June 5, 2023

181: The Real Suburban Axe Murder: Candy & Betty

181: The Real Suburban Axe Murder: Candy & Betty

On a hot Friday the 13th in June of 1980, Allan Gore was worried. He couldn't get a hold of his wife, Betty. For hours, he'd called her over and over. No answer. Betty always answered. She didn’t get out by herself, especially not with their two small...

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On a hot Friday the 13th in June of 1980, Allan Gore was worried. He couldn't get a hold of his wife, Betty. For hours, he'd called her over and over. No answer. Betty always answered. She didn’t get out by herself, especially not with their two small daughters. She hated when he traveled--scared of being alone, so Allan was trying to check in to reassure her. Now he was starting to panic. He finally got his neighbors to get into his house. When he called back, he could never have been prepared for the staggering horror of what happened to his wife.

Sources: https://www.southernfriedtruecrime.com/candy-and-betty

This story has been requested numerous times literally since I started the show. I understand the fascination now. A real suburban axe murder. It sounds like fiction. So thank you most recently to Melody and Denise but also to everyone who has emailed me over the years. Y’all were right. This one was a doozy.

Hosted and produced by Erica Kelley
Researched and written by Andrea Marshbank & Erica Kelley
Original Graphic Art by Coley Horner
Original Music by Rob Harrison of Gamma Radio
Edited & Mixed by Brandon Schexnayder of Southern Gothic & Erica Kelley

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Southern Fried true crime covers cases that
are not suitable for young listeners, and

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there may also be some explicit language
used. Listener discretion is advised. On

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May ninth of nineteen eighty, the
blockbuster horror film Friday the Thirteenth premiered.

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The movie, which is now considered
a classic, was a huge success.

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Teenage camp counselors are being murdered by
a masked assailant. The killer uses multiple

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sharp objects to slay his victims,
one time gruesomely lodging an axe and a

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young woman's face. On May twenty
third of nineteen eighty, Stanley Kubricks the

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Shining debut in theaters, and this
horror film was also a huge success.

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Jack Nicholson stars as the caretaker of
an isolated hotel and the Rocky Mountains,

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and the most iconic scene in the
entire movie, A scene I know you've

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seen somewhere, is when he chases
down his wife with an axe after trapping

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her in a bathroom. He maniacally
chops his way through a wooden door and

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screams the famous lines here's Johnny fun
fact. Jack Nicholson was actually axing through

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a real door. Not so fun
fact Shelley Duval, who played Jack's wife

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Wendy, later says she was horrifically
traumatized by the filming of this movie because

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of Kubrick's methods and probably the experience
of filming with that real axe. Although

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Jack didn't kill his wife with that
axe, there's no denying that the fervor

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around axe murders was at an all
time high in nineteen eighty. It was

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thrilling because it was fake cinema fantasy, a way for us to live out

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our fears from the safety of a
theater while munching some popcorn. But only

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one month following the opening night of
these watershed films, an axe murder actually

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happened. It wasn't fake, it
was real. In Texas, a schoolteacher

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was killed by a housewife. You
cannot make this up. Welcome to episode

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one eighty one, The Real Suburban
axe Murder. Candy and Betty. Betty

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Eileen Pomeroy was born on January ninth, nineteen fifty in Norwich, Kansas.

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Her father, Bob, was an
insurance salesman, and her mother, Bertha,

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was a housewife. Betty also had
two brothers. Together, the family

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of five was the quintessential Midwestern American
family, industrious Christian folk who made a

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modest living, went to church every
Sunday and hardly ever called in sick,

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and they were well respected in the
Norwich community because of it. Norwich was

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and is a barely their town in
the rural countryside of south central cans It's

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thirty seven miles west of Wichita,
and that matters because if Norwich residents wanted

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anything clothes, restaurants, doctors,
they had to make the track to Wichita

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to get it. Back In nineteen
fifty, when Betty was born, only

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about four hundred people lived in Norwich, and in the late sixties, of

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those four hundred Norwich residents, young
Betty Pomeroy stood out from the crowd.

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She was a beautiful woman with a
striking smile and a bold personality. She

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made friends easily and was well liked, and she didn't shy away from hard

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work. When school let out in
the summertime, Betty always got a job

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helping out with a harvest on a
local farm, and when school was back

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in session, Betty thrived. She
was an enthusiastic student with a clever mind.

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When she graduated from Norwich High school
in nineteen sixty eight, she dreamed

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of becoming a teacher. She had
wanted a classroom of her own, and

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she was a little girl. So
that fall, Betty attended Southwestern College in

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Winfield, Kansas. She studied elementary
education, trying to make her dream a

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reality, and during her freshman year
there, Betty met a man. Well,

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actually, Betty met a lot of
men equipped with both beauty and brains.

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Eighteen year old Betty Pomeroy was a
hot commodity. But while Betty caught

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the attention of many, only one
man caught her eye. His name was

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Alan Gore. He was twenty one
years old, a senior at Southwestern College,

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and he was also Betty's math instructor. Although she was very bright,

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she had always struggled with math.
Alan, as her college teacher, also

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noticed that calculus was not Betty's strong
suit, and undoubtedly he also noticed that

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Betty was a pretty young thing,
a pretty young thing who was clearly interested

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in him. But Alan was a
respectable g He wasn't one to take his

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student's home, but when Betty approached
him for some extra tutoring, Alan found

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that he was smitten. He couldn't
and wouldn't refuse her anything. They met

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at the campus library to study a
few times, and by the next semester,

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when Betty was no longer Allan's student, the two were officially dating.

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Alan Dean Gore was born in nineteen
forty seven and raised in Larned, Kansas.

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Like Betty's hometown of Norwich, Larned
was also a small town in rural

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Kansas. Alan graduated from Larned Senior
High School in nineteen sixty five, and

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from there he pursued his math and
business degrees at Southwestern College, where he

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met Betty. After Allan graduated from
Southwestern in nineteen sixty nine, he enrolled

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in Kansas State University for his master's
degree in computer science. This was probably

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a very important moment for Alan and
Betty's relationship. They had only known each

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other for about a year. They
could have easily called it quits. After

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all, Allan was going to go
to a university that was two and a

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half hours away. Betty was either
going to have to relocate or commit to

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a long distance relationship. And this
was long before you could text your cross

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country boo. But Alan and Betty
knew they had something special, so they

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made it work. Allan proposed to
Betty in May of nineteen sixty nine,

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and in January of nineteen seventy they
were married. Betty transferred from Southwestern to

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Kansas State, and Allan graduated a
year later in nineteen seventy one. Alan

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and Betty's marriage shocked the Pomeroys.
He didn't match what they thought a man

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should be, but remember the context. Though they weren't farmers themselves, Betty's

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family embraced the farming culture of Kansas. They were tanned, calloused, Tossabelle

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of Hay over your shoulder type people, and Alan was the exact opposite of

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that. He was pale and wore
horn rimmed glasses. His hands were probably

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as soft as a baby's bottom.
According to Evidence of Love by journalist Atkinson

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and Briggs, Betty's father confided and
Betty's mother that for a guy who grew

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up in a Kansas farming town,
Alan sure didn't seem like a farm boy.

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Plus, Betty's friends and family thought
that Betty was a shining star,

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and they weren't sure Allan was good
enough for her. Betty was a dynamo

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and Alan, in comparison, was
downright plain people described him as quiet,

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average looking, and kind of a
snob. He was actually a bit shy,

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not snobby, but that's a common
mistake people may still Betty was sure

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of Alan. She liked how smarty
was, she liked how secure he was,

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both financially and emotionally, and she
preferred men who were a little older.

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She wasn't looking for a farm boy. She wanted Allan and that was

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the end of it. In nineteen
seventy one, Allan was hired at the

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White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. When he and Betty moved to New

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Mexico, she continued working on her
elementary education degree, and in nineteen seventy

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three she graduated from New Mexico State
University. That same year, she became

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pregnant with their first child. The
pregnancy was really hard on Betty. She

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had to go to the doctor all
the time. Her normal aches and pains,

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which were already pretty frequent, skyrocketed, and Betty's chronic depression, which

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she had always managed without medication,
became worse. When she gave birth to

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a little girl named Elissa in nineteen
seventy four, she was really struggling and

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Allen who had to travel often for
his job, wasn't home as much as

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Betty would have liked. She hated
being alone. By nineteen seventy seven,

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Betty, Allen and Alissa had moved
to a few different places, but they

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ended up in Wyley, Texas,
a small suburb twenty five miles northeast of

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Dallas and ten miles east of Plano. Back then, it was a population

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of only about three thousand, seven
hundred people, and Betty found a job

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teaching fifth grade reading at Arcy Dodd
Middle School. Unfortunately, she hated teaching,

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she had since she had gotten her
very first teaching job a few years

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earlier. As it turns out,
dreaming about becoming a teacher and actually stepping

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into the classroom were two very different
things. Betty didn't like how much the

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kids misbehaved. She became agitated when
her lesson plans didn't go perfectly. Ultimately,

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teaching just did not make Betty happy, and it showed just the summer

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before in nineteen seventy four, a
different Texas school district had not invited Betty

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to return after one year, and
teachers speak, Betty was fired. Did

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it hurt her feelings now more?
Than ever. She was determined to get

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into the classroom and prove herself.
Fortunately, she found that job at rc

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DOT, and there Betty decided she
could tolerate teaching. At this time,

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Alan was in a fairly high up
position at Rockwell International, an electronics conglomerate

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and major defense contractor. Alan had
been at Rockwell for several years by then,

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but in nineteen seventy seven, he
was starting a new position with a

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company. It wasn't a demotion or
anything. He had requested the change before.

