MindShifting with Mitch Weisburgh: Rewire Your Brain for Resilience, Resourcefulness & Real-World Wins

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that looks like So just know my head is down

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making I see it says live 17 seconds Love it.

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Love it. Hi, everyone. Just hold on for one second

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because I want to make sure that it's showing

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up I'm gonna go on to my LinkedIn and see if

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you are there And then I'm going to have to get

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some expert help with LinkedIn. OK. And I don't

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see it live on my LinkedIn. So hold on. It should

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be. OK. Let me go see here. Hold on. You guys,

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StreamYard, I don't know what is going on. But

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it definitely, we are live. I see. Oh, I see

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us. Oh, don't I look adorable? My bangs looking

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so good. Perfect. All right, so everyone welcome

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to Adrian Barker no prep needed which means I

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don't know who Mitch is I have no clue so I don't

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even know who Mitch is You have to introduce

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yourself and I'm gonna say I know about Mitch

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three things. I know he's brave I know he's bald.

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And he's bald! So Mitch, tell us about yourself.

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Okay, so basically what I do is for the last

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seven or eight years I've been pulling together

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information on how our brains make decisions

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with the hopes of reaching five million people

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so that we can change the world. So everybody

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could be more resourceful, resilient and collaborative.

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And I think that if we had a critical mass of

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people doing that, then all these issues that

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we face, we would start solving them rather than

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constantly going at each other. And in the process,

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the people who are resourceful, resilient and

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collaborative, they're happier, they're more

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effective, they're leading better lives. So that's

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a side benefit. I love that. So how many years?

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So I started doing this in 2017 is when I really

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started formally doing this. And then I've been

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doing this full time really for about three years.

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Okay, so this whole mind shifting, when did mind

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shifting become a real conversation? Well, that's

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a really good question because I actually started

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off calling it sense making. Because I figured

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this is how the brain makes sense of different

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things, but we have really on my wife's side

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a cousin who is in marketing in education and

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We were out for dinner one night and she says

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sense -making Nobody knows what that is. You

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need to change the name You should call it mind

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-shifting and so that was four years ago. And

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so I call it mind -shifting Oh, I love that.

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Oh, I love, love, love that you had someone that

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didn't yes you to death and say, oh yeah, okay,

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that's a good name and came up with something

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that would make more sense. And that's a good

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example of why feedback is so important, right?

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Yep, yep. Especially feedback from women, you

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know? 100%. If that is your audience, 100%. Okay,

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I want to have a little fun if you don't mind.

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I want to show off your website and I'm going

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to share my screen. And I'm going to go to your

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website and hold on mind shifting with Mitch.

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I'm going to share it. All right. Do you see

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your website? Yep. I love this. Okay. So I'm

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going to, I'm going to like, this is my new thing.

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Cause now I want to know more. So I love that

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you have a video on your site. Okay. So you are

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an educator. Is that an educator that you used

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to be an educator, the school system, or you're

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educating people? So I've never actually been

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a teacher in a school system, but I've been working

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in education since around 2003. And I was in

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corporate training from 1981 to around 2000.

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Awesome. Awesome. So that kind of gives an idea.

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And then an author. Oh, I'm going to go right

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over to the book. Oh, juicy gold, juicy gold.

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I just hit the jackpot. Ring, ring, ring. And

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I will say, I've just finished writing the second

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book. It's at an editor now. And that's going

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to be Mindshifting Volume 3, Conflict and Collaboration.

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I love this. So let's go back to volume one.

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So stop your brain from sabotaging your happiness

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and success. Can you give me some examples? Sure.

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So this first book is on the first element of

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mind shifting which is being resourceful and

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basically being resourceful means to recognize

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when your mind it when your brain is leading

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you down a hole like one of the things that all

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of our brains have is these saboteurs sometimes

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may be called part x which is always criticizing

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us like you can't do this you shouldn't be doing

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this and to be able to recognize you know something

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that's just my part x criticizing me, making

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me miserable in order for me not to make any

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changes and to kind of laugh at it. And then

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to say, but you know something, I'm going to

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go ahead and try something anyhow. So that's

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an example of mind shifting, recognizing the

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brain when it's when it's stopping us, quieting

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that voice down and then tapping into our resourcefulness.

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Well, so it's more than just by saying to myself,

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stop it, Adrian, just knock it off, get back

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on track. Well, so the interesting thing is that

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That act, when you say stop it, your brain is

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going to fight you, right? It's like, what do

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you mean telling me to stop it? You know, no,

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you stop it, you know, and you get into this

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fight with your own brain and you're kind of

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using up your energy, forcing yourself to do

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something that maybe part of you doesn't want.

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But there are other ways of either. First quieting

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that part of the brain if it's really really

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loud like you know You're afraid of doing something

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or you have hang high anxiety then you know quieting

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that part of the brain might be some distraction

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might be Mindfulness might be going for a walk

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might be listening to music and then once it's

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quiet like opening up to Possibilities like if

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you're sure that you can't do something instead

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of saying come on Mitch You know, you can do

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this is to come back and say well, you know something

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Perhaps I can. And just when you open up your

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mind to possibilities, your prefrontal cortex,

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you know, the resourceful parts of your brain,

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can't help but start coming up with ways that

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you can do it. And then, you know, it may be

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that you can't do it right now, but maybe you

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have to learn something, maybe you have to ask

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people, maybe you have to get some help, but

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it'll start coming up with ways that you can.

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You know, I have a question for you. I was years

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ago, around 2017 actually, I was in a conference

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and it was for classroom teachers, even though

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I was a teacher, it was about teaching us how

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to work with so many different children brains,

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so much neurodiversity in the room classroom.

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But one of the things that the woman had said

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is you can't feel fear and you can't feel...

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like fear and happiness or gratitude at the same

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time. You can't feel like she made it sound like

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you can't have two emotions at the same time.

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So if you're fearful, then start thinking of

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all the things that you're grateful for. And

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it does work for me. It does shift. But when

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I talk to other people about that, they're like,

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no, you can have two things going on at once.

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So I'm kind of curious. What does that look like

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to you? So for me, it's you know, I basically

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it's a very simplified model would. divide the

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brain into two parts. There's the survival parts

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or the limbic system. And that part of the brain

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was designed so that the organism could survive.

