Transforming Leadership and Humanity: Insights from Steven Howard

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Okay, so we've got a new guest that is obviously

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brave, bold, and has two first names. Who is

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Stephen Howard? Stephen, introduce yourself.

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Who is Stephen Howard? Well, I'm still trying

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to figure that out in many ways, but I'm a lifetime

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learner. That's the best way to describe me.

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But professionally, personally, I... I grew up

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in a little town in the western part of the U

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.S. you might have heard of called Las Vegas

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from elementary school right through college

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and then was recruited by Texas Instruments in

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college and they moved me to Dallas and for some

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reason they moved me to Singapore and I worked

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for them in Singapore for three additional years

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in addition to my time in Dallas and then they

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wanted me to move to Lubbock, Texas and I said

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Gentlemen, I've learned to scuba dive. I've learned

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to enjoy Asian food. I've learned to enjoy Asian

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culture. I'm staying out here in Asia. So I ended

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up living in Asia for 21 years, worked for Time

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magazine, Air Lanka, the national airline of

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Sri Lanka, and then Citibank before I started

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my own business. And then I moved to Australia,

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lived 12 years in Australia. And I came back

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to the US about 12 years ago because my dad had

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some health issues. I became his primary health

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-giver before he passed on. And then when COVID

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came, I thought... I don't want to be in California

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for COVID. So I lived in Mexico during COVID

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for three years. It was a lot more comfortable

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than being locked down in Southern California.

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So that's where I've been. That's kind of who

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I've been, who I am today. I'm an author, award

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-winning author of 26 books. 27th book comes

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out in a couple of weeks. And so that's, I guess,

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who I am. I'm a writer. Well, wait, so where

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are you now? I'm in Phoenix. I came back to the

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U .S. about five months ago. I'm living in Phoenix.

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I like the desert. I like the warmth, as you

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can tell. I lived in Palm Springs in Las Vegas

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and now Phoenix, Arizona. So I'm a desert rat.

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Oh my gosh. I was just there. I flew into Phoenix,

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but I was in Tucson for my son's wedding, which

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was in Rocky Point, Mexico. which most people

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don't know, but that was beautiful and going

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over the border in Lukeville was easy. So where

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did you live in Mexico? In outside Mexico City

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in one of the southeastern suburbs of actually

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near a town called Santa Fe, like Santa Fe, New

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Mexico, but it was Santa Fe, Mexico instead.

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Oh my God, that is so cool. I totally, most people

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don't understand. I lived Tucson. I lived there

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for three years. I loved it. Loved, loved, loved.

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I was actually the VP of Southern Arizona for

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Score. It was such a great time. And then what

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I do now, I live in Daytona Beach, Florida, but

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I actually house sit in the Tucson. So my first

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one, my heart is there, my son is there, my baby

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son, Rudy, who got married. And then like we

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did a sit in Oro Valley. So I love to, I did

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a sit in two backlash summer. So I love that

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area. So if you don't know the desert, it's absolutely

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beautiful that not in the summer. Do you stay

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there in the summer? Yeah, I came here in May.

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I love the warm weather. I mean, you know, you

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stay indoors between two o 'clock and six o 'clock.

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But, you know, you go out in the morning, go

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out at seven o 'clock in the morning, and it's

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gorgeous even if, because it's, you know, it's

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a dry heat. I lived in Singapore, which is a

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wet heat, very humid in Singapore, so I really

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enjoy the dry climate. So I want to get off the

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weather situation and all of this, but I do have

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one question. In my mind, when I'm there, I have

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more energy. I believe it's the mountains. I

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actually feel like the mountains give me energy

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and it gives all the people energy because they're

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all walking outside during the day. Am I crazy

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in thinking that? No, I don't think so. I think

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between the mountains and the thinner air, I

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mean, the heavy air and like Houston, the humidity

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in Houston and Singapore to me is very tiring.

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Even when I lived in Australia, when we had the

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humid days where I lived outside Melbourne, it

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was fairly humid some days and I would feel more

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tired than other days. But that's just my perspective.

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I love it. I love it. OK, so Texas Instruments.