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Alan's job required him to travel for
many weeks at a time, but

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all that travel upset Betty. She
was afraid of being alone, and she

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frankly abhorded. It wasn't an oh, sweetie, i'll miss you, I

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wish you were home more situation.
Betty could not stand when Alan was gone.

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It truly affected her mental health.
One time, when Alan was on

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a business trip in Switzerland, Betty
begged him to come home. When he

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wouldn't, she actually called his boss
and asked if Allen could come home.

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So realizing that Betty was seriously distressed
and didn't seem like she would ever get

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used to all his required travel,
Allen transferred to a different position with Rockwell,

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one that would allow him to stay
in Dallas, a more stable position,

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hopefully stabilizing his home life. In
nineteen seventy seven, everything seemed to

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be coming up roses for the Gore
family. Betty and Allan's little girl,

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Alyssa, was healthy. They had
just moved to a nice seventy thousand dollars

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three bedroom, two bathroom brick house
in the bedroom community of Wiley, Texas,

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and they had started attending the local
Methodist church and nearby Lucas. Their

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home would be worth about three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars today. The small

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suburb of Dallas is home to about
fifty five thousand people now and is still

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known one of the nicest places to
live around the big city. Wiley has

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a highly rated school system, lots
of parks, and most residents own their

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homes. It would be considered an
extremely safetown in nineteen seventy seven as well

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as today. Wiley is in Collin
County, which is home to several small

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cities and towns, including Fairview,
where friends of the Gores lived, which

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will be important later. Lucas plain
O McKinney Richardson, and others were all

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conglomerated in Collin County, and many
people from these towns traveled to the first

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United Methodist Church of Lucas. Betty
seemed to thrive in Wiley. She became

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an active member of their chosen church. She sang in the choir, co

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ordinated the youth group, and helped
arrange the women's division. And Alan's job,

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which now did not require travel,
was going well, and Betty,

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who still wasn't a big fan of
teaching, was managing all right with her

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fifth grade students. But looks are
deceiving. I'm going to pause now for

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a short commercial break. In the
fall of nineteen seventy eight, Betty and

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Allen decided that they were ready for
their second child. This baby would be

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carefully planned, unlike their firstborn.
Betty wanted to give birth in the summer

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so she wouldn't have to take time
off from teaching, so she and Alan

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started having sex primarily and Betty's fertility
window. At first, Alan thought trying

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for her second baby sounded like a
lot of fun, but he was quickly

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turned off by this new rigid sex
schedule. To him, it wasn't romantic

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and honestly, Betty and Allan weren't
doing so well in the romance department even

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before the sex schedule. Keep in
mind, Betty and Allen had been married

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for eight years. I don't care
who you are. The honeymoon period does

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pass, and your partner is going
to annoy the shit out of you some

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days. But Alan felt like he
and Betty were doing way worse than the

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average married couple, and he attributed
a lot of it to Betty's job.

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Since Betty hated teaching, she would
come home from work anxious and stressed.

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Even before they started trying for their
second child, Betty and Allan rarely had

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sex due to Betty's stress, and
when they did, according to Alan,

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it was mechanical, not fun.
Some church friends of Betty and Allan noticed

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their relationship troubles, so they suggested
a program they had done called Marriage Encounters.

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Basically, it was a weekend of
marriage counseling disguised as a fun vacation

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getaway. Couples would arrive at a
hotel, spend two days doing guided therapy

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exercises with their spouse, and leave
feeling closer than ever. Alan thought this

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was a great idea. A chance
to reconnect with Betty. But Betty,

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who was constantly overwhelmed by teaching,
thought it sounded like the weekend from hell.

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How was she going to get these
papers graded if she was away for

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the weekend? Who was going to
write her lesson plans if she was busy

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working on her marriage? According to
Texas Monthly, Betty turned to Alan and

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asked, you don't think there's something
wrong with us, do you? And

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after that, Alan dropped the subject
of their relationship altogether. Now let's take

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a second to appreciate Betty's perspective.
You might be thinking, Wow, she's

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just so negative. She didn't want
to try at all. But Betty isn't

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here to tell her side of the
story, and so their relationship has only

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been conveyed through Alan's perspective, in
combination with some friends and family who spoke

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with reporters. And also, Betty
was a teacher, she was busy.

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Why couldn't they do the marriage Encounters
program in the summer. Why was it

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always Allan's way or the highway?
I've known a lot of teachers in my

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life, and it is an extremely
stressful job, even if you love it,

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which Betty didn't. I can see
how adding stuff to her plate during

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the school year would antagonize her.
I'll get back to the case now,

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but just remember Betty was really going
through it, and Alan could have done

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a million things other than what he
actually did. In early July of nineteen

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seventy nine, Betty and Allan had
their second child, Bethany, and following

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Bethany's birth, Betty and Allan were
closer than ever. Finally it felt like

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they were on their way to rekindling
their relationship. They chose kind of sweet

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matching names for their girls, Allan
and Alissa, Betty and Bethany, details

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like this twist my heart. And
about a year later, in the summer

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of nineteen eighty, Alan and Betty
had put a lot of work into their

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marriage. Alan had taken a new
job that required almost zero travel, just

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how Betty liked it, and Betty
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Things were going swell for the Gore
family. It finally felt like they

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were back on track. On June
thirteenth of nineteen eighty, thirty three year

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old Alan Gore left his wily home
at about eight am. He was catching

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a flight to Saint Paul, Minnesota
on a business trip. Since he had

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accepted this new job, these trips
were rare, but he couldn't avoid this

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one, and he was actually kind
of looking forward to it. The project

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really intrigued him, but at the
same time, Alan knew this trip would

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be hard on Betty. Right before
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he called the landline at his home, expecting Betty to pick up.

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He waited for eleven or twelve rings, but no one answered the phone,

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and she should have picked up,
but she didn't. Huh. Alan probably

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thought weird. When he arrived in
Saint Paul, he called Betty again,

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still no answer. As he worked
on a Saint Paul project, his mind

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wandered back to his wife. Why
wasn't Betty answering the phone. Allan was

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getting worried. He rationalized that perhaps
Betty had taken an afternoon walk with baby

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Bethany, or maybe she was angry
with him. It's possible she could have

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said something that morning that Alan forgot. But Allan wasn't too concerned that Betty

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was mad at him. After all, he had planned a trip to Europe

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for Betty. They were leaving the
next week, and they were very excited.

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This would be Alan and Betty's first
outing without their kids in four years.

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Their daughters were staying with Betty's parents. In many ways, this could

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be considered Alan and Betty's second honeymoon, and that felt especially appropriate after all

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the work they had done on their
marriage recently, including renewing their vows at

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that marriage Encounter's program. Alan called
Betty from his hotel room that night,

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still no answer. At this point, he was very concerned. He called

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his neighbor and real estate agent,
Richard Parker. Allan and Richard weren't really

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friends, but when he asked Richard
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He knocked on the door to the
Gore home, but no one answered.

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Richard told Allan that Betty must be
out, but Alan knew that Betty

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would have told him if she was
leaving. She was always extra careful when

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he was gone. Allan called his
friend from church, a woman named Candy

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Montgomery, to see if she could
go check on Betty. Candy was watching

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Betty and Allan's oldest daughter, five
year old Alyssa, that day. Candy

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explained to Allan that she had seen
Betty just that morning, and Betty had

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been fine. She reassured Allan that
nothing was wrong, but she did offer

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to go to Allan's house to check
on Betty, but Candy lived over in

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Fairview, so he said he would
call his neighbors back instead. He tried

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calling Betty again first, then doled
Richard's number again. This time, he

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asked Richard to look in the garage
for Betty's car. Richard came back to

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the phone and said that the garage
door was open, the lights were on,

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but he didn't see Betty's car.
Alan was baffled. Why would Betty

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leave the garage door open? Was
she sick? He called the local hospitals,

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but she wasn't there. He called
the police, but they also couldn't

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help him, which is a bit
odd. A welfare check wouldn't have been

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out of line for a young mother, but they did decline to help,

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so Alan was left hanging on the
other end of the phone, becoming more

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and more frantic about his wife.
Betty was a fragile person, and even

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more so when she was alone.
Alan called Candy again, then he called

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Richard again. Richard was getting annoyed
he didn't know Alan all that well,

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and he thought Alan's wife was probably
fine, just one drunk at a friend's

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house or something. Since Allan was
out of town still, he agreed to

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go check on the house again.
Alan suggested that maybe Betty had left a

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note on a door somewhere, so
Richard kept his eyes peeled this time.

