Oct. 19, 2024

Blockhead Interviews Patricia "Peppermint Patty" Patts

Blockhead Interviews Patricia "Peppermint Patty" Patts

YFB interviews THE Peppermint Patty from the Peanuts T.V. Specials!

All links for Patricia and YFB are in the blog page link below:

https://yourfavoriteblockhead.com/2024/10/19/blockhead-interviews-patricia-peppermint-patty-patts/

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YFB interviews THE Peppermint Patty from the Peanuts T.V. Specials!

All links for Patricia and YFB are in the blog page link below:

https://yourfavoriteblockhead.com/2024/10/19/blockhead-interviews-patricia-peppermint-patty-patts/

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Broadcasting Live Good afternoon, Blockhead Nation, thank you for stopping

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by once again. You are listening to, or possibly watching

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your favorite Blockhead, the only podcast in the podcast in

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the world that can somehow incorporate the Peanuts comic strip

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one minute and then be talking about MMA and Warriors

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inside the Octagon the next. I am your host, Mynam

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Brian Little, and today we are stopping presses. We are

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rolling out the red carpet. We have got a wonderful

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guest who is joining me today. Let me tell you

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how it happened. Blockhead was sitting there in the pumpkin patch.

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He's been trying to create a tracker app for the

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Great Pumpkin, just like Santa Claus, but to no avail,

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because I'm not that tech savvy, and out of nowhere,

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I get this email, and what do you know, it's her.

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It's the Peppermint Patty. The Peppermint Patty from the TV

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series wanted to come by and talk to this little podcaster.

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I cannot tell you how incredibly excited and humbled I

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am that she would take a few minutes out of

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her day to come by and talk to this little

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podcast without any further ado ladies and gentlemen, I give

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you the one, the Only, Miss Patricia Pats the Peppermint Patty.

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Miss Patricia, thank you so much for coming by today

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and welcome to the block Ed Hour.

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Well, thank you so much. That was quite the intro important.

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I can't tell you how much I have looked forward

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to this, Miss Patricia, and it just as a Peanuts

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fan growing up. It's such an honor to be speaking

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to you today and what I would like to do

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for my listeners that are the blockad Nation. For those

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who don't know, you actually started your career in an

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iconic role that a lot of people are familiar with.

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You actually played the role of Annie, to which I

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understand Charles Schultz aka Sparky became interested in you. If

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you could just start walking my listeners through your Peanuts

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career and how it all began.

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Well, so, I actually started acting at about the age

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of three. My whole family did theater. When we moved

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out to California, we got involved in a local theater group.

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It was called the Jesters, and we did everything. We

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made costumes, we sold concessions, sold tickets, we built sets.

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I remember being about six or seven years old, and

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standing backstage of the sound of music and making the

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thunder with a with a giant piece of metal that

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could slice your hand open. And like we just we

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did everything, including a ton of plays, so that by

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the time I auditioned for Annie, I had done dozens

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and dozens of shows. We Once I got the part,

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we went up and uh and toured in San Francisco,

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which is, of course where Sparky lives lived. He he

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was in Santa Rosa, and so he came to see

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the show. And the story is that he came one night,

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and Lee Mendelssohn, the producer of Peanuts, came another night,

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and they got on the phone together and said, Hey,

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I've got ourn ex patty. No, no, no, no, I've

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got our an ex patty. No, wait till you hear

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this girl. And they were fighting over me. So somehow

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they got a hold of my people. I'm not even

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sure who my people were, or I could have gotten

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a hold of them back in those days, but they

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offered me the role, and of course I jumped at

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it because I'd been watching Peanuts for years by that point,

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you know, it was it was a favorite of our household.

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My mom would go out every time, and she would

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get Jiffy Pop popcorn. Do you remember Jiffy.

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Pop slightly out so for your viewers.

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Who might be a little younger and maybe Jiffy Pop

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It it comes in a little do I have one now?

