Struggling to Stay Consistent? How One Creator Solved It with AI

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Good morning podcasting Morning
chat.

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Today is Monday, November 10th,
2025, and today if you're

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drowning in tasks and feeling
short on time, you're going to

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relate.
Our own Nick Naulback joins us

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to share how he built his own AI
app in 48 hours to fix it.

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please share this episode with a

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fellow podcaster.
Now give us about 30 seconds.

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We'll get things rolling.
Thanks for being here.

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Good morning again, podcasting,
Morning Chat.

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Thanks so much for being here.
I am your host Mark Ronik, and

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currently on stage with me we
have Dr. Faye, Jonathan Howard,

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Feel Better, Sid Meadows and
Nick Nallback.

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And hello to Ralph and Dave who
have joined us as well, and feel

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free to come on up and join us
and join the conversation this

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morning.
And today we're going to dig

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into something Nick posted on
LinkedIn.

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He started a newsletter, and
we'll get into all of that.

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But most importantly, I have
known a little bit about this

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behind the scenes.
He's built an app that I think

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could be huge for a lot of
content creators.

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And more importantly, he did it
with AI and did it relatively

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quickly.
I know it still has some work to

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do, but the meat and potatoes of
it in just 48 hours.

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So we're going to hear what
prompted Nick to do this, pardon

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the pun, and what it actually
is.

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How could it help us?
So we'll dig into that as well.

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I'm glad Nick liked my pun was
not planned.

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It just kind of happened that
way.

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Anyway, I do want to remind you,
as you know if you've been

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following along the past few
weeks, Podcasting Morning Chat

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has been doing a weekly podcast
evaluation.

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People are submitting their
podcasts for us to review,

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discuss and share what we like
about it, what we think could be

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improved, just to really help
another fellow podcaster be all

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that they can be.
Her lack of a better way of

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putting it.
But this coming week we're going

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to be dissecting and yes,
another pun this morning because

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the name of the podcast is Exam
Room Nutrition.

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This is a podcast that's helping
medical professionals give

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better nutritional guidance to
their patients and improve

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outcomes.
So we're, I'm looking forward to

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digging into this one.
I think this person found us on

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LinkedIn originally and asked to
submit their show.

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So I will share that with my
team that's here with me on

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stage.
I will share links with you all

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in our private chats, although
I'm going to share it also in

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the show notes and share it here
live with all of you as well.

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This way, if you want to follow
along this week or participate

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even and join us on stage, you
can.

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And remember, we don't just do
the episode itself.

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We talked about the whole
podcast from everything from the

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title of the series to the cover
art to series description to

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episode titles, etcetera,
etcetera, etcetera.

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We do it all, so even if you
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that we'll be evaluating,
there'll be plenty to comment on

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for sure.
This is going to be.

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Interesting, because I think
this is going to be our first

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one that we've done that's an
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Yes, that's right.
This is yes, so far the how many

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have we done?
3 now and all three have been

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solo podcasts, which is
interesting because it feels

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like most podcasts are always
interview based or just so many

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of them are.
So yeah, our first one interview

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based episode.
That's cool.

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And also I was going to try to
tell you that I'm coming to you

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using the brand new Zoom pod
track P4 next.

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This is basically like a mini
Rd. caster pro or to maybe some

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who don't know what a roadcaster
Pro is in an audio mixer.

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This is where I can plug in
clubhouse.

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I can meaning plug in my phone,
I can plug in my computer, I can

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plug in four different
microphones all to it and it

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captures everything and even
multi tracks it etcetera.

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Well, I've been using the Zoom
pod track P4, the predecessor.

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I usually use that when I'm
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And I saw that this new model
came out the P4 next.

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And as a gadget guy, I kind of
was like, I got to get it.

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And partially because I feel
like it's a cool thing for me to

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do as somebody who people come
to for advice on different areas

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of podcasting, including
equipment.

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So I figured, let me get this
and start playing with it.

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And I had it all set up and some
of you were here with me testing

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it live before we officially
started.

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And it was doing OK, but it
sounded different to everybody.

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And then somebody told me
they're they heard some

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crackling and that ain't going
to cut it.

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So I think I have to continue to
play with the settings a little

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bit and not play with it 3
minutes before Showtime.

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I'm going to be the the token
non gear head here and ask some

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rudimentary questions like why
would the new podcaster need

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this?
So I would say that the new

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podcaster doesn't need it, but I
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that would be helpful and it's
relatively affordable.

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When we talk about podcast
equipment, I've shared before

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the Roadcaster Pro 2, which is
what I am using right now to

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record this.
It's a $700.00 piece of

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equipment and not something I
would encourage a new podcaster

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to get.
But if a new podcaster has a

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more complex setup or or
aspiring to have one, meaning

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maybe they have more than one
person recording in the same

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room at the same time.
Maybe they're using their phone

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to take callers, whether they're
using something like Clubhouse

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like us or something else.
If there are different things

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that you want happening all at
the same time as far as hardware

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goes, you really do quote UN
quote need a mixer like the P4.