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And then there's the parts that developed with

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mammals and mostly developed in the US, which

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is like your prefrontal cortex. And that's your

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critical thinking and your creative parts. That

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part of the brain really only operates when you're

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in a mode that you're feeling curious. or playful,

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or happy. And that limbic part is part of the

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brain. It can operate whether you're happy or

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you're not. But when your limbic part of the

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brain is fearful or anxious, it shuts down your

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ability to be happy. or curious, and it shuts

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down the ability of the prefrontal cortex to

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work because it floods your whole system with

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stress hormones, cortisol and adrenaline. And

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once those happen, you're really focused on whatever

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it is that the limbic parts of the system, limbic

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parts of your brain have decided that you need

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to do, but you're not open to anything else.

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And so, you know, it's hard for me to say you

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can't be happy and sad at the same time. I think

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you probably could. But you can't be creative

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and fearful at the same time. Oh, that is interesting.

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OK, so so I want to go into like what you what

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you how this can help someone. But first, what

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happens to our brain when we're going down? Like

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how many times have you heard someone say, I

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really woke up and I was going to get some work

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done and then I ended up on Tic Tac. And next

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thing you know, it's four hours later and I got

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nothing done. And do we have control over that?

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Because when people say it, it almost feels like

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they can't rip themselves away from TikTok. There's

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so many things. The brain is so fascinating.

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It's not like you can say, oh, the brain always

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does this or the brain always does that. There's

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two factors here that I'd like to bring up. One

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is that There's there's happy hormones that are

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also released in your brain for certain activities

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dopamine oxytocin serotonin the endorphins and

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specifically the one Dopamine when it gets released

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in your brain It's like telling your brain you're

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about to do something that you're going to like

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which in general is a good thing but with things

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like addictive behavior that Hormone gets released

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and so you do it then it gets released again

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and you do it and and you're not really thinking

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about it So you kind of overdo it and you kind

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of become addicted to it. So it's that Over release

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of dopamine that's causing us, you know to do

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these things that we do all the time We think

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we're gonna be happy, but we're always chasing

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the next the next thing that's gonna make us

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happier And then the second thing I'd like to

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bring up is this ability to be self -aware or

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metacognition is another term for it. And understanding

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what's going on in your brain is the first step

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to improving. So if you can work on your ability

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to be aware of what you're doing and you say,

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oh my gosh, I now am pleasing people all the

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time or I now am scrolling on social media all

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the time or I'm working all the time and ignoring

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my family. You know, whatever it is that you

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keep on doing because of this dopamine release,

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as soon as you become aware of it, you then have

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a chance of changing it. But if you don't develop

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the capacity to be metacognitive, to be self

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-aware, then you're just going to persist in

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doing it. And sometimes that's enough, and sometimes

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you need more of a push in order to get away

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from whatever that behavior is. I love this.

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I love that there's more conversation on the

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mind. All right, let's look. So available print,

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audio, and Kindle. Beautiful. Hitting cognitive

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patterns that shape our decision habits and emotions.

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So after someone reads the book, do you have

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any case studies by the way, someone like start

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and then after reading the book or talking with

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you or taking, I don't know, do you offer something

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else besides the book? Yeah, I'd love to hear

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more about that. So I really resisted writing

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the book because I've been teaching courses on

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mind shifting and the book is based on the first

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course. There's three courses at this point.

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It just seems to me like you can't learn how

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to ride a bike by reading a book. How can you

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learn how to control your mind by reading a book?

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And so that's why I, you know, people said you

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got to write a book. You got to put it in a book.

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And I'm like, people are going to learn from

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it. But the thing that convinced me to write

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the book was people also said, look, you want

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to go to states and you want the states to make

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the course available for their teachers. No state

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is going to believe that Mitch Weisberg has any

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credibility. But if you write a book. you're

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going to have a lot more credibility. So then

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I started writing the book and it's like, as

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soon as you get into it, I don't want to write

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a book that's just going to allow me to say I

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write a book. I want to write a book that's really

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going to help people. So I wrote this book with

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the techniques and actually more techniques than

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are actually in the course, but I was still pretty

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skeptical. What I found is that when people read

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the book, even when they read the book the first

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time, They always pick up some activities. One

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of the activities was to be able to visualize

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what it's like when you succeed something. And

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I got a call from somebody who read the book

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who was saying, you know, it was interesting.

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It was winter. I did not want to work out. I

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came up with all these excuses why I shouldn't

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go out running. And then... What I did is I visualized,

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well, if I run anyhow, how am I going to feel

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when I finish running? And if I finish running,

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and after I take a shower and I talk to people

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in the office about how I didn't want to run

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and I ran anyhow, what are people going to say?

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And he says, that motivated me to run. So I know

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people can pick up those techniques. But I also

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find that the people who learn the most read

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the book two or three times, because you read

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the book, you learn a couple of techniques, you

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read it a second time, it's like, oh, this goes

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deeper. And I also got an email from a woman

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who suffers from high anxiety, and her anxiety

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is so bad, she's been hospitalized for weeks

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because of her anxiety. And she said, you know,

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I've read this book three times, and I'll tell

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you, one of the things that it did, now I understand

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what my therapists are telling me like they kept

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on telling me this is happening and this is happening

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and I really didn't understand it now I had the

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vocabulary and I understand what they're saying

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and what I've picked up is I can tell when my

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anxiety is just starting to rise and I can use

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some of the activities in the book like mindfulness

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or meditation, I can use different activities

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and I can calm my mind and sometimes I can do

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that by myself. If I can't, I found that I can

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pick it up early enough that I can call my therapist

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and they can usually give me some stuff or they've

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always been able to since I read the book to

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be able to give me stuff for me to calm down

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without having to be hospitalized. So that's

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what the book has done for me. Those are two

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incidences. I love that. I'm thinking right now

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too, is it an easy enough read for a teenager,

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a young adult? So I think that certainly a 17,

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18 year old can read it and learn from it. I

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have a lot of nieces and nephews and great nieces

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and nephews, and I've given it to 13 -year -olds

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and 14 -year -olds. I think it's a little bit

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of a stretch because a lot, well, for a number

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of reasons, but one of the reasons is that a

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lot of the examples are really geared towards

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adults. But that's why in the courses, I'm actually,

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most of the people who come to my courses are

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teachers. And so if I teach teachers these techniques,

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it helps them in their life, it helps them in

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their classroom. But they learn the techniques

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so that they can reach the kids. And they change

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it so that instead of using prefrontal cortex,

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they use upper brain. They use phrases that kids

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can learn. And I've had teachers in pre -K take

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the course and adapt some of the things in the

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book or the course so that young kids can start

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becoming much more aware of their mental states.