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It comes in a little silver pie tin and yeah,

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pop off and you put it on your stove and

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you shake it while making it and it would puff

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up this tinfoil top until it was ready. And so

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my mom always bought Chivvy pop popcorn and whatever our

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favorite candy was. And you know, I was one of

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five kids, so we didn't have a lot of candy

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in the house, but for the Thanksgiving and the Christmas

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and the Halloween special and some of the others as well,

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she would always go out and buy whatever our favorite

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candy was. Mine was Junior Mints, and we would watch

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the shows. So so in some ways I got the

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importance of what I was doing. But to be honest,

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in a lot of ways, I really had no idea

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the impact that this show would have forty plus years later,

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sure how important it would be to my life forty

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years later. So it's it's been. It's been really interesting

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and really fun.

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You know, the rewarding part for me is that most

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of these that you have listed that are on your websites,

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and the ones I'll direct my listeners too if they

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haven't watched them, are actually a big part of my childhood.

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And that's before we started recording. We actually kind of

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agreed that we would go through each one of these individually,

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and we'll start with one that has a great ending

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to it that I think maybe just resonates with me

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in many ways, and that happens to be the episode

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You're the Greatest Charlie Brown, so from my listeners who

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don't know You're the Greatest Charlie Brown. Is basically they're

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getting ready for a track meet and there's one position

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that's opened, and Charlie Brown takes the decathlon because Lucy

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kind of talks him into it, but Lions kinda says

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you might want to reconsider. He's like, well, that's whatever

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helps the team, which, of course he's getting murdered every

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day by Peppermint Batty through the training process, but ultimately

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in the end, you had him envisioned himself as the

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next Bruce Jenner and he's running and she's yelling open

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your eyes and all of a sudden, he just runs

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out of the track. So, from what you can recollect,

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are there some fun moments or things that you remember

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from the showing of You're the Greatest Charlie Brown to

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share with my listeners.

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Well, so, You're the Greatest Charlie Brown was the first

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one that I recorded, and so it was my first

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chance to work with Bill Melendez, who was our director.

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And again for those that don't know, he wasn't just

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our director, he was also the main animator and he

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was also every voice that wasn't a kid. So he

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was snoopy, he was woodstock, he was uh wah wah,

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blah blah blah blah, which was a combination. My understanding

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was it's a combination of the trombone, a muted trombone,

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and his voice, and so he was hysterically funny. He

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had a a if if your viewers get a chance,

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you should track down a video of him. He had

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a great speaking voice. He was born and raised in

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Mexico City, so to start with, he had that very

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quick pattern that that a lot of native born Hispanics have.

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It's a very everything is said very and so you

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kind of have a hard time understanding what they're saying.

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But then he also had a vocal pattern to him

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that was just fun. And so, uh, when we got

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into the studio together, he says to me, Okay, so

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here's what we're gonna do. I'm going to say the

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line and you're going to repeat it. And I said, okay,

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I'm thinking that's kind of weird, like because i'd never

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done a voice over before. I'd always done theater. Sure

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at that point, I hadn't even done a lot of television,

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so you know, nobody fed me a line. So he

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he says, no, no, no, just just say it exactly as

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I say it, Okay, just exactly as I say it.

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And I'm like, exactly, and he goes, yes, exactly okay.

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And so he reads me the line with his accent

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and his vocal patterns, and I repeated them exactly and

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he goes, oh no, no, no, no accent, no accent.

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And I'm like, oh no, I am ten and I

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do know how to read. And so he went, oh, okay, okay,

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you just read. And if I need to fix something,

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then you know, well I'd been watching Peanuts for years.

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I knew because there is a pattern to that hey, Chuck,

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how's it going right, Whereas a normal person would go, hey, check,

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hey Chuck, how's it going right? But there was this

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hey that they all did, and so, you know, I

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just knew to do that, and so I got through

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my session in an hour and a half and it

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had been scheduled for eight hours. Oh wow, that's my

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that's my biggest memory of that. I do remember they

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had some of the other kids there one of the

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days and we did, you know, the the background sort

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of Hey, what's everybody doing? Yeah, got charity, you know

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that that kind of stuff. But those the memories that

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I have of it are much more on that personal

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level than than the actual show itself, which I think

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is kind of funny.

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I need to show interesting. Yeah, as a viewer, that's

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pretty interesting to hear your side and kind of go okay,

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I would never have caught that just following the plot.

