355 - Google Could Sell Chrome, GPT-5 Stirs Debate & Patreon Pays Out $10 Billion

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Good morning, podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Wednesday, August 13th,
2025.

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And today, just like every
Wednesday, it's Newsday.

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We're going to keep you up on
everything that's happening in

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the podcasting world, staff,
charts, events and Barbie.

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Yeah, Barbie.
I'll explain in a second.

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So if you're listening just live
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podcaster.
And now give us about 30 seconds

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and we'll get things rolling.
And yeah, Papa Mark is still out

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for the week.
Good morning, everybody.

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Mark is still out.
He is doing like a camp

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counselor kind of thing for
something that I can't

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pronounce.
Does anyone remember what the?

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Yeah, that's Charcot Marie Tooth
disease, CMT, and it's a

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peripheral nerve disease.
He's at Camp Footprint in

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western Pennsylvania.
Awesome.

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And he does this because his
very, very best friend has this

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along with some of I believe the
daughter also has this.

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And so Mark does this every
single year because his best

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friend has.
So we are going to push ahead.

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Mark's going to be back on
Tuesday by the way, so today,

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Wednesday, Newsday.
And so we have some, we have

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everything that's going to keep
you in touch with the podcasting

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world, basically.
And we're going to try and be as

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seamless as we are when Mark is
here.

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So with that in mind, I'm going
to kick it over to Ashley and

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she has the stats for us today.
All right, so here is your

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podcast data for August the
13th.

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Number one in Apple podcast in
the United States is Cold

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Blooded Mystery in Alaska.
The number one in Spotify for

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the United States is, of course,
the Joe Rogan Experience.

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Really.
Oh, OK.

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Yeah.
And should I continue on down to

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podcast index?
Yeah.

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Don't go right ahead.
The Podcast Index reports this

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week that there are 4,628,851
podcast its directory with a

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total of 1,000,001 145,560,997
podcast episodes, which is an

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average of 31.5 episodes per
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Wow.
How about the active podcasts?

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OK, that would be the new
episodes in the last week

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they're up 442,428, which is
12.7%.

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That is up from last week from
392,704 and the.

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New jump 12.7 That's a a nice
big jump from one week to

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another.
I was just thinking the same and

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the new episodes in the last 30
days is up by 1.9% from last

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month.
Awesome.

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That means a new podcast episode
is posted every 0.8 seconds.

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Let's talk about the charts.
Spotify.

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That number 5 is Crime junkie #4
is breaking news from Pod Save

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America #3 is crime, conspiracy,
cults and murder #2 is good hang

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with Amy Poehler, and #1 is the
Joe Rogan Experience.

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The random chart of the week.
I picked investing, so get out

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your pens and papers, ladies and
gentlemen.

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You might want to take a listen
to this.

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Number 5, and this is from the
Apple charts #5 is Money Rehab

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with Nicole lappen #4 is right
about now with Ryan Alford #3 is

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chief change officer #2 is Diary
of ACEO with Stephen Bartlett,

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and #1 is the Level Up podcast
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OK, so I'm going to go into a
little bit of events right now.

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Every Thursday there is a
podcasting network networking

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event.
It's virtual so anyone can join.

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It's put on by the podcast
directory and it's 1:00 Pacific,

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4:00 Eastern.
And every Thursday they have

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like 3 different topics that
they're going to concentrate on.

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And this is just for podcasters
or people who want to be a guest

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on a podcast.
That's strictly what it's for.

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OK.
And we're going to put the link

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in the show notes, but the three
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business and entrepreneurship,
money and finance and

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technology.
And AII went last week.

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And the creator of this, the
leader of this is giving

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podcasting morning chat a
coupon.

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And if you put PMC like in caps
in the apply coupon area, you

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get in for free.
Now I tried this yesterday and

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it worked beautifully.
What I did was I chose like the

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four dollar amount, I clicked on
the four dollar amount, and then

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once that second screen came up,
I put in PMC apply and all of a

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sudden was free.
So this works, you know it, it

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works.
So go ahead and test it out.

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That's tomorrow, 4:00 PM
Eastern.

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And please, please come to this.
We're trying to build this up a

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little bit, you know, get the
podcasters and the people who

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want to be guests on podcasting.
We're trying to create a little

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movement here.
You know, also the Empowered

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podcasting #2 is September 26th
to 28th.

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It's in Charlotte, NC, and
y'all, please, there's tickets

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available.
We're going to put the link in

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the show notes.
This is going to be great.

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You guys, you guys have got to
come.

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Let's talk about the awards.
So true crime, I think it's

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probably still the number one
genre, right, Jonathan?

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I was just going to say it's
probably #1 but are you giving

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me an award?
Because I will always accept

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awards.
Sure.

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Well, tell us your mystery and
you've you've got the award.

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There we go.
I'll think about that one.

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So there are awards.
It's called the True Crime

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Podcast and there's nominations
for the Clue Awards.

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I love it, the Clue Awards.
So the nominees for this year's

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Clue Awards are in spotlighting
excellence and responsible

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storytelling in true crime
across podcasts, TV, film and

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publishing. 10 series, they're
calling it.