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Yeah, that's so interesting to me. I mean, I'm

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63 and I'm just now like Understanding where

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my brain has been. It's funny because I've always

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thought like doesn't like you like you only know

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what you know I remember being younger thinking

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doesn't everyone go to bed and think about what

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they did that day and doesn't everyone Self -reflect

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on what they could have done what they liked

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what they done, but they didn't like what they've

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done like That when then that was when there

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was no talk of mind shifting there was no talk

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of manifest Well, maybe there was manifestation,

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but I I you know Maybe I thought that was nothing

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that would be something that I would want to

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learn But I find this so interesting because

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as you get older you start to realize. Oh, yeah,

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I can stop it but what's what I'm curious about

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is What about Mitch? Not you being negative,

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but the negative influences around you talking

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to a friend. You're feeling happy Like I'm feeling

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all happy all good. I made some cookies. I'm

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in a good mood ring ring the phone rings and

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all of a sudden I feel like they're sabotaging

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me because now I'm hearing their stories and

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I'm like, oh gosh, is that negativity going to

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rub off on me because misery loves company. So

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what's going to happen? And then how do I do

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it? Do I just hang up and say, nope, nope, nope,

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not going to go with your negativity. You're

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going to make my brain negative click or Is there

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any lessons that would help me with that? Cause

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I really think about that a lot. There's so many

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people and I'm like, if I'm working so hard for

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happiness and success, I don't want even if I

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like, I want to help a friend, but I want that

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to become where I become negative. So I'd love

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your advice on that if you wouldn't mind. Okay.

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So there are tips in this book about that. And

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I will say that the second book, which is on

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conflict and collaboration, The whole book is

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about how you interact with other people and

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one of the big premises of that book, which is

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not on the website yet, because it'll be out

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in October, but one of the big premises in that

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book is that if you really want to influence

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another person and you're selling them, you're

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managing them, you're coaching them, you're parenting

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them, you're in a relationship with them. You

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have to be in resourceful mode if you want to

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have a long -term effect on them. So how do you

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steal yourself to be in resourceful mode? But

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a lot of that is also the stealing yourself is

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in this book because are you basically, not you

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personally, but as a human being, are we saying

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we're going to let somebody else control us?

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We don't have to. It's like, oh my gosh, this

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person is in a bad mood. That's, you know, the

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self -awareness and awareness of other people.

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It's like, I don't have to be in a bad mood.

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You know something, maybe I can make a game out

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of it right now. Let me see if I can respond

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in a happy mood and from a happy frame of mind

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10 times to their negativity and who changes

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first. Them being happy. or me being angry. So

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there's a number of tricks in the book that you

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can use in order to try to maintain your own

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happiness. In the long term, the more you're

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surrounded by people who lift you up, the more

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lifted up you're going to be. And you're not

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going to have to use up your energy forcing yourself

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to be in a resourceful, sage state of mind because

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the... because we have this tremendous urge to

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mimic whatever it is that other people are doing.

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And it takes energy to resist that. Oh my gosh.

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Is that like the old saying? Is that where the

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saying kind of came from? Misery loves company.

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Birds of a feather flock together. They all come

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from that. There's this tremendous urge. Well,

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I talk about in the book that there are five

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different types of actions that our survival

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brain chooses. One type of action is fighting.

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Another one is fleeing, freezing, and we talk

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about fight -flight or fight -flight -freeze

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often. But the third type is habits, the things

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that we can do without thinking of them. Like,

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you know, we just know what to do when we're

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driving and we see a stop sign. We're not...

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We have to actively think about it. So there's

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habits that we can build up or fluencies. And

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then the fifth thing is mimicry. So we have this

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tremendous need as people to do what our tribe

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is doing, to fit in, to learn from them. And

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for the most part, that's what's given us the

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ability as a race to become kind of the top alpha

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predator. We build buildings. We do things that

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no other species can do. But it's also got a

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negative side because we're trying to fit in,

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so we're subject to peer pressure. When we're

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talking to somebody and somebody gives us advice,

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when we're in really mimicry mode, what we're

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picking up... very often is oh my gosh they're

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saying they're judging me they're saying what

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i'm doing is good isn't good enough they're attacking

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me so instead of our our um mirror neurons picking

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up oh my gosh they're giving me some advice this

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could be really helpful our natural reaction

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is they're criticizing me they have something

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against me i have to strike back i have to say

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first of all I love what you're doing. I really

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want you to come on the chatter app, whether

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you're a guest or you enjoy it. I like, I like

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maybe doing a room and having you as a guest

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chatter. It's a really cool chatter social .io

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I talk about all the time. But one of the things

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that's interesting in chatter social is, and

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this is why I think you would really for your

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fourth book, because yes, we can see who it is.

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So it's, it's, it's audio, but it's also video

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too. And it's also, you know, just a variety

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of different things. You can run rooms and workshops

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and groups. I can interview you, Mitch, and talk

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about it. But what I've noticed, too, what's

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interesting is that we're all real people put

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on this app together. We're getting to know each

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other. I went to an event and I met about 40

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of them, of these great, wonderful people. They're

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all professionals. But it's amazing how it's

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almost like this... I'm not gonna say, like a

00:23:25.579 --> 00:23:27.920
little virus sometimes, and one person will come

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into a room and they'll share something that's,

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you know, tough to hear, and then all of a sudden

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it changes the vibe. And I think mind shifting

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is a conversation, but I haven't heard anyone

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really talk about how you're doing it. I think

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that you would get a kick. Sometimes I'm like,

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it's a social experiment we're all involved in.

