306 - Unpacking Questions From The Mailbag & Sharing Wins

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Good morning podcasters.
It's Friday, May 16th, 2025.

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And today we've got some
questions from the mailbag.

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And of course, we've also got
some wins today.

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And if you're listening via
podcast, please share this

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episode with fellow podcaster.
And now give us about 30 seconds

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and we will get these things
rolling.

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I'm Dr. Fay.
I am hosting.

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This is the last day that Mark
is going to be away.

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He's on a plane on his way back
and we'll be so happy to see

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him.
And on stage with me right now

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is Ashley, Alex and Amanda.
The 3A's Ashley, Alex and Amanda

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are all on stage with me.
Thank you.

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And we have a little icebreaker
question for everyone.

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So take it away, Ashley.
I believe this was found on

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Reddit.
The host of the podcast I

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produce has two podcasts.
One is Independent 1 is a huge

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network.
I work with them on the

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Independent 1.
The guests reached out asking

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for a sit down interview so we
coordinated for the independent

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podcast.
But then in person she kept

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mentioning things from the
network podcast and saying how

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much she loves the host's work
and interviewing skills.

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She clearly isn't aware of the
independent one, although the

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host clarified it will not be
the network 1 and she went

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through with the recording as it
is too late by then.

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The host will try to sell the
network and I don't know if it

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will work.
What do you think is a good way

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to amend this confusion right
now with the guest and make sure

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she doesn't get too upset or
disappointed?

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So the question is, there's a
lot here, but what we're really

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asking is what would you do if
you were this podcast manager?

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Or alternatively, have you ever
had a guest get confused about

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like maybe you've got 2
podcasts?

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Did they ever get confused about
which podcasts they're appearing

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on?
And how did you clear up this

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confusion without burning any
bridges?

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Oh God, I.
I am.

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I don't even.
Yeah.

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I'm seldomly lost for words
here, friends, we know this, but

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I'm going.
To answer it, because I think I

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know where it's going because
I've been on multiple podcasts

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and I have this one podcast that
I go on like I guessed.

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And it's, it's kind of like a
movie review podcast.

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And I have a tendency to like
want to take it over.

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And it's like this running joke.
It's not like it's, it's not

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like it's done maliciously
because you, if you, like most

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of us have have been the lead.
So you're used to like being the

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lead and you're like introing
stuff.

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But you know, you can do it one
of two ways.

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You can get mad about it or you
can, if it's during the show,

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you can kind of, you know, have
fun with it because that's what

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we end up doing.
But if it's beforehand, you

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know, I, I don't know, just have
a coming to Jesus meeting with

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them, I guess.
I don't know if that's the

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question, but I'm answering it
and that's mine.

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I'm sticking to it.
OK.

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Matthew, I see that you just
joined us.

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Go ahead.
Good morning, everybody.

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I actually saw it when it was.
Oh, good.

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Yeah.
So I'd I'd read it and it

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through some of the thinking
patterns.

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From what I understand, they
were on the episode.

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They had recorded the content
with them, but some of the

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responses that they made during
the recording was that what was

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for the network podcast as
opposed to the Independent 1.

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So I think the person is trying
to find out the best way to say,

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hey, clearly you've given us the
content for the wrong podcast

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here was actually for this show
and I'm pitching the network

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show, the big one to see if
they'll air the episode.

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Seems unlikely.
So how do I, you know, telling

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this person basically that
they've, you know, figured they

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were going on, for case an
example, the Joe Rogan show

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where they were actually on the
about Joe Rogan show, which has,

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you know, audience, that kind of
thing.

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And realistically for me, I
looked at it and I thought

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there's not it.
It's not a huge concern.

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I don't think people are as as
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this kind of thing.
If they're a guest on a podcast,

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they clearly came onto the
podcast to be able to share the

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stuff that they're talking
about.

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And unless this person has been
paid or reimbursed or expects

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some sort of kickback for their
time, I'm not sure the pod, the

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person who is running this
podcast needs to worry too much.

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I think just being upfront and
transparent with the guest to

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say this was the situation and
then maybe a lead into being on

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the network show at the same
time, I don't know.

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I think the biggest issue might
be whether the content was

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relevant or not, or whether the
connection with the guest and

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the host was adequate.
If they were answering

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questions, presuming they're on
a different podcast entirely and

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a bit more context there would
help to like if the network show

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is way too different compared to
the independent show and whether

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there were any similarities at
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It's a it's a little bit hard to
say without more info there.

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It's just I think it's more of
an event and a concern and a

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support seeking post than
something that would necessarily

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be an actual issue.
It's not something I've ever

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encountered before.
Usually resolved, I think by

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being very upfront and clear
with the the communication.

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Right, right.
Yeah, I guess just a little

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clarification for me, if you
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Was this actually recorded then?
So this was actually a recorded

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episode.
I believe so.

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I don't know, I guess if I was
that host and doing the

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interviewing, shame on me for
not helping direct the content a

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little bit bigger.
So I feel like it shouldn't have

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gotten so off the rails or so
flip-flopped because there's

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times that Chris and I like,
we'll forget where we're at in

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the show because we're laughing
or having a good time.

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And we have to like do a self
correction and get us back on

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the right page of like, if he
accidentally tried to go next

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and it was supposed to be my my
time to go.

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And so there's just corrections
that I think you have to do

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while you're doing a podcast
with somebody else sometimes.

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And I say corrections as just
like, it's not like we're

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correcting or scolding somebody,
but you, it's a skill to be able

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to clarify or put the person
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the right path.
So I guess I just don't

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understand how it might have
been a finished product and have

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that much discrepancy in there
or flip flopping.

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Agreed.
Ashley, what would you do?

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I mean, you asked the question,
so have you thought about this?