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Next, there are other models out
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This is not the one and only,
but it will help you marry all

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of the different pieces of your
audio equipment together and at

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a very affordable price.
And if you're a podcaster, let's

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say new or veteran that's maybe
on the go a lot, getting

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something like the P4 next is a
great solution because it's

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small, it's really lightweight,
and it allows you to do all the

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things I just shared with you.
So those would be some reasons

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why you would consider getting
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The cost of its 179 I believe,
and I know I should be sharing a

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link live here.
We will make sure to share

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everything in the show notes as
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No Ashley, no producer Ashley
today, so she usually would be

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the one to put this link up for
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I'll make sure I I get it up for
you at some point here in the

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show and Speaking of which you
know I'm I'm going to probably

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share an Amazon link Black
Friday's coming.

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So maybe this is something you
want to consider because who

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knows?
We'll see.

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It's a new item, but that
doesn't mean it won't go on

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sale.
All right, let me check in.

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Jonathan, good morning to you.
I know you are holding down the

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Fort over on CHATTER.
Thank you.

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And an official happy birthday.
Thank you very much, Mark.

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I appreciate it.
You're welcome.

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Happy birthday to you, Sir.
And you've gone public with it,

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so I'm going to just say it. 45
years old today.

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Happy birthday to.
You 45 milestone birthday.

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Yeah, absolutely.
All right.

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And I know Sid wanted to chime
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Good morning to you.
Good morning, everybody.

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Mark, I'm just curious, recently
you bought an iPhone and now you

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bought this kind of little
gadget.

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Does Amy know where your credit
card is and how you're using it?

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She did question when I posted
to my stories on Friday.

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I posted a quick video of the P4
next and I wrote something like

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new podcast Toy Alert and she
was scrolling and stopped there

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and she looked at me.
New toy.

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Yeah, she does not have.
Well, she does actually

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technically have access to the
business credit card, but she

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doesn't check it regularly.
You better be careful dude.

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She might start stalking it and.
See what's going on?

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It is a business expense and a
write off for that matter

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because here I am talking and
reviewing the product right now.

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Ralph is on the stage so he
knows all about the write offs.

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That's right, Ralph.
Yeah, I was going to say

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definitely a good business write
off, keep the receipt.

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The other thing I like about it,
I think it's a good thing to

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have sort as a fall back if like
if you got other equipment and

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something fails, I think that's
a great thing to keep you know,

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in your go bag if you will in
case you run into a problem.

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100% yes, agreed.
And again, an affordable

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solution in comparison anyway to
this kind of equipment.

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So I will real quick just say
the Zoom P4 has four XLR inputs.

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It has two USB inputs so I can
plug in both my computer and my

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phone into it, which is what I
did pre show this morning with

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some of you.
It has four headphone jacks for

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those 4 microphones so everybody
can monitor themselves.

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It has other stuff on here too
that lots of other little

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features too, including an AI
noise reduction button.

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So when I press that, I was
testing that out and what

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happens is you press it and it
basically has you stand by and

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it reads the room, if you will.
It basically listens to the

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room, listens for noises and
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And from what my test so far
works really well and it's not

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too extreme.
That was my one concern is if it

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would really do a number on that
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But it does it in a really nice
subtle way that that seems to be

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effective.
So I'm digging it.

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Do you believe it's better than
the the P4?

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The.
Original 1.

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I mean, I think it's a close
call.

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It's I like it.
It feels a little bit smaller.

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It's probably a little wider,
but it definitely feels a little

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smaller and it just feels a
little more updated.

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The other one felt a little
outdated to me.

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Do you also think if you had
intro music, do you have to put

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that on a card or how does that
work?

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Well, yes and no.
You can do it that way.

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You can put it the audio file on
a card and then assign it to one

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of the sound pad buttons.
But this one works really

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nicely.
I can plug it right into my

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computer.
And yes, there is an SD card in

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here, but I can transfer files
from directly from my computer

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to the P4 and the memory card
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I guess the question is, and
this is my biggest issue with

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the P4, if I use intro music, it
puts it on a different track and

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therefore it doesn't help in the
long run because it's just

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another track I have to pull out
to put back into the editing, if

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that makes any sense.
It does, and it's funny, Alex,

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because there are some
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it that way.
They want the the separate files

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for everything because it gives
you more flexibility in the

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editing.
But I hear what you're saying.

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I mean, for the most part, we
haven't been doing multi track

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recording here at the podcasting
morning check.

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We do one single track.
Sometimes that's easier just to

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get the edit done quickly.
It saves you some steps.

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Yeah.
And you can change things.

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There are settings you can
change in both the P4 or the new

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P4 next.
You can change it to just be

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single track recording if that's
the preference.

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So I can always show you how to
do that off air.

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OK, So any other questions by
the way, before I move on

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regarding the P4 next, I was
going to ask one question.

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Mark.
Sure.

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Ralph, are you concerned about
the durability?

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Because I heard someone else
talking about the day.

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We're a little worried about it
being so lightweight, like the

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rate the P4 that I have now has
kind of got some durability to

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it.
Are you concerned about the

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durability of that one?
I can tell you when I first took

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it out, I did question it like
it does feel, you know when I

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say lightweight, it feels
lightweight to almost to the

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point where you question the
durability.

