Sept. 17, 2025
Unleashing Your Voice with Denise Renee: From Fear to Finished with Denise Renee
Send us a text Feeling paralyzed by headlines about AI replacing humans or mass layoffs? Denise Renee offers a powerful antidote: collaboration. The "Business Book Bestie" returns to the Ready Set Collaborate podcast to share how leaning into community can transform your career and creative pursuits. Drawing from her extensive writing experience dating back to 1999, Denise reveals why headlines don't determine your future and how tapping into your network creates opportunities even in challe...
Feeling paralyzed by headlines about AI replacing humans or mass layoffs? Denise Renee offers a powerful antidote: collaboration. The "Business Book Bestie" returns to the Ready Set Collaborate podcast to share how leaning into community can transform your career and creative pursuits.
Drawing from her extensive writing experience dating back to 1999, Denise reveals why headlines don't determine your future and how tapping into your network creates opportunities even in challenging times. She emphasizes that despite algorithms and technology, success still comes down to connecting with other humans – starting with those already in your community.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Denise discusses why books remain uniquely powerful in our digital age. Unlike fleeting social media content, books provide an immersive experience where readers give you their full attention. For aspiring authors held back by fear, she offers practical advice: "Borrow somebody else's writing process" and start with what you know.
Denise candidly shares her own journey to publishing "Write Your Book: 10 Mindset Hacks to Move You from Fear to Finished," admitting that despite her English degree and teaching background, fear delayed her for years. Her most profound insight? "Fear doesn't go away – it actually gets louder when you take steps toward your goals." The only way through is through, but collaboration makes the journey less daunting.
Whether you're considering writing a book, starting a podcast, or simply putting yourself out there professionally, this episode provides the encouragement and practical steps to move from fear to finished. Connect with Denise at writingwithdeniserenee.com to learn how she supports authors in sharing their stories with the world.
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00:00 - Welcome and Introduction
03:27 - Why Collaboration Matters Now
08:42 - Writing Journey and Background
14:22 - The Power of Books in 2025
20:07 - Overcoming Fear and Taking Action
26:00 - Building Confidence and Finding Support
31:14 - Book Details and Closing Thoughts
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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Ready Set Collaborate podcast with Wanda Pearson, where collaboration is the key to success.
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It's always been my thing collaboration is the key to success.
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I'm your host, wanda Pearson, and today I'm thrilled to welcome my special guest, Denise Renee.
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Denise Renee is a journalist, author, media professional speaker.
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I'm putting all those in there for you.
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Denise Renee is a journalist, author, media professional speaker.
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I'm putting all those in there for you, denise Renee, she's passionate about creating impact through media, which is what she does.
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You do YouTube, right.
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Yes, we do yes yeah, through media.
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In this episode we're diving to her journey, the lessons she's learned along the way, and how collaboration has been a powerful force in her career and life.
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Get ready for an inspiring and authentic conversation that will empower you to take bold steps forward.
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So welcome Denise Renee.
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And we say Denise, not just Denise, because I made a mistake and said Denise, it's Denise Renee.
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Right, it is Denise Renee, it's a double first name.
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You got it right, thank you so much.
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Yeah, so why do you?
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When people say Denise, what do you say?
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Oh, no, no, do you correct them?
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No, it's Denise Renee.
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I give.
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It depends on who they are, it depends on how long they've known me, because I really haven't been insistent about Denise Renee until like maybe the last 10 years or so.
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So like if, if you know me from New York, I leave you alone, but if you know me from Georgia over the last 10 years or so, I get in.
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I do get a little insistent and I'll, you know, introduce myself as Denise Renee and I'll give people about three times, and then about that third time I'm like well, and then about the third time I'm like well, actually, yeah, you correct them.
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Actually, my name is Denise Renee.
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So well, I'm so glad you're here with me again, because I had Denise Renee on my podcast before.
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Yes, we were talking about this.
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Yeah, it was when I first started doing my podcast.
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So welcome back.
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And it will be two years, denise Renee, in November.
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I can't believe it.
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I'm like where did that time go?
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I know, I know.
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And what was funny was that one of our counterparts?
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she asked, she said well, I want to introduce you to Denise Renee.
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I'm like her name sounds familiar.
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She said she's going to be on your podcast and I was like yeah, hey, wanda, how you doing today.
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I was like wait, I didn't look at the last name.