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When you mentioned Texas Instruments, what came

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in my head is that, oh, yeah, I had to spend

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$100 a year on their calculator. that we were

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told, and I don't recall if there was even any

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competition. So I'm thinking around that time

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of like, were you with Texas Instrument in the

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90s when they were just known for having the

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kind of math calculator that you needed for the

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schools? I was with TI in the late 70s and early

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80s. But yeah, that was when we started the calculator

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business, particularly what was called the scientific

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calculators, the TI -79 and that series. And

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then believe it or not, TI In 1980, I think we

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were the largest watch manufacturer in the world

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because we came out the LED watches. We pushed

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a button and the numbers came up, the time came

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up in red lights. and we were very successful

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with that and then LCDs, the liquid crystal display

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watches, but it didn't take long for some very

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smart Japanese manufacturers to figure out how

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to do that at much lower cost. So TIO was only

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in the watch business for maybe five years and

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then got wiped out by the Japanese. Crazy, crazy.

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Okay, so you mentioned you are an author and

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I think you said either 26 to 27 or 27, your

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28th is coming out. Tell us about your books.

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What is the theme? Are they the same genre, like

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a share? Well, they're all nonfiction books,

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and they're all professional development and

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personal development related. My function when

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I was in the corporate world was marketing. So

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my first book was about branding, corporate image

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branding, and then some marketing and customer

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service related type books. And then because

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I lived in Asia, and even as a child living,

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growing up in Las Vegas, I loved quotes. I used

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to have a little shoe box and three by five index

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cards. And every time I saw a quote, I would

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hand write it down and put it in my little box.

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And so when I was in Asia, I started collecting

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all these wonderful quotes in Asia. And I created

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a series called Asian Words of Wisdom. And then

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it was Asian Words of Productivity, but Asian

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Words of Success. Asian words of, geez, I can't

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remember now, forgiveness, things of that nature.

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And I had a five -part series on Asian words

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of wisdom. Now that I segue, many years ago,

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about 20 years ago, I segued into leadership

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development, leadership coaching, leadership

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mentoring, all but the latest book had been leadership

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-related, how to leadership skills, books on

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the art of feedback. Effective Feedback, The

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Art of Effective Delegation, so very specific

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leadership skills books. And then one book just

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that people love, and I don't know what your

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audience is like, but the book that the younger

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generation loves is called Eight Keys to Great

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Leadership, and that's a boring title. But the

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subtitle, is leadership skills, tips, and techniques

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from Gibbs, Yoda, and Captain Jack Sparrow. So

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I took Gibbs from the TV show NCIS. Anyone who

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ever watched that knows he has his rules, rules

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number 12, 15, blah, blah, blah. And he's the

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old ex -Marine sniper command and control type

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leader, but builds great loyalty. And then you

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got Yoda. Yoda is your philosophical. leader

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and, you know, with his, there is no try, do

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or do not type philosophy. And then there's Captain

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Jack Sparrow, gets into trouble and gets out

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of trouble, but also builds great loyalty. I'm

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not suggesting, you know, we need to be leaders

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in crime and be pirates, but he also shows some

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great leadership skills. So anyway, up until

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the last book, they were leadership. Now the

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latest book is called Humany Mindset, and it's

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about how we live in such a divisive world. And

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what we need to do to show more compassion, respect,

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kindness, treat each other with more peacefulness.

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And so that's all about, the subtitle of that

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book is Change the World by Changing Your Mindset.

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And not suggesting any of us can change world

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hunger or solve the Middle East peace crisis.

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crisis, but we can all make our neighborhoods

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better. We can all make our schools better. We

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can make our communities better. We can just

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make life better simply by treating each other

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with greater respect, greater compassion, greater

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humanity, and that's what that book's about.

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I feel like you're my brother from another mother.

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I love that. I grew up with the promotional products,

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logo, merchandise, branding, business, putting

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logos on products. So my parents started that

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business in 1955. I have my own business. And

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the funny thing is, is that I'm actually on this

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app called Chatter Social, and I'm trying to

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create a movement of because I care, because

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I think I hear too many people will say, I really

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don't care what that person thinks of me. I don't

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care if they don't buy from me. This is the whole

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thing of like, I don't care. So I love that.

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I love talking about empathy. So yeah, you are

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my brother from another mother who lives in the

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desert. I love it. So what is your favorite book?

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And I would love to know also a double question.

