff.
I mean, I at least I used to be

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when especially with my old
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about every, umm and ah,
occasionally, like you said, we

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sometimes swallow those filler
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I think that eventually we
become pretty experienced

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editors and I think we start to
learn really like what, what

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kind of or what kind of filler
word is it OK to leave in or

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really what instance is it OK?
And in other instances, we may

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find, yeah, you got to take it
out just because it's kind of

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disruptive to the show or it
slows it down.

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Agree 100.
Percent.

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Yeah, right.
Thanks, Jeff.

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Appreciate that.
And DRI saw you wanted to add on

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to something.
Go ahead.

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I'm in the kitchen, but I
couldn't resist.

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So I just got through editing a
show that has an adult host and

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his two teenage guests.
And I, I gotta tell ya, there's,

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there was some major editing
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So like, like, like, like, you
know, like, like, Oh my God,

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just just about killed me.
I don't know about you guys, but

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as somebody who's been editing
podcasts for a long time, do you

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notice that when you're having
regular conversations with

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people off air, not with, not on
a podcast, do you notice that

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you kind of mentally are editing
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I do that, like no offense to my
lovely wife, but I do notice she

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uses umm, a lot.
Particularly I I think I'm where

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I notice it most is when she's
on work calls and and she's

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clearly saying it to fill the
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It's, it's obvious to me that
she's saying it because she's

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uncomfortable with the silence
and I so badly while when I hear

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her on the calls, I so badly
want to like call it out in the

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moment, but I don't because I
don't want to be disruptive.

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I don't want to throw her or the
call off.

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But you know, occasionally I
will have to say something

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afterwards.
Like, hey, pay attention to when

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you're talking, how many times
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But yeah, I'm doing a lot of
editing in real life mentally in

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my head, and not just with her.
I I just noticed that.

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And same thing with the likes.
I when I hear somebody using the

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word like so many times, I am
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It's a blessing and a curse.
All right.

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Who else?
Oh, Sid, Yes.

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Let's check in.
You said you had an answer to

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what's a podcasting hill you're
willing to die on?

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Go for it.
And good morning again,

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everybody.
I think to be a podcaster, you'd

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have to be a consumer of
podcasts to a lot of people who

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are starting a podcast that have
never listened to 1 And I think

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to be a podcaster, you have to
be a consumer of podcast.

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I like that one.
I mean, I've certainly had.

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I love that one.
I love.

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That I've had some clients that
admittedly come to me.

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I want to start a podcast.
I don't really listen to

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podcasts now maybe I I don't
think I've ever had a client

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that said I've never heard a
single podcast, but they aren't

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regular listeners of them.
And and then one of my first

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homework assignments for them is
to go find a few podcasts that

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speak to the same target
audience that they want to speak

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to and then they're willing to
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And this reminds me of another
question that has rubbed me the

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wrong way in the past and DRI
think actually, I saw it again

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recently by your mentor that you
mentioned earlier, Adam, he

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posted on threads that you must
Oh, and I think I called it out

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and I mentioned it to you, Dr.
He he called, he said you must.

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If you're going to be a podcast
producer, a podcast coach or

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consultant you've had, you have
to have.

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Had a podcast?
Yeah, you have to have a podcast

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or to be a coach of podcasters
and I yes.

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That's what it says.
Yeah, I firmly disagree with

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that.
And before I rant about that, I

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saw Amanda wanted to chime in.
So go for it, Amanda.

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I'm laughing at this because
just this morning I was

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listening to a podcast to sits
point.

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If you're a podcaster, you
should listen to them.

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And it's from, it was about a
like a shop, a retail shop

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podcast.
And she no longer has a retail

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shop And she, I had found her on
TikTok and I'm like, I'll go

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listen to an episode or two.
But there was something about

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her not currently having a
retail shop that I, I debated.

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Did I want to move forward
listening to this episode?

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Because unless you're in the
thick of it, do you really know

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the current challenges a shop
owner is going through?

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Do you really have the advice
that Amanda Sharp needs in 2025

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if you haven't had a brick and
mortar shop since I don't know

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how many years?
So there's it's so funny that

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you're saying this, but in in
the aspect of podcasting,

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because I just had that thought.
So I feel like my thought might

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apply the same way if I was
thinking about it from a

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podcasting, you know, management
company or something like that.

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I feel like you almost have to
at least have had one to have

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the authority to speak on it.
But that's just me, so I'm just

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laughing at myself.
I just have to share.

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Thank you.
Yeah, and that's an unusual

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coincidence for sure.
Jonathan Howard is on stage.

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Jonathan, good morning.
Did you want to add to this?

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I just wanted to add to Amanda
and it kind of applies, I guess

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to the podcasting, but what if
they had 20 years of of retail

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location and then they've been
out of it for five years?

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I mean, I've worked retail for
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No, and I agree.
And that's why I really, it was

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an internal struggle, Jonathan.
Like I was going, but this is a

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very weird time to be a shop
owner, right?

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But I guess the how you react
within a struggling economy is

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the same whether it be 2025 or
2007.

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So to your point, So yeah, it
and I listen to the episode at

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the end of the day, I really
did.

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But there was that internal
struggle of me going.

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Does she have authority now to
tell me what to do?

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But I did give her a chance
because like, to your point, she

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had been in retail and had a
shop for many, many years.

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So I gave it a listen and I'm
glad I did right then.

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Same for podcasts.
If you were podcast over 20

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years and now you don't have a
podcast, you still have a ton of

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knowledge that most people don't
have.

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So I don't know, that's just my
thought.