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What would you do?
I have the same thing, just open

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clear communication.
And the way I took this is I

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don't think it says in the ice
breaker question that the

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interview was already recorded.
That's not how I perceived it

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anyway.
To me, it sounded like they were

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preparing for this interview and
the person, the guest thought

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that they were going to be on
the big major podcast that's

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with the network, but in fact,
they were actually going to be

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on a more independent version.
So if I were the manager of this

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podcast, I would make sure they
absolutely know what show they

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were going to be on from the get
go to avoid that kind of

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confusion.
Yeah, I think exactly what

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someone says to have a come to
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That's the only thing that I can
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I can't even imagine being in
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OK, so we have some more
questions from the mailbag, and

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I'm not sure if this one came
from Reddit, which by the way,

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has been supplying a lot of our
questions lately on other

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mailbag days.
So with so many podcasts out

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there, standing out is tough.
She's in a niche that is pretty

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saturated.
So what can someone do if they

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are in a saturated niche but it
is their specialty?

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What can someone do to stand
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Does anyone have any
suggestions?

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Oh good, Amanda.
I like how you say, oh good.

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I think it kind of taps into
yesterday, yesterday's

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conversation a little bit and
what we hinted at a lot of our

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episodes is that personal
branding, that unique you, the

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thing that makes you stand out
amongst other people.

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So Chris and I are in a very
saturated music lane of

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podcasting and if you look on
YouTube, it is just saturated.

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So to try and get any kind of
ranking is terribly hard.

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But I think one thing that we
have found is just our

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consistency of showing up.
So we authentically show up as

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ourselves and then we
consistently show up as

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ourselves, but often.
And so I think for me that would

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be my biggest suggestion to them
is just keep showing up, but

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also showing up as yourself.
Excellent.

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Anyone else?
Alex, do you have any

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suggestions for them?
Amanda kind of hit the nail on

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the head.
Don't worry about everybody

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else.
I think that's the main thing.

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Yes, you can look at what other
people are doing and maybe not

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copy, but if you want to
incorporate your brand of what

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you're doing.
I mean, I'm in a pretty

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saturated market as well.
And it's really, it's a little

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different than what everybody
else does is because we've

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there's basically a clock when
the show drops in a lot of cases

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that on TV people want to get a
review and there's a lot of

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people that do screeners.
So if it drops at 9 O clock at

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night, people drop their episode
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Again, people listen to
podcasters because of the

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content, but also because of the
people.

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I mean, anybody can talk about
any topic, but they're talking.

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They're listening to you because
of you and whatever makes you

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your podcast unique, If it
resonates with people, it'll

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start getting traction.
I think that's the main thing is

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you have to kind of not have
blinders on, but sometimes you

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have to have blinders on and
just keep in, like Gemena said,

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just keep doing consistent work
and it'll end up resonating with

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people if it's good content.
I know Matt wanted to say

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something, please.
I'll take a more logistical

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angle because finding your
unique genius is super important

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when there's a lot of other
people trying to do the same

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thing.
The great thing about having a

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saturated niche is that there
are tons of other podcasts and

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podcasters to connect with.
So that means lots of guesting

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opportunities, lots of
collaborative opportunities.

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And that could be a way for you
to get your voice out a little

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bit and get a bit of practice in
too.

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You know, you can learn, make
connections with people who can

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help you improve your show a
little bit, improve what you

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deliver to an audience.
And combining that with your

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unique genius in the space can
be a really great way to to help

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improve your show.
Now the, the other logistical

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point I wanted to bring up as
well is that there's probably a

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formula you could make as an
inverse correlation to

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saturation of space versus time,
time required to grow to

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acceptable point.
So making sure that those

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expectations are like maybe 6-12
months down the track and

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setting yourself a goal for that
time.

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And in the in between coming up
with that plan for collaborating

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with other people in your niche,
that that's probably a really

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good way to go about it.
You know, it's funny you say

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that and what is from podcasts.
We've actually hooked up with

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some of the other podcasters
that do that and we've done year

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end reviews, previews, things
like that to kind of boost each

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other's podcast.
And we've kind of stole some

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stuff from them.
They stole some stuff from us.

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Not a bad way.
I mean, just in a collaborative

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way.
And like you said, it really

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kind of helps people to grow
your audience as well as it

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shows that we're not trying to
compete against each other even

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we are, but we're not.
So there is a lot of benefit to

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that.
So Ashley, are you back or not?

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OK, I wasn't short now because I
know DRS doing her eggs.

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OK, here we go.
The Golden Globes will honor

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podcast for the first time, with
the Best Podcast of the Year

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category debuting the 83rd
Golden Globe Awards on January

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11th, 2026.
Audio and video shows will be

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eligible, with the top 25
podcasts qualifying and six

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ultimately nominated.
What impact do you think a

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Golden Globe Podcast Award will
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and overall podcast quality?
I think this is such a joke

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because we all know who are
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nominations.
I mean, we do this every

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Wednesday.
We see what the lists are.

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I think it's a very unrealistic
opportunity for the true, true

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like independent podcasters to
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So for me, I don't know, I have
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I think they're so like over

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glamorized and so silly.
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there's just no way that we will
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But I would love for the world
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I'm with you.
Go ahead, Matthew.

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I feel the exact same and
usually when I do, I try to to

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query myself a little bit and
try to find where the advantage

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might be or where the good point
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this.
Because obviously someone with

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10 episodes in independent
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entertainment industry isn't
hasn't got a sight on getting

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into the Golden Globes on those
charts unless something

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miraculous happens.
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that we need to set for these is
part of what's making us

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frustrated with this kind of
announcement, right?

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The the idea is that the Golden
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the places for big, major
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and awarded for the things that
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I don't think there's, you know,
small short films coming out of,

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you know, rural Canada that kind
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Globes.
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specific pool of people and pool
of producers or you, whoever

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might be involved in that circle
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likely to get an opportunity
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And you're looking at it more
realistically.

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I mean it emotionally, it is
frustrating to have another

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award ceremony for another group
of people who are, you know,

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innately successful because they
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because they have the means and
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the ceiling.
It takes us years to get to as

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independent podcasters.
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for them like they put it on a
global stage because the

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Internet entertainment market
is, you know, it's designed to

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pull us in as consumers because
they rely on our money to be

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able to support these things, to
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It's the American, I was about
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know my audience here, American
Idol effect where we're all

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singing judges when we're
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watching these singers do their
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We're not really, but we are
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industry.
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things that we like earning the
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Podcasting just is different in
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As long as we know that it's the
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getting into this award ceremony
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When Idris Elba and his wife
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ago and they get an award for it
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actor and all that kind of
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expectations more as frustrated
as we might be with not having a

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look at it, getting an award
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Alex, I think you've chucked
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Do you want to jump in?
First off, I think it's pretty

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amazing the fact that they're
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table.
You can look at it both ways.

