Dec. 26, 2024
Unlocking Your Full Potential: Christian Ray Flores on High-Performance Coaching and Legacy Building

Are you living to your fullest potential, or is something holding you back from achieving the life you truly want?
In this inspiring episode, we sit down with Christian Ray Flores, a performance coach, philanthropist, and former international pop star. Christian shares his journey from global fame to impactful coaching and philanthropy. Together, we explore how to align your inner and outer game, create lasting legacies, and embrace the whispers of your soul to live a high-impact life.
5 Key Takeaways
- Embrace Your Calling: Success without alignment to your purpose leads to disharmony. Discover the power of listening to your inner voice to find fulfillment.
- The 360-Degree Approach: True high performance includes mastery in relationships, emotional intelligence, and personal growth—not just career achievements.
- Social Intelligence Matters: Success isn’t just about skills; trustworthiness and generosity play a pivotal role in breaking through limitations.
- Elevate Habits, Not Goals: Achieve sustainable success by developing high-impact habits across all areas of life.
- Legacy through Impact: Whether through coaching or philanthropy, creating generational change begins with intentional actions and investments.
Quotes from Christian
- "To live a high-impact life, you must elevate your habits consistently and sustainably."
- "The whispers of your soul are signals for transformation—listen to them before they become screams."
How to Reach the Guest
Website: https://www.xponential.life/
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So if you ever say, hi, we're live. Oh my gosh.
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Yesterday I had an interview with Pi. Pi, everyone
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should meet Pi. You should get her on your phone.
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She's a conversational AI and she's amazing.
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Christian, it was a lot of fun and we had people
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on chatter. the social audio app and then live
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on Facebook. But the problem was you have to
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mute the site and all this stuff. So Christian's
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been really lovely. He's been waiting 12 full
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minutes for us to try to figure out like, is
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it on his end? He unplugged everything. He plugged
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it back in. So all I know about Christian, and
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I just learned this little teeny bit right now,
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is he's a good looking guy. Oh, thank you. You're
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so kind. Handsome. So Christian, this is Brave,
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Bold, Beautiful. Handsome. So you're going to
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introduce yourself because I did zero prep. This
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is right off. This isn't this is oh she'll is
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that surely we're good. Okay, so Christian introduce
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yourself Well, well, thanks for having me appreciate
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it it's it's sort of complicated to introduce
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myself, but in broad strokes, I I'm sort of this
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international guy. I grew up, you know for this
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is my sixth country and my fourth continent And
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I have this sort of pretty wild story. I think
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that's why people usually try to are interested
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in hearing some of it. But I basically do I do
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performance coaching for for business leaders,
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nonprofit leaders. We do personal brand development
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and media, digital media. We're pretty good at
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it. And we also do some philanthropy overseas
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and stuff like that. So that's it. That's that's
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the gist of it. That's the quick elevator pitch,
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if you'd like it. OK, I do. Though I like elevator
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pictures that start with a question like our
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like, first of all, do you know what performance
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coaching is? And the answer for me would be no,
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I have no idea. So tell us what that even means.
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Oh, that's a fantastic question. It's basically,
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you know, it's a really good almost like filter
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title for when you do something specific. And,
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you know, there's all kinds of coaching, like
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everybody and their mother or coaches. Right.
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So the This one, you know, what I enjoy focusing
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on is on people. who want to really achieve peak
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performance consistently, sustainably for the
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rest of their lives, right? They want to, I mean,
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they're not, they're driven, they want to do
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more, they want to impact more, they want to
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give more, they want to love more, and to do
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that you have to make some changes in the way
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you work, you rest, you love, you do friendship
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the way you do spirituality, all of that, so
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that you really have a high impact life, and
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to have an impact life you have to have you know,
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some high impact habits, right? So basically,
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the choices we make, whether we are conscious
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of them or not, is that we either lower our our
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goals, or we elevate our habits. And performance
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coaching is how do you elevate your habits consistently,
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sustainably, so that you make a difference in
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the world for a long time. So if we were in an
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elevator together, and you gave me your elevator
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pitch and that I actually like stop the elevator
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from moving up and down because I want to talk
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to you. I would go back and say to you, do you
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mean like almost like a 360 degree poaching program
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that I love that. And I really see that 360 because
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you're hitting everything. So that was that's
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amazing. And then I would keep talking to you
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and just, like, not let you get out of the elevator
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ever and just be in there with me like such.
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But I love that. OK, so you started talking about
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the country. So where are you now? I'm in Austin,
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Texas. So this is yeah. But I grew up in Chile,
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Germany, Russia, Africa, back to Russia, Ukraine,
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then the U .S. and even within the U .S. when
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we do around a little bit before we settle down
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on lovely Austin, Texas. I love Austin, Texas.
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So, so your life experiences in these other countries
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with these other cultures really has helped you.
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Tell us how that has shaped your business and
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your performance coaching. Well, you know, performance
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coaching is. It's really about understanding.
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The very, the very essence of somebody's. assignment
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in life right the thing that we're put on earth
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to do which we a lot of the time we really ignore
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that because it's hard it's much easier to sort
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of pick a lane that you know whatever somebody
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else's story your parents your society is surrounding
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even your social status group will will pick
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for you and then stay in that lane because we're
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so primally tribal right so we want to fit in
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we don't want we don't want to be the the sort
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of the rogue person who does something else uh
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and if it coincides it coincides with your calling
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and your assignment in life that's wonderful
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most of the time it doesn't you have to find
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your own lane create your own story and when
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when when the rubber meets the road it's when
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Let's say we pick a lane in life and we go for
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it and we start feeling the success. The most
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visible part of our development is our outer
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game, what I call it. It's the skill sets that
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serve other people. So you get rewarded with
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money, promotion, success, status, respect, all
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of those things. Eventually, the inner game,
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which is actually less visible, Therefore, we're
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not incentivized to work on it. The flaws in
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our inner game, right? Our people, our social
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intelligence, for example, our emotional intelligence,
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our understanding of culture, our ability to
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inspire, connect. mobilize other people to help
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you in your cause. Some of the flat sides, the
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skills that you just don't have, for whatever
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reason, it doesn't matter, right? It doesn't
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make you a bad person. You know, your lack of
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romantic skills, right? Or your lack of the ability
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to attract, date, marry the right person, and
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then keep the right person around. All these
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things, all these inner game things, all the
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stuff that the world will never see because they're
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under the surface. those weaknesses catch up
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with you, and then they become, now they start
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affecting your outer game. And the way it looks
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like for a lot of people is that they go, go,
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go, go, go, they do great, great, great, great,
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great, and then all kinds of stuff that's under
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the hood starts affecting your performance, basically
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your outward performance. And now you start to,
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now you need to really realize that what is high
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performance in the first place? High performance
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is you living to the design of your being. You're
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living to the fullness of your being, not just
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being a great engineer or mathematician or writer
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or singer, right, or business person, but to
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the fullness, the 360 part of you. You serving
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others, right? You being full of purpose and
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intentionality and you doing incredible creative
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work and incredible creative work. takes a lot
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of peace, a lot of harmony, a lot of focus, a
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lot of intentionality, a lot of super hard work,
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a lot of detailed emotional work. That's what
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I love focusing on with people. Christian, so
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I'm 62 years old. I really believe, I look back
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and I think, oh my God, if I had a live performance
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coach starting at when I got out of college.
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I think it would be amazing. And I think of a
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lot of the mistakes that I've made in my younger
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years. I'm sure I'm still making mistakes, but,
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you know, those focus on, you know, my work life
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career in my 20s and my 30s and my 40s and my
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50s and now my 60s. I really believe in my heart
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that that would have made a difference because
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you're right there is a cycle and a lot of it
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could be your emotions like you know when you
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don't understand I had a hard time I grew up
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in a family business so I'll take this time to
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say Jerry you're right like there's a lot of
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times where like I would actually be thinking
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of something but then the inexperience young
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not coached person would come out and would say
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things and would let anger and and would be like
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I have to be the first person. So learning skills
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like and I'll just I'm going to say the skill
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then you kind of like share like how you can
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learn the skill of understanding that people's
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time matters and that coming into a meeting late
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doesn't feed anyone's ego. It just makes you
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look like you're not a caring and empathetic
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person. You're okay to make people wait. You
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take that one. Oh, absolutely. I mean, social
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skills, the social intelligence is an extraordinary
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gift. Extraordinary gift. And I know some brilliant
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people who can literally be, I mean, on a societal
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level, world changers on a financial level, literally
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billionaires who will never be that. Unless they
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start engaging in developing their social intelligence,
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right? That's just one dimension. And even if
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you're playing on the highest of levels, and
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that's sort of the people that I usually work
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with, these people that are fairly successful,
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and they realize, you know what, I hit a ceiling
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that is almost invisible to me, because I don't
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understand why. clearly what I have is valuable
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and somehow I'm limited in real life. Reality
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starts pushing back against what you fully realize
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is high potential. But I'll give you a quick
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example. So imagine two people, right? One is
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a, I'll call that person anonymizing a real life
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situation. I'm calling that person an investor,
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somebody who is high net worth, they have a network
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of other investors, et cetera. The other person
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is a, let's call him a fund manager, right? He...
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takes investors' money and invests them in startups,
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et cetera. So the investor introduces me to the
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fund manager. The fund manager has me over to
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their office and tells me how he's invested in
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100 different startups, blah, blah, blah. Fantastic
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office, of course. Very impressive guy. And then
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we have a conversation. It just doesn't really
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go anywhere beyond him probing whether I can
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bring... That investor that introduced us to
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the tape back to the table maybe with a larger
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investment just because I'm friends with him
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or he's my client and I mentor him and And so
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basically we have a very civil conversation fascinating
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informative the whole thing, right? And then
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I go back to the investor and I say hey the you
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know, the fund manager He goes how to go I said,
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you know great and I think he really primarily
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was just probing if I can get you and some of
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your friends to sort of come back to the table
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and bring in a little bit more capital and The
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investor told me something really fascinating
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and I think it's a really good illustration of
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Even if you're extraordinarily successful You
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will find the ceiling that you can't overcome
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unless you change your inner game in a profound
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way He says this, he says, oh, he's never gonna
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get that level of investment. I'm like, really?
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This is an impressive dude. He goes, yeah, because
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he's now known for someone who is really more
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than anything self -seeking. Oh, wait, self -seeking?
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Like selfish? Yeah, self -seeking. In a conversation,
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he wants, what do I get out of it? But he's not
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generous. God. And beyond a certain level of...