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Yeah, maybe she should have a Co
host that is a current shop

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owner, sage wisdom of someone
who's been in it for a long time

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and the new owner that is going
through the thick of it.

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I mean, I see where that could
work, I just.

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Think if you've got the sage
wisdom, why can't that stand on

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its own?
Because business is forever

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evolving.
I mean, look at the whole tariff

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situation.
But the challenges are always

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the same.
We're gaining weight too.

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Often.
No, it's OK.

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I like this because it all
applies.

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It all applies.
So wait, let's Alex will come to

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you in a second.
Amanda, go ahead.

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But tying it back to the
podcast, exactly like what Dr.

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just said, I mean the the
marketing of a podcast has

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changed the tools that a
podcaster uses.

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So a current is having a current
podcast as somebody who is

447
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coaching important as opposed to
somebody who did it 10 years

448
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560
because some of the practices
that they did in 10 years ago

449
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,120
kind of irrelevant.
So I can see both sides for sure

450
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,880
in having a real life example of
how my mind thought that this

451
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,440
morning just so timely.
And, you know, podcasts that

452
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,520
say, you know, if you were
podcasting 10 years ago and now

453
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,640
you're teaching podcasters,
podcasting has changed over the

454
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,120
past 10 years considerably,
right?

455
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,680
And you know, if we're using
this as an example, that

456
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:42,240
podcaster who's now teaching
others, that podcaster has

457
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,840
experience.
And if they have a business

458
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,720
where they're helping podcasters
to this day, they still have

459
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,240
experience in the industry, a
current experience in this

460
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,840
industry.
And I so, you know, I think it

461
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,040
that's irrelevant, at least in
podcasting, but I think, you

462
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,760
know, in as same thing as far as
business goes, right?

463
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Like, yeah, you maybe you owned
a business for a bunch of years

464
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080
and you've been out of the game
now for a handful of years.

465
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080
But over those handful of years
you've been out of it, you're

466
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,640
still showing other people how
to do it.

467
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,720
You have to stay up to date if
you're going to be good at that.

468
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,840
I know Sid really wants to chime
in.

469
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,680
Go ahead, Sid, and then we'll go
to Alex.

470
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,680
Thank you, Mark.
So my comment to this is that if

471
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,240
you have experience in doing
something and you did something

472
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,320
for a really long time and then
you stop doing it, now you're

473
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,920
teaching people to do that
thing, whatever that thing is,

474
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,640
whether it's podcasting or
running a retail store or

475
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,760
selling office furniture, right?
As long as you maintain

476
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,840
connection to that industry, as
long as you are a student to

477
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,360
that end of that industry, as
long as you keep up with what's

478
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,600
happening to Amanda's point,
what's happening in retail in

479
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,440
that industry, right, and you're
continuing to learn about the

480
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,760
industry even though you might
not be doing it, then I do

481
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,560
believe you're qualified to talk
about it.

482
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,280
But I think the key here is you
have to continue to be a student

483
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,080
of that industry about that all
the time.

484
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,040
On my show, being a student of
the office furniture industry, I

485
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,840
really haven't sold furniture in
a long time.

486
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,160
But I talked about selling
furniture all the time because I

487
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,840
keep up with it.
I'm read about it, I'm in the

488
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,520
know, I listen to podcast about
it, right?

489
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,320
I keep up with the trends and
things that are happening.

490
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,520
So I think you have to be a
student of that industry in

491
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,320
order to continue to talk about
and provide advice to people who

492
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,080
are doing something in that
industry.

493
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,280
Boom.
Yeah, I agree.

494
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,840
I agree with you Sid.
And I have another thought.

495
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,120
I'm going to bite my tongue and
let some others share 1st and

496
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,840
then I'll go ahead.
Alex, what did you want to add?

497
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,280
Good morning.
I think that it kind of summed

498
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,160
it up really well.
I'm a firm believer, just

499
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,600
because you're not on the cusp
of all the latest and greatest,

500
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,560
you can talk about a subject.
And the way I look at it is as a

501
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:05,120
host, if you're bringing people
in, then you're also a student

502
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,120
as well as an expert.
And maybe that's a different way

503
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,600
of looking at it.
For instance, if you wanted to

504
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,120
start a, a real estate podcast,
Amanda, you could probably do it

505
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,200
even though you've been out of
the business for probably about

506
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,280
almost a year.
But you could go along the lines

507
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,320
of bringing the people in that
are the experts and then

508
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,760
bringing your knowledge of
weight, you do it.

509
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,680
And that's kind of the way I
look at a lot of this is because

510
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,240
a lot of people talk about a lot
of topics that they just happen

511
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,480
to love and they're not in the
trenches.

512
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,080
I think that you do have to put
your work in to this point.

513
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,680
You, you have to be around that
industry.

514
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,120
But at the same time, that's why
you have guests to further the

515
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,200
conversation, to get people to
be more knowledgeable about it.

516
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,240
Now, if you're just a single
person just talking about

517
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,080
whatever the heck you want to
talk about, that's a different

518
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,400
story.
But I really do believe that a

519
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,960
true guess, whether it's an
Oprah, O'Donoghue, whoever, they

520
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,280
have no clue about all the
different topics, but they just

521
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,360
further the conversation.
And I think that's where I

522
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,880
believe a lot of podcasting can
go.

523
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,800
And maybe that's not the right
way of looking at it, but you

524
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,680
kept bringing up the television.
I think Jeff was talking about

525
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,080
the television example, and I
think that's kind of where I'm

526
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800
looking at it.
Yeah, No, I think that's a good

527
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,800
point.
Yeah, I think you're stressing

528
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,960
these points.
Yeah.

