May 7, 2025

How to Navigate Marketing Pitfalls with Brady Dahmer

How to Navigate Marketing Pitfalls with Brady Dahmer
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Are blind spots in your marketing strategy costing you time, money, and opportunity? Find out how to spot them before they derail your business.

In this engaging episode of "No Prep Needed," Adrienne Barker speaks with Brady Dahmer, a marketing and branding expert with over 30 years of experience. Brady discusses his book "Blindspots," which addresses the critical gap between theoretical marketing knowledge and practical application.

Drawing from decades of helping entrepreneurs and small businesses, Brady reveals common pitfalls in the marketing process and provides actionable strategies to protect your marketing investments. This conversation is packed with valuable insights for any business owner looking to maximize their marketing ROI and avoid costly mistakes when working with contractors.

Key Takeaways

→ A blind spot isn't what you don't know—it's what everybody else thinks you know. This communication gap is where most marketing projects fail.

→ Great marketing starts before you hire contractors by conducting proper market research about your audience, competitors, and goals.

→ Play the long game with your marketing strategy rather than spending all your budget at once, allowing for adjustments based on measurable results.

→ Understand the difference between tactics (individual actions like social posts) and strategy (how everything connects to build your brand and community).

→ Always protect yourself with clear contracts that outline expectations, deliverables, timelines, and responsibilities for all parties involved.

Quotes from Brady

"A blind spot isn't what you don't know, it's what everybody else thinks that you know. When people assume that you know something or have something taken care of, that's really where those blind spots come up."

"Time is not refundable. So as much as you put into a project, you can never get your time back. It's not just your time but also when you are an entrepreneur or startup business, you've got all these expenses sitting there waiting for your business to grow."

How to Reach Brady

Website: Handbook available on Amazon (search for "Blindspots")

LinkedIn:(26) Brady Dahmer | LinkedIn

Brady offers mentoring and consultation for entrepreneurs facing marketing challenges—reach out to him on LinkedIn with your specific situation for personalized guidance.

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We are live with Brady Dahmer, no relationship

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to Jeffrey. Okay, so listen everyone, Brady's

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obviously brave. Brady, brave. So he's brave.

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He has no clue what he's got himself into. He's

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so cute. He's like, how long? Questions? Oh,

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Brady. But I am excited to talk to you. So welcome,

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everyone, to No Prep Needed, which, Brady, I

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do zero prep, like literally no prep at all.

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Didn't even, I think you had a Gmail. I didn't

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Google you or anything like that. Normally, afterwards,

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I'm going down the rabbit hole into the Brady

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Dahmer. What's your life about? So you have to

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introduce yourself. So who is Brady? Good afternoon,

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guys. Adrian, thanks so much for being here.

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I'm excited. And honestly, your energy is very

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contagious here. So loving it so far. This is

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awesome. My name is Brian Dahmer. I've actually

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been in marketing and branding and communications

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for the last 30 plus years. I've also been an

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entrepreneur in many, many things. But the latest

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kind of venture I've gotten myself into is I've

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written a book called Blindspots. And it came

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out of the sort of like, I had a bunch of friends

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ask me a bunch of marketing questions and problems

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that they were in. And I just realized like,

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in answering them, I just realized there's a

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big information gap between theoretical and practical

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stuff in our industry. And as I looked around,

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there is there was kind of no, no other books

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like this out there. It was kind of like the

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the gap that you kind of learn in school versus

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doing. And I was like, wow, I'm gonna start down

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this road. And this is where I'm at four years

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later, it was, you know, the entrepreneurial

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path is that of a very kind of, you know, all

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the different roads you go down. And, you know,

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when you think you're gonna do something very

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quickly, and all of a sudden, you look back and

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it's four years in the making, it's done. So.

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Yes, I've written this book for any kind of small

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business entrepreneurs that are doing marketing,

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that need to brand or market their book, and

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how I can help them, and how I can give them

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insight on how to do that in the most effective

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and efficient way. I love that. OK, so that's

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really important. OK, everyone got that? You

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got that? You wrote it down, everyone? All right,

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did I spell the book called Blindspots? I think

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it's one word. Yeah, it's all one word. Yep.

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Beautiful handbook. It's up on Amazon as well.

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So that's the easiest way. And just to let everybody

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know the cover looks like some guy falling over

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the eye and blind spot. So just like in real

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life when we don't see them, all those poles,

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all those little rocks, all those cracks on the

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pavement that we don't see or pay attention to,

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you know, so that's that's where the inspiration

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for that came from. I love that. So you could

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you could bring a horse to water. You could bring

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people to your book. But you can't make them

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read it. But that is what, so if I said to you,

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oh, I'm not gonna read your book. Maybe I'll

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buy it, but it'll just sit on my shelf. But what

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can you teach me? What can I learn? What are

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the five things that you could teach me right

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now about blind spots? Great question. Actually,

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one of the, I got inspired because just to even

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answer like, why should I read it? One of, I

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went to, actually a professional editor, and

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I gotta say, anybody who's thinking about writing

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a book, when you're near done, go to an editor

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because they have such great insight, and this

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editor gave me, again, one of the key, he unlocked

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something that I didn't come up with myself,

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and that is each one of these tools and tips

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that I, or each one of the things that I talk

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about in the book. has a consequence to it. He

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was mostly a fiction sort of editor in that,

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but he was like, hey, there's all these really

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great insights, but there's no consequences.

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Again, with fiction, that's where the intrigue

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and everything else comes from. So each one of

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the insights I give also has, if you don't do

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it. So in that, it creates a sense of drama and

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all that. So as much as they are, it's laid out

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in a step -by -step framework of how you should

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approach your marketing project, everything from

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what you need to do, what you should gather,

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what insights you should learn, what research

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should you do, right through to hiring a team

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and how the process works, right to the end.

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But as I give you to one of these insights and

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tips, each one has a consequence of if you don't

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do it, this was what the implications might be.

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Some are as big as others, but it's like if you

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don't take the time to do this, just FYI, here's

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what might happen, you know, so that's kind of,

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that's, that's one of the biggest things. But,

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um, one of the things that, uh, in that, why

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you should read it, it's, it's really about,

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it's like an insurance policy for your investment

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when it comes to marketing project. And that's

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kind of like why, you know, it's, um, That's

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kind of what it's really about is showing you

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where and what can happen in any kind of situation

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with anybody in teams and anybody doing marketing

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or branding. So what are some of the top things?

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So you asked me for five things that why you

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should read it. One of the big things is assumptions

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can kill a project and can kill relationships

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that you've. you have with your supplier, with

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your contractor. So that's one of the big things.

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It also comes from a Steven Seagal movie. There's

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a great quote in the book. Assumption is a mother

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of all f -ups, where if we assume something one

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way or another, then we're putting the onus not

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only on ourselves to hopefully hope it works

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out, but also that the other party as well knows

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what they're doing as well. I've got to ask like,

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what is a blind spot? And maybe in that, it is

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a blind spot isn't what you don't know, it's

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what everybody else thinks you know, right? So

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when you're talking to somebody, that's one of

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those things. Can we let that breathe for a minute?

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Yeah. OK, say it one more time. So a blind spot

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isn't what you don't know, it's what everybody

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thinks that you know. So when you're having a

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conversation with somebody and there's again

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that that sort of that gray area when people

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assume that you know something that you have

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something taken care of All those sorts of things

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that that's that's really where those blind spots,

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you know come up and you know It's it's kind

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of like a contract if it's not in writing It

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doesn't exist kind of thing and that's really

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one of the things that we we talked about So

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so an assumption it's like if you don't if you

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don't know it doesn't really you know, it's it's

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not understood And that's a key thing. And that's

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making sure that everything's spelled out, everything

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is talked through. And even to use one of the

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most used things is like, there's no dumb answer.