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of expertise and almost like flight, right? People
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start caring about your trustworthiness, your
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generosity, and your social intelligence, your
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character. Way more than they care about your
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outer game, that you can invest somebody else's
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money. That's just the baseline. Everybody's
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good at that level, right? So you see how incredible
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it is to understand that you can be extraordinarily
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professional and yet hit a ceiling that you can't
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overcome. unless you get some help, unless you
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start doing some inner work. And then you break
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through that ceiling and you reach your true
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potential. And you're also more fulfilled, more
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happy, more connected. You know, you have a legacy.
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Wow, I want to see your marketing. And I'm kind
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of sad that I didn't do any prep because your
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marketing must really be interesting to go through.
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Share your marketing and branding strategy, because
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to me, you're we said the 360, but this is really
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something for someone to look in the mirror,
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or like zoom, like I'm looking and saying, do
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you actually have everything that would allow
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you to scale and grow? Have a great reputation?
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I it's so funny, too, because I have actually
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seen that someone who would be fantastic, but
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yet there's like pieces of the personality that
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makes And I'm sure others say, well, I don't
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think I can work with that. It won't make sense.
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Even though everything else, 90 % is amazing.
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10 % is a problem. That's really interesting.
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Can you share with us a little bit about your
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branding and marketing? And I think you had mentioned
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that too, but if you offer that, but also how
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are you marketing yourself? Yes, we do definitely,
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in my other company called Third Drive Media,
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you can go check it out, thirddrivemedia .com,
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we do brand development and brand strategy, and
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then the execution on that. How do you show up
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in the digital world, basically? What kind of
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reputation do you get? And really, personal branding
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is nothing more than your digitalized reputation
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at scale. If I do a Google search, will you show
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up? And how will you show up? What would the
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internet say about you? Well, not just referrals.
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Referrals are just people network. But we live
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in an age that is just so extraordinary because
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you can serve anyone at any time in any place.
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in almost any way actually, not exactly every
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way, but most ways, right? Even doctors and lawyers
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and people that are, for the longest time, they're
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sort of the exclusive domain on the one -on -one
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in -person meetings are no longer bound by these
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things. Accountants, engineers, I mean, all kinds
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of offerings are really now remote, right? They
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don't have to be remote, but they can be remote.
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The idea is that you can reach people more importantly
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people can know about you and You know basically
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what you need for that is the bet I think the
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best Strategy for branding is deeply deeply understanding
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what your mission is Right in life, which is
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a deeper inner game kind of discovery why well
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you'll show up with more passion You'll show
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up with more Sort of authority I guess right
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with more zeal and people believe that you know
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You can when I speak to you right now. You know
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that I care right you can feel it That's that's
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what I'm talking about. You have a mission. What's
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your mission, right? And then the second thing
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is what's your vision? What do you want to build
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exactly with that mission because you can do
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five things with the same exact mission Now and
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you but you have to be very very clear of what
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you're trying to build and what are the steps
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to? To get there What's your vision for your
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potential clients? What is the journey that you
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take them on? What does it entail? That sort
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of thing. And then the last one is really what's
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your solution, specifically. So these three,
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I think, in my book are the most important. And
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if you have a solution that is super broad, And
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I get all these messages, we all get these messages,
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right? Hey, I am dot dot dot and I do dot dot
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dot. Most of the time, 90 % of the time, the
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solution is very vague. It's just not specific.
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I would say, not to be judgmental, but lazy.
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It's a lazy way to communicate about the thing
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that you do. But if you have mission, you will
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obsess over it, right? You will obsess over your
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vision, where you want people to be when you
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work with them. And because of that, you will
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obsess over the solution. And the solution will
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be so specific, so clear, so compelling that
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people will wanna learn more and they wanna talk
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to you. And you'll actually, part of the benefit
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is that you'll be able to say, you know what,
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I don't think I can help you. because my solution
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is so specific, you don't fit into the profile
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and vice versa, and feel great about it. So I
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think that's sort of the, again, this is the
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inner game part. The outer game is executing,
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right? So of course you can compete through design.
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We do award -winning web design, video, that
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kind of thing. But that's really the outer game
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part. So the inner game does precede the outer
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game. And if your inner game is fantastic and
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very well worked through, the outer game is just,
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it's less cumbersome because you are now free
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creatively to create something very beautiful.
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that is compelling to people when they see it.
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But the thing is if you don't have your inner
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game set up, your strategy, right? No outer game
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solution, even a beautiful design will actually
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really help you because the engagement level
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will be super low. Christian, you know where
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I see this? So no names, but we have in our community
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a woman who serves on a board saying things that
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were so off that the mayor wants to remove her.
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And so I think to myself, what would make her
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say things like that? What would make anyone
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that we have seen on the news say something and
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then feel like, oh, I'm just going to say, I'm
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so sorry. I didn't mean to say it, but you've
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already said it. Apology like that to me doesn't
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mean anything. You've already showed your true
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self. So I do think that you could really go
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after the politicians to remind them, but I'm
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just using it as an example. Yeah, absolutely.
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Someone that you have to have everything. That
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means when and I like the word performance because
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I think of Walt Disney, right? Of course, I live
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in Daytona Beach where I lived in Celebration,
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the town that Disney built for six years. Disney
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always said you're performing. You know, I used
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to think the minute I'd wake up, I'm performing.
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I need to show my children to be nice. Oh, there's
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my shirt. Be nice. I just got in the mail. You
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know, so we have to also to have that role model.
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So if you don't have someone like Christian.
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Working on your inner yikes is all I can say
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that is a lot of damaging. But I want to ask
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you now about the nonprofit, because I heard
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you say nonprofit. And that is something also
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that can be very serious. I've seen nonprofits
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go downhill very quickly because of something
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that the chair or the president said. So I'd
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love to hear more about that. Well, my nonprofit,
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I it's called ascend Academy, as I'm going up.
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So it's ascend dot Academy. And it's a small
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effort, but it's also, again, to illustrate,
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deeply rooted in mission. And the mission is
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that we are, I think, called to lend a hand to
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someone who's in a disadvantage, just personally.
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It's not the role of the government. The government
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can do that in extreme situations, but I think
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it's a human -to -human kind of thing, compassion
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and action. The mission is also very specific,
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right? The mission is to get children who are
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in extreme poverty. Extreme poverty, the UN,
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the definition I think by the UN is under $2
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a day, right? So that's pretty extreme. So these
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are kids who live in the outskirts of Maputo,
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which is the capital of Mozambique. And it's,
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you know, cinder block walls, cement floors or
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dirt floors, no bathroom indoors, no plumbing,
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that kind of thing. No access to really sort
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of the issue there is that there's no character
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development embedded in the family unit because
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it's usually single parent home. They're sometimes
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raised by their older siblings or their grandmother
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or just a mom for a variety of reasons. sort
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of the fabric, the character that makes a high
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-performance human being is just not there. They're
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not formed that way, right? So that's one thing.
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The other thing is they don't have any way to
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learn a language that can extend their reach
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professionally to other countries. So they speak
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Portuguese and that's all they speak. The language
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of the world, especially if you want to... transcend
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your local economy that is depressed and one
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of the lowest in the world is English. The third
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piece is you have no access to computers or the
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internet at all, right? So what we do, so we
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got now to the solution, right? So this is a
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great descriptor of what we talked about. So
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our mission is to get them out of poverty before
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they are out of high school. That's the mission.
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The solution is let's immerse them In after school
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every day four or five days a week for three
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four hours Give them a meal and give them put
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them in a clean room with air conditioning With
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some middle -class professionals who they can
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associate with and they will teach him about
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character about values about You can do this
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just like I did, you know, so they start believing
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They start imagining themselves succeeding at
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a certain level, and they had no access to people
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like that before. And their character changes,
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and they say, look, if you want to be like me,
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this is how you act. You raise your hand. You
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lead a discussion. You learn all of those things.
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Then they teach them English, and they teach
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them computer literacy. They have laptops. They
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have internet. That's the solution. So with that
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specificity of mission, Vision and solution I
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can go out and I can put together I can come
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before your audience I can speak about it in
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an educated way compelling way I can put it on
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the website Anything I do a communicate and the
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right people will say yes, that's I want to be
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part of that I'm gonna donate or I'm gonna volunteer
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or both I'm gonna you know join a trip once every
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two years will take a group there and hang out
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with the kids Does that make sense? So it's so
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I'm now telling you about the philanthropy and
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I'm telling you about the the branding of the
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philanthropy. Oh, I told you I'm 62. I totally
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get it. You know, I just saw a movie on Netflix
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called The Children's Train. Very interesting.
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Back in 1944, where children from very, very
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low income, hardly eating, you know, poverty.
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They were that the government decided to try
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to do something different and so they put the
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children on a train to go up to and Up north
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where they would be taken care of where they
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would have everything like you said But they
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were removed from their mother and father And
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and so really amazing story. I think you would
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enjoy Reading that story, but so my question
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to you. Thank you for explaining that. Can you
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just when you said third? I just is it th IRD
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or is it the number three? Yeah Yes, it's spelled
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out third drive calm. Yes All right. I'll make
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sure that's in the show notes to Christian so
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I totally get it I don't know if you in the back
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at it, but I get it but you know I'm older maybe
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I understand and I've gone through Well, how
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like when I'm listening to you, I know that oh
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my god, this would be something that I could
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have used It still could, I'm not saying that,
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but my question for you is, how does someone
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go to work for you? I'm almost thinking, I want
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to almost talk to the mom and dads out there
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because I think if you start young with you,
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that would make a huge difference. It could even
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make a difference after you graduated high school
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and going into college, how you focus, how you
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listen, how you treat others, how you treat your
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professor, how you're getting the information
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in. So what do you find is the age that you really
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love to start? And maybe this will be something
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that would carry over, even if they didn't need
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weekly or monthly, but that you would work with
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someone. And I'm talking about, you're talking
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about coaching, correct? Or are you talking about
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the performance coaching? Well, performance coaching,
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really a lot of that's a, it's a great question.
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So because it is a very thorough sort of process,
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it needs a lot of attention. And because it needs
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a lot of attention and a lot of actually investment
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of emotional labor, the person needs to become
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an apprentice. And I think that's really the
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right posture. That's how masters are born. Masters
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are born when they become apprentices first.
