328 - Is Streaming Harming the Planet? Podcast News & Industry Commentary

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Wednesday, June 25th,
2025, and today we're unpacking

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the latest podcasting headlines,
from new tools and trends to

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shifting platforms and policies.
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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again, podcasting,

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morning chat.
Thanks so much for being here.

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I am your host, Mark Ronic, and
on stage with me currently we

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have producer Ashley Feller,
Nick Nalback, Sid Meadows,

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Jonathan Howard and Dr. Fay.
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Thank you for being in on both
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Today we are covering the news
around the world of podcasting.

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Got a lot of cool stories to
share, including some from

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Authonic.
You've probably heard me talk

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about that before, especially if
you're a long time listener of

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the podcasting morning chat.
Authonic is an audio enhancement

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tool, and they've added some new
features.

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Also, Apple is requiring some
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I'll explain why as well.
And all sorts of other stuff,

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including a story Ashley's going
to share with us in a moment

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about Spotify's environmental
impact from video podcasts.

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So stick around for that.
Dr. is going to kick us off with

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a news story slash icebreaker.
It's a light story, but I think

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it's pretty interesting and I
thought we should jump into it.

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So Dr. Here, let me, I think
it's a let me give you the

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music.
It's a good social.

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Oh, thank you.
Yes.

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Got it.
Play the news music OK?

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Now go for it.
No ice.

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Break the music.
OK, so I thought this was a

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great social experiment and the
article is headlining as

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podcasts there.
What's for dinner and breakfast

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and lunch too.
So here's the story.

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Podcasts are officially on the
menu.

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New You Gov survey says almost
one in five US adults are now

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pairing podcasts with their
meals, 17% at breakfast, 18% at

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lunch and 16% at dinner.
Seems like all that scrolling

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that we do at meal time is
paying off for podcasters.

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TV still wins the popularity
contest at dinner which is 63%,

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but podcasts are gaining
traction, especially among

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younger folks and Black
listeners as well.

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Guys are turning in in more than
women during lunch.

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That would be 22% compared to
14%.

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And overall, quick breakfasts,
fast lunches, and family style

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dinners remain the norm with
dinner still being the favorite

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meal of the day.
So this article kind of made me

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take a look at my own habits,
habits kind of thing.

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And you know, my husband and I
have known each other since we

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were 12 years old.
We've lived together for the

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past over 20 years.
I.

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Didn't know you've known each
other that long?

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Yes, how?
Did OK I have to stop.

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How did you guys meet that?
Because I met my wife when I was

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a teenager.
So I'm curious, how did you guys

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meet?
Well, my mother was a comedian

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singer and she would travel
from, you know, lounge to lounge

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and sing and do her thing and
she would get this kind of

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following.
And in that following, there was

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a married couple and they became
kind of an the entourage kind of

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thing.
So the the man in that

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entourage, his name is Maurice.
This was his second marriage.

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His first marriage.
He was married and had two kids

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with that wife, and one of them
was Brian.

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So whenever Brian came to visit
his father during the summer

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time, we were both the same age.
And so we would naturally, you

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know, Oh, hi, Brian.
Hi, Dr. How are you?

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Blah, blah, blah, you know, that
kind of thing.

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So.
So that's how that's how it

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started.
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So anyway, what we do, we don't
eat together.

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We.
He goes in his man cave and

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watches his sports.
I'm in the living room and I'm

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I've got the TV turned on,
turned on to either Everybody

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Loves Raymond or the news, but I
am.

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Which, by the way, every
Everybody Loves Raymond still a

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great show, holds up really
well.

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So good, so good.
So I'm scrolling as well.

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I mean I'm triple timing it.
I'm eating, I'm watching TV and

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I'm scrolling as well.
So yeah, this has forced me to

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take a look at that.
So what is your, what is your

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setup like at home, Mark?
What do you do?

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For for podcasting and eating
specific.

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Well, for for eating
specifically, do you listen to?

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Yeah, we're usually, we're
usually music people.

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And my wife not too long ago
threw down the gauntlet that no

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phones during any part of
dinner, including prep.

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So when we're making didn't we
usually make dinner together?

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And I'm not going to lie, she
usually leads that charge.

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I just do what I'm told, but
together we do it.

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And she recently said, all
right, no more phones, admitting

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that she was just as guilty.
And we figured we can use those

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times to be in the moment
instead of focusing on the

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phone.
That said, we're usually playing

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a lot of music.
I feel like it would.

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It's actually, to me, it would
be really challenging to have a

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podcast on while at any meal
time with somebody else.

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If I'm by myself, sure, no
problem.

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But with somebody else, I feel
like I need to be more engaged

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in that person with that person
than staring at a screen or

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staring off into space listening
to a podcast.

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So yeah, for me, it's not part
of my eating habits.

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Yeah, it has become a big part
of my eating habit.

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Anyone.
Else, according to the art, I

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want to see if anybody else does
anybody else ever listen to

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podcasts or watch them during
meal time?

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Sid, Sid, go for it.
Good morning everybody, it's

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great to see you all.
No, I do not listen to podcasts

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well at meal time.
So at breakfast, I'm usually in

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front of my computer responding
to emails.

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At lunch, I'm binge watching
TikTok to step away from the

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crazy world of work, right?
And just get a total like

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disconnect there.
And at dinner when, during the

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summertime when the kid or kids
are home, we're having family

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dinner, the TV is on in the
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We're not necessarily watching
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We're catching up and having a
chat about our days and stuff

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like that.
So really not a lot of

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technology in our meal times,
especially podcast related.

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I listen to the podcast in the
morning on my walk or I just

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actually, as I was having
coffee, listen to 1.

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So, you know, I'm more of a
listener in my quiet time than I

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am when something else is
happening.

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Yeah, that's it.
Can let me ask you a question

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because you said breakfast,
you're at your computer.

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Do you have like a plate full of
breakfast and at your computer

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or do you have like one of those
handheld fast on the go

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breakfast and you're at your
computer?

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So my breakfast is usually like
yogurt or granola or something

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like that.
They are something relatively

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healthy with a little bit of
extra protein.