529
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,800
And I know Nick wants to add
something, too.

530
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,520
And we also have Sharon here,
and I'm sure, Alex, you can

531
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,720
you'll connect with this too
'cause I know you are a fan of

532
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,880
the NFL.
And Ashley put in the chat, you

533
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,080
know, it's like saying you can't
be a soccer coach if you didn't

534
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,640
play soccer.
And I was thinking about that,

535
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320
too.
With the NFL, there are plenty

536
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,800
of coaches that have never
played the game of football in

537
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,240
the NFL at the professional
level level.

538
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,440
And as matter of fact, I believe
Bill Belichick, New England

539
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,840
Patriots coach long time that
you know side by side with Tom

540
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,280
Brady.
For those of you who may not

541
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,440
recognize the name for some
reason never played football and

542
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,400
has won I think the most Super
Bowls out of any coach in NFL

543
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320
history.
So I think that can apply in

544
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040
podcasting and office furniture
wherever I think it the same

545
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,120
thing can apply it.
Look, I think it helps.

546
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,560
I'm not saying it doesn't help
if if you're a pod, if you've

547
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,280
been a podcaster and now you're
teaching podcasters, yes, it

548
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,440
100% helps.
And I believe there are people

549
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,240
out there that can still do it
well, even having not podcasted.

550
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,120
Maybe there are podcast
listeners, you know, avid

551
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240
listeners and they've learned a
lot about podcasting through all

552
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,440
the shows they listen to.
Yes, Alex, I think, I think the

553
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,800
problem is nowadays people just
want the facts.

554
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,360
And it's hard for people to, I
mean, and that's just, it's just

555
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,440
the nature of the business.
We're so hyper focused on

556
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240
everything.
We just want to Google and get

557
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,440
the answer.
And, and I think that's part of

558
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,120
the problem too.
And sometimes the answer isn't a

559
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840
straight line, but that's just
like a lot of people's journey.

560
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960
So I think that that's a big
problem as they use a lot of

561
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,520
likes as well for Dr. Thank you,
Alex.

562
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,280
And what is this?
What is this Google you speak

563
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,960
of?
I only know of AI when I'm

564
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,000
looking for answers.
I don't know of this Google

565
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,000
thing.
It's this thing.

566
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,320
I don't know it.
It used to be called Yahoo and

567
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,720
then it used to be called Ask
Jeeves.

568
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Anyone remember that one?
OK, Sharon, I'm coming to you

569
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,800
and then I'm going to go to
Nick.

570
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,000
Go ahead, Sharon.
Good morning.

571
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Hey, Mark, I hope you're well.
I just want to thank you for

572
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,360
your YouTube channel.
I've been watching it, watching

573
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440
it primarily your short.
Thank you.

574
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,280
So I just inspire encourage you
to keep going, keep going.

575
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,040
Yes.
And also, Mark, another thank

576
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,040
you to you for your, I listened
to the podcast from yesterday.

577
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,480
I think it was may have been the
day before, but you talked about

578
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,760
the Signal Hill podcast report
and I did download that from my

579
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,880
community.
So thank you for again for

580
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,120
mentioning that.
You're welcome.

581
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,600
But I wanted, yes, I wanted to
talk about what everybody's been

582
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,680
talking about.
I wanted to just expand on it

583
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,040
and particularly what Amanda
would say.

584
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Amanda, great points.
You made everybody make great

585
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,760
points.
Amanda reminded me of this.

586
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,880
I started writing some notes
when she was speaking.

587
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,200
I was like she was right on
regarding her, the entrepreneur

588
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,880
person that she followed.
It reminds me of this.

589
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,920
I have people in my my
membership and one speaks to

590
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,800
single people.
She helps them become engaged

591
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,120
and get married and she's no
longer married.

592
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,720
She was married twice to her
ex-husband and she's been

593
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
divorced for a number of years.
Is she an authority?

594
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,880
Absolutely she is.
And then I talked.

595
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,640
I I thought about the retired
NBA player or, or NFL players

596
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,719
been retired for maybe maybe it
was in the NFL for 10 years,

597
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,159
maybe been retired for five.
Are we not going to say you can

598
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,560
coach my kids, right, right.
So I, yeah.

599
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,360
So what I'm thinking about is
that this all depends on the

600
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:28,239
delivery of the person, what
their focus is on and what we

601
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,520
can, how we can benefit from
their message, how they are

602
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,920
marketing themselves.
And and then I think Jeff, I

603
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,280
think Jeff said this or maybe it
was Alex regarding people

604
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,719
wanting to get straight to the
point.

605
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,719
And that's true.
Even when we podcast, we get

606
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,679
right to the point, but we can
come right back around to

607
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,400
historic data that can be
relevant and helpful to people

608
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:58,040
because history and foundations,
they do mean something.

609
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,000
So that's my take on it.
This is a great discussion.

610
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,400
Thank you so much.
Thank you.

611
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,400
And I appreciate your take on
this as well.

612
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,520
And that was I was thinking,
yeah, I mean, I same kind of

613
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,880
thing as what as your example, I
was thinking, you know, there

614
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,600
are plenty of people that go to
marriage counseling and the

615
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,120
therapist or counselor is
divorced.

616
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,400
And, you know, on the service
level, I kind of get like, you

617
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,640
know, should I be going to this
counselor if they're divorced?

