From Radishes to Rainforests: Landscape Architect Mattheiw Mahuse on Regenerative Gardens & A Regenerative Life
What happens when a little boy obsessed with radishes grows up, travels the world, survives dengue in the Amazon, and then becomes a regenerative landscape architect? You get one of the most inspiring conversations I’ve had all year.
Matthew Mahuse’s story is pure heart, grit, and purpose. He grew up on a Belgian farm, fell in love with plants at age five, and later traveled the world studying permaculture, eco-projects, and sustainable design. A life-changing health crisis forced him to start asking more profound questions about why he was here and what impact he was meant to make. Today, he designs lush, low-maintenance gardens that work with nature rather than against it and teaches others how to do the same through his book and global masterclass. We talk about regenerative farming, soil health, climate change, and why industrial agriculture created as many problems as it solved. We also walk through his company Polonia Landscape Architects and his award winning book, The 12 Universal Laws of Nature. This episode will change the way you look at the earth beneath your feet.
Six Key Takeaways
→ Childhood curiosity often reveals your true purpose
→ Industrial farming solved hunger but damaged the planet
→ Regeneration begins with understanding nature instead of fighting it
→ Beautiful gardens can be low maintenance when designed the right way
→ Your deepest setbacks can become your most important turning points
→ Follow your dream or you’ll end up living someone else’s expectations
Matthew Mahuse Landscape Architect and Regenerative Garden Designer Founder of Polonia Landscape Architects Author of The 12 Universal Laws of Nature Creator of the Garden of Your Dreams Masterclass Website link is included in the episode description.
If you host a podcast or run a community, Matthew is an exceptional guest with a powerful story and deep expertise. You’ll find his website and book links in the show description.
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We're back. We're live. Everyone, Matthew, Matthew,
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everyone right now is going, who's that handsome
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guy with Adrian? So let me introduce you. It's
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Matthew Mahuse. I think I said it right, Mahuse,
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but he's going to say it better because it's
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his name and he knows it. So a couple of things
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we could say about Matthew, right? He's brave,
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comes on live, doesn't know what to expect. Cause
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you know me, he's brave, bold. beautiful, sorry,
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but I have to say that you're just a beautiful
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looking human. And he's got two M's in his name.
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And if everyone knows me, they know I love M
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&M's. So anything with two M's make me happy.
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So Matthew, introduce yourself. Hey, Adrian,
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thank you for having me on the show. So I'll
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give you my quick backstory. So I grew up on
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a family farm. And both my brother and farmers
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are still active farmers today. And when I was
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about Somewhere between the age of three to five
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years old, I was really excited and fascinated
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about plants. How plants can grow? How on earth
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is it possible that you have a tiny little seed
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and you put it in the soil, it can grow into
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a crop that you can harvest, or even an age -old
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oak tree, for example? How on earth is that possible?
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These were some of my early questions around
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that age. We had a teacher at school. She was
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amazing. She was already a bit of age but she
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had a lot of wisdom about plants and how to propagate
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and how to do a vegetable garden. So we learned
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all those stuff in our classroom and our classroom
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was full of plants and I still remember that
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and I loved it. And so after that I came home
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and I told to my parents like, hey, I want to
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start my own vegetable garden. So on our farm
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it was mostly cash crops and cattle. So there
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was not much vegetable growing going on. And
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so they said like, no, we don't have time because
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they had super busy lives as a farmer. But I
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persisted and eventually they said, okay, there's
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this corner in the back of the yard, go and do
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your stuff there. And so I prepared my soil,
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I did everything, and I started growing radishes.
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And radishes are one of the easiest crops you
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could ever grow. If you're thinking of starting
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your vegetable gardening journey, start out with
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radishes, it's so easy. You just put them in
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the soil. wait a couple weeks, six weeks later
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you have something to eat, maybe shorter in some
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climates. So I started with that and I succeeded
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and I was like, wow, this is so cool. I remember
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having a salad with my mother and my parents
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and I had produced these radishes. This was one
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of the most fulfilling things that I experienced
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at that time and still today, I remember it clearly.