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Sometimes I have a smoothie,
right, that kind of stuff.

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So this morning I'm having, I
already know because my wife

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bought it yesterday at the
Cursor.

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I'm having cereal, my favorite
cereal.

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I was out of it.
And so I'm having cereal this

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morning.
I'm your favorite cereal, not

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Chocula.
Not Chocula.

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No, no.
No, you guys are going to roll

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your eyes at me.
It's by a brand called Purely

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Elizabeth and it's a granola
based really healthy cereal and

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I eat it with almond milk.
So it's a very boring,

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sugarless.
I really wanted it to be Captain

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Crunch, but OK.
I liked.

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Your maybe back in the day.
I liked your count Chocula

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reference reference.
Any any cereal with marshmallows

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in it I am a big fan of and I
don't do.

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I don't do the sugar cereals
anymore unfortunately.

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Although once in a blue moon if
I see an interesting cereal box

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I might pick it up.
Like for example, one time, it's

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probably been a year or two now,
but when I was walking down the

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cereal aisle, I saw Lucky Charms
S'mores.

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I think it was Lucky Charms
S'mores, which was quite good by

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the way.
I just had the most horrific

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S'mores experience over the
weekend.

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It was ridiculous.
S'mores.

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That's a statement I don't think
I hear often.

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I had the most ridiculous
S'mores incidents over the

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weekend.
Some of you might know I'm kind

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of a foodie.
And I saw this recipe where you

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take the Graham cracker, the
little chocolate pieces from the

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Hershey, you know, Hershey
chocolate and a couple of

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marshmallows.
And then you take the chocolate

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chip cookie dough, you know,
from the log.

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And you cut a big piece off and
you kind of mold it into kind of

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a flat sheet.
And then you drape it over the

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whole marshmallow chocolate
grape.

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And then you put it in the oven.
And what came out on TikTok was

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the most amazing cookie I've
ever seen.

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So I did that and it doesn't
work.

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It was horrendous.
It was so bad.

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So I I threw out the entire bag
of marshmallows.

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I just got so pissed off.
So yeah.

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That's hilarious, by the way.
I think Jonathan had something

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as well.
So, Jonathan, go for it.

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Yeah, so for me, a lot of my
podcasting time was during like,

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you know, breakfast, I'd do
something.

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So now breakfast I'm podcasting,
morning chat, lunch I'm doing

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something over on Shatter and
dinner I usually it's me and the

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dogs.
So you know, whatever I'm doing,

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it's usually in between either a
social audio event or maybe

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watching some news, but I don't
watch much TV.

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So yeah, it's usually
podcasting.

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Even during your meals.
Even during my meals.

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I think we have to make a
distinction between scrolling

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and actually listening podcast
because I, I do all my listening

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when I'm washing dishes, when
I'm driving the car to go

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shopping, you know, running
errands, I do all my listening.

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Or even when I'm putting on
makeup, I do all my listening at

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those times.
But when I am sitting for a

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meal, I'm normally scrolling,
reading episode titles, things

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like that.
See, I think that for the most

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part what I'm hearing and you
know, this is a small sampling,

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but from what I'm hearing from
the group and my own experience,

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it to me, I feel like a lot of
podcast listening happens more

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independently than with somebody
else.

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I'm not saying all the time, but
I'm just saying for the most

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part, I feel like podcast
listening happens with one

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person who hits play.
It's not a family experience,

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it's not a you and your
significant other experience.

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It's usually intimate between
you and the show.

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It is very, it's very intimate.
These buds are inside of our

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bodies.
They are inside of our ear

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nails.
So it is very intimate, yeah.

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Yep, for sure.
OK, I know you have to go make

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some breakfast, Dr. which we'll
figure out the rest of the flow

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here while you're doing that.
So go ahead and make your

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breakfast.
Thank you for starting us off

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with that story.
I will kick things off with some

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data for everybody as I clear my
throat.

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OK, there we go.
So first podcast data for as of

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yesterday, thanks to Pod News,
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And I say by the way, thanks to
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pulled this information.
The number one podcast on Apple,

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Devil in the Desert.
That's an ABC News true crime

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podcast and of course the number
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again, the Joe Rogan Experience.
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podcasts published at least one
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we often see that over the
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Now I will go to D Rs top five
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and this is as of last week
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They do them based on the week,
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So #5 The Midas Touch podcast #4
Kill Tony #3 is live trials with

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Emily D Baker #2 rotten rotten
tomato, rotten mango, and #1 the

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Joe Rogan Experience.
Of course DRI know you are

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making eggs right now.
Do you want me to take the

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random charts at in the Spotify
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Ahead.
OK.

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All right, so if I'm looking at

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the Spotify top five, five is
Crime Junkie, 4 is the Daily 3

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this past weekend with Theo Von
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#1 Joe Rogan Experience and Dr.
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For this week's random chart of
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looking at the science category
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Ologies with Ali Ward.
Did I pronounce that right #4

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Hidden brain #3 radiolab #2
Science VS and #1 Unwind to

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Ocean Science?
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second.
I'm sorry I'm in the kitchen,

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but it's important.
I listened to a couple of these.

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Now, if you, if you had your
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Facebook feed is full of.
Well, OK, here we go.

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Yeah, be careful.
Dancing.

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Yeah, I know.
Ballroom dancing, podcasting,

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ocean, anything under the ocean,
especially octopuses and stuff

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like that.
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something about eels.
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about it.
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female eels, right?
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There's the episode.
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that.
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with your story about Spotify.
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couple of events coming up in
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bigger events.
Podcast Movement 2025 that

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happens starting August 18th in
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YYC 2025 that happens September
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podcast event and it they say
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brightest minds and most
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Podcast, I should say, in
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a very similar mission.
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as the coordinator, as the
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I've got some ticket sales.
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I'd like, I'd like to be half

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We are not half full at this

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ability to really truly network
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think it would be hard to really
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a short period of time.
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you're going to get a great
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a lot.
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experts, industry long time
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Come to
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chance for us as a community.
To get together in person and

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actually hug one another,
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with one another and not
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It's awesome that we do it and

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there's nothing like in person.
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26th, empoweredpodcasting.com.
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All right, so let's keep going
with some news, and we're going

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to give the the first story to
Ashley.

