Sept. 30, 2023
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One of television's most popular true-crime series is now adapted for your ears with the “48 Hours” podcast. Every week, award-winning CBS News correspondents investigate the most intriguing crime and justice cases. Here’s a preview of a new “48...
One of television's most popular true-crime series is now adapted for your ears with the “48 Hours” podcast. Every week, award-winning CBS News correspondents investigate the most intriguing crime and justice cases. Here’s a preview of a new “48 Hours” episode, “The Night of
the Idaho Student Murders”. "48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant sits down with family members of Kaylee Goncalves and Xana Kernodle, two of the four University of Idaho students shockingly murdered the night of November 13, 2022. You can hear the rest of this episode on the “48 Hours” podcast from CBS News. For even more “48 Hours”, listen to the new “Post Mortem” series every Tuesday, where the correspondents and producers share their first hand experiences reporting on the compelling cases they cover.
Listen to 48 Hours ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts: Wondery.fm/48_SFTC
This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/2975465/advertisement
the Idaho Student Murders”. "48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant sits down with family members of Kaylee Goncalves and Xana Kernodle, two of the four University of Idaho students shockingly murdered the night of November 13, 2022. You can hear the rest of this episode on the “48 Hours” podcast from CBS News. For even more “48 Hours”, listen to the new “Post Mortem” series every Tuesday, where the correspondents and producers share their first hand experiences reporting on the compelling cases they cover.
Listen to 48 Hours ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts: Wondery.fm/48_SFTC
This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/2975465/advertisement
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Hey, Erica Kelly. Here today, we're sharing something special with you.
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It's a preview from forty eight Hours, one of the top true crime podcasts.
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On the forty eight Hour podcast,
you'll hear award winning CBS News correspondents
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investigate shocking murder cases and compelling real
life dramas from one of television's most watched
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true crime shows. I'm about to
play you a clip from forty eight Hours
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while you're listening. Follow forty eight
Hours on the Wondering app or wherever you
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get your podcasts. Okay, here's
the clip. Forty eight Hours correspondent Peter
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van Zant takes us back to the
nine of November thirteenth, twenty twenty two,
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to the University of Idaho, the
scene of the now infamous and chilling
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murders of four young students. Listen
in as van Zant speaks with a few
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family members of the victims. Moscow
will forever be known as a scene of
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one of the most tragic crimes in
American history. There's still sort of a
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darkness whenever you talk to people.
It would be ever part of the university's
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history and the town's history. There
are four very, very important names in
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this case, Kayley Gonsolvi is Madison
Mogen Zannakernodle, and Ethan Shapin. And
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if you're going to remember any names
from this case, I ask that it
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be all four. My name is
Olivia Gonzolvez and Kaylee was my little sister.
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Everybody's going to work and you look
out the window and there's kids running
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down the street laughing, and you're
just like, how can you be out
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there playing? My daughter's did you
know? Kayley Gonsolvis is gone. Stop
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everything everybody in the whole world stop, and everything just keeps going. My
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sisters and a Carnal is one of
the happiest, funniest people I've ever met,
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and I had the awesome privilege of
growing up with her, and I
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still have a hard time coming to
terms with the facts that did happen.
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Brian Coburger is accused of stabbing these
four University of the Idaho students in the
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pre dawn hours on November thirteenth,
twenty twenty two. The murder weapon,
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which was a knife, has never
been found. This is a type of
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survival knife. Brian Coburger did not
make his own plea. The judge entered
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a plea for him of not guilty, absolute penalties of life in prison for
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the data. Due to the nature
of the crimes, the state of I
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was seeking the death penalty. He
was there to kill. He came in
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with the kid. I believe he
had to kill kid. And you believe
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that everything right down to the implement
of destruction, this large marine knife,
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that was all planned, all planned. It is inhumane. You wouldn't do
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these type of things to any living
creature, let alone an innocent human being.
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In August of twenty twenty three,
just six weeks before the murdered trial
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of Brian Kolberger was set to begin, he waved his right to a speedy
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trial. Absolutely they would have to
wait indefinitely for their day in court.
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I was really hoping that we could
get this show on the road because the
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not knowing, it's just it's agony. It's agony. Steve and Christie,
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the parents of Kyley, haven't left
anything to chance. After the judge issued
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a gag order to attorneys and law
enforcement quote to preserve the right to a
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fair trial, they drilled down on
their own investigation and are now sharing what
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they believe that investigation found. Steve
says he believes transparency is the best path
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to justice. We're not going to
just sit back and cross our fingers and
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pray that we're going to get justice. It has been a long and painful
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journey for the families of Kaylee Gonzalvas, Matti Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, and
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Ethan Chapin. Do you ever dream
of your sister? Yeah, We've had
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some dreams of her. There's times
where I prayed and ask God seerc another
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time, and I did, and
excuse me some peace, knowing that you
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know she's okay. Jasmine Coronadal,
who was speaking for the first time,
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was a senior at Washington State University
and lived only fifteen minutes away from her
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younger sister Zanna. Often mistaken as
twins growing up, she says they were
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best friends. She was always fun, she was uplifting, and she took
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any bad situation turned it into a
good one. Jeff, what did you
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love most about your daughter? Everything? She cared about people. She was
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a people person, scared about her
friends. This is niceas like your family.