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I'm like child, I know Wanda, ms Wanda.
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Pearson, absolutely, that's right.
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We've already talked to each other.
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But thank you for coming on for the second time because you got a new book out too.
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I do.
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Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
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Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
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So let me read your bio here.
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So, oh, okay.
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So, known as the business book bestie, denise Renee is a book writing coach, manuscript editor and author.
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Her extensive writing experiences date back to 1999.
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Mom to a teenage boy, denise Renee's hobbies include doing her own salon quality nail extensions Ooh, look at that girl, I need to have you come do mine.
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I pay a lot of money for mine Adult coloring and making YouTube videos for both business and fun.
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So, and that's nice, short and sweet, but very powerful.
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But thank you so much for coming on the podcast against Denise Renee.
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I truly appreciate it.
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So let's dive into some of these questions that I have here.
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The first one is why is collaboration the key to success in 2025 and beyond for content creators, business owners and employees?
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Child.
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Have you seen the news?
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Have you heard the headlines?
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If you were, I wrote an article on LinkedIn last week and I forgot the exact title, but it basically said something to the effect why you can't?
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Oh, lord, jesus, okay, no, I'm going to look it up because I don't want to screw it up.
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But it's literally about how, if you listen to the headlines, your head is going to spin and you know it might just spin all the way off.
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You don't want to do that, but the headline here and I'm trying to get to it quickly Okay, you just don't want to cooperate.
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Okay, I understand it doesn't want to cooperate.
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Newsletters here we go.
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Okay.
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So the title of the article is labeled, laid off and left behind why headlines don't determine what's next for your career.
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So I literally said in the article that, if I listen to the headlines, I mean as a human, ai is threatening my livelihood, right.
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As a Gen X person, I'm not included in the workforce conversation.
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They talk about millennials, gen Z, even Gen Alpha, my son.
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I'm like OK, and they talk about boomers, but I'm like hello.
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Jen Alpha, my son.
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I'm like okay, and they talk about boomers, but I'm like hello, next, we've been here for at least 50 something years, if I listen, of course.
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Now the newest headline is that 300,000 plus Black women were ejected from the workforce since January of 2025.
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So when you listen to things like that, it sounds like, well, the world is just going to hell in a handbasket in flames.
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Right, there are no jobs.
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There's no place for you here as a Black woman, there's no place for you here as an aging individual in the workforce or in business, and if you listen to that, you will curl up into a ball and just be depressed all day long.
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But collaboration becomes so key and important and in the video that I crafted around, that was one of the key strategies is to collaborate, is to dig into your network, is to share what's going on in your personal life, in your business life, in your career life, whatever it is, whatever you're doing, because at the end of the day even though there's algorithms and things like that, but at the end of the day, you're trying to reach out to the person on the other side of your phone.
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Right, when you're putting out content and you're trying to present your business or you're trying to get your resume out to a recruiter on LinkedIn, you're trying to connect with another human, and the best place to start is with the humans that you're already in community with.
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So, sometimes it can be tough because we don't always have the closest relationships with this person, but not with that one.
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So start with the people that you do have a great relationship with in your family, on your job, past jobs, past clients.
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Dig into that.
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Tell people what you're up to now and what you're looking for.
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Will everybody be able to help or offer something?
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No, but at least they know, and when something comes across their path they think of you and like, oh, you know what she's looking for a job, oh, you know what he's looking for.
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These types of clients.
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That is how you get to grow.
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And then you let things like your social media presence amplify everything.
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But without community it's hard to get anything done.
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It really really is.
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Absolutely, and that's what we're talking about collaboration, collaboration to actually somebody to bring in, and that is so true.
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It's who you know, not what you know, and it's really getting into that.
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So I totally get it.
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So let's talk about a little bit about your background and what inspired you on your career path.
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Well, when I was a little girl, the only thing I thought of or saw myself doing was writing, which is really funny because my mom had the hardest time getting me to read when I was really, really young.
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But once I caught on, that was it, it was over.
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So I've always been, you know, just a big reader.
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And then I started writing my own, you know, short stories when I was like eight, nine years old, things like that, and throughout high school just writing.
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One of my degrees is in English.
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I did a master's in teaching and taught English at the high school level for a few years.
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So it's just been an evolution.
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Writing has just been with me for so long and I'm always taking, you know, some other kind of writing class learning, copywriting, learning, you know, mastering storytelling.