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I guess you could say yeah, so if I'm yeah,

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I'm sorry if I cut you off.

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I just kind of was making sure. I was like, yeah,

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that gives me that that other dimension to think that through. Man,

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I'm gonna love listening to you back and just imagining

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you going through the script like that, I'm ten, I

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can read, I can I can see the sass a

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little bit.

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That's great, a little bit of sass.

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Just a little yes, ma'am. So I think there's another

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part of that when when we get to one of

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my absolute favorites by you, there are some moments that

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actually will throw Peanuts fans for a loop because all

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of a sudden you can hear adults actually talking instead

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of a trombone effect. And that's what happened with You're

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a Good Skate Charlie Brown. So I love growing up

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with that one too. But in case somebody doesn't know,

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don't be surprised if you hear adults speaking to Patty

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as she's trying to figure out problem number six. So

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that gives me kind of a segue into your memories

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from She's a Good Skate Charlie Brown.

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Yeah, yeah, so I do have more memories of that one.

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For for whatever odd reason, that one was taken from

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a series of strips and it was one the What

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I had heard about that was that they had been

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thinking about doing a Patty special for a while and

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then when I came along, they were like, Okay, now's

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the time. We gotta, we gotta make this one happen,

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and so, uh, you know, there's little in the In

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the series of strips that were in the newspaper, she

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Peppermint Patty asks Marci to make her dress for her

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for the skating competition, and Marcy keeps saying, but sir,

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I don't sew, and she's like, you've got a sewing machine,

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of course you sew. And Marcy makes a huge mess

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of it, and of course Snoopy comes in as Snoopy does,

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and pins are flying and fabric is going everywhere, and

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he makes the perfect dress. Now, in the strip, Peppermint

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Patty had gone to Charlie Brown's father's barber shop and

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he thought that Peppermint Patty was a boy, so she

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gives him a boy haircut, and so she goes to

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Snoopy and she's like, what are we going to do?

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Like I look like a boy? So Snoopy goes off

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and he comes back into the frame and he puts

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a wig on her head and it's an afro, and

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so she then goes in the strip, she then goes

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to the ice skating well. She thinks it's going to

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be an ice skating competition. That's what she's been practicing for,

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and it turns out it's a roller skating competition, and

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so she doesn't get to compete, and she's disappointed because

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you know, she thought it was going to be ice skating. Well,

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they changed it for the special and they did have

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her at an ice skating rink, but the drama that

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they put into it was that her tape gets messed up,

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and you can't in competition skating, You can't skate if

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you don't have your music. And so Woodstock steps up

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to the microphone and sings the song for her, and

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of course she wins the competition. So there were there

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were some pretty major changes that they made from the

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strip to the special. The inside joke that they put

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in in the strip she gets the afro and in

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the special she gets the Annie wig because I was Annie.

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Oh okay, yeah wow and thickens now right.

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So the first time that I saw that piece, I

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was actually doing some uh some recording at their studio

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in Los Angeles and we were waiting around for somebody

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to show up. I don't even remember who, but there

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was an animator that was sitting there and he was

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doing cleanup making sure that everything fit together and the

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frames worked and whatever. And we start talking to him

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and he says, well, would you like to see what

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I'm working on? And we go sure, and he goes,

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now there's no audio to this. We said that's fine.

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So he starts playing this clip and it's Peppermint, Patty

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and Marcy and the dress and Snoopy coming in and

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fixing it all, and without a word he goes off screen.

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He comes back on and he puts the anniewig on

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her head, and my mom and I lost it. We

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were laughing so hard. And the animator's like, why is

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that funny? And I'm like, because I'm.

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Annie, You're Annie. Oh my goodness, Oh that is gold.

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Oh my goodness. You know, I love that You've given

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that another dimension for me, just because you know you're right.

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I'm hearing you tell the story and I'm remembering about

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how she can't even get there's no sleeves in that dress,

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so she can't do anything. And then even you have

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those the sweet element at the end where Woodstock does

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play the full song, you got Snoopy in tears. When

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it's over, you can see poor little Woodstock is just

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sweat and bullets. He's so exhausted from getting through that

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whole song, and you know it pays off. She wins

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the whole thing. But oh, I'll never I'll never see

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she's a good skate the same again, knowing that the

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wig is any Miss Patricia. Oh, that's added so many

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layers to this. I can't even begin to tell you.