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What is your favorite quote? Do you even have

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one or your top 10? Yeah, I've got a favorite

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quote. My favorite book is like asking a parent

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who's your favorite child. But the last one,

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because I think it's the one that could have

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the greatest impact. It's got a wonderful cover

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on it. The cover was designed by a graphic artist

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in Mexico City, and it shows the tree of life

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inside the brain, which is where humanity began

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under the tree of life. The arms that are shown

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in the silhouette are actually the, looks like

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veins, blood veins, but they're actually the

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double helix symbol because we all share about

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99 % of the same DNA, no matter, you know, we're

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all part of the same homo sapiens fraternity.

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So we've got that. And then behind the head is

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a sun with a rainbow around it. And that's called

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a rainbow sun dog. And in the Hopi, Native American

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tribes and the Navajo Native American tribe,

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their belief is that when there is a rainbow

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sundog, that is a symbol that humanity is coming

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together. And the seven colors of the rainbow

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represent the different continents and people

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on the different continents of humanity all coming

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together. So to them, that is a symbol that the

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world is moving to a better place. So all those

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are symbolic of the hook. I'm just thinking,

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I think I could share my screen and show that.

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Is that available on Amazon? Yes, it just came

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out about two weeks ago, two and a half weeks

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ago. It's on Amazon globally in print. It's on

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Amazon in the Kindle format. And in January,

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it'll come out as an audiobook, but I won't be

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able to get that done before the holidays, so

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that'll be out. So that's coming out, an audiobook

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in January. It's available now, it's called Humany.

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And by the way, humany, just for your audience,

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is a word I created. And you see it on the screen

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there under my name. I combined the words human,

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humanity, and harmony. And I first applied it

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to leadership. So that was the last leadership

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book was called Humanity Leadership. And I wrote

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about the need for leaders coming out of the

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pandemic to create workplaces of wellbeing and

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harmony and to treat people as human beings,

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not as assets. One of the philosophy of that

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book simply is that, you manage projects, you

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manage policies, you manage procedures, you manage

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inventory, you manage things, but you don't manage

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people anymore, you lead people. And so that's

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a mindset change in that book. And then the latest

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book, which is called Humany Mindset, it's about

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changing our minds to how we interact with each

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other, similar to your social chat group of,

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it matters to me, or what you said there. Because

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I care. because I care, sorry, because I care.

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And it's the same thing, because I care. You

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know, one of the interesting things I find, Adrian,

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is that in Mexico, when I would take my morning

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walks around Mexico, everyone looks at you. It

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doesn't matter if they're the gardener, if they're

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the maid walking the dogs, or if they're your

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neighbor, everyone looks at you and says, Buenos

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dias, or Buenos tardes, or Buendía. Here in the

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U .S., when I walk around, or even in shopping

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centers, I find that more than half the people

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are walking with their head down and not looking

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at their phones. They just don't, people don't

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want to make eye contact. And then even when

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I do my morning walks here in Phoenix, the ones

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who do make eye contact, I'll say, good morning.

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And only about a third of them will reply. The

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other two thirds will pretend they didn't hear

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me and they just keep moving along on their path.

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And that's a shame because we don't need to treat

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each other like that. People want to be noticed.

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and they want to be respected whether you're

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the cashier at Target or whether you're the plumber

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who comes into your house to fix your pipes or

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whether it's your neighbor and we just need to

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show respect to each other so that's what that

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book is all about. Okay I do want to hear your

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favorite quote and then I want to ask you if

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you have your own podcast or how because your

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information is so great so I'd love to have your

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favorite quote or quotes. Okay, I'm gonna read

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it to you. I'm getting it out here so I don't

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misread it. It comes from Robert Kennedy. And

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it says, some men see things as they are and

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ask why. I dream of things that never were and

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ask, why not? And that's what that book's about.

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Instead of looking and saying, why are we like

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this? And just saying, that's humanity. Why not?

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Why can't we be more respectful to each other?

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Why can't we treat each other with more respect,

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more compassion? I mean, it takes just as much

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energy to smile at somebody than it does to frown

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at them. And so one of the quotes in the book,

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my quote, my quote in the book is, you'll feel

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a lot better about yourself when you give somebody

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a, give somebody peace, P -E -A -C -E, peace

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from your heart than a piece of your mind. Wow,

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you know how often we just work everyone is so

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triggered to Cocked go off at the slightest,

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you know somebody bumps into you You know, we

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see so many fights on airplanes and airports

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even even state sports stadiums where we're supposed

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to be enjoying ourselves and you see these videos

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going around that are all about the fights in

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the stands between fans I mean if we can't if

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we can't go to a ballgame and understand some

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people are gonna root for the other team Not

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necessarily for our team Are we going to get

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in a fight over that? No, we need to change our

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attitudes about all that. I don't have a podcast,

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but I do have a lot of content on my YouTube

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channel, which is called Stephen Howard on leadership.

