From Podcast to Published: Turning Conversations into Books with Sheila Slick

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We are live. There's Sheila Slick. Okay, a little

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different, a little different because I do know

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Sheila. So I could say she's absolutely beautiful,

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as you can see, and I could say she's bright,

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brilliant, and bold, but at the end of the day,

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I know Sheila. So Sheila, what? We got matching

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books. What, what, what, what? This? I just talked

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about this book. This is my book from Sheila,

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the founder of Pod2Book .ai. So Sheila, you create

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this program, you spend six months head down.

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Love it. Love it. You look so pretty. So you

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create the book. First of all, you have the idea

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of having a podcast. Let's hear the whole story.

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Sheila doesn't really, she listens to some podcasts

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and one day, one weekend when I go away. Sheila

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creates a podcast. So you got to hear the story.

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Well, first of all, I want to thank you for having

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me on your show today and for being an inspiration

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and a motivation in my life. And I think you're

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part of the reason how I even arrived to creating

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an app that turns podcast episodes and more into

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books. So thank you, Adrienne. And yes, a few

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years ago, I was co -chair and then chair of

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score where I was mentoring many aspiring business

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owners and existing business owners and how to

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leverage technology to, you know, start or grow

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their business. So my technology background dates

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back to about 15 years ago when I learned how

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to code. And fast forward to today, after completing

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score, I had that void where I wanted to continue

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meeting, you know, these fascinating entrepreneurial

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stories or stories that make an impact or stories

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of transformation. And I began guesting and being

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a guest on other people's show. And that's when.

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I decided to start my own show and. About 50

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episodes in, I start looking back and I'm thinking,

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wow, you know, all of these episodes are there.

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How can I preserve them? How can I share that

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same message, that same story in multiple formats?

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Because in the end, the message is beautiful.

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But maybe not everyone listens to podcasts. I

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know I'm a reader. And I also think there's something

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about legacy when you can preserve it in a paperback

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book. And in today's day and age where technology

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is still evolving, something like a CD, for example,

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if you don't have an external accessory, how

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else can you still listen to those songs that

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are in that CD or a cassette? So I think there's

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a beauty. in this same day and age where the

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paper book is priceless. I agree. And I want

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to take a second to point out the chapter with

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Summer Woods. Summer, who you may not know Summer.

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She's a beautiful young lady that plays the guitar

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in Pasadena, California. Loves, loves, loves

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weird Al Jankiewicz. And I'm sure he loves her.

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And she... has done so many different songs,

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but she probably wouldn't have an opportunity

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to be a contributing author in a book. So you

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gave the opportunity to shine spotlights and

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create a legacy for people that it may not even

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be in their future. And yet now she actually

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has a book with her name on it. Look up Summer

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Woods Music, by the way. I just absolutely love

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her. And Sheila, because of you, I've made a

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commitment to make sure that in every book that

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I have people that have not appeared in a book

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before and have the opportunity to go first time

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to see their subs in print because it really

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is a great feeling. Tell me about the green book,

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Milestone Moments. Tell me about that book. So

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that one is still in production. I've actually

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been helping other people. Publish their books

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because my initial idea was to take the podcast

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conversations like you did with unscripted brilliance

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and convert them in a book, but then I Wanted

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to create the same book that's been sitting on

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my desk where I wanted to share some of the very

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same practices that I feel I repeat over and

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over again with a lot of the consulting that

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I've done and I wanted a different format than

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yours. I wanted to test it. So this one I created

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a bit differently. These are so solo episodes

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where I first introduced myself and what the

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next 10 episodes were going to be about. And

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I broke it down into 10 chapters. So 10 audios,

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each breaking down. each practice that I wanted

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to share, and then I wrapped it up at the end.

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So my format's a bit different, because it also,

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part of the reason I wanted to share my first

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book, because now I'm addicted, Adrian, and I

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want to keep writing and speaking into the microphone,

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because I know I can just start telling it my

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story or my examples, and in the end, the format

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will be analyzed. and rewritten into that clean

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narrative. It's gonna take away all of those

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awkward sentences or perhaps I rambled. It'll

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clean all that up. So I feel really comfortable

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where I can just talk into the microphone and

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press record or press pause. And so once you

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have that outline, I was able even to go back

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into some of my learnings from my master's degree

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where I did a lot of writing. And I wanted to

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cite them. So in my book, I even included all

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of the citations when I'm referencing research

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or other people's work to make sure that it was

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properly cited. So I do want to make sure that

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people understand that this isn't an app where

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you're going to put in a prompt and two hours

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later, you're going to have a book ready to publish

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in Amazon. What the app does is it takes all

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of those audio files. First, it transcribes them

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into text, right? And it does it in chunks. And

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then it goes to a whole different AI where it

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analyzes that conversation. It rewrites it and

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transforms it. So You're not just reading the

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transcripts that came out of that conversation

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You're actually reading it in a whole different

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form. So I think that's the beauty of it It's

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like the calculator your outputs gonna depend

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on what you say in that conversation So that's

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where I want to make sure there's no misconception

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people thinking oh That's just AI writing a book

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I mean, I think of it like fried chicken, yum

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yum, that you have the secret recipe. I think

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I said this here. This is not something that

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someone can, well, share with me. In January,

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I wanted to do the book. And so I thought, okay,

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I'll feed each transcript into ChatGBT. And what

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happened? And then the second chapter, it forgot

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what I was asking for, was making mistakes, grabbing

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things from the first chapter. putting it into

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the second chapter and you know no no no this

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has to be individually then it would do one kind

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of right and then the next one and i was like

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sheila this is like almost three hours per chapter

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and i still it's aggravating anyways sheila before

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we continue i want to hear some of those reviews

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because i've gotten them too i i'll tell you

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what i've gotten a hundred thousand percent approved

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A lot of people are like, no edits except for

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my name, because how do you know, favor? That's

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a hard one. So the title will be bright. So we