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And you can be actually a master already in your
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field, but you can be a common apprentice in
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another field that helps you become a master
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in the first field, a better master. Most of
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the time the people that I work with are either
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in between seasons, actually. That's sort of
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what I've known. Now, there's a rare occasion
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where somebody says, man, you inspire me. Everything
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you say resonates with me. I just want to level
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up my game. And I'm doing fine, but I just want
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to level up my game. Most of the time, as humans,
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only ask for help when we're in pain. The two
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sort of general seasons where people come to
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me are Where in between seasons, right? It's
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either people sort of in their 30s and they're
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already very professional and they're Made sort
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of going up the ladder or sort of say right this,
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you know or the social ladder or the court ladder
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and they they are They are doing well. They're
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respected, but they want to really Elevate their
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game. They just want to go to the next level
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to to a level of mastery Basically, so it's the
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season between practitioner and master and they're
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in between seasons. So they're neither here nor
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there They don't want to be a petition anymore.
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They want to be a master. How do I get there?
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So that's one the second one The second group
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is usually people who are already masters their
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VP CEOs founders, etc They might be in there,
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you know either late 40s or all the way to up
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to mid 60s and they want to really they Their
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sort of tension is that they already have the
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influence, the money, the status, but they want
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significance, legacy, the next evolution of this,
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almost like you want to become a sage, you want
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to give back, you want this to mean something,
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you want... Perhaps there are sort of dimensions
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in your life that you under invested in, in your
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master years, maybe you compromised too much
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and now you're hurting. Those are the people
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that come to me. So it's usually in the 30s and
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then in 30s, you know, early to mid... to late
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30s and then early to late 50s and 60s. I can't
00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:56.779
hear you. Silly me. So as a podcast host that
00:27:56.779 --> 00:27:59.319
does no prep, I have to say when you hear the
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:00.740
words, that's a great question. It always makes
00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:02.480
you feel good because you're like, ooh, that
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.160
means I'm thinking off the top of my head, which
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.819
is good. All right. So what should people look
00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:11.470
for? So I'm in my 30s. I wish I was. I'm in my
00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:15.089
30s. I'm doing great. But I've noticed that some
00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:17.589
people are saying things to me. They're saying,
00:28:18.049 --> 00:28:20.130
you know, Adrian, sometimes you're not focused.
00:28:20.769 --> 00:28:23.529
Or, you know, Adrian, you don't listen very well.
00:28:24.569 --> 00:28:28.240
Or that interaction you had with Sally Sue. I
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.940
think you could have done it better. Like what
00:28:29.940 --> 00:28:32.920
is it that people will notice or when is it that
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.480
someone who loves that person and is like, hmm,
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.740
they if they would be at like everything, that's
00:28:38.740 --> 00:28:41.000
what this person would be. Oh my god, they would
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.069
be Billionaire, I could see them on the road
00:28:44.069 --> 00:28:46.609
traveling and touring, but there's one piece
00:28:46.609 --> 00:28:48.809
of their effort, one piece. And a lot of times
00:28:48.809 --> 00:28:50.430
where I think that is Christian for a lot of
00:28:50.430 --> 00:28:54.710
people is their ego coming out. So I just want
00:28:54.710 --> 00:28:56.670
to have you answer the question, how can you
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help someone when they're actually hearing it?
00:28:58.950 --> 00:29:02.730
And do you offer like personalized training and
00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:05.730
coaching, or is it just strict packages? And
00:29:05.730 --> 00:29:08.470
then what do you say to someone that recognizes
00:29:08.470 --> 00:29:11.619
that Someone that they love and know and want
00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:14.539
them to go up that ladder and scale. How do they
00:29:14.539 --> 00:29:17.140
help them? What like? Give me a bigger picture.
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.160
I know it's a lot of questions. I ask a lot of
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:20.819
questions, but do you want to see what I'm trying
00:29:20.819 --> 00:29:22.359
to say? Oh, I totally understand what you're
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:24.140
saying what you're saying. Well, okay, so let
00:29:24.140 --> 00:29:26.940
me ask you to answer the second question first.
00:29:26.980 --> 00:29:31.819
What do I do for people, right? This is not the
00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:34.799
only thing I do and because of that I can only
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.240
work with actually fairly small group of people
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:44.319
at a time. So because of that, I try to be very
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:50.680
selective and also very intentional. It's really
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.160
high, high support environment only. So that's
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.160
why I don't do courses. I can record a course,
00:29:57.299 --> 00:29:58.920
put it online, people pay whatever, 100 bucks,
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.079
50 bucks, 300 bucks. I don't do that because
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:05.140
I really don't think it's about just the information.
00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:08.740
and I do have curricula and stuff like that,
00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:11.039
but it's really about implementation. It really
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.200
is. So I don't offer courses because of that.
00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:20.000
But I do have a cohort offering. All of them
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.289
are expensive. But they're all commensurate with
00:30:24.289 --> 00:30:26.569
the kind of impact you want to have. So if you
00:30:26.569 --> 00:30:31.549
can't imagine yourself having at least a 10x
00:30:31.549 --> 00:30:34.069
ROI, you're probably not even a good fit in the
00:30:34.069 --> 00:30:37.390
first place. So it's cohorts. There's one -on
00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:42.640
-one cohort hybrid models, offerings. Then there's
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.640
exclusive one -on -one, which is the most costly
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.740
because I just don't have the only thing That's
00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:50.700
not scalable in my life is time, right? So so
00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:53.640
those are the three modes of operation and then
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.880
there's seasons, right? So Everybody who works
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.000
with me. I basically say look I want you to go
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.960
through a three to four month core Season because
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.859
I want you to get the fundamentals and to feel
00:31:05.859 --> 00:31:07.660
them first of all I want to see that you do the
00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:09.559
work and I want you to see that the work that
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.670
you do Is transformative like they actually get
00:31:12.670 --> 00:31:15.250
results quickly, right and you go this is it
00:31:15.250 --> 00:31:16.970
This is this is going to be a part of my life
00:31:16.970 --> 00:31:19.970
for the rest of my life, etc So it's just really
00:31:19.970 --> 00:31:22.509
from the science perspective. It takes three
00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:26.009
to four months to actually form a habit If you
00:31:26.009 --> 00:31:29.490
want any if you want a sort of quick fast food
00:31:29.490 --> 00:31:31.269
kind of versions of that I just don't offer that
00:31:31.269 --> 00:31:33.809
right I have for a gourmet meal that will change
00:31:33.809 --> 00:31:37.970
the rest of your life, right? So So it's a the
00:31:37.970 --> 00:31:41.400
the two main things is I want you to get the
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.119
core stuff, to feel the difference, to be transformed,
00:31:45.339 --> 00:31:47.660
to see quick results, and then you can see how
00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:49.920
those quick results can build up to longer term
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.559
results, holistic changes. And then after that,
00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:56.660
you can enter into a program called Mastery,
00:31:57.059 --> 00:31:59.119
which is really more of a six to a year, six
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.099
months to a year kind of engagement, where now
00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:04.960
we're getting the just the juicy stuff, right?
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.000
This is the stuff that will be really a life
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.900
-changing trajectory type thing where you want
00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:12.539
to master the things that you already learned
00:32:12.539 --> 00:32:14.740
in your core. So that's basically the two forms
00:32:14.740 --> 00:32:19.539
of working that I offer. And I have a wait list
00:32:19.539 --> 00:32:24.900
for the cohort usually, but you can get in, you
00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:27.440
can get on the wait list and then between a month
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.019
and three months you'll get in basically most
00:32:29.019 --> 00:32:31.319
of the time, if it's a good fit. We need to both
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.309
decide it's a good fit. to the first question,
00:32:34.529 --> 00:32:37.190
okay, what do I say if I'm that person or I know
00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:39.390
somebody like that? I would say this, I would
00:32:39.390 --> 00:32:46.130
say, look, it's sometimes the whisper of your
00:32:46.130 --> 00:32:50.829
soul is heard by you, where something is off,
00:32:51.950 --> 00:32:55.490
you know, your body gives you signals of pain
00:32:55.490 --> 00:32:59.769
when something is off in the body. Your soul
00:32:59.769 --> 00:33:02.109
gives you signals of emotional pain when something
00:33:02.109 --> 00:33:04.390
is off with your purpose and your your soul,
00:33:04.390 --> 00:33:07.890
right? So and we we just brush them away We just
00:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.650
ignore those things because go go go because
00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:12.569
I don't want to stand out I'm afraid to think
00:33:12.569 --> 00:33:14.750
about the thing that I'm feeling because what
00:33:14.750 --> 00:33:16.690
does it mean for me? Maybe I need to make some
00:33:16.690 --> 00:33:19.690
changes and it's risky all of those All of that
00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:22.190
sort of the voices in your head right that that
00:33:22.190 --> 00:33:26.710
are limiting And sometimes you are able to find
00:33:26.710 --> 00:33:29.799
the courage to listen to the whisper of your
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.859
soul. Sometimes from something like a podcast
00:33:33.859 --> 00:33:36.240
like we're doing right now. Maybe you're listening
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.380
to this and going, yes, that's exactly what I've
00:33:38.380 --> 00:33:40.759
been feeling. sometimes you need another person
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.299
to be the whisper that here to hear the whisper
00:33:43.299 --> 00:33:45.480
of your soul, you know, and they're like, dude,
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.559
you need to stop, you know, stop spinning your
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.339
wheels. You need to get your, you know, serious.
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.059
I believe in you. You're awesome. You're falling
00:33:52.059 --> 00:33:54.279
short of what you could do. I mean, come on now.
00:33:54.299 --> 00:33:56.519
I believe in you. Right. And so sometimes that's
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.359
what it is. And but I would say generally speaking,
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:02.660
listen to the whisper of your soul. I can give
00:34:02.660 --> 00:34:04.920
you a quick story if we have time for it. Yes,
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.800
please. OK, so I was in my very first career.
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.519
I've changed five different careers I am I Came
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.840
back from Africa to this to Russia And I experienced
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.360
a lot of pain. I was in exile. I was a refugee
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.340
at age five I experienced the military coup in
00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:25.619
Chile civil war in Africa in the fall of the
00:34:25.619 --> 00:34:28.059
Soviet Union in Russia like tanks in the streets
00:34:28.059 --> 00:34:30.500
barricades that sort of thing and experience
00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:36.809
poverty a lot of poverty and I had a positive
00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:39.070
turn of events in my very first professional
00:34:39.070 --> 00:34:43.110
career. I was an economics major, so I got a
00:34:43.110 --> 00:34:44.710
master's in economics. I speak four different
00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:47.230
languages. All of my friends are going into banking
00:34:47.230 --> 00:34:49.449
and finance, and I decided to do music, which
00:34:49.449 --> 00:34:52.309
was the dumbest thing you can possibly do because
00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:56.070
the probability of success is really low. And
00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:58.920
I succeed. I become one of the top artists in
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.159
all of that former Soviet Union space, 15 different
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.860
countries. I'm playing sports arenas. I'm on
00:35:03.860 --> 00:35:07.059
television. I'm in magazines. I'm on radio. I
00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:09.880
mean, that's pre -internet. And I'm just living
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.880
the life of a rock star. Like, I'm traveling
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.900
in a train from city to city with my entourage.