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Series 10 podcasts will compete
for top honors in the

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outstanding docu series and
outstanding episode categories.

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You know, we keep coming up with
these new words like docu series

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or podcasting, and that's
bugging me a little bit.

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OK Nominees for outstanding docu
series is true crime news

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presents American hustlers in
esto podcast with Ann Lee hunt

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up and vanished who killed
Jennifer Judd and san miguel's

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kidnappings now.
The Clue Award nominees and

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winners are determined by an
independent committee of

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industry professionals including
producers, network and streaming

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executives, and other creatives
representing all sectors of the

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true crime genre.
This year's judges have not been

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finalized, but in 2024 the
committee included high level

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executives, acclaimed creatives
from companies including NBCU,

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Wandering Wandering Yeah Simon
and Schuster, Investigation

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Discovery, Campfire Studios.
The award ceremonies will be

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held September 6th in Denver as
part of the annual Crime Con

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event.
Actor in hip Hop legend Ice T is

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set to host the ceremony.
You know he has St. cred because

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he has 25 years of Law and Order
SVU under his belt.

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So let's get you some news
bites.

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Ashley, can you pick it up?
I I think I've talked long

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enough all in one stretch.
All right, so the first thing I

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see in the news bites section is
Spotify has handed the podcast

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linking tool Pod Blank back to
its original creator and it's

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now been given a fresh refresh.
The revamp Pod Link features an

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updated popularity ranked list
of podcast platforms.

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This is the option to set your
preferred app and built in

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trailer highlights.
It's short lived replacement

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episodes dot FM now redirects to
Pod Link and all existing links

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for both services which still
work.

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I want to tell you that I use
Pod Link all the time, all the

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time and there is a huge
difference.

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Before it was like bright pink,
you know, the screen was and it

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kind of looked kind of amateur
kind of stuff.

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Now it's sleek, it's beautiful,
it's gorgeous.

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Again, if you don't want to have
all of these different links of

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where to catch your podcast,
just give the pod link link.

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The link from pod link of what?
Because it's so much cleaner and

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it's just so much better.
So rumors are swirling about 71

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year old Howard Stern possible
retirement from SiriusXM, but

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insiders say he's unlikely to
pass the torch to Alex Cooper.

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I didn't even know that that was
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She's the one that really gets
under his skin.

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A source told The Sun.
She pulls in hundreds of

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millions of listens, landed a
massive $125 million deal, and

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he still can't stand that this
young bubbly woman is now the

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big new star.
I do.

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I did not write this, y'all.
I don't know who wrote this.

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Both Stern and the 30 year old
Call Her Daddy host have multi

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$1,000,000 contracts with
SiriusXM and Cooper also boasts

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her own dedicated channel on the
platform.

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How about that?
I think it's very ironic because

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this is the same position he was
with Imus, and it's just kind of

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like he's getting exactly what
he deserves with this.

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I am so happy, but at the same
time I find it really funny and

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we don't talk about Howard Stern
at all really.

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And.
Not anymore, right?

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No, but I'm just saying in
general, and he is so

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mainstream, and I think it's
pretty fascinating.

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You know, your boyfriend Joe
Rogan has been like, he takes

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over the airwaves, yet Howard
Stern has been there and has

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always been there.
And I find it really fascinating

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now that we're starting to talk
about him when he's always been

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there and he's and he's always
had great numbers.

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Yeah, he can't crash and burn
enough for me.

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But I mean, he's funny.
I love his interviews, but I was

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always an immest person growing
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So he can pass all.
Alex, who do you think would be

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a good candidate in when he
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I think that I could see her
actually filling his shoes, but

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I don't think, and I wish Mark
was here because he would really

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have a really great perspective
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You know, there's no such thing
as a shock shock anymore.

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He was the last of the great
shock shocks.

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I mean, the closest thing maybe
is Joe Rogan.

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But at the same time, I could
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just taking over.
I don't think it's going to be a

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takeover as much as it's just
going to be a change in the

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slot.
That's all it is.

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Right.
I just find it fascinating that

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he is getting the treatment or
he's giving the treatment that

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he got when he started at WMBC.
Absolutely, it is my egg fixing

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time and I think now's a good
time to throw it over to Nick.

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Nick, you ready?
Good morning everybody.

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I just got a few news updates
for you.

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Nothing crazy happening this
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The first one, if you didn't
already know, Google has been a

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little bit of legal trouble with
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I'm not totally Privy as what's
going on, but like just enough

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to have an idea.
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that Google's use of Chrome has
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status, and it was ruled that
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they need to sell it, and
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that front.
But that hasn't stopped offers

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from coming in.
And where the AI ties into this

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is perplexity.
AI has put in a 34 or I guess

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over a 34 billion with AB dollar
bid to purchase Chrome from

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Google.
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anything about it.
They have not commented on it at

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all.
But I think it's pretty

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interesting and fascinating
because I think perplexity is

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their value.
Total company value is worth

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about half of the bid that they
just put in for Chrome.

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And they're saying that they
have a lot of investors that are

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willing to back this deal for
them to purchase Chrome.