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It's just a reason to give a
bunch of other celebrities a

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bunch of awards that they don't
deserve or deserve, whatever,

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that's fine.
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Dave said at least it's bringing
podcasting into the conversation

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and that's what it's about.
I mean, we had this conversation

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five years ago.
People would laugh at the fact

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that it's there for people like
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Yeah.
It's going to be frustrating for

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people in the industry like your
and all the other Mike.

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I can't think of it.
Yeti.

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They're going to make a fortune
because more people want to get

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in the podcast thing.
And is that a bad thing?

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No, I just think that we all
criticize the Mel's and the DRS

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boyfriend a lot, but we're all
trying to in some way take some

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stuff from what they do and try
to add it to our own because it

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does work.
Now, why does it work?

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Because they got a lot of money
and they have a lot of

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influence.
And if people want to listen to

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it and they've hundreds of
thousands of downloads, does

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that make it the best podcast?
Probably not.

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But at the same time, you know,
we're getting a seat at the

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table for what we love to do.
And I think there's a lot to be

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said for that.
I guarantee you to Amanda's

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point, you know, maybe not the
Haktui girl, but the other girl

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who got a divorce after she, she
does those really monotone

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interviews with celebrities, you
know, she kind of like jumped up

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out of the scene and became a
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I think it's a good podcast.
I think that's what's the name

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of the it's called.
I forget there's going to be

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somebody that's going to crack
it because out of all the

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different types of genres, this
is the easiest one to crack into

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if you get if you have the right
timing and everything else.

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I believe so.
You know, you just have to it's

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kind of like a YouTube star.
I mean, on the extreme, Mr.

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Beast, everybody loves to point
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He came from nothing and then
all of a sudden he became what

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he became.
And I know there's probably more

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to it than that.
And now he's a multi

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bazillionaire.
But it's easier to break into

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this than it probably is into an
independent film or into the

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film industry.
So, Amanda, what do you have to

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add?
Well, I want to be clear.

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Like it doesn't frustrate me
that this is the way that these

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awards work because I just think
they're silly anyway.

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I far more am concerned about
like the awards that Dominic

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goes and, you know, throws his
hat into the table for because

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those are, I feel like those are
judged based on probably like

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much better merit than what this
is going to be.

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And to even have a seat at the
table.

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I can't even imagine the budget
for marketing and all the things

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that put you into the pool of
figures and all the good stuff

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that it would take to even
become a nominee for that.

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But also I do.
I did just have a thought.

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So Ashley, when you read that,
the criteria, and maybe I'm

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using the wrong word there, but
I think the criteria, you said

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audio and video, is that right?
Yeah, I think it does say audio

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and video.
So I think we have a lot of

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conversation of what is a
podcast and I think the fact

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that they would be including
video in there.

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It definitely is kind of putting
what is a podcast into the

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direction that yes, of course it
will always, I think remain

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audio, but that that lane of
video definitely is of

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importance to keep your, you
know, your pulse on.

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If you're not doing that route
yet, I think you better.

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I will say this though, I look
at your show, I look at a lot of

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different shows that are out
there.

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I mean, you guys use stream
yard, right?

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I think you can still use stream
yard when you do your podcasts.

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There's a lot of top podcasters
if you want to call them.

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I watch a lot of sports.
If you want to call podcasts and

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these are people that are XDSPM
people, they're using the same

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exact thing that you are.
They're getting the reach that

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you're, you know, they're
getting these huge numbers or

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not so huge numbers and they're
using the same products that you

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are.
So maybe I'm being a little, you

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know, rose covered glasses, but
I'm with you in the sense of,

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you know, the webbies and the
and the communicator awards and

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all these other podcast awards
are, you know, for podcasters by

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podcasters a little bit more.
But I just think it's kind of

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cool.
I mean, yes, I know Dr. is dying

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to see Joe Rogan get up there
and thank Dr. For all her.

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Support I know that Mel Robbins,
if she does go to one of those

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things, if she doesn't have, you
know, something better to do.

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We'll thank all of the people,
especially Matthew and

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especially Amanda for your
support.

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But the fact is we kid.
But I see where you're going.

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I'm with you 1000%, Amanda.
But I like I said, I think it's

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really cool that they're they're
doing it.

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It's never going to be what we
want, but at least it's a start,

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if that makes sense.
And I do think you have a point

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there that the tools out there
are being widespreadly used by

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very, very top producing podcast
and very entry level like that's

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amazing that that same tool is
being utilized.

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I think we're the majority of us
in this room have the

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disadvantages.
We just don't have this

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marketing team behind us doing
all the hard work.

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Like Alex, I know like editing
is your nemesis this, you know

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what I mean?
Where if you, we, if none of us

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in this room had to worry about
editing, all we had to do is

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show up for fun, do put on our
show, literally put it on and

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then tap out and knew that we
had this amazing team behind us

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doing all the things that all of
us should be doing.

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We just don't have the extra
time or the budget.

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I think that's the difference
there.

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And so, Amanda, outside of great
luck, we'll just never be

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competitive.
The greatest day was yesterday

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for me.
I got the guests and when it was

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over, you know what I did he.
Just hung up and did.

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Nothing.
Amen.

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It was a great just day of
podcasting I'm.

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Talking about Alex, like think
that if we were that big and we

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had that big of a budget that we
could just go, OK, we're done,

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have a good day and know that
magic happened behind the

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scenes.
That would be well.

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And to be fair, that's kind of
what happens with me because

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Chris does all the work.
Dave, Dave, I know Dr. and

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Ashley are part of this too, and
Mark is too.

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You really are a say a say gist
or something.

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Anything's fun.
God bless you, We.

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Oh, I like editing.
Exactly, we need people like

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you, Dr. because if we didn't,
nothing would ever happen in

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this.
Absolutely.

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God love you.
We need the editors for sure.

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Oh, and by the way, Joe Rogan
did say he just messaged me.

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He did say he can't wait to to
say something about Dr. and her

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support.
Yes, the little woman behind the

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great man.
I know, I know.