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As he checked the house, he
noticed that there were two cars in the

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garage. If Betty had gone somewhere, one of the cars should have been

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gone. Richard also noticed that the
lights were on inside the house, but

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still no one was answering the door. Now he had a bad feeling.

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He told Allan something's wrong. Alan, I don't know what, but something's

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wrong. Both cars are there and
the lights are on, but nobody answers.

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If Alan was ever calm during all
of this, he wasn't anymore.

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This was an emergency. He told
Richard to get into that house by any

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means necessary. Reluctantly, Richard agreed. Alan could sense Richard's reluctance, so

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he called yet another friend. This
friend was Jerry McMahon, a computer analyst

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who lived across the street from the
Gores. At Alan's request, Jerry grabbed

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his flashlight and went to investigate the
Gore house. He didn't find anything new,

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same lights on open garage, no
one answering, repeated Knox. Jerry

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called Allan back and insisted Betty must
be at a friend's house. But Allan,

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now probably losing his damn mind,
knew better, He knew his wife

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better. Allan told Jerry, no, she's not with friends. I've already

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tried that. Get in that house
and see what's wrong. Take the windows

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off, force the doors, whatever
it takes. Jerry didn't want to break

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into Allan's house, so he called
his barber, Leicester Galer. As Jerry

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and Lester prepared to break into Allan's
house, Richard, the reluctant neighbor,

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finally showed up. He had a
bunch of house keys with him. Since

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Richard was the real estate agent who
sold the house to Betty and Allan,

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he figured he might still have a
key to the place in his key stash.

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Together, the three men went through
key after key trying to get the

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backdoor open, but none of the
keys worked. Finally, Richard tried the

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front door and to his surprise,
it swung open. It was unlocked.

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It had probably been unlocked this entire
time. All three men immediately understood the

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importance of an unlocked door and Betty
not answering the phone. They hesitated before

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going in. When they did,
it was like stepping into a horror movie.

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pm on June thirteenth, nineteen eighty, Richard Parker, Jerry McMahon, and

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Lester Galor gathered up their courage to
enter the Gore home. They were looking

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for Alan's wife, Betty, and
they all had a bad feeling about this.

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Now she hadn't answered the Gore's house
land line for over ten hours.

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As the three men went inside and
started searching each room, they yelled Betty's

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name, but she didn't respond.
They found eleven month old Bethany Gore first.

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She was crying in her crib and
she had clearly been alone for some

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time. The poor baby was covered
in her own filth, and she had

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cried so long her voice was hoarse. Richard took Bethany across the street to

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his house, where his wife took
care of her. Back in the Gore

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house, the men carefully opened each
door looking for Betty. During the search,

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they noticed a strong pungent odor coming
from somewhere. They couldn't tell where

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until Lester opened the door to the
laundry room. It was attached to the

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kitchen. When he opened the door, he saw all blood, so much

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blood. He immediately closed it.
He hadn't seen Betty's body, but he

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knew she was in there. Next, Jerry looked inside the small twelve by

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six room. He shut the door
quickly and declared, she's dead. She's

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blown her head off. At this
same time, Allan called his home's landline

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again. Lester picked up, but
chickened out and handed the phone to Jerry,

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and Jerry told Alan that his baby
daughter Bethany was safe, but thirty

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year old Betty Eileen Gore was dead. Jerry had assumed it was a suicide

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and probably told Alan as much,
but Jerry also said that he had seen

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a three foot long wood handled axe
in the utility room with Betty, so

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maybe this was an axe murder.
Allan called Candy to tell her the news

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at eleven thirty pm. Candy sounded
shocked and then asked if Bethany was okay,

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and Alan and said she was.
Then he asked Candy not to tell

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five year old Elissa of her mother's
death, he wanted to tell her himself.

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Before Alan hung up, He asked
Candy to watch Elyssa for a few

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more days, and she agreed.
When detectives arrived at the Gore house,

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they quickly determined that Betty's death was
definitely not a suicide. No one could

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have done to themselves what someone had
done to Betty. It just wasn't physically

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possible. The blood covered axe in
the laundry room was obviously the murder weapon,

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and initial reports claimed that Betty had
suffered fifteen chop wounds from the axe,

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but later the autopsy would indicate that
Betty had actually endured forty one chop

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wounds, and she was alive for
forty of them. Twenty eight of the

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blows were directly to her face.
Her skull was crushed from the front and

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back. One of her arms was
almost severed, probably in her desperate attempt

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to shield her head. Her cause
of death was written as blows to the

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head. Needless to say, the
crime scene was incredibly gruesome, with blood

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splashed up the walls and all over
the small room, and Betty lying in

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a very large, congealing pool of
blood. Her head was so mangled.

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The officers struggled to look at her. Journalist Jim Atkinson and John Bloom wrote

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in Texas Monthly the following description,
which is graphic if you want to skip

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ahead about thirty seconds. To get
a look at her face, the men

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had to walk around the ocean of
red. What they saw was even more

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unsettling. Her lips were parted,
showing her front teeth, her mouth fashioned

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into a half grin. Her hair
radiated in all directions a tangled, soaked

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mess of glistening black, and Betty's
left eye was wide open, staring down

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at the gaping black craters in her
arm. As to her right eye,

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she appeared to not have one.
The entire right half of her face seemed

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to be gone. The investigation into
Betty's murder was conducted by the Collin County

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Sheriff's Office, the Wily Police Department, and the Dallas Homicide Detective Unit.

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From the jump, they knew this
wasn't a robbery. There was cash lying

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out in the open, completely untouched. As police combed the Gore household,

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they of course found the axe,
but they also discovered the following key pieces

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of evidence. A small bloody footprint
near Betty's body, a bloody fingerprint on

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the refrigerator, and both blood and
hair in the Gore shower, as if

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someone had tried to clean themselves up
after killing Betty. There was blood on

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the Fawcets soap, dish, shower
curtain and in the tub. Keep in

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mind, we're in nineteen eighty right
now. DNA analysis was a long ways

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away, so despite having both blood
and hair samples that were probably from the

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killer, the detectives couldn't do much
with it. They could do something with

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a fingerprint. However, the police
chief told the fort Worth Star Telegram that

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he had no motive and no suspects. Betty hadn't been robbed or raped.

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There weren't even signs of a forced
entry, but clearly she was murdered.

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It looked like a crime of passion
and also not premeditated. The acts came

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from inside the Gore home. The
killer did not bring it with them,

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and Betty had clearly opened the door
for this person. It was someone she

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knew, or at least wasn't afraid
of. News about Betty Gore's death traveled

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fast. Hers was the first murderer
while he had seen in fifteen years,

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and as a result, the entire
town was a twitter. Friends called friends,

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who called two more friends. They
all concluded that it had to be

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some very sick person who had so
viciously murdered Betty Gore. The only solace

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they had as the murderer walked free
was that they probably weren't going to kill

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again. After all, the axe
that was used to murder Betty was from

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Betty's own house. It hung in
her garage. If some psycho ax murderer

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was wandering the streets, surely they
would have their own acts, or at

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the very least, they would have
taken the one they used to murder Betty.

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One law official named John Buddy Newton
told the Associated Press, it's just

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my personal opinion, based on no
evidence, that this was a one shot

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deal executed in a moment of frenzy. I don't feel like there's a psycho

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on the loose. I think the
person was the intended victim and there was

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no reason other than what motivated the
killer. I could be entirely wrong,

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but it is just a gut feeling. The killer went after the person they

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wanted and did a very thorough job
of it. Newton would be pretty much

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right. This was personal and people
probably didn't need to worry about a killer

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on the loose. Regardless, the
public was still scared. A woman was

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literally chopped to pieces. It's scary. Everyone double checked that their doors were

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locked each night and kept loaded guns
at the ready. One of Betty's neighbors

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told the AP I hate to say
this, but I hope it was someone

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who knew her. It's really scary
to think about some weirdo just walking in

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off the street and doing it.
On June sixteenth, three days after the

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murderer, over two hundred and fifty
people attended Betty's funeral at her Methodist church.

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The next day, AP News reported
that local detectives were still unsure of

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what happened Betty. A wily police
officer told the reporters, we don't have

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anything, really, and we don't
know anything, not a thing so far.

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The investigators had picked up two men
thinking they could be somehow related to

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Betty's case, but they weren't.
And then on June twentieth, seven days

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after Betty's murder, newspapers reported that
a Dallas County fingerprint expert had a strong

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lead. They had successful identified a
suspect for Betty Gore's killer. Using that

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bloody fingerprint on the fridge, they
matched a set of prints from a female

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subject. They wouldn't name who this
female subject was. They only referenced her

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as a friend of the family.
Two days passed and no arrest was made.

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The people of Wiley were baffled.
If the police had, as they

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said in their own words, a
good clean match for the bloody fingerprint,

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why was there no arrest. Was
a killer just walking free? None of

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00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:37.200
this made sense. Finally, on
Jean twenty sixth, nineteen eighty, thirteen

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00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:43.599
days after Betty was killed, some
progress was made. The police arrested thirty

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year old Candy Lynn Montgomery, a
friend of the Gore family, a housewife,

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a devout churchgoer, and Alan Gore's
mistress. I'm going to pause now

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for a commercial break. Candice Lynne
Wheeler was born on November fifteenth, nineteen

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forty nine. Her father was a
radar technician for the military, so Candy

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00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.360
was an army brat, moving across
the United States a lot during her childhood,

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as well as overseas, and every
time Candy's family relocated to a new

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state, she did pretty well.
She would meet new people, build a

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00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:29.559
new life, and do her best
to thrive. After moving around so much,

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she learned to be really friendly,
not necessarily outspoken or loud, but

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just nice, the kind of woman
who felt at home anywhere and everywhere.