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noticed that. Lance with two L's. That's been

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fixed, Lance. And so, but the different things

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that could go on. But the content on this book,

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the only time I ever saw anyone want to make

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a change is I feel like when they looked at it

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and thought, oh my gosh, this is so good. I forgot

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to talk about this. Let me add it to it. But

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nobody said oh, I didn't say that or those aren't

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the words I use but let's hear some of the beautiful

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reviews you've received well, I received one

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a day, but you're gonna make me teary -eyed because

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I know who's giving me this review and what he

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wrote and I wrote him back. I said that's almost

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The way that you felt when you received that

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recognition from the White House or the UN I

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said, but maybe not But it was that emotional

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for me because of who was giving me feedback

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on what their manuscript looked like. And so

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I think the beauty is when you are able to share

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a chapter which I'm doing with a lot of the guests

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on my podcast, because it's really important

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for them to read. what they said right so they

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can listen to the episode and then they can read

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how it analyzed and rewrote the episode and it

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does extract a lot of the quotes as well right

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so to receive that feedback from someone that

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knows what he or she said and then come back

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and say sheila i loved it or on capital letters

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omg i had no idea ai could do this with storytelling

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and I guess I get proud of that moment because

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It took me a while to perfect that Output right

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because I'll feel huh Six months Sheila head

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down Well, I'm a perfectionist Adrian, you know

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that I don't like to do anything You know half

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halfway. I'll leave it clean. I don't want this

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episode to be marked as explicit So oh no foul

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language, but you know when I do something it

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represents me it represents my brand and When

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you've been in business, and you know the importance

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of that. I thought I can't Make public anything.

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That's not good enough for me, and I guess you

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know, the proof is in my hands right now. I have

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my name and I'm very proud of my first book.

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And I didn't imagine that this tool, I thought

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it was for podcasters. Let's just repurpose the

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content. But the more and more I am receiving

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feedback and a meeting with a lot of people,

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it means a lot when I learn or I speak with the

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publishers who say, Sheila, A lot of times, ghost

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writers or, you know, the way that the books

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are created is by compiling these notes or we

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interview them. And so your tool is saving us

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so many hours and it gives you the foundation.

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The manuscript is a rough draft. It's your first

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step when you're going to look for a publisher

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or you're going to self -publish. And so when

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the editor or the publisher says, This is a wonderful

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tool that I get really teary -eyed to because

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it's taking me in that direction When originally

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and this is the importance of testing and validating

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ideas, right? What is in your mind and that idea?

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May not end up being what that final end product

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may look like you have to you know Get that feedback.

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You have to validate the product. You have to

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spend many hours having these one -on -one conversations

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with the users? I have to say, I've seen it in

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action, so I totally understand. And that's why

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I keep saying to you, it really is a secret sauce

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that you have and how you work it. And it's fantastic.

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And I love that you had mentioned about an event

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and then I kind of took it to another level because

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we were able to also show how this book can go

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from event to page, which I love. So the event

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on chatter, 22 speakers, two full days. Don't

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expect this all the time, but Sheila within 24

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hours after the event ended, had the baseline

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manuscript for all of the speakers to look at.

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And they're in shock too. And this money really,

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I mean this money, my head is going because this

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is kind of money. For podcast hosts, this is

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the money. Like this is another one. You're thinking

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sponsors and they, you know, where can I get

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money? Ad revenue maybe, sponsorships maybe,

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maybe you're charging your guests to come on

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the podcast. Maybe you're charging them to produce

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the podcast. Maybe you're charging them for all

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the clips and all the other things. How about

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charging them? How about giving them the opportunity

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to be in a book that is worth its value? And

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honestly, we're not going to tell you what the

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value is because you could price it yourself

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depending on what qualities you have, right?

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Shil, if you're a great artist, if you know how

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to do cover, if you've already published before,

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well, you've now got an amazing program that,

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in essence, you can white label. So I'm actually

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working with some of my clients on white labeling

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certain solutions where the output won't be a

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book for Amazon and it is so industry specific

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that I'm having a ball, you know, even working

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on the code a bit because it's not changing the

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infrastructure. It's just changing a portion

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of that code. So it's not going to affect pod

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to book as is this'll just be perhaps a niche

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tool for that specific industry. And You know

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if you have more ideas your podium to page which

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if you want to learn more visit podium to page

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calm because you can see the process and When

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you said that it took 12 hours or within 24 hours

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to provide a manuscript Pato book AI Processed

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it in about three what took so long the hardest

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part of the process was we had 18 hours of video

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that had to get chopped up or cut up into 18

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individual videos. But that was our learning

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curve, right? How is this one event going to

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be turned into a manuscript? And I'm looking

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forward to seeing it published very soon. And

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that process required everyone revising their

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own chapter, making sure it was what they said

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it was their voice and it represented. their

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expertise because they were all experts. And

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what I absolutely loved is that you tied in each

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presentation with the SWOT. So it's important

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to have a theme tying it in together. So this

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anthology or this summit book, you had everyone

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tie in the strength, the weakness, the opportunity,

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and the threat of their business or industry.

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And so each chapter, Reveals that no matter what

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the business was or who the expert is and you

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know what their topic was it ties it all in and

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I believe you're working on an event in December.

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That's also being turned into a book. I'm personally

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participating in an event As well that we are

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turning into a book And I learned a few little

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tricks along the way by having participated with

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yours. So thank you again. I love it, Sheila.

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I actually have to say, when we talk about building

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a business and taking podium to page, which is

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really using Sheila's idea about what we did

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was we we also had a longer thought to this right

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so that we're going to have the podcast which

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we already have 22 episodes so we have the podcast

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already and then we're actually going to be doing

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swats with clients so good because at the end

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of the day whatever you call it you really do

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very well if you have an outsider look into your

00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.299
business and see what those strengths, weaknesses,

00:17:04.700 --> 00:17:06.619
opportunities, and threats. And Sheila and I

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have been doing it for many years through score.

