333 - How a Simple Yes Can Open Big Doors

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Good morning podcasting morning
Chat.

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Today is Thursday, July 3rd,
2025, and today we're unpacking

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the power of saying yes, even
when it's scary, a little weird,

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unconventional, and how that one
decision can shape your entire

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creative journey.
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Thanks for being here.

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Good morning again podcasting
morning chat.

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Thank you for being here.
I am your host, Mark Ronick, and

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on stage with me is a bunch of
confused Co hosts.

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Lots of confused Co hosts
because yes, yours truly forgot

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to plug his phone in to the
soundboard this morning.

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I knew something was off when I
started and that's why I stopped

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and restarted.
For those of you listening live

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and yeah, so totally forgot and
that's why.

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And even when you restarted,
there was still something

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missing.
Yeah, it's because I didn't.

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I still didn't plug it in to my
phone.

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That's.
Yeah.

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So there you go.
A little slip here today.

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So on stage with me Currently we
have producer Ashley Feller, Dr.

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Faye and Sid Meadows.
I know Amanda Sharp will be

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joining us shortly.
I know that Nick Naulback will

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maybe join us in a little bit.
I think he's stuck in a meeting,

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believe it or not, this early in
the morning.

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And I'm hoping Jonathan Howard
will be joining us as well,

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'cause I know he had a thing or
two to share on this topic of

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saying yes, and we'll get to
that in a second.

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Let's have a moment of fun.
This is something I got to make

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sure now that everything is
working properly because I don't

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want the annoyance again.
OK, so I don't know if anybody

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remembers this, but I've seen it
starting to pop up again on

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TikTok.
This is something I'm telling

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you, years old.
But again, I guess it's kind of

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come back around because it's
been so long since it was a

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thing.
Does anybody don't say it, but

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just tell me yes or no?
I guess for those of you who are

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on stage, do you remember the
green needle brainstorm audio

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thing?
That's all I'm going to call it

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for now.
OK, Sid says no, Ashley says no,

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and Dr. says no.
And so does some people in the

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audience as well.
OK, good.

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Well then it's new to you as
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First, I'm just going to play
this and I'm going to play this

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for Sid.
Sid, you can come off.

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Mike, good morning to you.
I'm going to play this to you.

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And I want you to tell me if you
hear.

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You have to hear.
It's it's a little bit like a a

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little freaky voice, but tell me
if you hear the word brainstorm.

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OK, Brainstorm.
Here we go.

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I'm going to play it for you,
Sid.

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OK, Did you hear that, Sid?
And did you hear Brainstorm?

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I did not hear the word
brainstorm.

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What did you hear?
Anything.

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I heard like some almost like a
Martian trying to say something,

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right?
Like a alien trying to say

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something, but I could not make
out what it what it was.

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So I, I, that's what I heard.
So that's not like a Martian or

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space alien.
OK, OK.

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All right, let me go to it.
Could just be the audio issue

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because it's not and I think
it's intended not to be super

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crystal clear.
Ashley, I'm going to play it for

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you.
Tell me if you hear Brainstorm,

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OK?
Did you hear that?

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You.
There's that sound effect and

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then you can hear a voice.
Did you hear it?

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Yes, the syllables towards the
end.

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OK, It looks like your mic is
cutting out on you.

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It looks like it's muting you.
Dr. Did you hear it?

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I heard it.
I didn't hear it the first time

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when you played it for Sid, but
I heard a little bit of it when

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you played it for Ashley.
And that could be kind of a mind

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thing that I was really
listening for it and maybe I

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purposely subconsciously put
that there.

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Do you know what I'm saying?
OK, tell me then.

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I'm going to play it for you
again, Dr. And tell me this time

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I'm going to play it for you.
Tell me if you hear the words

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green needle.
OK?

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So listen for that little whoosh
sound effect, and then you're

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going to hear the deep voice say
green needle.

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Tell me if you do, and I'm going
to explain why I'm doing this.

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OK?
Did you hear it?

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I did hear it.
OK, now.

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I did too.
OK.

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And Sid heard it this time too.
Interesting.

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OK.
But I heard, I heard green

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needle.
I did not hear brainstorm but it

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might be because I was like I
turned the way up and I was

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intently listening for someone
to say green noodle so could

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also.
Be.

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And also, I think the number of
syllables makes a difference

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because it might take you one
syllable for you to get into,

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just like an accent, a strong
like Italian accent.

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I have to hear a little bit more
before I can really get into the

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rhythm of it, you know what I'm
saying?

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Yeah.
Did anyone hear Brainstorm when

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we played it as Brainstorm?
OK, Ashley heard when I asked

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her if I was playing Brainstorm.
Yes.

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A little bit when you did it for
Ashley I.

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Did.
OK.

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Amanda, did you have a question
or were you just raising your

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hand saying you heard?
I was saying I heard brainstorm.

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OK, now I'm just going to play
this and I'm going to go to you,

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Amanda, for a second.
I'm going to play this again,

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and this time I just wanted you
to tell me what word you heard

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of the two.
OK, here we go.

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OK, so brainstorm Green needle,
which one did you hear?

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I'm still hearing brainstorm
throughout the whole thing.

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Me too.
OK, now I'm going to play it

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once more and I want to Oh,
wait, Sid, you have a thumbs

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down.
What did you hear?

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I.
Heard green needle.

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Yeah, OK, That was what I'm
getting, what I was going for.

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That's the big build up.
I am playing the same exact

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sound bite for all of you.
I am not changing from a

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brainstorm sound to a green
needle sound.

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It is the exact same sound bite.
And for whatever reason, when

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you hear, when you're told or
read the word, then you hear it.

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OK, so again, if I say you're
going to hear brainstorm,

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brainstorm, everybody think
brainstorm.

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Did anyone hear?
Did you hear Brainstorm?

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I did that time.
Yeah, that's so freaky.

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Amanda, what were you going to
say?

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I saw you came off, Mike.
I was going to say I just hear

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brainstorm in every version.
OK, Amanda.

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I've never heard brain needle.
Stay, stay.

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Keep your mic open.
Think green needle.

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I want you to think the words
green needle, green needle,

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green needle.
OK.