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So I'm going to change gears
here a little bit and we're

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going to talk about imposter
syndrome.

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There's someone on Facebook who
has a severe case of imposter

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syndrome.
And I'm going to go around the

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room and ask what advice would
you give to this person on how

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to get through their imposter
syndrome?

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But first I want, I want to
define imposter syndrome for

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some of the people who are
listening on the replay as far

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as I know.
And please jump in if you have

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another explanation.
So take someone, for instance,

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who has studied up the hilt of
everything.

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They've taken all the classes,
all the workshops, all the

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masterminds, they've been in all
the courses.

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And now when it comes time to
actually implement, because

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maybe they have a client or
maybe they've been contracted

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for something, they are choking
up.

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They feel like they're not
really worthy of getting that

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client or that contract.
And that to me is imposter

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syndrome.
Does someone else have?

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Yeah, go ahead out.
I'll go with that.

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I just think that people have to
learn how to feel comfortable

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with being uncomfortable.
And I learned that from here.

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But I've kind of, you know, used
that in a lot of part of my life

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and you're never going to feel
good enough and you're never

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going to feel like you're there.
And but at the same time, that's

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why you have to kind of check
yourself and be like, OK, we did

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this.
We did that.

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Like my what is from podcasts?
It's the top three podcasts for

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the show.
We have 100,000 downloads.

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We've got all these other
wonderful things.

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I'm not saying in my eyes, I'm
actually hope trying to leave

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the show.
I don't think it's good enough.

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It should be better and I look
at some other shows that are a

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lot better and I know you can
compare yourself, but at the

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same time, I think imposter
syndrome in some ways is a good

449
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,480
thing because it keeps you
hungry.

450
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,680
But at the same time, unless I'm
defining it differently than you

451
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840
are, but I think it can be a
good thing.

452
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,680
But it's at the end of the day,
you got to take those chances.

453
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,960
You got to jump in and
everything happens.

454
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,000
It doesn't happen.
You don't go from 1:00 to 10:00.

455
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720
You kind of make little jumps
along the way and then all of a

456
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,280
sudden you're at a different
place.

457
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,640
I think that happened with
Amanda and Chris with your

458
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840
YouTube stuff.
You started, you had a ball,

459
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,800
Chris started doing a ton of
content and all of a sudden,

460
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,680
boom, you're where you are and
you're killing it.

461
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,520
So I mean, that's what I feel.
Agreed.

462
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,120
I feel that.
Thank you, Alex.

463
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,880
I'm going to go around the horn
here.

464
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,960
Ashley, what would you tell this
person of how to step out of

465
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,520
their imposter syndrome?
I would say to realize that

466
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,360
imposter syndrome is, is a term
that was made-up I think in the

467
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:08,680
70s and I, I think it's a lot
like stage fright.

468
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,360
It's just part of the creative
journey.

469
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,320
Everyone goes through periods
where they're unsure of

470
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,320
themselves and it just takes
time to go through the reps of

471
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,880
doing the thing and enjoying the
process.

472
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,920
And I don't think imposter
syndrome, stage fright ever

473
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,480
really goes away.
I've been playing music

474
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,160
professionally for over 20 years
and I still, I'd be lying if I

475
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,360
said I don't have a tiny, tiny,
tiny bit of of stage fright that

476
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,080
happens right before they turn
on the mics and we're on stage.

477
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,600
So I would just say just realize
that it's a natural part of the

478
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,960
creative process and it doesn't
really ever go away.

479
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,800
But at the same time, realize
that whatever you have to say

480
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,840
is, is valuable, and that you
should find the bravery within

481
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,600
yourself to say it anyway and do
it scared.

482
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,440
Do it scared.
That's right, I need AT shirt

483
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,520
that says do it scared Matthew,
I see your hand up.

484
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,960
Sorry, I just had to stop
laughing for a second there.

485
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,840
You said you want to show up
with that on.

486
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,040
It could be very fun to what
Ashley said.

487
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,000
There's a really interesting
thing that I found when I talked

488
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,320
about it with a few other people
that they agree that it's kind

489
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,120
of the same thing.
Some people are unique in this

490
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:24,560
way.
Some people usually have this,

491
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,600
but from my teaching background
and from people that I know who

492
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,680
get up to do presentations and
speak in, you know, auditoriums

493
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,920
or in front of large groups of
people and that kind of thing,

494
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,560
there's this feeling that you
get that or that, you know, I

495
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,000
get speaking from my experience
that you get just before doing

496
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,440
whatever it is you're doing in
front of this group of people,

497
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,960
you've done days and days and
days of preparation and you're

498
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,720
ready.
You know what you got to do.

499
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,200
And then 15 minutes before you
got to go on, you get that

500
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080
feeling of butterflies and you
start thinking to yourself, oh

501
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,280
man, what if I don't remember
that thing?

502
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400
What if that thing doesn't work?
What if the Lesson plan I would

503
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360
put together doesn't pan out?
What if the technology doesn't

504
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520
work?
What if all the things have

505
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,640
these things happen?
Invariably it starts, you do the

506
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,160
thing, and then an hour later
you feel amazing about it.

507
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,120
You feel great that you just
accomplished this thing.

508
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,240
Then it comes around to do the
same thing tomorrow again.

509
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,920
And then 15 minutes before you
get the butterflies, you start

510
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,960
questioning yourself.
You start wondering whether it's

511
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,520
worth doing just running out of
the room and trying to escape to

512
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,520
Vanuatu or if you want to go.
It's a consistent feeling, and

513
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040
coming to terms with that
feeling takes a lot of practice.

514
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,800
And as Kate said, doing the
reps, I think it's very easy in

515
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,600
this space to have the word
impostor syndrome, like Ashley,

516
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320
like you said, made in the
1970s.

517
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,760
It's a word that's persisted
across time, and generations

518
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,440
will grab it as a way to justify
the feelings they have and try

519
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,920
to address that particular
thing.

520
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,800
But in reality, there's always
the same stuff that we'll be

521
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,000
suggesting and recommending to
move forward for.

522
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,680
From my example there, it's
knowing the butterflies are

523
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,960
coming, but knowing that feeling
on the other side of them and

524
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,360
being able to move forward with
it.