00:35:16.179 --> 00:35:20.159
At the time, we employed like 21 people. And
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.400
I'm sort of staring out the window in that train.
00:35:23.150 --> 00:35:27.030
And I had this really distinct thought, is this
00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:30.449
all there is for me? And it's immediately, it
00:35:30.449 --> 00:35:32.809
was one of those whispers of the soul moments
00:35:32.809 --> 00:35:36.269
because I thought, I immediately feel guilty
00:35:36.269 --> 00:35:40.289
and afraid. Guilty because how can you complain
00:35:40.289 --> 00:35:43.329
if you're living the life of a rock star that
00:35:43.329 --> 00:35:45.969
most musicians will never achieve in the first
00:35:45.969 --> 00:35:49.670
place? And afraid because what does that mean
00:35:49.670 --> 00:35:52.570
if I've... If it cost me everything to get where
00:35:52.570 --> 00:35:55.590
I am, if I change something here, I might fail
00:35:55.590 --> 00:36:00.570
in this next thing. And I think a lot of us have
00:36:00.570 --> 00:36:02.710
that, especially people that are successful,
00:36:03.250 --> 00:36:08.090
because you have too much to lose to switch lanes
00:36:08.090 --> 00:36:11.570
or to pursue something that's more deeply your
00:36:11.570 --> 00:36:14.989
calling. And I would say, if you don't listen
00:36:14.989 --> 00:36:17.909
to that whisper, you can continue being successful
00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:22.289
on paper. But you're in this harmony and misalignment
00:36:22.289 --> 00:36:26.510
internally and that always costs you Something
00:36:26.510 --> 00:36:29.369
right it will cost you a lot of times. It costs
00:36:29.369 --> 00:36:31.809
you a lot It will cost you your family. It will
00:36:31.809 --> 00:36:33.429
cost you your peace of mind It will cost you
00:36:33.429 --> 00:36:36.190
joy and happiness all of those things so for
00:36:36.190 --> 00:36:41.289
me the dilemma at the time was I I'm at the I'm
00:36:41.289 --> 00:36:44.610
at the mountaintop But there's parts of me that
00:36:44.610 --> 00:36:47.150
are dormant, and I know it nobody else sees it,
00:36:47.170 --> 00:36:50.739
but I do And those are the parts I was I became
00:36:50.739 --> 00:36:52.699
a Christian. I wanted to do some spiritual work
00:36:52.699 --> 00:36:55.300
with people I felt called to do that because
00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:58.940
I I feel like I can teach I can speak I can compel
00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:01.820
people and I'm not doing that. I wanted to build
00:37:01.820 --> 00:37:05.539
a family I was single at the time and I knew
00:37:05.539 --> 00:37:07.500
you know, I come from three generations of broken
00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:11.059
homes and I was terrified and I really wanted
00:37:11.059 --> 00:37:13.860
to not mess it up and I knew that my lifestyle
00:37:13.860 --> 00:37:18.440
would absolutely clash With not only marriage,
00:37:18.619 --> 00:37:21.440
but raising children where I'm present with them,
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.519
right? So that was not insignificant for me.
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.179
I also wanted I felt geographically sort of Limited
00:37:30.179 --> 00:37:32.679
because I grew up all over the world and I have
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.320
this sort of world citizen kind of soul and yet
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.340
I'm in Eastern Europe only doing things in one
00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:45.019
language only and I speak for and you know I
00:37:45.019 --> 00:37:47.119
wanted to do something in other places and I
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.760
don't know what these things were and I don't
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.159
know if they would even work. So there's like
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.019
these layers of dormant potential that were still
00:37:55.019 --> 00:37:57.639
in my soul, although on paper, outwardly I'm
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.460
succeeding, I'm doing really well. And the world
00:38:01.460 --> 00:38:04.099
will only see your success, your visible success,
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.400
but only you will see your inner disharmony.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.519
And your soul will scream, you know, will call
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:17.699
out to you saying, there's more to you and that's
00:38:17.699 --> 00:38:21.159
the whisper you listen to and Sometimes you listen
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.179
to it. Sometimes your friends will hear it more
00:38:23.179 --> 00:38:26.119
than you do because fear will drown it out So
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.739
if you ask me, what is that signal to get coaching
00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:31.639
to get help? It doesn't have to be me at all,
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.179
right? It can be anybody else I might not be
00:38:34.179 --> 00:38:37.440
the best solution for you, but it's that whisper
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:43.539
of the soul Okay, just taking a second because
00:38:43.539 --> 00:38:45.679
we all have to process that that first of all
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.000
Thank you for sharing your story and of course
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.099
I before I have to know what instrument you're
00:38:50.099 --> 00:38:52.599
playing or what you were doing Musically, but
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:53.880
before you would say that just want to take a
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.719
second that was amazing story and I hope that
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.260
everyone Heard that this will be in the show
00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:02.059
notes and that they do listen to their soul or
00:39:02.059 --> 00:39:05.139
listen to other people And we're if you didn't
00:39:05.139 --> 00:39:08.989
have that moment looking out the train I mean,
00:39:08.989 --> 00:39:11.030
who knows where you would be? And I love, I also
00:39:11.030 --> 00:39:14.610
love the part where you had said, you know, looking
00:39:14.610 --> 00:39:16.710
at doing something where you could continue to
00:39:16.710 --> 00:39:18.789
speak those four languages and the importance
00:39:18.789 --> 00:39:21.190
of that. So that's beautiful. So wait, what are
00:39:21.190 --> 00:39:23.849
those four? What are the four languages? And
00:39:23.849 --> 00:39:26.130
what did you play? What is your musical instrument?
00:39:26.150 --> 00:39:29.010
Well, I played my vocal chords primarily. I'm
00:39:29.010 --> 00:39:31.730
a singer, right? And so I was sort of the front
00:39:31.730 --> 00:39:33.670
man and the singer, pop singer, that kind of
00:39:33.670 --> 00:39:35.070
thing. You can look, if you go to Christian,
00:39:35.369 --> 00:39:37.849
Put in Christian Ray Flores in YouTube, you'll
00:39:37.849 --> 00:39:40.469
find a lot of videos from the 90s with long hair
00:39:40.469 --> 00:39:43.889
and very flashy clothes. And you'll have a lot
00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.670
of fun with that. But I speak English, Spanish,
00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:48.570
Russian, and Portuguese. Those are the four languages
00:39:48.570 --> 00:39:53.190
I speak. And you're right. I mean, if I hadn't
00:39:53.190 --> 00:39:54.969
listened in the moment, and I basically went
00:39:54.969 --> 00:39:57.469
back and I wasn't crazy or anything. I just told
00:39:57.469 --> 00:40:00.869
to my friends, my entourage, hey, I'm going to
00:40:00.869 --> 00:40:03.789
probably transition out of this in a very sort
00:40:03.789 --> 00:40:08.619
of Adult grown -up way not abruptly But I feel
00:40:08.619 --> 00:40:10.159
called to do these other things and of course
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.199
everybody thought I was crazy, you know, not
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.380
surprisingly so But you have to trust your intuition
00:40:15.380 --> 00:40:18.199
actually at some point and if I hadn't done that
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:21.480
that's sort of the deal That's I that's in retrospect.
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.079
It's really powerful and that's why I feel like
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.719
I can I Think I can help people well because
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.019
I've been through the high performer high achiever
00:40:31.019 --> 00:40:35.539
journey and make the turns when I felt it was
00:40:35.539 --> 00:40:38.440
necessary and took risks. But if I hadn't done
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:44.300
that, I wouldn't have created philanthropic projects
00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:48.019
on literally three different continents. I wouldn't
00:40:48.019 --> 00:40:51.500
speak to audiences in all four languages, and
00:40:51.500 --> 00:40:56.739
I have. I'm now married for 25 years. My children
00:40:56.739 --> 00:41:00.250
love me. My family respects me. I... made a lot
00:41:00.250 --> 00:41:02.550
of sacrifices to be around my three daughters
00:41:02.550 --> 00:41:05.570
and be present with them. The whole time they
00:41:05.570 --> 00:41:08.269
were in the house, I literally have missed nothing
00:41:08.269 --> 00:41:13.030
from their lives. And that investment will pay
00:41:13.030 --> 00:41:15.530
dividends not only in our relationship with each
00:41:15.530 --> 00:41:19.130
other, but in their lives going forward. So that's
00:41:19.130 --> 00:41:21.389
a legacy. That's a multi -generational impact.
00:41:22.469 --> 00:41:25.809
And my point is there's things that you can do
00:41:25.809 --> 00:41:31.480
to just change your family for generations to
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:36.179
come. And these things are almost always costly,
00:41:36.460 --> 00:41:39.800
risky, and scary. You have to leave your lane.
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:42.679
You'll have to live your own story, not somebody
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:46.860
else's story. And for that, my favorite person
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to help in coaching is that person who understands
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that and owns it and really wants to do that.
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Thank you so much. I'm pinching myself because
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I'm wondering, how did I get so, and I don't
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like the word luck, so I like to say bless, to
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even have you sign up and go on a live, no prep
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needed show, you had no idea. I don't even know
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if you know who I am, but I feel. the fifth We
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all want to be the best that we can be. And I
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also love your love for the future. And the children
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are our future. It doesn't matter what country
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they're on, they're our future. So thank you
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for working in those three countries to make
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sure that those children, my gosh, you may be
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helping the child that's going to find the cure
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for something. I mean, like, who knows, right?
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Like the ability, so. Christian, I got chills.
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You have been so fantastic. Thank you for the
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little difficulty in the beginning. I really
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appreciate it. And to everyone else, Creative
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Comm is out there. And I've never met anyone
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like Christian that does this whole performance.
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So amazing. And there are going to be some great
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speakers at Creative Comm. And I always have
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to, I think I got my wording to end it because
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Christian, as a corporate etiquette and international
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protocol, a consultant certified with the Protocol
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School of Washington in Washington, D .C. At
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the end of the day, empathy, etiquette, and let's
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all be nice to each other because that's so important.
