383 - Meet The Voices in Our Community of Creators

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Good morning podcasting morning
Chat.

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Today is Tuesday, October 7th,
2025 and today we're pulling

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back the curtain on us.
Get to know the voices behind

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the mic as our Co host swap
stories, share their journeys

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and reveal what keeps their
podcasting fire lit.

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again, podcasting,

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Morning Chat.
Thanks so much for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronick, and
currently on stage with me we

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have producer Ashley Feller,
Nick Naulback, Dr. Faye and Sid

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Meadows.
Before we get into everything

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this morning.
Oh, and good morning to Roy

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Field, who's just joined us in
the audience.

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Before we dive in, did want to
share with you.

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I've been playing around.
Nick knows this well, I've been

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playing around with Sora 2.
I got access to it.

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I got an invite code from my
friend Gil, some of you know,

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from Empowered Podcasting, our
conference, and also he's joined

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us here a few times as well.
He get got me a a code to get in

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and I've just been playing
around with it right now trying

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to get to know it a little bit.
And really it's no different

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than prompting ChatGPT, but I'm
playing around with it.

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I've done a few things I've
shared online if you want to see

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it, mostly podcasting toys.
I did an 80s commercial of a

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podcasting kit and that one I
thought went really well.

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I thought it looked pretty
realistic.

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And then I did one on podcasting
action figures, the first one

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being Joe Podcaster and it was
Joe Rogan and I thought it was

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great.
Although they're not getting the

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the traction I thought they
might on social media.

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But so be it.
I enjoyed making the content.

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Dr. Did you want to say
something?

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That was that was amazing.
The resemblance to Rogan was

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just amazing.
So I'm going to give everyone a

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tip.
Thank you, Dr. I'm going to give

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you a tip.
If you are playing with Sora,

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one of the things that that I
don't like about it, it's

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somewhat limiting.
They were boasting open AI was

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they were boasting about the
fact that really you could

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pretty much create anything you
wanted, even if it was something

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copywritten until the people
that own the rights opt out.

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So I thought for sure this would
be for a little while anyway,

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we'd be able to kind of create
really like I said, whatever we

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want and not the case anymore.
I mean, it was less less than a

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week since that that new Sora 2
came out and already I noticed I

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was having trouble and somebody
commented on my Joe Rogan action

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figure and said I've been I
can't get it to make Joe Rogan

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to save those to save my life.
And here's the trick.

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It's kind of meta, and I don't
mean Facebook.

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So what I do and Nick this,
you'll remember this from our

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next Gen. podcaster days when we
were teaching podcasters how to

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do this.
If ChatGPT or an AI model tells

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you they can't make something
because of copyright issues,

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what I do is I describe what I
want them to make without saying

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what it is.
In other words, with Joe Rogan,

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I fed Chat GPTA picture of Joe
Rogan, and I said, describe this

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person.
I don't even think I hinted that

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it was Joe Rogan.
I just said, describe this

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person as if you were describing
him to an artist who was going

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to make some sort of recreation
of this person 'cause I didn't

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want to get too specific about
painting versus drawing, 'cause

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I thought it might cater to that
specifically.

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And sure enough, it gave me all
the physical traits of Joe

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Rogan.
And then what I did was I went,

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oh, then what I did is I told it
to then make it an action

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figure.
Make the Joe Rogan image that

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I've given you, the description
I've given you, turn it into an

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action figure.
And it did.

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And it looked a lot like Joe
Rogan.

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Then I took that image and I
uploaded it to Sora of the image

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of the action figure.
And I said, make a commercial, a

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toy commercial about this fake
action figure.

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And that's all it took.
I mean, I know this sounds like

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a bunch of steps, but if you
really want it to do something

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that it's telling you it can't,
you just got to go back and have

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it describe the thing or the
person without using the name.

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And it seems to work almost
every time.

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So there you go.
There's a little tip for you,

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Nick.
Have you started playing with it

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at all?
Suratu, I know I I got you

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access to it.
I started playing with it a

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little bit yesterday and my
first prompt went through

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because I was pretty vague and I
just wanted to see what I came

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up with.
And then I tried to get a little

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bit more creative and fun with
it and then I got hit with the

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this is against our guidelines.
Yeah, I tweaked the prompt and

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then it was like, this is
against our guidelines and I

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tweaked it again, This is
against our guidelines.

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And then I was like, I'm
probably going to get banned,

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but I just gave it a rest for a
little bit and I'll probably

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play with it again today.
But I I didn't want to press my

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luck.
I've gotten some of those and I

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shared one with you this morning
that I did of me dunking a

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basketball in an empty arena as
if I'm practicing my dunking and

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I wanted it.
I wanted to wear the Michael

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Jordan outfit 23 with the whole
uniform, the Chicago Bulls

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thing.
And I first tried it and it said

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Nope, no can do violation.
So I then again had ChatGPT

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describe the uniform without
mentioning Chicago Bulls,

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without mentioning Michael
Jordan, and that when I fed Sora

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that description, it made me the
Chicago Bulls uniform.

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I mean, it even said Bulls on
the uniform.

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I didn't tell it to say that.
I think it just kind of

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intuitively picked it up.
I wanted to ask you about that

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because I was listening to it
through my car speaker, so I

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didn't have like super clear
audio, but I mean, it sounded

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pretty close to your voice and I
can't for Android users, since

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we don't have the Sora app yet,
we actually can't clone

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ourselves.
Like you can't do it on the

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desktop app, on the phone app.
So what did you actually have to

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do to clone yourself?
I know we we speculated on it

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the other day when we were
talking about Sora too, but what

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was that process to actually get
the clone of yourself?

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It's so easy, Nick.
It's, it's a little scary.

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So if you remember what we had
heard and talked about last

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week, I think it was when we
announced Surah 2 that it was

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available, All you have to do is
read 3 numbers.

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They were all 2 digit numbers.
So it was like 335289 or

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something like that.
You just have to say 3 numbers

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looking straight ahead at the
camera and then you had to look

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to the left and then it
instructs you to look up and

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that's it.
That was all it needed to

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recreate me and recreate my
voice.

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And you're right, I thought it
sounded pretty spot on.

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That is mind blowing, especially
where we were like I'll say a

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couple months ago with Hagen.
I was looking into creating the

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clone of myself and it was like
you have to be standing like

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full body of yourself with a
very clear backdrop of the green

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screen type of thing if you have
it.