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This one's about Spotify's
rising carbon footprint from

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turning audio into video.
Ashley, you want to take this

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one?
Go for it.

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Sure.
Good morning.

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This is from Greenlee, which is
the specialist on carbon

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accounting.
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story, I want everyone to bear
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found on podnews.net.
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written according to the metric
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So just keep that in mind, OK
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According to the Greenlee
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the rising carbon footprint of
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Spotify.
This could also include good

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podcasting because it's audio
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Spotify user base increased by
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406 million to 678,000,000
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The estimated admissions In
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187,040 tons of CO2 E in about
12 times more than the Vatican

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City's annual footprint.
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increased to linked energy use
from servers, transmission

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networks, AI and other devices,
compounded by Spotify shift into

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video content.
Another thing that has happened

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is incomplete reporting.
Spotify stopped including user

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device electricity consumption
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2021.
And if we remember, that seems

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to be right away when video
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Small person, big global impact
1 user generates about 276g of

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CO2 E per year, which seems
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millions of listeners.
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what I'm guilty of because I, I
asked some of my friends who

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like my music to stream my album
overnight on mute because we get

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a few pennies for that.
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looping habits.
Continuous playback of playlists

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significantly contributes to the
environmental impact.

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And Greenlee also believes if
Prem if all premium users

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switched to video streaming,
emissions would rise by an

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estimated 3.92 million tons per
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Wow, wow.
That's crazy.

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Thank you, Ashley.
I think that's an important

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story because, you know, we're
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especially as digital creators,
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We're asking our audiences to
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And oftentimes I think many
don't think about the impact

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that it has on the environment,
right?

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Because we don't see a lot of
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And, you know, AI is another big
one that really eats up a ton of

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energy, makes a huge footprint,
carbon footprint, and it doesn't

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look like it's slowing down
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So it is something scary and is
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stay aware of at the very least.
And I think we got to figure

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something out, not us
personally, but maybe, maybe one

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of us here could, but we got to
figure out a way to reduce that

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footprint.
Dr. Did I see you have

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something?
Yeah, and I, I hope I'm in the

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majority.
I don't know how they intersect.

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How is it that it's connected?
Let's go to the source first.

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Ashley, you want to do, you
know, do you want to try to

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answer that?
I'm afraid I don't understand

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your question.
Which is?

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Which is connected?
I'm sorry, they are.

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My listening habits and the and
how the.

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How it impacts the environment,
yeah.

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Oh well, it may not be you
personally, but collectively

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humans, most of us stream audio
over Spotify.

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So collectively, if we're all
streaming music or any kind of

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audio via Spotify, especially
ramping up a video, in a way,

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we're all contributing to just
the general use of making all

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this carbon.
I hope that makes sense.

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But how does that OK?
Never mind.

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I think what she's asking Ashley
is why is how are we producing

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carbon by me listening or
watching to Spotify because I

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don't get it either.
So I'm with you, Dr. I guess

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we're just old.
Thank you, Alex.

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Appreciate it.
Go ahead, Ashley.

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I would assume what they mean is
the servers it takes to run

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Spotify.
I don't have all the information

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that I'm assuming has something
to do with energy because that's

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what makes carbon. 100% that's
what it has to do with you know

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what they are.
Just ask Joe Rogan.

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He'll probably tell you.
Thank you.

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Let me go to Amanda and then Dan
has joined us on stage and we'll

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hear from him to go ahead.
Amanda, good morning.

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Good morning, this is maybe
going to be an unpopular

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opinion, but I am one to very
much conserve.

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I turn my lights off, I close
the blinds when it's hot, I

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reuse whatever I possibly can.
But one thing I'm going to

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really put my foot down on is
I'm not going to be made Phil to

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feel guilty to have a radio on
or ATV on.

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I feel like it's exactly the
same as having background noise

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or sleeping with a fan.
A lot of people are sleeping

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with like the rain apps now or a
rain channel on Spotify.

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So I think our habits have
changed.

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And to me, this is not
concerning at all because it's

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just one energy to a different
energy.

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And I'm not going to feel guilty
for my listening habits when I

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do my part behind the scenes to
make sure that there's as little

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waste as I possibly can.
But this seems like an

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interesting report.
I did, I did read and I can't

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remember that just by somebody
saying thank you to ChatGPT or

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some sort of AI, it uses X
amount of energy.

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And I go, Oh my gosh, I can't
believe we're being told to

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conserve or watch our like usage
for data.

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You know what I mean?
It just blows my mind.

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And listen, I don't want to
leave a huge carbon footprint

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just because I lived, but also
I'm not going to feel guilty for

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a living and using the wonderful
tools that we've been gifted in

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this world.
OK, that's a fairpoint.

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I'm.
Passionate.

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Yeah, and I'm sure you're not
alone.

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I'm sure you.
And look, I mean, I think when

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it comes to how I, my behaviors
and how I'm using my technology,

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I'm certainly not being smart
about my carbon footprint.

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I'm just using them free will
and you know, certainly turn

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them off when I'm not using
them.

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I, except there are cases like
you're saying, where at night

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I'm running an app.
It's not a white noise app, but

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it is.
It's playing like relaxing music

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in the background.
And I'm playing that all through

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the night, both for me and my
wife.

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It helps us sleep better.
So yeah, I, I hear you.

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I think it's a pick and choose
and do your part as best you

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can.
Let's see.

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Let's go to Dan, and then we're
going to go to Sid.

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I saw Sid had something to go
ahead.

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Dan, good morning.
Hey, good morning.

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Thank you.
Glad to be here.

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So just a quick answer, you know
video requires more energy to

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create and more energy for
output, so the increase in

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consumption.
Because of the focus on video

452
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formatting for, well, platforms
like Spotify means an increase

453
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,240
on server loads, which means an
increase in consumption overall.

454
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,520
And that leads to having a
larger carbon slip through.

455
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,480
But I mean, I don't think
there's anything to necessarily

456
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,360
prep over as Amanda pointed out
so elegantly.

457
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,280
Thank you, Dan, and appreciate
the that breakdown.

458
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,320
I think that's helpful for those
questions about, you know, how

459
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
is this hurting the environment?
Thank you.

460
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,320
And Sid, we're coming to you and
then we're going to go to

461
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,400
Jonathan.
Go ahead, Sid.

462
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,720
Good morning again everybody.
This is a really important

463
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240
conversation for a lot of
different reasons.

464
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,840
I work in an industry that uses
a lot of the world's natural

465
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,240
resources in the manufacturing
of our products and as well

466
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,200
contributes to, you know, carbon
emissions in the air and in the

467
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,360
environment.
But at the end of the day, kind

468
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,840
of to Amanda's point, it's
literally not about changing

469
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,760
your lifestyle or not taking
advantage of the tools and

470
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,320
resources that are available to
you.

471
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,160
That's about making smart
decisions.

472
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,000
Like Amanda said, turning the
lights off in your house when

473
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160
nobody's in those rooms, I walk
through and turn the lights off

474
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,440
all the time, right?
Turning the air conditioner up

475
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,760
just a little bit, like 1° or
something like that, all that

476
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,320
helps because it's about energy
consumption and putting bad

477
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,960
carbon into the environment.
And a lot of businesses,

478
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,680
especially in my industry, have
emission goals and, and

479
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,240
commitments that they've made to
reduce because all of this

480
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,200
impacts the environment.
And if you just want to see the

481
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,440
impact of this, go to a
mountaintop somewhere and look

482
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440
at the dead trees.
That's what this is about.

483
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,520
And so the, the, the whole
conversation, that's just one

484
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,880
example, by the way, but the
whole conversation around doing

485
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,080
things better for the
environment is a really

486
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,680
important conversation that all
of us contribute to because we

487
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,560
want this earth to be here for
our children.

488
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,600
It's unfortunate and their
children, right?

489
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,760
It's very unfortunate that this
has become a very politicized

490
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,400
conversation when it doesn't
need to be.

491
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,320
And with what's happening
currently, this is being

492
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,600
devalued in the current
administration.

493
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,200
And so it's really sad to see
some of the things that are

494
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,840
happening, especially coming
from an industry that it this is

495
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,120
at the top of mind from us, not
just in what we're

496
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,880
manufacturing, but the products
that we're using, how much of

497
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,240
they are, how much of it is
recycled, how much of it can can

498
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,120
be recycled.
So it's a much deeper

499
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,240
conversation, but everybody
plays a role in it.

500
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,320
So just make smart, simple
decisions that will help to

501
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,040
contribute to this.
Thank you, Sid.

502
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,880
Yeah, I think that one way we
can do that is just being more

503
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,360
mindful about how we're
consuming content.

504
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560
In other words, like there are
times like I'm as Sid was

505
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,520
sharing, it was making me think
about we'll play music in the

506
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,280
house throughout the day.
And that's fine if it's actually

507
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,960
being consumed, but there are
times where we might leave the

508
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680
house and forget to turn off the
music, right?

509
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,760
So it's it's times like that it,
you know, much like running the

510
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,520
kitchen sink, you ideally you're
not just turning it on and

511
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,240
letting it run and, you know,
going back and forth, grabbing

512
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160
dishes, cleaning them while the
faucet just continues to run.

513
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,600
Right.
When you're not using it, you

514
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,320
turn it off, I hope.
And I think the same can be said

515
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640
about our, the way that we're
consuming content.

516
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,240
If we're if it's just running in
the background and yeah, sure,

517
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,960
if it's helping you sleep, then
that counts as consuming it.

518
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,560
But if you're just letting it
run in the background and you've

519
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,520
moved on and you're not even
paying attention to it, those

520
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,320
are the times to do your part.
Turn it off.

521
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,520
Yeah.
Why not Think it's important to

522
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,960
be mindful of that.
So, yeah.

523
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Thank you, Sid and Jonathan, I
think you said you had

524
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,600
something.
Go ahead.

525
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,600
Well, Sid, I don't have any
kids, so I'm not worried about

526
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,680
it.
No joking.

527
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,080
But we also have to keep in mind
that all of this carbon, we're

528
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,000
also sorry, I hate to break it
to you, We're also wasting a lot

529
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,560
of water with this technology as
well.

530
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,600
Fresh water is being used to
cool like AI data centers and

531
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,000
that water actually is then
polluted and can't necessarily

532
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,480
be reused in the way that a lot
of other water is reused.

533
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,720
So just being smart about how we
use things, I know it seems

534
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,520
silly, but it actually makes a
difference in in how much you

535
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,840
know, how much water, how much
carbon, all of that is being

536
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,520
impacted by this technology.
It it, each and every person has

537
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,360
an impact on it.
Yeah.

538
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,920
Thank you, Jonathan.
And that's as content creators,

539
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,640
digital creators, I think it is
important that we talk about

540
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,120
these things and that we're
mindful of these things and

541
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,760
we're doing our part to help
reduce the use of carbon, water,

542
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,520
etcetera.
OK, let's do this, let's keep

543
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480
going.
We have a ton of stories to get

544
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,640
to, and so we will get to as
many as possible.

545
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,640
And likely we'll end up spilling
some of them into tomorrow's

546
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,560
episode as well, 'cause like I
said, there's a lot and I think

547
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:33,080
there are some important ones.
Dr. Let's jump to story #3 about

548
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,640
offonics, since I teased that at
the top of the show, and then

549
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,840
we'll play some samples too.
OK, so this one has specific

550
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,920
special meaning to me.
So the story is, is that

551
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,040
coughing happens.
That's life.

552
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,480
But it doesn't have to show up
on your podcast.

553
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,760
Offonic just rolled out its new
Cut Coughs that's in quotation

554
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,720
marks.
Cut Coughs feature an algorithm

555
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,520
designed to automatically remove
unwanted sounds like coughing,

556
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,720
sneezing, and throat clearing.
They do recommend pairing it up

557
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,480
with their remove breathings.
Breathings.

558
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,639
OK, breathings option,
especially since there is a fine

559
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,679
line between heavy breath and a
mild cough.

560
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:26,639
And hey, sometimes these sounds
might actually add to your show,

561
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,480
keeping it authentic and real.
The choice is yours.

562
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,000
You can let the algorithm do its
thing or edit manually to match

563
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,760
your style.
Yeah.

564
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,280
And we have some samples from
Offonics, so you can hear

565
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,239
exactly how this works and it's
really impressive.

566
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,840
And yeah, so they're going to,
we'll play the original, at

567
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,719
least some of it, it's only 20
seconds.

568
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,760
And then we'll play the cough
cut version, which they, as Dr.

569
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,400
pointed out, they, they said in
addition to using the cough cut

570
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,000
feature, they also activated the
noise reduction and the breath

571
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,960
removal algorithms that they
have.

572
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,400
So here is the original.
I think this is one of the

573
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,560
founders of Authonic speaking.
Sometimes when you're trying to

574
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,920
record a podcast, you may have a
cold or it is simply allergy

575
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,240
season.
But Authonic catch your back

576
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,920
with our new denoising function.
No one will ever know.

577
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,320
So you could hear the breathing,
the extra breaths that come from

578
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520
the coughing, but you don't hear
the actual coughing.

579
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,120
So then this is it.
I don't.

580
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,840
Even know if that's better I
mean.

581
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,320
Well here it is.
Here's another one where they

582
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,120
also denoised the the version
with the cough cut.

583
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,560
Then hear that.
Listen to this one.

584
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,200
Sometimes when you're trying to
record a podcast you may have a

585
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,560
cold or it is simply allergy
season, but I'll phonic catch

586
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,600
your back with our new denoising
function.

587
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,360
No one will ever know.
Now that was pretty impressive.

588
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,080
OK, that was pretty impressive.
I agree.

589
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,080
That's pretty impressive.
This, this story is a particular

590
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,480
interest to me because I have a
client and she knows this about

591
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,680
herself.
Every single solitary episode

592
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:29,240
there is a throat clearing
happening, an event or a

593
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,640
coughing or a something with
her.

594
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,200
And it's just something that
we've lived with throughout, you

595
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,520
know, our relationship over the
past several years.

596
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,920
So I always have to keep an ear
out for those or you know, and

597
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:50,320
the part, the hard part is, is
that sometimes she speaks during

598
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,000
that.
Anyway, you know that kind of.

599
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:57,600
And those hard ones, so and I
see David that is in the

600
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,680
audience.
So I would like David please

601
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,800
tell me how to figure that one
out.

602
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,320
David also one of the ironic
media editors.

603
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,400
Yeah.
And so he and Dr. often connect.

604
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,360
I want to play one more for you
here.

605
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,160
This is a this is a female.
And it says in this audio

606
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,720
snippet extracted from the video
Late Night Coughing, the cut,

607
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:24,360
cut Cut Coughs feature
successfully removes a heavy

608
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,600
coughing attack from the female
speakers.

609
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:34,800
I so it is almost minute.
Oh.

610
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Gosh, Oh my God.
So I know how quiet it is, but

611
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,720
what's the effort?
It's what Michael gets to deal

612
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,480
with all.
Right, let's hear the the coughs

613
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:52,280
cut version I.
So it is almost minute, so I

614
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,120
know how quiet it is.
What's the effort is what

615
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,600
Michael gets to deal with.
I have a St. as a husband.

616
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Better.
But it was a little weird.

617
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,240
It was harder to understand.
It was almost too much, too much

618
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,880
AI on that for my taste.
But overall, I think it's a

619
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,080
great feature.
Ashley, I'm going to come to you

620
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,000
in a second because I wanted to
hear from you because you put

621
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,440
something in the chat that you
still want to manually do it,

622
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,760
and I want to find out why.
But first, Amanda's been raising

623
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,280
her hand.
Go for it, Amanda.

624
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,320
So I think in the first example,
it worked so well because he

625
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,720
intentionally had that break of
and now I'm going to cough and

626
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,880
now I'm going to give an example
of a sneeze where her, her, her

627
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,840
particular one, she was talking
to DRS point.

628
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Sometimes there's that, that
talking into the disruption and

629
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,520
that's where it didn't really do
much for it made it almost more

630
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,760
complicated.
Then you're going what's

631
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,720
missing?
It sounded just like a poor

632
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,840
editing job or glitch maybe in
your Wi-Fi or something like

633
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,960
that.
So well, I think it's a really

634
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,760
good tool.
I don't think we can anticipate

635
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,480
how we sneeze and what we do
when we're sneezing as far as

636
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,280
the conversation keeping on
going or laughing or sniffling.

637
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,320
It can be done while we're
actually talking.

638
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,320
And I think that's the more
human part is that's what we do.

639
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,960
We don't go, oh, excuse me, I'm
going to pause now, sneeze, you

640
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,080
know what I mean?
So it could be a great tool, but

641
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,880
I think for the normal person
who wants to use this, it's

642
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,840
going to end up more like the
second example that was shown.

643
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,640
Yeah, pass.
I agree with you.

644
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,560
And I think that, I mean, we'd
have to test it more, really.

645
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,920
I think that it probably is
helpful, especially if you say

646
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,200
you're doing a show, you're
sick, but you're doing it

647
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,040
anyway.
And yeah, you're coughing a lot.

648
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,080
That would take a lot of editing
to deal with.

649
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,360
And quite frankly, if I sounded
like either one of those, I'd

650
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,920
want to cut those coughs out
because especially that the

651
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,680
female one there could.
That was really disgusting.

652
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,600
And if that's what I'm the
sounds I'm putting out on my

653
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,560
podcast, I want to save my
audience the trouble and get rid

654
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,720
of it.
So if it could automatically do

655
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,360
it and still be something that
you can listen to and

656
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,400
understand, I'm on board with
it.

657
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,280
But it's got to be just.
Having to edit.

658
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,040
It that's the problem, you still
have to do some editing, I'm

659
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,040
sure.
Yes.

660
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120
And I still believe that it'll
be helpful.

661
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,240
It'll save some time having it
automatically do that.

662
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,520
Yeah.
Somebody else had something.

663
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Did anyone go ahead, Jonathan?
If you ever sound like that,

664
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,040
you're losing listeners, so just
don't record a podcast because

665
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,720
that last one was just gross.
Also, just like throwing chili

666
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:37,960
at you.
Yeah, it it did sound really

667
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,040
gross.
I agree, Ashley.

668
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,560
So tell me, you said you want to
just continue to manually edit

669
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,640
those out.
How come?

670
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Maybe it's the control freak in
me and also maybe the the lack

671
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,720
of trust.
Like for example I've noticed

672
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:57,520
with just about any kind of AI
infused editor that it doesn't

673
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,720
always make the best call.
Sometimes it'll do a great job,

674
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:06,560
other times it doesn't.
For example, in descript, it

675
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,760
often thinks that laughter is
coughing and it's not.

676
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,920
It's laughter.
I just don't trust the

677
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,760
technology all the way yet.
I think it's great to help, but

678
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,400
I'm not going to give it the
keys and the steering wheel yet.

679
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,480
OK, that's fair.
I would use it and I would want

680
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,360
to test it before I fully go all
in on it.

681
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,040
But I think that theirs is doing
a good job.

682
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,720
I think that they, there's
something in the article or

683
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,800
somewhere I read that they're
acknowledging that yes, of

684
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,240
course there is a difference
between laughing and coughing

685
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,880
and they believe that their
tool, Offonics tool, can make

686
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,880
that distinction.
So we'll have to see.

687
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,040
I love Offonic.
I highly recommend it to people.

688
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,440
There are parts of it that's
very user friendly.

689
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,200
There are some parts that if you
really want to take advantage of

690
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,640
everything it has to offer it,
there's a little bit of a

691
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,080
learning curve.
And overall, I think it's well

692
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,560
worth it because it can save a
lot of time and really enhance

693
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,840
the audio.
And we use it to improve our

694
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,440
audio here on the podcasting
morning chat.

695
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,720
We use it every episode.
Yeah, Dr. Well, does Alphonic

696
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,640
have a free tier that this would
be applicable to?

697
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,040
They they give two hours free,
so if you have two hours worth

698
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,680
of content you can do whatever
you want with it up to two

699
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,080
hours.
Anything past that then you have

700
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:34,480
to start paying.
OK, well I use AI use an editing

701
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:42,560
tool called resound, resound dot
FM and what it does is it flags

702
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:49,240
certain sounds like gaps and and
things like that.

703
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,960
So basically I'm just sitting
there listening to the podcast

704
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,800
play and occasionally for words
that you say like around about

705
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,840
anything with that a sound it it
sometimes will grab that word

706
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,160
and it will cut it off.
And so that's why I have to

707
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,960
babysit it.
I sit there and I go, Nope,

708
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,400
don't, don't do that one.
You know, so it's I love this

709
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,080
platform, but I feel like it's
being abandoned.

710
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,520
I feel like the creators have
like, yeah, gotten kind of meh

711
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,640
and lackadaisical and no updates
and things like that.

712
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,160
But I love this for a first pass
and if it's a solo show, it's

713
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,400
normally the only one that I
use, the only one that I need

714
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,840
and.
What's the name of it again?

715
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,200
It's called resound dot FM.
Cool.

716
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,800
And again, I love it.
So yeah.

717
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,680
Yeah, it's been around for a
little bit.

718
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,720
It's kind of sad to hear that
maybe they're not keeping up

719
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:51,520
with it as much, but yeah, I
know it's been around for a

720
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,920
while and a lot of people like
it so.

721
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,160
They want to yell at someone, I
want to yell.

722
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,640
So I have a lot of material that
I can use to yell at someone

723
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,760
with and I really want to let go
on someone.

724
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,960
All right, here we're going to
rattle through a couple more

725
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,600
important stories, so stick with
us here first.

726
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,520
Oh, this is 1 I wanted to share
and Jonathan, you're on deck.

727
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,520
I want to get some social media
news and updates from you.

728
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,880
First I wanted to bring up
because we haven't talked about

729
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:29,360
yet call her Alex.
This is the documentary or I

730
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,560
should say docu series,
docudrama, I don't know.

731
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,760
It's a two episode docu series
with Alex Cooper.

732
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,240
I just started watching it.
Call Her Alex Hulu's two-part

733
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,800
documentary tracing Alex
Cooper's journey from a reserved

734
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,680
kid and soccer player.
Did you know she was a digit A

735
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,360
Division One soccer player to
the creator and face of Call Her

736
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,560
Daddy, which as we all know, is
a podcast phenomenon.

737
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,960
Now, as she prepares for her
debut tour, Cooper opens up

738
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,640
about her early life, college
trauma and the business

739
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,080
decisions that shaped her
empire.

740
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,920
Critics call it polished, yet
promotional.

741
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:16,000
I disagree and I'll explain why.
Audiences describe it as

742
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,560
inspiring and deeply personal.
I air on the audience side.

743
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,800
I did not find it promotional.
If you watched the Smart,

744
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,720
smartless season on what was it,
Max?

745
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:33,400
Maybe where they documented
their tour, their live tour.

746
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,320
I got a very similar feel,
similar vibe for Call Her Alex.

747
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,680
I have not finished.
I'm halfway through episode one

748
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,360
of two and I'm really enjoying
it, especially as a podcaster.

749
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,640
But I really believe a lot of
people would enjoy it whether

750
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,400
they're into podcasting or not.
It's not just for her audience.

751
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,840
I really think that if you want
to see what the life of the

752
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,800
content creator who really
started from scratch, I mean,

753
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,280
she was what I believe is truly
an independent podcaster.

754
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,560
And the fact that she was able
to grow to what she's grown in

755
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,680
just a few short years is mind
blowing and inspiring.

756
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,840
And I encourage any podcaster,
especially if you're feeling a

757
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,560
little discouraged about where
you are in your journey to go

758
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,800
check this out because she made
it happen.

759
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,160
And I believe any one of us
could do the same.

760
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,360
So check that out.
And I was going to let me get

761
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,320
let me get some emojis from
everybody.

762
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,480
Give me give me the hot pepper
emoji if you want to hear the

763
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,640
trailer for call her Alex or so
that's 1/2.

764
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Do we have enough?
All right, three couple more.

765
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,600
OK, I will go ahead.
Yep, some baza put in the chat,

766
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,600
the thumbs up.
I will play this for you right

767
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,120
now, I'm over.
Fixating on making sure every

768
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,680
single thing sounds good and
looks good and it's perfect, but

769
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,560
the imperfections in the shelter
would make it even more me.

770
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Here we go.
She's an astute businesswoman

771
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,680
who understood where podcasting
was going.

772
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,440
It's about intimacy.
It's about empowerment.

773
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,400
Hi, Alex.
I'm gonna do that.

774
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,920
I was fortunate to grow up in a
household where it was

775
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,640
normalized to speak your mind.
Playing sports and making videos

776
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,800
in my basement, those were the
two things I really loved.

777
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,800
By the time I got to college, it
was exciting to start a new

778
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,160
chapter of my life.
I felt this enormous privilege

779
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,280
that I was able to play Division
One soccer.

780
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,560
And then the whole thing turned.
I experienced something

781
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:59,400
extremely painful.
It was all taken away from me.

782
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,040
It ignited this desperate rush
to find my new purpose.

783
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,200
Call her.
Daddy podcasting at that time

784
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,080
was a male dominated field.
Talking about sex in a way that

785
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,120
was so alpha male.
It was the biggest show in the

786
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,120
world, but the whole thing broke
down.

787
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,600
The podcast changed as Alex has
changed.

788
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,280
If me being vulnerable makes
people feel connected and seen,

789
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,360
then I'm doing my job.
I've been at this for 60 years.

790
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,200
You're one of the best
interviewers I've ever had.

791
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,880
This is the first time I've ever
going to be on a stage live in

792
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,320
front of people.
OK, we're slight delay.

793
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,120
As women, we learn, don't be
confident because equals.

794
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,200
Cocky if you're allowed to
advocate for yourself.

795
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,200
You're speaking like my
therapist.

796
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,000
Let's put on a good show.
We're trying to make women feel

797
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,080
liberated.
We want them to feel like they

798
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,280
are respected and seen and
heard.

799
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,160
I have so much more that I want
to do and I'm just getting

800
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,120
started.
There you go.

801
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,320
So that is call Her Alex,
available on Hulu right now.

802
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,520
And yeah, listen, this trailer
is made for video because it's a

803
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,640
video documentary, so it doesn't
translate as well via audio.

804
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,200
But I feel like you got you
should have gotten the gist of

805
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,080
this.
And if you, again, if you're a

806
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,520
podcaster, it's pretty exciting.
And by the way, you might have

807
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,080
heard that voice there that
said, I've been at this for 60

808
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,920
years and you're one of the best
interviews I've ever had.

809
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Sounded like Jane Fonda.
That's exactly who it was.

810
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,120
Jane Fonda.
Yeah.

811
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,920
Yeah.
I mean, then to get that kind of

812
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,120
compliment from from a Jane
Fonda, that's pretty amazing.

813
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,400
So check that out.
Let me know if you're watching

814
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,360
it.
It's something I'm watching too.

815
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,800
So let's compare notes if that's
of interest to you.

816
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,520
OK, Let's keep it moving.
Hey, Mark.

817
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,320
Yeah.
Can I comment?

818
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,440
Report, please go ahead So.
I've never watched or listened

819
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,160
to her show.
In fact, I probably had some

820
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:21,560
preconceived ideas about who she
was, wrongfully so.

821
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Right?
That's riddled with judgment on

822
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,600
my part.
And I realized that after

823
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,400
listening to that trailer, I
actually want to go and watch

824
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,760
it.
Like I want to go hear her story

825
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,040
and which may lead to me
actually clicking play on one of

826
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,160
her episodes.
I don't know.

827
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,000
But thank you for playing that
because it got me intrigued

828
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,560
enough now that I want to go
watch that and hear a story.

829
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,720
Because the lesson I'm taking
away from it is everybody has a

830
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:50,720
story and she's being and we
need to share our stories.

831
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:54,480
We all talk about that, but
she's being brave enough to

832
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:59,160
share her story in a way that
maybe we'll take the critics

833
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,520
like me and turn us into fans.
I don't know.

834
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,760
But I can't tell you why.
I've never listened to her show,

835
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,360
but I just had some preconceived
ideas about what the show is

836
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,360
about.
Yeah, I mean, look, I I

837
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,360
appreciate you saying that.
And I'm the same.

838
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,400
I it wasn't really judgment for
me.

839
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,200
It just was what I knew that
this was a show targeted at

840
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,920
women, so I just didn't think of
pressing play.

841
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,880
Respected her, respect what
she's done, respect her show.

842
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,280
And I just knew it.
I wasn't the target audience, so

843
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,280
I didn't think about going to
press play on it.

844
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,080
And now I am intrigued.
And I haven't even finished the

845
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,320
two-part series on Hulu, which I
will share the link here.

846
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,440
And of course, we'll put it in
the show notes as well.

847
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Before I move on and get some
social media news from Jonathan.

848
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,600
Renee has joined us on stage.
Renee, good morning.

849
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,960
Did you want to comment on Call
Her Alex?

850
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,720
Yeah.
So here's my marketing hat on.

851
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,600
Of course, that's the one I wear
all the time.

852
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,000
I think that trailer was so
moving and it it just hit me.

853
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:06,480
It's a dumb moment is let's grab
that transcript and the link and

854
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,280
feed it to chat.
Find a few other trailers that

855
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,200
we love that are talking about
people.

856
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,520
And then take your content, your
bio, all the written words of

857
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:21,520
you of what you do on your
podcast and then tell chat to.

858
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,920
Give you your script.
Including images to bring out

859
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,400
the same emotion.
And you guys all do your own, do

860
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,200
your own trailer for a visual
trailer so you can put it on

861
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,000
your YouTube channels and build
your own trailer.

862
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,560
And then make that the the
featured video on your YouTube

863
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,520
channel and use it for all your
other social and promote

864
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,840
yourself that way.
Because that's what we should

865
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,000
all be doing for ourselves and
our clients.

866
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,640
Yeah, what a great thank you,
Renee.

867
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:56,160
What a great way to use AI,
ChatGPT or your AI preference.

868
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,320
I think that's a wonderful idea.
Feeding it different trailers

869
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,960
that you're drawn to and then
have it learn those trailers and

870
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,120
then help you write one for
yourself.

871
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,200
I think that's a brilliant idea.
The challenge is we're almost

872
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,520
there, I think.
But the challenge is, is, or at

873
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,040
least what would be ideal is
that we would be able to upload

874
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,840
the video itself and have it
analyze it with all the moving

875
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,480
pictures, the move, the B roll,
etcetera, and be able to learn

876
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,160
from that.
Because obviously some of that

877
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,680
gets lost in translation from a
transcript only.

878
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,800
But I still think it is
something you can do and have it

879
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,800
learn from and help you build a
more dynamic trailer.

880
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Love that idea.
Thank you, Renee.

881
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,720
All right, Jonathan, we're
coming to you for to wrap us up

882
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:47,960
with a little bit of social
media news.

883
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,200
And I think there's some stuff
you've got about Blue Sky and of

884
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,400
course Chatter, which we're
going to have an announcement

885
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,840
that one day next week.
Just one, at least for now,

886
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:04,200
we're going to do this very show
on Chatter just so we can all

887
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,880
get to learn a little bit more
about it and see what it's like.

888
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,480
So with that, Jonathan, take it
away.

889
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,440
Yes, so I did want to share that
the Blue Sky announcement is

890
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,760
that Blue Sky and Chatter are
actually directly connected.

891
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,600
So if you are a Blue Sky user,
you don't actually have to sign

892
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,360
up for Chatter.
You just need to go over to Blue

893
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,760
Sky, click on any links that you
see in the Chatter feed and

894
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,960
enter into a room.
You will automatically be

895
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,040
assigned your Chatter ID.
You can go and engage all, all

896
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,280
different ways and then those of
you who don't, if you're on

897
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,160
Chatter, you can get a blue sky
ID set up and your rooms and

898
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,000
stuff will automatically be
shared over there when you

899
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,760
create them.
So that is a great way to

900
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connect to the Chatter platform
if you're looking, if you're new

901
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,280
or want to do anything over
there.

902
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,720
And for those of you who like
monetization, So if you like

903
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,640
making money out of the content
you create, even just running

904
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,360
rooms, there is that option over
on Chatter.

905
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,080
I ran a room yesterday actually,
and I run my rooms.

906
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,680
I'm teaching people.
So I think nobody's going to pay

907
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,560
me to do this because I've run
rooms four years over here.

908
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,920
Nobody's paid me to do it.
And there there is the

909
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,760
monetization over there.
I did make $60.00 in that room,

910
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,280
which to me was like, whoa,
holy, I don't make $60.00 on

911
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,360
that room here.
You know there is that option

912
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,640
and it's a very simple option.
They have what's called Rocket

913
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,000
Chats, but you also
subscriptions and a couple other

914
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,320
things that are coming.
So Rocket Chats are just chats

915
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,840
that people put a little small
monetary amount to whether they

916
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,680
want to get their thought scene
on stage or just support you as

917
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,640
as a creator.
So that is very cool and over

918
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,040
there on chatter.
So if you're looking and they

919
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,320
are rolling, we're still in
beta, but they are rolling out

920
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,080
to, it is open to the public
now.

921
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,280
If you want to go sign up, you
can.

922
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,520
So you don't need to have an
invitation.

923
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,480
It's just a soft open beta sort
of situation over there right

924
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,760
now.
And you have video, you have

925
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,760
audio, you have screen sharing
and all that fun.

926
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:11,240
So it is definitely a multi
input output type platform,

927
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,200
multi streaming and all sorts of
fun.

928
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,160
Yeah.
Yeah.

929
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,560
Thank you, Jonathan, our
resident chatter guy and really

930
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,560
helpful to have you here and
there because we're getting the

931
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,840
chance to ease into a potential
move.

932
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,160
And I mean that when I say it's
a potential move.

933
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,320
I have not made any decisions
and I'm very curious about it.

934
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,200
I think the monetization feature
is awesome.

935
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,120
It's cool to hear that.
You know, it's something that

936
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,280
Jonathan just started doing and
instantly started getting paid

937
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,560
to do what he always does on
these social audio apps.

938
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,160
So check out, check it out
because you'll also, I think

939
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,840
soon, if not already, but soon
you'll be able to record your

940
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,240
podcast using Chatter, much like
what we do here, but it's more

941
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:02,560
streamlined, built into the app.
Whereas here I'm recording to my

942
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,480
Rd.
Caster Pro and doing it all

943
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,560
outside of Clubhouse.
So check out Chatter.

944
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,440
Please download it if you are
the listener of the podcasting

945
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,200
morning chat, so you can be a
part of it when we do

946
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,120
occasionally go over there and
learn more about it there.

947
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,640
Thank you, Jonathan, appreciate
it.

948
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,960
And again, thank you, Renee, for
your input this morning.

949
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,320
I think that was really helpful.
Great insight, and thanks to all

950
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,880
of you for participating this
morning.

951
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,160
We're going to do some more
headlines because there's a lot

952
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,320
more to cover tomorrow and we'll
have more discussions.

953
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,200
All things podcasting tomorrow
as well.

954
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,520
So come join us 7:00 AM Eastern
Time live on Clubhouse, live on

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00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,440
YouTube.
Would love to have you join me

956
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,960
there.
And until tomorrow, make it a

957
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,240
great day.
Everybody take care.