525
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,640
For podcasting, it's realizing
that perfect isn't ever

526
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,560
realistic, that you've put out
there what you get and you learn

527
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,280
by failing and continue to
improve, you know, pushing that

528
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,520
ceiling higher and higher for
the quality that you want from

529
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,640
the show and realizing when it
has to stop as well.

530
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,000
Like Alex said, sometimes it's
not imposter syndrome, it's just

531
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,920
a feeling that something isn't
quite right.

532
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,600
And that's true.
A little bit different, but

533
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,240
actually you chucked your hand
up there.

534
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Yeah, definitely.
Perfectionism is is not, it's

535
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,800
not realistic.
I just wanted to say I the link

536
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,320
I pinned up there for y'all.
We recently did a more thorough

537
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,680
episode on imposter syndrome
from a different angle, so I

538
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,480
just wanted to let you all know
that's there and I'll also link

539
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,920
it in the show notes as well.
For me, I feel like imposter

540
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,400
system, imposter syndrome is
simply this.

541
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,760
It's people feel like they don't
have a seat at the table despite

542
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,520
them having the qualifications
to be at that table.

543
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,120
And that to me is when it's
imposter syndrome.

544
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,000
If there's insecurity, sometimes
it's because they really don't

545
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,240
know what they're doing.
But when you have the

546
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,040
qualifications and you're at
that table, you better be

547
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,560
confident that you're there.
And so I guess I was born

548
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,920
confident.
So I've never suffered from any

549
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,400
kind of imposter syndrome.
However, I'm humble enough to

550
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,120
know at that table, there's
going to be people who know a

551
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,960
little less than me and people
that know far more than me, and

552
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,520
I'm going to learn from both of
them.

553
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,200
And I think that's the
importance is I feel like I can

554
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,800
fit in anywhere because I
understand there is a great

555
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,800
amount to learn from everyone in
the room.

556
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,800
So I've never walked into a
space and said I don't belong

557
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,320
here.
I walked into this space

558
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,560
grateful that I was there and
I'm just going to make my place

559
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,320
there learning from everybody
because everybody has a lot to

560
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,520
give.
So I think if everybody could

561
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,160
just do that, just understand
that they are allowed in a room

562
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040
and as long as they're willing
to learn, I mean, hopefully that

563
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,200
word just goes away and pastor
syndrome shouldn't even exist.

564
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,440
It was something trendy to say
out loud.

565
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,880
And people said, oh, that's me
to have like a conversation when

566
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,640
sometimes it's kind of like when
someone says, oh, your outfit

567
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840
looks so good, you look so
beautiful today.

568
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,840
And we downplay it.
Like, why do we have to downplay

569
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,720
it?
We don't have to like, bring

570
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,800
ourselves down because someone
gave a compliment.

571
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,600
So I feel like that's something
that just came to like,

572
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,480
politely, like bring us down a
couple notches so we didn't feel

573
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,080
arrogant.
Agreed, Alex.

574
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,160
I saw your hand up earlier.
It just comes down to planning.

575
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,880
And I think that when people are
uncomfortable and they don't

576
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,960
feel like they have that seat at
the table, well, that's fine.

577
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280
But you can still be a very, you
can be, like you said, you can

578
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960
be very successful and not even
know it.

579
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,840
And what happens is people when
they're nervous, they revert

580
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,000
back to what's their comfort
zone is.

581
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,880
And if they're if they train
themselves to have a comfort

582
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,600
zone of something that's
comfortable, that is

583
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,920
professional, then you're going
to be successful.

584
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,240
Like this week, you know,
everybody is waiting to hear the

585
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680
opening because we do the
opening the same way.

586
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,120
The music, when it does work the
same way, you know, all the

587
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,360
stuff the same way.
And I look at what given

588
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,560
something as simple as what with
Lucy, she's learning how to play

589
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,000
a sport.
Lacrosse took her a year to kind

590
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560
of figure it out.
And it's a throwing catch.

591
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,880
And she went up against some
kids that were bigger.

592
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,640
And she just did what she was
supposed to do.

593
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,200
Not because she was better, just
because when she got totally

594
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560
nervous and she was out of her
comfort zone, she just did it.

595
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,120
And when she's on, when we
podcast together, she's better

596
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,679
than I am because she's just so
used to watching YouTube videos.

597
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,120
So I think that's the thing that
people have to understand is,

598
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,159
and I think Kate Katie said it
the best, it's about the work.

599
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,840
Nobody's an overnight success.
I mean, you know, better than

600
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,639
anybody actually being in the
music world, nobody's ever

601
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,159
overnight success.
You guys bust your ass as

602
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,719
musicians and you're constantly
working on your craft and then

603
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,480
all of a sudden somebody finally
notices you and then you're a

604
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,719
success.
It's not it, you know, it's like

605
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,679
with podcasting with the whole,
you know, Golden Globe Awards

606
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:47,199
when you know, poor, poor Mel
Robbins or DRS boyfriend is

607
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,159
going to get an award.
I mean, they just they, they

608
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,000
just were an overnight success,
right.

609
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,360
Oh, by the way, happy birthday
or anniversary, Julie, I guess

610
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,840
you have your little deal there.
Oh, happy birthday.

611
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,600
I did wanted to acknowledge some
of the messages that we're

612
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,520
getting in the chat.
Dave Campbell, to make a list of

613
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,880
things that you have learned to
do and use that list as proof

614
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,760
that you can do and learn new
things to counterbalance that

615
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,200
feeling of inadequacy.
Kate, who Alex referred to

616
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,640
before, she says the only way
out is through confidence only

617
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,440
grows by putting in the reps
Also don't care about what

618
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,400
others think.
Don't care about what others

619
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,400
think of you because they're not
you.

620
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Maybe that's what she meant.
Dave came back with a quote from

621
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,760
Theodore Roosevelt quote, do
what you can with what you've

622
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,800
got, where you are or maybe
where you are AT.

623
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,280
And Kate says, again, imposter
syndrome is an excuse.

624
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,800
What we think and talk about
grows.