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I'm still, you know, I'm still always learning.
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So lately I've been digging into books about storytelling and business and like putting those two frameworks together.
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So it's just like how could I not?
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How could I not?
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And that is so true.
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So, writing the book?
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How can writing the book bring visibility to your career, business or side hustle in 2025 and beyond?
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You know, sometimes people are like, oh well, you know it's all about video, it's all about AI content, it's all about this.
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But you know what?
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The basics, the principles, never change, and what's really special about a book is that you get to bring a very solid and cohesive idea into the marketplace, as opposed to you know where with content, we're just trying to put these like one minute videos out every day, or you're.
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You know, there may be long form podcast conversations like this, but there's something very special about having someone's full attention off of the social platforms.
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They're not, you know, doing this when they're listening to your book on as an audio book, it's an immersive experience.
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Or if they're actually physically reading your book, it's an immersive experience.
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They get to hear your thoughts from beginning to end and you make a real impact.
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You know people still talk about how this particular book has changed their lives.
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Nothing else in history has changed people's lives like a book.
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And even if you say, oh, you know well, this podcast episode with such and such a person really changed my life, it's probably because it was a podcast episode with somebody who what has a book and they were talking about the principles in what?
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In their book.
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That is so true.
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So tell me this.
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So what holds people back most people back from writing a book of something that they dreamed of doing?
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Number one reason is fear, and this is something that I know intimately.
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So as long as I just I just sat here and told you I've been writing since I was a little girl.
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Right, I have an entire degree in it.
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Right, I used to teach, right, guess who just now is publishing her first book.
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Why?
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Because for me, a lot of times people are nervous about their writing skills.
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So for me, obviously, writing skill is not my issue, but writing is still very emotional.
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Even if you're writing nonfiction and you're just writing a self-help book, it's a lot to put yourself in the proverbial out there, right, people are going to love you, people are going to hate you, people are going to feel meh about you.
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And when we're putting ourselves out there, when we're putting our ideas out there, we want everybody, our ideas out there, we want everybody to love us, right, we want everybody to buy.
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But even though rationally we know that's not going to happen, it's still scary, right, and so, um, and there there are, you know, quite a number of steps to take to get a book done.
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Um, it doesn't have to be complicated, but you know it's, it's still, and it's like, at every step you have to keep reminding yourself and convincing yourself.
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This is why I'm doing it.
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And for me.
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I just had to get to the point where, okay, I can't worry about all the people who are not going to like it or whatever it is.
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I have to really be thinking about the people that I'm intended to help.
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And that is the thing that got me personally over myself, because I was like, wow, all these people are always talking to me about I want to write a book.
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I want to write a book, but I don't feel like I'm a writer.
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I want to write a book but I'm too busy.
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I want to write a book, but I feel like I'm too old or too young or I'm not enough of an expert.
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And I had actually wrote this book back in 2019.
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I wrote the first draft back in 2019.
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I did a round of revisions in 2020 and then I just never published it.
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And when I finally sat down and was like, oh my gosh, all of these people that you know, in this time, in these last couple of years, if I had my book, they could have been helped.
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Right, whether or not they became a client of mine or not doesn't even matter.
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There are people that I could have been helping with my book and I I wasn't where I should have been.
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My book wasn't where it should have been, and so now it's time to correct that.
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So that's what got me moving, and my book is actually titled write your Book and the subtitle is 10 Mindset Hacks to Move you from Fear to Finish.
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And, like I said, this is the number one thing that, as a I started my business as a ghostwriter, but I shifted it into writing coaching, but it's the number one thing that I hear from people.
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It's like I want to write a book, but and usually whatever they fill in the blanket with, there's fear behind that and you write about that because that was with me.
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I'm never writing a book.
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I'm never writing a book, but I got this call from one of my friends that wanted God told me to call you.
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Well, I'm not going to disobey God.
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So what did he say?
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And that was my first collaboration book.
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So, and and and the thing about it is the fear of what people are going to think about you, what you know, and and I, I had to deep, deep, deep inside of the book that I wrote, you know God's Grace, through the Fire, from Struggle to Triumph.
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But at the same time, I was told by my editor.
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Then you got to get this book out, just like what you're doing.
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You got to get this book out because you can help people.
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And ever since I wrote it, people said the same I want to write a book.