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It is still brainstormed.
OK, and that happens to some

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people sometimes.
Did anyone else hear green

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needle when I?
I heard green needle.

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Yeah, Oh my God.
So if you remember back in the

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day, there was the whole blue,
blue dress and white and gold

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dress.
This is the audio version of

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that.
There's an and I asked ChatGPT

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to explain why.
What is this doing?

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Let's see here if I can give you
some kind of answer.

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Well, it basically just says
it's explaining it here.

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It's saying depending on what
your mind expects or focus on,

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that's the word that you hear.
Your brain influences what you

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hear.
If you read or think brainstorm,

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that's likely what you'll
perceive.

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Likewise for green needle.
So yeah, I just, you know, I

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felt like let's play a little
audio bite today and have a

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little fun leading into the
holiday.

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And yeah, the, it's, I'm so
surprised to see this come back

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around 'cause I did, we had a
whole thing about this on my

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podcast, I want to say probably
7 years ago or something like

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that about this very thing,
'cause it was driving us all

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crazy.
And I can't really explain to

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you why it does that.
It's just it's it's a thing.

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So with that, thank you for
playing along.

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Just wanted to play that little
game with you and I will share

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with you a link to that.
I'll put that here in the chat.

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Although it's telling me
something went wrong, so I'm not

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sure why.
I will share it in the show

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notes today.
If you want to try this and play

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along, play along with your
friends and family.

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It's a fun game and it does
drive some people absolutely

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crazy because they don't
understand, like Amanda.

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Some people just hear that same
word over and over and over

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again no matter what you tell
them.

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But then there are other people
that all you have to do is focus

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on one or the other and that's
what you hear.

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It's really mind blowing.
So I have a question, OK, In

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your analysis of this, when you
were doing your podcast years

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ago, have you ever done this
without telling people what word

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to hear so that they can then
tell you what word they hear?

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Yes, I have done that before and
you should have done that today

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too.
But no, I I didn't do that.

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Great idea.
Maybe if we have someone new to

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the room that joins us, we'll
play for them during the show

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today.
So with that, now let's shift

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gears, shall we?
This is the back story of

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today's topic.
Last week we talked about Steve

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from Blue's Clues launching a
podcast, all the buzz around it,

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his social media explosion that
he had a few years ago, and

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still killing it today with his
listening back videos.

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But Amanda messaged me after
that show on Thursday, last

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Thursday, and she was pointing
out to me how imagine the guts

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that it took to become the
Blue's Clues guy as an adult.

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And at the time he was my age.
He is my age.

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So at the time, you know, he was
the age of probably a lot of the

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dads that were watching these
shit these shows with their

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kids, right?
So he was even a little older is

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the point.
And I remember Amanda pointing

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out that she thought maybe he
was a little older too, so that

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he could have gotten maybe
gotten a little slack from his

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friends and family about being
the Blues Clues guys guy.

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Even though sure, we all now
look at back at that as that was

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a pretty nice gig.
But he was the first, first host

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of that show and no one knew
whether it was going to be a

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thing, right?
So that was a risk that he took.

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She was saying how she bets that
his peers probably poked a lot

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of fun at him too.
But saying yes to that show and

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sticking with it and sticking
with what he had gone through

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after Blue's Clues 'cause he had
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It really set him up for some
cool stuff.

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Now that he's doing the social
media now, a podcast coming this

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fall that looks like it's going
to be very well received based

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on the feedback that he's
received on social media and

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YouTube.
He's now getting to call the

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shots right on the content that
he's making on the career he

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wants to have and he's getting
to connect with his community in

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his own way.
So I'd like for us today to look

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back.
What did you say yes to that led

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you, ideally LED you to
podcasting, content creation, or

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maybe even changed your whole
career?

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If you hadn't said yes, where do
you think you'd be now?

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That's where I want to go today.
And if you want, well, does

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anyone want?
I'm happy to share.

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I have several examples, and we
might even play around with what

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you've said no to as well.
But OK.

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Yeah, this seems appropriate
since Amanda kind of inspired

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the conversation.
Let's go to Amanda first.

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What's 1 Yes from your past that
completely changed your path,

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Amanda?
So I've went round and round and

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back and forth and all the
things about this topic, and I

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think it's going to be evolving.
But if I go back to 1 anchor one

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star of of me as an adult, it
was saying yes to being Marcus's

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girlfriend, which led to so
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I mean, I've spent more of my
life with him than without him

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at this point.
And he's just been such a great

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sounding board for me at with.
He seldomly tells me no, but if

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he tells me no, like I know
there's a really good reason for

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it, but he's so like supportive
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And so there can be some like
more surface level ones that I

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can say if I wouldn't have did
this or that, you know, I

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wouldn't have got this door
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But if I really go back to the
core, he is my core when it

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comes to being able to have said
yes to so many things in life.

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And so I think that's just where
I got to start.

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Of course I have others, but
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important here for me.
I hope Marcus gets to hear that.

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By the way, he won't.
He's he.

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He'll think that's stupid.
I hope not is I would love that

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if my wife says that about me.
Like stop being stupid, Amanda.

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Wow.
I exaggerate because that's what

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I do.
But yeah, he's, he's not going

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to, he won't.
He wouldn't receive that as well

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as probably what you would mark.
But yeah, I truly, I think he,

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the Lord gave me as him as my
anchor, because God only knows

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where I'd be if he wasn't like
my, my, my grounding point in

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this world.
So that's my answer.

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OK, that's cool.
And I'm going to ask you to now

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play along again when it comes
to podcasting.

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I know some of your story and I
don't know like a lot of the

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intricate details because your
pod, you started podcasting

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before we connected.
And I know that you were on

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Clubhouse 1st and made a
connection with Chris and then

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you guys started podcasting.
So was there a moment like that

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here, a yes moment that maybe
you hesitated on, you know,

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before you, you know, started
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I wouldn't.
So I knew Clubhouse was where I

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needed to go.
I desperately wanted to get that

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invitation so I could get on
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Because back in the day, you
know, you need that invite and

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you could only invite so many
people a day.

