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Welcome to Ready Set Collaborate with Wanda Pearson.
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This is where ideas spark, connections grow, and collaborations fuse success.
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Tune in for inspiring stories, expert insights, and game-changing conversations.
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Let's build, connect, and thrive together.
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Remember, collaboration is the key to success.
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Welcome, welcome to the Ready Said Collaborate Podcast with Wanda Pearson, where collaboration is the key to success.
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Today's guest is someone whose story beautifully intertwined healing, growth, and transformation.
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I'm honored to introduce Kaliche Sherey.
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Did I say it right, Kaliche?
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Kaleche.
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Kaleise Shere.
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Kaliche Shere.
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Beautiful name, though.
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The visionary owner of Dexa Farm Family Gardens, Incorporated.
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Khice's journey is one of remarkable courage.
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Growing up in a restrictive cult, she found freedom as peace through the simple yet powerful act of gardening.
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What began as an escape from pain became her pathway to healing.
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And eventually blossomed into Dexa Family Gardens, where she now helps others reconnect with the earth, their purpose, and themselves.
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In addition to her green thumb, Khelsey is also a skilled cosmetologist who believes that true beauty begins with from within.
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I love that.
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And from the ground up.
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Oh, yeah, I love that.
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From within it.
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So get ready for an authentic and inspiring conversation about faith, resilience, and how nurturing plants can nurturing plants can teach us to nurture our own souls.
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Welcome, Caliche.
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I truly appreciate you coming on to the show.
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Say hello to the audience, and I'm gonna read your bio and then we're gonna jump into some questions.
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I am ready to go.
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Let's go, Wanda.
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Yes, yes.
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Let me tell you, I told a little bit about Cliche, but let me tell you a little bit more about her.
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She's the owner of Dexter Family Gardens Incorporated.
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She helps intro introverted women and children heal depression and childhood trauma, particularly those raised in the cult through gardening with no garden experience.
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As an introverted gardener and dedicated cosmetologist, she took personal development into her own hands to find answers to her own depression.
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Growing close to 80 different fruits, vegetables, herbs, and planting over eight fruit trees.
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Wow, she realized that life was seen and mirrored her journey through life.
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While companion planting, she began to understand that your environment and compatible companions are crucial for growth and multiplication, which is identical to our life.
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I love that, Kalicia.
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It's just my God.
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And she listen, listen, guys.
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She just told me she's on her 19th book.
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Is that what it is?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Yes, Miss One, the 19th.
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I am so blessed to be able to have met you in the Author All-Stars.
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It's just really a blessing to be able to intertwine.
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And the good thing about it, we both Scorpios.
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We both were born in November.
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So we know we were meant to be.
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God just put us together.
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So that is awesome.
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That is awesome.
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So no, welcome to the show.
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So let me ask you some questions.
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So your store for your story is so powerful.
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Can you share how gardening first became your safe space?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Gardening became my first safe space.
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After realizing the organization that I was raised in from nine years old, fast forward was 35 years.
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I realized that it was a cult.
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And it really caused me to be in a dark place because of their strict environment.
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I wasn't able to do a lot of things that normal teenagers and children could do because the cult's rigid, it was a rigid schedule.
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Like Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday Bible study, Monday was choir rehearsal.
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My mom, she was a top female minister there.
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So she definitely had a role there.
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And that role made, of course, I had to be in that particular circle.
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So I would say finding out nine years ago, that organization was indeed a cult, and it really messed with my mental state because I felt like I wasted all of my life.
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Everything was a no because I had to be at the cult.
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So anything, I couldn't do anything but be at the cult.
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So to find out that I spent 35 years in an organization, my teenagehood was snatched from me.
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My childhood was snatched from me.
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I was already in a dark space because of the abuse, because of how I was born into the world.
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And that just that that messed me up.
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So I was already, I already had issues with a broken spirit because of childhood abuse.
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But at nine years old, having to go into an organization, be there 35 years, and find out all this time I was in a cult.
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And it was a lie.
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So I literally had to find something to make me joyful.
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I could not.
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I was just laid down every day.
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I didn't want to get up out the bed.
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I didn't want to do anything.
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I didn't want to go anywhere.
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I just stayed in my room watching television, constantly replying my whole life in my head every day.
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What I couldn't do, all of the no's, all of the mistreatment, all you know, just for in an organization, and it was all a lie.
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Because they would scare you with you're gonna go to the lake of fire if you didn't do what they said.
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So for me, I was always in cooperation and obedient because I thought that was gonna get me a ticket in the kingdom with God.
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I was gonna get into heaven if I was obedient.
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So I was very obedient to their rules and regulations.
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And yeah, that that's and I was just looking for a way out and of my mental torment that I was doing to myself by replaying everything that was done to me, and I just felt like my life was wasted, and I had to find something to help me find joy.
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I didn't have any, and I and that was fear.
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That was fear, that was oh, yeah, that was big on that to be able to speak up.
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So I totally get it, I totally understand that.