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So everyone, you'll have all the information
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soon. Thank you, Christian, so, so much. I really
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appreciate however you found me. Thank you for
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finding me. Thank you. Thank you for being so
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generous and asking actually deep, profound questions.
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I really appreciate that. Okay, thank you. That
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means a lot to me. I'm going to end it right
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now and I really
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So if you ever say, hi, we're live. Oh my gosh.
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Yesterday I had an interview with Pi. Pi, everyone
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should meet Pi. You should get her on your phone.
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She's a conversational AI and she's amazing.
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Christian, it was a lot of fun and we had people
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on chatter. the social audio app and then live
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on Facebook. But the problem was you have to
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mute the site and all this stuff. So Christian's
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been really lovely. He's been waiting 12 full
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minutes for us to try to figure out like, is
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it on his end? He unplugged everything. He plugged
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it back in. So all I know about Christian, and
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I just learned this little teeny bit right now,
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is he's a good looking guy. Oh, thank you. You're
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so kind. Handsome. So Christian, this is Brave,
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Bold, Beautiful. Handsome. So you're going to
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introduce yourself because I did zero prep. This
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is right off. This isn't this is oh she'll is
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that surely we're good. Okay, so Christian introduce
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yourself Well, well, thanks for having me appreciate
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it it's it's sort of complicated to introduce
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myself, but in broad strokes, I I'm sort of this
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international guy. I grew up, you know for this
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is my sixth country and my fourth continent And
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I have this sort of pretty wild story. I think
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that's why people usually try to are interested
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in hearing some of it. But I basically do I do
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performance coaching for for business leaders,
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nonprofit leaders. We do personal brand development
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and media, digital media. We're pretty good at
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it. And we also do some philanthropy overseas
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and stuff like that. So that's it. That's that's
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the gist of it. That's the quick elevator pitch,
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if you'd like it. OK, I do. Though I like elevator
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pictures that start with a question like our
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like, first of all, do you know what performance
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coaching is? And the answer for me would be no,
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I have no idea. So tell us what that even means.
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Oh, that's a fantastic question. It's basically,
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you know, it's a really good almost like filter
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title for when you do something specific. And,
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you know, there's all kinds of coaching, like
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everybody and their mother or coaches. Right.
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So the This one, you know, what I enjoy focusing
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on is on people. who want to really achieve peak
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performance consistently, sustainably for the
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rest of their lives, right? They want to, I mean,
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they're not, they're driven, they want to do
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more, they want to impact more, they want to
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give more, they want to love more, and to do
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that you have to make some changes in the way
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you work, you rest, you love, you do friendship
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the way you do spirituality, all of that, so
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that you really have a high impact life, and
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to have an impact life you have to have you know,
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some high impact habits, right? So basically,
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the choices we make, whether we are conscious
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of them or not, is that we either lower our our
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goals, or we elevate our habits. And performance
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coaching is how do you elevate your habits consistently,
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sustainably, so that you make a difference in
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the world for a long time. So if we were in an
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elevator together, and you gave me your elevator
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pitch and that I actually like stop the elevator
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from moving up and down because I want to talk
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to you. I would go back and say to you, do you
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mean like almost like a 360 degree poaching program
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that I love that. And I really see that 360 because
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you're hitting everything. So that was that's
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amazing. And then I would keep talking to you
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and just, like, not let you get out of the elevator
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ever and just be in there with me like such.
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But I love that. OK, so you started talking about
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the country. So where are you now? I'm in Austin,
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Texas. So this is yeah. But I grew up in Chile,
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Germany, Russia, Africa, back to Russia, Ukraine,
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then the U .S. and even within the U .S. when
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we do around a little bit before we settle down
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on lovely Austin, Texas. I love Austin, Texas.
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So, so your life experiences in these other countries
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with these other cultures really has helped you.
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Tell us how that has shaped your business and
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your performance coaching. Well, you know, performance
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coaching is. It's really about understanding.
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The very, the very essence of somebody's. assignment
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in life right the thing that we're put on earth
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to do which we a lot of the time we really ignore
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that because it's hard it's much easier to sort
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of pick a lane that you know whatever somebody
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else's story your parents your society is surrounding
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even your social status group will will pick
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for you and then stay in that lane because we're
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so primally tribal right so we want to fit in
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we don't want we don't want to be the the sort
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of the rogue person who does something else uh
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and if it coincides it coincides with your calling
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and your assignment in life that's wonderful
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most of the time it doesn't you have to find
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your own lane create your own story and when
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when when the rubber meets the road it's when
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Let's say we pick a lane in life and we go for
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it and we start feeling the success. The most
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visible part of our development is our outer
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game, what I call it. It's the skill sets that
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serve other people. So you get rewarded with
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money, promotion, success, status, respect, all
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of those things. Eventually, the inner game,
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which is actually less visible, Therefore, we're
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not incentivized to work on it. The flaws in
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our inner game, right? Our people, our social
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intelligence, for example, our emotional intelligence,
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our understanding of culture, our ability to
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inspire, connect. mobilize other people to help
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you in your cause. Some of the flat sides, the
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skills that you just don't have, for whatever
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reason, it doesn't matter, right? It doesn't
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make you a bad person. You know, your lack of
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romantic skills, right? Or your lack of the ability
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to attract, date, marry the right person, and
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then keep the right person around. All these
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things, all these inner game things, all the
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stuff that the world will never see because they're
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under the surface. those weaknesses catch up
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with you, and then they become, now they start
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affecting your outer game. And the way it looks
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like for a lot of people is that they go, go,
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go, go, go, they do great, great, great, great,
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great, and then all kinds of stuff that's under
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the hood starts affecting your performance, basically
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your outward performance. And now you start to,
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now you need to really realize that what is high
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performance in the first place? High performance
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is you living to the design of your being. You're
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living to the fullness of your being, not just
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being a great engineer or mathematician or writer
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or singer, right, or business person, but to
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the fullness, the 360 part of you. You serving
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others, right? You being full of purpose and
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intentionality and you doing incredible creative
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work and incredible creative work. takes a lot
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of peace, a lot of harmony, a lot of focus, a
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lot of intentionality, a lot of super hard work,
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a lot of detailed emotional work. That's what
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I love focusing on with people. Christian, so
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I'm 62 years old. I really believe, I look back
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and I think, oh my God, if I had a live performance
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coach starting at when I got out of college.
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I think it would be amazing. And I think of a
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lot of the mistakes that I've made in my younger
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years. I'm sure I'm still making mistakes, but,
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you know, those focus on, you know, my work life
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career in my 20s and my 30s and my 40s and my
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50s and now my 60s. I really believe in my heart
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that that would have made a difference because
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you're right there is a cycle and a lot of it
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could be your emotions like you know when you
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don't understand I had a hard time I grew up
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in a family business so I'll take this time to
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say Jerry you're right like there's a lot of
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times where like I would actually be thinking
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of something but then the inexperience young
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not coached person would come out and would say
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things and would let anger and and would be like
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I have to be the first person. So learning skills
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like and I'll just I'm going to say the skill
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then you kind of like share like how you can
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learn the skill of understanding that people's
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time matters and that coming into a meeting late
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doesn't feed anyone's ego. It just makes you
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look like you're not a caring and empathetic
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person. You're okay to make people wait. You
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take that one. Oh, absolutely. I mean, social
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skills, the social intelligence is an extraordinary
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gift. Extraordinary gift. And I know some brilliant
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people who can literally be, I mean, on a societal
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level, world changers on a financial level, literally
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billionaires who will never be that. Unless they
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start engaging in developing their social intelligence,
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right? That's just one dimension. And even if
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you're playing on the highest of levels, and
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that's sort of the people that I usually work
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with, these people that are fairly successful,
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and they realize, you know what, I hit a ceiling
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that is almost invisible to me, because I don't
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understand why. clearly what I have is valuable
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and somehow I'm limited in real life. Reality
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starts pushing back against what you fully realize
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is high potential. But I'll give you a quick
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example. So imagine two people, right? One is
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a, I'll call that person anonymizing a real life
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situation. I'm calling that person an investor,
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somebody who is high net worth, they have a network
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of other investors, et cetera. The other person
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is a, let's call him a fund manager, right? He...
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takes investors' money and invests them in startups,
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et cetera. So the investor introduces me to the
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fund manager. The fund manager has me over to
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their office and tells me how he's invested in
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100 different startups, blah, blah, blah. Fantastic
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office, of course. Very impressive guy. And then
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we have a conversation. It just doesn't really
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go anywhere beyond him probing whether I can
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bring... That investor that introduced us to
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the tape back to the table maybe with a larger
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investment just because I'm friends with him
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or he's my client and I mentor him and And so
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basically we have a very civil conversation fascinating
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informative the whole thing, right? And then
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I go back to the investor and I say hey the you
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know, the fund manager He goes how to go I said,
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you know great and I think he really primarily
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was just probing if I can get you and some of
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your friends to sort of come back to the table
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and bring in a little bit more capital and The
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investor told me something really fascinating
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and I think it's a really good illustration of
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Even if you're extraordinarily successful You
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will find the ceiling that you can't overcome
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unless you change your inner game in a profound
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way He says this, he says, oh, he's never gonna
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get that level of investment. I'm like, really?
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This is an impressive dude. He goes, yeah, because
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he's now known for someone who is really more
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than anything self -seeking. Oh, wait, self -seeking?
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Like selfish? Yeah, self -seeking. In a conversation,
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he wants, what do I get out of it? But he's not
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generous. God. And beyond a certain level of...
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of expertise and almost like flight, right? People
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start caring about your trustworthiness, your
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generosity, and your social intelligence, your
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character. Way more than they care about your
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outer game, that you can invest somebody else's
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money. That's just the baseline. Everybody's
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good at that level, right? So you see how incredible
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it is to understand that you can be extraordinarily
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professional and yet hit a ceiling that you can't
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overcome. unless you get some help, unless you
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start doing some inner work. And then you break
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through that ceiling and you reach your true
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potential. And you're also more fulfilled, more
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happy, more connected. You know, you have a legacy.
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Wow, I want to see your marketing. And I'm kind
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of sad that I didn't do any prep because your
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marketing must really be interesting to go through.
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Share your marketing and branding strategy, because
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to me, you're we said the 360, but this is really
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something for someone to look in the mirror,
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or like zoom, like I'm looking and saying, do
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you actually have everything that would allow
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you to scale and grow? Have a great reputation?