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I'm no longer with, neither of us are no longer

00:17:10.220 --> 00:17:12.559
with score, but that doesn't take away all the

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experience of the many hours. And Sheila, so

00:17:15.420 --> 00:17:17.460
very excited about that. And guys, if you've

00:17:17.460 --> 00:17:19.319
got an event, why are you just doing an event?

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That's crazy. And you want to charge your speakers?

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Charge them five times more, because you're going

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to give them in a book. So talk to Sheila or

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myself, we will help you. Now my next book, Sheila,

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I'm so excited because there's so many, you know,

00:17:34.069 --> 00:17:35.730
etiquette books out there, right? And I have

00:17:35.730 --> 00:17:37.650
many of those etiquette books because I learned

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too, but I always felt that there's like a debate.

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Do you call in sick? Do you not call in sick?

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Do you allow your employees to call in sick or

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do you tell them to stay home? Like, so I created

00:17:47.349 --> 00:17:51.009
the first AI ever podcast driven from something

00:17:51.009 --> 00:17:52.809
you shared with me. And I'm like, Oh my God.

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And within that weekend, I think I had like eight

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episodes already done. I want to, I want a book.

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Professional Global Etiquette podcast. I'm not

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going to change it. No fancy name. It's the name

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of the business I've had for 10 years. And that,

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I already have 20 episodes. I can only pick 15.

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So you guys, it's really hard because I love

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all of my debates, but I'll pick the 15, my favorite.

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And my next book, also after Swat and Order,

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which will be, the Swat and Order book will be

00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.539
the Swat and Order team. There's not one particular

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author because we're a team. We've all worked

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together. So. That's it, by the way. And all

00:18:27.829 --> 00:18:29.529
the sponsors get their own page in the back of

00:18:29.529 --> 00:18:31.130
the book. So I'm excited about that. But Sheila,

00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:34.430
what I'm trying to say is that I'm really excited

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to do this book on the Professional Global Etiquette

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podcast. And they're only between 14 and 17 minutes

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long. So the idea is that if you don't even want

00:18:44.549 --> 00:18:49.170
to record anything, use an AI program and have

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that become your book. And I bet you there's

00:18:51.549 --> 00:18:53.650
a million other things that can be done. So you've

00:18:53.650 --> 00:18:56.329
got your, show your book again. And everyone,

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get this book. It's amazing. Momentum. Daily

00:19:00.289 --> 00:19:02.250
practices to build your business and thrive.

00:19:02.470 --> 00:19:04.269
Shiel is showing a picture of it. Lovely light

00:19:04.269 --> 00:19:08.049
green color. Thrive is in yellow. And take a

00:19:08.049 --> 00:19:11.089
look at it. It's great price. And we need, Shiel

00:19:11.089 --> 00:19:13.170
and I are so different. Shiel is very process

00:19:13.170 --> 00:19:15.970
driven, a perfectionist. I'm kind of the opposite.

00:19:16.250 --> 00:19:20.230
I jump in and I just keep swimming. So it's a

00:19:20.230 --> 00:19:22.690
fun combination. you know I need more Sheila

00:19:22.690 --> 00:19:24.150
and Sheila probably needs a little more of me

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and that balance is really found in that book

00:19:26.630 --> 00:19:29.089
where I could take the advice and say okay this

00:19:29.089 --> 00:19:31.289
makes sense to me this I'm going to do a little

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different because I'm not as I'm not as process

00:19:34.109 --> 00:19:36.309
as Sheila is but this is how Sheila could put

00:19:36.309 --> 00:19:39.170
her head down for six months March April May

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June July well maybe it's a little earlier but

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it was full months that you all you did was pod

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to book. How did you even, how do you code and

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do all the work every day? I can't even, I mean,

00:19:52.500 --> 00:19:56.059
wow. You're gonna have to read the book if you

00:19:56.059 --> 00:19:59.140
want. That same question you're asking me is

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why I built this book where I share some of the

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practices on how. You can take something to the

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finish line during the hardest part How do you

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keep momentum when that initial idea that is

00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:17.019
so exciting and it just sounds so wonderful at

00:20:17.019 --> 00:20:20.700
the beginning? how do you get through the boring

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and the consistency and Wearing multiple hats

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at once because when you're developing that that's

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not feeding me my businesses So now you're having

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a wear multiple hats you need, you know Mental

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you still need to spend time with family. You

00:20:38.180 --> 00:20:41.480
have a lot going on You have your clients and

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that's exactly the premise why I built this and

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it's all over the place and I give examples Even

00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:51.519
of some of my own mistakes So I keep this by

00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:54.859
my bedside as a reminder if I if I'm having an

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issue I built it like a toolbox. It's ten tools

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depending what you're struggling with that's

00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:05.130
You know the medicine for that particular problem.

00:21:05.230 --> 00:21:07.490
That's a practice. But I wanted to go back to

00:21:07.490 --> 00:21:10.210
what you were saying when you said you're on

00:21:10.210 --> 00:21:14.809
your 20th episode on your AI powered etiquette

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where they're debating, which I think is genius,

00:21:17.809 --> 00:21:20.049
right? Because there's always so many different

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perspectives to especially when you incorporate

00:21:23.809 --> 00:21:26.750
etiquette and you're dealing with cultures and,

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you know, a variety of ways to do something properly

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or diplomatically, so to speak. is an inside

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secret. When you're publishing books and you

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have a series, you're kind of marrying them to

00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.880
each other. And so the algorithms like Amazon,

00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:53.940
they prefer to have these bundles. And so when

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one book pops up, the other books are tied together.