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What I would like to make sure that I cover

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from my blockhead Nation listeners is also your co host

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has made, has implied in a way, she feels like

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your strongest work, even though those are really good episodes,

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she feels like the one that you delivered the most

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on that even gets expounded on, and you're the greatest

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Charlie Brown, would be bon Voyage Charlie Brown. So for

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those that haven't seen that I have, but you know

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my listeners who haven't, could you walk my listeners through

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a little bit about your bond memories of bon Voyage

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and Don't come back?

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Sure? So bon Vouchin Don't come Back as actually a

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paramount feature film, so a little bit different than the specials.

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They they actually didn't have as many of the movies.

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Why do I think there's only like five or six

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of them, and so in that one, they are in

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a student exchange program and they're going to Paris. What's

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really fun about this particular story is that it mirrors

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a lot of Sparky's life in World War Two. He

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was stationed in Paris, and so a lot of the

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bits and pieces. They stayed in a chateau that had

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been abandoned, and so he and his wife went back

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and toured Paris and they took pictures of everything so

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that they could come back and animate those the chateau

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and the little bar that Snoopy goes to where he

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has his root beer. I personally believe that that is

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the greatest five minutes of cinema ever. Oh Snoopy in

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the bar, knocking back root beers and listening to the

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music of the Times, you know. Uh, At one song

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he's you know, crying tears, and the next one he's,

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you know, dancing a jig, and the whole time he's

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knocking back rip bears, And I just like it. It

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gets me every single time I've watched that special. So, uh,

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let's see. So the in the story, they do the

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student exchange and it turns out that Charlie Brown has

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a connection to the chateau and uh, and that's why

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he got invited, and it's a big mystery through through

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the show as to what his connection is. So I

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would suggest everybody go and watch it. Absolutely, But it's

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it's really it's a lot of fun and uh and

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as an adult there's certain things in it that that

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I didn't notice as a kid. There's a couple of

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sequences where they have car accidents and Snoopy is.

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He's doing the gestures, Yeah.

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Gestures which are not nice gestures.

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Right if you look closely, and if you listen to Marcy,

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somebody who is always so sweet and so polite and

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you know, wouldn't dare go against the status quo in

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many ways. When she's over there in France, she's shouting

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some things in French that make you want to go.

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If I try to transcribe that, that may not be

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it's just gone. Are you you're seeing a total antithesis

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to who she is over there in France if I'm

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not mistaken.

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Yeah, Yeah, So it's really it's it's such a fun movie.

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And and I'm my my best recollection from the film

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from the filming of it is the moment where I

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am on the airplane and I'm back there and I'm going, hey, Chuck,

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it's okay, Chuck, and my voice cracks and I did

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it and they all laughed, and I was like, do

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not put that in the movie. Do not put it in.

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Let me redo it, let me and they put it

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in the movie.

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If I went back and nitpicked it, I'd probably be

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able to tell exactly where that is now. And you

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know what, I didn't want to personalize too much for

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the miss Patricia, but I have to now that in

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Bonvoyos Charlie Brown. When I was growing up, there was

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a family video that was made during Thanksgiving. It was

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me and my cousin. We were sitting there watching Bonvoyos

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Charlie Brown. It was on TV, and I promise you

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to this day I know what scene it was on.

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It was Marcy looking at Pepper and pat saying I

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don't remember hearing anything about sandals, Sir. I can hear

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in the background, and I'm telling my cousin it's Pepper

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and Patty we're watching Charlie Brown. I promise you that

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that old cassette tape is probably broken or hanging out,

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you know, collecting dust somewhere, but I can pinpoint that moment.

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So you have impacted my childhood in more ways than

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you may realize, and you're giving another layer two that

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makes even more wonderful and special. So I just wanted

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you to know how much this means just having this

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discussion with you. But to be fair, I love doing it. Yeah.

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But on the other side, is I know you other

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than that you've done Annie, You've also done some work

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with the Peanuts. But just in case my listeners are

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interested in going a little further, yes, I'll have all

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your websites and all of your social media, But are

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there other films or other works that you did that

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maybe hold a special place in your heart that you'd

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like to share with the Blockhead nation?