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And there's a lot of free information, including

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an eight part series about brain health. Because

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one of my earlier books was about how stress

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and anxiety impacts our decision -making and

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how Alzheimer's and other things impact our brain

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health. And again, my father had early Alzheimer's

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before he passed away. So I did the research

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to be his caregiver. And then I turned it into

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a book called, Better Decisions, Better Thinking,

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Better Outcomes. And so, and then I did an eight

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part YouTube series on brain health, building

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and maintaining brain health. Each video is like

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five to eight minutes in length, so they're not

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very long. They're obviously not technical. I'm

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not a scientist. By any means, I bring it down

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to the level that the common, if I can understand

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it, I believe everyone can understand it. So

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I give tips and techniques in that series about

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how to build and maintain your brain health.

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I love that. So I did have the opportunity to...

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to move to Nanjing, China. And so when we were

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there and my daughter, I noticed that there is

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one universal language. Smiling. And that was

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all you need to do is smile. I remember my daughter,

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we were on the subway. she was they were this

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little girl about her age and they were smiling

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and they were laughing I know they were laughing

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at me because I was all you know just so excited

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but it was so cute to see that so I think that's

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so important and I have another question I want

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to ask you the being positive because I noticed

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that a lot of people I was just in a you're like

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listening and people can be very negative and

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so everything they see they don't believe It's

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like, it's crazy. And I'm like, wow, I can't

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even wrap myself around any like conspiracy theories

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or anything negative, because I really do see

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everything so positive. But then I question,

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is that a bad thing, Stephen Howard? Should I

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really be so positive? Or should I start to be

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a little bit more like, hmm, maybe I should start

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looking into this. And maybe I shouldn't be so

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positive, because what I put out there in my

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thinking is positivity. I think there's nothing

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wrong with being positive. I mean, I wouldn't

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suggest running around the world with rose -colored

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glasses on and, you know, be happy, you know,

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sort of attitude all the time. Don't worry, be

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happy. But, you know, in the workplace, negativity

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is so prevalent. And Google did a Google count

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research last year, 2023. And it showed that

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the number one factor for productive teams was

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having a psychologically safe environment. And

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what they meant by that in that research was

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that in the meetings and teams, no one would

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shut you down for an idea. So no one would say,

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that's stupid, or you went to tech, no one do

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you think that, or anything. Or you're a millennial,

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you don't have enough experience to understand

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what the problem is here. So everyone could share

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their ideas, share their comments in a psychologically

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safe environment. And also people could admit

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they made mistakes. And that way, not only would

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they learn from making mistakes, but others would

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learn not to replicate those mistakes. And so

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this psychological safe environment has an attitude,

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part of that is about being positive and also

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about being resilient, knowing that you can overcome

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most things in life. Now, look, we're gonna have

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tragedies in our lives and some people have been

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greater tragedies and certainly that I've ever

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experienced. And that's the mindset change I

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talk about in the book. For instance, most of

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us when we see homeless people think they're

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lazy or they're drug users or it's their fault,

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it's their problem, they should go get a job.

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And particularly here in the western part of

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the US, they're often referred to as left lane

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losers because they're begging at traffic lights

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at the left lane turn. where the left lane turn

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is. So out here it's very common to call it left

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lane losers. And there you know then you know

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a lot of them will say you know I'm a vet or

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you know I'm homeless or I've got children or

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whatever. But here's the mindset change I'm talking

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about. I know for a fact that if I was if life

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put me to the point that I was homeless, I had

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no family support, I was penniless, I admit I

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would probably go buy a bottle of Venezuelan

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rum and grab a handful of sleeping pills and

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say ciao. Goodbye. Now when I look at homeless

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people, I look at them, I think, how resilient

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are they? How strong are they to fight through

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and continue to survive where I couldn't do that?