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I mean, it's so smart on their
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this app?
And so I just dove into it

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trying to figure it out, and I
landed in Pedro's room

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podcasting morning chat way back
in the day.

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Started coming on stage and
doing a little talking here and

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there.
And then I guess my guess would

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be he asked me to become one of
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that, which then I feel like
open the door to so many things.

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I would have no idea that I
would have been leading rooms

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for like 2 1/2 hours a day
Monday through Friday for a year

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or so straight.
So much fun.

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But it was during COVID so we
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little more.
We were all at home and thank

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God that something like this
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And just because I said yes to
that, it kept me in that space

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to me so many amazing
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everyone of you.
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Pedro to be a moderator when I
had no idea what I was doing in

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in Clubhouse, but also
podcasting really changed the

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trajectory for me as at least a
podcaster.

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Yeah, I'm guessing you wouldn't
have started a podcast with

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Chris if it hadn't been for
saying yes to Clubhouse.

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We would.
I would have been shocked if our

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lives would have crossed paths
otherwise.

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I mean we why would they have?
We've only met in person one

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time.
Right.

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And we've been podcasting
together for almost five years.

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So it's something that I think
it's safe to say that had I not

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said that, yes, I mean, Chris
and I's podcast and friendship

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just would never have existed.
I think it's funny that I've

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actually spent more time with
Chris in person than we do.

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I think a lot of people on stage
have.

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Yeah, I think I've spent the
most since I knew him before all

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this, which is really kind of
ironic because I remember when

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he started the podcast with you,
it was so funny, even when you

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look back at it now.
I saw him at a network because

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he used to network a lot in
person a lot.

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And he was talking about this
podcast and then all the things

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like, yeah, I podcast with this
person from Michigan, and I'm

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like, OK, that sounds really
random.

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And he didn't bring up
Clubhouse.

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I'm just so happy that I
actually got to be part of that.

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Looking back at it now, it's
just kind of funny.

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Thank you, Alex.
Yeah, it is cool when you look

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back and see just like you had
no idea what was happening in

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that moment.
And then looking back at it,

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it's like, wow, OK.
And then here Alex is in the

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room here on Clubhouse.
And I guess, Alex, that's how

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you found us, right?
It was it through Chris.

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Absolutely not.
So I was similar to Amanda where

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I want to get an invitation to
clubhouse just because it was

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the new cool thing and I got an
invitation from somebody that I

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don't, you know, speak with.
And The funny thing was I

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started going on the reason even
I didn't go on the clubhouse at

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all for like months and months
and months.

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And then there was a keto
convention in Orlando and well,

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that ran it were a clubhouse
group.

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That's how I really started
going on a clubhouse.

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And I only went to that.
And then I started seeing other

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things, and then I found you
guys and the rest of history.

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That's funny.
Yeah.

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There you go.
Interesting.

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All right, so how about anybody
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Let's dig into your journeys.
What's 1?

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Yes.
From your past.

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That changed your path.
Sid, I'm going to come to you.

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Go for it.
Good morning again.

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Good morning, everybody.
So I have a little bit of a,

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what's called a domino impact
with this, right?

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OK.
So I said yes to in 2017 to

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quitting my corporate job after
10 years with the same company.

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Then I said yes to starting my
own business.

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Then I got told no in 2020 to I
didn't say no, but I was told no

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to receiving the PPP money
right, Which then led me to say

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yes to podcasting.
Which led me to say yes to

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writing for an industry
magazine.

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I can't imagine if those moments
in my life had not happened,

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that I had not said yes to doing
something, that I was terrified.

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I was terrified to write for
industry magazine.

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Like terrified.
I was terrified to hit record

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right the first time for my
podcast.

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And I think what that did is it
gave me a voice that I didn't

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know I had.
He gave me a voice that I didn't

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know people wanted to listen to
and it allowed me to be known in

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an industry that I love, doing
things that I love, which is

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helping and supporting people.
So for me, the yeses have had a

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compound affected impact.
Thank you, Sid.

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And OK, so one thing you said
there I really want to dig into

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for a second, if you don't mind.
You know, you, you, you pointed

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out that you were terrified to
write for the magazine.

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You were terrified to press
record.

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What made you say yes to to an
anyway to any of this?

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So when I got asked to write for
the industry magazine, it was

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during an interview when he was
interviewing me to do a feature

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article on me for the magazine.
When he asked me the question, I

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was like, what?
I I don't write.

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I've never written anything.
But I knew that I couldn't say

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no to it, right?
Because that big industry icon

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slash influencer slash voice in
the industry just asked me to

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write for most popular magazine
in the industry, right?

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So, but I was terrified because
I'd never written.

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I'd never written an article
before right now it just is

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second nature to me and I'd
never put my thoughts like that

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on paper.
So I was, yes, I was terrified

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to actually step out of that
comfort zone of hiding behind my

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computer screen and putting my
voice out there.

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And that's the same thing with
the podcasting, right?

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Hey, I didn't know what I was
doing.

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Whatever I learned, I learned
from YouTube, right?

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And this was before I found this
community, right?

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I didn't really know, other than
listening to podcasting, I

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didn't really know what I needed
to do to be a podcaster.

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But imagine, had I not said yes
to that, I wouldn't be getting

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ready for season 7.
I wouldn't have found my voice.

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I wouldn't have been able to
share.

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We think so, yeah.
I was absolutely terrified.

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And I think the fear of things
sometimes is what pushes us to

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say yes to something that feels
really daunting or intimidating

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at the time.
And both writing and podcasting

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felt that way at the time.
Yeah.

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Thank you for digging into that
more.

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And it's interesting to me
because, yeah, there are times

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that fear will absolutely push
us into saying yes.

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And there are times that fear
holds his back.

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And probably I'm going to go out
on a limb and say for a lot of

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us, it holds us back when we're
scared, you know, and I know

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we've shared, and Stacy has
shared it many times here on

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this show, that she was
terrified to even take the

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equipment out-of-the-box and get
started.

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And I think she said it sat
there for probably a year.

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And I've shared, I've had a
client do almost the same thing,

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hired me in whatever, hired me
in November.