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For the first time in her life, Zanna had fallen in love with
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fellow student Ethan Chapin, a triplet
who loved his siblings, boats and working
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on a tulip farm. The sweetest
kid ever. They were just two happy
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people and they's just seen the videos
and photos of them. You can just
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like tell how happy they are.
They're just amazing together. Sadly, they
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will now forever be linked in death. On Sunday morning, November thirteenth,
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Zanna's friends started calling Jasmine, saying
something bad had happened on King Road.
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Jasmine rushed over to Zanna's house.
And while you're driving that eight nine miles
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over to the house, are you
trying to reach your sister? Then?
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How many times do you call her? A lot? They called her at
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Her next call was to her father. Jeffrey had been visiting Jasmine for dad's
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weekend and was on his way home. So you answered the phone. What
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do you hear? You're kind of
crying and just telling me to get back
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to Moscow and meet me Zanna's house, and you know, my heart drops
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instantly race back down earth. The
house was cordoned off and swarming with investigators.
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As soon as Jeffrey said he was
Zanna's father, he and Jasmine were
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escorted to the Moscow Police Department and
Jasmine, What does the officers say to
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you and your father? Oh?
I remember exactly just that. Four people
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passed way and the one was Sannah
overstay your life is your worst name?
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There? Do you sappen? Do
you know? What do you do?
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You can't hear damn thing. You
can hear the rest of this episode on
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00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.040
the forty eight hours podcast, and
if you're looking for more, go behind
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00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:54.319
the scenes with the new post mortem
series. Every Tuesday, We're forty eight
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00:07:54.360 --> 00:08:00.639
hours. Correspondents and producers share their
first hand experiences reporting on the compelling cases
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00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:05.639
they cover. You can also listen
to forty eight hours ad free by joining
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00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.560
Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or
on Apple Podcasts.
1
00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:05.759
Hey, Erica Kelly. Here today, we're sharing something special with you.
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00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:11.000
It's a preview from forty eight Hours, one of the top true crime podcasts.
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00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:17.440
On the forty eight Hour podcast,
you'll hear award winning CBS News correspondents
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00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:24.359
investigate shocking murder cases and compelling real
life dramas from one of television's most watched
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00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:28.879
true crime shows. I'm about to
play you a clip from forty eight Hours
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00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:34.119
while you're listening. Follow forty eight
Hours on the Wondering app or wherever you
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00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:43.000
get your podcasts. Okay, here's
the clip. Forty eight Hours correspondent Peter
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00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:47.799
van Zant takes us back to the
nine of November thirteenth, twenty twenty two,
9
00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:52.600
to the University of Idaho, the
scene of the now infamous and chilling
10
00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:58.159
murders of four young students. Listen
in as van Zant speaks with a few
11
00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:11.200
family members of the victims. Moscow
will forever be known as a scene of
12
00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.640
one of the most tragic crimes in
American history. There's still sort of a
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00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:22.840
darkness whenever you talk to people.
It would be ever part of the university's
14
00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:30.040
history and the town's history. There
are four very, very important names in
15
00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:37.400
this case, Kayley Gonsolvi is Madison
Mogen Zannakernodle, and Ethan Shapin. And
16
00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:40.879
if you're going to remember any names
from this case, I ask that it
17
00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:47.079
be all four. My name is
Olivia Gonzolvez and Kaylee was my little sister.
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00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.400
Everybody's going to work and you look
out the window and there's kids running
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00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.599
down the street laughing, and you're
just like, how can you be out
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00:01:55.599 --> 00:02:00.719
there playing? My daughter's did you
know? Kayley Gonsolvis is gone. Stop
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00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:09.319
everything everybody in the whole world stop, and everything just keeps going. My
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00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:16.840
sisters and a Carnal is one of
the happiest, funniest people I've ever met,
23
00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:23.080
and I had the awesome privilege of
growing up with her, and I
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00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:29.520
still have a hard time coming to
terms with the facts that did happen.