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So I'm interested to see what
would happen if Plexity did in

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fact buy Chrome.
I think it's a long shot because

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Google's going to fight it tooth
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They obviously have the funding,
but still interesting

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nonetheless.
Next in AI, so GPT 5, we've

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talked about it for the last
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Now it is out.
I believe everybody should have

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it at this point.
If you don't, it should be soon,

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but I believe everyone should
have it at this point.

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But people have been kind of
complaining about GPT 5.

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I think a lot of lot of those
that were GPT 4 users really

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liked how GPT 4 operated.
They kind of got attached to

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conversing with that model and
Sam Altman decided that he was

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going to allow users to use
those older models still.

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If you've tried GPT 5 and you're
like, I hate this, I want to go

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back to the old models, but
currently seems unavailable.

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You still have the ability to do
so.

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You just have to go in, click on
your little profile icon and go

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into the settings and there are
options for you to bring back

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and use the GPT 4, the O3, the
O4 models.

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So, Nick, what's their number
one complaint about it, though?

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Some people have been
complaining about the accuracy

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of math and reasoning.
I don't use ChatGPT for any math

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type stuff so I can't confirm
that or back to that experience

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up with anything.
Other people just don't like the

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way it talks to them.
They got attached to how GPT 4 O

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would converse with them and
then now the GPT 5 came out it

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feels like they're talking to a
completely different AI little

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bit.
Different.

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It's weird.
I'm so glad you brought this up

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because I thought it was me.
I don't know if anybody else has

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been using 5 and I haven't.
And I've just started using chat

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GPTA lot for creating social
media posts for my company. 4

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seem very smooth and five just
seems a little bit like it's

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still learning a little bit
more.

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I don't know, maybe it's just
me, but it's just so funny that

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you said that cuz I noticed it.
I thought it was me, Alex.

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Let me ask you cuz I've been
using GPT 5 but I've been using

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it for very specific things not
any kind of like writing tasks.

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So is it how it words things?
Like does a word stuff goofy for

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you or what about it makes it
feel different?

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I don't think it's as quick.
It's not that it's bad because

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it's not bad.
It's just it's the way it's just

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producing.
It is just a little bit

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different.
It's reasoning is just a little

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bit different.
It's like you have to over

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explain stuff like you used to
have to do where now it's where

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4 is.
And maybe Renee has a better

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handle on it, but I can't put my
finger on it.

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But I know that there's a
difference, if that makes sense.

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Yeah, I got you.
And Renee, since you came up

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here, I'm assuming you came up
to participate in this.

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You want to speak to any of this
or do you have anything else we

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want to add to the?
Yeah, I don't have anything on

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GPT 5 because I've been actually
I'm on my second week of

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vacation, so I've been doing the
bare minimum work while I'm on

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vacation.
So I've not played around around

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with GPT 5 at all other than to
run very basic questions like

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like where's the best place to
eat dinner and such and such

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town I'm in.
So I'm no help for that.

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But I can tell you that I want
to just comment on the Google

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real quick.
You know, when we think about

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the relationship you know,
Google has with Google Chrome,

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this is the source of all of its
information.

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This is where they, the plug
insurance lay that are there

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from people different companies
are laying on there.

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This is where they gather, where
people travel to, what they do.

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I can't even imagine a world
where Google has to give up

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Chrome, their source of all this
information.

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I mean, that's really the crux
of their data source.

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So I just wanted to throw that
into that, Nicholas.

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Do you think this is going to be
the next like it could be turned

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into like the baby bells if you
know what I'm talking about?

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No, I don't teach me.
And now I'm feeling old.

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OK, Dr. So you've got.
Oh baby.

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Oh bell.
Like, oh Mama, Mama Bell and

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breaking.
It up they.

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Don't even know how that could
happen.

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This is the whole thing.
It's a data play and asking them

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to break up who they are and
what they are is because they

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own so much of us.
So then for us to give that to

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another company, that's just
going to make that company the

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giant.
So whoever would buy that data

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or be forced to buy that data is
going to be the kingpin.

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So if they are forced and they
can't get out of it, because I'm

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sure they're saying the same
thing without saying it is,

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guys, this is our business.
This is what we own, this is who

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we are.
So and that's my input.

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I appreciate it Renee.
Yeah, I think it's kind of far

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fetched.
Like I said, they're they're

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obviously fighting every bit of
the way and I haven't people

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have put in bids and I believe
they've all gotten rejected or

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just ignored.
I don't see this one going any

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differently.
I just think it's really funny

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because Google and perplexity
have kind of had a butting of

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heads.
Complexity is in baby or and

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trying to change up the search
game and then they put in a

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massive bit to buy micro flat
out.

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I think it's kind of humorous.
The question that I have is,

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going back to what you were
saying, Renee, is what does

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Google own?
And it seems like Matt's going

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to come up and answer some of
these questions.

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I mean, yes, it's the data, but
if you did take out Chrome, what

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else do they like?
To your point, what else do they

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have left?
I don't know.

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Well.
They do have a lot, they do have

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all our data from our Gmail.
They have every single Google

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product they own.
They own a lot of business data.