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So, If you're looking to publish and you go in,

00:22:02.410 --> 00:22:04.970
OK, I'm going to do three series or three different

00:22:04.970 --> 00:22:09.109
volumes. When you're promoting your third volume,

00:22:09.630 --> 00:22:13.049
that first volume that perhaps isn't that new

00:22:13.049 --> 00:22:16.529
release will still be popping up and people that

00:22:16.529 --> 00:22:19.680
like your third one may say. Adrian has, you

00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:22.119
know, parts one or part two, it becomes almost

00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:24.359
like a Netflix series how you have different

00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.960
seasons. So if you like one, now you're kind

00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:31.599
of wanting more, right? You're left with that

00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.519
cliffhanger where I want to watch that next season.

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So consider your books that way. And the way

00:22:37.900 --> 00:22:41.359
that I have it packaged right now is that you

00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:47.440
can buy one book credit up to 15 episodes. at

00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:51.619
about 5 ,000 words each. And so when you size

00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:55.259
it down and you format it to a six by nine, you're

00:22:55.259 --> 00:22:59.279
looking at a 200 -page book. So if you want more

00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:03.660
than that, yes, and you don't want an encyclopedia

00:23:03.660 --> 00:23:06.980
all at once because Amazon also has a limit on

00:23:06.980 --> 00:23:11.960
how big a book can be, you can buy And I'm gonna

00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:14.779
rename it to the series package instead of the

00:23:14.779 --> 00:23:18.779
pro package where you can buy five book credits

00:23:18.779 --> 00:23:21.759
get a significant discount because you're buying

00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:25.859
five credits and each credit allows you to run

00:23:25.859 --> 00:23:29.460
up to 15 episodes at once and so then you can

00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:32.440
tie them together because the manuscript is delivered

00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.940
in Word and so it is meant for you, you know

00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:39.160
to make sure that you go back and edit, you may

00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:42.859
want to change the font. You need to add that

00:23:42.859 --> 00:23:46.079
special dedication, right? You have a dedication

00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:49.019
page. So when you receive that manuscript, it

00:23:49.019 --> 00:23:53.579
does come with either templates or prewritten

00:23:53.579 --> 00:23:56.779
meant for you to rewrite, you know, your dedication

00:23:56.779 --> 00:24:02.019
ain't mine and your disclaimer ain't mine. It

00:24:02.019 --> 00:24:04.539
does come with, you know, the cover page, of

00:24:04.539 --> 00:24:08.490
course, I change my beautiful. It does come with

00:24:08.490 --> 00:24:11.509
a copyright page. Now you have to say, you know,

00:24:11.630 --> 00:24:13.990
who your cover design was. I don't know who your

00:24:13.990 --> 00:24:16.809
cover designer was. You have to put in your own

00:24:16.809 --> 00:24:19.289
ISBA and that's not included when you're running,

00:24:19.289 --> 00:24:22.430
you know, the app. I've included a disclaimer

00:24:22.430 --> 00:24:26.329
page. So this is all the interior pages that

00:24:26.329 --> 00:24:28.630
are included in that manuscript when you run

00:24:28.630 --> 00:24:32.250
it. And the table of contents, you have to insert

00:24:32.250 --> 00:24:37.960
it yourself because that manuscript, can be formatted

00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.619
for paperback and it can be formatted for ebook

00:24:41.619 --> 00:24:46.480
and So each format requires a different kind

00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:50.220
of table of contents. The ebooks are meant to

00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:55.400
be more dynamic and Depending on the user settings

00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:58.579
on their tablet or on their phone Will depend

00:24:58.579 --> 00:25:02.720
how many pages that book has right? So your book

00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:07.970
on an iPhone may have 400 pages on an iPad, it

00:25:07.970 --> 00:25:11.029
may have 300 because the iPad has a bigger screen.

00:25:11.730 --> 00:25:15.109
And in your paperback, it has 180. And so we

00:25:15.109 --> 00:25:18.109
can't control the user settings in the ebook.

00:25:18.869 --> 00:25:21.490
And I'm not going to get too technical. The whole

00:25:21.490 --> 00:25:26.190
bottom line is that those interior pages are

00:25:26.190 --> 00:25:31.569
meant for you to have to do some work in making

00:25:31.569 --> 00:25:35.700
sure that it works, you know, for you and it's

00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:39.500
your dedication and your table of contents. Yeah,

00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:41.240
that's what we're doing. So for SWOT and order

00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:42.940
and hi, Jonathan, if you want to come up, just

00:25:42.940 --> 00:25:46.740
let me know the for SWOT and order. So Jonathan's

00:25:46.740 --> 00:25:48.980
working as the honorary host. He's working on

00:25:48.980 --> 00:25:51.200
his back page. And then I'm like, let's add a

00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.200
QR code. You know, let's put that in there. That'll

00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:55.380
be nice for the sponsors, not for the speakers,

00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:59.059
but for the sponsors and, you know, Debbie and

00:25:59.059 --> 00:26:03.880
Jonathan and you, Julie. I think that makes another

00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.140
special gift. As a matter of fact, I've been

00:26:05.140 --> 00:26:07.599
talking about how this makes an amazing gift

00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.359
for nonprofits that are holding golf tournaments

00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:14.039
or any nonprofit event. You have your chair actually

00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.660
interview your board of director members, pick

00:26:16.660 --> 00:26:19.019
us some members out, maybe pick last year's golf

00:26:19.019 --> 00:26:21.599
winner, and then look at now you're not just

00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.990
selling hole in ones. or mulligans, you're selling

00:26:24.990 --> 00:26:26.769
your book, which I think is really incredible.