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She was easygoing and had a quiet
confidence about her. Texas Monthly described Candy

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as a pretty vivacious, utterly normal
suburban housewife. They went on to say

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she was a loving mother, a
devoted wife, a churchgoer, and everyone's

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00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:00.519
friend to those around Candy, her
sweetness didn't feel like an act. She

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00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:05.360
wasn't a sociopath hidden in plain sight. She was just a kind person,

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or at least she seemed like one. Candy married her husband, Pat on

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October sixth, nineteen seventy in al
Paso, Texas, when she was twenty

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years old. Pat Montgomery, as
they pronounced it, had been older at

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twenty five, and he was a
rising star in the electrical engineering world.

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He worked for Texas Instruments, which
was actually where he met Candy. She

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00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:36.559
was a secretary there. In nineteen
seventy seven, after seven years of marriage,

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Candy and Pat moved to Fairview,
Texas, another suburb of Dallas.

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By this time, they had a
son and a daughter, and Pat was

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00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.559
doing really well. He made seventy
thousand a year at Texas Instruments today about

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three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
year. As you can imagine, Candy

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00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.800
did not need to work, so
she was a housewife. She took care

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of the kids, the house,
cooked, ran all the errands, and

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00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:07.119
by Candy's own admission, she was
still bored. She decided to do something

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00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:13.800
about it, create a little adventure
in her humdrum, whitebread life. So

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00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.079
she decided to have an affair.
She even spoke to her friends about it

434
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:22.320
in a hypothetical way. Of course, she joked about taking a lover,

435
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.719
but it wasn't all jokes. She
explained to her friends that she wasn't feeling

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00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.239
the spark with Pat anymore. They
had been arguing a lot, and she

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00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:37.880
wanted better sex. Candy's exact words
were, I want fireworks. She met

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00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.000
Alan Gore in late nineteen seventy seven. She and Pat went to the same

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00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.639
church as Alan and Betty, and
as active church members, they ran into

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00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:51.159
each other a lot. Their choir
practices were at the same time they played

441
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.400
on the church volleyball team together,
and because of all that, Candy and

442
00:36:54.440 --> 00:37:00.320
Allan would chat frequently and no one
thought anything of it. Maybe Allan teased

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00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.840
Candy a little more than he did
the other women at church. Maybe their

444
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:08.679
shared smiles seemed to tad too intimate. But for the most part, it

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00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:13.440
just seemed like Candy and Pat had
bonded with Betty and Allan. Though way

446
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.079
married couples with kids do. They
would babysit each other's children and wave if

447
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.840
they passed each other on the street. They had a lot in common.

448
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.400
Both men worked in what was called
silicon prairie and lucrative tech jobs, and

449
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:31.599
they were both relatively happy with home
and work. Both women felt stifled and

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00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:37.280
bored in their small towns, their
lives molded around their husband and children.

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00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.440
Of course, outwardly they would say
they had the church choir and young daughters

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00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:46.800
in common. Their girls were best
friends. But they were both unhappy in

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00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:52.920
their lives. In a way,
they were warped mirror images of their happy,

454
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.760
go lucky husbands. Candy just hid
it under a happy housewife facade,

455
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:04.599
while Betty seemed to emanate unhappy happiness
to everyone. But back to the affair,

456
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.320
if Candy knew Allan for months before
they began their affair. What spurred

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00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:13.199
it? What caused Candy to think
Allan, of all people, would be

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00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.639
a great person to have an affair
with. Remember, Allan was not a

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00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:22.360
traditionally handsome guy. He had a
receding hairline, a bit of a gut.

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00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.599
He wasn't a snappy dresser. I
am not trying to hate on Alan,

461
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.760
but it's the truth, and a
lot of people have wondered why she

462
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.800
was attracted to him. I feel
like I need to point out that Candy

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00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.480
was considered attractive, though not a
knockout. She was thin, an athletic

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00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.920
build. But it's her styling you'll
wonder about. Many of you may see

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00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.599
photos and disagree that she was attractive. I went through this with Darley Routier,

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00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:52.360
so I get it. I ask
of you to remember that hairstyles over

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00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.239
forty years ago were a trip.
Perms were all the rage, though at

468
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.719
least my mom had long hair when
she permed hers. But the hairstyle Candy

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00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:07.800
war was not unusual, just a
tad short. She was also later advised

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00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.000
to change her hair to a more
conservative style for court, which is where

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00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.920
most photos you will see come from. Is it attractive now once she changed

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00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.639
it? Hell no, But this
isn't nineteen eighty and it was considered a

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00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:28.079
mousei hairdo even then. And let's
be more fair, Candy's husband Pat wasn't

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00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.960
a looker either, and Betty,
while she did have a lovely smile,

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00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:36.800
had a haircut worse than Candies,
and the stress and depression she suffered in

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00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:42.559
her later years showed on her.
The point is all of these people were

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00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.400
just normal people. That's what makes
this story so salacious. It wasn't really

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00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:52.760
Candy's looks that attracted Alan. He
was flattered and enjoyed her forwardness anyway.

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00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.079
According to Texas Monthly, in the
summer of nineteen seventy eight, there was

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a catalyst that ignited Candy's flame for
Alan. As the story goes, Candy

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00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.360
and Allan bumped into each other while
playing volleyball together, and that's when Candy

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00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:13.960
noticed that Alan smelled really good.
According to Texas Monthly, Alan smelled so

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00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.840
good that Candy just had to have
him. So one day, following choir

484
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.320
practice, Alan was walking to his
car and that's when Candy stopped him.

485
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.920
He was already in the driver's seat, so she opened the passenger door and

486
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.360
got in his car. According to
Texas Monthly, Candy said, Alan,

487
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:37.360
I'll want to talk to you sometime
about something that's been bothering me. I've

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00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.880
been thinking about you a lot,
and I don't know whether I want you

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00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:44.760
to do anything about it or not. Then she got out of the car

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00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.760
and left. Alan was shocked,
though, like I said, flattered.

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00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:54.119
This exchange was very unusual for him, but he was intrigued. A week

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00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:59.159
later, Alan and Candy began chatting
after a church volleyball game. They were

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00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.880
cleaning up the gym and walked out
to their cars together. It was then

494
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.079
that Allan asked Candy what she had
meant when she approached him earlier, and

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00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:13.559
Candy asked, would you be interested
in having an affair? Allan didn't know

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00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.079
how to respond. He told Candy
that he loved Betty. He mentioned that

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00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.760
Betty had had a brief affair when
they lived in New Mexico years earlier.

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00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:27.719
He had obviously forgiven her, but
not forgotten it. Alan remembered that he

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00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.920
was so incredibly hurt by her infidelity
that he didn't want to do the same

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00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.559
thing to Betty, especially since they
had just found out that Betty was pregnant,

501
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.480
so Candy pulled back. She agreed
with Alan, and she said it

502
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.000
would be best not to hurt her
husband too. According to Texas Monthly,

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00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.639
Candy said, I was just putting
the option out there because of how I

504
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.079
felt, and it's up to you
to decide. I don't want to hurt

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00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.559
your marriage. All I wanted to
do was go to bed. I won't

506
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:00.800
mention it again. Then Candy chased, kissed Alan on the lips, and

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00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:07.440
left. About three weeks past Then, on Candy's twenty ninth birthday, Alan

508
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.960
called her. He offered to take
her out to lunch to discuss a potential

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00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.880
affair. He needed to go to
an auto repair shop that was relatively close

510
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:22.519
to Candy, so they met at
the car shop and Alan gave her a

511
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:27.280
birthday card. It read for the
Last of the Red Hot Lovers and had

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00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:31.719
a bat of red Hot candies inside. Then they just chatted about anything and

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00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:37.880
everything. Candy spoke with Alan about
her creative writing course, which was especially

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00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.280
exciting since her husband Pat never wanted
to talk about how well she was doing

515
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:47.480
in that class. At the end
of this conversation, Alan admitted that he

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00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.800
had never had an affair before.
Candy said she never had either. The

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00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:58.159
two discussed how concerned they were about
hurting their spouses. They vowed to not

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00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:02.159
get emotionally involved, that everything would
be purely physical. By the end of

519
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:09.280
the conversation, they determined they would
continue evaluating the risks again. Weeks passed,

520
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.360
Candy and Allan continued to talk about
the risks of having an affair.

521
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.599
Truly, it feels like they were
hemming and hawing just for show, or

522
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.679
I guess this was a type of
four play. They had never really flirted

523
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:29.599
before Candy's proposition, so maybe that's
what all this was. But they definitely

524
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:34.800
kept it about the ramifications of an
affair. They would ask questions like when

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00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.960
would we do it? What if
somebody saw us, and debate the answers

526
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:43.280
to no end. At one point, Candy invited Alan to her house for

527
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.679
lunch one day and presented a big
piece of butcher paper for them to write

528
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:52.639
down a proclm list about their affair. It was titled Whys and why Nots.