618
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,440
But at the same time, they
they've learned, I'm sure a lot

619
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,400
in their own experience about
what what I don't want to say a

620
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,720
bad marriage, but what a failed
marriage is what happens in a

621
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,000
failed, failed marriage?
What happens to a failed

622
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,880
marriage?
That that therapist, that

623
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,400
counselor certainly has some
experience about what works and

624
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,440
what doesn't.
But yeah, on the service level,

625
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,200
I would, you know, I might tilt
my head at first, like, do I

626
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,680
want to go to this counselor if
they've been divorced?

627
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,920
But yes, of course they've got
experience.

628
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,280
Experience is the key.
Nick, you wanted to add

629
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,120
something?
Go ahead.

630
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,320
Yeah.
Good morning.

631
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,200
I first wanted to highlight a
comment that Michael put in the

632
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,400
chat, which I think is important
for this conversation.

633
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,480
He said an expert is someone who
simply knows more than their

634
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,520
audience.
And I think that is 100% spot on

635
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,680
because, yeah, maybe you have
experience editing podcasts and

636
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,800
you're teaching someone who has
never edited a podcast before in

637
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,280
their life and they want to
learn.

638
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,800
They don't know what programs
you use or anything like that to

639
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,760
them.
You are.

640
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Very much an expert you might
not have all the insurance and

641
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,640
outs of marketing a podcast or
maybe interviewing things like

642
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,960
that, but to some degree and to
some level you are an expert.

643
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,760
You know more than the people
that you are speaking to or that

644
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,600
you are reaching with your
services and that you can't take

645
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,440
that away.
Whether you've done a podcast

646
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,880
for a year, you've never done a
podcast and you just love to

647
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,200
learn about what podcasts seem
like, how the industry works.

648
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,160
You know more than somebody.
And if you are speaking to that

649
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,000
audience that doesn't know
anything, you are qualified to

650
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,520
help them in my opinion.
But second note to all of that,

651
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,680
like I agree.
Like there is something to

652
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,080
having the experience or when I,
whenever I look for coaches and

653
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,200
things like that, like I
typically am looking for someone

654
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,960
who has experience in the thing
that I'm looking for.

655
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,600
But everyone's situation is
unique, everyone's circumstances

656
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,680
for their podcast or their
business, whatever is different.

657
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,960
And just because Mark has a
successful podcast production

658
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,320
company doesn't necessarily mean
that my podcast is going to be a

659
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,760
success if I go to him.
And I guess the, the main point

660
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,040
that I was trying to make with
this is like maybe Mark has a

661
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,520
podcast about, it's like a
comedy podcast, thinking about

662
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,760
the Mark Lowell show, kind of
more comedy talkative podcast.

663
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320
Maybe I have a business podcast.
They're two very separate

664
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,640
podcasts.
But that doesn't mean that

665
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:07,720
Mark's knowledge is any less
helpful as a podcast coach

666
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,680
because he's in the podcast
industry.

667
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,840
And yeah, I think I'm starting
to ramble and lose my train of

668
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,240
thought here.
Well, I'm, I'm getting you.

669
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,120
I'm following you just.
Yeah, you're saying just maybe

670
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,040
the different genres, just
because they're different genres

671
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,440
that we're working and doesn't
make one person any less

672
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,800
knowledgeable or experienced
than the other.

673
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,440
And that that kind of fights to
that.

674
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,560
The point of that post that you
said where if you don't have a

675
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,880
podcast, you can't be a coach
because every situation is

676
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,680
unique.
You might have a podcast and you

677
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,560
still might not be able to help
the person next to you and you

678
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,520
might not have a podcast, but
you have knowledge that is able

679
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,600
to help that person next to you.
So it's I don't think it's a an

680
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,840
all-encompassing truth
statement.

681
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,960
Agreed.
Agreed.

682
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,240
And sometimes when I see people
make those kinds of statements

683
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,800
on social media, I feel like
they're just doing it to bait

684
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,920
people in, to get people to
comment, to get people riled up.

685
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,680
I'm not necessarily saying it
was Adam doing that Dr., but I

686
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000
do think some people just put
those out there just to get a

687
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,680
rise.
He actually really feels that

688
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,320
way, so.
I know he does.

689
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,120
I know he does.
Yeah.

690
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,040
And I know Julie is joining us
on stage here.

691
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,200
Let me see if I can get her up
to.

692
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,160
Maybe I'll give her the final
word.

693
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,600
Julie, you want to come up here?
Let me try to get her up here.

694
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,160
Let's see if we can do that.
And then we are going to get to

695
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,280
our wins from this past week.
Hello, Julie.

696
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Go for it.
Hi I.

697
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,960
I'm sorry, I just want to make
sure I'm clear about the, the

698
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,520
what you were talking about.
It's about like do you have

699
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,840
enough experience to be a coach
or a trainer?

700
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Is that kind of where we were?
Going Yeah, well, so.

701
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Yeah.
So today the question, the main

702
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,280
questions been what's a
podcasting hill you're willing

703
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,200
to die on?
And we got to somebody's hill.

704
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,240
Nobody here in particular, but
there is a common hill that I've

705
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:05,040
heard people standing on where
they say.

706
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,960
You can't be a podcast coach or
trainer or producer if you've

707
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,320
never had a podcast.
Oh, OK, that's interesting.

708
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,360
You know what I see?
This is so funny because I am,

709
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,480
I'm trained as a coach.
So there is, and I'm, I'm sure

710
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,520
all of you know this, there's
this ICF certification for

711
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,520
coaching and then there's like,
so you, you train just to become

712
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,400
a coach and you train just to
become a trainer and an

713
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,040
instructional designer.
That's like a discipline.