00:26:27.670 --> 00:26:30.609
So I've got my next book is going to be the Professional

00:26:30.609 --> 00:26:33.569
Global Etiquette podcast, Podmatch book. I've

00:26:33.569 --> 00:26:37.690
done the 15 of the community members of Podmatch

00:26:37.690 --> 00:26:40.690
and along with the founder of Podmatch. That's

00:26:40.690 --> 00:26:42.750
the next book. Thinking of sticking, if you guys,

00:26:42.829 --> 00:26:44.230
what do you think? I was thinking of this color,

00:26:44.390 --> 00:26:46.990
my orange, I mean, same book cover, but just

00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:49.890
changing the cover to a nice green. But Sheila,

00:26:50.009 --> 00:26:53.779
next year, 2026. I'm excited. Okay, so let's

00:26:53.779 --> 00:26:56.400
go so January. Where are you going? I heard you're

00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:01.059
a sponsor of two of them. We are going to Orlando

00:27:01.059 --> 00:27:09.259
We are part of podfest 2026 it is in Orlando,

00:27:09.259 --> 00:27:13.779
Florida a three -day event there will be thousands

00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:17.779
of podcasters and They also have an author track.

00:27:17.779 --> 00:27:22.019
So we're gonna get to meet all kinds of aspiring

00:27:22.019 --> 00:27:25.660
authors, publishers, authors, podcasters, and

00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:29.559
there's tons of booths. We will have one and

00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.000
we are going to have a collection of all the

00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.599
books that have been generated using Pato Bouquet

00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:39.000
Eye so that we can give them away, right? So

00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.079
that people that want to learn more or fall in

00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.119
love with the format, it works for marketing.

00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:46.619
These are marketing materials. Why give away

00:27:46.619 --> 00:27:49.079
a business card when you can give away a book

00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.519
and I received one in the mail today. Let me

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.579
see if it's here. Oh, I have to find it from

00:27:55.579 --> 00:27:59.859
David Meltzer. Oh, I love David. No, it was genius.

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:06.539
I signed up. It was through Clubhouse. And because

00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:09.779
you joined and replied in the email list, he

00:28:09.779 --> 00:28:11.599
said, I'm going to send you a copy of my book.

00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.619
And it was so beautiful to open up this package

00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:17.900
and not just receive a book, but an autograph

00:28:17.900 --> 00:28:22.150
book. I thought oh now I know I you know I'm

00:28:22.150 --> 00:28:24.750
just I'm really loving the format and I'm now

00:28:24.750 --> 00:28:26.990
you're going to be a fan and he's on I think

00:28:26.990 --> 00:28:30.289
Fridays but uh yeah follow him on BWC. I actually

00:28:30.289 --> 00:28:34.029
caught him live the other day and um I got off

00:28:34.029 --> 00:28:36.349
talking to you I think and I went to go listen

00:28:36.349 --> 00:28:38.950
because I I absolutely I'm a David Meltzer fan.

00:28:39.309 --> 00:28:42.369
Okay so we've got and then where are we going

00:28:42.369 --> 00:28:49.210
after PodFest Orlando? First, in November, you're

00:28:49.210 --> 00:28:53.170
all invited to join us virtually in CreativeCon

00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:58.490
Amped, where I will be one of the presenters.

00:28:58.769 --> 00:29:03.049
And it is an incredible community, a very intelligent,

00:29:03.349 --> 00:29:06.170
bright, creative, step out of your comfort zone.

00:29:07.230 --> 00:29:10.150
Bold beautiful people. I just don't know how

00:29:10.150 --> 00:29:14.369
else to describe that energy and in February

00:29:14.369 --> 00:29:18.650
you have the opportunity to join and meet all

00:29:18.650 --> 00:29:22.670
of these people and They're special guests and

00:29:22.670 --> 00:29:25.509
their lineup of speakers. These are like meet

00:29:25.509 --> 00:29:29.230
-and -greet, but you also learn and That's in

00:29:29.230 --> 00:29:33.549
Chicago and that is creative con creative see

00:29:33.549 --> 00:29:40.250
our E8, the number eight like eternity, T -I

00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:45.170
-V -E dot com. And the co -founders are Julie

00:29:45.170 --> 00:29:49.829
Loken and Dominic Domanski. So, so Gary helped

00:29:49.829 --> 00:29:53.390
interview Julie today and he wrote to me and

00:29:53.390 --> 00:29:56.170
he said he loved her. I mean, I'm like, of course,

00:29:56.549 --> 00:29:58.990
who doesn't love Julie Loken? Like if you don't

00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:02.400
even know who Julie Loken is, then. that I apologize

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.400
to you, I feel bad for you. Like that is, that

00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:09.259
is just, she's just an amazing woman. And when

00:30:09.259 --> 00:30:11.619
I met her dad, I, you know, me crying because

00:30:11.619 --> 00:30:14.640
all I could think of is like, sir, you had like,

00:30:15.019 --> 00:30:16.759
how did you get birth to this amazing woman?

00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.519
So not how did you, cause obviously the mother,

00:30:19.660 --> 00:30:21.779
but you know, anyways, Julie, we love you. Okay.

00:30:21.819 --> 00:30:24.039
So we've got, so that's just the start of the

00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.269
year. There's a lot going to be taking place

00:30:26.269 --> 00:30:29.369
with pod to book, podium to page. I did want

00:30:29.369 --> 00:30:33.170
to say one thing Sheila, also going back to the

00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:35.009
idea that this could be the foundation of your

00:30:35.009 --> 00:30:37.690
business and with Jonathan and SWAT in order

00:30:37.690 --> 00:30:40.049
and I just have to confirm I really want to make

00:30:40.049 --> 00:30:43.109
sure that Jonathan is like 100 % yes as the co

00:30:43.109 --> 00:30:45.730
-host because he's such an amazing human being

00:30:45.730 --> 00:30:50.029
and I see this generating income but I also will

00:30:50.029 --> 00:30:52.390
say that this is a really strong way to get your

00:30:52.390 --> 00:30:55.029
business started. So a lot of people, it takes

00:30:55.029 --> 00:30:56.829
time to even, well, first of all, some people

00:30:56.829 --> 00:30:59.430
don't even have a Google My Business page, so.