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And so I thought like, hey, this gardening thing
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is quite easy. I'm just going to continue doing
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more. So I got more seeds, tomatoes, lettuces,
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and I just put everything in the soil. I had
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no clue what I was doing. And I came back a few
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weeks later to my yard to think like, oh, it's
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going to be full of beautiful vegetables. And
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I'm going to harvest everything. It's going to
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be amazing. because I was also doing all kinds
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of other projects on the farm. I had this kind
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of entrepreneurial hunger already from a very
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young age because I had 20 chicken from age 6
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to 12 and I got my eggs every day and I sold
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them to friends of my parents and by the time
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I was 12 years old I had actually made a few
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thousand dollars which I then invested in the
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stock market but that's another story but so
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I did that. and I came back to my yard and it
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was completely overgrown by weeds because obviously
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I had no clue what I was doing and then I was
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devastated like this was my first failure and
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I'm like asking other questions like why didn't
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nature help me why is nature trying to kill my
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my project here and it was only later in life
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because I'm telling you this because later in
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life I I decided to to I did like economics and
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modern languages I studied and then I said I
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want to go back to my roots and I'm going to
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study garden design because that's kind of like
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the obvious thing that I thought would make sense
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because I love creating things and so I studied
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that but it was a formal training and I didn't
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feel like I knew enough. I went on to do a master
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degree in engineering for big scale projects
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in landscape architecture in Germany and then
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I did what most people expected. me to do was
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to get a nine to five job and I did that for
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two and a half years in Germany and one of the
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highest ranking companies in landscape architecture
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in the world because it's like Germany is really
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good at creating public spaces, green spaces.
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It's very important for them and so I did that
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but I became quite depressed doing that because
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I wanted to have an impact. I was like young
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and And I was thinking like we have to do something
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about the environment, our beautiful planet.
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Like if you look outside, the climate is going
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crazy. We need to reverse that. It's partially
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made by humans. So we have the capacity to reverse
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that. And I'm like in an office job doing all
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kinds of paperwork in Germany. And I'm like,
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this is not what I was why I was put on this
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planet. So I decided again, I'm going to quit
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my job. I had some money saved up and I'm going
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to travel the world. and go to places all over
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the world that are where people are doing things
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around actual eco projects that are making a
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difference in the world. So I visited a lot of
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regenerative farms, sustainable farms. I volunteered.
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I went to eco resorts. I looked into developments
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that are like even how to build houses. I did
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a permaculture training in India. So I've pretty
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much seen the whole world. Got really inspired
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and got all this knowledge and then Adrian I
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did something that I don't regret but it was
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kind of a twist a plot twist in my own story
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is that I that I went to the Amazon rainforest
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because I wanted to see in Ecuador I wanted to
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see an experience like everybody talks about
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the Amazon rainforest It's the green lungs of
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our planet, but I really wanted to see and experience
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it with my own eyes So I traveled for like it
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was from keto the capital in in Ecuador I took
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a 12 -hour bus ride, then I went on a boat for
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another 20 hours and then another five hours
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on a small boat and I was like in the depth of
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the Amazon rainforest with an indigenous tour
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guide who had worked with National Geographic
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that you couldn't find him on the internet or
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some some synchronicities that lined up for me
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to meet with him and I spent several days in
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the Amazon rainforests. I saw so many beautiful
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things like trees Big as skyscrapers. I saw dolphins
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because it's full of dolphins there is one the
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Amazon rainforest. I saw crocodiles I saw Parrots
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monkeys like and even the guy he's an indigenous
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guy He said like I've never I've never experienced
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that in a in a trip I've been guiding people
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for 30 years and I've never seen that much animals
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and biodiversity like you're really lucky this
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time We even saw a tapir or the guide saw it,
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I've heard it, which is a small elephant. And
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if you go on the internet, there's very few pictures
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of them. They're very rare to spot because they're
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very sensitive animals, but we saw them. So it
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was a crazy experience. But then the plot twist
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came that after that trip, I became really sick
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because I got stung by a mosquito that had a
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tropical disease called dengue, which is kind
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of like malaria. You didn't get the dange that
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you didn't get the shot? You can't I think today
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you could do some dange shot but at that time
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it wasn't Oh, oh my gosh, okay So I I got really
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sick and it painful right too. Is it really painful?