529
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:58.119
It was intended as a cute joke, but it was also in a

530
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:04.000
way serious. After all, they
did write down pro con bulletin points on

531
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.320
the butcher paper. The biggest con
was, of course, getting caught,

532
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:15.400
but Candy reassured Alan that they would
be very careful. Alan was also worried

533
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.840
that either he or Candy would become
emotionally entangled. Candy said, as reported

534
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.000
by Texas Monthly, Alan, as
far as I'm concerned, this is just

535
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.320
for fun. I'm not serious about
it. It's just a companionship thing,

536
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.920
and we shouldn't be afraid of it. Whatever happens, will do it for

537
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.960
a while, and then it will
be over. That lunch at Candy's helped

538
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:43.199
keep building the tension towards the big
moment when it finally happened, and eventually

539
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.800
it did happen. A few days
after the big pro con list, Allan

540
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:52.599
called An affirmed he wanted an affair
with Candy. Then Candy created a list

541
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:59.800
of rules so they could keep the
affair with them predetermined parameters. Some stand

542
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.559
out rules included if either one of
them ever wanted to end the affair for

543
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.599
whatever reason, it would end,
no questions asked. If either one became

544
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:13.840
too emotionally involved, the affair would
end. If they ever started taking risks

545
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.800
that shouldn't be taken, the affair
would end. All expenses, food,

546
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.960
motel, room, gasoline would be
shared equally. They would meet only on

547
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.280
week days while their spouses were at
work. Candy would be in charge of

548
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.159
fixing lunch on the days they met
so that they could have more time with

549
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.599
every possible TEA crossed and I dotted. The two set the date for their

550
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:42.159
affair to launch, December twelfth,
nineteen seventy eight. Betty, who was

551
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:46.480
still pregnant, didn't suspect anything,
and Pat was also none the wiser.

552
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.480
Once every other week, Candy would
wake up extra early to cook a lavish

553
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:57.840
lunch. She'd pack it neatly in
a picnic basket, and then she and

554
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.679
Alan would meet during his lunch hour. Candy always booked the Como motel and

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00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:07.480
Richardson for twenty three dollars a day. Allan was in a high up,

556
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:12.079
trusted position at work, so he
could take two hour lunches with no one

557
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:16.119
noticing, and he often did when
he was with Candy. Richardson is another

558
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:21.840
suburb of Dallas and about fifteen minutes
from Candy's home in Fairview, so it

559
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.000
wasn't in the town's either new lover
lived nor where Allan and Pat worked,

560
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:30.440
but it was close enough to be
convenient for Candy, who, let's face

561
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:35.000
it, did all the work at
the como. The two would eat half

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00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.320
sex, and then it was just
pillow talk until it was time for Allan

563
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.920
to head back to work. For
a few months, this was pretty exciting

564
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:47.280
for both Allan and Candy. Allan, who wasn't very experienced sexually, thought

565
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:52.800
Candy was good in bed, and
Candy thought Allan showed potential. But after

566
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:58.320
a while she realized the sex with
Allan was not getting any better, and

567
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.719
it was actually a lot of work
for her to get up early and make

568
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:07.480
these extravagant lunches on their affair days. Not to mention, Alan had started

569
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:12.440
expecting more from Candy, sweet notes
packed in the lunch cookies for him to

570
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.400
take home, little things that just
gave Candy more and more work to do.

571
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:21.159
She had done these things willingly in
the beginning, little shows of affection,

572
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.760
but now it was becoming work.
After a while, Candy and Alan

573
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.559
stopped having sexes often. They still
met regularly and had sex sometimes, but

574
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:36.719
they were more best friends than lovers, as Texas Monthly described it. But

575
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:42.239
that didn't stop Candy from falling for
Alan, which is now when my old

576
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.400
ass will remind you that the best
romantic relationships are people who are best friends

577
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:53.760
companionship, being able to really talk
to someone creates real intimacy. So even

578
00:47:53.760 --> 00:48:00.199
though Candy was disappointed by the sex
in February of nineteen seventy nine, old

579
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.559
Allan she was thinking about him too
much and she didn't want to have to

580
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.199
deal with the inevitable heartbreak. She
was trying to end the affair, but

581
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:13.599
Alan stopped Candy in her tracks.
He reassured her that the relationship wouldn't get

582
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:19.760
too serious. Without much argument,
Candy agreed. Although Alan was in this

583
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.840
just as deeply as Candy, he
wasn't catching feelings the way she was.

584
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:28.840
He just felt like he needed her. Did you just hear Phil Collins singing

585
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:30.960
to you? Because I did?
I love that song in too deep?

586
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:37.840
Anyway, their relationship was special and
thrilling. It improved Alan's self confidence to

587
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:43.440
have a pretty woman infatuated with him, cooking meals for him and having sex

588
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:49.159
with him. Of Course, Alan
had no intention ever of divorcing Betty,

589
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:53.639
let alone marrying Candy. He just
liked their little secret, their shared glances

590
00:48:53.679 --> 00:49:00.519
at church, Alan felt wanted and
that's all he wanted. And now at

591
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.679
Erica will tell you that this is
another cliche. This affair was supposed to

592
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:10.320
be exciting. Candy didn't feel excited
yet she felt emotionally attached. Alan was

593
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.519
excited, but he didn't fell in
love with Candy, but he had bigger

594
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.199
problems. In June of nineteen seventy
nine, Allan became worried that is now

595
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.239
seven months pregnant wife would go into
labor while he was out having an affair

596
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:30.440
with Candy. He wouldn't be reachable
since he would be at the unknown hotel.

597
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.880
And yes, cheating on your pregnant
wife is some next level stassary,

598
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.159
but at least Alan knew he would
be devastated if his baby was born while

599
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:45.920
he was off cheating on his wife. He suggested to Candy that they paused

600
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.079
their affair until the baby was born, and Candy agreed. What a gentleman.

601
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.280
That same month, Candy threw Betty
a surprised baby shower. Most of

602
00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:00.840
the churchwomen came. They ate cake, open gifts, and a generally good

603
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:07.679
time. Betty appeared unaware of Candy's
affair with her husband, which is just

604
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:12.719
bananas. Alan haunts the affair,
so then Candy throws his wife a baby

605
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:17.440
shower. You can't make this shut
up anyway. That July of nineteen seventy

606
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.519
nine, as you know, Betty
gave birth to Bethany. Following that,

607
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:28.199
Candy and Allan resumed their affair,
but it wasn't the same. Allan,

608
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:32.079
for the first time ever, felt
guilty about what he was doing to Betty,

609
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:38.079
and Alan might have had a gut
feeling that Betty suspected something. I'm

610
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:49.039
going to pause now for a short
commercial break. Right after Bethany was born,

611
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.880
Alan and Betty planned a trip to
Kansas. They wanted to show off

612
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.960
their new baby to Betty's parents in
Norwich. They arrived back at their home

613
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:01.480
late on a Thursday night. Betty
figured that Allan wouldn't go into work the

614
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:05.639
next day, after all, that's
what he had done in the past.

615
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.400
But for some reason, Allan was
insistent he needed to go back to the

616
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:15.400
office tomorrow. And we know why. Alan had a date with Candy over

617
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.920
his lunch hour. But Betty didn't
know this, and she was pissed.

618
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.400
She kept asking Alan why what on
earth was going on at work that was

619
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:29.360
so urgent. She needed his help
unpacking, managing the kids, and running

620
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:35.360
errands. It felt like Alan was
abandoning her. Finally, Alan relented,

621
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.000
but before he went to bed that
Thursday night, he did something out of

622
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:44.360
the ordinary. He called Candy Montgomery. While on the phone with Candy,

623
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:49.480
Allan brought up some church function that
Betty hadn't heard of. He told Candy

624
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.239
he wouldn't be able to make it
to the function the next day. Betty

625
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:57.360
didn't think much of this exchange.
She and Allan were heavily involved at the

626
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.559
local Methodist church. They did a
lot of events. It's not impossible that

627
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:07.800
maybe some function or another had slipped
her mind. But Betty did remember this

628
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.599
incident later, whether she meant to
or not, and she might have thought

629
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:16.119
about it a few times, especially
after one particular night when Betty wanted to

630
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:22.280
have sex with Alan. This was
rare for Betty. She never initiated sex.