00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:01.720
And I think it's harder to get from what you

00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.339
told me, Sheila. But have you ever Googled your

00:31:04.339 --> 00:31:06.299
business? Where does it pop up? I will tell you,

00:31:06.339 --> 00:31:09.220
within five days of the slot in order, when you

00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:11.799
Google, the AI has picked up every article I

00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:13.859
wrote, every LinkedIn, every Facebook, the LinkedIn

00:31:13.859 --> 00:31:17.579
event, all the 45 days of posting. I didn't stop

00:31:17.579 --> 00:31:21.140
posting. Once I had the idea and got the commitments

00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:24.779
from everyone, that moved along for the 45 days.

00:31:25.059 --> 00:31:26.759
So what I'm trying to say is that when you are

00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.660
looking, people say, well, how do I get found?

00:31:29.099 --> 00:31:32.019
This whole idea of starting a podcast, turning

00:31:32.019 --> 00:31:34.980
it into a book, whether you do it solo or you

00:31:34.980 --> 00:31:38.180
actually do it with guests, that is one way to

00:31:38.180 --> 00:31:41.359
really get yourself sticky. I mean, I feel very

00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.720
sticky with SWOT in order. I'm comfortable as

00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.819
long as someone understands SWOT. and the Amphicite

00:31:47.819 --> 00:31:50.880
in order or A &D in order, I will pop up. They

00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.000
won't be like, where is this? I can't find it.

00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.900
And I contribute that to really the whole premise

00:31:55.900 --> 00:31:58.579
of how to do something like that. I only created

00:31:58.579 --> 00:32:00.460
this story because Jonathan is the reason why,

00:32:00.579 --> 00:32:03.759
because I had his idea of storytelling and your

00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:06.339
idea of turning it from event to a page. But

00:32:06.339 --> 00:32:09.099
I just want to say that. So it's also a great

00:32:09.099 --> 00:32:11.420
way to take your business and move it forward.

00:32:11.869 --> 00:32:15.289
by doing this. So you get Sheila's book, and

00:32:15.289 --> 00:32:17.289
then you start a podcast. And by the way, it

00:32:17.289 --> 00:32:19.990
is not difficult starting a podcast. And I think

00:32:19.990 --> 00:32:22.109
we have packages. Sheila has a package to help

00:32:22.109 --> 00:32:25.250
you if you want to start a podcast. That's not

00:32:25.250 --> 00:32:27.529
the problem. It's what happens with a podcast.

00:32:27.690 --> 00:32:30.589
And too many people start a podcast. I don't

00:32:30.589 --> 00:32:34.049
know what the numbers are, but only a small percentage

00:32:34.049 --> 00:32:36.809
make it after 10 episodes. Do you know that?

00:32:38.019 --> 00:32:41.440
idea when I see the insights I feel like a superhero,

00:32:41.579 --> 00:32:45.900
but my milestones 100 and Thanks to pod match.

00:32:45.900 --> 00:32:48.700
I don't know. I have Alex. I'm interviewing him

00:32:48.700 --> 00:32:52.619
in January and he did too good of a job programming

00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:56.700
that AI because it's just amazing the quality

00:32:56.700 --> 00:33:02.180
guests and How it is so intelligently, you know

00:33:02.180 --> 00:33:04.859
suggesting and connecting the host with the gifts.

00:33:04.859 --> 00:33:09.710
So kudos to you Alex and the boss of the founder,

00:33:10.289 --> 00:33:13.690
his wife, because her customer service, and I

00:33:13.690 --> 00:33:15.970
was talking about this with my husband yesterday.

00:33:16.349 --> 00:33:19.930
And I said, Hold on, someone sending support

00:33:19.930 --> 00:33:24.390
from Pata book AI, asking me how to be able to

00:33:24.390 --> 00:33:27.329
process more than 15 of her speeches. And I said,

00:33:27.490 --> 00:33:30.190
I'm going to answer her back. I said, Imagine

00:33:30.190 --> 00:33:33.190
a big giant company. I'm not going to mention

00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:37.009
any names, but we all know who these giant companies

00:33:37.009 --> 00:33:40.250
are. You can't even get through the bots, Adrian.

00:33:40.769 --> 00:33:43.329
Sometimes you can't even like cancel an account

00:33:43.329 --> 00:33:48.250
or you can't get help for two weeks. And here

00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:52.210
I am, the founder, the CTO saying I'm willing

00:33:52.210 --> 00:33:54.490
to pick up the phone. You can text me, you can

00:33:54.490 --> 00:33:57.329
email me, we can set up a meeting. Let's discuss.

00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:03.779
your specific needs and My hats to Alex and his

00:34:03.779 --> 00:34:08.039
wife that at this point have built such a beautiful

00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.579
Network and an app that has really evolved. I

00:34:12.579 --> 00:34:15.420
mean I can appreciate the size and the infrastructure

00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:21.500
They've paid out over 1 million dollars to the

00:34:21.500 --> 00:34:24.900
hosts, I believe I saw them sharing that and

00:34:25.420 --> 00:34:28.079
Here I wanted to re -invite my guest and I'm

00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.900
like, hold on. I don't know how to do it through

00:34:29.900 --> 00:34:32.000
pot to match I'm still you know, figuring out

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.900
the system and She answered like within an hour.