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How do I write a book?
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What do I need to do?
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So it's just taking that first step, and I love your shirt that says rise and write.
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That is so true, so true.
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So how can people who don't feel like writers get started simply and finish writing their books?
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I think that one of the things that holds people back is not being a writer Like that's.
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There's a very common concern and they're like well, I don't even know where to start, how to get started.
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So I recommend borrow somebody else's writing process.
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So I have a four step process that I take people through all the time and like OK, if you think about these certain things, answer these certain questions for yourself and follow these particular steps, here's your first draft.
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Like you're on your way to completing your first draft.
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So I say borrow somebody else's writing process.
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If you don't know whose process to borrow, I invite you to borrow mine.
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Go to writingwithdenisevenetcom.
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Forward slash four steps.
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I have a free version and then a low cost version where you can really dive in and start thinking about what to do to get yourself moving on writing your book.
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I really thought your book was out, denise Renee.
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I did not know you was not out.
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We were talking last year and I thought you did.
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But I know you're a coach in helping people to you know to write their books so that, and you're a ghostwriter so you know all the ins and outs of what you need to do.
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So congratulations on getting your first book out and helping people, because people do need help.
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A lot of people need to tell a story.
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You just don't know who needs to hear that story, who needs to hear what you have to write.
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So that makes a big difference.
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So what?
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was the pivotal moment that helped shape you who you are today.
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Oh, I'm a Sally guy.
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I think the modern, the modern evolution of where I am today has just been.
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You know, having a child really shapes you.
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You know, it's definitely a definitely something that shapes you and you start thinking differently, you start making decisions differently and, yeah, I would say that I make a lot of decisions based on how I want to be an example for my son.
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And he's a teenage son, right?
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I got six grandchildren, so I know from five to 20.
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So my grandson just called me today he's 20 to tell me what's going on.
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But you know, the good thing about it is the communication that you have with them and that really makes a big difference.
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I mean, like I have two daughters, two married daughters and I always taught them be a leader, not a follower.
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So I'm teaching the same thing with our grandchildren Don't be a follower, be a leader.
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So that makes a big difference.
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But I can imagine you with a boy.
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It must be challenging.
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So I got two grandsons.
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I know it's challenging.
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I'll just say it's special.
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I know that's right.
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So how did you first realize the power of storytelling, media and your craft in impacting others?
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As a kid the thing that I wanted to do I I didn't know it at that age, but as I got a little older and I understood what it was, um, I was like I want to do this for and my mother cooperates this.
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But as a kid growing up in the 70s, like your only form of entertainment really was tv and for some reason, even as a baby before before I could talk I was always captivated with commercials.
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The TV show could be playing whatever, I'm playing whatever, but the commercials will come on and I'll add my attention.
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I mean I could still recite like a whole lot of commercials from back in the day.
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I can't do it so much now because I don't watch.
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I have, man, I cut the cable like 10, 15 years ago, so you know I don't watch commercials and TV in that way anymore.
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But I was really attracted to just the power of just short little, because a commercial really is well, back in the day a commercial really was just like a short little story that got your attention.
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It was either telling you something funny, something relatable, something sad.
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It really got to the core of your emotions very quickly.
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And then it made this powerful association with Charmin tissue or life cereal.
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He likes it.
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Hey, mikey.
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Right.
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Give it to Mikey, he'll like it.
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Let him try it.
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See, see.
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So these things are just like really, really memorable, and I just, you know, when I was younger and I finally understood what advertising was like, I want to be an advertiser.
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I want to.
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You know, that's what I want.
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I didn't wind up going that route, but I did later on, wind up learning copywriting, which is basically adjacent to the advertising world.
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So, yeah, that's something that has shaped me from very early on.
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That's awesome.
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And you're right.
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When you look at commercial, you see what's going on around you.
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I remember my first.
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Well, I was a social worker and I started with the social worker.
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Then and after here I was like maybe eight, nine years old I said I want to be a social worker, not knowing, I just wanted to help people.
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And actually that's what I ended up doing.
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That's what God helped me end up doing, even though being in corporate for 36 years.
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But it's something that we look at when we're younger to say I want to be just like them.
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You know, I want to be, you know, and the fantasizing of that.
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But you know, it's funny how you end up doing what you say you want to be.
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It's hilarious.
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God has a plan for all of us, so we're having those plans every day.
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