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Welcome to Ready Set Collaborate with Wanda Pearson.
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This is where ideas spark, connections grow, and collaborations fuse success.
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Tune in for inspiring stories, expert insights, and game-changing conversations.
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Let's build, connect, and thrive together.
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Remember, collaboration is the key to success.
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Welcome to another empowering episode of RadioSet Collaborate with Wanda Pearson.
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Today's guest is Tanja Mohammed, founder of College Cost Cutter and author of the College Funding Playbook: Seven Proven Methods for Funding Your Children's Education Without Breaking the Bank.
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I love that.
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A lot of people need to hear about this going to college here.
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Yes.
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So Latanja is on a mission to help families navigate college planning with clarity and confidence so that they can avoid unnecessary debt and build a smarter financial future.
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If you're a parent, grandparent, or someone who cares about the next generation, this conversation is for you.
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Welcome, Latanja.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, I'm so glad to have you here.
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And I'm happy to have you tell us about what you do and how we can actually not get into debt with everything.
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So that's the goal.
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That's the goal.
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Yes, yes.
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So say hello to the audience, Latanja.
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Hello, everyone.
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Thank you again, Ms.
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Wanda, for having me on the show.
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As Wanda mentioned, I'm Latanja Mohammed, founder of College Cost Cutter and author of the College Funding Playbook.
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The playbook is being revised and updated.
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So the next edition will be available starting the end of April.
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So I've started the pre-sale launch and I'm excited about it because there have been some changes with the current administration.
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So I needed to revise the edition that was written in 2023.
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So I'm excited about the updates.
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That's awesome.
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That's because everybody needs to hear it, especially when you have colleagues.
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It's so expensive to go to college these days.
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Yes.
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And try to get loans and everything else you can get there.
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So I appreciate you coming on the show.
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But I also want to say a little bit more about your bio.
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Okay.
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She helps families navigate the complex world of college admissions, financial aid, and scholarship strategies to significantly reduce the cost of higher education.
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So the key focus is student positioning, faster strategy, which I love.
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My daughter and them just did that last week, so they could have used your help.
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And award-led analysis and appeals.
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This is just a little smart, but I'm since 2016, Latinja has presented workshops and educational programs in Metro, Detroit, and beyond, including United Way of Southeastern Michigan, Ford African Ancestry Network.
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I didn't know they had that.
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Ford African Ancestry Network.
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Is that how you say it?
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Salantis.
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Salantis, African Ancestry.
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I don't know how to say this one.
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Diaspora.
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Diaspora Network, Detroit Economic Growth Corporation, numerous parents networks, and community groups.
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Pontiac Public Schools, a six-week onsite program at Western International High School in Detroit and more, as well as appearances on Fox 2, Detroit Morning News, and numerous podcasts.
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She is a proud mother of two amazing sons.
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Oh, I love that.
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Amazing sons, boy.
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I tell you when you say that.
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Now, how old lady Lasandra?
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My older son just turned 30 on Monday.
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And my younger one is 27.
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He'll be 28 in June.
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Okay, okay, cool.
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Wow, that's great.
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That's great.
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Yeah, it's nice when they get older and you can get them out the house.
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They own their own.
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They've been gone for a minute.
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Yeah.
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I'm so happy to have you on the show here.
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And I'm gonna start off with some questions.
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And this is really impressive as far as your uh what you do and how you've gotten.
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And how long have you been doing this?
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Since 2016.
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So this is year 10.
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Okay.
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Happy anniversary.
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Thank you.
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It's amazing.
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So tell us a little bit about the college funding playbook.
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And you were talking about that.
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Why did you write it and what can readers expect to learn from it?
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So I wrote the college funding playbook to reach more people.
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So what happens is we've done workshops for groups, churches, schools, then individual families, one by one, one by one.
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And I wanted something that would at least introduce more families to these concepts that a lot of people just aren't aware of.
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I always say families just don't know what they don't know.
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And so the book is designed to at least open families' eyes, the students and the parents, open their eyes to some of the mistakes, myths, and misconceptions that people have about college funding and just to give people a smoother road because there's so much mystery to the system.