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Sorry, there's not a dumb answer. There's always

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a dumb answer. But there's never a dumb question

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is what I meant to say. Yes, there is. Yes, there

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is. Oh, we're going to talk about that. But it,

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you know, just just if you don't know, ask, you

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know, don't be afraid to ask. And that's where,

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you know, one of the key things is like assumptions

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are, you know, when you are when you don't know

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and they expect you to know that that's kind

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of where, you know, one of the big kind of key

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takes away. And this book will also give you,

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or the insights will also give you the list of

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questions to ask. So it's not like you need to

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know them, but it's good that you're gonna ask

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those questions that you understood, and also

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the implications if you don't ask those questions,

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right? So that's one of the key things. Also,

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great marketing kind of starts before you have

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the conversation with your contractor. understand,

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you know, it's so many times people come to us

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and say, Hey, we need a logo. We need we need

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a new website. We need any kind of, you know,

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x x x marketing materials. And you're like, Great,

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where is your where's your research? Where's,

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you know, how, what is your market? Like, what

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is who are your clients? All of that market research

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probably should be done before. So anything that,

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you know, should be done. you need to do that

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research before you have those conversations

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with, you know, with a with, you know, said contractor

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to do your website and things like that. And

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honestly, if they don't ask, you know, then,

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you know, it's not going to be user just there

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to kind of, you know, do something nice for you,

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but not something that's going to perform or

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do what you want it to do. Because ultimately,

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marketing, marketing really is an investment.

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It's not just about, you know, making pretty

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logos or beautiful website. It has to, you know,

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it has to really has to perform in a way for

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your business that you want it to drive sales

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drive communications all those things and also

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to kind of like tug on the end of it it also

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you should figure out how it can be measured

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you know and that's kind of like if you don't

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put in the if you don't put in the mechanics

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to measure the success of something um you know

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you don't really know what it does you know that's

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that's why sports have sports have, you know,

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that's why they measure all the analytics of

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every player. And that's why we keep score on

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things. And that's really, you know, if you're

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not doing that, then it is it is kind of yeah,

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it's a little bit of a waste of money because

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it's there, but it's not really doing anything

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right. So and then one of the things maybe to

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take on to that, too, is number three on that

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is play play the long game just because and when

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I say long game, I mean, just don't spend all

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your money at once and be strategic about, you

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know, what that long term plan looks like, because,

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you know, everybody, I'm sure everybody talked

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to about business. It's like you it's a marathon,

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not a sprint, you know, and if you go at it like

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a sprint, you're going to be burnt out. Not only,

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you know, from an energy standpoint or revenue

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standpoint, it's just going to be exhausting.

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Whereas you see those businesses. That play the

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long game and it's about just just taking those

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little steps and you know to go back to the the

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last Answer is like the more little steps that

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you do the more you can kind of understand because

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the more research that you're doing out there

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You know if you just do it all at once You there's

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no opportunity for you get any kind of any little

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bit any feedback. You can't do those little tweaks

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you can't kind of There's nothing to kind of

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You're just doing it all at once. But if you

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play the long game and you kind of take those

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little steps and you know how to adjust it, that

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way your client telling what you're offering

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and your messaging, you can then become a lot

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more focused on it. And then another key thing

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that we really kind of talk about is, again,

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kind of like playing the long game strategy versus

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tactics. And we, you know, a lot of clients want

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to do very tactical things. And what I mean by

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tactical is, Those short those little like those

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things that kind of make you feel good because

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you do them like a post on like day and or Anywhere

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on social or you know a website or a blog post

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or all those little things that you know make

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you feel good But understanding that that's just

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not that's a small piece in a in a larger puzzle

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of what to do So whereas strategy understand

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how they all connect, you know It's it's really

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nice doing and blasting out all these, you know

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pieces on social or piece messaging all around

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but if you don't If you don't kind of figure

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out how they all connect so that you're building

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the brand and building that communication and

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building a community, then you're just putting

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stuff out there. You know, you're throwing lures

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into a pond that doesn't have fish, you know,

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kind of thing. And then the last thing and probably

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the most kind of boring thing in all of this

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is make sure you have a contract. Make sure you've

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got some, you know, you know, you know, all about.

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what's going to happen. There's a plan that's

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laid out. It's all in writing. Everything is,

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you know, kind of contractually kind of locked

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in so that you're protected as well as the other

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sort of parties that are involved as well. the

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least creative, the least one of all of it, but

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it's also offering the most kind of protection

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and understanding. And there's also that baseline

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of who's going to do what, when, and it just

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feels, it's a little bit of insurance. It just

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feels, the whole project feels a little bit more

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secure. So that's kind of maybe the top kind

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of key things for entrepreneurs to kind of know

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and understand. All right. Let's get down to

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business now. Let's get down to business. Okay.

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So here's the thing. First of all, I don't know

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what number it is. I love the one regarding asking

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the right questions because, and you guys, I

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am talking about you out there and maybe you

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too, when it comes to social media, not you,

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not you, Brady, but like my five followers, that

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here's the thing. If you don't understand the

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industry, and someone's coming to you and saying,

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I have a tire company and I want to do marketing

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and you don't know what a tire is. You never

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really used one before. You don't have, you never

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bought a tire before. Don't think to yourself,

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oh, I could just go to ChatGPT and it will help

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me. And I will then just follow ChatGPT because

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it really doesn't work, right? You really want

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someone, in my mind, you want someone that has

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an understanding, an understanding of like what

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that tire business needs. So you want the background

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of business. But you also want to understand

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who are they going to reach out to? Who's their

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target market going to be? Do they sell to other?

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Are they a wholesaler? Are they a distributor?

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What does that look like? So I love that you

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have a bunch of questions because I grew up in

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the promotional products industry. So the XYZ

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that you were talking about of all the different

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marketing. But what I've noticed is when I jumped

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into the marketing of like LinkedIn. So I don't,

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I'm not an expert. Anything I am, I've used LinkedIn

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for a long time. I understand it, score mentor

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for eight years. So I understand business too.

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I've mentored so many variety of business. So

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I could say, right, but you know what? I don't,

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I'm not great with financials. So like if you

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were a financial wealth advisor said, can you

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do the marketing for me and I'll pay you like

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X amount of money? I would love it, but I would

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recommend Seth Green. Like I would absolutely

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not want to do it. myself because I don't understand

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that industry. And I think that if you are a

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marketing person, you got to look in the mirror

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and say, if I don't really understand something,

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I probably should recommend someone else. And

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that's where like collaboration, right? And like

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having partnerships. So I want to hear your answer

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to this. Am I right? Am I wrong? No, you're 100

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% right. And that's kind of, you know, it's it's

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and this is almost to where as let me maybe even

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take a step back and even if you're gonna hire

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a marketing team and this is where asking them

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how would they approach the project and feel

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good about them understanding. how to approach

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the project so they know what questions to ask

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as well. And so that's that's kind of key is

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don't don't rush just to kind of hire a team,

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but find the right one that that fits with you.

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And that's going to give you those goals, because

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they're also as as you hire that right team,

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they're going to know what specific questions

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to ask. And that's really maybe even to circle

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that back around because it's not even asking

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going out to the internet and asking and this

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is kind of where it is your team. Versus like

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when when you're in a small business or or you

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know entrepreneurs a little tough because you're

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maybe a team of one but you know interview and

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talk to the rest of your team to gather some

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of those answers or questions that they have

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for small businesses like bring your bring your

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sales team and bring your quality control people

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in bring your if there's a help desk all of those

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things in because they'll help you give those

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insights that you wouldn't be able to ascertain

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on yourself by just asking you know the internet

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or chat so We were one of the stories that we

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did this beautiful brochure for a client. and

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we were brought in to show the rest of the team.

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And the sales, so I can see it so vividly to

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this day, as I was showing everybody this new

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brochure, the sales guy at the back of the room

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is like, hey, you know, we don't send out brochures

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anymore, right? Or, you know, we haven't sent

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one out in years. It's great, but who are we

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sending it to? Because we don't really use it.