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Oh, yeah, I was sick for for several weeks. I
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lost 10 kilos which I don't know how much that
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is in in Pounds, but I was like, yeah really
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skinny I couldn't eat for days but And at that
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moment is really one of the toughest fears in
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my life. But also my life from that moment, it
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went really downwards. My girlfriend dumped me.
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I had to move in back with my parents because
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I didn't have any more money yet. So I had to
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go back. And why am I telling you this is because
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for me it was kind of a blessing in disguise
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because I started to ask myself some deeper questions
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like why am I here? What am I doing here? And
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I started to realize that God has gifted me to
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see things into the future that we have to regenerate
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our planet, we have to take care of our planet.
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And so it was kind of a second chance for me
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to start actually doing something with it because
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I studied, I grew up on a farm, I had all the
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information and I was actually wanting to continue
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to do more research because I loved it. I had
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like a small remote job. I love surfing, but
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Mother Nature or God, whatever you or the universe,
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whatever you believe in, had a different plan
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for me. So from that really deep experience of
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those difficult moments, I decided, okay, you
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know what? I want to have impact in the world.
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How can I do it? It looks like I have to start
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my own business because it's business owners
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that change the world. So I said, okay, what
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can I do? I know garden designers. So I started
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out with garden designs and doing designs for
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homeowners. that are open to do it in a different
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way that is in harmony with nature. And actually
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oftentimes I don't really advertise that. I tell
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them just I create beautiful lush gardens that
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don't require a lot of maintenance because the
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beauty of the work that I do is when you work
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with nature and you understand how nature works,
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you can use that to your advantage and you create
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beautiful lush gardens that almost self maintain
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them. It's like you still have to do some care
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but you can get that outsourced by it. a gardener
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or you do it yourself and so I started working
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with people one -on -one and then from my experience
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I had one client who told me like hey it's like
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we had done a big portion of their property and
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they said I really love the work you've done
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it's so beautiful everything looks amazing but
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you know what I'm sick and tired of having a
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landscape architect I want to make my hands dirty
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myself and I want to do it myself I want to learn
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how to do it And I said, you know what? I'm going
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to teach you everything that I know that I've
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gathered over the last 10 years. And I'm going
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to create a course, a crash course in nine weeks.
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And that's where the Garden of Your Dreams Masterclass
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was born, where I now teach people online from
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all over the world how you can actually design,
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create, maintain, and your own garden. Even if
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you think that I hear people saying, I have a
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black thumb. I don't have a green thumb. I think
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that's a total lie. You can totally learn it.
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So I do that online and then now recently we're
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also getting into bigger development projects.
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So looking at your website. Do you want us to
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walk through your website? Yeah, sure. I have
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a question for you. You ever think to yourself,
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what if you were born in the middle of New York
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City? Still be gravitating towards plants or
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is it because you were living on a farm that
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you were like I'm so curious right like Are there
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are there kids out there right now in the middle
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of the cities that would just absolutely so interested
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in plants But don't have but I guess you could
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do plants anywhere's but Very interesting question
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nobody's ever asked me that but I think I believe
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that God has kind of a plan for you before He
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puts you on this planet. So it's kind of predestined
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I think that I was born on a farm and I also
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saw the dark side of farming which is a lot of
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chemicals and we're also working with farmers
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to change to regenerate the farming because my
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father started, he was 17. He bought in his first
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chemical sprayer when he was 21 and farming changed
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so fast to become a very complex system with
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a lot of chemistry and a lot of things that are
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not good for our environment. So there was also
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no mistake that I was put on such a farm and
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we are currently transforming it to a regenerative
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farm because my brother stepped into the business
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about 10 years ago as well and together even
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with my father who was changing his mindset because
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he had to do it in that way. The government was
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forcing him if he wouldn't have done it industrially.
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he would have gone bankrupt, like many of his
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colleagues. Wait, so where were you? I don't
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even know where this farm was located when you
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were... It's in Belgium. Oh, oh, interesting.
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And then the government said you have to start
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using pesticides? Well, I don't think they said
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it in such a way, but if you want, I can explain
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why we currently have one of the biggest challenges
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in the world, which is that we have over fertilized
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and completely destroyed the soils of our planet,
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which is creating one of the biggest challenges
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of our modern days, I believe, is climate change.