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But I will say I have them both
here in front of me on purpose

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'cause I figured we might talk
about the two and compare them

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and to me they feel as far as
durability goes in your hand,

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how that feels.
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I don't feel a big difference at

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all.
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weight.
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slightly lighter, but overall
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with how it feels durability
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think you'd be just as
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All right, time to shift some
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Nick Naul back.
So Nick posted on LinkedIn.

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Was it, I think it was over the
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Friday or Saturday about this
new app that he's built on his

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own using AI.
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what really was the inspiration
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So first, good morning to you,
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And I know that in the article
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shared with me that you got
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because of your own struggles
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So what was, what was share some
of those frustrations with me

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and maybe one of the biggest
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workflow because I know this is
specific to workflow if I'm not

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mistaken.
Go ahead, Nick.

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Good morning.
Hey, good morning.

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Everybody and happy birthday,
Jonathan Big 4-5.

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Yeah.
So I I've been playing around

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with the coding, the developing
apps and I've primarily just

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been doing that for myself,
developing apps for like the the

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Rabbit R1 device that I've
talked about several times here

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and I got.
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Thinking about a tool that I
would use and a tool that other

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people would use.
And I mean, most of you know

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that I have not been hosting
contents at all for a good chunk

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of time.
Yeah, I always try to inspire

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you every time.
Like you'll be behind the

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scenes, you'll share something
with me.

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I'll try to Nick.
That would be great content.

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You should make some content
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See, I do like usually I'm in
the office and I'm thinking

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like, God, he's right.
That would be such a good piece

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of content.
And then I go home and I'm like,

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I just need to chill.
I can't I can't do this.

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So you.
Actually.

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Keep doing that if you don't
mind, it is helping me.

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Yeah, sure thing.
But yeah, a lot, a lot of that

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was.
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from the 95 podcast.
I was creating this podcast and

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I was so freaking burnt out from
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you just publish an episode and
you're done.

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Like you're publishing an
episode, you're creating content

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around that episode.
You're constantly pushing that

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piece of content in a multitude
of different ways, all to just

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start the process over again.
And it it does wear on you over

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time.
And I've been basically skirting

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around, I guess the core issue
by changing things up, going

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from podcasting to focusing on
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and all of us doing was just
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It wasn't changing the, the real
problem and that was I was just

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so overwhelmed with all of the
things to do and not really

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knowing what I should focus on
1st or right now necessarily.

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So that was kind of the the
thought process as I was

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thinking about this app and kind
of building out what it is and

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what it's going to.
Be and I know for a while you

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used Notion a lot and I know you
even used a lot of their built

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in AI to customize it to help
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So what happened with that?
Like did did that just not work

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for you?
And how come?

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I actually still use Notion and

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I'm using it right now like as
kind of a a road map feature

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tracker, bug tracker kind of
thing for this app that I'm

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building right now.
I don't know, it just it wasn't

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working for me.
I, it was working for a while

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and then it became kind of one
of those things that just like

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is there, it's on your phone.
It's something that I, I know is

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there, but not really paying
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because with notion, as powerful

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as it is, in order to build the
things that I wanted and needed.

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As far as like a flow for how
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There were too many like little
nuances that I was like, OK, if

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I want to do this and I have to
make sure I hit these two

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buttons.
And then if I hit those two

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buttons and I have to hit these,
it's like you had to have a very

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specific process for using it
and it just it was almost more

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of a block than it was actually
a help in the long.

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Run.
OK, so then let's talk about it.

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What I would imagine then you
couldn't find other types of

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apps out there to do exactly
what you want to do.

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So what is it about this app
that you feel like is unique?

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What is it really going to do
for the content creator?

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OK.
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So.
The app itself is basically like

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at least right now I have plans
to progress it, but the app

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right now is basically like a
project management kind of like

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To Do List sort of app.
And the idea behind it is that

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you are going to build out your
flow, your work flow.

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So for podcasting, it might be
OK, I need to research the topic

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I'm going to do.
I need to create an outline for

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this.
I need to reach out to the guest

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or I need to script the podcast
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And you're basically building
out what that workflow is going

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to look like for that type of
project is what I'm calling it.

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So each episode is going to be
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Once that workflow is built out,
then you go and create the

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project.
So you're going to say, I'm

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going to do episode 5 of my
podcast and I'm going to use,

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I'm going to assign that
workflow, that podcast

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production workflow to that
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bring in all of the tasks

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associated with that workflow
into that project.

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So that project now episode 5 is
going to say I need to research

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the topic, I need to outline it,
I need to record it, I need to

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edit it, do all these things.
And then what's?

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Really cool and I think this is.
A big part of where I struggle

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is with the timing of all of
these tasks because I would be

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incredibly ambitious and I would
be like, OK, I'm going to get

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this done, this done, this done,
this done, this done.

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And I have a whole list of stuff
that I wanted to get done

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throughout the day.
And then I'd get like 3 things

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done that list and I'd be like,
I suck, I can't.

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Like I didn't get anything done
that I wanted to get done.

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of that, like understanding how

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long do these things actually
take was a hindrance on a lot of

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that and it just being a bad
mental space.

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So as you build these things
out, you you estimate time.

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So editing an episode's going to
take me an hour, whatever that

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is for you.
But then overtime, it's actually

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going to track how long these
tasks are actually taking you.