00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.820
I put a support ticket and it's her and she's

00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:42.219
like she loved her the time being You can only

00:34:42.219 --> 00:34:44.739
you know do one at a time. You can use her calendar

00:34:44.739 --> 00:34:46.780
and so forth She gave me the explanation and

00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:50.000
I thought how beautiful that I've got customer

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.760
support and a human so realize that not all companies

00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:58.539
that are leveraging AI don't have humans behind

00:34:58.539 --> 00:35:03.139
them and embrace and cherish those that do because

00:35:03.139 --> 00:35:07.199
we're all at the end competing against these

00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.760
huge, huge, huge, huge corporations that sometimes

00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.989
they don't value your business like we do. Stop

00:35:14.989 --> 00:35:18.369
it. I have to say, so Alex was saying to me,

00:35:18.710 --> 00:35:20.650
and he may be listening to this one, he, I guess

00:35:20.650 --> 00:35:22.909
he had walked by, he was listening to the podcast

00:35:22.909 --> 00:35:26.349
and I was talking about him. Oh, I think it was

00:35:26.349 --> 00:35:29.469
with Rachel Allen, a really cool guest. And he

00:35:29.469 --> 00:35:32.090
said, thank you, Adrienne. his wife's like, wait,

00:35:32.349 --> 00:35:34.570
why are you thinking, what is that? He's like,

00:35:34.610 --> 00:35:37.769
oh, let me show you. And so he showed her that

00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:40.210
I just happened to be talking about him. Because

00:35:40.210 --> 00:35:44.449
every episode of the 15, including this one,

00:35:44.789 --> 00:35:48.349
because they're pod matches, community members,

00:35:49.329 --> 00:35:51.550
of course I'm mentioning him. So as I mentioned,

00:35:51.769 --> 00:35:53.769
chatter social and everything I do. But anyways,

00:35:54.010 --> 00:35:56.510
I love that Sheila. So today, I actually, when

00:35:56.510 --> 00:36:00.940
I interviewed him, I said, can we look, can we

00:36:00.940 --> 00:36:03.480
go behind the scenes? So he gave me a tutorial

00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.260
on how the workflow really works because I was

00:36:06.260 --> 00:36:08.619
confused with all of that. And he said, he thought

00:36:08.619 --> 00:36:10.119
it was funny because he's never really actually

00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.599
done that on a PADCAST interview where someone's

00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:14.940
taking him and showing, but it was good. I learned

00:36:14.940 --> 00:36:19.460
a lot. I got a one -to -one tutorial and he was

00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:24.530
proud of all the reviews I have. You know, it's

00:36:24.530 --> 00:36:26.250
just a great program. He's got some great plans

00:36:26.250 --> 00:36:30.829
for next year, excited to meet him. And I was

00:36:30.829 --> 00:36:32.849
one of the ones that got a little money paid.

00:36:32.929 --> 00:36:36.829
So I was excited about that. So yay to the commission

00:36:36.829 --> 00:36:39.849
idea, yay to everything he's doing. He's an amazing

00:36:39.849 --> 00:36:43.210
guy, handsome too, really lovely human. Sheila,

00:36:43.389 --> 00:36:44.570
I kept trying to think, is there anything that

00:36:44.570 --> 00:36:46.590
I did not ask you that I should have asked you

00:36:46.590 --> 00:36:49.590
as we're talking about? Pod to book, podium to

00:36:49.590 --> 00:36:53.300
page. Well since we are gonna turn this conversation

00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:55.719
into a chapter so that I can be a chapter in

00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.940
your book Adrian Why don't we go over the key

00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:03.360
takeaways? That we want to be highlighted so

00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:09.500
part two book turns conversations into Manuscripts

00:37:09.500 --> 00:37:14.360
so that you can then edit revise and publish

00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:20.340
and turn them into books and it can work for

00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:24.079
your podcast, if you have individual audios of

00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.139
sessions, thanks to other collaborators I've

00:37:28.139 --> 00:37:31.239
met along the way, like Natalie, and she's out

00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.900
in Europe, she actually has a tool where even

00:37:36.900 --> 00:37:39.880
if you don't have a podcast, you can create your

00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.980
own RSS feed. And that's actually getting tested

00:37:42.980 --> 00:37:46.179
as we're speaking, a book is being generated.

00:37:47.710 --> 00:37:50.769
with individual conversations that have been

00:37:50.769 --> 00:37:54.030
stitched up from the audios and then uploaded

00:37:54.030 --> 00:37:58.389
to a unique RSS feed. So it is not a podcast.

00:37:58.510 --> 00:38:02.570
They're still with the feed. And so once we get

00:38:02.570 --> 00:38:05.150
that one down packed, I need to make sure that

00:38:05.150 --> 00:38:08.369
that's something that any user understands, that

00:38:08.369 --> 00:38:10.929
they don't have to be a podcaster to be able

00:38:10.929 --> 00:38:14.250
to use the tool. Third, if you have an event,

00:38:14.329 --> 00:38:19.599
whether in person, or a summit, record it, and

00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.400
those audios can be broken down into individual

00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:27.119
audios so that each one is a chapter in your

00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:31.980
book. Those are our key takeaways. You can join

00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:37.679
us virtually or in person at CreativeCon Amped

00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:43.320
and PodFest and CreativeCon in February in chilly

00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.139
Chicago. I know, I'm so excited. Wait, can I

00:38:47.139 --> 00:38:49.199
give a few more key takeaways? Add this to the

00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.440
key takeaways. You can make money. You can charge

00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:57.639
your guest to be in the book. You can use it

00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:02.260
as a fundraiser. So if you have a chamber, chambers

00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:05.659
are great. Chambers should be, every chamber

00:39:05.659 --> 00:39:08.340
could do an interview with their entire board

00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:11.119
of directors. They usually have about 15. If

00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.599
it's only 10, that's great. And now you have

00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:17.380
a Chamber of Commerce book highlighting your

00:39:17.380 --> 00:39:19.519
entire board because once they go off, it's such

00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.820
a lovely thing. So there's so many different

00:39:21.820 --> 00:39:24.840
things that you could do with it and to make

00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:26.500
extra money, which is what people are looking

00:39:26.500 --> 00:39:29.559
for nowadays. So I love the whole idea. I love

00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.860
everything that you just said regarding the key

00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:33.860
takeaways. And it's fun how you could create

00:39:33.860 --> 00:39:36.519
the book this way. I also, there was one other

00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.039
thing I wanted to say, but just try to think

00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.769
of what it is. So hold on. my crazy fans out