714
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,680
And then all the other stuff
that you add on to it is an

715
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,960
expertise.
And as a trainer, like when you

716
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,280
get paid at work, you have to
learn the thing they want you to

717
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,880
train on.
You don't always know it, you

718
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,080
know, and so you then you have
to learn the actual skill that

719
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,880
you're training on.
So I think it's a really

720
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,720
interesting conversation because
it's kind of like both, right?

721
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,520
You I, I've been podcasting for
three years and I'm a coach and

722
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,880
a trainer.
I'm I'm well positioned to be

723
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,360
somebody's and trainer and
coach.

724
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,640
And so I don't always just think
of it as coaching because a lot

725
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,840
of the times you're training
somebody and they're really

726
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,640
different.
They're different disciplines,

727
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,360
but you kind of add them all
together and you just call

728
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,320
yourself a coach, you know?
So I just think the whole

729
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,320
concept is fascinating because
you know, as a trainer

730
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,840
especially, you never feel like
an expert because you're always

731
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,600
trying to learn the next thing
you have to train somebody on.

732
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,720
And so I just wanted to throw
that out there as we're having

733
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:44,680
this conversation because those
words are really interesting to

734
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,320
me.
They mean different things.

735
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,760
And so when I work with someone,
I tell them I'm a trainer, I'm a

736
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,280
coach and I'm a consultant.
And so in this conversation, I'm

737
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,880
going to wear multiple hats with
you.

738
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,040
But I want you to understand
when I'm doing the different

739
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,320
things because coaching is me
asking you a lot of questions

740
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,560
and you and answering them back
so that you can have some sort

741
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,160
of change in perspective or
transformation.

742
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,960
You know, training is me
teaching you something that you

743
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,360
didn't know, like the discipline
of it.

744
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,760
And consulting is like me giving
you my opinion and my my

745
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,840
expertise and knowledge, my
mentoring in that part of it.

746
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,760
So I just think that it's a very
interesting conversation.

747
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,680
I'll end it there.
Yeah, yeah.

748
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,280
Thank you.
I all good points and good

749
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
distinctions to point out as
well.

750
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,440
And other good points, 1 coming
from Mike Short in the chat

751
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160
saying most news producers were
never an anchor.

752
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,400
And yeah, that's a great point.
They may not have ever been a

753
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,480
field reporter either.
And name, as a matter of fact,

754
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,120
may have just always started in
on their career in that

755
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,440
production, on that production
side of things, never being in

756
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,880
front of a camera, never holding
the microphone.

757
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,920
And there's some pretty damn
good producers who'd have no

758
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,960
experience on the camera side of
things.

759
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,400
And Jeff, I I don't know Jeff,
if Ted Lasso counts, even

760
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,240
though, yes, you're right, he
never coached soccer.

761
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,920
But I think we're, we're, I
think we got to talk about real

762
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,400
people.
And I know Jeff has left, but

763
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,120
yeah, Jeff put that in the chat
before he left.

764
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Ted Lasso is not real.

765
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,040
No, Sid, he's not real.
Oh man, I've learned so much

766
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,680
from Ted.
Well, that's OK.

767
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,440
You can still learn from him.
The content is very real.

768
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Yeah, but I don't think we can
use him as a solid example.

769
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,600
All right, let's go ahead and
share our wins from this past

770
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,680
week.
We will take the last 10-15

771
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,720
minutes or so to share our wins
from this week.

772
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Now is your time.
Come up and join us.

773
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Thank you Chris for coming up
and joining us this morning.

774
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,800
And anyone else here listening
live on Clubhouse, hit that

775
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,120
raise hand button and we will
have you come up and share any

776
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,880
wins from your week, big or
small.

777
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,720
We don't judge the size, you're
judging the size.

778
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,280
So stop doing that and come up
and whatever that win is this

779
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,480
week, let's celebrate it.
It deserves to be recognized.

780
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,480
We deserve to stop and smell
those roses.

781
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,560
So what we're going to do is I'm
going to actually ask our guests

782
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:35,360
on stage to go 1st and then
we'll go to our moderators from

783
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,840
there.
Sharon, good morning again.

784
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,720
Please share a win or two with
us from your week this week.

785
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,000
OK?
I decided to publish to podcast

786
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,160
this week.
Pros and cons regarding posting

787
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,600
podcast twice a week?
However, I'm going to do it

788
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
until I'm not doing it.
And then to me, that's a wind.

789
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,640
A wind.
Awesome.

790
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,080
Congratulations.
So when you say 2 podcasts, do

791
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,360
you specifically mean two
podcast episodes or are they new

792
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,040
podcasts?
Yes, Mark, 2 episodes, 2

793
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,360
episodes.
Very cool.

794
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,640
And so is is that now from what
I'm hearing you say that's

795
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,920
something that you're going to
continue to do moving forward

796
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:12,880
perhaps.
OK.

797
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,520
Sure.
OK, cool.

798
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,760
Well, congratulations.
That's not an easy thing to do.

799
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,000
If you're on a schedule of say,
once a week, adding that extra

800
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,480
one in there can feel like a lot
sometimes.

801
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640
And congratulations for getting
through that.

802
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,000
Julie coming to you, please
share any wins from your week.

803
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,920
Well, I had a lot of different
new conversations with new

804
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,560
potential clients, so that would
be my win for the week.

805
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,320
Love it.
Love it.

806
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Congratulations.
I have a similar win I will

807
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,840
share momentarily.
Congratulations Julie and Chris,

808
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120
welcome to the stage and welcome
back.