631
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:27.039
In fact, they hadn't even had
sex since Bethany was born weeks earlier,

632
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:31.239
and Allan, knowing that his wife
hardly ever offered sex without coaxing,

633
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:37.000
turned her down. He said he
was too tired. Now Betty was hurt

634
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:43.519
defeated, and she told Alan as
much. Betty said she felt unloved and

635
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:49.920
fat, and nothing Allan said could
fix it. For such a conservatively raised

636
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.920
woman to get up the nerve to
make the first move and then be rejected

637
00:52:53.119 --> 00:53:00.480
would be the ultimate humiliation, and
it certainly was for Betty. Fall of

638
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:05.599
nineteen seventy nine, Betty became depressed. She returned to teaching, which,

639
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:09.480
considering how little she enjoyed her job, didn't help her depression, and she

640
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:15.119
started getting horrible back pains. Her
neck was constantly sore. That's the thing

641
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:21.599
with depression, it can make your
whole body hurt. Betty was losing her

642
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.800
spark. Her confidence was gone.
She was a shell of who she used

643
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:30.519
to be, and Alan noticed.
He came to Candy trying to end the

644
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:35.840
affair, but Candy wasn't having it. Alan tried to explain he told Candy

645
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.159
about the night that he couldn't perform
for Betty and how destructive it was to

646
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:45.920
his marriage, but Candy argued.
She said that Betty was being unfair,

647
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.719
and she also accused Allan of being
unfair. When Candy had wanted to end

648
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.280
things months ago, he wouldn't let
her, but now now he wanted to

649
00:53:54.400 --> 00:54:00.239
end things. After this debacle,
Candy and Allan's affair and last much longer.

650
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:06.639
Allan started a new job, one
that required less travel so he could

651
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:09.480
spend more time with Betty, and
then he and Betty had their life changing

652
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:15.079
experience at the Marriage Encounters program.
That was the last straw that broke the

653
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:20.880
camel's back. In late nineteen seventy
nine, Allan came to Candy and explained

654
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:24.840
that he wanted to give his full
resources to his family. Their affair was

655
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:30.400
over. Candy and pat actually did
the same Marriage Accounters program too, once

656
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.159
Candy saw the difference in the Gore
marriage, but they didn't have the same

657
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:40.159
great results as Betty and Allen.
On Friday, June thirteenth of nineteen eighty,

658
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.320
the day Betty was murdered, Candy
and Allan's affair had been over for

659
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:50.719
about half a year. Alyssa had
spent the night at Candy's house the night

660
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:55.280
before. She was best friends with
Jenny, Candy's daughter. Candy then took

661
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.960
all the kids to vacation Bobble School, which she, of course had held

662
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.000
help to organize. Alyssa often spent
the night, but this week Candy could

663
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:09.320
drive her to vacation Bible School for
Betty. Candy, always the perfect mom,

664
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:15.119
never hesitated to help out her friends. I think it's a testament that

665
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:20.639
she didn't have any lingering, jealousy
or feelings for Alan too. That morning,

666
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:24.039
the girls begged for Elissa to stay
one more night because the Montgomery family

667
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:29.559
was going to the movies that night
to see The Empire Strikes Back. She

668
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:34.840
said, of course and promised to
ask Betty for Elyssa. She called her

669
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.119
and was supposed to come by around
noon to pick up Alyssa's swimsuit. The

670
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:43.559
little girl had swim lessons that afternoon, and despite the busy day and evening

671
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:49.000
plans, Candy was still taken Alyssa
to her lesson, but she decided to

672
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:52.480
run over to the Gore House earlier. That way, Candy could take Alyssa

673
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:57.880
to her swim lesson right after Vacation
Bobble School, and then they would all

674
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:02.000
go meet Pat Montgomery at the movie
theme her. Candy also needed to stop

675
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:07.280
and get Father's Day cards. The
holiday was that weekend. She had her

676
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:12.000
day regimented tightly, and she also
wanted to get back to vacation Bobble school,

677
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.800
and time to see the kid's puppet
show. In the book Evidence of

678
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.639
Love, they illustrate what a pain
in the ass all this was for Candy.

679
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.000
She lived in Fairview, the church
was in Lucas, but Betty was

680
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:29.000
in Wiley. She spent a lot
of time on the road in her station

681
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:36.199
wagon, but never complained. When
Candy knocked on Betty's door around ten am,

682
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.199
she thought Betty looked irritated when she
opened it, and she probably was.

683
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:45.159
Candy was two hours early and her
eleven month old daughter Bethany had just

684
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:50.199
gone down for her mid morning nap. Betty had a cup of coffee in

685
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:52.920
her hand and was about to take
a few minutes to herself and watch the

686
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:59.280
Phil Donahue show. Also, Alan
was gone, which Betty hated, and

687
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:02.760
the night before or Betty had started
wondering if she was pregnant again. She

688
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:07.960
felt all the sogns were there,
so Betty wasn't in the best mood,

689
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:14.159
but she offered coffee to Candy,
who politely declined. Candy was friendly enough

690
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:16.960
for the both of them. They
chatted about everything, and she even asked

691
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:23.039
to meet the Gore's new dog.
Everything was normal, Finally, Candy mentioned

692
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:28.440
that she needed to get going,
and then Betty explained that Alyssa didn't like

693
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.239
putting her face underwater during her swim
lessons. She gave Candy the peppermints that

694
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:38.920
she used to reward Alyssa for submerging
her whole body. Starting from here onward,

695
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:44.039
the version of events I'm about to
tell you comes straight from Candy's court

696
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:50.880
testimony, as reported by many local
newspapers and Texas Monthly. Nobody knows exactly

697
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.440
what happened to Betty. Nobody but
Candy Montgomery, and this is what she

698
00:57:54.519 --> 00:58:00.280
said happened to Betty on June thirteenth, nineteen eighty. According to Candy,

699
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:05.239
Betty said, out of the blue, are you having an affair with Alan,

700
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:08.719
to which Candy said, no,
of course not. And then Betty

701
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:14.400
followed up with a different question,
But you did, didn't you. At

702
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.639
this Candy admitted she had, but
it was a long time ago, she

703
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.000
promised. Betty told Candy to hold
on for a moment, and she left

704
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:27.440
the room. When she reappeared,
she was holding a three foot axe in

705
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:31.159
her hand. She wasn't wielding it, just holding it loosely in both hands

706
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:37.079
with the blade pointed toward the floor. Betty told Candy, well, don't

707
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:43.159
see him again. Candy could tell
the situation was dire, even though Betty's

708
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:47.039
tone was subdued, and Candy said
that under the circumstances, she would just

709
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.199
bring the Lissa straight home from Bobble
school. But Betty said, no,

710
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.679
keep Alissa overnight. She wanted Candy
to return Alissa the next day. I

711
00:58:55.719 --> 00:59:00.679
guess when Alan would be home,
because she never wanted to see Candy again.

712
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:06.360
Then Betty put the axe down.
She went to grab Alyssa's towel and

713
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.840
told Candy to get a Lissa's swimsuit
off of the washer. Betty also gave

714
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:15.400
Candy the peppermints that Alyssa liked.
Then Candy put the swimsuit, towel and

715
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:21.360
candies in her handbag. She said
that Betty looked so sad that she put

716
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.960
her hand on her arm and said, oh Betty, I'm so sorry.

717
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:30.079
And at that Candy said, Betty
lost it. She shoved Candy into the

718
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:36.280
laundry room, grabbed the axe and
rushed her. Betty screamed, you can't

719
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:38.800
have him, over and over again. I'm going to have a baby,

720
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:44.320
and you can't have him this time, she cried. Candy put her hands

721
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.880
on the axe handle as Betty approached, denying that she wanted alan. For

722
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:52.159
a long time, the two women
held onto the axe, waiting for the

723
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:57.239
other's shoe to drop. Would the
situation de escalate or was someone about to

724
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:01.920
get hurt. Finally, Betty jerked
the axe. Candy held on but started

725
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:07.360
pleading. She said, Betty,
don't do this, please stop, and

726
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.440
Betty, according to Candy, responded, I've got to kill you. They

727
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:15.679
fought for control of the axe.
In the process, the flat part of

728
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:21.679
the blade hit Candy in the head. Then Candy saw Betty raise the axe

729
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:27.679
over her head. She was going
to strike Candy very very hard. At

730
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.199
this point, Candy screamed and jumped
out of the way as best she could,

731
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:34.199
but it was a small room,
so she couldn't go very far.

732
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.639
She knocked some of the knick knacks
off the cabinets in an effort to escape.

733
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:44.079
Betty swing missed and hit the linoleum, but the blade bounced and struck

734
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.079
Candy's foot. Candy grabbed the blade
of the axe while Betty jerked on the

735
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:52.639
handle. Betty moved her hands down
the handle toward the blade, trying to

736
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:58.400
get leverage. Then she leaned in
and bit Candy's hand, and that's when

737
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:02.199
Candy saw her opportunity. Betty was
off balance from leaning over so far,

738
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:08.400
so Candy shoved her with the axe
and Betty fell. Candy then struck Betty's

739
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:13.719
head with the axe. It was
a death blow, at least Candy thought

740
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:19.760
so, but miraculously Betty wasn't dead
yet. She got up and grabbed the

741
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:24.079
axe to go after Candy again.
Candy once again grabbed the axe by the

742
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:30.119
handle and the two women did the
same four hands on the axe dance again.