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I don't think I would have the fortitude to go

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out there and wash in DC and sleep in the cold

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and freeze. So I look at them differently, and

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that's a different mindset. I don't look at them

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as if it's their problem. It's a societal issue,

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a societal problem we need to solve. Now, look,

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some people argue that, look, there are 5%, 6%,

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7 % who are lazy, who don't want to work, who

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just want to beg. But do we want to focus on

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those 5 % or 6 % or do we want to focus on the

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93%, 94%, 95 % who, for whatever reason, are

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in bad shape? And what can we do? And if nothing

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else, if we smile at them rather than go, go

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away, you dirty, trashy person, get away from

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me. What if we just looked at them and said,

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sorry, I can't help you, but I hope you have

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a nice day. Smile. It takes the same effort and

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it just might warm their hearts a little bit

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to continue their struggle that they're facing.

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Peter Yarrow from Peter, Paul and Mary wrote

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a song and in it, it's, I wouldn't be out here,

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a beggar in the corner, you pass me on the street

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and I wouldn't be out here begging if I had enough

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to eat. I can't remember the rest of it. But

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this is his song. Oh my God, it just went out

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of my head. So sorry. But I will say that I think

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that they all need to be seen, heard, valued.

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If I have money and I'm able to give, I give

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it. Otherwise, I say, I'm so sorry. I hope other

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people will give it. I want you to have a good

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day. They just notice them because they are people.

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When you really take the time to talk. And so

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if I see them outside on the corner, Then I really

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make sure because they do want to be seen and

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they're always I've never had anyone be mad at

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me if I say I'm so sorry I don't have any money,

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but I I pray for you or I'm thinking the best

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of you or I know the next 10 cars will be able

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to help you like I you know just a little positivity

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so I agree with you everyone needs to be seen

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and heard and valued and I have and and don't

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listen to people I used to go to places and I

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would have dollars on me so if I was going to

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certain areas that I know I'll have money on

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me. And if I want to hand it out, I want to hand

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it out. Don't tell me that I can't hand it out

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because people say the same thing. Oh, you know,

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they're going to use it for this drink. I'm like,

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I don't care. They have a phone. Good. I'm glad

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they have a phone. Like that's where the negativity

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there's just there's so many people out there

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that just are negative. And 90 percent of the

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people who will tell you don't give them money

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because they'll spend on alcohol, go home after

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a stressful day and pour themselves a drink as

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if it's OK for them to drink. But it's not okay

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for the homeless person who's out there in the

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cold and the wind or in the hot sun of Palm Springs

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or wherever. But it's not okay for them to take

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the edge off with a drink. So I'm sorry, it just

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doesn't fly with me anymore. So look, one of

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the things I do, and that's the things I say

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in the book, I said, look, it doesn't take a

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lot of effort if you can afford it. When I lived

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in Palm Springs, there was a homeless camp. in

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between my house and the supermarket that I would

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do my weekly shopping at. And I would pretty

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much every time buy one of these eight packs

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of fried chicken or baked chicken that the store

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is cooked and you buy it as ready -made, ready

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to eat. And on my way home, I would stop and

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I would hand it to people in the camp. And the

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thing I always found fascinating was despite

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how hungry everybody is, Nobody fought over that

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food. They would always share it. So you go to

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the Thomas Hobbes philosophy that life is short,

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brutish, and nasty. No, Jean -Jacques Brousseau

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was right. Our innate human nature is to be kind

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to each other, to be compassionate, to share

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with each other. And so I've never seen people

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fight over the food that I've left them in the

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homeless camps, which I just found very interesting.

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Yep, they have their own community. They're beautiful.

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I have a question for you your last book. Can

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you give me that title again? it's human he as

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in what's on my name there human a mindset and

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If you want, I've got a picture of the cover,

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but I don't know how to share it for your audience

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here, but I know I just You had a book called

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change and Hold on for one second because I have

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the guy at the door. We don't have any air. So

00:25:00.549 --> 00:25:02.430
that's why I'm sweating. Hold on Okay, I gotta

00:25:02.430 --> 00:25:16.799
yell for my life happens. Okay, so you had a

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book called Change. That's the subtitle. So the

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title of the book is Humany Mindset and the subtitle

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is Change the World by Changing Your Mindset.