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But just asking that sales team, okay, how are

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you communicating with your clients? Or what's

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the best way? How can we help you communicate

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better? That opens up the entire world of like

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understanding how they work, how they like communicate.

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Again, it's that marketing so that, you know,

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the marketing will bring in the client to the

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sales team or whoever's doing, who's ever doing

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the sales, but then the sales team is then also

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too, needs a whole, maybe kind of different type

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of tools to kind of close those deals and everything

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else. But if you're just focused on that high

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level, you know, how to bring them into sales,

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you might be missing that, you know, one of the

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most important sort of steps of like, how are

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the salespeople closing it? Is there any... Are

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there any marketing things that you could do

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or promotional things in that window to help

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them become more productive at their job and

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be more successful at their job? So so long,

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long, long, short story. Very long is that talk

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to your entire team. So ask them a bunch of questions.

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You know, do some deep diving of that. Get them

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some research there. But that way you're going

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to. you know, you're going to be so much more

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insightful. And then what even comes out of that

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is that you can now start making some more, you

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can start making some more bolder decisions on

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how to connect and you can stand out a little

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bit more. If you worked in promotional products,

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I'm sure the most used colors are gray, blue

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and black, maybe red, you know, every now and

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again, but some of the, you know, some of the

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most, some of the most interesting things and

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interesting, you know, promotional products you

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have probably sat on the shelves because no one

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was kind of bold enough to kind of go out there

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and use them. Meanwhile, those are the ones that

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everybody keeps because of their most interesting

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ones out there, not those regular black pins

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everybody gets with the logo on it, but the more

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interesting ones. The more insight that you have,

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the more research and the more people you talk

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to about who the end client is, who the competition

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is, the more bold choices you can make to stand

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out in that market. Because as we both know,

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as everybody knows, it's just getting noisier

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and noisier just the amount of content and stuff

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that's out there. So just know who your market

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is so that you can directly get them excited

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about your product or service. I love it my dad

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used to say he taught me this taught me a lot

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of things but one of the things he said is Adrian

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if you're gonna get your roof fixed know enough

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about how to fix a roof so that you can look

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at it you can say it looks good don't be like

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it looks great it looks great like make sure

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you understand if you're going to buy a tires

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know enough so that someone's a is not gonna

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take advantage of you once they, I don't know

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anything about tires or whatever you want to

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sell to me. Oh, a thousand dollars a tire. Okay.

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Like, so I, and I love my dad's advice because

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that makes so much sense that you have to do

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some research before you go hire someone. And

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that would include, so, so this is so cool because

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I am 62, even though I know my energy matches

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like a 35 year old, but here's the thing is that

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you are, you've created a book, The Blind Spot,

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so that you don't make the same mistake as other

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people do when they're hiring someone into, like

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they're hiring someone to help, holy hell, that

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is really, I've never ever heard of this before,

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but yeah, it makes so much sense. I love that.

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I love it. Thank you so much. And to go back

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to your, then, just so, as big as the book is,

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it almost comes back to what your dad said as

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well. It's like, what this what I'm trying to

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do is give them enough information so they can

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like my honestly my my grandparents, my parents

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are exactly the same like just learn because

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it doesn't take much to understand how how roofing

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works or what you should know or the materials

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that are there all those you know all those things

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that you know you can kind of you know enough

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about to ask the right questions and that's kind

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of what is the premise of the book because also

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too as I've been in the you know the entrepreneurial

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world it's like we all wear so many hats it's

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easy Oopsie. Brady will be right there. I guess

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part of it is like, just teach me like the roofing

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example is like, just teach me enough so I can

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know how to make the right decision. And you

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know, it's it comes down to that. So this book

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is really gives you it doesn't go that deep.

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But again, it shows you and walks you through

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the process to help you make those better decisions.

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And again, the blind spots to say if you don't

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just like. getting getting absolutely, you know,

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washed over by the guy that's or, you know, oversold

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by the guy selling you the thousand dollar tires,

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you know, or the wrong tires or the wrong seasons

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or everything else. And and that sort of so that's

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really key. And that's I saw my friends who in

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this world just get kind of. been in really bad

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situations when it comes to, you know, the wrong

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teams that they hired. And also now they put

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a lot of money into, into marketing, you know,

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into the investment of marketing and branding

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and all that stuff. And they really didn't have

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a lot to show up for at the end, short of an

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emptier bank account. And now they've got, you

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know, now they've got to, you know, now they

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have to kind of do the same with less, you know,

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there's so many, I got a call. you know, at least

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once or twice a month being like, hey, by the

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way, can you can you help us because you know,

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we thought we're we don't have much anymore because

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it got spent because of a, you know, a bad, you

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know, just Basically, a bad marketing or bad

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contractor kind of didn't do what they were supposed

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to do. And they walked away, you know, with with

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money. And now we don't now we don't have anything.

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Can you help us? You know, and and that's not

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the situation that I'm trying to alleviate that

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situation for the small business and entrepreneurs

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so that, you know, they've they know enough to

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understand. And again, ask the ask the right

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questions, you know, and then if you're not here's

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a big thing. If you're not comfortable with the

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answers, keep on asking, but also to pay attention

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to sometimes that the gut as well. If it doesn't

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feel right, if they don't feel like they're a

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good fit. There's so many people, there's so

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many other roofers and contractors and marketers

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out there. Just ask your friends who they would

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use or who they used in the past and that's kind

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of, that's key. So that's what I was aiming for.

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So Brady, and there couldn't be a better time

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because I will tell you, I have heard more on

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the news of people that like, for instance, a

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woman in our community, an accountant, she had

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all great reviews. She was named 2022, 2023,

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2024 best of. And then all of a sudden, she's

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not filing people's taxes, all the things people

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are coming out of the woodwork. A lot of them

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saying, oh my God, she's a scammer, she didn't

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do this, she didn't do that. And no, but I'm

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hearing more and more of this. People, you know,

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as the economy where, you know, we don't talk

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politics, but... What's happening in the economy

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is making people nervous and a lot of people

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are trying to take advantage. One of the easiest

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places is in social media where I could say,

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oh, I could do all of this for you because in

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my mind, I could watch a YouTube video. Now I

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have access to chat. I can get AI and then I'm

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just following. Isn't it like that? But like,

00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:10.339
no, it's not a B. Yeah, if you would like to

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waste your money, I'd be happy to send you my

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bank account. Not only money though, it's not

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only the hard money, it's also time. So you say,

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well, I don't have that much time. I've got to

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hire someone. You want to do it that quickly,

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and then you're going to have to onboard someone

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else? And a lot of times, if you do have the

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right social media person, what you want to do

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is make sure that you're training them correctly

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too, so that you're getting everything. So with

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someone who does it, I could tell right away.

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especially when I do work then if I'm like sitting

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meetings with someone an Oh yeah, I hired someone

00:23:46.990 --> 00:23:52.829
and and I'm like, uh, wait a not going as you

00:23:52.829 --> 00:23:57.849
like, wher where's a bunch of differe that we

00:23:57.849 --> 00:24:01.049
all, we all need t think this is really impo

00:24:01.049 --> 00:24:04.210
it in the promo business someone calls up and

00:24:04.210 --> 00:24:09.920
says, And the person who answers says, oh, I

00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:11.859
can sell you mugs. That'd be great. How many

00:24:11.859 --> 00:24:14.700
mugs do you want? I want, right? And now they've

00:24:14.700 --> 00:24:18.079
got mugs are the shitty, no, poops, sorry. Mugs

00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:20.900
are the worst things to order, they're poop,

00:24:21.259 --> 00:24:23.500
to order for a trade show. Nobody wants to carry

00:24:23.500 --> 00:24:25.920
around your 12 ounce mug banging in your bag

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.119
and hits a table, breaks, and you got a mess.

00:24:28.539 --> 00:24:33.099
So do not do mugs, okay? Yep. No. No, but you

00:24:33.099 --> 00:24:35.180
really, you can't be, have to nail more on the

00:24:35.180 --> 00:24:38.980
head there. a time is not refundable. So as much

00:24:38.980 --> 00:24:40.559
as you put into a project, you can never get

00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:43.279
your time back, you know, and that is, you know,

00:24:43.380 --> 00:24:47.119
it's not just your time, but also when you are

00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:48.779
as an entrepreneur, social startup business,

00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.039
like, you've got all of these, what goes against

00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:54.420
you in all of this is that, you know, what's

00:24:54.420 --> 00:24:56.440
key for making that right decision is kind of,

00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:59.140
you know, the more time you in protection of

00:24:59.140 --> 00:25:01.180
yourself and all your assets and all your money,

00:25:01.180 --> 00:25:04.059
because think about if, if you're going down

00:25:04.059 --> 00:25:06.640
a road and you're building something, Let's just

00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:09.059
say you've got a store, for instance, a storefront

00:25:09.059 --> 00:25:12.750
and you're selling cupcakes. Well. If branding,

00:25:13.089 --> 00:25:15.410
you're now paying rent, you possibly could be

00:25:15.410 --> 00:25:19.470
paying for leases on all your equipment. So there's

00:25:19.470 --> 00:25:21.609
a lot of expenses that are sitting there waiting

00:25:21.609 --> 00:25:24.630
for your business to grow. So the longer you

00:25:24.630 --> 00:25:27.130
take in, something doesn't work out, if you don't

00:25:27.130 --> 00:25:29.710
hire the right team to market yourself, to brand

00:25:29.710 --> 00:25:31.869
yourself, to get the signage up right, all those

00:25:31.869 --> 00:25:34.609
sorts of things, that just keeps on setting your

00:25:34.609 --> 00:25:36.869
timelines back from when you can sort of really

00:25:36.869 --> 00:25:39.730
start making the business grow or do whatever

00:25:39.730 --> 00:25:42.109
else. So not only... you know if you're waiting

00:25:42.109 --> 00:25:44.130
for a sign to go up and the guys you know you

00:25:44.130 --> 00:25:45.650
hired the wrong guy and said oh sorry you know

00:25:45.650 --> 00:25:47.170
two weeks in he's like sorry I can't do it now

00:25:47.170 --> 00:25:49.069
you got to find a new guy and now he says well

00:25:49.069 --> 00:25:51.309
I'm really busy for the next week and now you're

00:25:51.309 --> 00:25:52.990
you know you're well into a month from when your

00:25:52.990 --> 00:25:54.250
sign should have been up on the front of the

00:25:54.250 --> 00:25:56.829
building and now you know you're still paying

00:25:56.829 --> 00:25:58.630
a lease you're still paying all the other payments

00:25:58.630 --> 00:26:00.309
for that business so it's hard cost that you

00:26:00.309 --> 00:26:02.589
have to pay anyways but you don't see any growth

00:26:02.589 --> 00:26:04.529
in the business you know because your signs up

00:26:04.529 --> 00:26:07.349
it's a it's a weird analogy but think about how

00:26:07.349 --> 00:26:10.359
you're paying for things when something doesn't

00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:12.220
go right, you're still paying for all those hard

00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:14.819
costs, you know, inside your business. So what

00:26:14.819 --> 00:26:16.500
you know, spend a little bit of time asking those

00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:19.599
right questions so that you can, you know, you

00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.940
can also build that team around you. And the

00:26:22.940 --> 00:26:24.819
good team around you spend the time doing the

00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:26.799
research, doing the interviews, like call them

00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.279
up, ask for referrals. You know, one of the biggest

00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.099
things like, you know, with social and everything

00:26:32.099 --> 00:26:34.539
else is like, one of the key things in the book

00:26:34.539 --> 00:26:37.039
is ask them for a referral from a past client.

00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.480
you know, and it's kind of that's one of the

00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:40.779
key things that they could they could talk here.

00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.259
I'll show you the most amazing things. But honestly,

00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:45.559
if they don't like giving referrals, huge red

00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.079
flag, you know, it just shows like they probably

00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:49.579
don't have a good relationship with any of their

00:26:49.579 --> 00:26:53.200
past clients anyways. And never like everybody

00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:54.700
knows what that means. It's kind of, you know,

00:26:54.700 --> 00:26:57.359
it just, you know, I I'm more than happy to give

00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.079
you, you know, five, 1050 referrals of projects

00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.059
and clients that I've worked with because they

00:27:02.059 --> 00:27:04.759
you know that they're you know what So that's

00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.240
one of the key things and probably most, if you're

00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:08.640
hiring somebody, one of the most important things

00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:10.980
is like, especially in this day and age where

00:27:10.980 --> 00:27:13.319
everybody could just create so many beautiful

00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:17.460
images on social or do that stuff just online,

00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.039
it's a facade. And until you actually talk to

00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.720
another human about experience that they've had

00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.059
with somebody else, it's still just a digital

00:27:26.059 --> 00:27:28.619
facade that's out there. So call them, talk to

00:27:28.619 --> 00:27:31.559
them, because maybe this woman is getting more

00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:33.539
and more, like, again, the accountant that was

00:27:33.539 --> 00:27:37.299
there. If you maybe just talk to one of the past

00:27:37.299 --> 00:27:40.079
people that she hired, you might get that insight

00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.880
immediately and not as many awards that she's

00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.279
won, which are sometimes very easy to acquire.

00:27:50.690 --> 00:27:55.470
I don't want this book to sound down and overprotective,

00:27:55.490 --> 00:27:58.410
but it is there to kind of be that insurance

00:27:58.410 --> 00:28:02.630
policy and for you to get ahead of the game.

00:28:02.990 --> 00:28:06.799
Just be ahead of... whatever kind of blinds,

00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.740
whatever issues you might have down the road.

00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.079
And that's kind of, you know, I love that your

00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.359
swap. So Brady, here's one for you, though. Here's

00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.319
one that a lot of people don't think of. But

00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.440
I'm hiring the guy, the sign guy, and he's like

00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:20.059
two weeks, three weeks. You know what first goes

00:28:20.059 --> 00:28:24.160
into my mind? Maybe he owes. the sign company.

00:28:24.460 --> 00:28:28.880
Maybe h maybe he's unable to pay. a lot of times

00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:37.500
referrals. with a grain of salt. It and brother

00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:45.200
and sister and If I was working with someone,

00:28:45.339 --> 00:28:47.799
I was laying out a lot of money and they needed

00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.539
to buy merchandise, I'm gonna work with them

00:28:50.539 --> 00:28:53.039
and they're gonna order something for me, I would

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.019
absolutely be doing a credit check on them. They

00:28:56.019 --> 00:28:58.099
could do a credit check on me. I wanna make sure

00:28:58.099 --> 00:29:00.880
because I have seen that way too often where

00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.470
your vendor... is not paying their bills. And

00:29:03.470 --> 00:29:05.849
so you're not going to get any service. And they're

00:29:05.849 --> 00:29:08.450
going to try to delay until someone else pays

00:29:08.450 --> 00:29:10.990
them. And that is the worst. So the first thing,

00:29:11.089 --> 00:29:12.430
and as a matter of fact, when I used to work

00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:14.569
in the family business, people said, what sets

00:29:14.569 --> 00:29:16.789
you apart from other promotional products company?

00:29:17.089 --> 00:29:20.269
I would say our accounting department. And they

00:29:20.269 --> 00:29:21.730
would say, what do you mean your accounting department?

00:29:21.869 --> 00:29:23.890
I thought you'd say customer service. You answer

00:29:23.890 --> 00:29:26.990
the phone. No, we pay our bills first. That's

00:29:26.990 --> 00:29:29.450
the most important thing. You don't have to worry.

00:29:30.340 --> 00:29:31.900
Everyone listen to that one, too, because that

00:29:31.900 --> 00:29:34.579
is very good advice. Give me what you have. Yes,

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.559
100%. And that's kind of, I couldn't agree with

00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:42.779
that more. Talking to the right people, get the

00:29:42.779 --> 00:29:46.519
right referrals. Even the last few jobs of seeing

00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:50.400
like, hey, that's key, because there's a lot

00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:54.250
of... There's so many people doing great stuff

00:29:54.250 --> 00:29:57.089
out there, but for every 10 people doing, or

00:29:57.089 --> 00:29:58.950
even 100 people doing great work and who are

00:29:58.950 --> 00:30:01.410
honest about their work, there's always that

00:30:01.410 --> 00:30:03.789
one person out there trying to figure out how

00:30:03.789 --> 00:30:06.049
to kind of scam the industry in one way or another.

00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:09.650
And it's disappointing, but there's just those

00:30:09.650 --> 00:30:11.930
people out there. So just protect yourself against

00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:17.619
them. And again, just... I guess nothing's easier

00:30:17.619 --> 00:30:19.880
to find a scammer when the more questions you

00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.359
ask and the deeper you go, because if they can't

00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.680
answer some of those questions honestly or deeply,

00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.539
then you know it's just a big facade. And they're

00:30:28.539 --> 00:30:31.640
just there to kind of take your money and do

00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.240
the least amount that they can and just kind

00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.920
of keep you on the end of that rope or into that

00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.519
line for as long as they can until you give up

00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.200
and say, this is enough. I've got to move somewhere

00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.420
else. But then even to get your money out of

00:30:41.420 --> 00:30:43.799
that, Good luck. It's never gonna happen. But

00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:45.980
hey, there's just thinking about the amount of

00:30:45.980 --> 00:30:48.099
time and effort and also to emotional energy

00:30:48.099 --> 00:30:50.220
that you've spent trying to follow up with these

00:30:50.220 --> 00:30:52.859
people trying to get it done. You know, just

00:30:52.859 --> 00:30:54.240
get your money back or get the project done.

00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:58.920
So in that, you know, just spend the time, spend

00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.400
the time interview people, you know, and just

00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:05.680
you don't Again, it's that long game. Don't feel

00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:09.259
the need to rush through it. And just take your

00:31:09.259 --> 00:31:14.440
time to do those, do the big things right. And

00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.920
sort of put those pieces in place because you

00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.299
really want to hire somebody. especially in marketing

00:31:19.299 --> 00:31:21.920
and branding and things like that, because it's

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.519
such a long term thing and you're going to be

00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.880
doing, you know, so many things with X, you know,

00:31:26.019 --> 00:31:28.859
three, six, nine, 12 months is that they're there.

00:31:28.980 --> 00:31:30.299
It's almost like you're going to be in a relationship

00:31:30.299 --> 00:31:32.220
with them and you want to make sure you're in

00:31:32.220 --> 00:31:36.680
the relationship with the right people. So Yvonne,

00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:39.240
who I love, who's on ChatterSocial. If you don't

00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.019
know ChatterSocial, Brady, we gotta get you on

00:31:41.019 --> 00:31:42.559
ChatterSocial because you got a lot to offer.

00:31:42.700 --> 00:31:44.980
No, people will love you. It's a social audio

00:31:44.980 --> 00:31:49.000
video. It's an amazing, it's an experience where

00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.579
you are literally on your phone. And if you ever

00:31:51.579 --> 00:31:53.980
heard of Clubhouse, it's like far advanced because

00:31:53.980 --> 00:31:55.960
you have video aspects. But Yvonne always says,

00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.240
how you do one thing is how you do everything.

00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:00.400
And that makes me realize that it's not only

00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.359
so true, but like in the promotional products

00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.640
industry, you're talking about, I'm a brand.

00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.859
expert. I'm a marketing e what I see is people's

00:32:08.859 --> 00:32:13.119
Li opposite. Now, I understa has no shoes. I

00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:17.400
get that with everyone else. But w word cobbler

00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.119
in so long. T ago. You know, one thing is, but

00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:25.059
why don't you lo is actually putting out? W looking

00:32:25.059 --> 00:32:29.000
like? Because if t well, I'm just so busy, I

00:32:30.689 --> 00:32:33.970
So I often, and these days are LinkedIn, right?

00:32:34.109 --> 00:32:35.910
Everyone, we're all getting those messages. So

00:32:35.910 --> 00:32:38.309
I do lead generation and I'm darn good at it

00:32:38.309 --> 00:32:40.789
because I understand strategy and I understand

00:32:40.789 --> 00:32:43.490
business and I'll get, I've had a lot of people,

00:32:43.769 --> 00:32:46.009
their machine is like not working correctly and

00:32:46.009 --> 00:32:48.230
it's sending me and I'll get to, Adrian, why

00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:50.470
aren't you answering me? And I'm like, this is

00:32:50.470 --> 00:32:53.069
a 10th message, but first of all, why am I like,

00:32:53.329 --> 00:32:56.269
we still have to go back to the light trust.

00:32:56.690 --> 00:32:58.420
Yep. What is the whole, I can't think of it,

00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.180
but it's the people you like and trust that you

00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:02.700
know. That really makes a difference. You really

00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:04.980
want to be careful, just reaching out. So I don't

00:33:04.980 --> 00:33:06.660
really understand, even though I do the lead

00:33:06.660 --> 00:33:09.559
generation, I'm always doing it in a way where

00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.099
people, I only work with people that actually

00:33:11.099 --> 00:33:13.519
have industry experience. I, you know, if you

00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.500
said to me, Adrienne, I just started with promotional

00:33:15.500 --> 00:33:17.660
products and I've been there for three months

00:33:17.660 --> 00:33:19.500
and I want to reach out. I'd be like, you need

00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:22.769
to like go door to door. and sell pizza magnets.

00:33:22.990 --> 00:33:24.930
You need to sell magnets to pizza restaurants

00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:27.529
for like six months to learn the industry. Like

00:33:27.529 --> 00:33:29.470
you cannot go out there and be like, I have a

00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:31.769
cricket in my garage and so I want to do work

00:33:31.769 --> 00:33:34.829
for you. That is like absolutely unfair. And

00:33:34.829 --> 00:33:38.630
I also believe in unreasonable hospitality. And

00:33:38.630 --> 00:33:41.630
so I will tell you some of my secrets is. I love

00:33:41.630 --> 00:33:44.650
that term by the way. That sounds reasonable

00:33:44.650 --> 00:33:48.079
hospitality. It absolutely like. I don't know

00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.940
where it's going, but just the sound of that.

00:33:50.980 --> 00:33:53.980
By the book. The book is amazing, and it's about

00:33:53.980 --> 00:33:55.900
anticipating what someone needs, like what your

00:33:55.900 --> 00:34:00.259
customer needs. My phone number, 386 -631 -4577,

00:34:00.420 --> 00:34:03.359
call me. I have no problem giving my cell phone

00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.380
number out. I say to my clients, by the way,

00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.920
I'm available all day. If you need me, reach

00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.559
me. If I'm up, I will answer. If not, I will

00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:14.460
answer right away the next day. But what I don't

00:34:14.460 --> 00:34:19.179
do, Brady, is I don't say, oh, I only check my

00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:22.539
emails between two and four and five and six.

00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:26.360
Because to me... If I want business and for me

00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:28.860
to be, it's going to be clients first, right?

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:32.199
Like I have to consider them and really anticipate.

00:34:32.260 --> 00:34:34.440
So I think you're giving that groundwork, which

00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.880
I absolutely love. I do hope you come on chatter

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.110
social, chatter social .io. little bubbles as

00:34:40.110 --> 00:34:44.210
a logo. I am the co -host of True Crime, which

00:34:44.210 --> 00:34:46.630
is really fun. We have a live audience and then

00:34:46.630 --> 00:34:48.230
it turns into a podcast. So really, really fun.

00:34:48.550 --> 00:34:50.550
But anyways, it's not about me. It's about you.

00:34:50.590 --> 00:34:52.610
I love your book. I love that people can get

00:34:52.610 --> 00:34:54.989
it. Is it available everywhere? It is available

00:34:54.989 --> 00:35:00.269
on Amazon right now. But let me back up to that.

00:35:00.989 --> 00:35:04.789
Let me just answer the unreasonable hospitality

00:35:04.789 --> 00:35:10.929
of being a client. I think to to be the not not

00:35:10.929 --> 00:35:13.309
the opposite of that, but just maybe another

00:35:13.309 --> 00:35:15.730
another way to look at it, you know, for my clients

00:35:15.730 --> 00:35:18.070
is that also understand what industry that you're

00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:21.070
in and for yourself being that salesperson like

00:35:21.070 --> 00:35:25.309
it is. I know for some entrepreneurs you you

00:35:25.309 --> 00:35:28.409
also need that window for you to do work, so

00:35:28.409 --> 00:35:31.550
hence that you know maybe there's there's really

00:35:31.550 --> 00:35:34.750
good ways or better ways to augment when you're

00:35:34.750 --> 00:35:36.690
going to be online or off or things like that,

00:35:36.690 --> 00:35:40.670
but. Also, be respectful of those. If you're

00:35:40.670 --> 00:35:43.329
constantly answering phones or things like that,

00:35:43.409 --> 00:35:45.849
or emails, it's also very distracting. So also

00:35:45.849 --> 00:35:48.909
be conscious of, you know, what will suit your

00:35:48.909 --> 00:35:51.570
clients best and sort of, if they, you know,

00:35:51.690 --> 00:35:54.510
for you that's in a heavily sales, like, hey,

00:35:54.829 --> 00:35:58.630
and also promotional products, how many times,

00:35:58.650 --> 00:36:01.309
you know, are you getting, I need this by tomorrow

00:36:01.309 --> 00:36:04.170
kind of calls? And that's that industry that's

00:36:04.170 --> 00:36:06.489
a very, you know, they're not calling you three

00:36:06.489 --> 00:36:08.820
or four months out, or sorry. The good ones,

00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:10.420
the great ones, the amazing clients are calling

00:36:10.420 --> 00:36:12.380
you three, four months out. But for the most

00:36:12.380 --> 00:36:14.239
part, you're probably getting a lot of like very

00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.420
short term calls in, in, in, in that too, because

00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:20.219
the, the wind, they know those, they know to

00:36:20.219 --> 00:36:22.400
the minimum windows of to order pens or the mugs

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:23.679
that you speak of like what they're shipping.

00:36:23.780 --> 00:36:26.099
But usually they're kind of calling you on that

00:36:26.099 --> 00:36:28.909
the edge of of when it can be done so it's Russian

00:36:28.909 --> 00:36:31.289
hence hence or here's another thing with you

00:36:31.289 --> 00:36:34.190
know with blind spots as well is like um the

00:36:34.190 --> 00:36:36.269
strategic planning of like how long is it going

00:36:36.269 --> 00:36:38.130
to take so everybody can kind of do the project

00:36:38.130 --> 00:36:41.489
at their most optimal state you know so that

00:36:41.489 --> 00:36:44.969
you know we we had a we had a thing in the agency

00:36:44.969 --> 00:36:47.309
it's like there's never enough time to do it

00:36:47.309 --> 00:36:49.849
there's always enough time to do it again Sorry,

00:36:49.929 --> 00:36:51.789
there's never enough time to do it right. There's

00:36:51.789 --> 00:36:55.190
always enough time to do it again. So true. Well,

00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:57.750
let me just say this. I think that if you want

00:36:57.750 --> 00:37:00.050
to have those hours, but why tell me? Why tell

00:37:00.050 --> 00:37:02.210
me as your client? Why do I need to know that

00:37:02.210 --> 00:37:05.050
you're only answering emails? Right? Like I don't

00:37:05.050 --> 00:37:06.909
need to know that I'm going to send you an email

00:37:06.909 --> 00:37:09.090
and I'm assuming that when you open it, you're

00:37:09.090 --> 00:37:10.269
going to read it and you're going to send it

00:37:10.269 --> 00:37:12.110
back to me. I don't need an email telling me

00:37:12.110 --> 00:37:13.809
that you only open emails between two and four.

00:37:13.849 --> 00:37:15.750
I find it weird. I just find it weird because

00:37:15.750 --> 00:37:17.829
I don't need to know that. I think that you'll

00:37:17.829 --> 00:37:20.190
end up making your own Like my clients know I

00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:22.730
respond pretty quickly. They know that if they

00:37:22.730 --> 00:37:24.409
don't hear from me that they could send me a

00:37:24.409 --> 00:37:26.170
reminder because that would be odd behavior.

00:37:26.530 --> 00:37:29.190
I'd rather have them think that's odd. Adrienne

00:37:29.190 --> 00:37:32.340
didn't, I wouldn't want them to say. up typical

00:37:32.340 --> 00:37:35.480
Adrian not re you know, when you work wi way,

00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:39.079
Julie, you got to ma you send her messages tw

00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.960
that's the reputation you to four. Like I just

00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:48.820
think are and what I'm hearing a I don't need,

00:37:48.980 --> 00:37:52.780
I'm so bus I have more clients, I hav I have

00:37:52.780 --> 00:37:57.619
clients that will 30. Like why are you even I

00:37:57.619 --> 00:38:04.170
don't even think a real you got enough business,

00:38:04.309 --> 00:38:06.110
you don't even need to like, like don't pay for

00:38:06.110 --> 00:38:08.769
your office anymore. I just so, but I, and all

00:38:08.769 --> 00:38:11.670
that to say, I absolutely love the fact that

00:38:11.670 --> 00:38:14.130
you have a book to help people because I will

00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:16.769
tell you one thing. If you said to me, Adrian,

00:38:16.869 --> 00:38:19.610
can you do SEO? I could do two things. I could

00:38:19.610 --> 00:38:22.050
say, Oh yeah, I could do SEO. I have no clue,

00:38:22.269 --> 00:38:24.389
but all I have to do is ask chap gbt. Give me

00:38:24.389 --> 00:38:27.570
SEO words or I will put you to favor. Who knows

00:38:27.570 --> 00:38:30.469
SEO? He knows Pinterest. So I think that if you

00:38:30.469 --> 00:38:33.050
are, and so if you're a social media or whatever

00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:36.010
business you're in, understand what you don't

00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:38.909
know. I don't edit. I don't, you know, do videos

00:38:38.909 --> 00:38:41.030
like I do. I don't edit this by the way. There's

00:38:41.030 --> 00:38:43.849
no like intro or outro. It's just me saying hello

00:38:43.849 --> 00:38:46.670
and me saying goodbye. It is what it is. I let

00:38:46.670 --> 00:38:48.309
people know. But the thing what I'm trying to

00:38:48.309 --> 00:38:52.619
say is that is that work on collaboration and

00:38:52.619 --> 00:38:55.760
creating the partnerships that you need so that

00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.900
if you said to me, Adrian, I need SEO, I know

00:38:58.900 --> 00:39:01.980
that person that I know, like, and trust, and

00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:04.679
that's someone that I'm finding on LinkedIn.

00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.639
And I'm sorry for all of you. I know it's nice

00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.920
to send those messages out, but my God, you're

00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.300
wasting so much time. You're niching down to

00:39:11.300 --> 00:39:13.260
people. I'm like, why are you asking me, a person

00:39:13.260 --> 00:39:16.909
that does LinkedIn? It's very clear. if I want

00:39:16.909 --> 00:39:18.570
to work with you, that you do LinkedIn because

00:39:18.570 --> 00:39:20.550
I'm going to do LinkedIn better than you anyway.

00:39:20.590 --> 00:39:22.550
So I'm kind of confused with that. So I think

00:39:22.550 --> 00:39:24.789
people need to get your, you need to get the

00:39:24.789 --> 00:39:26.789
handbook. They need to buckle down, but I do

00:39:26.789 --> 00:39:29.110
have a question for you. So what is the workshop

00:39:29.110 --> 00:39:33.409
or podcast? What does that mean? Oh, um, the,

00:39:33.730 --> 00:39:35.969
so I I'm also building up some workshops as well.

00:39:36.170 --> 00:39:40.909
So part of it is and also to with by the the

00:39:40.909 --> 00:39:42.769
books just got released as of January. So I'm

00:39:42.769 --> 00:39:45.690
on, you know, I'm in that and talking to people

00:39:45.690 --> 00:39:48.349
like yourself. And but also my goal is to start

00:39:48.349 --> 00:39:50.130
doing workshops for solvers and entrepreneurs

00:39:50.130 --> 00:39:53.150
is to build out an entire like I'll come in and

00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:56.690
do I'm doing one next week for for like a real

00:39:56.690 --> 00:40:00.010
estate group. So for instance, for for for remax,

00:40:00.010 --> 00:40:04.070
I'm doing a like a one hour lunch and learn workshop

00:40:04.070 --> 00:40:06.369
for all of their for all their realtors. and

00:40:06.369 --> 00:40:07.849
I'm going to walk them through the book. So I'm

00:40:07.849 --> 00:40:09.989
going to be doing Lunch and Learns and people

00:40:09.989 --> 00:40:12.110
like that for specific interviews. So if anybody

00:40:12.110 --> 00:40:15.369
out there has, they want me to come in and run

00:40:15.369 --> 00:40:16.929
a workshop with their company, or if they're

00:40:16.929 --> 00:40:22.309
part of an organization that uses value, that's,

00:40:22.349 --> 00:40:24.349
again, I love teaching. I love sharing this.

00:40:24.949 --> 00:40:27.619
I think there's just such a huge gap. um you

00:40:27.619 --> 00:40:30.119
know there's nothing like this out there and

00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.800
it's it's such a yeah it's it's such a needed

00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.980
thing that there's so that's so when i say workshops

00:40:35.980 --> 00:40:38.239
or anything else or even conferences coming up

00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.380
on stage and like talking and teaching um on

00:40:41.380 --> 00:40:44.360
how to you know just just you know having people

00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.739
learn what what it is and so i can really i can

00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:48.739
i can niche it down to a specific industry i've

00:40:48.739 --> 00:40:51.440
worked with all of them through my agency um

00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.360
and so you know but just getting this information

00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.409
out there to help kind of uh give people insight

00:40:57.409 --> 00:40:59.210
and protect their business and protect their

00:40:59.210 --> 00:41:01.750
budget and or so their, you know, their their

00:41:01.750 --> 00:41:04.090
money and their time and everything else. But

00:41:04.090 --> 00:41:06.090
just inspiring with the right questions to ask

00:41:06.090 --> 00:41:08.610
and think about that. So. I love that I was doing

00:41:08.610 --> 00:41:10.949
workshops on LinkedIn and I feel like I've done

00:41:10.949 --> 00:41:13.530
enough of them. Now I'm going to the like regional

00:41:13.530 --> 00:41:16.130
associations in the industry and then having

00:41:16.130 --> 00:41:18.889
them invite me so that I'm going into their audience

00:41:18.889 --> 00:41:21.070
and that is great. So I think that's perfect.

00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:23.610
I have a little comment in there to come into

00:41:23.610 --> 00:41:26.150
chatter social with a link. Come in, you will

00:41:26.150 --> 00:41:29.090
love it. I think that I have not met anyone like

00:41:29.090 --> 00:41:31.110
you that is offering what you're doing. I think

00:41:31.110 --> 00:41:34.510
people absolutely need it. I love it. And what

00:41:34.510 --> 00:41:37.920
I could do too is what I am like, kind of like

00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.619
saying, hey, look at me. I teach LinkedIn and

00:41:40.619 --> 00:41:42.360
then they like it and I've been getting great

00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.260
feedback. I could say, well, here's someone else

00:41:44.260 --> 00:41:46.599
that would actually be great because in the promotional

00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:48.760
products industry, there's not a lot of people

00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:52.679
that are doing social media correctly. They're

00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:54.739
like, oh, I do social media, but you're not even

00:41:54.739 --> 00:41:56.460
in the industry. You don't really understand

00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:58.179
it. And I could tell that you understand it.

00:41:58.300 --> 00:42:00.340
But if you could teach them what to look for

00:42:00.340 --> 00:42:02.880
so they're not wasting their time and their money

00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.489
and their energy. I think that having a handbook,

00:42:06.650 --> 00:42:08.630
and it sounds almost like an onboarding handbook,

00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:11.369
so even when you hire someone, you know what

00:42:11.369 --> 00:42:13.170
are the steps, the things to ask so that you

00:42:13.170 --> 00:42:17.730
are, again, so because as a client, as a... business

00:42:17.730 --> 00:42:20.789
owner, I onboard my clients, but a client should

00:42:20.789 --> 00:42:24.130
really be onboarding their supplier. But vice

00:42:24.130 --> 00:42:26.110
versa. And that's that's it. And when you when

00:42:26.110 --> 00:42:28.369
you know the capabilities, understand who they

00:42:28.369 --> 00:42:31.489
are and everything else. Yeah, there's you just

00:42:31.489 --> 00:42:33.489
put a lot if you don't ask questions, you're

00:42:33.489 --> 00:42:35.949
just putting a lot of trust into the universe

00:42:35.949 --> 00:42:37.929
that this person's going to be the right fit.

00:42:38.929 --> 00:42:40.570
Without really kind of understanding, it's kind

00:42:40.570 --> 00:42:44.650
of like one of those. I really hope that they're

00:42:44.650 --> 00:42:48.570
going to work without, you know, it's when onboarding.

00:42:48.829 --> 00:42:51.889
you know, on boarding a client or sort of like,

00:42:51.889 --> 00:42:53.650
not on boarding, but sort of like when you hire

00:42:53.650 --> 00:42:57.010
anybody contractually, it should be as much of

00:42:57.010 --> 00:42:59.190
an interview process as if you were to hire them

00:42:59.190 --> 00:43:01.110
as an employee, because essentially, it's exactly

00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:05.989
the same. And that's kind of it's it's I couldn't,

00:43:06.070 --> 00:43:08.250
you know, for that specifically, I couldn't say

00:43:08.250 --> 00:43:11.190
that, you know, with more emphasis or more weight

00:43:11.190 --> 00:43:14.030
because they, you're probably paying them more

00:43:14.030 --> 00:43:16.070
than, as I think about it too, you're probably

00:43:16.070 --> 00:43:18.710
paying them more to do projects that you want

00:43:18.710 --> 00:43:20.610
an employee, you know, underneath you at any

00:43:20.610 --> 00:43:22.869
given time. So I would even put more effort,

00:43:22.989 --> 00:43:26.010
more work into, you know, really. interviewing

00:43:26.010 --> 00:43:29.530
them and under because if you're a small business,

00:43:29.530 --> 00:43:32.610
you're probably hiring someone at a minimum wage

00:43:32.610 --> 00:43:35.449
or above to do stuff, but a lot of contractors

00:43:35.449 --> 00:43:38.349
are contracting at, even if you hire an employee

00:43:38.349 --> 00:43:40.869
at $25 an hour, most contractors will start at

00:43:40.869 --> 00:43:44.929
probably anywhere from up here, $75 to $150 an

00:43:44.929 --> 00:43:48.130
hour. So, you know, right there, just be conscious.