00:39:41.769 --> 00:39:47.469
there, one of you. Oh gosh you're so beautiful

00:39:47.469 --> 00:39:49.429
you kind of like because when I look at you I

00:39:49.429 --> 00:39:51.690
just you know I just your smile you're just so

00:39:51.690 --> 00:39:54.170
lovely um and I don't kill it for years so don't

00:39:54.170 --> 00:39:56.809
think I'm crazy I just I I just love your heart

00:39:56.809 --> 00:39:58.929
and I know that I could see this shining and

00:39:58.929 --> 00:40:01.869
how happy you are with this and you know we sometimes

00:40:01.869 --> 00:40:03.789
struggle to find like where our passion is going

00:40:03.789 --> 00:40:05.989
to be and what we're going to do and what that

00:40:05.989 --> 00:40:08.869
looks like and you left the program with a legacy

00:40:08.869 --> 00:40:10.909
and I think that that's a beautiful thing is

00:40:10.909 --> 00:40:13.900
you can really look back on your life and And,

00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.579
you know, it's not just my legacy, it's all the

00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:20.900
contributing voices that their children may find

00:40:20.900 --> 00:40:24.980
it on the bookshelf and say, oh, oh, Grandpa

00:40:24.980 --> 00:40:28.159
Ulof was in a book. Oh, I didn't know that Grandpa

00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.360
Ulof was in a book. Or, oh, I didn't know that

00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.510
my Uncle Sean Wynot was in a book. So. My cousin

00:40:35.510 --> 00:40:40.150
favor. Anyways, it really is fun. And the last

00:40:40.150 --> 00:40:43.250
thing I did want to say is that it is a way to

00:40:43.250 --> 00:40:45.710
create the momentum. Now that you have the guests

00:40:45.710 --> 00:40:48.389
in the book, six of these guests were in the

00:40:48.389 --> 00:40:51.030
slot in order. It's easier to go back and ask

00:40:51.030 --> 00:40:53.429
them to do other things, create masterminds with

00:40:53.429 --> 00:40:55.530
them, create. This is everyone talks about a

00:40:55.530 --> 00:40:59.000
community, but here as a podcast host. We have

00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.260
so many people in our community, and yet we interview

00:41:01.260 --> 00:41:03.139
them and then we drop them and forget about them

00:41:03.139 --> 00:41:07.340
and go to the next one. So you have found the

00:41:07.340 --> 00:41:11.739
solution to just one interview and done. So I

00:41:11.739 --> 00:41:14.539
love that, Sheila. So I love you. Thank you for

00:41:14.539 --> 00:41:17.039
being here, Jonathan. Thank you to Chatter Social

00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.480
for being another source where we could go live.

00:41:20.219 --> 00:41:23.769
And the guests love that too. Sheila, have a

00:41:23.769 --> 00:41:25.829
great rest of the day. I'm really excited about

00:41:25.829 --> 00:41:28.690
everything coming your way. I'll have links in

00:41:28.690 --> 00:41:30.849
all of the show notes and everything so everyone

00:41:30.849 --> 00:41:33.829
can find you. Sheila said, I agree with you,

00:41:33.889 --> 00:41:35.389
Sheila, the phone number. You don't have to give

00:41:35.389 --> 00:41:39.750
it here, but yes, being able to talk to the founder,

00:41:39.929 --> 00:41:43.190
the CTO, and get back to them, that's huge. That's

00:41:43.190 --> 00:41:46.210
really going to make the business blow up. One

00:41:46.210 --> 00:41:49.289
more thing I want to say. I'm not going to mention

00:41:49.289 --> 00:41:52.070
a name, Sheila. I'm not going to say the name

00:41:52.070 --> 00:41:56.070
of the company that couldn't do it. Couldn't

00:41:56.070 --> 00:41:58.610
pull it off. They pulled off a press release.

00:41:59.650 --> 00:42:01.710
I mean, who they did a press release. Oh, Sheila

00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:04.150
wants me to stop. Okay. We're only going to focus

00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:06.289
on the positive. We're going to move forward

00:42:06.289 --> 00:42:12.030
with ours. Remember a lot of times people don't

00:42:12.030 --> 00:42:16.989
finish what they start. So I'll send them a copy

00:42:16.989 --> 00:42:22.320
of the book. I didn't want to just add one key

00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.559
takeaway. It's not just about, you know, the

00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.039
publishing, but what it really does, it saves

00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.500
time. And for those of you that have already

00:42:32.500 --> 00:42:35.659
published books, or for those of you that are

00:42:35.659 --> 00:42:39.619
editors or ghost writers or publishers, go ahead

00:42:39.619 --> 00:42:45.150
and try a free chapter visit pod to book. AI

00:42:45.150 --> 00:42:47.789
and run your free chapter and then reach out

00:42:47.789 --> 00:42:51.070
to me if you would love to give me your feedback

00:42:51.070 --> 00:42:53.829
or if you have any questions we're here to serve

00:42:53.829 --> 00:42:57.489
you. Okay she'll stop me from being a bad girl

00:42:57.489 --> 00:43:01.510
so I was naughty now it'll be nice yes listen

00:43:01.510 --> 00:43:03.829
to Sheila run the free chapter really is amazing.

00:43:06.670 --> 00:43:10.070
I didn't say their name. It doesn't matter. We're

00:43:10.070 --> 00:43:14.030
keeping it positive. This is my chapter in your

00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:18.329
book. It will be. We'll take it out of an EB.

00:43:18.829 --> 00:43:21.889
Oh, I love it. Real, raw, and authentic. That's

00:43:21.889 --> 00:43:24.769
it. That's it, Sheila. Thank you for being brave,

00:43:24.909 --> 00:43:27.050
bold, and beautiful, and coming out here live.

00:43:27.230 --> 00:43:29.750
I love it. And thank you so much. Thank you.

00:43:29.829 --> 00:43:32.559
Thank you. I love you. I will close this out

00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.460
before Fez starts streaming. Oh, there he goes.

00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.559
He is... Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy.