June 20, 2025
Is Your Fridge a Spy? The Alarming Truth About Smart Devices
What if your Roomba was actually the weakest link in your home's security?
đź“ť Episode Summary:
In this candid and eye-opening episode, Adrienne welcomes Chris Carter, a global tech entrepreneur and AI-IoT security expert, for a conversation that makes you side-eye your smart refrigerator. Broadcasting from his office in Wisconsin—complete with Bret Michaels’ guitar and hat—Chris breaks down the real risks behind everyday smart devices and how hackers are using them as entry points into your home and business. The duo dives deep into cybersecurity, IOT, AI, RFID vulnerabilities, and even what happens when your Roomba turns rogue. From true crime scenarios to Walmart's fridge tech, it's an unforgettable discussion with just the right balance of humor and caution.
🧠5 Key Takeaways:
- Every Smart Device is a Potential Target Your smart fridge, Roomba, light bulbs, and even baby monitors can be entry points for cyberattacks if not secured properly.
- The Password Problem is Real Many users never change default passwords. Hackers count on this. One, two, three, four? You're basically inviting them in.
- The Internet of Things Needs a Watchdog Chris created "Overwatch," an AI-driven cybersecurity tool that protects and monitors IoT ecosystems in real time using a green-yellow-red alert system.
- Smart Tech Can Reveal Your Absence If a connected device isn’t used for days, a hacker could infer you're away—raising home invasion risks. Yes, even your Roomba’s usage data matters.
- Retail, Gas Stations & Fraud Chris gives real examples of skimmers, security camera hacks, and credit card theft—and how simple diligence can save your wallet and your identity.
đź’¬ Notable Quotes from Chris Carter:
“If it connects to Wi-Fi, it needs to be protected—period.”
“I started the company in my basement, moved to the attic, and now we’re a global operation with 173 employees.”
“Hackers don’t need to come through the front door. They come through your lightbulbs.”
Website for Chris: https://approyo.com/blog/christopher-carter.php
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Okay. I messed up. So Chris, I'm going to just
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tell everyone cause I need to be accountable.
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I was, I got so caught into doing a proposal
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that I forgot and I'm sitting in a different
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room. So Alexa was not helping me and Suri just,
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I had to fire Suri, which I think I turned on
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Chris's Suri, but anyway, so welcome to Chris
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Carter. Okay. So Chris is brave. because he's
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doing a live with me and he has no clue who I
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am. He's bald, obviously, and he's bald. I finally
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got the bald person. I can say it. I love it.
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So Chris, this is a question I have to ask everyone
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because I did zero prep, zero. Who are you? Where
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do you live? What you do? Tell me. I'm Chris
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Carter. I actually live on a lake here in northern
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Wisconsin, and it's beautifully 77 degrees today.
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So I'll say that. sit in this beautiful office
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with Brett Michael's guitar over my shoulder
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and his hat that smells like him. And I work
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on AI and SAP and cloud and technology all day
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long for companies around the globe. Whoa. OK,
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let's first talk about Brett Michael, right?
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Because I didn't know anything about him, but
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I saw him and really liked him on The Apprentice.
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Yes, yes. And that was when I was like, oh my
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God, we have to not see these celebrities just
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as like, I don't like their music, so I don't
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like him. But I did not like his music, but I
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really fell for him and The Apprentice. So how
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did you get it? So I'm very fortunate. I invited
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myself and nine friends for a New Year's Eve
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celebration in Northern Wisconsin at the Wisconsin
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Dells to do a meet and greet. And as part of
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that, I got the guitar. and when he found out
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I was the one that gave that gift to all my friends
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he gave me his hat and everybody got to spend
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time with him and too much time because we made
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the concert start late because we were all having
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fun with him in the back room and it was so much
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fun and he couldn't have been a nicer person
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oh i love that story the hat right off his head
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right off his head oh my god that's what you
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mean it smells a little like him i love that
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yes it still does all these years later Oh my,
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who is he married to? It's a woman that they've
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got two children with, I believe. Yeah, I really
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haven't followed him. I haven't heard a lot about
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him since The Apprentice. Yeah, I love his music
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and I've seen him now several times in concert
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and he's, we just love him. It's a, he's hairband.
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I feel like, I'm sorry. I don't know if it's
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me or not. Let me, I love that. All right, let
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me get rid of my outlook. So Chris. All right.
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Claude and. Well, since it's just me and the
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world. There we go. I was going to tell a funny
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joke to the rest of the world. There you are.
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You're back. I love that. I want to hear a funny
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joke. Hi. So I use those. I do host a true crime
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and I debate the news. I run the Sunshine Scoop,
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so I use GROK for the research. But what do you
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do? Because I heard AI and I'm curious, what
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are you building? Because I love the idea of
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you're building something. Yeah, I'm working
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on building the AI Internet of Things. So using
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AI and its predictive analytics for the Internet
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of Things and grabbing data from all these connected
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devices to be able to help people either in a
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positive way or in a cost -efficient way, which
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is positive as well, and bring that all together
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in one nice, neat, clean package. But then on
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top of that, companies can use that data. To
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benefit the applications and to benefit the machine.
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So say you're let's look at your house You've
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got an IOT based refrigerator. You got an IOT
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based microwave You got an Alexa or a Siri in
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there up and they're just said again And you've
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got all these tools that get connected together
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Now you take all that information and companies
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can use that to help better your cost controls
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your electric bills Etc, etc, and it just brings
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it all together and was nice clean package. Wow,
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so is this like using an AI agent? Yes, you would
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use agents on each device from a predictive analytics
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standpoint, bring that data all together into
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one single repository, and then being able to
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understand what's the consumption usage of each,
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what are you utilizing each, be able to monitor
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each to make sure that those devices can get
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scanned from a cybersecurity standpoint. So you
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need to monitor those because they're Wi -Fi
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connected. And so you're taking all those IOT
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devices and you're bringing them all together
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in one nice clean dashboard. And our tool is
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called Overwatch, kind of like the Overlord,
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but the Overwatch. And it protects everything,
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but yet it monitors and understands what's all
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happening with it. I need a case study because
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a lot of that went right over my head. Look at
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it. It's flying away. I'm like, come back. Would
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you mind like just putting it into like a label
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in terms of like I'm six, but no, like some kind
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of case study so I can understand. So most of
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the time it's companies that sell these products
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like Kenmore or Sony or LG. They want, if you
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connect everything together, protect them. So
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when you, when you attach your refrigerator to
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an internet, it becomes an internet of things.
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So now you're part of the IOT network. So that
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needs to be protected, first of all, because
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it's a device, and it can get cybersecurity hammered.
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You don't want a virus on your refrigerator that's
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going to then go into your network in your house.
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Really? I had no idea. So, oh my gosh, wait,
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so how long have you been doing this for? So
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I've been playing in technology since the 1980s,
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and I started digging into the IoT activities
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about 10 years ago. And then I built the AI tool
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wrapped around it. to have it monitor and manage
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and bring all that data together about three
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years ago now. Wow. So I can imagine like so
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a lot of these smart homes, where would it fit
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with a smart home or a company or builder? Literally
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on top of the home. It would be your protective
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dome for all the bad things coming in. It would
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get rid of them and it would keep all the goodness
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of the internet connected devices all safe. understanding
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what data is being utilized and then being able
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to support you for energy efficiencies and trackability
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and traceability. I love that. And baby monitors
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too? Oh yes. Oh yes. As a matter of fact, I did
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an interview on Newsmax TV about two years ago
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about how people were getting into baby monitors
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and how our tool would be able to support them.
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It's crazy how this breaks. Can you share? I'll
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share that with you. You got it. I'll send that
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to you. No, but I mean, right now, can you share?
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Because some people don't think. They're like,
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it's a baby monitor. I can monitor my child.
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What bad can happen? So a baby monitor uses Wi
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-Fi networks or RFID, which is radio communications.
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People have devices called a hacking tool that
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will literally go into a baby monitor. So imagine
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you have a camera sitting there on top of your
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room and it's watching the entire room for your
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child. People can hack it. If it can get to the
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internet, it can be hacked. And there were multiple
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cases because individuals typically do not, and
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this is a big strong term, they do not change
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the passwords when they come from the factory.
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When they undo it, they just deploy it. Everybody
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knows what those passwords are. One, two, three,
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four, five, six. If you're on a NetServ, if you're
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on one of the NetGears, it's usually one, two,
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three, or it's zero, zero, zero, zero, or there's
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even one that says, it comes from the factory,
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it says password. And people just don't even,
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what about ring cameras? What about the ring
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cameras? So ring cameras are a little bit more
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secured because you have to go through an authentication
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process with your with your phones in with your
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apps Now the nice thing with that is because
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you're running an authentication program You
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have to literally either use your face or you
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have to use a secondary code User ID password
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and then an authentication code that is much
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more difficult to break into Well, hold on, my
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kids, stop it, guys. My dog and cat are fighting.
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Who would think they fight? Wait, okay, so smart
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products, so smart home products. I love that
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you went into that niche. What made you go into
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this particular niche? So it was interesting.
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I was reading an article about the Netgear Wi
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-Fis, and they got hacked about five years ago.
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And I'm a technologist by trade. play with cloud
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computing and SAP software and others. And I
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started looking at it and I thought, there's
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a lot more behind this. And so I started developing
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some tools on how you could monitor for companies
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who literally just deploy these systems out into
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the world. And they don't change the passwords.
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They don't do anything. There's no 23 -bit encryption.
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There's no 12 -letter passwords. And I thought,
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OK, there's got to be more people getting hacked
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than what we know about. Well, then there was
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some major hacks that happened that same year
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where tens of thousands of people's systems got
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hacked. And I said, OK, got to figure out a way
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how we can protect this. And so the IOT was the
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format. And I just said, we are going to support
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the Internet of Things and we're going to make
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it happen. And that's what we started doing.
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I really can't wait to go down like the rabbit
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hole later. So what about cars, smart cars? any
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V like I would have called nevs so you'd absolutely
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could go in there we have any deployments with
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any of the smart cars as of yet but I did buy
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a Tesla just so we could play with it and I love
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being able to all the fur babies are good I got
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two of them over there thank you I've got with
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a with the Tesla Tesla is based on a open source
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solution. So being able to get all that information
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into an open source application and being able
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to monitor it. We're still trying to play with
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some of the things on how you can and can't do,
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especially once you pull it into your garage
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and being able to check it. Our hope is that
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we can validate what's going on in the system
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before you then back up and start driving it
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again. That's what we want to try to test and
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because it is just to your home. So I guess e
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-bikes too would be another one. Okay, so what
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are some of the criminal things that do happen
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that I wouldn't think of? Oh, so let's start
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back with those baby monitors. There are thousands
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of cases of people breaking into the baby monitor
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through the Wi -Fi connection and monitoring
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the house. and looking at the houses of what's
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going on in those facilities. Oh, they can see
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your child, you mean, on the camera. They can
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see you. They can see what's going on in those
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rooms. They can talk to the child, too, right?
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People will talk to them. Absolutely correct.
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So that's the lowest common denominator. That
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one happens a lot. It's getting better because
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people are learning that they can change the
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passwords on these devices. Number two, any time
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you buy a Wi -Fi device from a store, The first
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thing you need to do is instead of having the
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user ID and password, the little card that they
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give you that's on the little sticky, you instantly
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need to go in and you need to change the password
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because every single one will come with a standard
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password for certain models. Other models have
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better password security with it, but some are
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still the standard password or 12345, etc. That's
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two. Three. I tell people this all the time.
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If they're going to a grocery store, a gas station,
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or if you're going to like a 7 -Eleven or some
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type of a quickie mart type thing, before you
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put your card into that device with your chip,
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take your hand and just kind of pull on the very
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bottom of it. Just check it. Because there are
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so many occasions where snippers, it's a little
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device that goes into the front where you would
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put your card in. Walmart or wherever that little
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black box that people don't realize that they
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can put a little sniffer there and you would
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never know it was there. Just take your hand
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and just go over the top of where you would put
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your card in. Just give it a little tug. If it
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pulls, don't put your card in. If it stays fine
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and it takes the whole machine and rocks it back
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and forth, you're 99 % good. That is a big one.
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What about the people that could walk by you
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and grab your information from an RFID reader
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maybe? So those are a little bit more difficult.
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With people with credit cards nowadays, most
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of those credit cards have a chip on it. And
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if you've got a chip on it, the chip is going
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to protect you in most cases. Now if you have
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a credit card and all it has is the strip in
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the back, that strip needs to be red. It's a
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little bit more difficult to just walk past somebody
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and to get that information. What that RFID reader
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is doing is most of the times it's reading devices,
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not necessarily your credit card as it goes through.
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Because you would still have to swipe that little
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magnetic strip in order for all that data to
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come off of it. So it makes it a little bit more
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difficult. But RFID readers out there can pull
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details off of your phones and your iPads and
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your different readers that you have out there
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your laptops as well Okay, that's really interesting.
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Okay, let's go back to the gas station the pump
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for a second Why wouldn't and oh like why weren't
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the owner of these gas stations say to their
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staff? Hey, let's every day. Let's check our
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art Like don't they take let's check our machines
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and they do the test they don't and you know
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what? Plausible deniability and we didn't know
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How are we supposed to go out there? You know,
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we change the paper and that's all we do. 99
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% of the time they're leasing those machines
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from a company that managers and manages them.
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That's the company that should be doing it. But
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they should be going out there and just taking
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their hand and it happens all the time. Every
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day before they open they just double check.
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I think that would be a good thing. I was lucky
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enough I found one one time. I literally was
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about to put my hand in and I just kind of took
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my hand and all of a sudden There it was it had
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the device. It was all connected. It was colored
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up and there was a little Wi -Fi There was a
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little antenna inside of it and I was like busted
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and I took it into and he was like I don't know
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anything about it. Oh My god, so you show the
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owner of the company who just said and what do
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you want me to do? He didn't care didn't care
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What do people do if they find that do they call
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the broke it? I just snapped and broke it So
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what do they say we should do? So you report
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it. Let the police know if anything. Let them
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know it's at this facility. They've been hacked.
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By that time, they've probably got hundreds if
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not thousands of credit card details because
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you do have to punch in the code sometimes, especially
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if it's a debit card. These cameras are costing
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us a ton of money. It is crazy. Okay, what about
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retail stores? What about, our family has art
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galleries. How do we protect our art gallery,
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let's say, or anyone who has a retail store?
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Well, retail start with the same thing. They
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have those devices. If you're using a stripe
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or if you're using PayPal, make sure you're working
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with the person or the company that is giving
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you the device and you monitor that yourself
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and your organization. From an art gallery perspective,
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you're probably getting people to write bigger
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checks, or they're going to be POs because typically
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artwork is a little bit more expensive than those
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activities. So you're going to have to want to
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monitor that. Be diligent about fake dollars,
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fake 20s, fake hundreds. If somebody comes in
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with rolls of $100 bills, starts ripping them
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up, make sure you take the highlighter pen that's
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out there and validate that. But it all comes
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down to just being aware of your surroundings
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and what you're working with and what you're
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working on. So you're saying so go back to like
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companies have security cameras. Are those mostly
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protected? For the most part, yes, especially
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if they're hardwired. I know I have multiple
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here in my office as well as my offices. Those
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are all hardwired and they go into a specific
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device that has been hardwired in with our organization.
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and monitored as well. Most people don't do that.
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They just throw up the blink cameras, or they
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throw up the ring doorbells, and they hope that
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that's going to secure them. Most of the time
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it is because you do have a two -factor authentication.
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And once you do that and you get to that point,
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just make sure you have a much stronger password
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along with it. Wow. OK, what have I forgotten?
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What else have you seen that we wouldn't think
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about? Yeah, one of the things that everybody
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should be thinking about is just be diligent
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on what you're doing. We use technology for everything
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from the websites. I've got websites. We're on
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our website right now. Make sure that you're
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changing your passwords. Make sure you're not
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using the same password over and over and over
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for every single thing you do because once one
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oh I know I'm I was there as well. I hated my
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CIO for all those activities and making those
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changes. I could do that every 30 days. But,
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you know, if you want to be safe, especially
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your bank accounts, if you're using a computer
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for your bank accounts, change your passwords
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every 30 days. I know it can be a pain in the
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butt, but would you rather have that or hundreds
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of thousands and tens of thousands of dollars
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missing all of a sudden out of the blue? You
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are so right. I love this. Are we missing anything
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else? Let me think for a second. What else has
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So the internet of the you know, it's funny I
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didn't really I guess when I heard the term internet
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of things I never thought to really get the define
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it. So to me it was the internet I never thought
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it was more like, you know, these smart pieces
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or the smart refrigerators. What happens if someone
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hacks a smart or Roomba? What happens if someone's
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something like my Roomba or my refrigerator gets
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attacked? So what they want to do is they want
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to be able to store a security breach on that
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device. So imagine you. So my Roomba is connected
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in my phone. I know it's connected to the Wi
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-Fi in my house. So your Roomba has to be connected
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to Wi -Fi. All an intruder needs to do is be
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able to get the right access into that device
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to store a malicious attack. Now it may not go
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off today, tomorrow, next year, but if you've
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got that Roomba connected to your Wi -Fi in your
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house, now all of a sudden everything in your
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house that's connected to that Wi -Fi can be
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attacked just because it's connected to the Roomba.
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And that's where why the IoT needs to be protected.
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And that's why an AI tool, the AI IoT protection
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needs to be sitting on there to protect everybody.
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Because one little device, one little Roomba
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can store the criminal capabilities of somebody
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in a bad player in some other country, we'll
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just say. I'm not going to name them because
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we all know the country. But they could actually,
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could they like So first I want to say light
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bulbs too, because I've gotten those like light
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bulbs that change colors and stuff and they're
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yeah. Anything that is in your home that connects
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to this device right here? That's on a Wi -Fi
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connection or a Bluetooth connection. So crazy
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that I didn't even think about this. OK, so now
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I'm a criminal. I've got into your phone. I got
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into your I mean I got into your refrigerator
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and I got into your Roomba and I've noticed that
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you haven't used it for two weeks. You haven't
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opened up your door. in two weeks, I could maybe
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assume that you are on a long vacation or something.
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So am I thinking the right way, like a true crime?
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Think of the true crime, because there are doors
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with automatic locks. My daughter has an automated
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lock system that she can hit a button on her
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phone and she can open up her front door. And
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that door, if it's not open for multiple days,
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A criminal could be monitoring just that app
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to say, oh, I think she's gone. That door hasn't
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been open for three or four days. Now they start
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to watch and they start watching your home. Now
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they may not do it that day. They may not do
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it that week, but all of a sudden they're going
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to notice that you're gone for multiple days.
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Like my daughter is a paramedic EMT nurse. She
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goes out for 72 hours at a crack. All of a sudden
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somebody knows that she's gone. 24 hours she's
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gone. And then all of a sudden, They can open
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up your pattern I Never thought about that. The
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scammers are so bad. It is crazy. I I'm Fascinated
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by this. This is really that's why I love doing
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this. So so are your clients like fortune 500
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are like Yes, most of my because we work with
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companies to help them understand put a piece
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of protection over each of the houses that you're
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gonna be Deploying all these IOT apps with and
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being able to do the Internet of Things for these
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smart homes. I work with housing developments
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that are going to put in these devices from your
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solar panels on your roof down to every refrigerator,
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freezer, microwave, oven, to Roombas, whatever
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you're going to put in there. If you're going
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to greenify your home and you're going to start
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using these types of devices to monitor them.
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Let's monitor everything all the way out to your
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swimming pool. We can monitor how often you heat
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or cool your swimming pool, depending upon if
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you turn it off at night, if you turn it on during
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the day, all those things can be tracked and
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supported. No, keep going. I'm just so curious.
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What about, OK, so what about retail like Wal
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-Mart? So they've got all their refrigerators
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in there and they are kept at the right temperature
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so they're using the internet of things they
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have they're all smart but someone could go in
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and turn them all off in the middle of the night
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would they get would they be that would they
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be notified do people put alarms on would be
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notifications that would go out of systems being
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shut down or activities um uh an activity that
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falls outside of the parameters of the applications
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these are all of a sudden gone we need to have
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somebody manually come in what's going on is
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there we have a we call it the green red yellow
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um just like a stop sign signals it should always
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be green if all of a sudden something kicks in
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the yellow that's when a human being gets involved
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and starts monitoring and looking at the devices
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if it's red that means it's been shut off something
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has happened either power outage is there or
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some type of activities or connection is going
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bad And it helps with monitoring that. Well,
00:24:26.690 --> 00:24:28.470
sometimes it's so funny. I think back in the
00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:30.630
day, growing up in a family business, we had
00:24:30.630 --> 00:24:32.970
the IT person on staff that was like, oh, my
00:24:32.970 --> 00:24:34.950
God, they could handle any of the problems on
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our Internet. But this is so far going. So how
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many people in your company? One hundred and
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seventy three. Is this your business? Yes. Well,
00:24:44.529 --> 00:24:46.970
you are employing a hundred in Wisconsin or all
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over all over the globe, all over the globe.
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We have to be global because there are organizations
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that we run help and support and all over Europe
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and North America. I started the company out
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of my basement and then moved it to my attic.
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And we just continue to grow and grow and grow.
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Oh, my God. I love this. And so why are you why
00:25:06.410 --> 00:25:08.910
are you on my podcast? What is your goal to get
00:25:08.910 --> 00:25:11.630
on people's podcasts? I just want people to understand
00:25:11.630 --> 00:25:13.589
that they need to be prepared, you know, just
00:25:13.589 --> 00:25:16.650
like this is a no prep needed. They do need to
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be prepared for the Internet and for the failures
00:25:19.410 --> 00:25:22.509
and for the security and for the activities be.
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mindful and be secure. So the technology that's
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out it's evolving and you ne Is there something
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that I' I have a daughter who's 19 are the young
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teens or the what would they be? Is th that we
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:53.119
haven't thought o possibly have and they're She
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got herself off to tick -tock a year or so ago.
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Why? It's so bad. Oh, it's horrible. I've been
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on multiple TV shows where I've talked about
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.740
the security aspects of what's being gathered
00:26:04.740 --> 00:26:08.940
and what's being sent to a foreign country and
00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:11.960
they now have all of your information. Now, they
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:13.799
keep coming back and they say, oh, we're not
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.700
doing it. Well, if you've got my facial profile
00:26:16.700 --> 00:26:18.880
or if you've got your facial profile and they
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start going into and they're using So do you
00:26:22.339 --> 00:26:25.319
remember the movie with Tom Cruise minority report?
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Yes. Bingo! Thank you very much. They can use
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that data to be able to do other bad things against
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you, against maybe some activity that you get
00:26:37.900 --> 00:26:41.319
going. It takes my face to open up my phone.
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.819
Okay, well if they have my face and they can
00:26:44.819 --> 00:26:47.700
utilize that in some way shape or form and they're
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tracking every minutia of data against you and
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.519
they're filing that in a repository, imagine
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what they have. They have got so much data on
00:27:00.220 --> 00:27:03.599
us. It is incredible. People don't think that
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.359
they do what they do. There are bad actor activities
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.880
wrapped around that all the time. You know what's
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.059
crazy to me is sometimes I don't even recognize
00:27:12.059 --> 00:27:15.490
myself in the morning. But yeah, Siri does. I
00:27:15.490 --> 00:27:18.369
wake up looking horrible, and then I'll do my
00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:20.589
face, and I'm like, how does it even know me?
00:27:20.910 --> 00:27:24.089
It's so crazy. OK, so I had something else I
00:27:24.089 --> 00:27:28.660
wanted to ask you. Oh, body parts. So prosthetics,
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is there anything? Because we were talking last
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night, I'm on ChatterSocial, one of my favorite
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places to play. It's a social audio, it's a video,
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so it's all real conversations with real people,
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a lot of real professionals. But we're talking
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about how like, what years ago, what sci -fi
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looked like, and I just did not like sci -fi,
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like the $6 million man, which by the way, everyone
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in the room was fairly young, because when I
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mentioned that, they didn't know what I was talking
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about. They were like, robot man, and I'm like,
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No, they don't remember who Lindsay Wagner is.
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Is that crazy? But anyways, Bionic Woman. Yeah,
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right. But oh, that was the name of the show
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Bionic Woman. But are they doing anything now?
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Or is there like chips that are being used in
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body parts? I know it's crazy to ask. Well, actually,
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if you look at Elon Musk just planted a chip
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into his third ALS patient and the ALS patient
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took the ability with his with his brain chip
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and was able to edit and create audio for a video.
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It was crazy. Oh, I gotta look that up. Okay,
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we have to look that up and Google that. Maybe
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we'll find it on X. Yes, you should be able to.
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They were talking about it. Let's see. I just
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read about it two days ago. Yeah, I think it
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was two days ago where I read about how this
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third individual who's got the chip in his brain
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has literally been able to edit a video. with
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using his brain because he's an ALS patient.
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You mean ALS, amyotropic, like the ALS, like
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a muscular dystrophy? Yeah, ALS. Wow. Wow. No,
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I have not read that. That is really interesting.
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OK, I got it. Oh, I'm going to use that tonight
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for the sunshine scoop. I deliver the daily news,
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a little dose of fun. I love this. I've really
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enjoyed our conversation. I had no idea, but
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this is cool. Thank you so much. I've had a great
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time. I love hanging out with you. Oh my gosh,
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I think this will be turned into a podcast, but
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I really am just so in 173. I think you said
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employees. That's pretty amazing. Is anyone else
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in your family involved? No, they don't like
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technology at all. I'm there. I'm their technology
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worker in the house. I fix everything for them.
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That is so funny. Oh my gosh. All right, so I'll
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get your website. I'll get all your information
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so I can share it all. And thank you for spreading
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the word. It sounds like your real goal is to
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just spread the word on like what is about. And
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so, and by the way, you guys, if you are living
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in a home that is a smart home, definitely who
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would they contact to make sure, contact you
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to make sure. Everything is protected. Wow. I
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love this. Chris, thank you. Thank you so much
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for waiting for me. I apologize. I need a chip
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in my brain, right? You and me both, I want one.
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I actually applied for that and I didn't get
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it because I didn't have a major illness like
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ALS. Applied for it? You did? Yeah. There was
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an application process? Application process.
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They're working with individuals with ALS first
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and foremost. to try to help bring them a better
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life. And I love that. And I was like, OK, I'm
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not going to complain. I love that, too. I worked
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for Muscular Dystrophy Association for 12 years.
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I did meet Jerry Lewis. I made him so mad at
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me a couple of times, because one time he was
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playing tennis, and I kept touching. I kept getting
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his ball up the game, doing a good thing. Like,
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here's your tennis balls I throw back. Finally,
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he stood there in his Jerry Lewis voice and told
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me to leave his balls alone. as only Jerry could.
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Exactly, exactly. But I love, love, love MDA.
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So I love that they're doing that because so
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many great ALS patients that really just need
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something like this. All right. Thank you so
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much, Chris. Have a great rest of the day. I
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look forward to it. You'll be airing in about
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four weeks and I'll tag you on LinkedIn. Let
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me know. I'll make sure we promote. Oh, you're
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awesome. Thank you so much. Fantastic. Talk to
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you soon. Have a great rest of the day. You too.
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Thank you for being brave and bold and bald.
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Okay. I messed up. So Chris, I'm going to just
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tell everyone cause I need to be accountable.
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I was, I got so caught into doing a proposal
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that I forgot and I'm sitting in a different
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room. So Alexa was not helping me and Suri just,
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I had to fire Suri, which I think I turned on
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Chris's Suri, but anyway, so welcome to Chris
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Carter. Okay. So Chris is brave. because he's
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doing a live with me and he has no clue who I
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am. He's bald, obviously, and he's bald. I finally
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got the bald person. I can say it. I love it.
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So Chris, this is a question I have to ask everyone
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because I did zero prep, zero. Who are you? Where
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do you live? What you do? Tell me. I'm Chris
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Carter. I actually live on a lake here in northern
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Wisconsin, and it's beautifully 77 degrees today.
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So I'll say that. sit in this beautiful office
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with Brett Michael's guitar over my shoulder
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and his hat that smells like him. And I work
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on AI and SAP and cloud and technology all day
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long for companies around the globe. Whoa. OK,
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let's first talk about Brett Michael, right?
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Because I didn't know anything about him, but
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I saw him and really liked him on The Apprentice.
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Yes, yes. And that was when I was like, oh my
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God, we have to not see these celebrities just
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as like, I don't like their music, so I don't
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like him. But I did not like his music, but I
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really fell for him and The Apprentice. So how
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did you get it? So I'm very fortunate. I invited
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myself and nine friends for a New Year's Eve
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celebration in Northern Wisconsin at the Wisconsin
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Dells to do a meet and greet. And as part of
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that, I got the guitar. and when he found out
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I was the one that gave that gift to all my friends
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he gave me his hat and everybody got to spend
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time with him and too much time because we made
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the concert start late because we were all having
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fun with him in the back room and it was so much
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fun and he couldn't have been a nicer person
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oh i love that story the hat right off his head
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right off his head oh my god that's what you
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mean it smells a little like him i love that
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yes it still does all these years later Oh my,
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who is he married to? It's a woman that they've
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got two children with, I believe. Yeah, I really
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haven't followed him. I haven't heard a lot about
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him since The Apprentice. Yeah, I love his music
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and I've seen him now several times in concert
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and he's, we just love him. It's a, he's hairband.
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I feel like, I'm sorry. I don't know if it's
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me or not. Let me, I love that. All right, let
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me get rid of my outlook. So Chris. All right.
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Claude and. Well, since it's just me and the
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world. There we go. I was going to tell a funny
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joke to the rest of the world. There you are.
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You're back. I love that. I want to hear a funny
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joke. Hi. So I use those. I do host a true crime
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and I debate the news. I run the Sunshine Scoop,
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so I use GROK for the research. But what do you
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do? Because I heard AI and I'm curious, what
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are you building? Because I love the idea of
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you're building something. Yeah, I'm working
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on building the AI Internet of Things. So using
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AI and its predictive analytics for the Internet
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of Things and grabbing data from all these connected
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devices to be able to help people either in a
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positive way or in a cost -efficient way, which
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is positive as well, and bring that all together
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in one nice, neat, clean package. But then on
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top of that, companies can use that data. To
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benefit the applications and to benefit the machine.
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So say you're let's look at your house You've
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got an IOT based refrigerator. You got an IOT
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based microwave You got an Alexa or a Siri in
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there up and they're just said again And you've
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got all these tools that get connected together
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Now you take all that information and companies
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can use that to help better your cost controls
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your electric bills Etc, etc, and it just brings
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it all together and was nice clean package. Wow,
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so is this like using an AI agent? Yes, you would
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use agents on each device from a predictive analytics
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standpoint, bring that data all together into
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one single repository, and then being able to
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understand what's the consumption usage of each,
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what are you utilizing each, be able to monitor
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each to make sure that those devices can get
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scanned from a cybersecurity standpoint. So you
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need to monitor those because they're Wi -Fi
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connected. And so you're taking all those IOT
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devices and you're bringing them all together
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in one nice clean dashboard. And our tool is
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called Overwatch, kind of like the Overlord,
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but the Overwatch. And it protects everything,
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but yet it monitors and understands what's all
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happening with it. I need a case study because
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a lot of that went right over my head. Look at
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it. It's flying away. I'm like, come back. Would
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you mind like just putting it into like a label
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in terms of like I'm six, but no, like some kind
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of case study so I can understand. So most of
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the time it's companies that sell these products
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like Kenmore or Sony or LG. They want, if you
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connect everything together, protect them. So
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when you, when you attach your refrigerator to
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an internet, it becomes an internet of things.
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So now you're part of the IOT network. So that
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needs to be protected, first of all, because
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it's a device, and it can get cybersecurity hammered.
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You don't want a virus on your refrigerator that's
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going to then go into your network in your house.
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Really? I had no idea. So, oh my gosh, wait,
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so how long have you been doing this for? So
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I've been playing in technology since the 1980s,
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and I started digging into the IoT activities
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about 10 years ago. And then I built the AI tool
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wrapped around it. to have it monitor and manage
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and bring all that data together about three
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years ago now. Wow. So I can imagine like so
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a lot of these smart homes, where would it fit
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with a smart home or a company or builder? Literally
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on top of the home. It would be your protective
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dome for all the bad things coming in. It would
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get rid of them and it would keep all the goodness
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of the internet connected devices all safe. understanding
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what data is being utilized and then being able
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to support you for energy efficiencies and trackability
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and traceability. I love that. And baby monitors
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too? Oh yes. Oh yes. As a matter of fact, I did
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an interview on Newsmax TV about two years ago
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about how people were getting into baby monitors
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and how our tool would be able to support them.
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It's crazy how this breaks. Can you share? I'll
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share that with you. You got it. I'll send that
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to you. No, but I mean, right now, can you share?
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Because some people don't think. They're like,
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it's a baby monitor. I can monitor my child.
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What bad can happen? So a baby monitor uses Wi
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-Fi networks or RFID, which is radio communications.
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People have devices called a hacking tool that
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will literally go into a baby monitor. So imagine
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you have a camera sitting there on top of your
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room and it's watching the entire room for your
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child. People can hack it. If it can get to the
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internet, it can be hacked. And there were multiple
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cases because individuals typically do not, and
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this is a big strong term, they do not change
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the passwords when they come from the factory.
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When they undo it, they just deploy it. Everybody
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knows what those passwords are. One, two, three,
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four, five, six. If you're on a NetServ, if you're
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on one of the NetGears, it's usually one, two,
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three, or it's zero, zero, zero, zero, or there's
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even one that says, it comes from the factory,
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it says password. And people just don't even,
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what about ring cameras? What about the ring
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cameras? So ring cameras are a little bit more
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secured because you have to go through an authentication
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process with your with your phones in with your
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apps Now the nice thing with that is because
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you're running an authentication program You
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have to literally either use your face or you
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have to use a secondary code User ID password
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and then an authentication code that is much
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more difficult to break into Well, hold on, my
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kids, stop it, guys. My dog and cat are fighting.
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Who would think they fight? Wait, okay, so smart
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products, so smart home products. I love that
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you went into that niche. What made you go into
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this particular niche? So it was interesting.
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I was reading an article about the Netgear Wi
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-Fis, and they got hacked about five years ago.
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And I'm a technologist by trade. play with cloud
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computing and SAP software and others. And I
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started looking at it and I thought, there's
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a lot more behind this. And so I started developing
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some tools on how you could monitor for companies
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who literally just deploy these systems out into
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the world. And they don't change the passwords.
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They don't do anything. There's no 23 -bit encryption.
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There's no 12 -letter passwords. And I thought,
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OK, there's got to be more people getting hacked
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than what we know about. Well, then there was
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some major hacks that happened that same year
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where tens of thousands of people's systems got
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hacked. And I said, OK, got to figure out a way
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how we can protect this. And so the IOT was the
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format. And I just said, we are going to support
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the Internet of Things and we're going to make
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it happen. And that's what we started doing.
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I really can't wait to go down like the rabbit
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hole later. So what about cars, smart cars? any
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V like I would have called nevs so you'd absolutely
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could go in there we have any deployments with
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any of the smart cars as of yet but I did buy
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a Tesla just so we could play with it and I love
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being able to all the fur babies are good I got
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two of them over there thank you I've got with
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a with the Tesla Tesla is based on a open source
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solution. So being able to get all that information
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into an open source application and being able
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to monitor it. We're still trying to play with
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some of the things on how you can and can't do,
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especially once you pull it into your garage
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and being able to check it. Our hope is that
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we can validate what's going on in the system
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before you then back up and start driving it
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again. That's what we want to try to test and
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because it is just to your home. So I guess e
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-bikes too would be another one. Okay, so what
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are some of the criminal things that do happen
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that I wouldn't think of? Oh, so let's start
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back with those baby monitors. There are thousands
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of cases of people breaking into the baby monitor
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through the Wi -Fi connection and monitoring
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the house. and looking at the houses of what's
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going on in those facilities. Oh, they can see
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your child, you mean, on the camera. They can
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see you. They can see what's going on in those
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rooms. They can talk to the child, too, right?
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People will talk to them. Absolutely correct.
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So that's the lowest common denominator. That
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one happens a lot. It's getting better because
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people are learning that they can change the
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passwords on these devices. Number two, any time
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you buy a Wi -Fi device from a store, The first
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thing you need to do is instead of having the
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user ID and password, the little card that they
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give you that's on the little sticky, you instantly
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need to go in and you need to change the password
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because every single one will come with a standard
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password for certain models. Other models have
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better password security with it, but some are
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still the standard password or 12345, etc. That's
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two. Three. I tell people this all the time.
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If they're going to a grocery store, a gas station,
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or if you're going to like a 7 -Eleven or some
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type of a quickie mart type thing, before you
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put your card into that device with your chip,
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take your hand and just kind of pull on the very
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bottom of it. Just check it. Because there are
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so many occasions where snippers, it's a little
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device that goes into the front where you would
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put your card in. Walmart or wherever that little
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black box that people don't realize that they
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can put a little sniffer there and you would
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never know it was there. Just take your hand
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and just go over the top of where you would put
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your card in. Just give it a little tug. If it
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pulls, don't put your card in. If it stays fine
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and it takes the whole machine and rocks it back
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and forth, you're 99 % good. That is a big one.
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What about the people that could walk by you
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and grab your information from an RFID reader
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maybe? So those are a little bit more difficult.
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With people with credit cards nowadays, most
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of those credit cards have a chip on it. And
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if you've got a chip on it, the chip is going
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to protect you in most cases. Now if you have
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a credit card and all it has is the strip in
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the back, that strip needs to be red. It's a
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little bit more difficult to just walk past somebody
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and to get that information. What that RFID reader
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is doing is most of the times it's reading devices,
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not necessarily your credit card as it goes through.
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Because you would still have to swipe that little
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magnetic strip in order for all that data to
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come off of it. So it makes it a little bit more
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difficult. But RFID readers out there can pull
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details off of your phones and your iPads and
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your different readers that you have out there
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your laptops as well Okay, that's really interesting.
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Okay, let's go back to the gas station the pump
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for a second Why wouldn't and oh like why weren't
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the owner of these gas stations say to their
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staff? Hey, let's every day. Let's check our
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art Like don't they take let's check our machines
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and they do the test they don't and you know
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what? Plausible deniability and we didn't know
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How are we supposed to go out there? You know,
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we change the paper and that's all we do. 99
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% of the time they're leasing those machines
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from a company that managers and manages them.
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That's the company that should be doing it. But
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they should be going out there and just taking
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their hand and it happens all the time. Every
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day before they open they just double check.
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I think that would be a good thing. I was lucky
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enough I found one one time. I literally was
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about to put my hand in and I just kind of took
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my hand and all of a sudden There it was it had
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the device. It was all connected. It was colored
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up and there was a little Wi -Fi There was a
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little antenna inside of it and I was like busted
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and I took it into and he was like I don't know
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anything about it. Oh My god, so you show the
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owner of the company who just said and what do
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you want me to do? He didn't care didn't care
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What do people do if they find that do they call
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the broke it? I just snapped and broke it So
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what do they say we should do? So you report
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it. Let the police know if anything. Let them
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know it's at this facility. They've been hacked.
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By that time, they've probably got hundreds if
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not thousands of credit card details because
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you do have to punch in the code sometimes, especially
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if it's a debit card. These cameras are costing
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us a ton of money. It is crazy. Okay, what about
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retail stores? What about, our family has art
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galleries. How do we protect our art gallery,
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let's say, or anyone who has a retail store?
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Well, retail start with the same thing. They
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have those devices. If you're using a stripe
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or if you're using PayPal, make sure you're working
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with the person or the company that is giving
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you the device and you monitor that yourself
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and your organization. From an art gallery perspective,
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you're probably getting people to write bigger
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checks, or they're going to be POs because typically
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artwork is a little bit more expensive than those
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activities. So you're going to have to want to
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monitor that. Be diligent about fake dollars,
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fake 20s, fake hundreds. If somebody comes in
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with rolls of $100 bills, starts ripping them
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up, make sure you take the highlighter pen that's
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out there and validate that. But it all comes
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down to just being aware of your surroundings
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and what you're working with and what you're
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working on. So you're saying so go back to like
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companies have security cameras. Are those mostly
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protected? For the most part, yes, especially
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if they're hardwired. I know I have multiple
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here in my office as well as my offices. Those
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are all hardwired and they go into a specific
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device that has been hardwired in with our organization.
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and monitored as well. Most people don't do that.
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They just throw up the blink cameras, or they
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throw up the ring doorbells, and they hope that
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that's going to secure them. Most of the time
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it is because you do have a two -factor authentication.
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And once you do that and you get to that point,
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just make sure you have a much stronger password
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along with it. Wow. OK, what have I forgotten?
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What else have you seen that we wouldn't think
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about? Yeah, one of the things that everybody
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should be thinking about is just be diligent
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on what you're doing. We use technology for everything
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from the websites. I've got websites. We're on
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our website right now. Make sure that you're
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changing your passwords. Make sure you're not
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using the same password over and over and over
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for every single thing you do because once one
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oh I know I'm I was there as well. I hated my
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CIO for all those activities and making those
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changes. I could do that every 30 days. But,
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you know, if you want to be safe, especially
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your bank accounts, if you're using a computer
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for your bank accounts, change your passwords
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every 30 days. I know it can be a pain in the
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butt, but would you rather have that or hundreds
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of thousands and tens of thousands of dollars
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missing all of a sudden out of the blue? You
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are so right. I love this. Are we missing anything
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else? Let me think for a second. What else has
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So the internet of the you know, it's funny I
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didn't really I guess when I heard the term internet
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of things I never thought to really get the define
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it. So to me it was the internet I never thought
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it was more like, you know, these smart pieces
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or the smart refrigerators. What happens if someone
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hacks a smart or Roomba? What happens if someone's
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something like my Roomba or my refrigerator gets
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attacked? So what they want to do is they want
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to be able to store a security breach on that
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device. So imagine you. So my Roomba is connected
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in my phone. I know it's connected to the Wi
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-Fi in my house. So your Roomba has to be connected
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to Wi -Fi. All an intruder needs to do is be
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able to get the right access into that device
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to store a malicious attack. Now it may not go
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off today, tomorrow, next year, but if you've
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got that Roomba connected to your Wi -Fi in your
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house, now all of a sudden everything in your
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house that's connected to that Wi -Fi can be
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attacked just because it's connected to the Roomba.
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And that's where why the IoT needs to be protected.
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And that's why an AI tool, the AI IoT protection
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needs to be sitting on there to protect everybody.
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Because one little device, one little Roomba
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can store the criminal capabilities of somebody
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in a bad player in some other country, we'll
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just say. I'm not going to name them because
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we all know the country. But they could actually,
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could they like So first I want to say light
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bulbs too, because I've gotten those like light
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bulbs that change colors and stuff and they're
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yeah. Anything that is in your home that connects
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to this device right here? That's on a Wi -Fi
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connection or a Bluetooth connection. So crazy
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that I didn't even think about this. OK, so now
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I'm a criminal. I've got into your phone. I got
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into your I mean I got into your refrigerator
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and I got into your Roomba and I've noticed that
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you haven't used it for two weeks. You haven't
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opened up your door. in two weeks, I could maybe
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assume that you are on a long vacation or something.
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So am I thinking the right way, like a true crime?
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Think of the true crime, because there are doors
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with automatic locks. My daughter has an automated
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lock system that she can hit a button on her
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phone and she can open up her front door. And
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that door, if it's not open for multiple days,
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A criminal could be monitoring just that app
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to say, oh, I think she's gone. That door hasn't
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been open for three or four days. Now they start
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to watch and they start watching your home. Now
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they may not do it that day. They may not do
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it that week, but all of a sudden they're going
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to notice that you're gone for multiple days.
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Like my daughter is a paramedic EMT nurse. She
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goes out for 72 hours at a crack. All of a sudden
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somebody knows that she's gone. 24 hours she's
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gone. And then all of a sudden, They can open
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up your pattern I Never thought about that. The
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scammers are so bad. It is crazy. I I'm Fascinated
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by this. This is really that's why I love doing
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this. So so are your clients like fortune 500
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are like Yes, most of my because we work with
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companies to help them understand put a piece
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of protection over each of the houses that you're
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gonna be Deploying all these IOT apps with and
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being able to do the Internet of Things for these
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smart homes. I work with housing developments
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that are going to put in these devices from your
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solar panels on your roof down to every refrigerator,
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freezer, microwave, oven, to Roombas, whatever
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you're going to put in there. If you're going
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to greenify your home and you're going to start
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using these types of devices to monitor them.
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Let's monitor everything all the way out to your
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swimming pool. We can monitor how often you heat
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or cool your swimming pool, depending upon if
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you turn it off at night, if you turn it on during
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the day, all those things can be tracked and
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supported. No, keep going. I'm just so curious.
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What about, OK, so what about retail like Wal
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-Mart? So they've got all their refrigerators
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in there and they are kept at the right temperature
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so they're using the internet of things they
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have they're all smart but someone could go in
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and turn them all off in the middle of the night
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would they get would they be that would they
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be notified do people put alarms on would be
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notifications that would go out of systems being
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shut down or activities um uh an activity that
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falls outside of the parameters of the applications
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these are all of a sudden gone we need to have
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somebody manually come in what's going on is
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there we have a we call it the green red yellow
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um just like a stop sign signals it should always
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be green if all of a sudden something kicks in
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the yellow that's when a human being gets involved
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and starts monitoring and looking at the devices
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if it's red that means it's been shut off something
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has happened either power outage is there or
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some type of activities or connection is going
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bad And it helps with monitoring that. Well,
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sometimes it's so funny. I think back in the
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day, growing up in a family business, we had
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the IT person on staff that was like, oh, my
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God, they could handle any of the problems on
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our Internet. But this is so far going. So how
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many people in your company? One hundred and
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seventy three. Is this your business? Yes. Well,
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you are employing a hundred in Wisconsin or all
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over all over the globe, all over the globe.
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We have to be global because there are organizations
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that we run help and support and all over Europe
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and North America. I started the company out
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of my basement and then moved it to my attic.
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And we just continue to grow and grow and grow.
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Oh, my God. I love this. And so why are you why
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are you on my podcast? What is your goal to get
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on people's podcasts? I just want people to understand
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that they need to be prepared, you know, just
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like this is a no prep needed. They do need to
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be prepared for the Internet and for the failures
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and for the security and for the activities be.
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mindful and be secure. So the technology that's
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out it's evolving and you ne Is there something
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that I' I have a daughter who's 19 are the young
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teens or the what would they be? Is th that we
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haven't thought o possibly have and they're She
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got herself off to tick -tock a year or so ago.