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I it's so funny, too, because I have actually
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seen that someone who would be fantastic, but
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yet there's like pieces of the personality that
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makes And I'm sure others say, well, I don't
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think I can work with that. It won't make sense.
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Even though everything else, 90 % is amazing.
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10 % is a problem. That's really interesting.
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Can you share with us a little bit about your
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branding and marketing? And I think you had mentioned
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that too, but if you offer that, but also how
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are you marketing yourself? Yes, we do definitely,
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in my other company called Third Drive Media,
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you can go check it out, thirddrivemedia .com,
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we do brand development and brand strategy, and
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then the execution on that. How do you show up
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in the digital world, basically? What kind of
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reputation do you get? And really, personal branding
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is nothing more than your digitalized reputation
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at scale. If I do a Google search, will you show
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up? And how will you show up? What would the
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internet say about you? Well, not just referrals.
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Referrals are just people network. But we live
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in an age that is just so extraordinary because
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you can serve anyone at any time in any place.
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in almost any way actually, not exactly every
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way, but most ways, right? Even doctors and lawyers
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and people that are, for the longest time, they're
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sort of the exclusive domain on the one -on -one
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in -person meetings are no longer bound by these
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things. Accountants, engineers, I mean, all kinds
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of offerings are really now remote, right? They
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don't have to be remote, but they can be remote.
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The idea is that you can reach people more importantly
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people can know about you and You know basically
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what you need for that is the bet I think the
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best Strategy for branding is deeply deeply understanding
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what your mission is Right in life, which is
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a deeper inner game kind of discovery why well
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you'll show up with more passion You'll show
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up with more Sort of authority I guess right
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with more zeal and people believe that you know
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You can when I speak to you right now. You know
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that I care right you can feel it That's that's
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what I'm talking about. You have a mission. What's
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your mission, right? And then the second thing
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is what's your vision? What do you want to build
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exactly with that mission because you can do
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five things with the same exact mission Now and
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you but you have to be very very clear of what
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you're trying to build and what are the steps
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to? To get there What's your vision for your
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potential clients? What is the journey that you
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take them on? What does it entail? That sort
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of thing. And then the last one is really what's
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your solution, specifically. So these three,
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I think, in my book are the most important. And
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if you have a solution that is super broad, And
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I get all these messages, we all get these messages,
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right? Hey, I am dot dot dot and I do dot dot
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dot. Most of the time, 90 % of the time, the
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solution is very vague. It's just not specific.
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I would say, not to be judgmental, but lazy.
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It's a lazy way to communicate about the thing
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that you do. But if you have mission, you will
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obsess over it, right? You will obsess over your
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vision, where you want people to be when you
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work with them. And because of that, you will
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obsess over the solution. And the solution will
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be so specific, so clear, so compelling that
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people will wanna learn more and they wanna talk
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to you. And you'll actually, part of the benefit
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is that you'll be able to say, you know what,
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I don't think I can help you. because my solution
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is so specific, you don't fit into the profile
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and vice versa, and feel great about it. So I
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think that's sort of the, again, this is the
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inner game part. The outer game is executing,
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right? So of course you can compete through design.
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We do award -winning web design, video, that
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kind of thing. But that's really the outer game
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part. So the inner game does precede the outer
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game. And if your inner game is fantastic and
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very well worked through, the outer game is just,
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it's less cumbersome because you are now free
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creatively to create something very beautiful.
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that is compelling to people when they see it.
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But the thing is if you don't have your inner
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game set up, your strategy, right? No outer game
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solution, even a beautiful design will actually
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really help you because the engagement level
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will be super low. Christian, you know where
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I see this? So no names, but we have in our community
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a woman who serves on a board saying things that
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were so off that the mayor wants to remove her.
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And so I think to myself, what would make her
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say things like that? What would make anyone
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that we have seen on the news say something and
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then feel like, oh, I'm just going to say, I'm
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so sorry. I didn't mean to say it, but you've
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already said it. Apology like that to me doesn't
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mean anything. You've already showed your true
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self. So I do think that you could really go
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after the politicians to remind them, but I'm
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just using it as an example. Yeah, absolutely.
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Someone that you have to have everything. That
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means when and I like the word performance because
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I think of Walt Disney, right? Of course, I live
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in Daytona Beach where I lived in Celebration,
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the town that Disney built for six years. Disney
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always said you're performing. You know, I used
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to think the minute I'd wake up, I'm performing.
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I need to show my children to be nice. Oh, there's
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my shirt. Be nice. I just got in the mail. You
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know, so we have to also to have that role model.
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So if you don't have someone like Christian.
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Working on your inner yikes is all I can say
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that is a lot of damaging. But I want to ask
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you now about the nonprofit, because I heard
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you say nonprofit. And that is something also
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that can be very serious. I've seen nonprofits
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go downhill very quickly because of something
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that the chair or the president said. So I'd
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love to hear more about that. Well, my nonprofit,
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I it's called ascend Academy, as I'm going up.
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So it's ascend dot Academy. And it's a small
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effort, but it's also, again, to illustrate,
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deeply rooted in mission. And the mission is
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that we are, I think, called to lend a hand to
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someone who's in a disadvantage, just personally.
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It's not the role of the government. The government
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can do that in extreme situations, but I think
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it's a human -to -human kind of thing, compassion
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and action. The mission is also very specific,
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right? The mission is to get children who are
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in extreme poverty. Extreme poverty, the UN,
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the definition I think by the UN is under $2
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a day, right? So that's pretty extreme. So these
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are kids who live in the outskirts of Maputo,
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which is the capital of Mozambique. And it's,
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you know, cinder block walls, cement floors or
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dirt floors, no bathroom indoors, no plumbing,
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that kind of thing. No access to really sort
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of the issue there is that there's no character
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development embedded in the family unit because
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it's usually single parent home. They're sometimes
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raised by their older siblings or their grandmother
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or just a mom for a variety of reasons. sort
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of the fabric, the character that makes a high
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-performance human being is just not there. They're
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not formed that way, right? So that's one thing.
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The other thing is they don't have any way to
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learn a language that can extend their reach
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professionally to other countries. So they speak
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Portuguese and that's all they speak. The language
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of the world, especially if you want to... transcend
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your local economy that is depressed and one
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of the lowest in the world is English. The third
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piece is you have no access to computers or the
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internet at all, right? So what we do, so we
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got now to the solution, right? So this is a
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great descriptor of what we talked about. So
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our mission is to get them out of poverty before
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they are out of high school. That's the mission.
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The solution is let's immerse them In after school
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every day four or five days a week for three
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four hours Give them a meal and give them put
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them in a clean room with air conditioning With
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some middle -class professionals who they can
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associate with and they will teach him about
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character about values about You can do this
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just like I did, you know, so they start believing
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They start imagining themselves succeeding at
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a certain level, and they had no access to people
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like that before. And their character changes,
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and they say, look, if you want to be like me,
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this is how you act. You raise your hand. You
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lead a discussion. You learn all of those things.
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Then they teach them English, and they teach
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them computer literacy. They have laptops. They
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have internet. That's the solution. So with that
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specificity of mission, Vision and solution I
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can go out and I can put together I can come
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before your audience I can speak about it in
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an educated way compelling way I can put it on
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the website Anything I do a communicate and the
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right people will say yes, that's I want to be
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part of that I'm gonna donate or I'm gonna volunteer
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or both I'm gonna you know join a trip once every
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two years will take a group there and hang out
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with the kids Does that make sense? So it's so
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I'm now telling you about the philanthropy and
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I'm telling you about the the branding of the
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philanthropy. Oh, I told you I'm 62. I totally
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get it. You know, I just saw a movie on Netflix
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called The Children's Train. Very interesting.
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Back in 1944, where children from very, very
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low income, hardly eating, you know, poverty.
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They were that the government decided to try
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to do something different and so they put the
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children on a train to go up to and Up north
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where they would be taken care of where they
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would have everything like you said But they
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were removed from their mother and father And
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and so really amazing story. I think you would
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enjoy Reading that story, but so my question
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to you. Thank you for explaining that. Can you
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just when you said third? I just is it th IRD
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or is it the number three? Yeah Yes, it's spelled
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out third drive calm. Yes All right. I'll make
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sure that's in the show notes to Christian so
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I totally get it I don't know if you in the back
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at it, but I get it but you know I'm older maybe
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I understand and I've gone through Well, how
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like when I'm listening to you, I know that oh
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my god, this would be something that I could
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have used It still could, I'm not saying that,
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but my question for you is, how does someone
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go to work for you? I'm almost thinking, I want
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to almost talk to the mom and dads out there
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because I think if you start young with you,
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that would make a huge difference. It could even
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make a difference after you graduated high school
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and going into college, how you focus, how you
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listen, how you treat others, how you treat your
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professor, how you're getting the information
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in. So what do you find is the age that you really
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love to start? And maybe this will be something
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that would carry over, even if they didn't need
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weekly or monthly, but that you would work with
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someone. And I'm talking about, you're talking
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about coaching, correct? Or are you talking about
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the performance coaching? Well, performance coaching,
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really a lot of that's a, it's a great question.
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So because it is a very thorough sort of process,
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it needs a lot of attention. And because it needs
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a lot of attention and a lot of actually investment
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of emotional labor, the person needs to become
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an apprentice. And I think that's really the
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right posture. That's how masters are born. Masters
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are born when they become apprentices first.
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And you can be actually a master already in your
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field, but you can be a common apprentice in
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another field that helps you become a master
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in the first field, a better master. Most of
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the time the people that I work with are either
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in between seasons, actually. That's sort of
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what I've known. Now, there's a rare occasion
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where somebody says, man, you inspire me. Everything
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you say resonates with me. I just want to level
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up my game. And I'm doing fine, but I just want
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to level up my game. Most of the time, as humans,
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only ask for help when we're in pain. The two
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sort of general seasons where people come to
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me are Where in between seasons, right? It's
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either people sort of in their 30s and they're
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already very professional and they're Made sort
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of going up the ladder or sort of say right this,
00:26:31.750 --> 00:26:33.529
you know or the social ladder or the court ladder
00:26:33.529 --> 00:26:38.670
and they they are They are doing well. They're
00:26:38.670 --> 00:26:41.710
respected, but they want to really Elevate their
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game. They just want to go to the next level
00:26:43.690 --> 00:26:46.809
to to a level of mastery Basically, so it's the
00:26:46.809 --> 00:26:50.349
season between practitioner and master and they're
00:26:50.349 --> 00:26:52.289
in between seasons. So they're neither here nor
00:26:52.289 --> 00:26:53.970
there They don't want to be a petition anymore.