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So the one that always sort of surprises people, And

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to be honest, it surprised me a little bit as well.

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I did a slasher movie in the nineteen eighties that

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starred Richard Hatch from Battlestar Galactica, Sean Weatherley from Baywatch,

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Richard Rowntree, who, like I think he won an Oscar

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and Emmy and a Tony like he was just one

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of those, and Leif Garrett, who.

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Was a huge.

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Pop star in the in the seventies, and we we

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did this movie. It went straight to DVD, but it's

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found a little niche following. It's called party Line, and

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the story is that this young girl me is calling

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a party line, which back in the day, you could

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call this group number and you could talk to a

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whole bunch of people. You had to pay for it,

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and it was very expensive. And so she is at

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her babysitting gig and is calling this number from the

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babysitter's house and the guy gets the bill and he's like,

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what is this and calls the number and here's her

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making a date with Leif Garrett's character, And so she

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shows up for the date, but so does her boss.

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So she goes and hides, doesn't show up for the date,

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and when he ends up dead the next day, she

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knows who the killer is and how to track him down.

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So she goes to the police, which was Richard Hatch

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and Sean Weatherley and helps them track down the killers. Wow.

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And I was at a comic con one day and

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this guy comes up and he says, you are in

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my wife and my favorite movie of all time. We

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quote it more than any other movie that we could quote,

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and I'm like, and he goes party line and I'm

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like what. It turned out that there is a company

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called Vinegar Syndrome and their goal is to save these

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straight to DVD movies that came out in the eighties

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because there were so many of them. Sure, and so

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they re released them as a DVD and Blu ray.

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And he was like, yeah, you can. You can go online,

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you can buy them. So I have them on my

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table when I go to comic cons, and it's like,

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which one doesn't fit?

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One of these things just doesn't exactly sit in. One

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of these things is not the same. Now that's interesting

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because you know, I was looking for, you know, if

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you had other stories from comic con, because I admit

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I've a lot of things that I've followed you on

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that I've done my research on have usually been very

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comic Con related. So that kind of just gives me

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that opening to say, Okay, we got one guy that

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of all the things, a small minority of people are

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interested in, this small, niche down movie that you did.

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Can go figure, you know, how people will be influenced

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by what you do. But are there other great stories

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that you have that are either from recent comic cons

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or the most recent one you've been to. Just maybe

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some stories from comicon. This should be fun.

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You. Some of my favorites are the kids that come.

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You know, my demographic for the most part is age

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is forty five and up. Sure, and I can I

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can be sitting there and I can see my demographic

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from a mile away. But every once in a while

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there'll be a kid who saw the latest movie and

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got so enamored by them that they become Peanuts fans.

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And so those are just so special, such special moments.

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It's because so much of the time they're they're the

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age I was when I did them. And most of

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those kids also have a desire to be an actor

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or to be a voice actor, and so you know,

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they come in and they go, you know, what, what

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do I need to do two to get there? And

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you know my advice is always find a local theater

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and do everything. Build sets, build costumes, sell tickets, be

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on stage, learn the craft of acting. And then you know,

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we have these magical things, yeah, that you can film

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a movie right, And I tell them, find your tribe,

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find the group of kids, find the director at your school,

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find your writers, find your musicians who will write music

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for your movie. Write a movie, produce the movie, have

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your mom make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for craft

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services like just go out and do it, and let

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me tell you. It's going to be bad. It's going

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to be really bad. But that's how you learn, and

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then you do it again and you get better and

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you get more people in your tribe who want to

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be a part of it, until you're producing stuff that

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people are going, wow, that's really good. And so meeting

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the kids to me are always it's just really special

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to me. And then the other people that have always

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really struck me are the ones who their lives were

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changed by watching Peppermint Patty. And you wouldn't think that

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a cartoon character would have their life be profoundly changed

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by a character. But in nineteen sixty six, when she

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was introduced to the strip, there were no girls that

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looked like her. There were no girls in media that

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played baseball, played football, wore shorts and birkenstocks. At that point,