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And there's just a lot of praying and hoping and not enough strategy, you know, that most families take on.
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So that's why I wrote the book.
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I wanted to reach more people.
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I wanted something they could get in their hand that was affordable, that would at least start them thinking differently about the process and making better choices.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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What inspired you to start the college cost cutter?
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College cost cutter came out of, it was born out of initially my own experience with my two sons.
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So 10 years ago, my younger son was a senior in high school.
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And I went to an event, and a gentleman was there that I had heard before a couple times, and he said things that I had never heard before.
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It was actually a FAFSA night.
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He said so many things I had never heard before and never thought of.
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And I realized that night how late I was, that I was late learning all these things.
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And I really got mad.
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I said, why isn't somebody telling us this sooner?
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And so he was having workshops and seminars, and I was telling other parents, go see this guy, go see this guy, go see this guy.
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And finally he said, You're sending all these people to me, help me.
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I can't do this by myself.
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Okay.
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So that's how I got started in the college planning space.
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And years down the line, I branched off and started college cost cutter ultimately.
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I love it.
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I love it because a lot of us don't know what we don't know.
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Right.
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About educating and empowering our people and how to be able to afford college to be.
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Because a lot of students want to go to college, but it's very expensive.
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Yeah, that's when I went, it was expensive.
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I can imagine what it is now.
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I don't even know what it is now.
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And it keeps going up.
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Keeps going up.
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Yeah, it is.
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It is.
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So what is the student positioning and why is it important for that?
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So student positioning is so important.
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A lot of people, when they choose colleges, whether it's the student or their parents, you'll be surprised at some of the criteria that people use to pick a college.
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I remember sitting with one family, and the son wanted to go to a specific college because of the football team.
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He wasn't a football player, mind you.
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He was a football fan.
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And so he wanted to go to this particular college because of the football team.
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Sometimes people choose college based on where someone else in the family went.
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A student might say, Oh, I want to go out to California.
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It's so beautiful out there.
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I love the weather.
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Just so many arbitrary, random ways that people decide which college to use.
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And I don't want to insult anybody because some people really do research.
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They look at the majors, they look at the costs, they look at a lot of things.
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But for a lot of families, they don't know how to match the student to what we call the best fit college.
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And best fit means academically.
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So the student needs to go to a college not only where their academic strengths will get them in, a high probability of admission, but once they get there where they will thrive and be successful.
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Sometimes students pick trophy colleges and they get into those colleges and they're stressed out and they struggle.
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Sometimes they may pick a college that's too rigorous.
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Sometimes they may pick a college that's not rigorous enough and they find themselves hanging out too much or partying too much.
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So there's an academic match.
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There is a social match.
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Some students pick a college where they don't feel like they fit in.
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They feel isolated.
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They feel alone.
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They feel like there are not enough people like them, whatever that means.
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And so a social match is really important.
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And then geography is important too.
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And then, of course, the finances are important.
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Families need to know how to pick the college that will give them the most possible money, free money to attend.
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And so the proper research and the proper matching will help the student check all those boxes.
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So that's what student positioning is about.
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Okay, and you help students do that with the parents?
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Okay.
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Oh, that's awesome.
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That's awesome because you everything you just said, yeah, you're right.
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Because I remember I went to SIU in Carbon, Illinois, and that was considered the partying school person.
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And I was only 16 when I went to college.
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I didn't know, but I knew when I went, I did not want to waste my parents' money.
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I recorded a party.
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So my parents were happy.
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Oh, you got a C.
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They were happy with the C.
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I said, I'm trying to get the B and the A.
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And I ended up going up to B and A, but I knew it was important because I did not want to waste my parents' money for going to college.
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So thank you for saying that.
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Really, I really wish you were around a lot earlier during that time here, but now you can help the future generation.
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Let's put it that way, right?
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So why has college become so expensive?
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So that's an interesting topic.
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So one thing about things becoming more expensive in general, I think that a lot of people don't think about is the dollar is losing purchasing power.
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So that's number one.
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Every dollar we have is buying less and less.
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It is being devalued.
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If you know anything about the history of money, that's just what happens.