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And it took her nine months to
actually return my calls, return

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my texts.
She literally paid me to launch

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her podcast and then ghosted me
for nine months because she was

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terrified.
And that's why I think it's

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important for us to have this
conversation today to, to talk

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about those times that, yeah,
maybe we were still, we were

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scared, but we still said yes
anyway.

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And then focus on what did that
lead to?

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And I see we have more people on
stage perhaps interested in

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sharing.
And I will go to you in a

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second.
But this like this makes me,

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inspires me to share a little
bit of one of my yeses.

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It's my yes to podcasting 20
plus years ago.

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And at that time, my obsession
obviously wasn't podcasting.

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It was fantasy football.
And I know I've shared some of

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this before with you.
So if you've heard it before,

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bear with me because we've got a
lot of new listeners and some

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people may have forgotten the
story.

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You know, back in the day, I was
thinking about this when I was

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thinking of my answer back in
the day, being on message boards

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in the early days of the
Internet, you were kind of

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laughed at.
You know, we were talking about

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Amanda's inspiration, thinking
about how Steve from Blue's

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Clues was probably made fun of
by his friends initially when he

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was doing Blue's Clues, being on
message boards, geeking out on

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message boards.
That's just it is people would

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think you were a geek, loser, a
nerd, whatever, but people would

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kind of tease about that.
Or you're at least you would.

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I would keep it to myself.
And I was on a lot of those

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fantasy football message boards
trying to get the edge, trying

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to win my fantasy league.
And much like Clubhouse, I

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started meeting people and
connecting with people.

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And one of the people that I
really connected with, his name

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was Keith Hoffman.
And I, I'm thinking in my head

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here, I'm pausing because I'm
thinking he's kind of like the

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Nick equivalent, right?
Like Nick and I went on, have

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gone on since meeting here and
done projects together,

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collaborated on things.
And that's kind of the same with

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this guy Keith.
We met on a message board, and I

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think that message board still
exists today.

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Believe it or not.
FF Today is the website he

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started telling me about
podcasting.

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Among all the advice back and
forth we were giving each other

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about fantasy football, he was
telling me about podcasting in

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that he would gather a lot of
his information, his fantasy

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football advice from podcasts,
which I had no clue about at the

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time.
And so he started recommending

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podcasts to me talking about
fantasy football and I was

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getting really into them.
And he suggested that we do a

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podcast.
And I loved the idea of it.

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I've shared with you, I've had
this passion for talk radio in

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since I was a teenager.
I love the idea, but I had no

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idea what to do, no idea how to
do it.

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And it was a lot different back
then.

450
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,680
I couldn't go to YouTube and get
a video on how to start a

451
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,320
podcast.
I didn't have Chat GPTI, didn't

452
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,360
have podcast coaches and
producers like myself that were

453
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,840
available to me.
But he insisted that he knew how

454
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,800
we could do it.
He knew.

455
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,520
He said he knew what hardware to
get, what software to get, how

456
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,760
to do it remotely because he was
not local at the time.

457
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,440
And we did not have Riverside.
We did not have Zoom.

458
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,720
All we actually had at the time
was Skype, and even Skype had

459
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,960
its own challenges, not forget
connection because that was its

460
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560
own thing, but even Skype had
its challenges to make it work.

461
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,520
For a podcast to be able to
record it was great as as a two

462
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,680
way conversation, but recording
the conversation was really

463
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,800
challenging.
The tech really wasn't there yet

464
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,680
to do that, although we
eventually did find he did find

465
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,960
that software to make that work.
So I went through all of the

466
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,640
emotions from excitement, wow, I
can finally do my own talk show

467
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,920
to fear.
What are people going to think

468
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,440
about me?
What are people going to?

469
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,280
Are people going to accept me as
somebody to give them advice on

470
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,880
fantasy football?
How are they going to know me?

471
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,680
And that actually inspired me to
get a third Co host because I

472
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,440
wanted us to be more credible,
creditable, credible.

473
00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:00,040
I so I got a local sports radio
DJ to join us and he joined us

474
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,720
every week.
So I felt like, OK, now I got to

475
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,800
do this now.
So the fact that I had someone

476
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,000
who was confident in making this
happen, I had I was confident

477
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,080
because I had somebody who
really knew what they were

478
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,920
talking about in the world of
sports I was in.

479
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,040
I decided to dive in.
And had I let the fear win, I

480
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,000
would venture to say we may not
be sitting here together right

481
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,200
now.
I don't know if I would have.

482
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,920
Maybe down the road if I was
introduced to podcasting, maybe,

483
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,480
But who knows?
Because at the time the passion

484
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,040
was fantasy football.
I loved talking about it.

485
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,600
But maybe down the road maybe
that wouldn't have even clicked

486
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,280
as being something I would want
to talk about.

487
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Who knows where I'd be.
So saying yes to doing that

488
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:52,160
first podcast 2020 some years
ago has led me to where we are

489
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,360
today, has led me to this, this
community, all the things that

490
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,000
we do together.
It's pretty amazing when I stop

491
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
and look back at that.
OK, I'd love to hear from

492
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,520
somebody else, something that
you've said yes to.

493
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,680
Also, looking back, is there
something that you wish you had

494
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,960
said yes to sooner or maybe said
yes to at all that you didn't?

495
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,440
So start thinking about that
too.

496
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,120
It doesn't always your your
answer doesn't have to be what

497
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,000
you said yes to that leads you
to today.

498
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,480
It could be maybe yoga.
Regretful yes.

499
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,960
Ashley, did you want to share
what you said yes to that led

500
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,240
you to where you are today?
Sure.

501
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Thank you and and happy birthday
to Mike Dad in the audience.

502
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Oh, happy birthday, Mike.
Yeah.

503
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,320
So something that I said yes to
that has changed my life is

504
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,440
accepting that I could do
something else in my career

505
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,960
other than music.
I know I've shared this before,

506
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,480
but I had so much of my identity
wrapped up in being a musician,

507
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,440
being a songwriter, being in
that grind that I really thought

508
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640
like, this is it.
This is all I'm ever going to do

509
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,360
is just, you know, play these
little shows and maybe progress

510
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,720
to bigger shows someday, which
is really hard.