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you know, pants weren't even like they were sort of

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a girl couldn't wear pants to school. And in nineteen

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sixty six, And it doesn't seem that long ago a

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woman couldn't have her own checking account, a woman couldn't

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buy a house by herself. Wow, Like, the changes that

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have happened in our society are so massive in a

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relatively short amount of time. And what a lot of

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people don't know is how instrumental Sparky was to some

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of those changes that we see now. He was a

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vital part of getting Title nine passed. And for those

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that don't know what Title nine is. In the past,

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there could be federal and state dollars that could go

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to public schools and public colleges for male sports teams,

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but none for female sports teams. So if girls wanted

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to play softball, they had to raise all of the

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money themselves. And so he went with Billy Jean King

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and he knocked on doors at Congress and said, this

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isn't fair. Girls want to play sports, and we need

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to provide them the funds to do that in equal

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measure to male sports. And they got it passed. And

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so when you're watching you know, the Women's Basketball League,

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or you're watching you know, the softball leagues that have

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become so popular, especially with the Olympics, that is all

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a direct result of his work, not only knocking on

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doors for Congress, but also writing a character like Peppermint

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Patty who was so independent and fierce and not afraid

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to be a leader, you know. And I have people

470
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.920
come up to me and say, oh, well she was bossy,

471
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:33.000
and I'll say, no, she was a leader. She encouraged

472
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.280
Charlie Brown. Now did she have her moments where she

473
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.400
was like, you're a blockhead, knock it off. Of course

474
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.039
she did, you know, because that was the character. But

475
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:48.840
sure it was mean spirited, you know, there was a

476
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:55.559
lot more encouraging of come on, you can learn to swim.

477
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.559
Let's go ladies, you know, let's let's learn how to golf,

478
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.400
let's to learn how to And she was a teacher

479
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.239
and a leader in so much of what she did,

480
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:12.159
and especially during that time, you just didn't have female leadership.

481
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.159
And so I am so proud of the fact that

482
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:23.039
I am this character and her importance in so many lives.

483
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:26.400
And I've literally had women standing in front of me

484
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:34.280
shaking and crying because they're getting to meet me because

485
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:42.440
this character changed their life. And so like, I just

486
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:47.039
can't think of a better way to spend my time

487
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.000
then to be out and be at comic cons and

488
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:58.079
meet these fans and maybe even introduce some people to

489
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:04.480
Peanuts who maybe haven't gotten into them like they should.

490
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:06.800
Everybody everybody should.

491
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.519
Like they should. I hope you heard that Blockhead Nation,

492
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.960
because I'm getting goosebumps hearing this, but I'll say, you know,

493
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.480
it's it makes me so happy. And just hearing that,

494
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.719
Miss Patricia, because you might remember this. I even grew

495
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.119
up on I Love Lucy and I had this. There

496
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.239
was a scene where Lucy got a loving cup stuck

497
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.000
on her head and there was a part where Ethel

498
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:28.280
said I can't go out in my blue jeans. That

499
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.519
blew me away as like a young ninety ninety five,

500
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:33.760
ninety six year old kid who go why can't you

501
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.960
go out in your blue jeans? It shows you the

502
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.960
society and culture from just a few years back. So

503
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.119
hearing this that is, Oh, it's incredible hearing that from you.

504
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.280
But again, I'm so thrilled that comic Con has been

505
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.440
a blessing to you. It's been blessed to so many

506
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.320
and just to now another layer of what Sparky has

507
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.320
done for society and culture, I want people to know

508
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.920
that so much. You know, you mentioned something a minute

509
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:01.519
ago about perfecting your craft and act. It looks like

510
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.280
you and miss Sally Brown are starting to perfect your

511
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.679
craft in the world of podcasting, because you have a

512
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.639
show called The Peanuts Gallery. So if you could, I've

513
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.679
listened to the episodes, few of them in detail to

514
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.559
get ready for this podcast. Can't hand. But that gives

515
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.920
me a chance to just say, hey, where are you

516
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.760
currently in your podcasting journey and what have you and

517
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.440
Miss Sally Brown kind of worked out from this point

518
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.079
where you currently aren't podcasting. Let's hear it.