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All these empires, they devalue their currency, it buys less and less, it becomes more and more worthless.
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That's one thing that's happening in the economy, period.
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But another reason that college is becoming more and more expensive, I have seen a lot of information suggesting that because of the easy availability of loans, that has pushed up the cost of college.
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And sometimes you will see colleges really pushing loans, really pushing the federal loans and pulling back on some of the funds that they have to offer, they're using the loans.
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And so we've got this student loan that that's just spiraling.
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So if people knew more about how they could get more free money, and even if you have to get loans, minimize the amounts of loans that you get, that would be really helpful.
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But that's one of the things that people are saying is increasing the cost of college.
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But colleges, like every other business, they have a budget.
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They have huge, tremendous overhead.
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And so the same factors that affect other businesses affect colleges too.
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So costs are going up, just the cost of business is going up as well for them, like everybody else.
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I I love that.
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And I said that was my next question about why are student loans not the only option?
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I think the student loans should be the last resort because there are primarily four places where money comes from for undergraduate students.
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And I'll give those to you in order of the largest pool of money down to the smallest pool of money, the federal government.
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Number one, highest, largest pool of money, federal government.
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Number two, the colleges.
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Number three, states.
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Number four, private scholarships.
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And most people go after the private scholarships, that's all they think about.
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Private scholarships, private scholarships, private scholarships.
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That's the smallest pool of money.
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It's a lot of money, but it's the smallest pool.
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And so our student positioning program, as well as what we also call financial positioning, are our primary focus.
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Yes, look for scholarships, add that on, but scholarships are not a good plan.
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You can't plan to go to college around scholarships.
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They're so competitive.
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The average student who gets a scholarship only gets around$76,000,$7,800.
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That's not enough to cover college costs.
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Back to student positioning.
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The looking to the largest pool of money other than the government is where we help families get a lot of free money.
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Wow.
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Yeah, so loans are not loans, should be the last resort.
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Wow.
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So you help that's interesting because actually my uh grandson, I told you he was going into a fact school.
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Do you help with that as well?
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Yes, because even the trade schools and two-year colleges, those students are eligible for Pale Grants.
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So those students can still get Pale grants.
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Those the two-year colleges don't necessarily always offer all of the same types of law of scholarships and grants as four-year colleges and universities.
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And the four-year colleges and universities are my focus.
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But when students complete the FAFSA, the financial positioning side of things, that planning benefits the two-year and vocational students as well, because the FAFSA is required for those schools.
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So from that standpoint, we can help those students more too.
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Okay, that's good.
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That's good to know.
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Qualify for more financial aid.
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Because FAFSA, that's the first thing they should be doing.
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Is that the first thing or it's not the first thing, but it's important.
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And one of the things that families don't do, they don't start thinking about the FAFSA and planning to complete the FAFSA sooner.
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Most families think about the FAFSA once it's open and time to fill it out.
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But there are strategies that families can use to influence the outcome.
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What you get when you complete the FAFSA is called the student aid index.
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That number is what gets sent to the colleges to let them know your eligibility for financial aid.
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They use it in the calculation to determine how much demonstrated need you have.
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If we can get families to start planning freshman year, sophomore year, just like business owners with a good accountant can plan ahead to reduce their tax liability, there are strategies that families can use if they plan ahead so that those numbers that they put on the FAFSA, and they will be truthful.
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We do not lie or exaggerate on the FAFSA, but the numbers will be truthful.
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We can help the families strategize and plan how to maneuver their income and assets to increase eligibility.
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So that's so it's I think one of the biggest mistakes that families make in the process is waiting too late to start thinking about the FAFSA.
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And they just don't understand.
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They just don't know what the FAFSA entails and how and how the output works.
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So that's good.
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You actually answered a lot of the questions that I was gonna ask you.
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So thank you for doing that.
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I appreciate it.
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So how does college planning affect long-term finances?
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I'm sure that you see that a lot.
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One of the things that we really try to help parents avoid is rating their retirement to pay for college.
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And sometimes when the families don't get the financial aid that they need and they have to come out of pocket, they'll borrow from their 401k or take distributions or liquidate stocks or different things.