Dec. 14, 2025

The Real Cost of Staying in the Wrong Circles

The Real Cost of Staying in the Wrong Circles

A conversation about removing toxicity, embracing change, and building a life and business grounded in values, clarity, and meaningful relationships.

In today’s episode, I sit down with Rhonda Kich, the powerhouse founder of EquityFirst and a trusted voice in financial literacy. We talk about the lessons that shaped my newest book, the role toxicity played in my past, and the hard reset that came after losing everything. I share how my wife’s push for accountability changed my path, the balance between being fed and being bled, and the frameworks I use to mentor others through growth. Rhonda and I also explore the realities of outgrowing relationships, building aligned teams, and raising kids with clarity, consistency, and values that support long-term happiness.