00:43:48.630 --> 00:43:50.710
I've never put those numbers together, but that's

00:43:50.710 --> 00:43:53.530
kind of like putting that weight of just understanding

00:43:53.530 --> 00:43:55.170
when you're hiring that contract and making sure

00:43:55.170 --> 00:43:57.030
that they're the right one. Because, you know,

00:43:57.150 --> 00:43:59.530
if you're a couple of months into this contract

00:43:59.530 --> 00:44:00.769
and all of a sudden, you know, you're three,

00:44:00.829 --> 00:44:03.090
four or $5 ,000 down with nothing to show for

00:44:03.090 --> 00:44:05.690
it, you know, that's now you're going to have

00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:08.690
to add. I hear that all the time, though, Brady.

00:44:08.889 --> 00:44:10.469
I hear that all the time. I hired this person,

00:44:10.530 --> 00:44:12.650
so that makes me really, really sad for people.

00:44:13.269 --> 00:44:15.090
So, absolutely. And what makes sense, right?

00:44:15.389 --> 00:44:17.769
If I came to you and I said, Brady, I'm a business

00:44:17.769 --> 00:44:21.369
coach, I'm 22 years old, I'd be like, okay, you

00:44:21.369 --> 00:44:23.889
may have graduated school, but you're, no, you're

00:44:23.889 --> 00:44:27.139
- No. but you may be an instagram expert. I could

00:44:27.139 --> 00:44:29.059
see that or tick tock like that could be your

00:44:29.059 --> 00:44:31.639
thing. That's your groove. So use the right wording

00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.760
to when you go to promote yourself. Right. Right.

00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:36.719
All right. So Brady, we got the book. We got

00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.059
the information. This will be turned into a podcast.

00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:40.559
Is there anything else that you want to share

00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.559
that I didn't ask you? No, honestly, I've got

00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.179
so much. One of the things I will share is, is

00:44:46.179 --> 00:44:50.179
that anybody can find me on LinkedIn. Brady Dahmer.

00:44:50.579 --> 00:44:53.360
It's br 80. Why? I actually an easier way to

00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.280
remember it is Brady like Tom and Dom are like

00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.659
Jeffrey, unfortunately. So that's for all your

00:44:59.659 --> 00:45:02.000
crime, you know, so that you can find me on LinkedIn.

00:45:02.420 --> 00:45:05.039
But why I suggest that is that if anybody has

00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.920
any any potential contractual or sort of contract,

00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.519
sorry, not contractual issues, but any contractor

00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.840
issues or any questions. reach me on LinkedIn,

00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.519
I'll I'm more than happy to kind of mentor anybody

00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.739
and everybody for how to get through these processes.

00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:20.639
So hit me on LinkedIn, just give me a note being

00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.579
like, hey, here's the situation I'm in. Um, how

00:45:23.579 --> 00:45:25.619
would you help? What would you do? And again,

00:45:25.619 --> 00:45:28.579
that's something, you know, I want to be a benefit

00:45:28.579 --> 00:45:29.719
to our industry and everything else, so they

00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.900
can reach me there, follow me there. I'm always

00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:34.960
dropping little little notes and new things.

00:45:35.539 --> 00:45:37.420
I've got another version of the book coming out

00:45:37.420 --> 00:45:39.820
to help for people to work with other people

00:45:39.820 --> 00:45:41.559
in the creative industry, like working with writers

00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:44.309
or photographers. So I've got more editions of

00:45:44.309 --> 00:45:46.510
this book coming out with more content. So I'm

00:45:46.510 --> 00:45:49.190
always posting that on LinkedIn. So that's kind

00:45:49.190 --> 00:45:51.829
of... Where are you located, Brady? What's that?

00:45:51.869 --> 00:45:54.949
Where am I located? I'm in sunny Vancouver, BC

00:45:54.949 --> 00:45:58.050
right now. So I was gonna say, okay, in the United

00:45:58.050 --> 00:46:01.530
States, we have score, which is, which is a like

00:46:01.530 --> 00:46:04.369
a mentoring program, but they they have workshops,

00:46:04.849 --> 00:46:07.210
where they have small business, people come into

00:46:07.210 --> 00:46:09.489
workshops, but I forgot that you are in Canada.

00:46:09.949 --> 00:46:11.909
But but honestly, we'll talk about all this offline,

00:46:11.929 --> 00:46:13.750
because I think there's I want to hear about

00:46:13.750 --> 00:46:17.769
chatter and this other things. And I, you know,

00:46:17.769 --> 00:46:19.849
I'm matching the energy because I just love teaching

00:46:19.849 --> 00:46:22.369
this. I also really want to give that insight.

00:46:22.510 --> 00:46:25.570
And I was very fortunate, very early on that

00:46:25.570 --> 00:46:27.869
I've had some really great mentors who just kind

00:46:27.869 --> 00:46:30.329
of, you know, just gave everything like, you

00:46:30.329 --> 00:46:32.789
know, it's nothing, nothing in life is better

00:46:32.789 --> 00:46:34.750
than a really great mentor or people that sort

00:46:34.750 --> 00:46:36.809
of pay it forward and give you all that. And

00:46:36.809 --> 00:46:38.949
I think I've just been very fortunate that, you

00:46:38.949 --> 00:46:41.610
know, just they paved the way for me to kind

00:46:41.610 --> 00:46:44.289
of do the exact opposite for, you know, small

00:46:44.289 --> 00:46:46.349
business entrepreneurs and people who need this

00:46:46.349 --> 00:46:49.489
insight to, to get that. And it's funny, because

00:46:49.489 --> 00:46:53.130
someone just sort of said this. They read the

00:46:53.130 --> 00:46:54.349
book, and they're like, hey, it's kind of like

00:46:54.349 --> 00:46:57.590
having a mentor in your pocket, where they like.

00:46:57.659 --> 00:47:00.719
A mentor is those people who show you which shortcuts

00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.840
you can take and which shortcuts you shouldn't

00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:07.300
take in your business. Those things that you

00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:10.760
can do better, faster, but there's some that

00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.159
you really shouldn't take. And having the mentors

00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.619
will be like, time out, stop. Let's learn what

00:47:15.619 --> 00:47:17.300
we need to do and then go to that next step.

00:47:17.739 --> 00:47:21.159
And that's kind of where to spend your time and

00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.159
energy that's going to be the most useful for

00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.420
you and grow your business the best possible

00:47:25.420 --> 00:47:28.449
way. I love it. Yep. So I also put in the chat,

00:47:28.449 --> 00:47:33.630
look at Creative Con and Julie and Dominic. It's

00:47:33.630 --> 00:47:35.969
an amazing, amazing program. I think you would

00:47:35.969 --> 00:47:39.150
be fantastic there with your book and also the

00:47:39.150 --> 00:47:41.170
fact that what you're offering is pretty amazing.

00:47:41.250 --> 00:47:43.789
I love it. So I'll let you go. We're talking

00:47:43.789 --> 00:47:46.409
longer than I thought, so I apologize. But Brady,

00:47:46.530 --> 00:47:48.269
you're awesome. Thank you so much for your time.

00:47:48.349 --> 00:47:50.389
Oh, you're three hours behind, right? Yeah, I

00:47:50.389 --> 00:47:52.750
know. It's about 10 to 2 here right now. Oh,

00:47:52.750 --> 00:47:55.190
I love it. OK, good. All right, have a great

00:47:55.190 --> 00:47:58.550
rest of the day. And we'll be talking and I can

00:47:58.550 --> 00:48:01.010
send you the invite. I love it. Thank you so

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much for your time. You're fantastic. Bye, everyone.

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Thank you. See you next time. Be good, everyone.

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Be good people. Don't kill anyone. Be kind. All

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right.