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So after you've tracked editing
a podcast three times, like you

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actually set a timer.
Like when you start editing a

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podcast, you hit the timer on
that task, it's going to track

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time.
And after you've recorded 3 of

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that specific task, it's going
to come back the next time you

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go to do it and say, hey, you
have it estimated at 60 minutes,

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but it usually takes you 90.
And it gives you a better gauge

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as to how long the tasks are
actually going to take you to

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do.
And this is just kind of the

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first phase of this whole thing
getting this working.

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But yeah, I'll leave at that for
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Awesome.
And so I love that because I'm

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curious.
Anybody listening live right

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now, do me a favor.
In the chat, put A1.

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If you've tracked how long each
of your tasks to create content

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takes you put a one in the chat,
for example.

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Yeah, look at Matt says yes, he
knows how long all of his.

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That doesn't surprise me about
you, Matt, for some reason, but

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yeah OK anyone else?
Yeah put a one in the in the

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chat if you know how long it
takes you to edit or A2 if you

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don't.
I'm curious.

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Well, I'm shocked and Jonathan
says one as well.

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I'd.
I could not tell you how long

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each task takes me.
Sid says 2.

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OK, so Nick does this also and I
would do want to get to how

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you've built this because I know
you don't really have any coding

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experience, so you turns to AI
and I want to dig into that as

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well.
But first tell me a little bit

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more about the app.
Now I think it's cool that it

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tracks all that and it can even
guide you a little bit like hey,

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you, you think this takes you an
hour, but it's taking you more.

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Do you want to adjust things?
I think all of that is great.

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And does it actually help you at
all with any of the tasks?

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That is a great question.
And that is going to be kind of

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the next phase of this.
So right now, initially when I

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built the app, I wanted it to be
an AI app using AI.

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It helps you with research.
It helps you like accomplish

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different things in your
workflow.

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And then I thought, and I was
like, I need to take a step

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back.
Like, that's cool, but I'm going

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to have to basically take that
information someplace else, put

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it into like a notion and start
tracking.

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Like, OK, I did this stuff over
in my app.

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Now I need to bring it over to
Notion, log it there.

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Now I need to come back to my
app.

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And I didn't like the idea of
having to like just add another

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tool to the text stack.
I wanted it to be the tool that

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you go to.
So that's why I stepped back and

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like focused on the project
management piece of it.

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Like how does it handle tasks?
How can it track your workflow

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and help you manage your work
better?

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The next phase of this, once I
get people testing in it and

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playing around with what I
currently have, is to start

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bringing in AI.
And the AI is going to again,

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focusing on content creators.
It is going to help with the

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research and not, not the same
way that like you go to ChatGPT

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and you say help me come up with
an idea.

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It's we're going to come up with
an idea, but then we're also

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going to look at what content
have you already done that is

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working for you that has been
successful more some of your

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competitors doing right now and
what have they done that has

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been successful?
And then how do we take this

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topic idea and make it better so
that it has a much better shot

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of shining online?
So it's going to be a little bit

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more in depth as far as the the
research and analysis from the

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AI side of it, which I am super
pumped about getting into.

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I'm kind of nervous because I
think it's not going to be as

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easy as just like, Hey, build me
this.

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So.
It's, it's going to take some

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time to get to that point, but
I'm really excited to see that

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part of it come to fruition.
And on the other side of it,

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after I got into the project
management piece, the tracking,

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the time and all that, what I
really wanted to do from that

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side is basically say, hey,
Mark, you do really well on your

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creative tasks in the morning.
You do a lot better on like more

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admin stuff, outreach, Regent
sponsors, that kind of thing in

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the afternoon.
Like your time is so much better

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in the afternoon on those tasks.
So rather than you having to go

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in and assign to say, OK, these
are the tests I'm going to work

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on right now.
AI will look at all the tasks,

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look at how long it takes you to
do everything and be like, hey,

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Mark, you're spending your time
much better on creative tasks in

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the morning.
So maybe you should focus on

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these three tasks now.
And we're going to push off some

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of the more admin e-mail
outreach, that kind of stuff in

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the afternoon because you tend
to be better on that in the

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afternoon.
So there's a couple.

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Different levels to this that
I'm going to be building and

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it's going to kind of be a
phased roll out as I continue

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building this.
But that's kind of the the hope

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and vision for the app as a
whole.

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It's going to do the research
for you and it's going to

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actually tell you what to do and
when to do it kind of thing.

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OK, got it.
I, I'd love the idea that it can

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also, or it will eventually
start to track and understand

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where you're more productive,
what time of day you're more

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productive on certain types of
tasks.

449
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Look, I think that all of this
is, is an area that a lot of us

450
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,200
don't hear the gurus talking
about, right?

451
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:37,000
Like time management is probably
an, an incredibly helpful thing

452
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,360
to us, yet we don't really talk
about it a lot.

453
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,160
So having an app for content
creators specifically to help us

454
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,440
manage our time better when we
know that that's probably the

455
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,720
number one complaint from
creators, is that we feel like

456
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,480
we're being pulled in so many
directions.

457
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,520
We have so many pieces of the
puzzle to put together each and

458
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,800
every episode.
This would be, I think, really

459
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,280
valuable.
So, and I want anyone on stage

460
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,800
or if you're in the audience, if
you have questions for Nick, by

461
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,760
all means, please come on up to
the stage, flash and emoji,

462
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,520
etcetera.
I want to want you to ask your

463
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,800
questions as well.
I'll go to Matt and then I've

464
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,600
got another question for Nick as
well.