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But they're all real people. What was that? I

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love experiments and you know it's just so much

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fun getting into a conversation with somebody

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where a person basically says you know this is

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what I'm facing and the two you know the two

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of us or the four of us however many people are

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there are like in this mode where it's almost

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as if we're one brain and we come up with different

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ways that that issue can be met. I love doing

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that. You're feeling a little bit out of control,

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but on the other hand, you're also feeling like,

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oh my gosh, I'm getting a chance to be creative.

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I'm doing stuff. I'm connecting with people.

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That would be great. I think it's great. And

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for all my friends out there that are podcast

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hosts, you can invite Mitch on your podcast,

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A Science of Mindshifting, Why Mindset Matters

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in Education. That one kind of leaves me breathless,

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like that is so true and so not talked about.

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The cognitive flexibility and success, I love

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that. The hidden traps in our own thinking. I,

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growing up in a family business, I definitely

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have some hidden traps preparing to fail. We

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hear that all the time. I'll do that, but I probably

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won't be that good. And actually I love, what

00:25:02.619 --> 00:25:04.220
I love about some of my friends on Chatter is

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that they will listen to your words. So when

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you're talking and they'll say, well, everything

00:25:08.380 --> 00:25:10.720
you said is great, Adrienne, but go back. Why

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did you just say, I can't do that? or I'm having

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a hard time, or I like AI, but sometimes any

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kind of software can be tough for me to handle.

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It's like, wait, you're already saying it's tough,

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so you're going into that. So I think people

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:30.059
always think of that. Well, so you advise entrepreneurs,

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salespeople on business. You work with their

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mindsets also, because how hard is it to advise

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a person when they're sure that everything that

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they're doing is already right? True, true. I

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noticed that it's easier to shift someone who

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doesn't know how to do something like me. Like,

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I wasn't really sure, you know, the silverware.

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Just a lot of things. How do you pick someone

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up in a car? And, you know, those like, you know,

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how to make the handshake, all of that. But if

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someone... is already coming with a sense like

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they know everything it's much tougher but if

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they're like oh I really need to know this and

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understand it and I maybe want to learn so I

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can teach my children then it's a different conversation.

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My guess is part of your coaching is people come

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to you and they're like I you know I really want

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to do this but I know that I can't and you can

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give them the tools and I'll bet you at the same

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time you also work on giving them the confidence

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to try the tools which is basically your mind

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shifting you're helping them. You are so right.

00:26:31.259 --> 00:26:32.779
Okay, I want to, I'm just going to go back here.

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I want to put in the comments. So you have a

00:26:36.259 --> 00:26:44.460
two free app. Let me just put this in the thing.

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So chatter social, because I am thinking that

00:26:50.740 --> 00:26:54.539
the other thing I could do is is also you have

00:26:54.539 --> 00:26:57.700
some podcasts here to listen to. Right. So we

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I could even have have you listening to the podcast.

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I'm really excited about this. I like the mind

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shifting to I like how you're calling it. You're

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not and I love and correct me if I'm wrong and

00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.200
don't be mad at me. But I love that this is not

00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.339
about manifesting because it feels like everyone

00:27:13.339 --> 00:27:15.799
wants to let's manifest our dream home. Let's

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manifest our our living on a cruise ship for

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the rest of our life. Yes. Mitch, I would like

00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:22.650
to live on a cruise ship for the rest of my life.

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But you're talking about shifting the mind, which

00:27:26.569 --> 00:27:30.490
to me is so important, even for even for little

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babies. Like when when my children started to

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cry, I would go, oh, let's sing a song together

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if you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.

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And isn't that why that song came out? If you're

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happy and you know it makes you think I'm happy

00:27:44.549 --> 00:27:47.750
you're clapping your hands. Well, again, think

00:27:47.750 --> 00:27:50.630
of young kids. A young kid is running and falls,

00:27:50.769 --> 00:27:54.369
okay? When the adult or the parent looks at the

00:27:54.369 --> 00:27:57.430
kid and has a sense of horror, the kid knows

00:27:57.430 --> 00:27:59.269
something is wrong and starts crying. The kid

00:27:59.269 --> 00:28:02.490
falls and the adult is saying, what a great fall!

00:28:02.569 --> 00:28:04.390
That was so fantastic! You think you can do it

00:28:04.390 --> 00:28:07.849
again? You know, like, they're happy. It's just

00:28:07.849 --> 00:28:11.759
the brain, right? Oh, I love this. And I love,

00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.220
I'm going to say this out loud too, so don't

00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:16.160
be mad at me again, Mitch. But I love that you're

00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:18.779
older and wiser. And you know, it's hard for

00:28:18.779 --> 00:28:20.500
me to learn something like this from someone,

00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:23.259
I'm sorry, but in their 20s, who hasn't had the

00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:25.799
experience and the wisdom to even understand.

00:28:26.269 --> 00:28:28.849
how your mind can shift. So I'm going to say

00:28:28.849 --> 00:28:31.769
in this case, I really love that you're a little

00:28:31.769 --> 00:28:34.150
older because I think that just shows you've

00:28:34.150 --> 00:28:38.009
had a lifetime experience too. It's funny as

00:28:38.009 --> 00:28:40.190
you bring that up because the first time like

00:28:40.190 --> 00:28:43.829
it hit me, I was out with a group of people who

00:28:43.829 --> 00:28:48.349
were in their 40s and we were hiking and the

00:28:48.349 --> 00:28:50.650
hiking was pretty hard, but you know, but it

00:28:50.650 --> 00:28:53.450
was fine. Some of them actually tired before

00:28:53.450 --> 00:28:57.190
I did. And, you know, we're kind of at the end

00:28:57.190 --> 00:28:59.450
and one of the women comes up to me and she says,

00:28:59.470 --> 00:29:03.549
Mitch, you know, I just want to be just like

00:29:03.549 --> 00:29:07.490
you when I'm old. And I was like, I'm sorry,

00:29:07.549 --> 00:29:12.049
that's not a compliment. But that, you know,

00:29:12.069 --> 00:29:14.349
when but that's when it hit me like, oh, my gosh,

00:29:14.450 --> 00:29:20.369
I'm 70 or 71 years old. I guess I'm old. Oh,

00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:24.359
well. But is it that her mind shift too? So it'd

00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:26.500
be interesting because she should really shift

00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:29.099
that mind shift to a it's not a nice thing to

00:29:29.099 --> 00:29:34.119
say I mean it really is that and be I would say

00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.039
something like Mitch I I hope I have as much

00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.089
wisdom and experiences you have had to be able

00:29:41.089 --> 00:29:43.910
to even write that book. So to me, it's not age.