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They they do own Google business
profile platforms and I'm out on

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a walk so I can't like pull up
everything they own, but any of

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us could.
They do own a lot of other

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things, but what they're missing
is the up to date data of what

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we're interested in all those
Google searches.

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Yeah.
And I want to hear what Matt has

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to say also.
Before Matt comes in, Matt, I'm

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going to come to you in a
second.

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What I want to throw in there is
Google Chrome, but I know we're

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kind of getting off on a little
bit of a tangent here, but

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Chrome itself is just the
browser.

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It's not necessarily the search
engine itself, like Google

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itself, the search engine, the
Chrome, is just the platform

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that you use to access it.
But you can access Google from

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any browser.
Microsoft Edge, which I don't

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think anybody really uses,
they're tapped into Bing, or

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they're still Bing now.
They're tapped into the Bing

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search engine.
So if Microsoft Edge went away,

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that doesn't mean that Bing goes
along with it.

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It's just you would have to
access Bing from another

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location.
Don't you touch my edge.

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I love my edge.
Android and an Edge browser.

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What go?
For it, man.

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It's only because I've been
following tech and stuff for a

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little while.
I'm going to try and give you my

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lead up to this situation.
My Google Apps history and

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background in 60 seconds.
I think it was since 2016, the

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AU was having an eye at Android
and Google for including Chrome

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as their default browser and a
number of apps by default on

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devices they own.
Because Google owns Android as

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an OS and a platform, and so the
integration of those things is a

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monopoly.
But search is also included in

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there as well.
So when you're bundling Android

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with Chrome and then
prioritizing search that gets

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paid for in Google.
Then you have a big control like

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Renee was talking about with the
whole history and having a all

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that data and people being able
to pay for ads to be prioritized

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in search engines.
So what that essentially means

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is that they've gone to Google,
they've said, hey, you've got a

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monopoly here.
You're taking a couple of

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billion dollars from different
companies every year or giving

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them to companies every year to
package your app inside devices

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with prioritized and paid for
search.

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That de prioritizes people who
haven't paid you money to be

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placed at the very top of search
list in Google and who these

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days goes past page one or even
page 2 on their Google search.

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I don't think many do.
Plus we got, you know, AI search

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engines that are, well, search
engines, whatever you call them,

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doing something a little bit
different.

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So the other aspect that's
coming to this is the Google

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Play Store, in contrast to other
Play stores, has meant that when

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Fortnite went after Apple for
removing their app from the Play

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Store because they didn't follow
guidelines with the mobile App

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Store payments because they were
trying to take payments outside

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of the 30% that Apple takes.
They've also been in a couple of

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years of legal action and have
recently won against Apple to

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ensure that Fortnite gets placed
on app stores again.

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Google Play Store also being one
of those things, also bundled

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together with Android and also
having the ability now to

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include links to payments that
go entirely and avoiding the app

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ecosystem percentage that goes
on top already.

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All that stuff I've explained
there should give you an idea of

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where Google's monopoly sits.
Like if you've got the OS, the

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browser, the search, the ad
campaigns, and anything you

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touch is Google related.
Like it's if you've got an

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Android phone right now and you
use the Google search, then you

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go to a website and you use the
share button at the very top of

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the Google search preview page.
Not Chrome, but the Google

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search preview page.
You'll see it gives you an AMP

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shortcut link which redirects
the instance of the page through

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a Google shortened link which
takes that data.

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Whereas if you click the three
dots and click copy link to

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website, that will give you the
website link instead.

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Like Google, as Renee said, is
all about retaining that data

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and separating the company out
and selling it off in different

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ways is going to enable people
to access the data.

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But I don't think Google is
going to retain it in a non

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monopoly state where someone
like Perplexity has access to

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the browser.
They're going to do the weird

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business stuff, get an appeals
thing into the courts, have that

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take three years.
And in that three years they'll

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figure out a way to create
another company or a subsidiary

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that works at cross purposes but
also in collaboration with

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Google's apps.
And that is my summary of the

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whole action in the in 60
seconds, which was probably like

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5 minutes.
But it is complex.

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There is a lot that Google owns.
There is a lot that Google

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kills.
And I think the biggest thing to

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take away from this is not how
it impacts anything else, like

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the whole Chromium experience
that also runs Microsoft Edge,

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which is the browser that Dr.
loves.

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And I don't know how you could
love that with the copilot being

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piled into everything, but it is
going to have an impact on the

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user experience.
But overall, what we do as users

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isn't going to change.
The thing that has changed from

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10 years ago is how we feel
about our data, who controls it

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and the privacy of ourselves in
the overall Internet.

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They're still willing to forgo
that privacy if we can get

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functionality.
And so that's the philosophical

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question on top of everything.
But I reckon the perplexity by

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as a joke, they're not going to
spend 4232 whatever billion

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buying a browser, especially
when people are talking about

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their common browser at the
moment or whatever.

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But anyway, that's me.
That was awesome.

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Nick, I think you have one other
thing right.

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Yeah.
So jumping back to GPT five,

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I've, I've personally, I've had
a really good experience with

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it.
I spent a lot of time building

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apps on the platform, which is
kind of fun and play with and a

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little bit different of an
experience.