465
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Go ahead, Matt.
Thanks for heeding the call.

466
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,560
Good morning again.
Good morning.

467
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,640
It's you speak in my language
Nick with this.

468
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:32,040
I even reached out to you on
LinkedIn comment and said the

469
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,000
way that I do this at the moment
is I've set up a flow, an

470
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,960
integration between To Do List
where I track the tasks that I

471
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,640
need to do.
And what was previously toggle

472
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,160
is now toggle track where I can
have a task in my to do system

473
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,920
that I can click a button and it
starts a timer in toggle which

474
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,280
is what that app is intended
for.

475
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,280
It tracks time for tasks taken
and it has inbuilt stuff for

476
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,640
tracking billing and cost and
clients and projects and all

477
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160
that kind of stuff.
So I use that very simply.

478
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,600
The thing that's missing that
you offer with this is the that

479
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,120
it kind of feeds back to you
automatically what you should be

480
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,840
thinking about.
And this is the most valuable

481
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,680
part.
I think that a lot of value, as

482
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Mark said, comes through with
tracking the time for you, which

483
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,320
people don't think to do.
I think intuitively, Mark, when

484
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,800
you said that no one talks about
time stuff, maybe in podcasting

485
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,440
they should be talking about it
more.

486
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,680
But I, I kind of heard that and
I thought, what are you talking

487
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,200
about?
Everybody in who's in the

488
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,160
productivity space talks about
calendar blocking or task

489
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,680
tracking and all that kind of
thing.

490
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920
It's, it's talked about a lot,
but the thing that's missed is

491
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,960
what someone should do with the
tools to enable them to pull it

492
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,080
into their workflow, like
calendar blocking.

493
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Great.
That saves you a ton of time.

494
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,520
How can I do that for myself?
And does it work?

495
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,440
And you kind of have to take it
for a spin.

496
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,280
What you've got here, Nick is a,
a copilot that tells you whether

497
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,280
you should or shouldn't be doing
a ton of things in a day.

498
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,480
And I think the biggest blocker
for me is that you kind of need

499
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,240
a time sink unless you can input
some predictive data to get

500
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,120
things going because people have
to spend some time with the app

501
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,320
in order for the AI to start to
predict the tasks that the the

502
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,760
time it takes the tasks to do.
So the the major things that I

503
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,920
brought up with you initially
was the calendar integration,

504
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,280
which I think would be awesome.
Like you go to it on a Sunday or

505
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,160
a Monday.
We can have that argument today

506
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,920
as well if you want the when
does your week begin?

507
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,120
Does it begin on Sunday or does
it begin on Monday?

508
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,960
And doing that wrap up and
planning out what your late week

509
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,440
looks like and then having it
just into your calendar without

510
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,440
you having to do a whole lot.
So that calendar integration is

511
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,360
a big piece and the time
tracking piece to feed it

512
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,920
forward into productivity.
I think there's a lot of ways

513
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,880
that you could use someone's
mood to figure out what they'd

514
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,720
like to do because I wouldn't
want the AI to tell me what I

515
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
should be doing this week.
That's like having a boss that

516
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,280
dictates your entire week a
micromanager.

517
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,240
But instead if I'm like, I'm a
bit tired today, I might take

518
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,960
Monday a little bit slow.
Give me some low cognitive

519
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,680
systems 2 stuff and then some
systems 1 stuff that requires

520
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,200
the creativity a bit later in
the week.

521
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Or maybe the AI can take on a
you're a morning person and you

522
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,320
love to eat the frog.
So you're going to do your heavy

523
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,920
work in the morning and in the
afternoon you're going to get

524
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:04,200
LED off into, you know, fun time
where you record your podcast or

525
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,960
whatever.
I'm, I'm basically treating this

526
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,080
as my private consultation,
Nick, which I think would be

527
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,400
beneficial for anyone who wants
to learn what people should be

528
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,280
thinking about when they do
their content creation.

529
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:20,840
So how does that make you feel?
I actually I really like that I.

530
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,800
When I saw your comment about
suggesting task based based on

531
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,760
your mood, I didn't, I didn't
fully grasp, but what you're

532
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
saying right there makes a lot
of sense to me.

533
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,680
And I'm, I'm thinking as you
were talking, I'm thinking about

534
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,400
how what is the best way that
that would be integrated or like

535
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
kind of a seamless experience
from the user side.

536
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
I'll probably reach out to you
Matt and talk more about.

537
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,080
That specifically because I I do
like that idea.

538
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,160
I think that's pretty sweet.
I mean, it would be kind of cool

539
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,000
if you could log in and one of
the first things it asks us asks

540
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,080
you is how are you feeling today
or how are you feeling right

541
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,160
now, right?
And every time you log log in

542
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,920
it, it asks you and so that you
can kind of keep it updated and

543
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800
then it can adjust accordingly.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking

544
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,960
like just a simple one through
10 kind of scale how how you

545
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,400
feeling today kind of thing
would be probably pretty easy to

546
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,440
put into it.
Nick, I know we don't have you

547
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,560
for the next 20 or so minutes,
so I want to make sure I also

548
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,800
hear a little bit now.
First, we haven't said if

549
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,080
there's a name to this app yet,
so let's go there.