625
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,440
So talking about progress and
next steps pushes us into action

626
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,160
instead of feeling stuck.
And Matthew, even though he's on

627
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,040
stage, she said it definitely
exists, but it's a frame for the

628
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,880
deeper issue.
As long as we don't build an

629
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,560
entire persona built on the
cookie cutter self help push by

630
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,400
the gurus, pushed by the gurus
with the solutions.

631
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,880
Yeah.
So those are some of the some.

632
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,200
Those are some of the comments
in the chat.

633
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,400
You know, I one of the shows
that I produce is a business

634
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,600
show and she had APR person on
one time and the PR person, her

635
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,720
first name is Leilani.
It stuck in my mind for some

636
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,160
reason.
Leilani and Leilani said, you

637
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,200
know what, you should embrace
imposter syndrome because it

638
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,800
means that you are breaking
through another layer of where

639
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,480
you've never been before.
Congratulations, you've broke

640
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,000
through that barrier, keep
breaking through barriers and

641
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,880
you broke through this one.
So congratulations.

642
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:58,400
It's just you're in unfamiliar
charted territory here, but you

643
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,360
brought yourself here.
So congratulations.

644
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,120
And I think that I kind of live
with those words a little bit.

645
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,360
So that was imposter syndrome.
And again, for those who that

646
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,920
are listening on replay, you
might experience imposter

647
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,880
syndrome.
I don't know what to say.

648
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,720
Just keep working through it.
Congratulations that you're in,

649
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,200
that you broke through the
barrier.

650
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,360
And I hope one day that you can
come on this show and talk about

651
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,400
it with us.
So it is about 15 minutes until

652
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,240
the end of the show.
We only have about 5 people on

653
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,040
stage with us and that it's not
going to fill up an entire 15

654
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,680
minutes.
So yeah, come on up.

655
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Ashley says come on up and share
your wins.

656
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,760
That's what I would love to see.
If anyone has any wins to share

657
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,280
and anyone coming up that's OK,
I will nobody.

658
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,800
Has.
Wins.

659
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,480
Nobody has wins.
I understand.

660
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,360
I will share my win.
It's kind of a weird win.

661
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,640
So my win is that I have a
client.

662
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,920
She is a retired pediatrician,
and she also has a seat on the

663
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,160
board of American Pediatrics
Association.

664
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,320
And she called me up yesterday
and said that she thinks that

665
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,480
June, after 250 episodes, she
thinks that June is going to be

666
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,240
her final month.
I love this client.

667
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,720
She's one of my favorite
clients.

668
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:33,800
I've learned a lot from her.
And I got this sense of just

669
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,160
this big smile on my face, like
I'm going to have time to do

670
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,880
stuff now.
I love working on hers and I'm

671
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,040
and I'm going to miss the money.
But I've been through all the

672
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,160
workshops, the masterminds, the
courses, I've spent money on

673
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,600
courses that I haven't even
cracked open yet because I just

674
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,640
haven't had the time.
And now I think I'm going to

675
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,520
have the time to do that.
I mean, I've even taken like

676
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,920
several courses on how to get
new clients, which is ridiculous

677
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,760
because I've had no time to open
up those courses to get the new

678
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,960
clients.
And even like if I did open up

679
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,920
the course, I wouldn't have the
time to, to have a new client.

680
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,320
So I am looking at this in a
completely different, completely

681
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,880
different way.
I for one, think that she's

682
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,880
actually not done.
She just, there's some things

683
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160
going on in her family.
Her husband is sick and that

684
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,680
she, she really even feels that
she's going to have to retire

685
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,240
from her seat from the, from the
board of Pediatrics.

686
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,640
That's how serious it is.
But I, for one, think that she's

687
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,400
probably going to come back.
I'm going to suggest, because

688
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,000
she likes to write, I'm going to
suggest that she start getting

689
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,200
really serious with her
newsletter and start referring

690
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,160
back to, well, in episode 76, we
talked about blah, blah, blah,

691
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,840
blah.
Or, you know, in episode 25, we

692
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,320
talked about.
So I think that she can still

693
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,240
perpetuate a community through a
newsletter.

694
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,240
Newsletter is not going to, you
know, she's going to be home and

695
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,480
I think that her creative juices
are going to be flowing and

696
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,200
she's going to need a place to
to put them.

697
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,920
So that's my win and I'm still
feeling good about it actually.

698
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,600
Ashley, what is your win?
If we can come back to me, I saw

699
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,720
Michael jumped up here.
If you'd like to go and go with

700
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:24,360
Michael.
Hi, Michael.

701
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Good morning everybody, hope
you're doing great.

702
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,520
Yes, I know you were light on
stage and thought I'd pop up.

703
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,600
So I think I mentioned a few
weeks ago that I am going

704
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,480
through Pat Flynn's Power Up
podcasting for the second time.

705
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,160
I did that when I had a previous
podcast and this time I'm doing

706
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,840
it with a cohort.
So the new podcast, the launch

707
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,600
date is going to be June the
1st.

708
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,840
As I get through this, I'm
making that commitment and

709
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,400
things are going well.
I've got the the equipment out

710
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,840
of the closet and adjusting it
off and setting it back up.

711
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,040
And so that's my win for the
week.

712
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Congratulations.
That's awesome.

713
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,040
That's awesome.
Well, let's go backwards on my

714
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160
phone.
Matthew is next to you.

715
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,160
Matthew, what's your win?
Well, First off, I want to say

716
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Dr. You'll have time to get that
podcast going.

717
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,120
That's exactly what I was
thinking about you.

718
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Exactly.
And I wanted to share something

719
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,760
similar to you actually, Dr.
being us being in kind of a

720
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,560
similar space.
I've resolved over the last

721
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,160
couple of months to start
disembarking a few clients that

722
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,640
I've had just to free up some
time and, you know, swap out

723
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,840
some some grandfathered in
clients so that I can bring in

724
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,000
some new ones that will pay the
rates that that I've kind of

725
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,200
worked myself up to over the
last couple of years.

726
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,520
The kind of the little win I had
this week is something that's

727
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,480
developed a little bit in my
mind over over the last few

728
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,400
weeks is that I've noticed when
I've been editing episodes more

729
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680
than usually it's audio, but
sometimes it's video as well.