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But one of the complaints to
what Alex was asking or someone

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was asking, maybe it was UDR,
was that the, the GPT 5 thinking

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the more powerful model didn't
give plus users enough requests.

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People were exceeding the amount
of requests and and Sam Altman

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had came out and said that they
were going to increase the

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number of requests per week up
to like 3000 chat requests.

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So it gives plus users more time
with the model and on top of

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that there are three. 1000 per
what?

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3000 per week.
Per week, Per week I.

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Think I can deal with that,
yeah.

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I haven't hit it yet and I've
used it quite a bit in the last

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couple days.
So I I don't know, maybe I've

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already got that increase and
it's not a problem for me.

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But I could imagine people who
are doing intense coding type

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activities if that pretty fast.
But on top of that they are

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offering soon.
I haven't seen it available yet,

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but a limited number of user
requests for the GPT 5 Pro

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model, which currently is only
available to if you're paying

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$200 a month for ChatGPT.
So that is something that's

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coming.
It's supposed to be faster to

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00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,360
the point Alex said where GPT 5
feels a little bit slower.

451
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:42,120
And it's thinking GPT 5 or GPT 5
Pro is supposed to be a lot

452
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:46,720
quicker, a lot more powerful.
Just pretty much anytime ChatGPT

453
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,880
releases a model, just replace
those words now with this.

454
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,520
Model.
So Nick, is that you or you in

455
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,680
that $200 range?
Oh gosh no, I'll wait for the

456
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,400
the good stuff to trickle down
to my $20.00 a month model.

457
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,560
That's.
Right again.

458
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Trickle down theory.
All right.

459
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,000
Yeah.
What's kind of interesting is

460
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,360
I'm just playing with it right
now and on the the mobile app,

461
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,480
when you hit ChatGPT 5, you've
got a couple of different

462
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,600
options.
You know, from auto faster

463
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,160
thinking and you know, auto was
thinking normal, I guess fast as

464
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,440
instant answers and then
thinking is a little bit longer.

465
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,440
The only one that I can get on
my phone is ChatGPT 4, but it

466
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,920
seemed like I was be I was able
to get all the GP TS on my

467
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,920
desktop.
So I don't know maybe or my

468
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,600
maybe, I just thought that was
the case.

469
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
But Nick didn't.
Once 5 came out, didn't that

470
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,600
wipe out just about all of them?
I haven't been on it today yet,

471
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,840
but the last couple days I've
been playing with that.

472
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,760
If I go to the model selection
in, at least on desktop, I only

473
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,360
have the option between like GPT
5 I think they call it like

474
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,640
their flagship model and GPT 5
thinking.

475
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,000
But if you don't select any
model, it's supposed to

476
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,120
determine based on your request
which model to use.

477
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,840
I think that's been a a bone of
contention for people as well as

478
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,520
that they don't understand why
it's choosing the models it's

479
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760
choosing.
And they're saying they might

480
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920
have a little bit of an issue
with how it's choosing the

481
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,280
models it's choosing.
But I think I've primarily with

482
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760
the stuff I've been doing has
been all the GPT 5 thinking,

483
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,480
which is slower, but I've had
overall really good experience

484
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,080
with it so far.
Right when it first changed over

485
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,680
for me from 4:00 to 5:00, I got
this beautiful in color,

486
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,120
gorgeous screen.
And now it's back to the bare

487
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,960
bones, the black and white, no
nonsense, no frills kind of

488
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,440
screen.
Is that is it just me or is it

489
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,480
that happened to everyone?
I honestly haven't noticed.

490
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,960
I noticed initially when it was
all colorful, but then I kind of

491
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,280
stopped paying attention.
OK, I'm going to say it's

492
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,280
probably with everyone.
Alex, is it back to the black?

493
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,920
I never, I never saw the colors.
I never even saw the black and

494
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,560
white.
Maybe that's a different setting

495
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,720
or something?
One of my things is that in

496
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,200
order to keep me on that screen,
it has to be aesthetically

497
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,280
pleasing to my eye.
This is one of the reasons why I

498
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:18,080
don't go to Discord because it's
not aesthetically pleasing to my

499
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,000
eye.
So with all the different

500
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,840
competitors and everything
coming up in AI, they they just

501
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840
need to up their game and on the
interface.

502
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,720
That's my opinion, just.
Y'all are crazy.

503
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Y'all are crazy.
It works incredibly well.

504
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,600
It chooses.
So what?

505
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,160
It doesn't have color.
I'm sitting there going, I'm

506
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800
listening to you guys.
I'm going, wow, things change.

507
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,040
That happens.
We get used to it.

508
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,000
It gives you better answers, at
least in my opinion, and it

509
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,840
works really well and fast for
fast for the thinking model

510
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,800
compared to what it was.
Then I think you need to

511
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,280
rephrase what you just said.
Y'all are crazy.

512
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,840
So I mean, you know, we got to
take it all with a grain of salt

513
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520
though.
But I will say in her defense,

514
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,080
it would be nice if it was a
more aesthetically pleasing, but

515
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,520
at the same time it does what
it's supposed to do it.

516
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Does what it's supposed to do
and and some of the other

517
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,440
competitors will be doing that
as well.