00:29:44.170 --> 00:29:47.170
I mean, it is age, because you can't be 25 years

00:29:47.170 --> 00:29:50.190
old and become a life coach. I guess you can.

00:29:50.309 --> 00:29:52.490
I don't mean to say you can't. But how am I?

00:29:52.619 --> 00:29:55.740
And I guess you would be OK for another 25 -year

00:29:55.740 --> 00:29:58.519
-old. So if that's what you want to do or you

00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:00.559
want to talk about mind shifting at 25, then

00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.759
your audience should be your age. To me, my audience

00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.519
needs to be wiser and experienced and understanding.

00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:13.700
Now, I love that I've never met anyone that took

00:30:13.700 --> 00:30:17.480
the mind shifting into the education process.

00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:20.329
And A, because that's so tough. I mean, we know

00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:22.670
that with educators, they're opening up the book

00:30:22.670 --> 00:30:24.569
and they got to get through their math and science

00:30:24.569 --> 00:30:27.950
and history and all of that. That usually they

00:30:27.950 --> 00:30:30.410
don't have enough time to do something like this,

00:30:30.430 --> 00:30:33.670
which is to me a shame because this to me could

00:30:33.670 --> 00:30:37.569
go under character development because you're

00:30:37.569 --> 00:30:40.289
helping them to build that character. Am I correct?

00:30:40.329 --> 00:30:44.150
Am I thinking you're you're 100 % correct? It's

00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:50.250
so I. My. My love would be for every kid to grow

00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:53.789
up and have the skills so that they could be

00:30:53.789 --> 00:30:58.289
successful and live happy lives, okay? And these

00:30:58.289 --> 00:31:02.009
mind -shifting skills will accelerate that. When

00:31:02.009 --> 00:31:04.890
I talk to superintendents about this and say,

00:31:04.950 --> 00:31:06.710
you know, you could bring this into your schools,

00:31:07.490 --> 00:31:10.390
and I'll just make sure that, you know, that

00:31:10.390 --> 00:31:12.670
the teachers get it, and they're saying, wow,

00:31:12.750 --> 00:31:14.509
you know something, this is exactly what I want

00:31:14.509 --> 00:31:17.230
to happen in my district. And as soon as we get

00:31:17.230 --> 00:31:19.029
our test scores up, this is what we're going

00:31:19.029 --> 00:31:24.569
to do. And it's just like, you miss it. The train

00:31:24.569 --> 00:31:27.549
for test scores has gone out of the station.

00:31:27.849 --> 00:31:30.509
It's like, we're not going to do the same things

00:31:30.509 --> 00:31:32.710
and raise test scores. We have to be trying new

00:31:32.710 --> 00:31:35.529
things. But you don't get fired from doing the

00:31:35.529 --> 00:31:38.089
same things as everybody else. So people are

00:31:38.089 --> 00:31:39.869
thinking about, well, we need to prepare kids

00:31:39.869 --> 00:31:41.450
for the test so that their achievement scores

00:31:41.450 --> 00:31:45.069
go up. I think we need to prepare kids how to

00:31:45.069 --> 00:31:48.890
think, how to resist the charms of social media,

00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:54.349
how to take pride in doing the work rather than

00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:56.769
just looking for an easy A and going to AI and

00:31:56.769 --> 00:31:59.670
have the AI do the work for yourself. Have kids

00:31:59.670 --> 00:32:02.529
take charge of their own lives. And when we can

00:32:02.529 --> 00:32:05.769
teach kids how to do that, then they're going

00:32:05.769 --> 00:32:08.630
to be successful and their achievement levels

00:32:08.630 --> 00:32:10.990
are going to go up. And that's what my hope is.

00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:16.109
What did this fall under, like rationalization?

00:32:17.089 --> 00:32:19.890
I'm trying to think, like, because you're teaching

00:32:19.890 --> 00:32:23.049
them, it's almost like, because who knows how

00:32:23.049 --> 00:32:25.109
many of these students are like, ooh, I didn't

00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:27.210
really think about my brain. Maybe I want to

00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:29.630
go into the study of the brain and do something

00:32:29.630 --> 00:32:34.039
else, but isn't it also... allows them to be

00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:38.660
able to debate and have conversation and rationalize

00:32:38.660 --> 00:32:41.920
things a little better if they understand mind

00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.400
-shifting, not only their own minds, but other...

00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.119
Right. And a lot of the lessons just could be

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.500
taught in the nooks and crannies when a kid does

00:32:51.500 --> 00:32:53.480
something and doesn't succeed, and you have a

00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.099
chance to say, well, wait a minute, you know,

00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.460
like, you took this test, you didn't get the

00:32:58.460 --> 00:33:01.220
grades that you want, what did you learn from

00:33:01.220 --> 00:33:07.730
this? You took this test, you're upset. Of course,

00:33:08.230 --> 00:33:10.589
this is what your survival brain does, is it

00:33:10.589 --> 00:33:13.509
gets down on you. Just relax for a minute. OK,

00:33:13.569 --> 00:33:15.369
did you learn something for relaxing for a minute?

00:33:16.430 --> 00:33:19.190
What's going to happen next? So when teachers

00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:21.849
know these techniques, it just changes the way

00:33:21.849 --> 00:33:24.829
they approach kids in those times where there's

00:33:24.829 --> 00:33:29.269
a teachable moment. They can maybe fit it in

00:33:29.269 --> 00:33:33.910
because ideally a teacher can spend a day or

00:33:33.910 --> 00:33:37.869
two on establishing certain mind -shifting rules

00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:41.230
or protocols with the class so that when the

00:33:41.230 --> 00:33:43.990
events come up, instead of trying to discipline

00:33:43.990 --> 00:33:46.990
or deal with them at that point, it's like you

00:33:46.990 --> 00:33:50.650
remember that we used this technique at the beginning

00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:54.799
of the school year. that was designed for this

00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:57.160
type of situation, how are we gonna use this

00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.420
technique? And instead of taking an hour to repull

00:34:00.420 --> 00:34:02.859
the class together, you've done it in five or

00:34:02.859 --> 00:34:07.180
10 minutes. So you've actually saved time. Oops,

00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:10.099
I think you're, you might be muted, I can't hear

00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:13.880
you. Yep, you're still muted. I am, thank you

00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.039
so much. I was, thank you, yeah, my dog was barking.

00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:19.860
I was also thinking, I love your blog, so I wanted

00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:21.599
to see where I could sign up for your newsletter.

00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:24.230
Oh, thank you. Where do I sign? Oh, social drive

00:34:24.230 --> 00:34:27.230
now. You guys, go on the newsletter. The other

00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:29.010
thing I think, which, oh my God, would have been

00:34:29.010 --> 00:34:34.469
so helpful if, as a kid, I raised my hand. I

00:34:34.469 --> 00:34:36.610
don't think I'll do well on this test with Sally

00:34:36.610 --> 00:34:39.570
because I don't know anything about it and I

00:34:39.570 --> 00:34:42.789
didn't study and I'm really confused and I didn't

00:34:42.789 --> 00:34:44.670
sleep very well and I'm actually really hungry.

00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.940
Like, you know what I mean? Like, I've always

00:34:47.940 --> 00:34:50.159
remembered that teachers would just say, well,

00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:52.880
you should then make sure you study at night

00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.139
and get something to eat or here's the bar or

00:34:55.139 --> 00:34:58.019
whatever it may be. But like, I, oh my God, I

00:34:58.019 --> 00:35:00.480
loving like this whole concept where you could,

00:35:00.659 --> 00:35:02.420
where the teacher could say something like, wait,

00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.480
wait, wait, wait, wait. class everyone let's

00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.800
help to shift the mind right right everybody

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:10.599
you you know there's a there's a test coming

00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:13.059
up at an hour how who's feeling anxious about

00:35:13.059 --> 00:35:15.599
it you know something let's just do a little

00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.860
bit of a reset and let's calm our minds down

00:35:18.860 --> 00:35:21.099
now how do you feel do you feel more resourceful

00:35:21.099 --> 00:35:22.900
okay that means you're probably gonna do much

00:35:22.900 --> 00:35:27.739
better on the test i I am just, I can't even

00:35:27.739 --> 00:35:30.440
explain to you how much I think that this is

00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.559
just really so important to all of us. Okay,

00:35:34.739 --> 00:35:36.800
I just joined. Thank you. Look, you guys, join

00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.820
the newsletter. Look at everything that Mitch

00:35:39.820 --> 00:35:41.579
is doing. I had something else I wanted to say.

00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.739
Oh, wait, I'm on another, oh, I like this. So

00:35:44.739 --> 00:35:47.599
Mindshifting website. Okay, we're back to your

00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.559
website. But now I'm interested. Podcast. Okay.

00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:54.639
All right. So here. Oh, you guys. Yeah. You want

00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.780
to book Mitch on podcasts. Definitely. Look at

00:35:57.780 --> 00:36:00.760
this. This is really good stuff here. So what's

00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.000
going up is the page on the website that says

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.119
in education. So I think, okay, there we go.

00:36:09.260 --> 00:36:12.019
There we go. This is the blog website, right?

00:36:12.460 --> 00:36:14.360
Where's me? Oh, it is. Okay. Where are you located

00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.639
by the way? You don't have to tell me just like,

00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:18.519
no, I'm just, I'm just outside of New York city.

00:36:18.699 --> 00:36:21.579
I'm in, uh, well, Marinette, New York. Oh, Oh,

00:36:21.579 --> 00:36:24.420
I'm a Connecticut girl. Oh, I grew up in Connecticut.

00:36:24.500 --> 00:36:26.559
I grew up in Stanford, Connecticut. Oh, you did.

00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.480
I love that. Oh, my gosh. I love it. OK, I'm

00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:30.840
coming back. I'm going to get rid of everything

00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.079
here. So it's just the two of us again. This

00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:37.239
has been really, really interesting. I just can't

00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.500
explain to you how, as I'm older, at 63, it's

00:36:40.500 --> 00:36:43.880
easy to understand. Not older than me. No. There

00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:45.719
you go. No, I don't feel old. To be honest with

00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.980
you, I literally don't feel old. I mean, I have

00:36:47.980 --> 00:36:50.440
wrinkles that remind me when I look in the mirror.

00:36:51.139 --> 00:36:54.159
I don't feel like, oh, I'm old because I still

00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.920
have young heart or maybe my mind shift is one

00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.400
of young and fun. I mean, I, you know, because

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.059
at the end of the day, if I want to learn something,

00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.019
it's got to have a little bit of fun to it. It's

00:37:04.019 --> 00:37:06.159
got to be exciting. So I guess there's a kid.

00:37:06.699 --> 00:37:08.480
You look like a person who loves being around

00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:13.260
kids. I do. I love kids more than anything in

00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:15.519
the world. It's so much. It's so much fun. All

00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.079
right. I'll tell you my biggest challenge right

00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:19.679
now with my mind shift, not about education.

00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.579
It's. It's about when I go to the pool or when

00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:26.619
I go to the beach. It's so hard for me. I have

00:37:26.619 --> 00:37:29.969
to stop. Like watching parents not watch their

00:37:29.969 --> 00:37:32.489
kids. Like I go there and I cannot stand that

00:37:32.489 --> 00:37:35.170
I'm seeing children and we almost had two drownings

00:37:35.170 --> 00:37:37.289
over the weekend. And I'm like, and then the

00:37:37.289 --> 00:37:39.010
parents are yelling at me like mind your own

00:37:39.010 --> 00:37:41.449
business and stay out of it. And one called me

00:37:41.449 --> 00:37:43.710
a pedophile cause I was staring because I was

00:37:43.710 --> 00:37:45.869
like, are you watching your kid or not? Because

00:37:45.869 --> 00:37:47.909
I'm like, but then I'm like, Adrian, you got

00:37:47.909 --> 00:37:50.610
to stop this like mind shift. Well, I can't take

00:37:50.610 --> 00:37:52.730
care of everyone's child and it's ruining my

00:37:52.730 --> 00:37:55.510
time and it's causing my friends to get irritated

00:37:55.510 --> 00:38:01.929
with me. So is there. for that? So first of all

00:38:01.929 --> 00:38:04.349
what you're doing and what you're concerned about

00:38:04.349 --> 00:38:08.349
is so important so you should pat yourself on

00:38:08.349 --> 00:38:12.469
the back for that and then it's just a matter

00:38:12.469 --> 00:38:17.639
like we can't We can't control everything, so

00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.920
it's to focus on what are one or two things that

00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.699
I think that I might be able to control, and

00:38:23.699 --> 00:38:25.539
or what are two things that are gonna make me

00:38:25.539 --> 00:38:27.980
happy right now, and just focus on one or two

00:38:27.980 --> 00:38:32.559
things. There's so many different ways of doing

00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:36.880
it, and those might work for you. If not, there

00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.369
are more. book so you could take a look at the

00:38:39.369 --> 00:38:41.250
book too. I am going to buy the book. I am going

00:38:41.250 --> 00:38:43.489
to buy the book for myself and my daughter because

00:38:43.489 --> 00:38:46.789
I want to learn more because I definitely believe

00:38:46.789 --> 00:38:48.949
it and understand it. All right so Mitch I'm

00:38:48.949 --> 00:38:52.269
going to have so this is going to go into a podcast.

00:38:53.150 --> 00:38:55.170
I do have a few ahead but it's going to go into

00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:57.829
the podcast with all the show notes and the way

00:38:57.829 --> 00:38:59.730
to reach you but you guys get on the podcast

00:38:59.730 --> 00:39:04.519
all of Mitch's The socials are there. The blogs

00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.219
are there. Mitch, I will get back to you. First

00:39:07.219 --> 00:39:09.840
thing to do is just join Chatter Social. Just

00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.139
join with your name. You can add all of your

00:39:12.139 --> 00:39:13.880
socials if you have any questions. Is that on

00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:18.039
your website? No, I don't have. I'm just a beta.

00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:20.820
It started in June. Well, have you ever heard

00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:24.199
of Clubhouse? Yes. OK, so I loved Clubhouse.

00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:26.579
I didn't love love like all the teaching rooms

00:39:26.579 --> 00:39:29.139
at Clubhouse. So funny enough. of every Thursday

00:39:29.139 --> 00:39:32.920
morning on Breakfast with Champions, I do a,

00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.920
you know, like a workshop from 730 to 830. And

00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.199
by the way, Fridays are with David Meltzer and

00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:41.679
Ramon Ray is amazing. There's some amazing, like

00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.579
all the speakers are incredible. That's on Clubhouse.

00:39:43.619 --> 00:39:45.559
That's on Clubhouse, Breakfast with Champions.

00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:48.639
And then I enjoy these rooms like Million Marathon

00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.579
and I love to bake the news. They were just fun.

00:39:51.739 --> 00:39:54.920
front rooms and I was following this young man

00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.960
named Nelson Apega who at the time was 25 and

00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.800
I just thought he was really real and authentic

00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.579
and funny and the conversations and everything

00:40:02.579 --> 00:40:04.599
to him was like a show and it felt like a show

00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.619
it was a place where I could close my eyes and

00:40:06.619 --> 00:40:09.820
you know it was alive and interactive. And then

00:40:09.820 --> 00:40:12.420
he realized all the things that he would like

00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:15.000
to have that he couldn't have. Because then he

00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.320
was on spaces and he attracted like thousands

00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.639
of people, him and Jonathan Bing, who's a host

00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.159
of Debate the News. And then they developed Chatter

00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:23.900
Social and I raised my hand. I'm like, I want

00:40:23.900 --> 00:40:26.280
to be a beta tester so bad. So it started in

00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.179
June. Now it is public and it's also integrated

00:40:29.179 --> 00:40:33.199
with Blue Sky, which is fabulous. And I deliver

00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.400
the Dateline news. So I deliver news for Debate

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.900
the News at night. usually around the 9, 30,

00:40:38.900 --> 00:40:41.079
10 o 'clock mark. But you know what? I get my

00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:44.260
news from the Clear Media Project, which is Ella

00:40:44.260 --> 00:40:46.739
Green, who's amazing. I curate the news. And

00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:49.280
then I do True Crime with Joseph, which is so

00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.239
much fun. And then I do some other rooms. But

00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.760
like this conversation and having you on it.

00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:56.880
So there is money to be made. There's called

00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.320
Rockets. And you know, if you do a great room,

00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.519
people will send you right away. They'll give

00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.920
you Rockets. But there's so much more to it.

00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.760
These are all very strong, professional people.

00:41:06.829 --> 00:41:11.010
And a lot of people are talking about mind manifestation

00:41:11.010 --> 00:41:12.949
and similar to what you're doing, but they're

00:41:12.949 --> 00:41:16.489
not experts in it, right? They maybe read the

00:41:16.489 --> 00:41:18.269
book. It would be like my reading the book and

00:41:18.269 --> 00:41:21.539
then doing a workshop on it. But since you're

00:41:21.539 --> 00:41:24.199
in New York, also would love to have you as a

00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.980
guest on Breakfast with Champions where you can

00:41:26.980 --> 00:41:30.139
take my spot and I introduce you and then you

00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:32.000
do some mind shifting. So definitely you and

00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.780
I are going to talk about this because I feel

00:41:34.780 --> 00:41:37.800
like that would be really, really great for you.