809
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,360
I know you've been in and out
lately and you know we all have

810
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,040
life to do, so welcome back.
Good to have you here and please

811
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,240
share any wins from your week.
Hey, thanks a lot.

812
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,640
It's great to be here.
It's been increasingly difficult

813
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,200
to listen in at work even.
So glad I have a vacation day

814
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,800
today.
We're doing a staycation.

815
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,560
We have a new grandbaby.
So that's my win of the week.

816
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,280
If you refresh your screen,
you'll be able to see my new

817
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,520
profile pic.
So a little Christopher Bryan

818
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,600
was born on Wednesday and we are
so delighted to have him.

819
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,920
So and yes, they named him after
their his Papa so I'm so.

820
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:33,600
Honored to have a new grandbaby
with my name so.

821
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,000
That's pretty awesome.
That's it.

822
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,960
Congratulations Chris.
That is very cool.

823
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,240
And the little cherry on top,
getting the the grandchild named

824
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:46,080
after you.
Enjoy and congratulations to

825
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,320
your whole family.
OK, now we're going to go to our

826
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,920
moderators and there's still
time.

827
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,320
If you're listening live and
want to come up and share, there

828
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,720
is still time to do that.
I will be turning off hand

829
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:01,320
raising momentarily.
I will go last with my sharing

830
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,040
my wins.
Dr. let's go to you first.

831
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,880
Please share some wins with us.
In this past couple weeks I've

832
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,560
had two client.
One client has gone down from 2

833
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,800
episodes a month down to 1
episode a month because she's

834
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,200
just changing her direction.
And of course that lowers my

835
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,080
income from her.
And I've had another client who

836
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,840
has sundown her podcast.
And I went into this.

837
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,440
I wasn't depressed.
I wasn't, Oh no, I wasn't any of

838
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,680
that.
I was like jumping for joy

839
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:42,560
because it leaves me time to dig
into all of these courses that I

840
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,240
kind of have shiny penny
syndrome.

841
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:46,280
I know that comes as a shock to
a lot of you.

842
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,960
And so I can dig into some of
these courses.

843
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,880
I've done that.
I'm digging into the newsletter

844
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,360
course and I'm doing my opt in
for my newsletter and that's

845
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,400
going really well.
I'm also reconfiguring my entire

846
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,200
website.
So that's in the move and I'm

847
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,120
really happy with that.
That's my win.

848
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,120
Congratulations and I'm going to
go to Jonathan.

849
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,280
It looks like Jonathan wants to
chime in.

850
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,960
Go ahead, Jonathan.
With all this extra time, do you

851
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,640
have a podcast?
You could possibly.

852
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,480
Put out possibly, Yeah.
OK, just checking why I was

853
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,800
jumping for joy too.
Because I was, I was in Spain in

854
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,280
November and I thought it was
coming out in January.

855
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,600
But you.
Know thank you Jonathan

856
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,760
appreciate it especially because
you're actually because I know

857
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,240
you came a little bit late
you're actually piling on she

858
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,760
got a little medicine a little
while ago so good.

859
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,560
Good to have more people piling
it on.

860
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:50,440
Dr. was podcast will come out if
if we can help it.

861
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,440
It's coming out.
It is.

862
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Yeah.
All right.

863
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,320
Ashley coming to you, Share some
wins with us.

864
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,280
Hey y'all, happy Friday.
So my win for this week is that

865
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,440
my significant other is off from
work for the weekend and it's

866
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,040
super duper rare that we're off
at the same time and especially

867
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,640
on a weekend.
So my win is that I get to spend

868
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,960
some time with him at home and
work on creative projects.

869
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,520
I've got some songs that I want
to finish writing and practice,

870
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,360
some instruments I don't
normally practice, and that's my

871
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,200
win for the.
Congratulations and enjoy your

872
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,960
time with your significant
other.

873
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,160
That's awesome.
Have a great weekend and Amanda

874
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,880
coming to you.
Please share some wins.

875
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,440
So Facebook this week reminded
me that one year ago today or

876
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,080
this week, I posted that Chris
and I were so excited that we

877
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,360
had a total of 25,000 downloads.
That was just a year ago and I

878
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,400
sent it to Chris.
I said, Chris, I can't believe

879
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,960
we've increased so much because
at this year we're almost at

880
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,520
100,000 more than that.
Yeah.

881
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,960
So it took so long to get like
the 25 K mark, but then in a

882
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:03,840
year's time to be able to get
that many more audio downloads.

883
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,160
I just thought it was so
remarkable that one day you

884
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,320
celebrate like this milestone
and the next you're celebrating

885
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,720
like a completely other one that
you would have never been able

886
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:15,640
to like throw a dart at, in my
opinion.

887
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,680
I wouldn't have thought that.
So just fun to kind of see how

888
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,560
far we've come and how much fun
it's been on this journey.

889
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,680
So that's my win.
Yeah.

890
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,320
Congratulations and thank you
for sharing it because I think

891
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,240
it provides some hope for some
people, right?

892
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:33,960
That we're grinding it out all
the time and like when are we

893
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,440
going to hit these milestones
that we're looking to hit?

894
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,160
It's the age-old concept that we
talk about often.

895
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,800
Consistency, consistency,
consistency.

896
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,000
And eventually it does pay off
because we get more experience,

897
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,200
we learn more, we improve more,
we grow more, and our audience

898
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,000
grows with us.
And before you know it, yeah,

899
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,880
you make that big jump from
hitting that 25 K to another.

900
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,840
What did you say?
How many more have you had since

901
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,640
then?
Almost 100,000.