730
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,240
Sometimes I'll notice I'm
smiling to myself as I edit, and

731
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,680
more than usually it's because
something interesting or

732
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,200
something insightful or funny
has happened.

733
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,080
But I didn't notice myself doing
it until I started to, you know,

734
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,800
reflect back on myself after a
period of time and noticed hang

735
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,960
on my my, my mouth is shaped in
a way that wasn't when I left it

736
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,560
when my brain exited my body to
to edit this show.

737
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,880
So I thought I'd share that as a
bit of a win.

738
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,600
And I've been meaning to post it
around social media a little bit

739
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,720
in the podcast editing groups to
take advantage of those moments

740
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:38,120
where you sit there and you're,
it's weird for us as producers

741
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,120
or editors doing stuff for
clients because it's not our

742
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,080
work, but we know we're
invested.

743
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,520
When you just sit back and
you're editing that episode and

744
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,240
you just smile to yourself and
go, that was pretty good.

745
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,040
I think that's a little bit of a
win.

746
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,520
That's awesome, Matthew.
I wanted to unpack maybe not

747
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,880
getting rid of that's not the
right phrase, but letting go

748
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,680
some clients off boarding.
So how do you how do you do

749
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,000
that?
What's the verbiage that you're

750
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,200
using on that?
I'm in an unusual position where

751
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,000
a lot of my clients have been
with me from the beginning of my

752
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,120
editing journey.
A lot of them have been

753
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,040
referrals or people that I know
and it makes the conversation a

754
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,680
little bit more difficult.
Yeah, because they want to

755
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,880
continue their show, they want
to keep going.

756
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,000
But the more clients you need to
take on to push up past that

757
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,200
right ceiling, the more that you
can't let them go, the more your

758
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,720
time disappears and you just
start running out of time.

759
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,520
I've managed to surround myself
with a few people that have

760
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,480
changed my thinking and my
approach and and I'll be

761
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,520
announcing my new podcast and
business direction very shortly.

762
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,240
It's very aligned to the way
that I think and I kind of need

763
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,280
to make a radical change to make
that happen.

764
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,840
TS TS But the thing that it has
to be is just communicating.

765
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Like a couple of times I've I've
taken the depressive step and

766
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,040
just knocked out and gone.
OK, guys, I just, it's too much

767
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,520
time.
This is it.

768
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,320
You got a few months and then
I'm going to have to leave you

769
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,840
guys to it.
And they kind of look at it and

770
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,320
go, which is fair enough to they
look at it and go hang on what?

771
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,840
We can't just stop.
You've been doing stuff for us,

772
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,800
but what I've found is
communicating with them, telling

773
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,160
them the journey because they're
your friends, they're peers,

774
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,040
they're collaborators, they're
partners, especially if they've

775
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,600
come by referral, Telling them
what the justification is, how

776
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,840
they can work into that journey.
To make your podcasting journey

777
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,880
easier, your podcast editing and
business journey easier is going

778
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,800
to be much more rewarding and
fruitful than treating it like a

779
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,840
business relationship and then
hoping that the personal

780
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,320
relationship remains afterwards.
I think just the business,

781
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,960
podcasting industry and
business, just like podcasting

782
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,760
itself, it's all about
partnership and collaboration.

783
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:57,160
And I think that's probably the
biggest thing that I've learned

784
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,840
that will hopefully allow me to
off board those lovely clients

785
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,600
that I've had or will have.
And yeah, justify that chat a

786
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,160
little bit.
Cool.

787
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,280
Thank you.
It doesn't matter if it's

788
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,800
podcasting or any other type of
business.

789
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,760
I mean, clients are, you know,
working with clients is always a

790
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,960
especially when you're a quote
UN quote small business where

791
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,760
it's you or just a couple of
people.

792
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,160
It's always difficult, but
that's why you have to in

793
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,400
podcasting, quote UN quote,
train your guests, I'm assuming

794
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,840
as an editor or someone that's
that's, you know, buying your

795
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,680
service.
You have to train your clients

796
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,040
too on how you work.
So if you are upfront, when it

797
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,120
is time to kind of part ways,
whether you want to part ways

798
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,680
with them or they want to part
ways with you, you know, at

799
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,360
least you're on the same page.
Because I, I know with clients

800
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,160
in my non podcasting life, you
know, we've had to get rid of

801
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,840
people and they've had to get
rid of me for whatever reason.

802
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,360
And, and sometimes it's just not
a hard feelings.

803
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,800
It's just, you know, it didn't
work because it wasn't the right

804
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,840
fit.
So that's something that's kind

805
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,840
of interesting.
And it's great to hear that

806
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,760
you're going to be actually
rebranding or starting a new

807
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,120
podcast.
I think it's great that you're

808
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,000
going to, you know, you're going
to get Dr. to actually drop an

809
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,760
episode too.
Oh.

810
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,120
God, that's the first thing I
thought of when this happened to

811
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,600
me.
Janae, thank you so much for

812
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,080
coming up on stage.
Do you have a win that you can

813
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,560
share with us?
Morning.

814
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,960
Yes, I absolutely do.
Thank you so much.

815
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,800
Yesterday I got to report a
podcast episode in person, the

816
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,840
Charlie Burnie Friends of
podcasting morning chat here.

817
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,800
He's also a friend of Mark.
We did a podcast meet up last

818
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,560
year and got to go over to his
studio over at Podville Media.

819
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,720
Really nice space tattoo at this
in person conversation.

820
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000
I mean, I'll have conversation
and we do these all the time.

821
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,760
But when you do it in person,
there's a whole nother level of

822
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,440
engagement that you get with
your guests.

823
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,360
So that wasn't that was an
awesome win.

824
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Thank you, Janae.
I appreciate it.

825
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,360
And lo and behold, ladies and
gentlemen, Big Daddy is come up

826
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,800
on stage.
Mark, how are you?

827
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,800
I'm OK, I'm actually on the
flight.

828
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,200
It should be taken off any
minute.

829
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,760
Awesome, and what is your win?
My win is that I'm taking off

830
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,320
any minute.
Exactly.

831
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,720
I can appreciate that.
And it's that I was able to

832
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:37,520
enjoy 11 day vacation across the
pond and got to enjoy a couple

833
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,800
of new countries, new to me
countries.