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So that's the subtitle of the book. Okay, I love

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that. I love that subtitle. It made me think,

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years ago I did a change .org campaign with the

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hashtag climates of respect. and to try to encourage

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people to have climates of respect in the workplace,

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in the school, in your community. But I love,

00:25:46.710 --> 00:25:48.609
have you ever thought of doing that as a change

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.org? I haven't yet. I'll look into that. No,

00:25:52.809 --> 00:25:55.470
I hadn't considered that. I guess I've been so

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focused on just the writing aspect of it. I haven't

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focused too much on how to get the message out.

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Okay, I'm just thinking of that. So I really

00:26:03.900 --> 00:26:06.660
enjoyed our conversation today. You are an amazing

00:26:06.660 --> 00:26:08.640
man. Everyone, you're gonna, I will have all

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.920
the information, but right now just, I bet you

00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.039
if I Google Stephen Howard and put author, you're

00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.400
gonna get all your information. So you probably

00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:20.180
have great branding because I love that you're

00:26:20.180 --> 00:26:22.140
teaching it. And actually go back, what year

00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:27.660
did you publish the branding? 1993. Oh, I love

00:26:27.660 --> 00:26:29.640
that. And I love the original story of branding.

00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.359
with the cows? Yeah. Yeah. They love that. Okay.

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So everyone support Stephen Howard. Stephen,

00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.500
I'd love to support you. I'm going to make sure

00:26:38.500 --> 00:26:40.940
I'm following you on every social media. If there's

00:26:40.940 --> 00:26:43.240
something that you want me to like repost or

00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:47.140
do anything, you just reach out and Thank you

00:26:47.140 --> 00:26:49.819
so much. Guys, after you read the book, give

00:26:49.819 --> 00:26:53.079
a five -star positive review as much as you can

00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:55.259
because we forget to do that. And Stephen, that's

00:26:55.259 --> 00:26:57.220
another thing in this world of ours. If we could

00:26:57.220 --> 00:27:00.420
do something so easy as to give a five -star

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review, the restaurant, when you've done business

00:27:03.940 --> 00:27:07.359
with people, that goes so far and it's so appreciated.

00:27:07.619 --> 00:27:10.259
So do it. And if you have a negative experience

00:27:10.259 --> 00:27:12.619
somewhere, then talk to the management or talk

00:27:12.619 --> 00:27:16.230
to the person. Don't just... put a post out there

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and try to harm a business. We should all be

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helping businesses, helping professionals, helping

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authors. So please take that advice. And any

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last words, Steve, or anything I didn't ask you

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that you'd like to bring up? I'll just share

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my own personal philosophy with everyone, and

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that is please never stop learning because life

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never stops teaching. So keep learning, folks,

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and thank you for your support. Oh, I love that.

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One of my favorite quotes is, and this changed

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my life around, if you want to learn something,

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teach. So I wanted to learn etiquettes. So I

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went to the Protocol School of Washington. So

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this one comedian at an MPI South Florida meeting

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got up during his routine at one point said that.

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And that's what went in my head and was like,

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oh my gosh, I don't have to know everything.

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I can learn while I'm teaching. Yep. That's a

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that's actually a child old Chinese proverb from

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the Confucian days which says you look you You

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you learn what you need to teach or you teach

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what you need to learn and this is so so so true

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Okay, the one one final final how many quotes

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do you now have well how many to have you amassed

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in the years? Oh, I probably have over 20 ,000

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quotes quite honestly in various down Oh yeah,

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they're all in different word documents. I think

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every year I probably add close to a thousand

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quotes to my collection. Is there a world record

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on someone having the most quotes out there?

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Let's look it up. I don't know. I have no idea.

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I'm not into records like that. self record -taking

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or self record acknowledgement. Now I just I

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do it and then almost all my books I share quotes

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in and and that'll be the next book. The next

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book is called Humany Mindset Quotes and so that

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is a book about quotes about the the four principles

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of the humany mindset of peacefulness, compassion,

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kindness, and respect, and acceptance, and harmony,

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and things like that. So every chapter has has

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six pages of quotes on those various topics to

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motivate people. You're my kind of person. You're

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my kind of human. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

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you. Have a great rest of the day. And thank

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you. You made my day better. And I'm sure for

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the three people listening, they're happy too.

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So thank you so much. You're a lovely man. Stephen

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Howard, remember him. He's got the two names,

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the two first names. Bye -bye. You too. Bye -bye.

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So good. Let me end this stream. That was so

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good Stephen. Thank you so much. You're amazing

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Thank you. Thank you awesome. Oh my gosh. I can't

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wait to get