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Why? It's so bad. Oh, it's horrible. I've been
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on multiple TV shows where I've talked about
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the security aspects of what's being gathered
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and what's being sent to a foreign country and
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they now have all of your information. Now, they
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keep coming back and they say, oh, we're not
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doing it. Well, if you've got my facial profile
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or if you've got your facial profile and they
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start going into and they're using So do you
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remember the movie with Tom Cruise minority report?
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Yes. Bingo! Thank you very much. They can use
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that data to be able to do other bad things against
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you, against maybe some activity that you get
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going. It takes my face to open up my phone.
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.819
Okay, well if they have my face and they can
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utilize that in some way shape or form and they're
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tracking every minutia of data against you and
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they're filing that in a repository, imagine
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what they have. They have got so much data on
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us. It is incredible. People don't think that
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they do what they do. There are bad actor activities
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wrapped around that all the time. You know what's
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.059
crazy to me is sometimes I don't even recognize
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myself in the morning. But yeah, Siri does. I
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wake up looking horrible, and then I'll do my
00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:20.589
face, and I'm like, how does it even know me?
00:27:20.910 --> 00:27:24.089
It's so crazy. OK, so I had something else I
00:27:24.089 --> 00:27:28.660
wanted to ask you. Oh, body parts. So prosthetics,
00:27:28.779 --> 00:27:30.839
is there anything? Because we were talking last
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night, I'm on ChatterSocial, one of my favorite
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.819
places to play. It's a social audio, it's a video,
00:27:36.819 --> 00:27:39.000
so it's all real conversations with real people,
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:40.980
a lot of real professionals. But we're talking
00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:43.460
about how like, what years ago, what sci -fi
00:27:43.460 --> 00:27:46.400
looked like, and I just did not like sci -fi,
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:50.720
like the $6 million man, which by the way, everyone
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.140
in the room was fairly young, because when I
00:27:52.140 --> 00:27:53.880
mentioned that, they didn't know what I was talking
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.500
about. They were like, robot man, and I'm like,
00:27:56.509 --> 00:27:59.609
No, they don't remember who Lindsay Wagner is.
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Is that crazy? But anyways, Bionic Woman. Yeah,
00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:04.349
right. But oh, that was the name of the show
00:28:04.349 --> 00:28:07.029
Bionic Woman. But are they doing anything now?
00:28:07.130 --> 00:28:10.809
Or is there like chips that are being used in
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body parts? I know it's crazy to ask. Well, actually,
00:28:13.230 --> 00:28:15.970
if you look at Elon Musk just planted a chip
00:28:15.970 --> 00:28:20.730
into his third ALS patient and the ALS patient
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took the ability with his with his brain chip
00:28:23.849 --> 00:28:28.559
and was able to edit and create audio for a video.
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It was crazy. Oh, I gotta look that up. Okay,
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.519
we have to look that up and Google that. Maybe
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.019
we'll find it on X. Yes, you should be able to.
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They were talking about it. Let's see. I just
00:28:44.019 --> 00:28:46.980
read about it two days ago. Yeah, I think it
00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:49.880
was two days ago where I read about how this
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third individual who's got the chip in his brain
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.599
has literally been able to edit a video. with
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using his brain because he's an ALS patient.
00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:03.420
You mean ALS, amyotropic, like the ALS, like
00:29:03.420 --> 00:29:08.119
a muscular dystrophy? Yeah, ALS. Wow. Wow. No,
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.240
I have not read that. That is really interesting.
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OK, I got it. Oh, I'm going to use that tonight
00:29:12.299 --> 00:29:15.339
for the sunshine scoop. I deliver the daily news,
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.380
a little dose of fun. I love this. I've really
00:29:18.380 --> 00:29:20.559
enjoyed our conversation. I had no idea, but
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:24.170
this is cool. Thank you so much. I've had a great
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time. I love hanging out with you. Oh my gosh,
00:29:27.250 --> 00:29:29.289
I think this will be turned into a podcast, but
00:29:29.289 --> 00:29:34.349
I really am just so in 173. I think you said
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employees. That's pretty amazing. Is anyone else
00:29:38.490 --> 00:29:40.970
in your family involved? No, they don't like
00:29:40.970 --> 00:29:44.269
technology at all. I'm there. I'm their technology
00:29:44.269 --> 00:29:46.309
worker in the house. I fix everything for them.
00:29:46.490 --> 00:29:49.529
That is so funny. Oh my gosh. All right, so I'll
00:29:49.529 --> 00:29:51.569
get your website. I'll get all your information
00:29:51.569 --> 00:29:55.049
so I can share it all. And thank you for spreading
00:29:55.049 --> 00:29:57.670
the word. It sounds like your real goal is to
00:29:57.670 --> 00:30:01.349
just spread the word on like what is about. And
00:30:01.349 --> 00:30:03.549
so, and by the way, you guys, if you are living
00:30:03.549 --> 00:30:07.029
in a home that is a smart home, definitely who
00:30:07.029 --> 00:30:09.930
would they contact to make sure, contact you
00:30:09.930 --> 00:30:13.910
to make sure. Everything is protected. Wow. I
00:30:13.910 --> 00:30:16.690
love this. Chris, thank you. Thank you so much
00:30:16.690 --> 00:30:19.809
for waiting for me. I apologize. I need a chip
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in my brain, right? You and me both, I want one.
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I actually applied for that and I didn't get
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it because I didn't have a major illness like
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ALS. Applied for it? You did? Yeah. There was
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an application process? Application process.
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They're working with individuals with ALS first
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and foremost. to try to help bring them a better
00:30:38.180 --> 00:30:40.299
life. And I love that. And I was like, OK, I'm
00:30:40.299 --> 00:30:42.980
not going to complain. I love that, too. I worked
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for Muscular Dystrophy Association for 12 years.
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.420
I did meet Jerry Lewis. I made him so mad at
00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:51.559
me a couple of times, because one time he was
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:54.480
playing tennis, and I kept touching. I kept getting
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.500
his ball up the game, doing a good thing. Like,
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here's your tennis balls I throw back. Finally,
00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:01.220
he stood there in his Jerry Lewis voice and told
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me to leave his balls alone. as only Jerry could.
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Exactly, exactly. But I love, love, love MDA.
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So I love that they're doing that because so
00:31:14.740 --> 00:31:18.140
many great ALS patients that really just need
00:31:18.140 --> 00:31:20.220
something like this. All right. Thank you so
00:31:20.220 --> 00:31:23.859
much, Chris. Have a great rest of the day. I
00:31:23.859 --> 00:31:26.039
look forward to it. You'll be airing in about
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four weeks and I'll tag you on LinkedIn. Let
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me know. I'll make sure we promote. Oh, you're
00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:33.299
awesome. Thank you so much. Fantastic. Talk to
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you soon. Have a great rest of the day. You too.
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Thank you for being brave and bold and bald.