511
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,880
And then COVID happened and
another yes, that was really

512
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,600
important was I said yes to
Apple because up until COVID, I

513
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,320
was an Android user and I heard
about Clubhouse through TikTok

514
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,800
and I heard about all the great
rooms that were happening here.

515
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,800
And I had an invite, but at the
time you had to have an iPhone

516
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,000
to use that invite.
So it was very frustrating.

517
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Had the invite, but I couldn't
get in.

518
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,760
So I bought an iPhone so that I
could get into Clubhouse, which

519
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,280
landed me here.
And, you know, just the things

520
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,840
that I've learned from this room
have deeply fed into, you know,

521
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,920
all the different things that I
do now.

522
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Marketing, podcast production,
managing private communities for

523
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,040
songwriters on Patreon.
I'm forever grateful for saying

524
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,960
yes to Apple and this room and
Clubhouse and of course, music.

525
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,520
So that's all I got.
Thank you.

526
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Wow, so you're telling me Dr.
might have gotten an iPhone if

527
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,800
she would have discovered
Clubhouse earlier?

528
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Oh hell no.
Oh, you Android people.

529
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,560
No, I'm just kidding.
I know.

530
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,840
Droid Noids to the to the end,
I'm telling you.

531
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,120
Droid noids unite.
Yes, and I know us Apple people

532
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,480
are just as annoying.
Trust me, I get it.

533
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,520
That's awesome, Ashley, Thank
you.

534
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,560
I appreciate you sharing that
and and being creative with your

535
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,360
answer too, right.
It's like, yeah, even saying yes

536
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,800
to a new device can lead us to
crazy new opportunities, new

537
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800
things and ones that we wouldn't
expect.

538
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Who knew that the iPhone would
lead you to all of the success

539
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,680
that you've had in podcasting,
the being able to create a

540
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,800
business out of it just by
buying an iPhone all five years

541
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800
ago.
It's pretty awesome.

542
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,360
Let's keep it going.
And again, I'm very curious.

543
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,400
Oh, Alexandra wants to to check.
And I'm curious also with those

544
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,120
of you that may have the answer
of something you wish you had

545
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,200
said yes to sooner.
But Alexandra, I'm curious for

546
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,160
your answer too.
What's something that you said

547
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,400
yes to that led you to where you
are today?

548
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,320
Good morning.
Morning.

549
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360
So we're taking a slightly
different direction, especially

550
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,560
since Dominic is on the stage.
And last month I believe was

551
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,320
maybe it was May was women's
mental health month and then I

552
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,360
know that June I believe was
men's mental health awareness

553
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,800
month.
But one thing I said yes to that

554
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,040
that definitely changed my life
was back in 2018, I was at rock

555
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:47,040
bottom mentally and emotionally.
But my doctor simply said, you

556
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,680
need someone or something that
is entirely focused on you.

557
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,960
And I said, well, good luck
finding that thing.

558
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,480
And he said, well, why don't you
get a dog?

559
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440
And I said, have you met my
mother?

560
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200
She's already said no more
animals.

561
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,160
And since it's her roof and her
mortgage, I have to listen to

562
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,520
her.
And he said, well, I can write

563
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,880
you a prescription for an
emotional support animal, and

564
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,400
then your mom can't say no.
And I said, again, have you met

565
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,400
my mother?
So he then called her and he

566
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,680
said, I think that Noel needs a
dog or she needs a pet, someone

567
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880
that loves her, whose whole
world revolves around her.

568
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,080
You could hear the resignation
in my mom's voice.

569
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,320
But she was like, fine.
So I went to young Williams and

570
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,960
I found Samson.
He was like the 8th or not.

571
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,720
Because the thing was we went,
we were just supposed to look,

572
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,880
we were supposed to actually get
a dog that day.

573
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,920
But Samson said Nope, I'm coming
home with you because I went to

574
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,880
he was, I guess he was like the
8th or 9th dog we'd seen that

575
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,120
day and I had to use the
bathroom.

576
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,960
So I left and my mom said he
stood at the door and cried

577
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,160
until I came back.
Wow.

578
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,239
So my sister has always joked
since I brought him home, she's

579
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,400
like, you would be the one
person who goes to get an

580
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,719
emotional support dog that needs
emotional support.

581
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:25,040
But all my darkest days that
I've had since I've had him, I

582
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,600
have to remember this dog needs
me because I have other aspects

583
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,600
of my world, but I am his world
because when I leave, even if my

584
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,960
mom is home, she's not me.
And I didn't realize how much I

585
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,600
needed something or someone who
I was the one that made their

586
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,400
day better just simply by
existing.

587
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,679
And that's I like just as you
finished, I heard a little a

588
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,480
little wine in the background by
the dog.

589
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,880
That's beautiful.
Thank you, Alexandra.

590
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,440
Thank you for sharing that.
And I'm glad that you you found

591
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,800
something that has helped you
through some some of those dark

592
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,840
times that you mentioned.
I see Amanda wants to chime in

593
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,800
as well.
Go ahead, Amanda.

594
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,640
This is very off topic,
Alexandra, but have you watched

595
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Mama Duke on America's Got
Talent?

596
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,880
Have you seen clips of her?
I have not.

597
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Oh my gosh, you have every time
I see a clip, I'm like, that is

598
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,760
you.
So I say that with she's amazing

599
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,520
and you can tell she's a story
writer and the way she presented

600
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,440
her song was just so fabulous.
So look up Mama Duke and you

601
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,600
will be blown away.
And just know that's how I see

602
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,320
your spirit.
Like it's I mean it to be the

603
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680
best compliment ever.
OK.

604
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Nice.
All right.

605
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,920
Well, now I don't know about
everyone else, but I'm curious

606
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,360
and all right, well, thank you
again.

607
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Alexandra and Dominic, did you
want to?

608
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,160
Did you want to chime in as
well?

609
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,560
I was going to go next.
Oh good.

610
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,400
Well then, yeah, please take it
away.

611
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,800
Definitely appreciate it your
share, Alexandra.

612
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,880
I was working on the car really
quick as I couldn't hard it.

613
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,240
So I just want to let you know
you were seeing in that moment.

614
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,840
Honestly, there's two and I'll
make them brief.

615
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:14,760
It's December of 2019 and I
reach out to the Co founder of

616
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,320
Netflix to have him on the start
of life, my business show.

617
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,680
And so reach out to him.
He says yes, no problem, let's

618
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,440
do it.
But I had to go through his

619
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,520
handlers, right?
It's like whoa, wait a minute,

620
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,800
you know, what's your numbers?
What's that looking like what's

621
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,080
your reach, blah blah blah.
And I'll share them with him to

622
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,680
say, OK, well, you're not really
there yet, but once you get

623
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,720
there, let us know.
And I was like, wow, man, how

624
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,480
can I can I, you know, boost
this really quickly because I

625
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,080
don't want to, you know, lose
the no or lose the not right now

626
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960
or something like that.
And so I was like, you know

627
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,720
what, let's put the podcast on
radio, but where would I go?

628
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,720
Like how I keep the show on
radio?

629
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,880
And there was a local AM station
here that had a slot open.

630
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,640
And The thing is that it was pay
to play.

631
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Like you had to pay for the air
time to get on air.

632
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,120
And it was not cheap at all,
like at all.

633
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Me and Kendall had to have a
long conversation about what

634
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,360
that was going to look like, pay
for it, all the things right.

635
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,000
And so we also decided, you know
what, let's do it.

636
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,800
So you know, put down the
deposit, book the airtime and it

637
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,520
was a really good slot because
the show would be the local lead

638
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,600
in to Dave Ramsey.
So you can really ask for a

639
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:38,160
better time slot if you ask me.
So got on there, booked the Co

640
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,680
founder of Netflix.
And from there things just

641
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,600
really kind of took off
honestly.

642
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,920
But remember, this leads me to
the second one.

643
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,160
Remember this was December of
2019.

644
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,880
So three months later COVID
happens and you know, everybody

645
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,760
and their mom and their cat and
the dog got in the podcasting.

646
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,360
And so after a while, at least
to me, I was like, well,

647
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,760
everybody's kind of sound of the
same little bit, not in the

648
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,520
sound of the same sense of the
same, you know, whatever.

649
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,320
Just more like talking points,
right?

650
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,840
And so it's like, if I'm going
to stand out in this industry,

651
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,360
by this time, I have been in the
game, what, 3 1/2 years now?

652
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,800
I got to do something different.
And then I heard a podcast, Pin

653
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Kings from ESPN.
It was, it was narrative, right?

654
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,080
I was like, this is interesting.
I wonder if I could do something

655
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,200
like that.
So I took a business concept, I

656
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,160
would think I talked about Nike,
and I just made it a completely

657
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,280
narrative show as opposed to an
interview show.

658
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,280
And from there I switched my
complete style from interview

659
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,520
style to narrative style, and
the rest is, as they say,

660
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840
history.
Thank you, Dominic.

661
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,520
So the first story you shared, I
say this half kiddingly, the yes

662
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,880
that was spoken, the yes that
was said, was Kendas saying yes

663
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,040
to you spending the money on the
radio.

664
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320
Correct.
It wasn't even my yes.

665
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,640
Yeah, I love it.
And by the way, when you were

666
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,680
just sharing about the Nike
aspect of it, it just clicked in

667
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,200
my head.
I don't know if you've seen this

668
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,520
yet, Dominic.
I feel like you'd enjoy it based

669
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,120
on what I know about you and
what you just shared.

670
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,240
Have you seen on Netflix that
Shaquille O'Neal has a series of

671
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:34,840
basically how he he is going to
revive Reebok?

672
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,040
Have you seen that?
I have not.

673
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,800
I would definitely be interested
in that.

674
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Yeah, basically he became, I
guess he's president of the

675
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,360
company now and.
Allen, I know he has a position

676
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,560
there.
For sure, yeah.

677
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,000
He and him and Albert, Him and
Iverson.

678
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,680
Yeah, Allen Iverson.
It bought the interests in

679
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,880
Reebok from Adidas and they're
trying to recreate the brand and

680
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,000
it's like a 5 or 6 part series
how they get their athletes.

681
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,880
It's very neat.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to

682
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,080
jump.
And it's just, no, that's great.

683
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:14,160
It's a really interesting way of
he's interesting because he

684
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,560
shows how he does his business
and his whole model is he finds

685
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,360
the best people and attaches his
name to it and he doesn't want

686
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,360
to.
Not that he doesn't want to do

687
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,080
the work, it's just that he
wants to have the best people do

688
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,760
the work with him.
And whatever.

689
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,680
But what's very interesting
about it is that, you know, he's

690
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,720
a big name.
He he does what he does.

691
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:40,040
But now that he's starting over
with the shoe company, he's back

692
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,240
on the bottom in terms of trying
to get the the players and

693
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,240
everything else.
Because it's definitely brand

694
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:49,880
awareness.
Yeah, lot, lot, lot to learn.

695
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,960
Yeah, he kind of spoke about
that a little bit where he, you

696
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,360
know, kind of goes into this
whole thing thinking, well, I'm

697
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Shaquille O'Neal and everyone's
going to listen to me.

698
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,560
I got, I got, you know, I got
clout.

699
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,640
I got a name.
And he found that it was almost

700
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:11,080
as challenging for him to land
these player deals and doing the

701
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,480
business that he does, the
networking that he does.

702
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,240
He found it.
It's very challenging.

703
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:19,000
Still, regardless of his name.
It's a great show.

704
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,160
I enjoyed the first episode.
Go ahead, Dominic.

705
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,640
No, I was just going to say I, I
appreciate that and I'll

706
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,400
definitely check it out.
But I think that also shares a

707
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560
lesson.
I'll say it really quickly and

708
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,920
move on.
But they're like, I, I think

709
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,320
sometimes we think in podcasting
that celebrities have like an

710
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,800
upper hand, which they do.
Let me be very clear.

711
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,920
But I think stuff like that and
Tracee Ellis Ross, you know,

712
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,560
trying to get patterns off the
ground.

713
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,320
Her, she's an actress.
For those who don't know who she

714
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,560
is, she has a hair care line,
right?

715
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,760
That definitely caters to women,
but she makes some products for

716
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,760
men as well.
Anyway, she talked about 10

717
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,800
years trying to get it off the
ground and she thought her name

718
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,960
was guy get her through doors
and she's actually had to do the

719
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,360
work.
So I think that's a great lesson

720
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,600
for podcasters.
Like, listen, even though

721
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,480
celebrities do have an upper
hand, there's still some work to

722
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,280
be involved, so it's not exactly
just this swinging open door for

723
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,040
them as well.
Yep, absolutely.

724
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,440
They still got to do the work to
get their show on the map.

725
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,240
And yet there may be some
elements that are easier for

726
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:21,320
them, but overall they're
starting from scratch just like

727
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,160
we are. 100% Sharon, welcome to
the stage again.

728
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Good to have you back.
Did you want to play along and

729
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,400
share something you said yes to
that led you to where you are

730
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,040
today?
Hello Mark, hello everyone.

731
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,840
This is an easy answer for me
and I often tell this story.

732
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:50,200
And 2013 I kept well before that
but 2013 was the pivotal year.

733
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,680
But I kept procrastinating on
showing up online because I was

734
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,480
afraid of people getting to know
me and being so visible.

735
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,960
So I started things and stopped.
And one day I was somewhere,

736
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,720
maybe in an airport, I don't
know.

737
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:11,160
It was a random person and we
were talking about life and

738
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,800
having small talk, which I'm not
crazy about sometimes, but

739
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,200
nevertheless this person said
why don't you start a blog?

740
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,080
I said, I've heard of blogs, but
I don't know too much about it,

741
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,800
too much about them.
And we started talking about it,

742
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,400
talking about blogs and, and I
started my original blog in

743
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,680
2013.
And I was even inconsistent with

744
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,160
that.
And I remember being at church

745
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,920
one day, I was serving in the
back.

746
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,040
And one person said she would
often tell me about my blog

747
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,040
because she would read it.
And she said to me one day, she

748
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,840
said, I read your blog.
And she said, you're not, you're

749
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,320
not that consistent, are you?
And it was such an innocent

750
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,680
question.
It was hilarious the way she

751
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,600
said it.
And I just busted out laughing.

752
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,200
And I was like, you know what?
You're, you're, you're so right.

753
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:05,400
I am not that consistent.
From then on, I was blogging

754
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,600
every day, even if it was a few
lines of text.

755
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,600
And that was a change for me
because they got me in the

756
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,080
mindset of how to show up
online.

757
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:25,160
And if I if I did not take on
that little Blogspot blog, I

758
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,760
would not be here today at all.
And Mark, I want to expand on

759
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,640
this a little bit more because
your next question was what is

760
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,080
that?
Yes, you wish you would have

761
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,520
done.
Yes, yeah.

762
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,000
You wish you would have said
said yes to, right.

763
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,440
OK.
I'm a teacher by trade and I was

764
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,960
at this teachers conference that
I was presenting and presenting

765
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,200
at.
It was about 2004 somewhere

766
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,760
around there.
And I would look at the teachers

767
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,520
who were presenting.
I would look at their materials

768
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,080
and I would say to myself this,
and no offense to anybody

769
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,400
personally, they did.
They were not great.

770
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:05,760
They weren't even good.
They were poor quality.

771
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,920
And I said to myself, I could do
better than this.

772
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:15,400
I can create things that I can
sell much better than this.

773
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,200
And I did not do it.
And I know if I would have done

774
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,360
it, I just know it in my Noah,
it would have been a game

775
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,520
changer.
So that was one of the things I

776
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,920
wish I would have said yes to.
Thanks, Mark.

777
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,760
Yeah, thank you for sharing both
stories, both powerful and I

778
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,520
really appreciate hearing them
and that second story too.

779
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,640
The question I kind of want to
ask and I feel like I I somewhat

780
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,560
know the answer, but to that one
that you wish you had said yes

781
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,280
to.
I mean, is that something that

782
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,880
you feel like now you are doing
or some or is it something that

783
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,040
you feel like you could be
doing, you could still do

784
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,200
something like that?
Great question.

785
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,640
I am doing all of the above.
When I say all of the above,

786
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,880
what that original service and
product led to.

787
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,720
So I'm doing all of it.
The only thing that's different

788
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,360
is my audience.
OK.

789
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,440
That makes sense.
Cool.

790
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,680
Thank you, Sharon, I appreciate
you sharing.

791
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,920
I think that's, and thank you
for heating the call there and,

792
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,760
and answering one of the
questions that you wish you had

793
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,960
said yes to.
I've yeah, I appreciate that.

794
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,800
I was going to share one that I
said no to.

795
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,320
And I don't believe I've ever
shared this part of my story

796
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,560
with you before.
And this goes back to the old

797
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,800
show that I used to work for
that I've referenced a few

798
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,000
times.
Actually, I think I even

799
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,360
referenced them this week, the
Mike O'Mara show.

800
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,360
And I'll preface and say no hard
feelings.

801
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,840
No shade here.
Sometimes things come to an end,

802
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,720
right?
And this was one of those

803
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,240
instances.
So I had been working for their

804
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:59,320
show for over three years and
helped build it into a big

805
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,800
financial success.
They brought me in there.

806
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Sure, I was part of the on air
team, but they really brought me

807
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,120
in there for the behind the
scenes stuff from both building

808
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,880
the business and helping with
producing.

809
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,360
There were they made me.
They didn't just hire me or

810
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,920
contract me out, they actually
made me a fifth partner.

811
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:26,200
There were 4-4 players in this
and all of them were both both

812
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,800
on the mic and all working
behind the scenes too.

813
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,560
But they brought me in after a
few months of being there with

814
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,360
them as a full full time
partner.

815
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:42,120
So it was five of us and Fast
forward three years or so later,

816
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,960
one of the partners decided to
leave.

817
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,280
They'd had enough, they wanted
to move on.

818
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,200
He actually had been with their
team when they were a radio team

819
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,800
for years prior.
So he it was just his time.

820
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:00,200
But that created a potential
opportunity for me to make more

821
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,720
money as a fourth partner
instead of 1/5 right.

822
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,800
We are now splitting the pot
four ways.

823
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:12,880
So I thought I was told shortly
after he left that I was no

824
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,200
longer going to be an equal
partner, that they wanted to

825
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,480
make me still.
I could still be a partner, but

826
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,240
not equal.
I would be getting less of the

827
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:26,200
pot, even though there was more
to share, by the way.

828
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,600
But that's OK, no shade.
And that didn't sit well with

829
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:37,520
me, especially because I really
believed that I made a a huge

830
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,160
impact on the success of that
show, not as the talent.

831
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,000
Yes, I did some stuff that
contributed to the content, but

832
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,720
I'm no fool.
I mean, these guys were the were

833
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,600
the talent of that particular
show.

834
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,040
And I still felt like I was a
big piece of that puzzle.

835
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,680
Regardless, this was a really my
dream gig at the time while I

836
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,320
was doing it.
It was an amazing experience.

837
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,240
I even had my own podcast, the
one I've referenced before, the

838
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:13,680
Mark and Lowell show, as part of
their network that I built for

839
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,600
them.
But my show is part of that

840
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,360
network.
I had a really good thing going

841
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,920
from the outside looking in.
And by the way, it was also good

842
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,680
money with the potential to be
even better.

843
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,080
We were still growing and we
were able to all make a living

844
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,360
out of it.
I can't say we we would have

845
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
been ready or close to ready to,
to retire.

846
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,640
It wasn't that kind of money,
but we were all able to make a

847
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,760
living out of it.
So I had that decision to make.

848
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:49,800
Do I take less of a percentage,
which could still end up being a

849
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,440
little bit more money because it
wasn't because the five people

850
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,880
weren't sharing the pot?
But do I do what I'm doing, get

851
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,680
this amazing, continue to get
this amazing experience out of

852
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,160
it, but take less money?
And by the way, also, it felt a

853
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,720
little degrading, right?
It's like here I was just as

854
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,120
much of A contributor to the
success as any one of the other

855
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,840
people were, but I was now told
I'm going to take less.

856
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,040
This was a, this was a real
challenge for me.

857
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,240
I didn't know what I wanted to
do.

858
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,960
I didn't want to walk away.
And ultimately, I decided, you

859
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,160
know, what, I value who I am.
I value what I've done here.

860
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,960
If they aren't valuing me the
way that I think that I should

861
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,080
be valued, then it's time for me
to go.

862
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,480
And that was really scary
because, you know, this, there

863
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,160
was there was this huge
audience.

864
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,680
And by the way, a lot of that
audience was following my show

865
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,560
too.
Like I said, we built a network

866
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,760
around this big show.
And I was worried, you know,

867
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,680
what was that going to mean for
our show?

868
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,800
Could I continue on?
Would I continue podcasting?

869
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,440
And ultimately I did say no and
decided, yeah, you know what, I

870
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,320
am going to keep podcasting and
decided I'm going to start a

871
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,120
network, a podcast network,
making my show kind of the

872
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,760
anchor of that network.
And I'm going to bring on other

873
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,560
podcasts and help those podcasts
grow.

874
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,040
And we can all help each other
grow as a network.

875
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,040
And that really looking back was
it was really the beginning of

876
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,400
me making a business out of
podcasting and specifically

877
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,480
helping other podcasters because
now I was giving a platform to

878
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,280
newer podcasters that wanted
help growing.

879
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,920
And I even created what I had
called, I think I called

880
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,160
something like podcasting
university or something like

881
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,400
that.
Within the network.

882
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,440
We would bring on shows that I
believed had potential and

883
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,760
needed some help.
And so we'd bring them into the

884
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,560
network, put them on the
network, and I would kind of

885
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,880
coach and help produce their
shows.

886
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:06,440
And I think had I not said no to
that revised contract, I don't

887
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,720
know if I would have been on
that path to helping other

888
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:14,280
podcasters and ultimately in
2020 starting my business or

889
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,040
2019, late 2019 starting my
business, producing podcasts and

890
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,400
consulting podcasters.
And that wouldn't have led me to

891
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:27,360
here and to this show and to
this amazing community.

892
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:32,760
So sometimes saying no is just
as powerful as saying yes to

893
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:38,280
something and can make a huge
impact, a positive impact on

894
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,120
your journey.
All right, well, thank you for

895
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,440
letting me share.
Anyone else want to share

896
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,440
anything?
Before we wrap up today, I have

897
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one more thing I want to say
about today.

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Well, here's what today's
conversation really reminds me

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of, and it's kind of speaking a
little more to what I was, what

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I was just saying here.
The biggest opportunities don't

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always look like it at 1st and
that they might feel a little

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uncomfortable, maybe even a
little scary.

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But with every, yes, especially
the ones that pull us out of our

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comfort zones, I think those are
the ones that can change the

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direction of our story.
And clearly we've proven that

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today because it's those small,
sometimes big, brave decisions

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that open the doors what we
never even knew were there.

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So whether you're thinking about
starting a podcast or just

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trying something new, something
creatively, remember that one

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simple yes, that could lead you
somewhere that you can't even

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imagine yet.
There is no way I would have

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imagined being here on
Clubhouse, being on YouTube

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Live, talking about podcasting
five days a week, building up a

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show that as of this week has
hit the Top 40 in how to

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Podcast, has been nominated for
two awards, has a big conference

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coming up in September that is
exists because of this

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community.
That next chapter of your

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journey might just be waiting
for you to say yes.

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So take a minute when you have
those new opportunities and

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really think about where some of
your other yeses or Nos have led

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you when you're making that new
decision for that new

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opportunity.
Okay gang, listen, tomorrow is

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the 4th of July and here in the
United States that's a holiday.

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We will be celebrating
Independence Day tomorrow.

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So we are off tomorrow and being
that we are in the summer

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schedule, we're also off on
Monday.

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So we are back Tuesday through
Friday next week, 7:00 AM

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Eastern Time.
Please join us live on

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Clubhouse, live on YouTube,
whatever works best for you, or

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do both.
Watch me and listen to Clubhouse

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while you're watching.
So until Tuesday, make it a

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great day.
Everybody.

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Take care.