00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.059
And I'll just look good because, you know, I

00:41:40.059 --> 00:41:42.960
brought you in, but that's about it. Chat or

00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:46.679
social .com? Chatter. It's chatter. So I like

00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.769
chatter, social .io. Yeah. Okay, it's really

00:41:49.769 --> 00:41:53.090
cool. C -H -A -T -T -E -R, social. Yep, dot I

00:41:53.090 --> 00:41:55.250
-O. The nice thing, too, is that you can stream

00:41:55.250 --> 00:41:58.030
from it. So, like, there's a computer so I can

00:41:58.030 --> 00:42:01.250
actually go in and I can stream. Like, True Crime,

00:42:01.630 --> 00:42:03.590
we're doing The Staircase, a story of Michael

00:42:03.590 --> 00:42:06.769
Peterson. So, yesterday I streamed, like, from

00:42:06.769 --> 00:42:09.110
Netflix, some of the different things. So, also,

00:42:09.210 --> 00:42:11.269
you know, if you have videos or programs, they

00:42:11.269 --> 00:42:14.190
can be streamed. So, yeah, let's talk because

00:42:14.190 --> 00:42:16.630
I think that it would be good for you. There

00:42:16.630 --> 00:42:19.139
are teachers on it. Um, and in the meantime,

00:42:19.380 --> 00:42:22.639
there's just all of us that need to understand

00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.719
better our minds. So I, Mitch, thank you so,

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:27.840
so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you for

00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.219
having me on. Thank you for a wonderful conversation.

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.619
Thank you for your enthusiasm. Oh, thank you.

00:42:33.179 --> 00:42:36.179
You transmit that. It's just like, oh my gosh,

00:42:36.539 --> 00:42:38.760
I'm basking in it. You know, it's funny. That

00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.019
was the only thing like selling like I've had

00:42:41.019 --> 00:42:42.559
more people say, you know, Adrian, you're not

00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:44.739
the lowest price. You're not blah, blah, blah.

00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.260
But your passion is what has has fueled them

00:42:48.260 --> 00:42:50.480
to come to me, which is good. Is there anything

00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.699
I should have asked you that I didn't? Anything

00:42:52.699 --> 00:42:58.260
you want to promote? I don't know. My wife's

00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:00.980
great. You didn't ask me about my wife. Your

00:43:00.980 --> 00:43:03.599
wife, you said? Yeah, my wife, my wife, my wife,

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.050
my wife, my wife. My dad, my mom and dad were

00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:10.449
married just two months before the 70th year

00:43:10.449 --> 00:43:13.309
anniversary. And my dad used to say, what people

00:43:13.309 --> 00:43:15.210
would say, what's the secret? My dad would say,

00:43:15.429 --> 00:43:20.789
Gloria is 50 % right and I am 50 % wrong. Okay.

00:43:20.969 --> 00:43:24.409
Yeah. Well, my mom, my mom's was, she actually

00:43:24.409 --> 00:43:26.469
wrote a book on how do you stay happily married

00:43:26.469 --> 00:43:29.550
for 60 years. And in that book, you know, somebody

00:43:29.550 --> 00:43:32.670
that somebody then asked her like, So, do you

00:43:32.670 --> 00:43:35.369
ever consider divorce? And she says, divorce?

00:43:35.670 --> 00:43:40.550
Never. Murder? Yes, but never divorce. What is

00:43:40.550 --> 00:43:44.690
your mom's book? I think it was called, How to

00:43:44.690 --> 00:43:47.190
Stay Happily Married for 60 Years. I don't even

00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:49.969
know if it's still out, but her name was Frankie,

00:43:50.030 --> 00:43:52.550
Frankie Weisberg. Wait, married after 60 years?

00:43:52.849 --> 00:43:55.550
Right. Oh my God, what year is this that she

00:43:55.550 --> 00:43:58.230
wrote a book? That's incredible. Probably around

00:43:58.230 --> 00:44:01.550
15 years ago. Oh my God, I'll have to look for

00:44:01.550 --> 00:44:04.750
it. Oh, I don't see it coming out. How to stay

00:44:04.750 --> 00:44:08.050
happily married after 60 years? Yeah, I'll look

00:44:08.050 --> 00:44:11.289
for how I can find it. Oh my God, just wondering

00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:13.889
if she spelled out the 60 years. Let me see if

00:44:13.889 --> 00:44:19.289
that makes a difference. My sister is a publisher,

00:44:19.630 --> 00:44:22.369
and so she published it with my sister. So I

00:44:22.369 --> 00:44:26.150
will find the exact wording. And I'll find out

00:44:26.150 --> 00:44:28.650
how to get the book. Maybe it's time to relive

00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:31.710
that book again and bring it back. Yeah. Because

00:44:31.710 --> 00:44:34.650
actually, it would be fun. So, oh, that is really

00:44:34.650 --> 00:44:37.389
cool. OK, Mitch, thank you. Have a great rest

00:44:37.389 --> 00:44:41.670
of the day. From us New Englanders, that's why.

00:44:42.030 --> 00:44:44.769
Oh, yeah. Oh, if you're ever back in Connecticut,

00:44:44.889 --> 00:44:47.889
let me just pitch this to you. In Cheshire, Connecticut,

00:44:48.130 --> 00:44:50.849
in the middle of the state, my parents left their

00:44:50.849 --> 00:44:55.900
legacy, which is a toy museum. And it is. Marker

00:44:55.900 --> 00:44:58.320
Cartoon Character and Comic Museum, and it's

00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.880
80 ,000 toys that are all amazing. And it's really,

00:45:02.940 --> 00:45:04.320
my parents did it because they, well, they love

00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:05.940
toys. They were kids, the kids at heart too,

00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.340
but they love sharing the history behind the

00:45:08.340 --> 00:45:10.480
toys. So it's really for all ages. So if you

00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.420
ever find yourself in that Cheshire area, stop

00:45:13.420 --> 00:45:15.920
by. It's an hour and a half away. Oh, it's really

00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.019
great. I think it's free this summer too. So

00:45:19.019 --> 00:45:22.039
either way, it's like $5. My dad for years, he

00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.099
had it for free. And then now that we have some

00:45:24.099 --> 00:45:26.679
museum direct... but the landscape and all of

00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.639
that, but yes. Take a look at the Disney toothpaste

00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:33.960
that had lead in it. Disney gave you a little

00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:35.719
lead for that toothpaste. All right, I'm gonna

00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.179
end the stream. Thank you so much. This is great.

00:45:38.420 --> 00:45:39.199
Thank you, Adrienne.