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So what gave you the courage to redefine your life on your own terms?
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Back to the first question.
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The only thing that I could recall that really made me happy and joyful was being in gardening garden environments.
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I just love flowers, I love well-manicured yards, I love to be at farmers market, botanical gardens, anywhere there was nature and beauty.
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I it just drew me in a space to where I felt happy, I felt joyful, and that's what I wanted to.
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I started just going to places like that so I can get that feeling.
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And and then that feeling turned into me trying to create it in my own home, at my own home, in my own yard, something to make me get up out of that room, get up out of that space, and get out of my head and start doing something.
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So that's was answering the first question.
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That's what led me to the dirt.
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God led me to the dirt because I found peace and joy and solace in planting and growing.
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I'm sorry.
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Your next question, Miss Wanda.
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No, actually, it was good that you actually went from there.
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Because actually, I was gonna ask you what moment or explains planted the seed for Dex of Family Gardens.
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What was the moment?
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Yeah, yeah, the moment was so just going out there and finding joy and seeing the first seed that I planted sprout and grow into something.
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And I'm like, I literally get that.
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Like, you mean to tell me that little bitty tomato seed that I put in the ground?
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45 days later, there is a there's a tomato.
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And the feeling that I got from that, the feeling it was I was addicted to that feeling because it was a feeling of joy and peace and happiness, and I didn't have it.
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So I wanted to duplicate that feeling over and over again.
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So I started planting.
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I started planting just different stuff.
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I would just go out there, just start buying seeds, tons of seeds.
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I'm putting everything in the ground because I just want to, I want that same feeling that I got when I would watch this plant grow, something sprout, you know what I'm saying?
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Something come above the dirt, and then I needed to come and water it and take care of it.
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And then you mean to tell me 45 days later, 60 days later, here is a tomato that I can actually cook with.
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So that's what that's where Dexa came from because I began to constantly go out there and chase that feeling, chase that same feeling of seeing something grow and get to its full potential and me adding to it and helping it and nurturing it to get to that to that place.
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And I tell everybody when I woke up, I had a backyard full of food everywhere.
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Food was everywhere, all because I start seeing myself and everything I planted, and seeing myself and everything I planted and cared for it.
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I've I got that tomato, I got that butternut squash, I got that, you know that whatever, whatever you plant, that's what you're looking to get.
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You're looking for a harvest when you put a seed in the ground.
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Exactly.
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I love that.
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And that's why I was at you, how did you find the courage to redefine your own life on your own terms, not on anybody else's term, but in your own terms, to your garden.
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But when did that start?
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When did you start realizing that I can do this and I'm gonna do it for me, not for anybody else?
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When did that start?
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So I got heavy into companion planting, I would say.
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So with companion planting, that's when I understood that the seed needed to be in the right environment in order to grow because we're skipping a lot, but I didn't know anything about gardening, so I didn't know where these pests was coming from, these little creatures.
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The seedless was being attacked on every level, and I just didn't know what was going on because I didn't grow up around a garden farming anything, so I had to start researching what was going on.
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But companion planting, me trying to find friends that were compatible with the seeds and that would help them to grow and ward off pests and draw the beneficial pests.
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I needed some pollinators to come and help, I needed all this stuff, but I began to understand that they needed to be in a certain environment around compatible companions.
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And I was like, wait a minute.
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It caused me to look at my space, it caused me to look at the people that I will was around, it caused me to look at the people that I had been around the majority of my life.
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And I'm like, whoa, that's why my growth is stunned.
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That's why there is no multiplication or growth for me because I am around toxic people that are either they had characteristics of harmful pests.
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And right then and there I found something called a boundary, and I began to set boundaries.
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I had never heard of boundaries before, but because I started to understand who was playing the role of a weed, who was playing the role of an aphid, Japanese beetles, all of these what I'm saying, these are harmful pests that's coming to attack that garden to keep that seedling from growing.
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And I'm like, so people that I know literally has this, they have the same characteristics of these harmful pets.
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So this seedling is me.
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I see such and such you the beetle.
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So I was like, oh, let me just start to pull back and yeah, and just I had to set some boundaries.
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I had to stay away from some people, I had to cut off some relationships, which is pruning.
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That's a garden terminology.
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So that's when I began to have a safe space because I understood who was who for the first time, and I had to create boundaries because you got to do it in the garden too.
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You gotta have protection.
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Absolutely.
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I love that.
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I love the terminology that you put there.
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I'm actually looking at your book, Companion Gardening for the Soul.
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Grow together, heal deeply, and bloom anyway.
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Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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That's it.
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And it's so true because how you brought that into people from your garden, and you realizing God was all part of that, like we were just talking about.
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You got to go through to understand why you're going through.
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Now, what would you say?
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How'd you say that?
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How'd you say it for go through the understanding to get through which one you got to go through to understand?
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Grow through what you go through.
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But when I say God was all in those details, so when I say God, well, it was between me, girl.
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This it saved my life, me understanding the life of a seed.