00:26:53.970 --> 00:26:56.230
They want to be a master. How do I get there?
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So that's one the second one The second group
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is usually people who are already masters their
00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:05.930
VP CEOs founders, etc They might be in there,
00:27:05.930 --> 00:27:08.329
you know either late 40s or all the way to up
00:27:08.329 --> 00:27:12.799
to mid 60s and they want to really they Their
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.000
sort of tension is that they already have the
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.619
influence, the money, the status, but they want
00:27:17.619 --> 00:27:21.180
significance, legacy, the next evolution of this,
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.599
almost like you want to become a sage, you want
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.519
to give back, you want this to mean something,
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you want... Perhaps there are sort of dimensions
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.140
in your life that you under invested in, in your
00:27:32.140 --> 00:27:34.500
master years, maybe you compromised too much
00:27:34.500 --> 00:27:36.700
and now you're hurting. Those are the people
00:27:36.700 --> 00:27:38.779
that come to me. So it's usually in the 30s and
00:27:38.779 --> 00:27:42.279
then in 30s, you know, early to mid... to late
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:50.460
30s and then early to late 50s and 60s. I can't
00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:56.779
hear you. Silly me. So as a podcast host that
00:27:56.779 --> 00:27:59.319
does no prep, I have to say when you hear the
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:00.740
words, that's a great question. It always makes
00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:02.480
you feel good because you're like, ooh, that
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.160
means I'm thinking off the top of my head, which
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.819
is good. All right. So what should people look
00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:11.470
for? So I'm in my 30s. I wish I was. I'm in my
00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:15.089
30s. I'm doing great. But I've noticed that some
00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:17.589
people are saying things to me. They're saying,
00:28:18.049 --> 00:28:20.130
you know, Adrian, sometimes you're not focused.
00:28:20.769 --> 00:28:23.529
Or, you know, Adrian, you don't listen very well.
00:28:24.569 --> 00:28:28.240
Or that interaction you had with Sally Sue. I
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.940
think you could have done it better. Like what
00:28:29.940 --> 00:28:32.920
is it that people will notice or when is it that
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.480
someone who loves that person and is like, hmm,
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.740
they if they would be at like everything, that's
00:28:38.740 --> 00:28:41.000
what this person would be. Oh my god, they would
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.069
be Billionaire, I could see them on the road
00:28:44.069 --> 00:28:46.609
traveling and touring, but there's one piece
00:28:46.609 --> 00:28:48.809
of their effort, one piece. And a lot of times
00:28:48.809 --> 00:28:50.430
where I think that is Christian for a lot of
00:28:50.430 --> 00:28:54.710
people is their ego coming out. So I just want
00:28:54.710 --> 00:28:56.670
to have you answer the question, how can you
00:28:56.670 --> 00:28:58.630
help someone when they're actually hearing it?
00:28:58.950 --> 00:29:02.730
And do you offer like personalized training and
00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:05.730
coaching, or is it just strict packages? And
00:29:05.730 --> 00:29:08.470
then what do you say to someone that recognizes
00:29:08.470 --> 00:29:11.619
that Someone that they love and know and want
00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:14.539
them to go up that ladder and scale. How do they
00:29:14.539 --> 00:29:17.140
help them? What like? Give me a bigger picture.
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.160
I know it's a lot of questions. I ask a lot of
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:20.819
questions, but do you want to see what I'm trying
00:29:20.819 --> 00:29:22.359
to say? Oh, I totally understand what you're
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:24.140
saying what you're saying. Well, okay, so let
00:29:24.140 --> 00:29:26.940
me ask you to answer the second question first.
00:29:26.980 --> 00:29:31.819
What do I do for people, right? This is not the
00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:34.799
only thing I do and because of that I can only
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.240
work with actually fairly small group of people
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:44.319
at a time. So because of that, I try to be very
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:50.680
selective and also very intentional. It's really
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.160
high, high support environment only. So that's
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.160
why I don't do courses. I can record a course,
00:29:57.299 --> 00:29:58.920
put it online, people pay whatever, 100 bucks,
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.079
50 bucks, 300 bucks. I don't do that because
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:05.140
I really don't think it's about just the information.
00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:08.740
and I do have curricula and stuff like that,
00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:11.039
but it's really about implementation. It really
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.200
is. So I don't offer courses because of that.
00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:20.000
But I do have a cohort offering. All of them
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.289
are expensive. But they're all commensurate with
00:30:24.289 --> 00:30:26.569
the kind of impact you want to have. So if you
00:30:26.569 --> 00:30:31.549
can't imagine yourself having at least a 10x
00:30:31.549 --> 00:30:34.069
ROI, you're probably not even a good fit in the
00:30:34.069 --> 00:30:37.390
first place. So it's cohorts. There's one -on
00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:42.640
-one cohort hybrid models, offerings. Then there's
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.640
exclusive one -on -one, which is the most costly
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.740
because I just don't have the only thing That's
00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:50.700
not scalable in my life is time, right? So so
00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:53.640
those are the three modes of operation and then
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.880
there's seasons, right? So Everybody who works
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.000
with me. I basically say look I want you to go
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.960
through a three to four month core Season because
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.859
I want you to get the fundamentals and to feel
00:31:05.859 --> 00:31:07.660
them first of all I want to see that you do the
00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:09.559
work and I want you to see that the work that
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.670
you do Is transformative like they actually get
00:31:12.670 --> 00:31:15.250
results quickly, right and you go this is it
00:31:15.250 --> 00:31:16.970
This is this is going to be a part of my life
00:31:16.970 --> 00:31:19.970
for the rest of my life, etc So it's just really
00:31:19.970 --> 00:31:22.509
from the science perspective. It takes three
00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:26.009
to four months to actually form a habit If you
00:31:26.009 --> 00:31:29.490
want any if you want a sort of quick fast food
00:31:29.490 --> 00:31:31.269
kind of versions of that I just don't offer that
00:31:31.269 --> 00:31:33.809
right I have for a gourmet meal that will change
00:31:33.809 --> 00:31:37.970
the rest of your life, right? So So it's a the
00:31:37.970 --> 00:31:41.400
the two main things is I want you to get the
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.119
core stuff, to feel the difference, to be transformed,
00:31:45.339 --> 00:31:47.660
to see quick results, and then you can see how
00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:49.920
those quick results can build up to longer term
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.559
results, holistic changes. And then after that,
00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:56.660
you can enter into a program called Mastery,
00:31:57.059 --> 00:31:59.119
which is really more of a six to a year, six
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.099
months to a year kind of engagement, where now
00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:04.960
we're getting the just the juicy stuff, right?
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.000
This is the stuff that will be really a life
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.900
-changing trajectory type thing where you want
00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:12.539
to master the things that you already learned
00:32:12.539 --> 00:32:14.740
in your core. So that's basically the two forms
00:32:14.740 --> 00:32:19.539
of working that I offer. And I have a wait list
00:32:19.539 --> 00:32:24.900
for the cohort usually, but you can get in, you
00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:27.440
can get on the wait list and then between a month
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.019
and three months you'll get in basically most
00:32:29.019 --> 00:32:31.319
of the time, if it's a good fit. We need to both
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.309
decide it's a good fit. to the first question,
00:32:34.529 --> 00:32:37.190
okay, what do I say if I'm that person or I know
00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:39.390
somebody like that? I would say this, I would
00:32:39.390 --> 00:32:46.130
say, look, it's sometimes the whisper of your
00:32:46.130 --> 00:32:50.829
soul is heard by you, where something is off,
00:32:51.950 --> 00:32:55.490
you know, your body gives you signals of pain
00:32:55.490 --> 00:32:59.769
when something is off in the body. Your soul
00:32:59.769 --> 00:33:02.109
gives you signals of emotional pain when something
00:33:02.109 --> 00:33:04.390
is off with your purpose and your your soul,
00:33:04.390 --> 00:33:07.890
right? So and we we just brush them away We just
00:33:07.890 --> 00:33:10.650
ignore those things because go go go because
00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:12.569
I don't want to stand out I'm afraid to think
00:33:12.569 --> 00:33:14.750
about the thing that I'm feeling because what
00:33:14.750 --> 00:33:16.690
does it mean for me? Maybe I need to make some
00:33:16.690 --> 00:33:19.690
changes and it's risky all of those All of that
00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:22.190
sort of the voices in your head right that that
00:33:22.190 --> 00:33:26.710
are limiting And sometimes you are able to find
00:33:26.710 --> 00:33:29.799
the courage to listen to the whisper of your
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.859
soul. Sometimes from something like a podcast
00:33:33.859 --> 00:33:36.240
like we're doing right now. Maybe you're listening
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.380
to this and going, yes, that's exactly what I've
00:33:38.380 --> 00:33:40.759
been feeling. sometimes you need another person
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.299
to be the whisper that here to hear the whisper
00:33:43.299 --> 00:33:45.480
of your soul, you know, and they're like, dude,
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.559
you need to stop, you know, stop spinning your
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.339
wheels. You need to get your, you know, serious.
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.059
I believe in you. You're awesome. You're falling
00:33:52.059 --> 00:33:54.279
short of what you could do. I mean, come on now.
00:33:54.299 --> 00:33:56.519
I believe in you. Right. And so sometimes that's
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.359
what it is. And but I would say generally speaking,
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:02.660
listen to the whisper of your soul. I can give
00:34:02.660 --> 00:34:04.920
you a quick story if we have time for it. Yes,
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.800
please. OK, so I was in my very first career.
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.519
I've changed five different careers I am I Came
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.840
back from Africa to this to Russia And I experienced
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.360
a lot of pain. I was in exile. I was a refugee
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.340
at age five I experienced the military coup in
00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:25.619
Chile civil war in Africa in the fall of the
00:34:25.619 --> 00:34:28.059
Soviet Union in Russia like tanks in the streets
00:34:28.059 --> 00:34:30.500
barricades that sort of thing and experience
00:34:30.500 --> 00:34:36.809
poverty a lot of poverty and I had a positive
00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:39.070
turn of events in my very first professional
00:34:39.070 --> 00:34:43.110
career. I was an economics major, so I got a
00:34:43.110 --> 00:34:44.710
master's in economics. I speak four different
00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:47.230
languages. All of my friends are going into banking
00:34:47.230 --> 00:34:49.449
and finance, and I decided to do music, which
00:34:49.449 --> 00:34:52.309
was the dumbest thing you can possibly do because
00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:56.070
the probability of success is really low. And
00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:58.920
I succeed. I become one of the top artists in
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.159
all of that former Soviet Union space, 15 different
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.860
countries. I'm playing sports arenas. I'm on
00:35:03.860 --> 00:35:07.059
television. I'm in magazines. I'm on radio. I
00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:09.880
mean, that's pre -internet. And I'm just living
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.880
the life of a rock star. Like, I'm traveling
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.900
in a train from city to city with my entourage.