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And it was like you should be
talking at the camera for

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10/20/30 minutes and with that
information it can generate your

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AI clone.
Now saying 3 words essentially

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is generating your clone.
That's.

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Yeah, yeah, I do appreciate
that.

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Hey, Jen asks to do the full
body shot because it's basically

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really trying to capture every,
everything about you from head

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to toe, whereas this one, it's
basically from my shoulders up.

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So yeah, that that's a cool
feature, but way too many other

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things you have to do this makes
it scary simple.

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And I do mean scary simple.
So yeah, I just thought I'd

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share this because as content
creators, I think there's

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probably some curiosity out
there that you you may have come

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across it on your feeds, seeing
all this AI generated content

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that looks really damn real.
It's pretty crazy and I just

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suggest if you want, if you have
it, access to it or maybe to a

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similar AI app, just have fun
with it.

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Just play with it to get to know
it really, 'cause I found myself

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again getting a little
intimidated to get started with

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it.
I was looking at all the IT.

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It you can go through on the
app, you can actually scroll and

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see other people's content much
like you would on TikTok.

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You can just swipe and scroll
and like and comment and all the

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things.
And I was seeing all of that and

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I was starting to freeze like
what can I create?

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What can I do?
But then finally just something

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came to mind.
I just got a random idea and

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just started playing around with
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So I encourage you, if it's of
interest to you, just play with

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it.
See, see what you can come up

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with.
Don't put any pressure on

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yourself, But I will say the
thing that I will absolutely use

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this for is B roll for my short
form content, especially when

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I'm trying to keep people
engaged on my tik Toks and

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reels.
I'm going to absolutely use some

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of that in my content.
One more question for you, I

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didn't see it yesterday when I
was playing around with it, but

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did it specify in the app how
many videos or credits or

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anything like that you get per
day month?

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Not at all.
Yeah, I, I don't know of any

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limit.
Of course, I haven't really

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tested it or pushed it the
boundaries.

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I've probably done a handful of
videos so far.

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But yeah, I, it does not say you
have these many credits left or

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anything like that.
So I say create freely until we

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hear otherwise.
So today's topic really is all

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about the people you see here on
this stage and if you have

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questions for them, I don't want
to be the only one asking

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questions to our team.
So if you have any questions

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that pop up throughout the
morning and you're listening

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live, come up on stage and join
us.

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And this will lead into
something more down the road.

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Nick actually suggested this
when I let our team know we I

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was going to be interviewing our
team today.

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Nick was saying it would
probably be a good idea for us

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to do some one-on-one interviews
to really get to know our hosts

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and also their philosophies,
their podcasting tips, all the

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things about them.
And we can have an ongoing

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series with one on ones with me
and our different team members.

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So more to come on that.
But this is going to be a group

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thing.
And let's start with an

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icebreaker.
If your younger self could see

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you creating now, what would
they say to you about it?

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This one I love because I think
my younger self, I won't take

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the whole answer up first.
I'll I want to hear from others,

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but I will just say I think my
younger self would be so

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thrilled and so proud to know
that I was sitting right here.

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I know I'm hijacking the answer
already that I'm sitting right

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here, right now with a
professional microphone in front

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of me, with a camera pointing at
me and with a team of people all

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talking about something that I'm
really passionate about and

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having fun doing.
So my younger self would be over

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the moon because my younger self
was all about, I'll just use a,

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a reference.
It all about being on stage.

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And that stage could mean a
variety of different things.

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But yes.
And and then I steered away from

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that for a long time and came
back to it with podcasting 20

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some years ago.
All right, I saw Dr. wanted to

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chime in.
Dr. go for it.

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If your younger self could see
you creating now, what would

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they say?
Well, I'm going to put a twist

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on that because when I talk to
people that I have gone to

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school with high school, middle
school, things like that, and I

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tell them what I do, they
usually nod their head and have

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a big smile on their face and
say something like, yeah, that

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tracks.
Or yeah, I could have guessed

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that.
Or Yep, that that fits.

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Or I knew that it was something
like that in in that genre.

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So I, I knew from a young age
I'd be doing something creative.

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And all through high school I
was a performer and it was

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pretty evident to the high
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So that all kind of fits in.
DRI think that some of my

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friends would say the same
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They would or at least do react
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where they would just kind of
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see that.
I get it.

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Who else?
Or else I'm going to just have

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to go down the line if I don't
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All right, then I'm coming.
Let's go to Jonathan.

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Jonathan, good morning.
What would your younger self say

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if they could see you creating
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Good morning.
My younger self would be like

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who the hell is that?
Why is that?

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Because I was never, ever.
And I tell the story of my

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business all the time.
I was never, ever in front of

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the camera.
I was not the person that would

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be talking.
I was always behind the camera,

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always, you know, creating in a
different way.

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But not in front of the camera
and not yeah, it wasn't until

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about 6 years ago I actually
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camera.
I love that.

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So what did get you in front of
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Jonathan?
Why don't you share?

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And I know this may be a
question that you've answered in

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the past, and it's been a long
time since we've all gotten to

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know each other again and for
our audience, especially new

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people.
So yeah, please share what got

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you in front of the camera.
What got me in front of the

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camera was the fact that he
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camera.
In business.

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It started to become a necessary
evil is how I viewed it, and I

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had to start to show up in front
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I did not do it well.
There was a ten, well it turned

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out to be 100 video challenge,
but it was marketed as a 10

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video challenge.
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challenge and I had to do 100
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those.
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comfortable actually showing up
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could be done and that I wasn't
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there.
That challenge is what changed

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my business because before that
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and definitely started to feel
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Interesting.
Thank you, Jonathan.

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And yeah, I mean, I think I
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sense that, you know, you felt
like it was a necessary evil.

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Now I'm sure we could argue it
isn't necessarily something you

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have to do in all of business,
but I certainly know in a lot of

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areas of business getting on
camera can only help what you're

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trying to promote, help you
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But certainly not a not
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But I get what where you're
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Jonathan, thank you for
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And Sid, I'm curious about you,
if your younger self could see

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you creating now, see you
podcasting now specifically,

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what do you think your younger
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So I think my younger self would
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It's about time that you use
your voice for good.

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It's about time that you come
out then, you know, share all

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the thoughts you share privately
with people and, you know, help

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help them in a public way rather
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So I think that's what my
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It's about time.
Sid, do you think your younger

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self would be surprised that you
were doing it?

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I know it's about time kind of
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talk about Jonathan for a
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Like is that something similar
where you'd be like you're

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younger self was like, what what
are you doing?

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You're actually on camera,
You're actually doing a podcast.

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Would it be surprised?
So when I was a younger, I was

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thinking about this yesterday.
Actually, when I was younger,

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like in elementary school and
high school, we lived in the

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country.
I mean, I grew up in, I grew up

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in Mississippi and everything's
in the country and I was a

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member of the 4H club.
My mom actually started a 4H

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club and I did a ton of public
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That was one of the core things
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public speaking.
And then, you know, I get out of

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high school and I go off to
college and I'm not really doing

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it, though my degree is in
broadcasting and journalism and

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mass communications with my
degrees in and I never ever

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actually thought I would use it.
And until, you know, I started

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my business and you have to
remember too, I was in my 50s

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when I started my business and I
was 53 when I started my

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podcast.
So when I actually grabbed the

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microphone and said, OK, let's
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And you know, so many of you
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that.
So I mean, I started certainly

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later in life and, you know, in
doing that and putting myself

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out there.
And I remember somebody said to

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me one day too long after I
started my business that I

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should make videos and put
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I'm just at that point in time,
it was at Facebook and I

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remember to my first video, it
was just like God awful and

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holding the camera way up high.
I had a T-shirt on and my hand

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was shaking.
So the camera was shaking,

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right.
So it just sometimes takes a

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while to put yourself out there.
That's why I say it's about

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time, because I was a late
starter, if you will, as it

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relates to being in the content
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Love that.
Thank you, Sid.

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Thank you for digging into that.
And weird that you were just

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thinking about all that too.
Thank you for sharing that, Sid.

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And I want to go to Rich because
as I said, to kick things off on

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this particular part of the
conversation, we have some new

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people here.
Unfortunately, we don't have

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feel better here today, but
we'll, we'll do a one-on-one

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with him for sure.
And of course, we'll get to know

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him as the days go on as well.
But Rich, I'm going to wrap up

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this question with you.
So what would your younger self

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say to you if they could see you
creating now?

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Hey, good morning.
My younger self very much like

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Dr. It was like a natural
progression.

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So I think I would totally get
it.

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I started always doing things in
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Boy Scouts and stuff like that.
Kind of like what Sid was

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explaining what his 4H club.
And then when I was doing when I

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was in college, I did college
radio all four years and then

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some.
I continued with it and then I

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was always very involved with
like music and.

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Doing music related projects and
things like that.

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So when I got onto social media
it was just like, oh, you can

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create content, OK, that's
awesome and this is what we have

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to do then.
So it was kind of like a very

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natural progression for me.
All life events leading up to

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it, where it was sort of just,
yeah, just natural, I would say.

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Yeah, natural progression.
Yep, that makes sense.

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Cool.
OK, cool.

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I love that we have it seems
like we have all every end of

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the spectrum here.
And I didn't forget Ashley.

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So I'm going to come to you,
producer.

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Ashley, good morning to you.
Yeah.

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What would your younger self say
about you as a creator now?

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I think she would say thank you
for staying the course and

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staying true to yourself and
very close to the original life

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projection.
I remember being a little kid

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and they ask you in school, I'm
sure everybody's done this, what

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do you want to be when you grow
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And they ask you to write a
little paragraph and draw a

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picture.
And I remember saying that I

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wanted to be a news anchor and
also a musician.

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So I would say this is pretty
close.

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So I think my younger self would
say thank you for staying the

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course.
I love that.

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Thank you, Ashley.
Yeah, I my guess was that your

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younger self would say something
along those lines.

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Just knowing you as a as a
musician.

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I imagine most musicians, and
this is just my perspective, I

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imagine most musicians think
about creating music and

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performing that music or putting
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world.
So I podcasting certainly feels

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like a natural progression for a
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Thank you, Ashley for sharing.
And since we have somebody from

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the audience joining us now,
Janae, good morning.

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Did you want to answer this
question as well?

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Go for it.
And if anybody else from the

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audience wants to come up and
share, I'm cool with keeping

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this question going as well.
Go ahead, Janae.

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Morning, everyone.
Yes, this is a very fun question

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for me because I dropped out of
theater class in college.

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I was like what I was doing in
front of camera.

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I have to be in front of people.
No, thank you.

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And even though I've been behind
camera for 30 plus years, it was

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a really big change.
And then it all progressed over

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time and I got comfortable with
my own voice, with my own

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conversation with other people.
And so my younger self would

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probably say, wow, that is a
change.

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You've come out to be somebody
that I didn't think was

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possible, which is really funny
because when I took a test like

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a long time ago, it said that
I'm a, that I'm a communicator

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and I'm like, no, I'm not.
I'm an introvert.

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I don't talk.
I'll talk to people.

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So it would be a pretty
interesting talking to that

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young me now.
Thanks.

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Very interesting, Janae.
Say that last thing that you

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just said again, because I had a
thought and then it just escaped

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me.
The younger me would say that's

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a very interesting route that
you've taken and you know, be be

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really weird, like to see that
art, like how did this even

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happen?
Yeah, it's so funny how we

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change as we get older
sometimes.

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And it's also funny to hear,
like with some people, it this

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was just rooted in us.
We almost, even though we didn't

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know what maybe what podcasting
was when we were kids, there was

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just something instinctively
brewing inside us that we knew

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we were going to somehow put
ourselves out there, share a

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message with the world.
Right it.

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It's really cool to hear.
OK, thank you, Janae.

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I'm going to keep things going
in this conversation here.

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So let's talk a little bit about
your early days of podcasting

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for a second.
What's something that you've

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learned since you started
podcasting that you wish you

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knew earlier?
You know, think about those days

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when you were first getting
ready to press record and put

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out your first podcast
recording.

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What didn't you know then that
you wish you knew right now?

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Make sure my equipment was
plugged in.

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Is that so?
That's a thing, Jonathan.

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You actually didn't have any
plugged in and you recorded an

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episode.
Mine was mostly plugged in, but

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Mimi's was definitely not.
Yeah, so.

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Perhaps a checklist would have
been a good thing to know about

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ahead of time.
I love that.

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And yeah, yeah.
Sid, did you have something you

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wanted to share too?
So a long time ago, somebody

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said something to me I was just
blown away by, she said, you

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know, Sid done is better than
perfect.

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And I think as podcasters,
sometimes we strive for

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perfection and it doesn't have
to be perfect.

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I think the more raw and real
that it can be, the more you

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will identify with your
audience.

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That's definitely something that
I learned.

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Like it?
Yeah, you can script it, but you

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don't have to like read the big,
be robotic and read the script,

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right?
People want to see the real you.

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And so perfection is is going to
be the enemy of success in this

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case, I believe.
Oh, I like that a lot.

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And yeah, I've heard that one
before and it really hits home

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when you stop and and think
about that message.

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Yeah, thank you, Sid.
I think that's a that's an

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important one to hold on to.
And I see we've got some other

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people that have joined us and
including Co host Matt Bliss.

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I'm going to go to Matt 1st and
then we're going to keep going

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down the line.
Matt, what about you?

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What's one part of podcasting?
What?

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I'm sorry, what's something that
you've learned since you started

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podcasting that you wish you
knew earlier?

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Good morning.
Good morning everyone.

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00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,920
I have been reflecting on this a
little bit, been on a bit of a

453
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,840
retrospective, trying to think
about what podcasters should and

454
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,040
shouldn't think about themselves
over the last few weeks.

455
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,520
So it's apartment that you asked
this.

456
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960
One of the biggest things I
think is that people have to

457
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,680
stop thinking.
And I would have liked to tell

458
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,320
myself to not to think that the
first podcast you do is going to

459
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320
be not perfect the same way that
Sid said it.

460
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280
But I think everybody needs a
practice podcast, being the

461
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,120
first podcast.
And that means doing a show, not

462
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:26,080
letting the perfection stop you,
but also, you know, greasing the

463
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,280
wheels a little bit and finding
where the the itchy points are

464
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,760
for what you want to do.
I think podcasting has become an

465
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:40,040
optimization point for people
because everybody is saying how

466
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,040
easy it is and tech companies
are selling products that say

467
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:49,560
just buy this and you know it.
It just becomes super easy.

468
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,160
The only thing left is for you
to step up to the microphone.

469
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,960
But invariably there, there is
not a single client podcast that

470
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,760
I've done where and even myself
where the first one has been

471
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,600
spot on, done the job, thousands
and thousands of listeners and

472
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
the host knows what they're
doing and they just keep going.

473
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,320
I think anyone who's doing it
independently at least should

474
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,440
have.
So set aside a podcast that's

475
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,160
just a silly topic or something
focused, whatever, practice it.

476
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:28,400
My first one was called the Lad
Banter podcast, was with three

477
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,640
mates or two mates and myself
and we just talked about random

478
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,560
topics and I learned so much
from that first podcast.

479
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,440
I think get the first one out
the way or first season if you

480
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,840
want to work the idea.
And maybe the short answer there

481
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,240
is accept what you'll fail at at
the start by chucking the

482
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,640
training wheels on and just
preparing yourself to learn what

483
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,920
you're going to take into the
next show.

484
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,480
And look, Janae's jumped into
the chat and said, mind blowing.

485
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,240
I'm still on my first podcast.
There's always exceptions to the

486
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,760
rule, you know, some people can
just get it locked in.

487
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,720
But yeah, practice podcast for
your first one.

488
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,200
That would be my advice to
myself.

489
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,520
Thank you, Matt.
And kind of ironic because

490
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,760
you've said something that I've
been thinking about lately in

491
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,000
the sense that, you know, I'm
feeling with my social media

492
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,080
that it's just a little stale.
The content I'm putting out, I

493
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,360
feel like it's not hitting.
And I have been thinking a lot

494
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,240
about like, well, what do I want
to do with my social media?

495
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,080
And what keeps coming back to me
when I ask that question is, is

496
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,440
to start another account and
make it whatever the heck I want

497
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,280
to make it talk about whatever I
want to talk about.

498
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Make any kind of content, not
pigeon hole myself just in the

499
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,520
podcasting content creator
space.

500
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,720
And I think the best way for me
to do that, to feel the most

501
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,600
free, is to just start a new
social media account, not try to

502
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,560
change what I'm doing already on
my social media account and just

503
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,440
start a new one that gives me
the freedom to explore and

504
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,600
experiment.
And it's so it feels similar to

505
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,160
what you're saying, but in the
podcasting space.

506
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Create that first podcast.
Don't put the pressure on

507
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,160
yourself that it has to be a
certain way, and instead put the

508
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,280
pressure on yourself to find
your way.

509
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,920
Thank you, Matt, I appreciate
that.

510
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Janae, did you want to comment
on that?

511
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,600
I do because you know, social
media is so much though about

512
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,600
being social and not a lot about
teaching other people.

513
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080
So just be yourself and the
social media, like who is it

514
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,640
for?
Is it for you?

515
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Is it for people that you're
trying to enroll into something

516
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600
that you're doing something
you're putting together, right?

517
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Who is the social media for?
So think about those things

518
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,160
rather than, you know, gaining
more followership because when

519
00:29:54,160 --> 00:30:01,160
you dial into who you really are
and show off that side of you on

520
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,400
social, you will find the people
just like you found all the

521
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,880
people over here.
Yeah, I'm with you there.

522
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,080
Thank you, Janae.
Great point.

523
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,520
And I see Matt wanted to chime
in as well.

524
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440
Go ahead, Matt.
I did, but I saw Jonathan's

525
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,520
little spicy pepper go up there.
I might step aside and let the.

526
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,280
Exit jump in.
And for those of you listening

527
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,560
at home, not live here, the
spicy pepper that Matt's

528
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,640
referring to.
That's the little emoji we flash

529
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,360
when we want to add to the
conversation.

530
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,920
So let's go to Jonathan and his
spicy pepper.

531
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Good, good morning.
My spicy pepper wanted to say

532
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,800
that, you know, I have a a
really close friend, Brittany,

533
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,800
who runs a conference actually
in in Texas.

534
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,480
And she does what I do.
She helps people with social

535
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,160
media, but what she posts on her
on her social media is videos of

536
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,360
her dancing on her treadmill and
singing songs from back when we

537
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,120
were kids.
And she has established probably

538
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,320
one of the most productive and
interesting businesses in Texas.

539
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,160
And she's helping the Speakfest
people put on their conference.

540
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,200
She doesn't post anything about
social media.

541
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,760
She doesn't teach anybody about
social media.

542
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,360
She actually just posts her
treadmill dancing videos and,

543
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,760
you know, videos of her lip
syncing to songs she remembers.

544
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,360
So you can create your own
business, you know, profile out

545
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,760
of anything.
It's about building that

546
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,360
connection with your audience.
That's really an interesting

547
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,320
tip.
Thank you, Jonathan.

548
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,560
It Yeah, that it makes sense.
I often think about that.

549
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,200
I see some of these creators out
there just making whatever the

550
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,200
heck they want to create, and
they're getting tons of

551
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,000
followers and more importantly,
tons of business as well.

552
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,680
Actually, one person that I know
that's doing really well, who

553
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,800
helps podcasters does similar to
what I do.

554
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,840
His name is Dylan Schmidt, and
he lately has been making all

555
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,280
sorts of content about AI and
really how it's affecting

556
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,720
society positively and
negatively.

557
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,880
And his and he made that shift
recently and he's killing it

558
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,840
right now.
And it's because in some ways

559
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520
people see what he's doing and
they're saying, I want to do

560
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600
that.
I want to know how I can do

561
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,480
that.
And so they'll reach out to him

562
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,480
and ask him, hey, how'd you do
that?

563
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,440
And it opens up the door to
conversation and potentially new

564
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,720
business.
Sid, did you want to chime in?

565
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,760
And then we're going to check in
with Roy Field, who's joined us

566
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,520
on stage.
I do real quickly.

567
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,960
So Mark, you as in you are
rarely in your social media

568
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,600
content.
What's in your social media

569
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,840
content is your videos, your
comic characters and things of

570
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,120
that nature.
Mark, to Janae's point, Mark is

571
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600
rarely in your social media
contents.

572
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,440
I think if you lean into like
what Jonathan talked about and

573
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,440
put more Mark into your social
media content, you might see

574
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,880
some of the growth that you're
looking for.

575
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,840
I appreciate that, Sid.
I would challenge that.

576
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,200
I do think that I put myself in
a lot of my content.

577
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,080
I think like the cover images
and things like that.

578
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Yeah, those are, I usually like
to do the cartoony type things.

579
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,160
But I do, with the exception of
maybe the past week or so, I do

580
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,360
tend to put myself, it's usually
content from this very show and

581
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,360
it's me either having a
conversation with one of you or

582
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,880
it's me responding to one of
you.

583
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,920
But I feel like I do.
But I do think I'm not putting

584
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,640
enough variety of myself out
there.

585
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,520
I'm only focusing on the content
that I that I spit out from this

586
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,400
show and I'm not doing stuff
outside of that.

587
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,440
And I think that that's also
hurting me.

588
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Thank you for that, Sid.
I appreciate that.

589
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,840
Let's check in with Roy Field.
Roy Field, did you want to be

590
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,800
the last one to answer this
particular question we're asking

591
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,440
right now, which is ma'am, what
was?

592
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Oh, yeah.
What's something you've learned

593
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,520
since you started podcasting
that you wish you knew earlier?

594
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,400
I overproduced, so it's very
similar to what Sid said about.

595
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,320
Perfection being the enemy.
Of good or I feel exactly what

596
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,800
he said, but it's fundamentally
that point.

597
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,639
And I over produced until until
quite recently and.

598
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,280
I always wanted to make some
kind of audio documentary, but I

599
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,600
used too much music.
I used it too loudly in in the

600
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,400
levels, etcetera.
But fundamentally overproducing.

601
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,480
And what it did also is to take
away that level of authenticity

602
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,639
of intimacy.
What people were listening to

603
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,760
was a production as opposed to
somebody's vision, somebody's

604
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,080
voice, somebody's kind of point
of view.

605
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,960
So overproduction is is what I
did.

606
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,080
That's what I wanted to chime
in.

607
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,400
Thank you for saying that, Ray
Field, I appreciate that and I'm

608
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,120
with you there.
I think that look and the times

609
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,679
could change again, right?
But right now I think the times

610
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,040
have shifted to more to less
produced content, whether it's

611
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200
social media and in some cases
podcasting.

612
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200
And please hear me, I'm not
suggesting that people should

613
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,960
now throw away their
microphones, throw away their

614
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,600
good cameras, etcetera.
But I do believe that a lot of

615
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,200
us tend to over produce the
content we make because it goes

616
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,800
back to what Sid was saying
earlier about trying to be

617
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,520
perfect.
And I think that nowadays an

618
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,520
audience, audiences are
appreciating the more raw side

619
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,160
of things.
They don't want all of that.

620
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,760
In fact, I believe it's just,
again, there's, I have no real

621
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,760
solid research to prove it, but
I believe that audiences avoid

622
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:42,240
or get turned off from produced
and overproduced content because

623
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,200
they look at it as, uh oh, what
is this person going to sell me

624
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,040
or what, what is the, what's
this person's mission, right?

625
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,560
I think when they see raw, raw,
more raw content, I think that

626
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,760
they stop because they're more
curious.

627
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,280
They want to know what this
everyday person is going to talk

628
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,240
about or what they're digging
into.

629
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,960
I think there is something to
that Roy field.

630
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,240
And again, that's don't quote me
on that.

631
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:10,000
Don't take it as the gospel
because they're I don't have

632
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,480
solid research behind it, but
it's it's my impression spending

633
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,600
so much time interacting with
podcasting content, social media

634
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,760
content, etcetera.
Dr. Would you like to ask a

635
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,560
question to the gang?
I would thank you.

636
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,880
So what I want to know is, and
we'll go around the horn here,

637
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:37,280
what's one part of podcasting
that you absolutely love and one

638
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,760
part that still challenges you,
or in other words, that you

639
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,160
hate?
So Mark, what's what's up with

640
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,680
you?
What do I love?

641
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,800
I love about podcasting.
I love being able to connect

642
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,440
with people.
I think first and foremost,

643
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,600
that's got to be a big reason
why I do it, and it's why I do

644
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,280
this particular kind of show, is
because I liked connecting with

645
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,720
different people and getting
their insights, their opinions.

646
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,480
Even if they're not like the
same as mine, I still like

647
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,080
having conversations and doing
something like this allows me to

648
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,920
connect with so many different
types of people.

649
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:19,240
I think what I don't like about
podcasting, that's a really

650
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,760
tough question for me because I
even to be honest with you, and

651
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,440
I know I've shared this with you
all before, I enjoy editing.

652
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,320
I don't like how much time
editing can take, but I do

653
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200
actually enjoy editing.
It is like a game to me.

654
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,720
It's like putting a puzzle
together.

655
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,880
I guess what it is is that I, I
don't like producing it because

656
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,000
I just wish I could get to the
finished product and get it out

657
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,560
there.
And it does take time to craft

658
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,320
what you're doing and putting
out there.

659
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,240
Even if it's not over producing
it, there's still a lot of

660
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,120
thought and energy I believe
that I have to put into it.

661
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,400
And because I'm not the most
patient of people, I don't like

662
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,080
that part because I don't like
waiting.

663
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880
I want to just get it out there.
And that's, you know, testament

664
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,120
to what we do here in the
morning.

665
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,160
Granted, Ashley does clean up
every episode for us before we

666
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,840
put it out there as a podcast,
but for the most part, this is

667
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,840
pretty raw what we put out
there.

668
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,760
Again, that's not to knock
anything about what Ashley does,

669
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,640
because she does make this sound
even better once it's a podcast

670
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,120
and she is cleaning up certain
elements of it.

671
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,320
But overall the conversation is
natural and it's not right.

672
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:33,200
Forced.
So with me, I like the strategy

673
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,680
part.
I like the poll promotion stuff.

674
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,320
And I got to say, I really like
editing.

675
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,760
I really like editing.
That's good because my boss is

676
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,040
here, you know?
Yes, and for those that don't

677
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,320
know, Dr. is an editor on the
Ironic Media team.

678
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,440
And of course, we produce and
edit podcasts for podcasters all

679
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,000
the time.
Right.

680
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:04,800
So the thing that I don't like
about it is the fact that I have

681
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:13,320
to be so cognizant of SEO, of
what's going to grab people's

682
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,040
attention.
And sometimes that takes

683
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,960
precedent over the actual meat
of the subject.

684
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,640
You know, diving into really
good content.

685
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,480
Well, it's really good content,
but what is it about that's

686
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,840
going to get everyone's
attention?

687
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,440
That's what I got to concentrate
on.

688
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,720
No, I don't want to do that.
I just want to concentrate on

689
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,960
the really good content.
And I think too much time is

690
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,720
spent on trying to find the
right keywords and the right

691
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,840
this and the right that.
That's going to grab everyone's

692
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
attention.
So that's the part that I hate.

693
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,280
On my old show, Dr. Whenever
somebody said something that I

694
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,960
really agreed with or thought
they were spot on, I would give

695
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,800
them a Ding.
So I'm giving that to you

696
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,880
because I that would be my
answer.

697
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,640
Now that you've said it, because
I know I've thought it even

698
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,960
recently, whatever the content
is that I'm making, I catch

699
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,720
myself getting too caught up in
the strategy part in In other

700
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:18,680
words, are they going to?
You know, are they going to keep

701
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,560
listening?
Are they going to or are they

702
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,680
going to skip or keep scrolling?
Did I give a strong enough hook?

703
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,120
And oh, that's not good enough.
Maybe I need to find something

704
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,680
different.
And I get so caught up in that.

705
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,120
And and it reminds me, I saw
Dominic in an interview on

706
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,080
social media talking about that
in in the sense of he was

707
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,400
saying, I just make content that
I want to make.

708
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,160
If you don't like it, if it
doesn't keep your attention, so

709
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,720
be it.
I'm creating content for me.

710
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:52,200
And if you're on board with
that, welcome aboard, right?

711
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,600
And I think I love that too,
because it's gives us that

712
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,720
freedom.
And creativity is all about

713
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,880
freedom.
It's all about having that

714
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,920
freedom to just do what you want
to do and see where it goes.

715
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,040
And it's to me, in my opinion,
it's the people that think

716
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,360
outside the box.
Those are the ones that get the

717
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,560
most traction.
Those are the ones that have the

718
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,640
biggest potential to go viral,
even in some cases, more so than

719
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,560
following all this formulas, the
strategies to get all the

720
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,040
attention to keep people on your
content.

721
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,280
I think that the creativity wins
every time.

722
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,240
I really do.
Sid, did you want to add

723
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,640
something?
I want to say something to what

724
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Dr. just talked about.
So most of you know that I've on

725
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,400
this research initiative to
figure out what season 7 of my

726
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,800
podcast is going to be like and
how I want to change it in a

727
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,800
podcast movement.
I heard Courtney Elmer speak and

728
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,360
I don't know if any of you know
her, she has a podcast, but

729
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,120
she's got a podcast called
Insider Secrets to a Top 100

730
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Podcast in the last three
episodes that she's done Dr. are

731
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,520
all about PEO, which is podcast
search optimization, not search

732
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,240
option optimization, not SEO.
She go listen to that.

733
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:12,280
And then I bought her course for
150 bucks and I went through the

734
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:17,160
course and I spent a good part
of the weekend going through all

735
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,160
this research and doing the
things that she said about

736
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,560
Podcast STO.
And we came up with 15 new

737
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,520
keywords.
I was able to go get the

738
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,240
metadata from the 10 other shows
that are not necessarily my

739
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,760
direct competitor, but people
that are in my space and really

740
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,120
lean into how to do this so that
I show up better in search.

741
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,680
And it's fascinating.
It's called Insider Secrets to a

742
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,240
Top 100 Podcast.
If you're interested in learning

743
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,240
about podcast SEO, then you
should go listen to the last

744
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,280
three episodes from her.
Oh I love her show.

745
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,560
Yeah, I know Courtney.
I've gotten to know her a little

746
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,400
bit over time at the different
podcasting conferences and yeah,

747
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,240
she's super smart and really
knows her stuff.

748
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,360
I absolutely, I sign off on that
one.

749
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Check out her podcast as well.
Thank you for that.

750
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,600
Sid, anyone else want to answer
this question as far as what are

751
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,880
the, what do you love about
podcasting?

752
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,160
What do you hate about
podcasting?

753
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Well, I'll answer it and then
you can go to Ashley.

754
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,840
So what I love about podcasting
is talking to people.

755
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,400
I love having a conversation
with people.

756
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,560
I love getting to know people.
That's why my podcast is set up

757
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080
the way it is.
I just love talking to people.

758
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,360
What I hate is editing, which is
why I outsource it to someone

759
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,480
else.
But the part that I struggle the

760
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,880
most with is the marketing part
of it.

761
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,080
I haven't paid attention to the
marketing part of it.

762
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,480
Admittedly.
I'm not doing what I need to do

763
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,240
to help my show grow, which is
what part of this reset is all

764
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,720
about.
So that's what I struggle with

765
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,160
the most is marketing and
getting the reach that I know

766
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,600
that my show can have.
So I'm learning how to lean into

767
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,440
some of that and maybe do things
differently.

768
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:01,160
Thank you, Sid.
I'm going to keep it moving for

769
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,160
the interest of time.
Ashley, please share.

770
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,760
Yeah, so something I love about
podcasting is doing it

771
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,800
differently.
With my show.

772
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,520
I do all my interviews or most
of them outside in nature, under

773
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,160
the trees.
I've also done shows in

774
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,200
restaurants.
I've done them sitting at bars.

775
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,680
So I love doing it differently.
The thing I dislike, which is

776
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,960
such a necessary thing, it has
to be done and that's archival.

777
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,880
After I get get done doing all
this recording, I've got, you

778
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,400
know, a couple of cameras, I've
got multiple audio sources.

779
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,840
It's putting them all in the
folders and backing them up on

780
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,560
all the hard drives that I don't
love, but you got to do it.

781
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,640
Yep.
Thank you, Ashley.

782
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,160
Appreciate that one and again,
interest of time.

783
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,640
I'm going to keep things moving
and I want to go to Rich for a

784
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,440
second.
Rich, now I know you've brought

785
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,160
your podcast back recently.
You're and or you're, I know

786
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,280
you're bringing it back.
And please share what that

787
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,800
podcast is.
Again, as one of our newer cast

788
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,680
members, if listeners could take
away one thing from your work

789
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,520
behind the microphone, what
would it be?

790
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,160
What would you want them to take
away?

791
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Go for it.
Oh man, you stopped me with the

792
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,840
with the new question.
And if you have the old, if

793
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,360
you'd rather you, I guess you
can answer the old one, but I'd

794
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,240
like to hear what you'd have to
say about this one.

795
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:25,680
And again, what's your podcast
name?

796
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,320
Yes.
So I am relaunching my podcast.

797
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,080
It is 10 minute mentor with
Rich.

798
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,760
So mine is a solo podcast where
I'm just educating the audience,

799
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,760
giving them actionable tips in
like marketing communications

800
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,400
within that 10 minute span.
Remind me of the question again.

801
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,240
If your listeners could take
away one thing from from your

802
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:49,480
work on your podcast, what would
you want it to be?

803
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,600
One thing, Well, I hope they
take more than one thing away.

804
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,720
Yeah, basically, I'm sharing
what I've learned so that they

805
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:02,960
don't have to keep hitting their
head against the wall like I did

806
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:07,360
for the longest time.
That that's all I got in mind.

807
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,440
Sorry, that's OK.
I I stumped you and that's fine.

808
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,920
I know I threw out a new
question without a big set up,

809
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,080
so I get it.
And definitely check out Rich's

810
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,200
show though, because if you're
looking for quick advice on

811
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,880
marketing and communication and
you want it in 10 minutes or

812
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,480
less, Rich has got you covered
there and he's always given good

813
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,880
insights there.
So check out 10 minute mentor as

814
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,560
well.
And all right, here's here's

815
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,880
what I'm going to do.
Let's do a rapid fire round.

816
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,320
OK, so here's I'm going to start
with Sid, if you don't mind Sid,

817
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,040
I'm just going to throw out a
bunch of questions.

818
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,360
I just want your quick answers
and I'll just keep going from

819
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,680
there.
Sound good, Sid?

820
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,800
Let's go.
All right, here we go editing.

821
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,080
Love it or dread it?
Ate it.

822
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,160
Long episodes were short and
punchy.

823
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,280
Short and punchy go.
I don't do them short and

824
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,840
punchy, OK?
Coffee or tea before you hit

825
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,960
record or another beverage.
The only answer to this question

826
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,160
is coffee.
All right.

827
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,480
And as far as your podcast goes,
notes or no notes?

828
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,440
Meaning I'm taking notes or
we're putting notes out for

829
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,320
people to read like show.
Notes notes for notes.

830
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,640
As far as prep, like preparing.
No, I haven't.

831
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,120
I haven't.
I have a notes page.

832
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,960
I have a notes page as the
script on it, the intro script,

833
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,360
it has some ideas of leading
questions that I want to ask and

834
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,880
just to guide me so I make sure
I don't miss anything.

835
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,000
But yeah, notes.
One fun fact about you that we

836
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,720
may not know.
Oh.

837
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,800
My gosh, so I may have mentioned
this once before, this is a

838
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,080
silly fact, but when I was in
college I danced on ATV show

839
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,800
called The Hour of the 50s.
Wow, we didn't know that.

840
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,080
What kind of dance?
The hour of the 50s.

841
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,320
So you were just doing like 50s
dudes?

842
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,160
Dances.
It was.

843
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,400
Yeah.
Yeah, it was.

844
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,160
It was set up in a soda shop and
there were like 10 of us and we

845
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,840
danced to 50s music every
Saturday morning and most

846
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,520
Saturday mornings.
It was live, actually.

847
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,400
I would have paid you good money
if you had said interpretive

848
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,800
dancing.
Sid, are you a good dancer?

849
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,440
Now I have 3 left feet, but I
did it because the friend asked

850
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,800
me to do it and I learned how to
50s dance and all that kind of.

851
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,320
It was fun.
I had a good time doing it and

852
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,040
then the show ended.
And so anyways, yeah, it was

853
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:37,560
fun.
It was.

854
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,080
You can't find it anywhere
though.