550
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,480
And then also, let's talk a
little bit about how the heck

551
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,200
you built this if you don't have
any experience building apps,

552
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360
yes.
But I have been hesitant about

553
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,040
sharing the name of it yet
because I have not purchased a

554
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,760
domain for it.
So I do have that on my list of

555
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,880
to do's, but I didn't want to
come out with this thing

556
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,000
publicly post about it and then
have someone just like swipe the

557
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,280
name from under me.
So I I've been keeping that to

558
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,480
myself.
People that are joining the

559
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,960
beta, they will see what the
name is of it and know what it

560
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,200
is called because it it does
have a name.

561
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,960
But I've I've kept that under
wraps.

562
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960
That's probably something I need
to do this week is get that

563
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
domain so.
How did you build it?

564
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,960
Yeah.
So the building side of it, I

565
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,240
actually every so to mark what
was it like 2-3 weeks ago now

566
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:21,920
maybe and said, hey, I might be
cancelling my ChatGPT Plus and I

567
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,880
think I'm going to get slawed
pro instead, I'm going to

568
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,240
replace it.
And for those that don't know,

569
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,400
the plus is the $20.00 a month
version of ChatGPT.

570
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Yes, so I'm basically swapping
the ChatGPT paid account for the

571
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,960
clawed paid account.
And the big reason for that was

572
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,560
because 1, Claude is primarily
just better at coding tasks than

573
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320
tragic BT is.
But two, I've just been seeing a

574
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240
lot of people posting about some
of the, the tools that they've

575
00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,760
either built or are built into
Claude itself that just seem to

576
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,040
fit what I'm doing a little bit
better than what ChatGPT could

577
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,600
offer.
So I did that.

578
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,719
I, I just cancelled or I haven't
cancelled it yet.

579
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,080
It's about to be cancelled.
ChatGPT Pro got clawed and I

580
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,239
started playing around with
these coding tools and for

581
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,760
building this app specifically,
what I did was I set up a clawed

582
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,320
project.
So if you use ChatGPT, you're

583
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,280
familiar with projects
essentially like a, a folder for

584
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,400
all of these conversations that
you have on a specific task or

585
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,520
project.
You can give it instructions,

586
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,000
you can feed it files and then
ChatGPT kind of knows what's

587
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,239
going on with that specific
project and every conversation

588
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,520
you have it, it has that
information to go off of.

589
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,320
So I, I started a project like
that in Claude and said, hey,

590
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,480
this is what I want to build.
This is the app like help me

591
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,360
plan it out.
Like first we're going to

592
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,760
research what, what all should
this app include?

593
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,800
How is it going to look?
How are we going to build it?

594
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,800
What are the tools that we need
to build it?

595
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,160
All of this and the research
side of Claude completely blew

596
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,560
me away.
I get spent probably close to an

597
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,840
hour researching all this stuff
and spit out like an 18 page

598
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,720
report and it analyzed I think
close to 500 or over 500

599
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:25,400
different sources to determine
what is the best route for us to

600
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,760
go for this project.
And it was in depth.

601
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Like I have not seen anything
like that come out of Chat GPTI

602
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200
was completely blown away.
So that that was kind of like

603
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,440
the first step of building this
is the research side of things

604
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,680
and using AI to help with that
research because I like it.

605
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,520
You said I am not a coder.
I don't know what I'm doing.

606
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,800
I don't know what tools that I
need.

607
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,960
How do I connect to database?
Front end, back end like all of

608
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,680
this stuff.
I have an idea but I don't know

609
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,920
how to do any of it.
So I got it to help guide me

610
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,160
through that process.
Austin in the chat Nick says

611
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,240
Claude is amazing.
Now it has Claude skills quote

612
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,440
UN quote, which are like temp
what is this template

613
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:12,680
templatized dynamic prompts.
So it nearly is powerful but

614
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600
lightweight compared to AP IS or
MCPI.

615
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Don't know what MCP is.
MCP is what is it model context

616
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,440
protocol, I think is what it
stands for.

617
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,600
And we've talked about it a
little bit.

618
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,160
I brought it up a few times in
here, but essentially like MCP

619
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,160
allows AI to essentially connect
to your apps and take action,

620
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,880
right?
Right, so I remember.

621
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,840
Notion has an MCP server and it
has different tasks like you

622
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,840
could talk to ChatGPT or talk to
Claude and say, hey, go add a

623
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,640
task to my Notion board and call
it this and set a due date for

624
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,840
this.
And then it will actually go

625
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,840
into Notion and do those things
for you so that you're not

626
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,840
having to keep switching between
apps And the skills.

627
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,480
I, I haven't dug deep into them.
I haven't built any skills

628
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,400
myself, but they do seem really
powerful.

629
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,640
It's almost like feeding a like
clawed a prompt in the back end

630
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680
that it always has available.
And when you say, hey, I want

631
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,480
you to do this specific thing,
it has instructions to do that

632
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,200
specific thing already preloaded
and ready to go.