518
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,560
I think going back to the thing
about Google with Chrome, I

519
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,960
mean, let's face it, it's all
about the interface.

520
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,880
If the interface works and
people like it, then it's going

521
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,280
to be a little bit more
successful.

522
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000
And I'm not saying that Touchy
PD is not going to be.

523
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,120
And I'm with you, I don't have a
problem with that, what color it

524
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,000
is.
But I just think it all comes

525
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,200
back to the interface and how
people use stuff.

526
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,840
And it'll be interesting to see
if it does get changed or how

527
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,960
all these topics get played out.
And the other thing I wish is

528
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,600
that there was better
organization.

529
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,560
I would love to see some kind of
folders there for you know, so

530
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,080
like when we when I do the news.
They have folders.

531
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,600
They're called projects on the
side.

532
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,560
There should be a thing that you
can say new project and you can

533
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080
start conversations in there and
all of those conversations

534
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,120
states.
Something that says folders, but

535
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,160
it's called projects.
OK, well I got to check that out

536
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,800
then.
Jonathan, you are up with some

537
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,480
social media news.
I'm sorry, I'm not giving social

538
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,720
media news to crazy people, no.
Too late, brother.

539
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,840
All righty, well, we have there
were some Instagram updates and

540
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,440
I know we talked about repost,
which is a big one.

541
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,440
So you can now repost your
favorite content, but I would go

542
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,480
beyond just reposting your
favorite content.

543
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,760
I would focus on reposting
things that are going to help

544
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,240
you, you know, talk about things
in your business.

545
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,160
So definitely a focus for that.
There are also new edits updates

546
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,880
for Instagram for the Instagram
edits app, which I don't know if

547
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,080
anybody's using.
It's nowhere near as good as cap

548
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,800
cut, but it's getting better.
So it does have now you can

549
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,160
share drafts with collaborators.
They have stickies and a

550
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,720
teleprompter feature, which is
allowing you to actually do

551
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,040
talking head reels with a
teleprompter so you can see it.

552
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,920
It's actually making it a lot
easier for people that don't

553
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,600
like to memorize their content.
So that's great and volume now

554
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,040
you can go to 150%.
So that's the big change there.

555
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000
Other than that, we've been over
on Chatter.

556
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,120
They did have some updates to
the app again, doing some fun

557
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,280
things and we have multi
streaming coming in the next

558
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,280
couple weeks over there.
So a full multi streaming

559
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,200
solution on Chatter which is
connected directly with Blue

560
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,440
Sky.
So that integration is fully

561
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,240
complete now and that's that's
what we've got social media

562
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840
wise.
Let's get back to that volume

563
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,000
thing you said.
The volume goes all the way up

564
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,080
to 150%.
Increase your volume, yeah.

565
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,040
So if you are, if you are like
sounding very low compared to

566
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,000
like the music in the
background, you can increase

567
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,280
your volume up to 150%.
I do recommend bringing your

568
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,960
music down to 1%.
Generally is a better solution,

569
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,120
but you can do it the other way.
This feels very Spinal Tapish to

570
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,280
me.
So it's not 100.

571
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,000
It's it's not ten, it's 11.
It's not 100, it's 150.

572
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,800
It feels very Spinal Tapish to
me.

573
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,880
Well, thank you very much,
Jonathan.

574
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
That's great.
We're going to get back online

575
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,719
on the news.
And Ashley, you are up talking

576
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,880
about Chandra land.
And just before Ashley says, if

577
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,120
you're not familiar with Chandra
Land, she is.

578
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,920
Chandra is a huge mega media
influence.

579
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,480
She's the creator of Grey's
Anatomy and a ton of other

580
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480
shows.
I did not know that she also had

581
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,960
podcasts in her portfolio.
So there is some news about

582
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,239
that.
Go ahead, Ashley.

583
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Shawn, the Land.
Grey's Anatomy has shut down its

584
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,680
podcast division after five
years, leading to layoffs and

585
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,720
uncertainty about partnership
with I Heart Media.

586
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Shows affected include
Bridgerton, the last official

587
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,760
podcast, and the Laverne Cox
Show.

588
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,720
This follows A broader trend in
the industry as Amazon is also

589
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,640
restructuring its podcast
business and cutting jobs at

590
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Wondery.
Yeah, Wondery has been through

591
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,400
the mill.
I just wanted to do an aside

592
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,800
here.
I saw on pod news, God love

593
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,960
James because you know, there
was about 110 people who lost

594
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,720
their job at Wondery.
And I clicked on a link

595
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:37,680
somewhere on pod news.
He has listed every single

596
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:43,040
person who lost their job, what
their specialty is and their

597
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,280
contact information for anyone
who's looking for someone for,

598
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,240
you know, for a job to fill.
So I thought that was I thought

599
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,400
that was absolutely great.
So James, just thank you to you

600
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,840
for that.
I tease this at the top of the

601
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,520
show.
This kind of goes into the

602
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,680
you've got to be kidding me
department.

603
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,480
And Renee, I, I want you to
listen to this because I think

604
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,040
that your information will be
pretty valuable here.