855
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,800
I've searched all over YouTube
for it and there's not even a

856
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,320
YouTube video about it.
So I'm sure I've got or my mom's

857
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,120
in her attic somewhere.
He's got tapes of it.

858
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,560
We dressed up in 50s outfits and
you know, all that kind of

859
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,680
stuff.
T-shirts and rolled up jeans and

860
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,000
you name it.
The whole deal.

861
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,560
What I would pay for those old
tapes I would love to see.

862
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,800
That grab grateful they're not
available.

863
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,520
Let me ask you 2 personal
questions.

864
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:13,520
One beach day or mountain trip.
Beach day 100% used to be a

865
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,520
mountain but I absolutely love
the beach, especially this time

866
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,960
of year.
I'm so jealous of Ashley living

867
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,360
at the beach this time of the
year, it's that stunning.

868
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Beautiful.
I got to tell you, I might be

869
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,680
able to sway you to come here to
the Appalachian Mountains in

870
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,120
this time of year when the
leaves start changing.

871
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,560
They're just now starting to you
can tell they're the green is

872
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,240
starting to fade and the colors
are going to come shortly

873
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,920
behind.
I cannot wait for that.

874
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,680
It is magical.
And one more question for you,

875
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Sid.
Dogs or cats?

876
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,240
We have both, well we have an
adopted cat because my daughter

877
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:51,240
left hers here.
But I'm a dog person so love my

878
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:55,880
dogs, especially labs some dogs.
OK.

879
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,480
All right, cool.
All right.

880
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,880
I'm going to go to Jonathan.
Jonathan, can I do a quick speed

881
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,200
round with you?
Yep, dogs.

882
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,400
OK, that I knew.
When it comes to podcasting

883
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,360
habits and preferences, are you
a one take guy or multiple

884
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,440
takes?
1 take.

885
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,680
One take OK favorite mic or gear
brand?

886
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:23,280
I like.
Road stuff.

887
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,440
OK, yeah, Yep, I'm with you on
road stuff for sure, although my

888
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,560
favorite mic would be sure.
Let's see, who do you usually

889
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,840
bounce ideas off of?
Still, Mimi.

890
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Even on my solo podcast, Mimi.
OK so your your Co host got it.

891
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,560
And favorite way to brainstorm
new episode ideas?

892
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,360
I do my whole research for a
while and then and then create.

893
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,560
So I come up with the ideas in
the research phase.

894
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,080
OK, cool.
And then morning person or night

895
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,640
owl.
Night Owl.

896
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,920
Well then, I really appreciate
you joining us in the morning.

897
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,440
Texting or voice messages.
Texting.

898
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,280
What's one thing you never say
on the air?

899
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,320
Well, it's not curse words
because I definitely say those

900
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,240
on the air.
I would never say, well, I try

901
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:20,880
to never say authentic on the
air.

902
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,640
So you have you replaced it with
my word.

903
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,440
I haven't, but I I I might have
to.

904
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,600
You'll have to go listen to our
Empowered Podcasting recap from

905
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,200
last Tuesday if you want to
understand what that meant.

906
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,200
All right, thank you, Jonathan.
And Rich, I'm coming back to you

907
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,120
because I want to redeem, redeem
you since I caught you off

908
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,440
guard.
If you weren't podcasting,

909
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,000
creating content, talking about
marketing, what would you be

910
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,760
doing instead?
Like.

911
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Professionally.
Whatever however you want to

912
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,800
answer it.
If you weren't podcasting,

913
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,120
creating content, talking about
marketing, what would you be

914
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,960
doing instead?
I keep stumping you.

915
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,520
I know probably like, well, I
would say music promotions, but

916
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,080
that would be marketing.
Well, that's promotion, so I'll

917
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,520
I'll give it.
That's fine.

918
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,040
You can do that.
Yes, you did.

919
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,000
And Rick Rich, what's what's one
thing?

920
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,400
A hobby.
What's one thing about you that

921
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,800
maybe the rest of us don't know,
or I might know it just because

922
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,680
I know you better than most of
us here on stage.

923
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,880
But what's one thing the group
doesn't know about you?

924
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,520
Definitely like my runs.
I mean, it's that's, you know, a

925
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,480
lame answer, but I enjoy
running.

926
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,640
It's very therapeutic for me and
it allows me the opportunity to

927
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,560
both clear my head.
But also I think some of my best

928
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,840
ideas come during my run because
I just get in that zone.

929
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,560
And I've had some really good
ideas in the past during my

930
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,080
runs.
And I'm like, Oh yeah, thank God

931
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,400
I went for that run today.
I love that.

932
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,360
And not a lame answer.
You're not allowed to say that.

933
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,840
That's a great answer.
Thank you for sharing that,

934
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,880
Rich.
And by the way, shout out to to

935
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,400
Travis in the audience because I
haven't seen Travis here.

936
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,840
Oh, did he just leave?
Darn it, I was just going to say

937
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,160
hello to him because we haven't
seen him here in a while.

938
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,000
Oh well, Dr. go ahead.
Rich said that he gets creative

939
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,600
on his runs.
And I get my most creative ideas

940
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,000
in water, whether it's a shower
or the pool or something.

941
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:30,240
There's something about water
where I get ideas for recipes, I

942
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:34,800
get ideas for content, I get
ideas for song lyrics.

943
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,280
Who I live in Nashville, so I
mean, it's just really weird how

944
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,640
water brings that on for me.
That's really cool.

945
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,200
And so now I know Dr. when we're
struggling for content ideas,

946
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,760
planning for this show, I'm just
going to encourage you to go go

947
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,520
take a shower.
Don't be offended when I say

948
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,280
that.
Right time for a shower, Dr. All

949
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,400
right, well, listen gang, it is
8:00 AM, so it's time to wrap up

950
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,080
in a reminder that tomorrow,
7:00 AM Eastern, we are back

951
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,160
live on Clubhouse, live on
YouTube, and we're going to be

952
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,120
covering all the headlines
around the world of podcasting

953
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,760
and content creation, the things
that will affect you, things

954
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,080
that will be of interest to you
as a content creator.

955
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,400
So come join us tomorrow.
We have lots of good

956
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,040
conversations on Wednesdays
around all the ongoings around

957
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,720
the world of podcasting.
Looking forward to that.

958
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:29,160
And until then, make it a great
day.

959
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,280
Everybody, take care.