519
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:34.480
Well, so I'm kind of new to the podcasting world.

520
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:41.880
It came about because I would have these conversations with

521
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.519
people and they would come up to the booth and

522
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:48.159
they would say, well, I'm a Charlie Brown. And I

523
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:49.920
would say, well, what do you mean by that? And

524
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:51.960
they would say, well, you know, I've always been a

525
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.960
little depressed. I'm kind of you know, I kind of

526
00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:00.719
mess things up a lot. You know. I had my

527
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.280
my producer for the show. His comment was, I've always

528
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:14.719
been this close and and over and over people would

529
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.119
come up and say, oh, I'm such a peppermint Patty Oh. I.

530
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:24.519
You know, my sister is a Lucy, and I really

531
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:31.199
started to sort of dig into the psychology of these characters.

532
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.480
And my dog is scratching at the door in the

533
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.320
background in case you can hear it.

534
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:42.840
That comes with podcasts in perfect time for that to happen,

535
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:44.039
isn't it right?

536
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:54.599
So uh, just the the It was such simplistic drawings,

537
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:03.119
and yet these were really complex characters that, you know,

538
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:11.159
Charlie Brown often said I'm depressed Linus, and like, I

539
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:17.679
can't think of another in nineteen fifties of another comic

540
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:23.880
strip where any male character was saying I'm depressed, And

541
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:29.880
I feel like what that did is it normalized depression.

542
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:37.639
It normalized Linus' insecurities, you know, Lucy's narcissism. It made

543
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:46.280
us aware of that type of personality and in a

544
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:52.679
lot of ways how not to approach them, especially with Lucy.

545
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:59.679
But I really just got fascinated with the psychological aspect

546
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.519
of it. You know, I've been through my own journeys

547
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:11.800
of depression, and I've come to the realization I don't

548
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:15.400
think you can get out of life without having depression

549
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.760
in your life. I think everyone goes through it, whether

550
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:25.920
you lose a job, or you break up with somebody,

551
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:30.800
or you lose your parents at some point, you know,

552
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:37.679
these are big, big moments in our lives. And for

553
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.199
a really long time, I feel like we were told

554
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:47.320
we weren't supposed to feel these things. Oh, just pull

555
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.559
yourself up by your bootstraps. Oh just get over it.

556
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:56.639
You know. I remember telling my mom that when her

557
00:41:56.679 --> 00:42:01.119
father passed away, that well, this is the circle of life, mom,

558
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.440
this is what happens. Your parents get older and they

559
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.920
pass away, and then you get older and you pass away,

560
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.960
and it's just it's just the circle of life, mom.

561
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.639
And then my mother died and I crawled into bed

562
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.679
for three months, like and I just thought, Wow, what

563
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:28.280
a jerk was And so part of what I want

564
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:32.559
to do with the show is really help people to

565
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:39.440
understand that it is normal and to poke a little fun.

566
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:46.840
The episode with Alison arngrem where it's Lucy versus Nellie Olsen,

567
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:53.920
who's the worst narcissist? I mean, it's a fun episode

568
00:42:54.159 --> 00:43:02.519
of talking about narcissism, which is not fun, right, So

569
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:07.559
you know, that's that's what we're going for in this

570
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.719
It's it's probably a little more niche than some other

571
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.480
things might be. But I'm having such a great time.

572
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:24.719
I interviewed a bunch of people for for the co

573
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.320
host position, and I'm so happy that I ended up

574
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:34.400
with Carrie. Carrie had actually done the role of Sally

575
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:39.440
Brown on stage a number of times, so when she

576
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.320
sat down, she was as big a fan of Peanuts

577
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:50.039
as I was, and it just she asks some of

578
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:55.760
the best questions. I tend to be very like, Okay,

579
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.239
I'm going to come up with the questions beforehand, and

580
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.480
I type them all out and I sent them out,

581
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.599
and then she just comes out with these brilliant questions

582
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.480
that I'm like, Wow, why didn't I think of that?

583
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.880
It's a dynamic doo In many ways, y'all have a

584
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.719
really good flow. I will admit that from a fellow

585
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.400
podcaster who flies solo to co hosting that y'all do

586
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.159
I see it? I mean it is. It seems comfortable

587
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:26.280
for both of you, and the episodes have been so

588
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:29.159
fun for me to dig into, So I'll plug that here.