834
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,480
It was really an unbelievable
vacation and I'm so grateful we

835
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,520
had the opportunity to do it.
Coming back renewed and

836
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:53,800
refreshed and with lots of ideas
and ready to. 100% I am looking

837
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,720
forward to jumping back in
Monday and relieving you all.

838
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,440
I know this, I don't want to
call it a burden, but this big

839
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,760
responsibility and I'm so
grateful to all of you for

840
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,920
holding down the Fort while I
was gone.

841
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,960
And like I said, really excited
to be back on Monday.

842
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:15,200
Well, we thought that maybe you
might even take Monday off

843
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,960
because you know the whole jet
lag thing happening, so you

844
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,760
don't see that happening.
No, I think I'm going to be

845
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,560
there Monday, no problem.
Awesome.

846
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,720
It was great.
We can hardly wait for you to

847
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,760
get home.
That's fantastic.

848
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,080
I'm excited to be there.
Thank you guys.

849
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,880
Good deal Amanda, you are the
next one on my list and talk to

850
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,320
me about your wins.
So my wins for the week is I was

851
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,320
able to use the word know often
and for many.

852
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,200
I know for many a year is that
has been a struggle.

853
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,080
I'm an overdoer for others and
while I love it, I'm getting

854
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,200
older and my like bandwidth, my
stamina to just keep running

855
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,920
without it affecting like my
body or my mind is just getting

856
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,520
harder and harder to do.
So I've kind of out of what?

857
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:02,920
Ditto.
Right.

858
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Like it really just hit me this
year.

859
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,440
I'm like, wow.
So I've just really, I'm having

860
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,560
fun.
I'm not saying having fun,

861
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,560
saying no, having fun, being in
the season that I feel like I

862
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,200
can say no.
And just because I say no today

863
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,880
doesn't mean it's not a no in
three months or a yes in three

864
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,520
months.
But you know, I only have so

865
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,480
much bandwidth and got to put it
where it's most important.

866
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,960
And then and also, even if I
have the extra time, is that

867
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,840
where I want to spend it?
Or do I just want to like sit

868
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,160
down and be able to be more
present in this room because I I

869
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,960
enjoy this or have just a cup of
coffee with a girlfriend.

870
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,360
So I'm really kind of re
prioritizing things a little bit

871
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,880
too.
So I just, I don't know if this

872
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,840
has been a week of no and I've
been loving it.

873
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,120
It sounds so mean.
No, I think it's sounds really

874
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,360
cool and he's great.
Congratulations.

875
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,360
That doesn't mean if anyone
sends me a message it's going to

876
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,520
be a no.
OK?

877
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,280
It just it just might be.
That's awesome, Alex, what is

878
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,360
your win today?
I'm not accepting your nose.

879
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,240
That's right.
It's kind of funny because my

880
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,560
win actually has to do with
podfast.

881
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,760
So I I met one of the people
from Ecam, Katie, she's one of

882
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:27,440
the the PR people for for Ecam
and she has a podcast on called

883
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,800
the VHS club.
It's a live slash podcast video

884
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,800
that she does and she's always
looking for guests.

885
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,640
So I guessed it on that
yesterday and it was so much

886
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,360
fun.
We did a Major League, the movie

887
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,520
Major League, so if you want to
check that out, and that's my

888
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,720
podcast Win for the week.
Awesome.

889
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,280
And Ashley, what is your big win
for the week?

890
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,720
Thanks, Shaw.
So my big win for the week is

891
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:58,880
this week we had two very
successful productions for my

892
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,760
clients podcast, My Happy Ass
Life.

893
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:05,080
And the coolest thing happened
on Wednesday.

894
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,960
We had a production and as I was
setting up the equipment in her

895
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,680
space, I, I was just asking her,
so tell me a little bit about

896
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,080
the guests you have today.
And she mentioned the name.

897
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,640
And at first I didn't think much
of it, but then I got to think

898
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,560
about like, I know her.
I know that name.

899
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,680
She got married.
It was a hyphenated name.

900
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,280
And when she walked in the room,
I realized who she was.

901
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,080
She was my classmate from high
school from 20 years ago.

902
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
And we have talked to each other
in 20 years.

903
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,080
So that was really cool how
podcasting reconnected us and we

904
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,080
exchanged information and we're
going to maybe do some stuff

905
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,800
together creatively.
And the other when I have is

906
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,320
Karen has decided to turn her
upstairs office into somewhat of

907
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,680
a podcast studio.
And she's hiring me for

908
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,960
additional work to basically
outfit the place, put in the

909
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,840
lights, the mics, the she's
going to get some sort of a

910
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,600
board.
And you know, we were talking

911
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,840
about that in front of the other
guests we had yesterday.

912
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,560
And he says, well, I'm doing the
same thing.

913
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,280
Let's talk about you doing that
for me.

914
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,240
So those are some cool
opportunities coming up to out

915
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,440
outfit these spaces for folks.
So Ashley, let me ask you

916
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,040
something.
And I know that we are at the

917
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,400
top of the hour here, but I know
that you just recently lost a

918
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,080
client and it was really hard on
you.

919
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,880
Has these opportunities opened
up after the client was lost?

920
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Oh yeah, that was about two
weeks ago.

921
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,120
And I knew, even though it was a
bummer in that, you know, that

922
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,480
gut punch moment, I knew
something would happen.

923
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000
And it's just always a question
of when you know.

924
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,080
Wow, That is very affirming for
me.

925
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,640
That's really affirming for me.
So I'm going to do one last win

926
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,720
before we close, and the last
win is this stage today.

927
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,240
Thank you so much for everyone
on the stage helping me out.

928
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,440
I was really grasping today.
Really, really grasping.

929
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,080
And through the magic of
Ashley's editing, I'm sure she's

930
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,520
going to make it a lot less
sounding, a lot less grasping.

931
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,280
So I appreciate that.
And I want everyone to go out

932
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,680
and make it a great weekend and
come back Monday because you'll

933
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,240
be hearing Big Daddy's voice,
Mark Ronic.

934
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,080
And have a great weekend,
everybody.

935
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,120
Bye bye.