743
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:36.039
It was now a struggle to the
death for Betty. Candy tried to

744
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:38.119
get out of the laundry room,
but Betty was able to stop her and

745
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:43.280
lock the door. Candy said she
slipped and fell due to all the blood,

746
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.400
but Betty, who had lost all
that blood, didn't have the strength

747
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:52.719
to raise the axe anymore. Candy
attacked Betty's leg and Betty fell practically on

748
01:01:52.760 --> 01:02:00.119
top of Candy. Now they fought
over the axe while sitting next. He

749
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.119
gave up the axe and ran for
the door, but it wouldn't open because

750
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:07.079
Betty had locked it. She turned
toward Betty, who was wielding the axe,

751
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:09.480
and said, Betty, don't please
let me go. I don't want

752
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:16.239
him. I don't want him.
Betty responded by saying sh and placing one

753
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:22.239
finger over her mouth, and according
to Candy's defense team at trial, this

754
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:28.960
triggered a response in Candy. It
was just like when Candy's own mother had

755
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.559
shushed her when she was in immense
pain as a child, and it caused

756
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.559
Candy to snap. She grabbed the
axe from Betty, knocked her down,

757
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:42.400
and hit her over and over again
with the axe. Forty one wax.

758
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:49.039
Betty Gore was obliterated. After Candy
killed Betty, she went to great links

759
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.679
to hide it. First, she
tried to shower with her clothes on in

760
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.559
the Gore home, but when that
wasn't effective, she left for her own

761
01:02:55.559 --> 01:03:01.079
house. Once there, she showed, houred, and changed clothes. She

762
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:06.039
washed and dried the same shirt and
found some jeans that were the same color

763
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.400
as she had been wearing so no
one would notice. She found some tennis

764
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:13.840
shoes to cover up the wound on
her toe and keep the bandage tight.

765
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.199
The wound on her head was harder, the bandage wouldn't stay because of her

766
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:22.519
hairdo She just kept dabbing the blood
when she thought about it and her head.

767
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:27.800
She had already concocted a story about
cutting her toe on a broken storm

768
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:32.280
door. And then she picked up
her children and Alyssa from church. She

769
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:37.159
spoke with her friend Barbara Green,
and then she took the kids to see

770
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:44.000
the Empire strikes back like nothing had
ever happened. I'm going to pause now

771
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:52.719
for a final commercial break. The
next day, everyone knew that Betty Gore

772
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:58.880
had been horrifically murdered. Candy did
yardwork. She trimmed her hedges and shrubs.

773
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.280
Then she used those same garden shears
to cut up the sandals she had

774
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:08.400
worn while killing Betty. She threw
the shoe pieces away in the outdoor garbage

775
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:12.760
can. Around this time, Candy
spoke to her friend Barbara Green on the

776
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.840
phone. Barbara was shocked to hear
that Candy had visited Betty so close to

777
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:21.320
the time when someone had murdered her. Barbara later told the court, I

778
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:26.239
remember telling her how glad I was
that she was not hurt, that if

779
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.960
she had been there when it happened, she might have been hurt too.

780
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.320
When Candy was arrested on June twenty
six, people couldn't believe it. It

781
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:41.880
seemed like poor innocent Candy had been
mistakenly nabbed based on some unrelated fingerprints while

782
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:45.719
the real murderer was running free.
The church helped her raise the money to

783
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:51.039
cover the hundred thousand dollar bond.
People from the Wily community sent her greeting

784
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:56.559
cards and well wishes, letting Candy
know they were on her side. Her

785
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.639
church reverend said that she would be
guilty of what they say. She is

786
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:04.719
is incomprehensible. She's not capable of
committing murder. She's a very creative,

787
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:13.079
very talented, very highly intelligent person. And Candy's husband, Pat, also

788
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:17.320
expressed his support for his wife.
But less than a week later, people

789
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:21.960
started having doubts about Candy's innocence.
And that's because Alan told the police about

790
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:28.039
his affair with Candy, and the
newspapers, as newspapers do, caught wind

791
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:32.159
of it. Candy and Alan's church
congregation was stunned to learn of the affair.

792
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.880
Even though it had ended, very
few people even knew it had happened.

793
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:45.719
Candy's husband, Pat knew last spring
he had been looking for his and

794
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:49.800
Candy's old love letters. In the
process, he found a love letter to

795
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:55.840
Candy from someone other than him.
It was a goodbye letter from Alan Gore,

796
01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:01.079
finalizing the end of his affair with
Candy. But his wife was going

797
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:06.239
on trial for her life and he
was going to support her. Candy hired

798
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:11.840
a personal injury lawyer if she knew
from church, named Don Crowder. He

799
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.280
told her she needed an experienced criminal
defense attorney, but she wanted him.

800
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.760
She knew him and felt comfortable,
so he hired a criminal lawyer to help

801
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:25.880
him with the case and sit second
chair. Don Crowder was going to trot

802
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:29.719
an Axe murder case as his first
criminal case in a court of law.

803
01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:35.159
It seemed crazy. Candy's trial began
on Monday, October twentieth, nineteen eighty.

804
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:42.280
It was a media circus. Over
two hundred people packed the courtroom.

805
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:48.320
The trial would only last eight sensational
days. For weeks, Candy's lawyers had

806
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:53.199
been hinting that she was going to
plead guilty, so the courtroom was stunned

807
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:59.000
when Candy started off by pleading self
defense. Now her testimony was tantamount to

808
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:03.039
the case, and we know defendants
rarely take the stand. This was a

809
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:09.199
huge gamble. The prosecution had a
hint of what was to come because they

810
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:13.960
knew Candy had passed a polygraph when
she told her story, but they still

811
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:18.519
thought self defense was outrageous and impossible
as a defense in this brutal murder.

812
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:24.440
And when Candy got to the witness
stand, she didn't do well. She

813
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:30.360
came across clipped and cool, according
to Texas Monthly, not personable, kind

814
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.239
or friendly, not even shy,
which probably would have been better in the

815
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:39.199
eyes of the jury, But Texas
Monthly was not on that jury, and

816
01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:45.199
newspapers don't always read a courtroom right. Candy's lawyer, Don Crowder, asked

817
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:49.360
Candy's softball questions about her kids,
her family, her community, her church,

818
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:56.320
anything and everything to humanize Candy,
but Candy was not cooperating. She

819
01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:01.559
gave what Texas Monthly described as short, functional answer. She sounded like a

820
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:08.480
stuffy schoolmarm over enunciating her sentences and
banishing all emotion from her voice, they

821
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:14.119
wrote. Then Candy was given the
chance to tell her story, the version

822
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:17.039
of the murder that I already told
you. As Candy told the story,

823
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:23.960
she remained emotionless, with a few
straight tears. Following Candy's testimony about the

824
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:29.319
murder, her lawyer Don Crowder decided
to try a tactic. Candy wasn't given

825
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:33.159
him much to work with, so
he had nothing to lose. He asked

826
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:36.239
her, when you went over there, did you mean to kill her with

827
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:43.520
that axe? And Candy responded no. But then Crowder became loud and urgent.

828
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:46.520
He said, but you did kill
her with that axe, didn't you.

829
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:53.000
Then he grabbed the axe from the
evidence table and put it in front

830
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:58.119
of Candy's face. He said,
this ax right here. You killed her

831
01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:01.359
with this axe right here. Didn't
you killed her with this axe right here?

832
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:06.119
Didn't you? This is when Candy
jumped up from her chair, screamed,

833
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:12.000
and burst into tears. It was
the most emotion anyone had seen out

834
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.960
of her during the entire court proceedings, and it visibly affected the jury.

835
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:21.600
One woman wiped her tears. The
state argued that Candy didn't kill Betty in

836
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:27.039
self defense because of the sheer number
of wounds she inflicted. It was far

837
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:30.159
more damage or injury than is needed
to take the life of that person,

838
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:39.159
so said an expert from the Institute
of Forensic Sciences in Dallas. In response

839
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:43.840
to this argument, Candy's defense team
elaborated on the childhood trauma we touched on

840
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:47.760
earlier. Before the trial, her
lawyers had taken her to a hypnotist.

841
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:54.359
He was actually a psychiatrist named Fred
Fazon who used hypnotism on his patients,

842
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:59.920
and based on three sessions, they
were able to determine the following Candy Respon

843
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.119
wanted to Betty's attack out of trauma. She had acted in pure, uncontrollable

844
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:09.239
rage. She hadn't even known what
she was doing. It was a moment

845
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:13.800
of fight or flight that had turned
into a fight due to that experience with

846
01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:20.079
her mother, saying sh, just
like Betty had said, sh Now,

847
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:25.239
whether you believe this or not is
up to you personally. I've never seen

848
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:29.359
hypnotism, never tried it myself,
or even seen a silly magic show.

849
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.399
I know that regression therapy is supposed
to have the same results as well,

850
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:38.119
but I have no idea if it
worked, other than Don Crowder saying it

851
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:42.880
did in fact work, as well
as the psychiatrist testifying to it at trial.

852
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:48.680
Crowder also used a tactic many found
distasteful but it was effective. He

853
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:54.880
blamed the victim. He put Betty
Gore on trial. Candy had had many

854
01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:59.600
character witnesses who talked about what a
wonderful mother she was, how friendly an

855
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:04.960
outgoing she was, how helpful to
anyone and everyone. By contrast, Betty

856
01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:11.960
was portrayed as sullen, unhappy,
and standoffish. Even her pastor, who

857
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:16.880
had eulogized her, testified that she
was a difficult woman. If Candy's defense

858
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:21.079
was that Betty started the fight,
I guess it made sense to explain why

859
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:26.039
she started it, how she was
kind of an angry person to begin with.