902
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Yeah, that pretty awesome,
pretty awesome.

903
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,000
Congratulations, Sid.
Share some wins with us, please.

904
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:16,240
OK, so I am recorded through
August which just feels really

905
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,680
good to have all the episodes
recorded.

906
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,200
The July episodes have been
uploaded and today they will be

907
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,400
marketed, meaning the e-mail
will be created, blog will be

908
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,560
created, all that kind of stuff
and scheduled.

909
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,800
Because we are in the three-week
countdown to our European

910
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,880
vacation, I'm trying to make
sure I get all that stuff ready

911
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,480
to go.
So because I'm not taking my

912
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,960
laptop and and have it all set
up so that it goes out

913
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,920
automatically and it's a no work
vacation for both of us.

914
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,920
Amazing, yes, When I went to
Europe, I did not bring my

915
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,880
laptop either.
It is freeing and it's only

916
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,640
weird for like the first day or
two and then I think you'll get

917
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,040
used to it.
Where are you going, Sid?

918
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,400
We're in Europe.
We're going to start 30th

919
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,640
anniversary, so which is not
technically until November, but

920
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,480
we're celebrating in the summer
because we want to go on a

921
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,320
cruise.
We're taking a cruise of the

922
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,680
Mediterranean Sea starting in
Barcelona, going to Rome, going

923
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,400
to Capri to Nice, Montereyvo.
I think it's how you say it.

924
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,120
I don't know eight different
cities that we're going to.

925
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,600
So super excited about that trip
and just the two of us getting

926
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,240
to hang out like empty nesters
and like we were before the kids

927
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,880
came along.
So people keep asking us, are

928
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,600
the kids going?
I'm like, no, the kids aren't

929
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,520
going.
You kidding me?

930
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,480
They got things to do.
So somebody's got to take care

931
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,000
of the dogs, so.
Yeah.

932
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,080
Well, countdown is on.
Happy early anniversary.

933
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,480
That sounds really exciting,
Sid.

934
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Yeah, Congratulations.
There was one other thing I

935
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,720
wanted to say and I forgot.
Darn it.

936
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,800
Oh well.
While you're thinking about it,

937
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,320
can I do something real quick?
Mark?

938
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,040
Yes, please.
A couple minutes, can I?

939
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,360
So I just want to take a second.
And she's being very humble

940
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,440
about all this.
But I just want to acknowledge

941
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,080
Amanda because she has a lot
more wins than what she's

942
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,920
sharing.
And if you're not following

943
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:10,720
Amanda on social media, you need
to, because what Amanda is

944
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,240
doing?
To.

945
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,240
Support her community to
revitalize her community, to

946
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:21,440
bring joy to her community, from
farmers markets to egg drop

947
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,520
balloons to a street party.
It's very inspiring and very

948
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,400
impressive how Amanda is pouring
into pouring herself and her

949
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,480
love into her little community.
So Amanda, congratulations to

950
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,040
you because you don't really
share much of that here, but

951
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,880
those are amazing wins.
And I love watching the journey

952
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,120
of what you're doing for your
little town in Southwest

953
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,040
Michigan or Southeast Michigan.
You are so sweet, son.

954
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,320
Makes me tear up.
I love doing it so much and my

955
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,280
community is so deserving.
And you know, this is really

956
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,840
behind it.
This is my heart.

957
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,240
Like, we cannot control so much
of what we're having to deal

958
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:02,800
with in this world, but one
thing we can do is write and

959
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,520
joy.
Find the joy.

960
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,040
And if you can't find it, you
better be writing it in and

961
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,480
giving it to people.
And so I feel like if we can

962
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:15,120
just give joy and happiness and
opportunity to those around us,

963
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,800
the rest of the world will fall
in place.

964
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:22,680
So I believe in that mission so
much and I see it unfolding in

965
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,880
front of me and the butterfly
effect that certain things have

966
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,960
on other things and it's just so
special.

967
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,400
So I would encourage everyone to
to just take, I know not

968
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,200
everyone has the time that
everyone has that heart and that

969
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,120
is OK.
But it is so special to see what

970
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,320
1 little drop of doing something
can do for a community and

971
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,440
beyond.
So thank you, Sid, that is very

972
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,240
special.
Yeah.

973
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,200
Thank you, Sid, for bringing
that up.

974
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:53,720
And I certainly echo that point,
Amanda.

975
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:57,200
And I love what you just said.
And and the way I interpreted

976
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:03,040
what you said is, is providing
joy in our own worlds will

977
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,120
eventually spread to everyone
else's worlds, right?

978
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,280
We got to, let's focus on the
world's that we can control and

979
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,480
stop worrying so much about the
stuff we can't.

980
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:19,520
And I think that then leads to a
lot more joy and happiness for

981
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,160
us as individuals and for the
communities around us.

982
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,800
And I also am just inspired
because we talk so much about

983
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,800
these online community building
and this, you know, digital

984
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,640
communities.
And there to me is nothing more

985
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,520
powerful, nothing more
meaningful than the in person

986
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,800
stuff.
It really adds the layer that's

987
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,080
I think kind of missing from
digital communities.

988
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,080
And not to say that there's
anything wrong with that because

989
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,520
we've built quite a special
digital community here and think

990
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,240
about those times that we all
get to meet each other in person

991
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,880
and how special those moments
are.

992
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,960
Thank you, Amanda, and say it
again.

993
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,040
Thank you for bringing that up.
And let's go to Jonathan and

994
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,960
then I'll wrap things up.
Go ahead, Jonathan.