589
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:33.199
I don't mind Blockhead Nation. The Peanuts Gallery podcast is

590
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.079
in this show. All you gotta do is go to

591
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.199
the description of today's show. Whether you're Apple Spotify. If

592
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.039
you want to go to my blog, it's your favorite

593
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.719
blockhead dot com slash blog. It's right here in the

594
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.199
links in the description. You don't have an excuse. I've

595
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.719
got the Pants Gallery podcast. I've got everything you need

596
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.559
to know about Miss Patricia here today. You've got no excuse,

597
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:56.039
So don't think you have to go looking for her.

598
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.480
Your favorite blockhead has taken care of that today. So, Tricia,

599
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.440
I just want to make sure since we've had a

600
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.199
wonderful time here and I hope that we've covered everything

601
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.360
you wanted to cover. But this is the kind of

602
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.760
on the back end. If there's anything that you want

603
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.119
to leave my listeners to, if there's other projects, or

604
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.880
if there's something if they heard nothing else from you today,

605
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:18.719
then maybe what would they want? What would you want

606
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.480
them to know from Miss Patricia Pats today if they

607
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:22.440
heard nothing else?

608
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:30.079
Well, I think you know, if they would like to

609
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.559
meet me at a comic con to reach out to

610
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.320
your favorite show and let them know that you would

611
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:45.199
like to have me come, because that really influences who

612
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.960
they bring in, and so that would be number one.

613
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.960
I would love for them to follow and like and

614
00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:01.280
subscribe and do all of that fun stuff. But I

615
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.320
think the biggest thing that I want for the Blockhead

616
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:13.000
Nation is to be happy to be more Snoopy than Lucy.

617
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.559
A man to that one. And I love that you

618
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:22.119
said that, because you're right, Peppermint, Patty was very competitive,

619
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:26.840
but she wasn't the crab. She was not the fuss

620
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:30.440
budget that Lucy was to him. And I'm so glad

621
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.920
you said and knowing that Snoopy is the most interchangeable

622
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:38.880
and really arguably the most I wouldn't say most important,

623
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:41.239
but he certainly seems to be the most beloved because

624
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:44.360
I have a pastor who reached out to Charles Schultz

625
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.840
when he was alive and said, could you draw me

626
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.239
your favorite character? Well, guess who happens to be in

627
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.800
a frame in his office to this day. Snoopy. So

628
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.880
we can't overlook that in any ways. But I'll tell you,

629
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.880
miss Patricia, it has been a privilege and a blessing

630
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.039
to be talking to you today. I just want you

631
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:04.800
to know that, from the bottom of my heart, the

632
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.639
Blockad Nation has followed me for years. They always hear

633
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.519
me from a viewer's perspective and as a fan who's

634
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.679
followed the show for years to get that other side

635
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:16.360
and to be able to see somebody who's been in

636
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:19.440
the trenches in the world of peanuts. This means the

637
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.960
world to me, and I hope it truly touches their lives.

638
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.000
And everybody needs to go to the link today your

639
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.440
favorite blockhead dot com slash blog. You can go to

640
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:30.000
the description for Apple and Spotify. Everything is there for you. You've

641
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.199
got no excuse. And on that note, miss Patricia, I

642
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.719
thank you for your time today and I bid you

643
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:36.440
a doom ma'am.

644
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.679
Thank you so much. I had so much fun being

645
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:40.239
here with you.

646
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:43.639
That means the world to me as a gracious host,

647
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.760
and I hope we can well they say mix it

648
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.920
up one more time later on down the road, but

649
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.440
we'll see how that transpires. But don't forget every Saturday

650
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.239
Blockhead Nation. I'm here on the podcast. I'll be talking

651
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:55.960
with you next week. We'll catch up in the world

652
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.239
of Peanuts, but also we'll take a look at what's

653
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.480
coming up with the world of UFC. Those are my

654
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.519
friends that are m m A fans. We'll catch up

655
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:37.840
on that next Saturday, same blockhead time, same blockhead cham