860
01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:30.039
And Candy might have come off as
robotic in her direct testimony, but

861
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:35.680
she held up well under cross examination. She became more detailed and never faltered

862
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:40.960
with her answers. When asked how
she could walk out of the house and

863
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.279
leave that baby alone, she explained
that she was in shock. She wasn't

864
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:47.680
thinking about the baby, she was
putting one foot in front of the other

865
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:53.199
and trying to act normal. Of
all the names, Candy was called,

866
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:59.800
murderer, adulteress, or leaving baby
Bethany alone was the cherry on top.

867
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:04.640
She did later care very much.
In the book Evidence of Love, pat

868
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:09.239
said she called him that afternoon,
asking where Alan Gore was that day,

869
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:14.439
worried about how long it would be
before he got home. She also offered

870
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:17.359
to go over and check on Betty
when Alan was calling around to everyone worried.

871
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:23.560
You could argue that she wanted to
get over there and possibly be able

872
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:28.520
to explain any fingerprints of hers,
but you could also argue that she was

873
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.399
worried about Bethany. As soon as
Alan called with the news about Betty,

874
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:36.600
she asked about Bethany to make sure
she was okay. I think she probably

875
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:42.479
couldn't explain herself like this, because
the whole point of the prosecution was that

876
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:45.960
she lied and carried on like she
didn't do it, but now insisted it

877
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.119
with self defense. It probably would
have been better had she called the police

878
01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:53.880
at the time, but her story
was she was in shock, she was

879
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:58.439
traumatized, and I think she probably
was, But I do think she was

880
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:04.239
worried about that baby. She wasn't
a monster. On Wednesday, October twenty

881
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:09.399
ninth, the jury went to deliberate, and after three hours of deliberation,

882
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:14.079
the call came that they were back. Both sides would have been scared about

883
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.439
that short amount of Tom it's always
uneasy when a jury comes back quickly.

884
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:24.279
The judge read the verdict. Candy
Montgomery was found not guilty. She was

885
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:28.800
acquitted of all charges. Had Candy
been found guilty, she could have been

886
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:34.199
sentenced up to ninety nine years in
prison. The courtroom was flabbergasted onlookers chanted

887
01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:41.000
murderer, murderer. One wiley resident
said, everybody is in shock. I

888
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:45.000
think they forgot about Betty Gore.
There are thieves who still and get sent

889
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:49.000
to jail for less than she has
done. Betty's brother in law publicly said,

890
01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:53.000
I don't think justice was served in
the least bit. I think it

891
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:58.079
was murder. And Bob Pomeroy,
Betty's father and a godfearing man, said,

892
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:00.920
as far as I am concerned,
justice will be done. Eventually,

893
01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:05.560
Candy left the courtroom and about a
week later, she and her family moved

894
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:11.680
out of Texas. Don Crowder rode
the wave of publicity he had earned getting

895
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.119
his client off with self defense and
an axe murder. He ran for governor

896
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:19.399
of Texas in nineteen eighty six,
but he took his own life in nineteen

897
01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:26.279
ninety eight. After all of this, Candy and Pat remained married. Pat

898
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:31.079
accepted a teaching position with Georgia Tech
University immediately following the trial, but the

899
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:38.199
Montgomery marriage ultimately did not survive.
They divorced four years later. Pat still

900
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:44.159
works in defense technologies in Georgia.
Candy now goes by Candy Wheeler, her

901
01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:48.279
maiden name. She has worked as
a mental health therapist for teens and adults.

902
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:55.359
In a twentieth anniversary retrospective in two
thousand, Candy refused to speak to

903
01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:59.800
the Dallas Morning News reporters. She
said, I'm telling you in big bold

904
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:05.640
letters, I'm not interested. Alan
Gore remarried three months after Betty's murder to

905
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:11.119
a woman named Elaine, who was
the church organist. That marriage ended in

906
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:15.079
divorce. He lost a custody battle
with Betty's parents, so Elyssa and Bethany

907
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.880
were raised by their maternal grandparents in
Norwich, Kansas. Today, according to

908
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:26.359
Facebook, Alan lives in Sarasota,
Florida, and I imagine is still an

909
01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:32.279
asshole. Can you believe how fast
he remarried. Alyssa is exactly my age,

910
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:39.039
so both girls are now women in
their forties. They spoke out during

911
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:43.520
the twenty year anniversary retrospective, but
it was mostly about the drama with their

912
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:47.800
father and stepmother. Alyssa, who
goes by Lisa, barely remembered her mother,

913
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:53.479
and Bethany, of course, didn't
remember her at all. Even though

914
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:57.199
they didn't remember much, they did
say they felt Candy wasn't telling the whole

915
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:01.720
story and wished they knew the truth. I cannot imagine growing up and having

916
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:06.800
to live with a woman who murdered
your mother going free. I hope that

917
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:12.000
both women have gotten help and moved
on with their lives, but losing a

918
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:15.680
parent, especially so violently, as
a whole, you can never feel.

919
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:21.479
Since nineteen eighty, there have been
multiple remakes of Candy and Betty's case in

920
01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:27.600
the media. It inspired a nineteen
ninety CBS made for TV movie called A

921
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:31.399
Killing in a Small Town and a
non fiction book called Evidence of Love.

922
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:38.920
The two most well known adaptations right
now are Elizabeth Olsen's Max show called Love

923
01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:44.159
and Death and Jessica Bill's Hulu show
called Candy. I have watched all of

924
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:46.800
them, and, of course time
permitting, soon Andrea and I are going

925
01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:53.239
to discuss these shows for Patreon.
As for Candy Montgomery and the truth of

926
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:56.840
what happened in the laundry room on
a hot day in June of nineteen eighty.

927
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.039
I'm going to take a lot of
ship for this, but I believe

928
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:08.279
her. Hear me out because nothing
else makes sense. KNDy told people she

929
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:12.600
was going to Betty's house to get
Lyssa's swimsuit. She parked her station wagon

930
01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:15.319
right in front of the house.
It was clearly a crime of passion.

931
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:19.760
There was no planning. She didn't
bring a gun and her purse. The

932
01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:25.800
axe came from the Gores garage,
and Candy was no longer involved with Alan.

933
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:30.119
It is crazy to me that she
could just carry on taking care of

934
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:34.600
Alyssa and even babysitting Bethany after the
affair. But she did. She was

935
01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:41.960
a woman who was capable of compartmentalizing
her entire life. Call me crazy,

936
01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:45.920
but I do believe her version of
events with one problem. I have said

937
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:51.439
before that intent can be formed within
seconds. Forty one wax with an axe

938
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:57.720
does not seem like self defense,
but her attorneys argued that she snapped,

939
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:03.439
and clearly the jury believed it.
Psychiatrist Fred face On, the hypnotist,

940
01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:10.000
testified at the trial and claimed that
Candy had a dissociative reaction that led her

941
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:15.640
to chop at Betty repeatedly. Don
Crowder also argued that the violent death was

942
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:20.680
also protected under Texas's stand your Ground
law, which permits the use of deadly

943
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:27.199
force if necessary to prevent a violent
crime. And Candy said that Betty attacked

944
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.760
her with the axe, she had
to defend herself. And it was a

945
01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:34.479
jury of nine women and three men. I think that could have helped.

946
01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:39.840
Have you ever picked up an axe, much less a three foot axe,

947
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:45.119
which was the murder weapon. They
are so heavy, I'm not strong enough

948
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:47.840
to raise one for even one chop. And I'm willing to bet those women

949
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:51.800
believed he'd of passion because they know
what it's like to try and pick up

950
01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:58.760
an axe. That Candy was already
wounded twice and was terrified then enraged that

951
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:03.279
Betty attacked her. I also think
this is one of those cases where the

952
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:09.000
prosecutions screwed up by not giving the
jury more options. They might have said

953
01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:13.680
guilty for manslaughter or some other lesser
offense, but not first degree murderer.

954
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:17.720
They didn't believe that Candy went there
to murder Betty, and they did believe

955
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:23.079
that the gruesome forty one wax were
born of rage after Betty attacked Candy.

956
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:28.520
Maybe they would have acquitted her either
way, but we will never know,

957
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:32.079
and it's really important to note that
we don't know Betty Gore's thought of the

958
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:35.920
story. We don't know why she
went and grabbed that axe other than what

959
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:42.680
Candy said. Candy said Betty thought
she was pregnant. If she found out

960
01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:47.079
about the affair and felt so vulnerable, maybe she did attack for the record.

961
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:54.880
An autopsy showed she was not actually
pregnant. Whatever really happened between the

962
01:19:54.920 --> 01:20:00.439
two women resulted in a death match
for an extremely heavy axe, and Kendy

963
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:05.119
Montgomery was the winner. But she
won a lifetime of whispers and people pointing,

964
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:11.199
even if she changed her name and
moved, but it was a life

965
01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:18.000
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966
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