633
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,320
But it's, I don't know, I've
been very impressed with Claude

634
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,080
I.
It's going to be very hard to

635
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,440
get me away from that and back
into ChatGPT.

636
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,920
So you don't miss anything about
ChatGPT?

637
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,320
I've been thinking about that to
myself because the my month

638
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,280
hasn't ended on ChatGPT yet.
Like am I going to miss it?

639
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,920
And I really haven't gone to
ChatGPT yet since I've got

640
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,720
Claude Pro, I haven't gone into
it at all.

641
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000
The only, the only hindrance,
and I know we're kind of

642
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,000
steering away from the how it
got built part of the

643
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,320
conversation, but the only
hindrance that I don't care for

644
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,120
with Claude is that the usage
limits are a lot stricter than

645
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000
ChatGPT, especially when I've
been getting into like the

646
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,400
coding tasks and things like
that.

647
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Like I usually hit my limit
within the time window and I

648
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,840
think it's like every five hours
your usage limit resets.

649
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,760
But then there's like a a weekly
usage limit as well.

650
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,800
And I understand, I think it's
smart how they did it, but it's

651
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,360
kind of a hindrance at times
with Claude.

652
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,000
What I think is kind of
interesting, like we all use

653
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,240
ChatGPT where you're having a
conversation with it.

654
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,800
Like the conversation is going
on for a long time and then it

655
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,600
just like stops knowing what
you're doing and it just like

656
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,480
you almost have to like retrain
it again.

657
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,360
Claude is built to kind of
prevent that, where each

658
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,840
conversation can only go on for
so long because it understands

659
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600
like, hey, if this conversation
goes on any longer, I'm not

660
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,920
going to know what the Hell's
going on.

661
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,440
So it's like, you need to start
a new chat before we can

662
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,360
continue this.
Because I'm, I'm losing it.

663
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,000
I'm losing my contacts here.
So it it makes sense to have it

664
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,400
it just it can get in the way
sometimes, especially doing

665
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,440
things like this where I'm
having to write code for me.

666
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,280
So OK, so you mainly use clawed,
Any other tools or anything that

667
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,880
you've used to build this?
I think it's cool to hear just

668
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,160
because again, I know a lot of
us in here are not coders and

669
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,880
don't know where to start, but
probably have had an idea.

670
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,640
Oh, an app would be great for
this.

671
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,600
I wish I could make it and not
really know how to do that.

672
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,120
That's why I'm asking these
questions.

673
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,400
So any other tools that you're
using with it?

674
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,400
So I was using Cursor Cursor AI,
which is a coding tool.

675
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,160
So you download it, it's like a
code editor and it's got a chat

676
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920
AI chat bot built into it.
So you can just tell it like,

677
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,760
hey, add this code to my app and
it'll just go do it.

678
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,920
But my laptop crapped out on me,
so I can't use it.

679
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,400
I'm I built all of this that I
have right now using my tablet

680
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,320
and it's just a a little code
editing app.

681
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,120
And what's cool with clod is
they have clod, but then they

682
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:01,000
have clod code in clod code can
be installed into your code

683
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,960
editor.
So when I pull up my code editor

684
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,480
on my tablet, I just type clod
in there and it's essentially

685
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,200
like a clod chat like dedicated
to coding specific.

686
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,440
And I can just say, Hey, clod,
this is what I want you to add

687
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,320
into the app next.
And it'll go and have access to

688
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,400
all of my apps files like all of
the different pages and

689
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,480
everything that's like makes the
app.

690
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,520
Function and it can go in there
and it'll sift through all of

691
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,440
the files figure out where it
needs to add code like, OK, I

692
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,680
need to add it to this page
because this is going to be on

693
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,960
the front and needs to be shown
and then I need to add to the

694
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,000
back end piece of it here.
Like it does all of that just by

695
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,040
having a conversation with it.
So I I've literally built this

696
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,160
thing by just talking to it and
saying, hey, I like this, but I

697
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,000
would like you to add this as
well.

698
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,040
OK, that's broken.
This is what's happening.

699
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,440
These are the errors I'm
getting.

700
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Go fix it.
And it just goes in and does it.

701
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,000
And some of the stuff it was
like trial and error kind of

702
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,040
beat my head against the wall
like error after error after

703
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,240
error.
But eventually it figures it

704
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:03,440
out.
And at this point, like the app

705
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
is fully functional.
It is a project management app

706
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,040
at this point.
You have to sign in with Google

707
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,480
or your e-mail and you're off to
the races.

708
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,680
Like it's, it's insane and all
of that.

709
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,360
Like the core functionality of
this thing like you mentioned at

710
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,440
the beginning, I did this in
like a day or two which I think

711
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,200
is just mind blowing to me
because I feel like an app like

712
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,440
this would probably take weeks
if not months.

713
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Sounds like it.
Of like legit skill to do it.

714
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,920
Wow.
So Nick, you mentioned earlier

715
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,760
beta testers that you're looking
for beta testers because they're

716
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,680
going to know eventually they'll
find out the name being users of

717
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,800
it.
So how do how does somebody get

718
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,320
involved in that?
Yeah.

719
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,520
So I am going to be opening it
up today and bringing on a

720
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,520
couple people for a closed beta
of this app and then I'm going

721
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,120
to slowly be adding more people
into it.