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00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:37.919
Brian Coburger is accused of stabbing these
four University of the Idaho students in the
26
00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:42.080
pre dawn hours on November thirteenth,
twenty twenty two. The murder weapon,
27
00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:45.199
which was a knife, has never
been found. This is a type of
28
00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:50.960
survival knife. Brian Coburger did not
make his own plea. The judge entered
29
00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:55.400
a plea for him of not guilty, absolute penalties of life in prison for
30
00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:59.879
the data. Due to the nature
of the crimes, the state of I
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00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.400
was seeking the death penalty. He
was there to kill. He came in
32
00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:06.960
with the kid. I believe he
had to kill kid. And you believe
33
00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:12.439
that everything right down to the implement
of destruction, this large marine knife,
34
00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:16.680
that was all planned, all planned. It is inhumane. You wouldn't do
35
00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:23.000
these type of things to any living
creature, let alone an innocent human being.
36
00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.879
In August of twenty twenty three,
just six weeks before the murdered trial
37
00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.840
of Brian Kolberger was set to begin, he waved his right to a speedy
38
00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:39.599
trial. Absolutely they would have to
wait indefinitely for their day in court.
39
00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:46.919
I was really hoping that we could
get this show on the road because the
40
00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:57.639
not knowing, it's just it's agony. It's agony. Steve and Christie,
41
00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:02.039
the parents of Kyley, haven't left
anything to chance. After the judge issued
42
00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:08.520
a gag order to attorneys and law
enforcement quote to preserve the right to a
43
00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:14.240
fair trial, they drilled down on
their own investigation and are now sharing what
44
00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:20.959
they believe that investigation found. Steve
says he believes transparency is the best path
45
00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:27.720
to justice. We're not going to
just sit back and cross our fingers and
46
00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:35.639
pray that we're going to get justice. It has been a long and painful
47
00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:42.639
journey for the families of Kaylee Gonzalvas, Matti Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, and
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00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.600
Ethan Chapin. Do you ever dream
of your sister? Yeah, We've had
49
00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:54.800
some dreams of her. There's times
where I prayed and ask God seerc another
50
00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:59.480
time, and I did, and
excuse me some peace, knowing that you
51
00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:08.160
know she's okay. Jasmine Coronadal,
who was speaking for the first time,
52
00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:14.079
was a senior at Washington State University
and lived only fifteen minutes away from her
53
00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:19.319
younger sister Zanna. Often mistaken as
twins growing up, she says they were
54
00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:25.079
best friends. She was always fun, she was uplifting, and she took
55
00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:29.519
any bad situation turned it into a
good one. Jeff, what did you
56
00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:36.199
love most about your daughter? Everything? She cared about people. She was
57
00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:42.439
a people person, scared about her
friends. This is niceas like your family.
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00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.399
For the first time in her life, Zanna had fallen in love with
59
00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:53.480
fellow student Ethan Chapin, a triplet
who loved his siblings, boats and working
60
00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:58.560
on a tulip farm. The sweetest
kid ever. They were just two happy
61
00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.800
people and they's just seen the videos
and photos of them. You can just
62
00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:08.240
like tell how happy they are.
They're just amazing together. Sadly, they
63
00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:14.639
will now forever be linked in death. On Sunday morning, November thirteenth,
64
00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:20.199
Zanna's friends started calling Jasmine, saying
something bad had happened on King Road.
65
00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:27.839
Jasmine rushed over to Zanna's house.
And while you're driving that eight nine miles
66
00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:30.319
over to the house, are you
trying to reach your sister? Then?
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00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.279
How many times do you call her? A lot? They called her at
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00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:40.959
Her next call was to her father. Jeffrey had been visiting Jasmine for dad's
69
00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.560
weekend and was on his way home. So you answered the phone. What
70
00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.000
do you hear? You're kind of
crying and just telling me to get back
71
00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:58.680
to Moscow and meet me Zanna's house, and you know, my heart drops
72
00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:08.000
instantly race back down earth. The
house was cordoned off and swarming with investigators.
73
00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.560
As soon as Jeffrey said he was
Zanna's father, he and Jasmine were
74
00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:17.560
escorted to the Moscow Police Department and
Jasmine, What does the officers say to
75
00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:25.600
you and your father? Oh?
I remember exactly just that. Four people
76
00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:32.199
passed way and the one was Sannah
overstay your life is your worst name?
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00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:39.680
There? Do you sappen? Do
you know? What do you do?
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00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:45.600
You can't hear damn thing. You
can hear the rest of this episode on
79
00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.040
the forty eight hours podcast, and
if you're looking for more, go behind
80
00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:54.319
the scenes with the new post mortem
series. Every Tuesday, We're forty eight
81
00:07:54.360 --> 00:08:00.639
hours. Correspondents and producers share their
first hand experiences reporting on the compelling cases
82
00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:05.639
they cover. You can also listen
to forty eight hours ad free by joining
83
00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.560
Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or
on Apple Podcasts.