00:35:16.179 --> 00:35:20.159
At the time, we employed like 21 people. And
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.400
I'm sort of staring out the window in that train.
00:35:23.150 --> 00:35:27.030
And I had this really distinct thought, is this
00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:30.449
all there is for me? And it's immediately, it
00:35:30.449 --> 00:35:32.809
was one of those whispers of the soul moments
00:35:32.809 --> 00:35:36.269
because I thought, I immediately feel guilty
00:35:36.269 --> 00:35:40.289
and afraid. Guilty because how can you complain
00:35:40.289 --> 00:35:43.329
if you're living the life of a rock star that
00:35:43.329 --> 00:35:45.969
most musicians will never achieve in the first
00:35:45.969 --> 00:35:49.670
place? And afraid because what does that mean
00:35:49.670 --> 00:35:52.570
if I've... If it cost me everything to get where
00:35:52.570 --> 00:35:55.590
I am, if I change something here, I might fail
00:35:55.590 --> 00:36:00.570
in this next thing. And I think a lot of us have
00:36:00.570 --> 00:36:02.710
that, especially people that are successful,
00:36:03.250 --> 00:36:08.090
because you have too much to lose to switch lanes
00:36:08.090 --> 00:36:11.570
or to pursue something that's more deeply your
00:36:11.570 --> 00:36:14.989
calling. And I would say, if you don't listen
00:36:14.989 --> 00:36:17.909
to that whisper, you can continue being successful
00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:22.289
on paper. But you're in this harmony and misalignment
00:36:22.289 --> 00:36:26.510
internally and that always costs you Something
00:36:26.510 --> 00:36:29.369
right it will cost you a lot of times. It costs
00:36:29.369 --> 00:36:31.809
you a lot It will cost you your family. It will
00:36:31.809 --> 00:36:33.429
cost you your peace of mind It will cost you
00:36:33.429 --> 00:36:36.190
joy and happiness all of those things so for
00:36:36.190 --> 00:36:41.289
me the dilemma at the time was I I'm at the I'm
00:36:41.289 --> 00:36:44.610
at the mountaintop But there's parts of me that
00:36:44.610 --> 00:36:47.150
are dormant, and I know it nobody else sees it,
00:36:47.170 --> 00:36:50.739
but I do And those are the parts I was I became
00:36:50.739 --> 00:36:52.699
a Christian. I wanted to do some spiritual work
00:36:52.699 --> 00:36:55.300
with people I felt called to do that because
00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:58.940
I I feel like I can teach I can speak I can compel
00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:01.820
people and I'm not doing that. I wanted to build
00:37:01.820 --> 00:37:05.539
a family I was single at the time and I knew
00:37:05.539 --> 00:37:07.500
you know, I come from three generations of broken
00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:11.059
homes and I was terrified and I really wanted
00:37:11.059 --> 00:37:13.860
to not mess it up and I knew that my lifestyle
00:37:13.860 --> 00:37:18.440
would absolutely clash With not only marriage,
00:37:18.619 --> 00:37:21.440
but raising children where I'm present with them,
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.519
right? So that was not insignificant for me.
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.179
I also wanted I felt geographically sort of Limited
00:37:30.179 --> 00:37:32.679
because I grew up all over the world and I have
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.320
this sort of world citizen kind of soul and yet
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.340
I'm in Eastern Europe only doing things in one
00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:45.019
language only and I speak for and you know I
00:37:45.019 --> 00:37:47.119
wanted to do something in other places and I
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.760
don't know what these things were and I don't
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.159
know if they would even work. So there's like
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.019
these layers of dormant potential that were still
00:37:55.019 --> 00:37:57.639
in my soul, although on paper, outwardly I'm
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.460
succeeding, I'm doing really well. And the world
00:38:01.460 --> 00:38:04.099
will only see your success, your visible success,
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.400
but only you will see your inner disharmony.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.519
And your soul will scream, you know, will call
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:17.699
out to you saying, there's more to you and that's
00:38:17.699 --> 00:38:21.159
the whisper you listen to and Sometimes you listen
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.179
to it. Sometimes your friends will hear it more
00:38:23.179 --> 00:38:26.119
than you do because fear will drown it out So
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.739
if you ask me, what is that signal to get coaching
00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:31.639
to get help? It doesn't have to be me at all,
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.179
right? It can be anybody else I might not be
00:38:34.179 --> 00:38:37.440
the best solution for you, but it's that whisper
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:43.539
of the soul Okay, just taking a second because
00:38:43.539 --> 00:38:45.679
we all have to process that that first of all
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.000
Thank you for sharing your story and of course
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.099
I before I have to know what instrument you're
00:38:50.099 --> 00:38:52.599
playing or what you were doing Musically, but
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:53.880
before you would say that just want to take a
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.719
second that was amazing story and I hope that
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.260
everyone Heard that this will be in the show
00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:02.059
notes and that they do listen to their soul or
00:39:02.059 --> 00:39:05.139
listen to other people And we're if you didn't
00:39:05.139 --> 00:39:08.989
have that moment looking out the train I mean,
00:39:08.989 --> 00:39:11.030
who knows where you would be? And I love, I also
00:39:11.030 --> 00:39:14.610
love the part where you had said, you know, looking
00:39:14.610 --> 00:39:16.710
at doing something where you could continue to
00:39:16.710 --> 00:39:18.789
speak those four languages and the importance
00:39:18.789 --> 00:39:21.190
of that. So that's beautiful. So wait, what are
00:39:21.190 --> 00:39:23.849
those four? What are the four languages? And
00:39:23.849 --> 00:39:26.130
what did you play? What is your musical instrument?
00:39:26.150 --> 00:39:29.010
Well, I played my vocal chords primarily. I'm
00:39:29.010 --> 00:39:31.730
a singer, right? And so I was sort of the front
00:39:31.730 --> 00:39:33.670
man and the singer, pop singer, that kind of
00:39:33.670 --> 00:39:35.070
thing. You can look, if you go to Christian,
00:39:35.369 --> 00:39:37.849
Put in Christian Ray Flores in YouTube, you'll
00:39:37.849 --> 00:39:40.469
find a lot of videos from the 90s with long hair
00:39:40.469 --> 00:39:43.889
and very flashy clothes. And you'll have a lot
00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.670
of fun with that. But I speak English, Spanish,
00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:48.570
Russian, and Portuguese. Those are the four languages
00:39:48.570 --> 00:39:53.190
I speak. And you're right. I mean, if I hadn't
00:39:53.190 --> 00:39:54.969
listened in the moment, and I basically went
00:39:54.969 --> 00:39:57.469
back and I wasn't crazy or anything. I just told
00:39:57.469 --> 00:40:00.869
to my friends, my entourage, hey, I'm going to
00:40:00.869 --> 00:40:03.789
probably transition out of this in a very sort
00:40:03.789 --> 00:40:08.619
of Adult grown -up way not abruptly But I feel
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called to do these other things and of course
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everybody thought I was crazy, you know, not
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surprisingly so But you have to trust your intuition
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actually at some point and if I hadn't done that
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that's sort of the deal That's I that's in retrospect.
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It's really powerful and that's why I feel like
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I can I Think I can help people well because
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I've been through the high performer high achiever
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journey and make the turns when I felt it was
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necessary and took risks. But if I hadn't done
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that, I wouldn't have created philanthropic projects
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on literally three different continents. I wouldn't
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speak to audiences in all four languages, and
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I have. I'm now married for 25 years. My children
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love me. My family respects me. I... made a lot
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of sacrifices to be around my three daughters
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and be present with them. The whole time they
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were in the house, I literally have missed nothing
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from their lives. And that investment will pay
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dividends not only in our relationship with each
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other, but in their lives going forward. So that's
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a legacy. That's a multi -generational impact.
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And my point is there's things that you can do
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to just change your family for generations to
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come. And these things are almost always costly,
00:41:36.460 --> 00:41:39.800
risky, and scary. You have to leave your lane.
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You'll have to live your own story, not somebody
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else's story. And for that, my favorite person
00:41:46.860 --> 00:41:49.840
to help in coaching is that person who understands
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that and owns it and really wants to do that.
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Thank you so much. I'm pinching myself because
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I'm wondering, how did I get so, and I don't
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like the word luck, so I like to say bless, to
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even have you sign up and go on a live, no prep
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needed show, you had no idea. I don't even know
00:42:11.190 --> 00:42:41.710
if you know who I am, but I feel. the fifth We
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all want to be the best that we can be. And I
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also love your love for the future. And the children
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are our future. It doesn't matter what country
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they're on, they're our future. So thank you
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for working in those three countries to make
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sure that those children, my gosh, you may be
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helping the child that's going to find the cure
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for something. I mean, like, who knows, right?
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Like the ability, so. Christian, I got chills.
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You have been so fantastic. Thank you for the
00:43:11.869 --> 00:43:14.190
little difficulty in the beginning. I really
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appreciate it. And to everyone else, Creative
00:43:17.309 --> 00:43:19.909
Comm is out there. And I've never met anyone
00:43:19.909 --> 00:43:22.530
like Christian that does this whole performance.
00:43:22.590 --> 00:43:25.130
So amazing. And there are going to be some great
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speakers at Creative Comm. And I always have
00:43:27.750 --> 00:43:30.190
to, I think I got my wording to end it because
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Christian, as a corporate etiquette and international
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protocol, a consultant certified with the Protocol
00:43:37.369 --> 00:43:39.889
School of Washington in Washington, D .C. At
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the end of the day, empathy, etiquette, and let's
00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:48.090
all be nice to each other because that's so important.
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So everyone, you'll have all the information
00:43:51.190 --> 00:43:53.750
soon. Thank you, Christian, so, so much. I really
00:43:53.750 --> 00:43:56.269
appreciate however you found me. Thank you for
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finding me. Thank you. Thank you for being so
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generous and asking actually deep, profound questions.
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I really appreciate that. Okay, thank you. That
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means a lot to me. I'm going to end it right
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now and I really