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It's not the wars and the social unrest. I even
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believe that it's a consequence of, or many of
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the conflicts happening today are a consequence
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of climate change. We might not know it, but
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like there's a lot of wars being fought for water,
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water scarcity. People are moving from different
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parts of the world because it becomes like Florida
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is even becoming difficult to to live because
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of all the storms that are happening more frequently.
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No insurance companies don't want to cover your
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house insurance anymore because it's just a matter
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of time before there's a destruction. So all
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of these elements are having a huge impact and
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it all it has to do with industrial revolution
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but also with farming that became devastating
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for our environment but also for our personal
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health, like a lot of the modern diseases are
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because of the processed food and all the chemicals.
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But though you might want to now start blaming
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people, right? It's very easy to say, ah, it's
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the fault of the farmers. It's the fault of pharmaceuticals.
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There's some evil forces, whatever. But I think
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that's really not helpful and even irrelevant.
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We have to look at the solutions. But just to
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give you a quick rundown of the history, of modern
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farming it all started after the second world
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war. So the second world war was over and during
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the first and second world war there was a lot
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of chemical warfare so chemicals that were being
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used for warfare and a lot of products that were
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used for the war and the war was over so all
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these products that were made to do big scale
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warfare were becoming useless and then they knew
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or they started to experiment with these chemicals
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like nitrogen which is used for bombs. It was
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already experimented before the first world war
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but they said okay now we have all these chemicals
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that we produced, what can we do with it? Oh
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we can actually solve another big problem that
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we have in the world after the second world war.
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The biggest problem was hunger. A lot of countries
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didn't have enough food. Europe was a complete
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disaster. It was completely destructed. No infrastructure,
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not enough food. You might remember the Irish
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hunger that was more in 1800, but like food security
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was a big problem after the Second World War.
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So we had that problem and we had all these chemicals.
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So some smart people the government said like
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hey why don't we solve that problem by using
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those chemicals into food production because
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when you use nitrogen your food production goes
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up very fast. So at the beginning it was kind
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of an ingenious system where we add a lot of
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chemicals to the soil, we do a bunch of chemical
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things and that boosts the yields of farms and
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it was a brilliant solution. But what they didn't
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realize, I mean, some early people were warning
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for it. But what we didn't realize is that as
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we were using all those chemicals, we are also
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destroying the health of the soil and the minerals
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we are depleting. We now have erosion problems
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all over the world. All the soil is running into
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the ocean with the rain. So we have a bunch of
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problems that came with this big scale mass production.
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not to talk about even the animal cruelty around
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how meat is produced. That's a whole other topic.
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But so we have this industrial complex situation,
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which is killing our planet, is killing our personal
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health. At the same time, we have resolved world
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hunger because we have too much food on the planet
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for the amount of people there are. Some people
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say like, oh, there's too many people on the
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planet. We cannot grow anymore. There's more
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than enough food on the planet. The only problem
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is the distribution. And if there's people that
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are in hunger, it's because of climate or warfare.
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But in theory, there's more than enough food
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on the planet. So we've pretty much resolved
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the hunger issue on our planet. But now we have
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other risks that came with solving that problem.
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We created a bunch of other problems that are
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having an impact on our lives. So that's kind
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of a short history of. of farming, and if that
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makes sense, it may sound a little complex, but...
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No, no, no, it's not. I mean, I didn't expect
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a lesson this morning, but I absolutely love
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it, and I can see farming, and you're so right
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here in where I live, Daytona Beach. the community
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of poor orange. Oh my gosh, everyone's in an
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upward one storm. But the funny thing is, is
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they're remembering that this never happened
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10 years ago. It's with all the development.
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So what you're saying makes sense. Let's go through
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your website, too, guys, because I like what
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you're doing is so interesting and so unique.