995
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,160
Good morning.
Good morning.

996
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,320
And Amanda, just, you know, all
those little things that you're

997
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,680
doing change.
The world for other people.

998
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,360
And you know, just
congratulations on that.

999
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,000
It's a big, it's a big deal.
And for my wins to this week,

1000
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,800
I'm going to go with the fact
that I didn't think at the

1001
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,840
beginning of the week that I was
going to make my July 7th launch

1002
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,000
date for my podcast.
And I'm thinking I'm actually

1003
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,440
going to make my July 7th launch
date, so I'm very happy about

1004
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,800
that.
I got a bunch of episodes

1005
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,880
recorded and a few of them
edited, so I've got stuff I can

1006
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,680
drop in and I've got some
backups.

1007
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,160
So I might actually make the
July 7th launch date.

1008
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,800
And I want to be.
ADR. Yeah, exactly.

1009
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,360
Otherwise, you're going to get
the Dr. nickname Jonathan.

1010
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,680
I know, and that's a problem.
We'll call.

1011
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,960
We'll start calling you JH.
Yep, Yeah.

1012
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,880
Congratulations, Jonathan.
That's awesome.

1013
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,680
And if there's anything I can do
to help you get that, get to

1014
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,760
that date, let me know.
I'm happy to try to help however

1015
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,800
I can.
You've been such a great help

1016
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,400
with Empowered Podcasting
Conference, doing that out of

1017
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,320
the kindness of your heart and
out of the your belief in what

1018
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,160
we're doing.
So thank you and I'm happy to

1019
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,240
return the favor however I can.
And well, I'll start there then

1020
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,040
with the win this week.
Today we're not actually today,

1021
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,200
but this weekend is the first
anniversary.

1022
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,360
It's been one year since the
Empowered Podcasting Conference.

1023
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,320
So that's certainly something to
acknowledge and celebrate for

1024
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,680
me.
And Speaking of anniversaries at

1025
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:42,880
this weekend, the 29th is my 7th
wedding anniversary to my lovely

1026
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,840
wife Amy.
And since I happen to know this,

1027
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,640
I happen to know, although she's
not here, it's the 29th coming

1028
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,200
up here.
And that means it's Paula's

1029
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,600
birthday.
So happy birthday to Paula, and

1030
00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:01,480
then let's see another win.
I graduated improv 1O2 this past

1031
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:07,040
week and I actually tonight have
my showcase with my fellow

1032
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,360
students, my troop, whatever you
want to call it.

1033
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:14,640
We do another showcase tonight
and then Monday, yeah, Monday I

1034
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,840
start one O 3.
So I'm keeping it going with the

1035
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,240
improv stuff and really enjoying
it.

1036
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,640
By the way.
Lastly, my the other win I'll

1037
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,680
share from this past week is I
landed another new podcast

1038
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:34,320
consulting slash coaching
client, someone I knew not well,

1039
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,000
but somebody I knew from
college.

1040
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,520
And I noticed earlier this week
she was liking some of my

1041
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,960
content on TikTok.
I think actually I was noticing

1042
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,120
it last week.
So early this week, I reached

1043
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,840
out to her just to thank her
like, hey, thanks for noticing

1044
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,400
my stuff.
Thanks for acknowledging my

1045
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,520
stuff.
I appreciate it.

1046
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,360
And that was all I that was my
only intention really of

1047
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,480
reaching out.
And the next thing I knew, we

1048
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,520
had a call earlier this week and
she hired me to help her start a

1049
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:06,320
podcast.
And her story very briefly is

1050
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:14,080
that she is a 50 year old mom
and wife, and she is also a

1051
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,880
caretaker.
Her husband has a cancerous

1052
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,400
brain tumor that he's been
fighting for several years now.

1053
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:28,800
He's not the same man that he
was when she married him due to

1054
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,320
the brain tumor and some of the
damage it's caused.

1055
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,640
And on top of that, she's
raising 2 teenage boys with

1056
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,040
mental health challenges.
And as she said to me, and I

1057
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,240
know she would say publicly
because she told me she plans on

1058
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,960
it, it's kind of like she's
raising three teenagers now.

1059
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:51,080
And she is often called a
superhero, a superwoman, and was

1060
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,840
telling me she does not feel
like that, although she's doing

1061
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,160
a hell of a job, you know,
behind the scenes.

1062
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,200
She doesn't feel like a
superwoman.

1063
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,960
And she wants to create a space
for people in similar similar

1064
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,760
position as her.
Create community.

1065
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,720
Create a space where those
people feel heard, feel seen and

1066
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,160
have some answers to some of
their challenges.

1067
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,640
As a caretaker.
So I'm really looking forward to

1068
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,800
roducing something a show like
that with so much meaning behind

1069
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,880
it and certainly a win to
celebrate this week.

1070
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,400
OK, so gang, we are back
Tuesday, 7:00 AM Eastern.

1071
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,800
And we do that do this every
Tuesday through Friday over the

1072
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,600
summertime.
We'll be back to our Monday

1073
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,720
through Friday schedule come the
fall.

1074
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,760
So join us on Tuesday at 7:00 AM
to talk all things podcasting

1075
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,320
and content creating.
We'd love to have you there.

1076
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,360
And please share this with a
fellow podcaster if you already

1077
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,800
know to join us in the mornings
live on Clubhouse, live on

1078
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,200
YouTube.
We would love to have more

1079
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,240
people join this awesome
community.

1080
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,320
So until Tuesday, make it a
great weekend.

1081
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,640
Everybody take care.