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I saw every aspect of my life and with his grace and his mercy just showing me what went on, why it went on, who was who, why everything is in the seed, and I tell every everybody everything you need to grow is already in you.
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You gotta go through the process to heal, right?
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From your parents, and we are gardens ourselves, we are gardens ourselves, and I and to be a good gardener, I had to take care of this seedling because something is coming to attack it, it doesn't want it to get to its full potential.
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So at each stage of the growth process for the seed, it had a whole different set of insects coming for it because their goal is to destroy it.
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Yeah, that's us.
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We have to tell you, I'm gonna have to tell you because I commend you for doing the garden, but me and my mother tried to do garden, and when the worms start coming out, we was like, oh so I am not a gardener, I tell you.
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I don't even we moved to here from New Jersey to to Georgia.
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I uh some of the creatures here that I've never seen in my life.
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I grew up in the city, so I don't know what the heck these things are.
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So I said, you know what?
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I think I'm I'm good.
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My flowers, so I really commend you, and I'm so happy that God actually helped you to be able to determine to get out of that.
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So that's what helped you be able to grow.
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It was him.
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Yeah, he's what you just said, girl.
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I can't pick up a worm to this day.
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You hear me?
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Look, and everybody asked me that.
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Oh, how do you I don't play with bugs?
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I'm looking like I never played with not one bug out there because it was plenty of days that the neighbors heard me screaming and running.
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So definitely there was some surgery going on here.
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Some surgery.
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When I say some heavenless surgery, some godless surgery, because me in the outside with insects and worms, and that is that's not me.
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I still can't fish because I cannot get no worm and put it on no hood.
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There's no way.
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So I know that that God had a plan, and this was all him because I didn't see Khelsea doing none of this.
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It's amazing because I used to remember when my mother-in-law, and she had garden, she had a garden, and she grew her greens and tomatoes and cucumbers and all that.
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So when I got pregnant, she had my husband, okay, take these greens home to Wanda so she can she can cook them.
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So he brought the greens home and there was worms on it.
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I'm screaming, I'm like, I can't do this, I can't do this.
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You got to clean the greens.
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Well, we can talk about a lot of stuff.
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So, what lessons from nature have taught you the most about resilience and renewal?
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I would say, like I spoke earlier, everything we need to grow is already in us.
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This everything.
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So when I did something with some children one day, and I had all kinds of little seeds to show them the seeds.
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So, you know, what I started, what was amazing to me out there, Wanda, was to see this little bitty seed, and they all come in different shapes, sizes, none of them look the same, but to know that everything that seed needed to grow was already in it, but it need it needed a certain environment to be in to grow.
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And I'm like, so do you mean to tell me this little bitty seed has this tomato in it?
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This tomato has more tomatoes in it.
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It it we're talking about trees, so a seed can turn into a tree.
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So it just made me understand everything that I've ever needed was already in me.
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It needed to be cultivated, nourished, protected, watered.
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When we're talking about a tree can grow into a forest, you mean all from the little seed.
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So that's what I had to share.
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Like nature that helped me understand life, it helped me understand us, it then understanding the compatibility with being around in a certain environment that's going to be beneficial to you, that's going to us.
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We're looking for love, we're looking for companionship, joyful.
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Help me look, I can't be around nobody toxic and expect to grow or multiply.
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So, yeah, I understood all of that, those lessons from that garden.
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It helps me to this day.
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And I'm telling you, I'm just flying high because I understand it.
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No matter what happens, I understand the life of a seed.
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And I took to God be the glory, it has nothing to do with me.
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It's all God all in this story.
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And I see the joy that you have.
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I mean, you like I said, we went you went through it, but you got strong enough to be able to help others, and that's how your healing came about, right?
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So let's talk about you're a cosmetologist.
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How do beauty and nature connect with your work and your mission?
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I would say with cosmetology, I've been doing hair for over 25 years, and the garden again, me understanding how I love to care for things to get them to their full potential.
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I understood for the first time why I was a cosmetologist for over 25 years.
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Because I love to care for my clients.
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I love people come in your chair, they have all kinds of things going on.
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But God entrusted these hands to do something to transform you so that when you look in that mirror, you are a different person from when you walked in the door.
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And that is the responsibility God gave me to provide that service to you so that you can look in that mirror and say, Wow, oh, I'm beautiful.
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So that same feeling for me to give to my clients, it was the same love and care that I like to give to the garden.
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So I was like, okay, so I just that those two to me are similar because I am helping, I'm nourishing, I'm providing everything needed so that you can have confidence, so that you can feel great.
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I'm telling you, I've heard it all.
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And I didn't want anybody to feel after.
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Felt ever.
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I felt ever with what I've been through in life.
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I had that moment in the garden when I had a backyard full of food, and I'm like, wow.
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So I've been doing hair all of this time because at the end of the day, I want everybody to feel good, to be happy, to grow, not to hurt, not to be sad in the garden.
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I want to feed everybody.
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I'm just like food everywhere.
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I can feed everybody.
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That's just always been my personality.