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So I love it. Just share with us the name. Where
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did you go with your name? So yeah, good. Polonia
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Landscape Architects is the company where we
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do We do like a done -for -you approach. We come
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to your property, we look at it, and we make
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a beautiful lush design. And then we take care
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of everything so that you just have to lean back
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and you enjoy a beautiful garden. And so the
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way we do it is that we do it in harmony with
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nature. Because as it turns out is when we start
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to understand how nature works. And that's what
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I covered in my book that has won an award that
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I launched. last year, which is the 12 universal
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laws of nature, is that when you understand how
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nature works, you can use that to your own advantage
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and you can create beautiful lush gardens with
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whatever you want. If it's flowers, edible things,
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obviously you have to look at the conditions
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of your soil and the country you're in and the
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climate, etc. But that's everything that we take
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care of and that wants you to create that garden.
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Our goal is to make it as low in maintenance
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as possible, because people don't have time to
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be working in their garden all the time, or most
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people don't have time for that. And it's not
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necessary. I see a lot of maintenance that is
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being done all over the world in gardening is
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kind of increasing the maintenance. I joke about
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it with a friend in Canada who's living in a
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community, like a homeowner association community.
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And I saw them doing like maintenance for their
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properties. And I joked like, look, they're doing
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maintenance to increase the maintenance because
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I have no clue how to do it properly, how to
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do it in harmony with nature. And so that's what
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I create. That's the type of gardens that I make
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for people. Beautiful. Hold on. I just want to
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write, get the book. Order the book. Oh my gosh,
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beautiful. I'm like going through, listening
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to you speak and sharing your vision and then
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looking at your website is lovely. So Matthew,
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I can't leave you without sharing with you. I
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think you should go on. If you want more clients
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too and community that really agrees with you,
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I'm gonna put it in the chat. Hold on, I'm gonna
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put the chat for you. I owe One of my favorite
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places to be and this This app is incredible.
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So it's all from people from all over so you
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mentioned Honduras and I said, oh There's people
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from Honduras Ecuador all through the globe.
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They're all business professionals. We've got
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chefs that cook There's like, you know, there's
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a video. It's it's really cool I kind of just
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show you really quickly but you could really
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show people and teach and this is what it's made
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from so actually Right now, I'm just going to
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show you this. What is the website again? Oh,
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I put it in the chat. Yeah, chattersocial .io.
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And then they're running a room. That opens it
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up and lets you choose where you want your system.
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You see, Jonathan and Leah are talking. These
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are the people that are in the room right now.
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Look at that cute article. She's teaching about
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the app. It works as like a social media platform.
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You can run rooms. You can monetize immediately.
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You could share the value and what you feel because
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nobody is doing that right now. There's some
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celebrities on here that very well known that
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people in the United States know and love. They're
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celebrities from all over. If you love Afro beats,
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some of the most amazing singers. So like it's
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very diverse. You can go on and learn how to
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play the guitar and you could talk politics about
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the new. Like you can learn about marketing branding
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or you can learn about how to make sense. So
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try to come on. So there's no charge. So come
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on and check it out. Cause I think that you would
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absolutely let me leave the room. You would love
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it. You already have a built in audience and
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you have plenty of people that really care. You're
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so knowledgeable about all these social media
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ways and online platforms. You're so knowledgeable
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about our earth, and I don't think that we can
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get enough lessons. So even though I live in
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an apartment resort style living, I don't have
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access to a garden. But my daughter, radishes,
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do you mean you just take the whole radish and
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throw it in? No, you take the seeds. You just
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buy some seeds. Oh, I thought you meant the whole
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radish, because they are like, I cannot even
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taste, I hate the taste of radishes, but what
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are like avocados you could plop in, right? So
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there's certain seeds that you don't even, you
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just have to plop it in. Yeah, most of the seeds
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of the world you can just plop them in, depending
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on only if they're hybrids. You have hybrids
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made by farm and pharmaceutical companies that
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they make them sterile. So you can't reuse the
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seeds, which is a kind of tricky way of fricking
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farmers and gardeners to buy seeds that you can't
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reproduce. Well, we just definitely need to support
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our farmers. We know that the news here is, you
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know, it can be very scary when you start hearing
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what's happening with the inflation and the farmers,
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but you are a treasure trove. So you guys buy
00:24:28.569 --> 00:24:32.230
the book, look at the course, go on the website.
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And let me, I just want to grab that website
00:24:35.390 --> 00:24:38.210
one more time to put it in here. So I'm going
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to put it in the chat so you guys can grab it.
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And if you have a podcast, if you're a podcast
00:24:44.809 --> 00:24:48.200
host. Consider having Matthew on as a guest because
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he's fantastic. I love my time with you. I really
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appreciate it So thank you so much. We are live
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:58.000
and then this is going to be turned into a podcast
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and I love I want to add you in my next book
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because Your content will turn out beautifully
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in a book So very excited I'm gonna I'm gonna
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try a preview chapter to show you what my podcast
00:25:13.420 --> 00:25:17.579
when this it's the the launch but for now Everyone
00:25:17.579 --> 00:25:20.339
who sees you will have your link in the information
00:25:20.339 --> 00:25:25.359
and you are amazing argue on LinkedIn Yes, okay,
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I'll reach out to you and connect with you if
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that's okay so that we can connect so I can tag
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you and Boy brave bold Handsome on the two M's
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the my favorite candy and now my favorite Wait,
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:45.819
what is your title? What what? Not like so you
00:25:45.819 --> 00:25:49.460
not your CEO, but what do you call yourself like
00:25:49.460 --> 00:25:52.059
a landscape architect? Is that your title? Yes,
00:25:52.099 --> 00:25:57.539
yes And that's what we also do I love that you
00:25:57.539 --> 00:25:59.500
followed your dreams. I love your story. And
00:25:59.500 --> 00:26:01.960
you started as, as how like, you know, you can
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:03.740
picture that young kid all of a sudden coming
00:26:03.740 --> 00:26:06.380
home and understanding and loving. There's so
00:26:06.380 --> 00:26:09.519
much beauty and joy in your story. I can't wait
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.160
to get your book. I want to share your story
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.160
for you come on chatter so we can meet and I
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can introduce you to some amazing people and
00:26:17.299 --> 00:26:21.380
there's some amazing developers On the United
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States, so I definitely you need to be in chatter
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.980
social and thank you so much for your time today
00:26:26.980 --> 00:26:29.579
Thank you for being patient because we had the
00:26:29.579 --> 00:26:32.720
hour before so I'm so glad that you said let's
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do it Let's do it an hour. That was brilliant
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.299
of you, too. That's why you're successful. You
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don't take You do it now, not later. So I love
00:26:40.339 --> 00:26:42.279
you for that. So thank you, Matthew. Anything
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.720
else that I missed that you want to share? No,
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I think you said it brilliantly. And I love what
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you said about the dream. And I feel like it's
00:26:49.700 --> 00:26:52.099
you have to follow your dream. Otherwise you'll
00:26:52.099 --> 00:26:54.900
have a miserable life. Don't chase other people's
00:26:54.900 --> 00:26:57.680
dreams or what other people think you should
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:02.960
do or dreams about only focusing on money. That's
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:07.809
that's not going to help. It's good to I'm now
00:27:07.809 --> 00:27:12.450
listening a lot to Jim Rohn's audio tapes. I
00:27:12.450 --> 00:27:13.910
don't know if you know Jim Rohn. I think he was
00:27:13.910 --> 00:27:17.150
the mentor of Tony Robbins. Oh, I know who you're
00:27:17.150 --> 00:27:20.150
talking about. And he says, yeah, you should
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go and make a million dollars. And you shouldn't
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just go make a million dollars. And that's it.
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In fact, when you make that million dollars,
00:27:28.089 --> 00:27:30.250
you could give it away immediately because it's
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useless. The very reason why you make a million
00:27:33.710 --> 00:27:37.140
dollars is it's more about the person you will
00:27:37.140 --> 00:27:40.599
become when you make that million dollars. That's
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what more valuable than the million dollars.
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Oh, I love that. And imagine a world where we
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didn't have to choose between organic and the
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lower price because all of our food is grown
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organically. Wouldn't that be amazing? Exactly.
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I got it. Yeah. Scary and I'm glad honestly my
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youngest is 19. She came back. She's safe now,
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but she's 19 And I have a granddaughter and it's
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scary because they have to watch everything that
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they put in her mouth and that's so Yeah, it's
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crazy. All right. I can't wait to learn from
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you come on chatter social so I can I can introduce
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you and Send me a message that you're there.
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So I immediately Okay, thank you