605
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,760
So a podcast that has been
active for about 5 years, it's

606
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:19,120
called Coffee with Ken is in hot
water today because the toy

607
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,920
giant Mattel is suing host Ken
Bibbery.

608
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,880
His show features thought
leadership conversations with

609
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,280
government officials CE OS
entrepreneurs.

610
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,120
But Mattel claims listeners
could somehow mistake him for

611
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,160
Barbie's plastic boyfriend.
You know, Ken Mattel, what are

612
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,320
you drinking over there?
So I personally think that this

613
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,480
is probably the greatest thing
that could ever happen to to

614
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,280
Coffee with Ken because now
millions more people know about

615
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Coffee with Ken.
Renee, do you have any comment

616
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,080
about this?
Well, my first question is,

617
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,720
yeah, I agree with you 100%,
like the lucky day for him.

618
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,360
But second thing is, is what
does his branding look like?

619
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,040
I would want to look at that.
And if there's, but it's really

620
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,480
comes down to branding
confusion.

621
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,320
What's the likelihood that
people will be confused?

622
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,880
And he unfortunately may have to
lawyer up on this.

623
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,280
Yeah, he does change his
branding.

624
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,600
He does have a lawyer and his
his branding is like a bright

625
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,680
near yellow with black bold
lettering.

626
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:41,480
And there is nothing remotely
Barbie esque in any of his

627
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,760
branding.
I mean, it's, it's crazy.

628
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,800
We have too many cases, We have
too many cases where using your

629
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960
name is legal.
Like in most states.

630
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,200
If you just open a business with
your name, Auto Body by Ken, you

631
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,440
know Ken or Auto Body by Ken
Smithington, you don't even have

632
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,880
to file that with the state
because it recognizes that this

633
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,200
is your business.
This is your name.

634
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,480
You get to use your name as the
you don't have to go through the

635
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,280
whole fictitious name search
because it's your name.

636
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,400
I'd like to follow that one from
a legal standpoint just to see

637
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,000
that, I mean, this is
ridiculous.

638
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,040
I mean, look at why aren't they
going after photography by Ken

639
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,280
and all these other things.
I I think, yeah, he made it on

640
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,840
Mattel's radar.
I think what I would do if I

641
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,760
were the lawyer, I would be
looking at the conversations and

642
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,360
interactions and I would bring
those to the table and say, you

643
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,440
know, yes, there's been five
people out of 400,000 that have

644
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,800
made mention to Ken and Barbie,
but that was never brought on by

645
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,800
Ken.
That was brought on by them.

646
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,200
So there could be a little bit
more to the story that we don't

647
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,640
know, that he could have made
some references.

648
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,720
But I agree with you this this
will be a fun one to watch.

649
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,360
The first name is of course Ken,
but the last name is spelled

650
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,760
BIBAR.
A.

651
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:08,080
J And it's pronounced bibbery,
so it's going on for five years.

652
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,560
The show's going on for five
years, and they went for a

653
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,840
trademark, and that's what put
them on Mattel's radar.

654
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,840
So it is crazy.
What are your thoughts on

655
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,640
intellectual property rights in
the context of widely recognized

656
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,000
characters like Ken, especially
when the content is completely

657
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,840
unrelated?
I mean, we've already talked

658
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,240
about branding.
The fact that he, his branding

659
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,040
is completely different than
Barbie.

660
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,000
I don't even think there's the
color pink anywhere in his

661
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,400
branding, Matthew.
Just a shout out to my

662
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Australians.
I'd be very concerned if I was

663
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,760
doing a BBQ related podcast
because on.

664
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,720
The Barbie.
Let's talk.

665
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,160
About Barbies, they might be
coming after me.

666
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,560
I don't.
Know.

667
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Agreed, Ashley.
You have something about Patreon

668
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,840
today.
Yes, absolutely.

669
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,360
This is interesting.
Patreon just released some new

670
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,560
figures, and they are claiming
that Patreon creators have now

671
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,080
earned over 10 billion since the
platform was first launched in

672
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,960
2013.
The company is now paying

673
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,880
creators more than 2 billion
annually and there's now more

674
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,720
than 25,000,000 paid memberships
on the platform.

675
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,240
And I find this interesting
because I helped run a couple of

676
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Patreon communities and I've
seen that it can be somewhat

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00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,480
sustaining.
But what do y'all think?

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00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,360
Do y'all think that this is a
long term thing that can be

679
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,760
sustaining to your career?
Or what challenges do you think

680
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,840
might be happening if you choose
to go straight on Patreon?

681
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,160
So Patreon is interesting.
How long have you been helping

682
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,000
people on Patreon?
About two years.

683
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,960
OK, so you have been there long
enough to see it kind of morphed

684
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,120
into something from what it was
when you started two years ago

685
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,440
to what it is now.
And so I'm assuming that you

686
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,760
would say that it's better.
Have they gotten rid of any kind

687
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,600
of features that you wish they
had not?

688
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,840
Was it better when you first
joined?

689
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,880
If anything, it's gotten better.
They keep adding features.

690
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,000
Now I will say, and this isn't
on Patreon, this is on Apple.

691
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,720
And that is if you decide to
become a patron of someone, you

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00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,920
use the Apple App, they add a
surcharge.