722
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,320
So if you are interested in
testing this app out for me, and

723
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,920
I'm going to tell you right now,
it's not perfect.

724
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,280
There's going to be bugs,
there's going to be issues, and

725
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,200
that's just kind of part of this
whole process.

726
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,560
I'm sharing all of this stuff as
it's happening because I want

727
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,720
people to see the process.
So it's not going to be perfect,

728
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,320
but it does work.
And if you want to be a part of

729
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,560
it, just shoot me a message,
reach out, say hey, I'd love to

730
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,360
be a part of this beta.
I'd love to test the app and

731
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,760
I'll add you to the list and
I'll just slowly start bringing

732
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000
in more people.
So what would you say

733
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,040
nick@nextgenpodcaster.com best
way to do it?

734
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Yeah, yeah.
Shoot me an e-mail.

735
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,840
That's fine.
Either shoot me an e-mail at

736
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,960
that e-mail
nick@nextgenpodcaster.com or if

737
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,800
you follow me on Instagram at
953, just shoot me a message

738
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,760
over on Instagram and I'll get
you added.

739
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,000
Part of this like the closed
slow rollout for full

740
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,640
transparency is because I don't
know how much it is going to

741
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,440
cost to run this app.
Every time people go into the

742
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,880
app, every time they make
changes, they add tasks, do all

743
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,200
that stuff that is technically
usage for the database that I'm

744
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,040
building on.
And I have no idea what that

745
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,960
looks like as far as I cost, I'm
on like a free account right

746
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,480
now.
I don't know, like is five

747
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,240
people going to pushed into like
paid piece of this thing that I

748
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,680
have to start paying now to keep
this thing hosted or is it like

749
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,200
1000 people?
I have no idea.

750
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,960
So I'm slowly introducing people
into it and I get a feel for

751
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,200
one, how much are people
actually using it?

752
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,360
And two, what is the cost going
to be to actually run this app

753
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,840
long term?
OK, so we will be helping Nick

754
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,280
in many ways as bet beta tester.
So if you want to be a beta

755
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,440
tester, please reach out to
nick.nick@nextgenpodcaster.com.

756
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,640
Probably the easiest way to do
it to reach out to him if you're

757
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,240
interested.
And if you don't get on the

758
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,400
first round, I'm he said it
himself.

759
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,560
We'll, we'll have more rounds to
to join in on, so put your name

760
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,960
in now and, and he'll reach out
when there's availability.

761
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,800
Nick, very cool.
Congratulations on this.

762
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,880
Excited for you.
Yeah, thank you.

763
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Thanks for letting me talk about
it.

764
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,960
You know, some people are
probably like more AI stuff.

765
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Yeah, I appreciate it.
If you guys have questions about

766
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,840
like the app side of things or
building or Claude or any of

767
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,720
that stuff like feel free to
reach out as well.

768
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:13,360
I'm more than happy to to share
and talk more about it.

769
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,920
Cool, awesome.
All right, thank you, Nick.

770
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,160
And I want to remind everybody
that tomorrow here in the US is

771
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,080
veteran's day, federal holidays,
national holidays.

772
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,200
So we are going to go dark on
Tuesday.

773
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,400
We try to honor the national
holidays here in the US so we

774
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,000
will not be back, but we will be
back Wednesday, 7:00 AM Eastern

775
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,880
live.
And of course, a couple hours

776
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,080
after we go live on your
favorite podcast platform, we

777
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,840
will be digging into all the
headlines around the world of

778
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,760
podcast podcasting, stuff that
will really affect you as a

779
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,240
podcaster.
Also side note, we've got some

780
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:51,760
guests coming up as well to join
us.

781
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,280
One's going to be Kendall from
Riverside.

782
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,560
If you know Kendall, if you are
somebody on Riverside, you

783
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,080
probably know who Kendall is.
She's their community manager

784
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,840
there.
She's got a new, a big, big

785
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,720
update coming from Riverside
that I'm not even allowed to say

786
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,640
yet, but she reached out to me
just this morning saying, hey,

787
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,760
I, I'd be happy to come talk
about this on the podcasting

788
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,440
morning chat and I think it
would be awesome.

789
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,440
So we're going to have her come
join us and maybe you'll be one

790
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,080
of the first to know about this
new feature officially.

791
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,040
And then also we're going to
have somebody who Dr. connected

792
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,760
me with who is APR expert so
that we can dig into the PR side

793
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,920
of podcasting to see how we can
utilize it to help us with

794
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,760
discoverability, growth,
etcetera.

795
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,480
I, I had a fascinating
conversation with her last week

796
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,240
and looking forward to bringing
her to you next Monday.

797
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,920
So that's coming up as well.
And of course, finally,

798
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Thursday, this Thursday, we're
doing podcast evaluations.

799
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,360
I told you all about it at the
top of the show.

800
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,000
So I don't, I won't dig into it
again now, but go and check out

801
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,760
that show.
You can click the link in the

802
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,960
show notes if you want to follow
along on Thursday.

803
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,400
And if not, no worries, we'll we
got you covered.

804
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,240
You can follow along nicely even
if you don't listen.

805
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,280
So until Wednesday, make it a
great day everybody.

806
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:17,720
Take care.