693
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,320
I can't remember the percentage,
but I do remember when that

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happened.
There were a lot of folks upset.

695
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,520
But the work around to that is
to join the Patreon that you

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00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,920
want to join through a browser
as opposed to going through the

697
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,160
Patreon app in the App Store.
I hope that makes sense.

698
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Through a browser.
OK, excellent.

699
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:45,680
So I was trying to think of who
Patreon's competitor is.

700
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,800
I think there's something called
Member Full, but I haven't

701
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,360
really heard anything about
them.

702
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,400
Patreon is pretty much the
patriarch of the of the family,

703
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,800
I guess you would say.
Have you heard anything about

704
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,040
Member Full?
I am not familiar.

705
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,880
Yeah, I think that's that's one
of their competitors.

706
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Anyway, I'm going to go on to
the next story and that is about

707
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,280
the Edison Research has revealed
the power of UK podcasting.

708
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Pay attention Matthew, I know
you're in Australia, but you

709
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,320
still have Auk accent so I will
give it to you.

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00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,440
The biggest 10 shows in the UK
reach a staggering 2.3 million

711
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,920
Americans every week.
Now there's 10 here, but I'm

712
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:37,000
going to read from the top five.
S #5 is Magnus archives #4 is

713
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,400
The Rest is history #3 I'm
slowing down here to read this

714
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:53,760
SHXTS and gigs and #2 is Diary
of ACEO and #1 is On Purpose

715
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,160
with Jay Shetty.
I think that's pretty

716
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,360
interesting.
Matthew, do you listen to any of

717
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,960
those podcasts?
I don't.

718
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,400
I stopped listening to Diary of
a CEO a little while ago because

719
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,520
of my own opinions.
And I'm not surprised that Jay

720
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,720
Shetty's up there as well.
Like he's he had a pretty quick

721
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:10,240
rise to fame.
He's been doing pretty well with

722
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,960
his own podcast the last couple
of years, although more than

723
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,560
usually being put in hot water
for things he said and doesn't

724
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,200
do or doesn't doesn't say.
Yeah, I think there was a little

725
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:27,480
bit of controversy going on
about his bio is not everything

726
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,360
that.
I think it's not generally it's

727
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,600
a vibe like where he came from.
He started as a bloke who was a

728
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,800
journalist or something, went
off to do Monk stuff for a year

729
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,080
and a bit, came back
enlightened.

730
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,520
And now he's got his multi
$1,000,000 LA house on the side

731
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,440
and you know, a very successful
podcast and very visible.

732
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,960
Perhaps not as Monk like as one
might presume, not as much

733
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,560
humility.
And so he's.

734
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,640
Not in the monk business
anymore.

735
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,920
Give the guy a break.
He's not in the monk business

736
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,080
anymore, so.
Someone can be enlightened and

737
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,040
wealthy, I imagine you know the
world is what it is.

738
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,280
Oh, awesome, Ashley, there's
three stories on YouTube that I

739
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,360
would like to get in before we
wrap up today.

740
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,120
And Ashley, you go with, go with
the first one.

741
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,200
All right, editing videos with
multi audio language tracks.

742
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Creators will soon be able to
use studio editor on videos with

743
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,360
automatic dubbing enabled and
once edits are saved, the auto

744
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,480
dub tracks will be regenerated
to match the changes.

745
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,960
However, editing videos that
have manually uploaded multi

746
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,880
language audio tracks isn't
supported just yet.

747
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,400
That features it's expected to
roll out later this year.

748
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,280
The other feature that's new is
Post image limit increase.

749
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Now this is expected to be fully
launched by the end of this

750
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,240
week.
Now, until now, creators were

751
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:54,920
limited to uploading 5 images
per post on their channel.

752
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,040
That limit has now been doubled,
allowing up to 10 images per

753
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880
post.
The updated feature is rolling

754
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:10,680
out across iOS, Android,
tablets, desktop, and Studio

755
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,200
all.
Right, you're the next one.

756
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,640
YouTube is to promote
improvement for website visits.

757
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,320
YouTube Promote has been updated
to give creators more control

758
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,440
over their calls to action when
driving website visits.

759
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,080
Now, when setting up a campaign
with the goal of increasing site

760
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,080
traffic, creators can choose
more specific outcomes like Book

761
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Now, Get Quote, or Contact Us.
The feature is currently

762
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,760
available on desktop.
And as a reminder, YouTube

763
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,720
Promote allows creators to run
ad campaigns directly from

764
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:45,800
YouTube or YouTube Studio
without using Google Ads to

765
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,320
boost subscribers, increase
video views, or drive website

766
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,440
visits, whether for shorts or
long form videos.

767
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,160
So I'm looking at the clock, we
only have about 4 minutes until

768
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,600
the top of the hour and I'm
looking at all the other stories

769
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,200
that we have to go and it's been
there more than 4 minute or so.

770
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,280
We're going to wrap it up early.
I'm going to give you 4 minutes

771
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000
of your day.
Back to you and I hope you'll be

772
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,880
with us tomorrow.
And until then, have a great day

773
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,600
everyone.
Bye bye.