Jan. 7, 2026

Dylan Bost and the Art of Alignment

Dylan Bost and the Art of Alignment
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Dylan Bost and the Art of Alignment

In this powerful roundtable episode of Adrienne Barker Speaks, information architect and leadership coach Dylan Bost shares his journey through business success, personal collapse, addiction, healing, and profound self-awareness. Dylan explains why we are not our stories — but the ones telling them — and how true transformation begins with awareness, not force.

Joined by a live panel of coaches, healers, and community leaders, the conversation dives into living from the scar rather than the wound, subconscious conditioning, nervous system regulation, emotional integration, leadership alignment, and Dylan’s upcoming book The Seven Mirrors: A Guide to Remembering Yourself. The discussion becomes a rare, honest exploration of healing, identity, and what it means to lead — and live — consciously.

What happens when success no longer feels aligned? In this deeply reflective live conversation, Dylan Bost explores identity, awareness, healing, and what it truly means to live — and lead — from presence instead of performance.

  1. You are not your story — you are the one telling it, and you can choose to tell a new one.
  2. Awareness is the medicine — healing begins when unconscious patterns are seen, even before they’re “fixed.”
  3. Live from the scar, not the wound — healed experiences inform wisdom without emotional captivity.
  4. Alignment matters more than performance — success without alignment leads to collapse, not fulfillment.
  5. True leadership is human — integrating personal and professional life creates healthier businesses and lives.“I’m not my story — I’m the one telling it.” — Dylan BostAlt quote options:
    • “Awareness, to me, is the greatest medicine there is.”
    • “We’re not here to become a higher version of ourselves — we’re here to remember who we already are.”
    • “Every trigger is a mirror showing us something that wants to be healed.”

    Connect with Dylan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanbost/

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And I woke up this morning looking good. Look

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at my bangs. Hi, everyone. I'm talking about

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the bangs again. Okay, look who I have. Dylan

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Bost, boss. And he's so handsome. He's the most

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photogenic man I've ever seen in my life. Wait

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till you'll see his website. We're going to go

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deep dive on your website. But as always, I have

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no clue who I am interviewing. I did say, can

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I have like a couple of words? Because we are

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live on Chatter Social and streaming live on

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Facebook, LinkedIn, and YouTube. So Dylan, information

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architect, who are you? What do you do? Introduce

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yourself. You know, I love this question because

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I think it ties into some of the things I'm writing

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about in a book that I'm sure we'll discuss at

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some point. But, you know, I think that, you

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know, for a long time, I believe that I was my

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story. Right. I believe that the roles that I

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played, the success I had, the collapses, the

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failures. All of that stopped working. And what

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I've learned is that I'm not my story. I'm the

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one that's telling it. And so, you know, I'm

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a new person today than I was yesterday. So today,

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I build businesses, I write, and I teach from

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a place of presence. You know, less performance,

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less proving, but more alignment. And so, you

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know, I hesitate to say I, you know, I am these

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things. I'm rather continuing to grow and be

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something new. So we're live on chatter social

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and Katya is in the room and Katya, I'm thinking

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that. I feel like Dylan's kind of up your alley

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too, so I would love to invite you to ask any

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questions. Help me host if you don't mind. I

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would love it. Do you mind? Do you have the time?

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Oh, I got a thumbs up. So what would be your

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first question to Dylan listening to that? Oh

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my, you have to excuse me. Dylan, would you mind

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repeating it? Sure. I was cooking. No problem.

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I'm throwing this on you so it makes sense. So

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thank you. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. You know,

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I think so what I said was I believe the long

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time for a long time that I was my story. Right.

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And I think we all. Have these things where we

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tell stories depending on how old we are. We

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tell stories about who we were and and even Even

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you know what we've done right and and the roles

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that we've led the successes the failures Sometimes

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they even date back or we we start, you know

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way far back when we're in high school or college

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You know, I was this and and I did that. Um,

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but at some point, you know that stopped working

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for me and so what I What I say now is I've learned

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from that story that I'm not that, that I'm the

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one that's telling this story about who I am

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right now and what I am doing. So today I build

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businesses, I write, and I teach from this place

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of presence, less proving who I am, but more

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alignment. Oh my God, Dylan, I love this. And

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we are so aligned in what we do, I think. I would

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say, would you say that you are now teaching

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and showing up from the scar and not from the

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wound? Absolutely. Yeah, I love that. And I actually

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say that quite a bit. When I learned that analogy,

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it's so profound, right? Because I think when

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we We have this tendency. Well, I'd let's say

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I I had this tendency to talk from this place

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of being hurt Right. It's it's from that wound

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and it's it's easy to fall into that trap Whether

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it's and I have listen I have tons of failures

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and I'm happy to talk about all of them probably

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the biggest one was was the failure of a business

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from um from really you know well what manifested

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was drinking and addiction where it came from

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though was from this loss and from this trauma

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of being abandoned um in in in some sense um

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as a child and and so And it took a long time

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for me to not talk about that, not feel just

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emotional and that well up that we have inside

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of ourselves and talk from a place of hurt. But

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once it does scar over, once we work on healing

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that and once we can get past that, then it becomes

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a scar. And I think it's beautiful that these

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scars make us who we are. They don't define us.

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So you won't hear me talk about it. Oh, woe is

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me and and and because I don't believe that.

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I mean, I wouldn't go back a minute and trade

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any of those experiences because it's it's it's

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futile, right? I think it's it's really we'd

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love to. On one hand, you're like, oh, yeah,

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well, I'd go back and design this perfect life.

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But then again, if I. What does that mean to

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be perfect? And then who would I be today? Well,

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I wouldn't be having this discussion with both

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of you right now, for sure. Or if I was, then

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it would be a completely different discussion

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we're having. Oh, my God, that's so true. Adrian,

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you have brought someone really. I need to connect

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with you, Dylan. We need to connect. Absolutely.

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And yeah. You said an important thing. The things

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that happen to us do not define us. In a way,

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we have built ourselves through it, but when

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you learn to let go of the pain of it and just

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take with you the lesson, and that's it. And

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then to let go... That's freedom. That's freedom

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and that's That's your power you build power

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on that No wound just a scar telling the story,

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but without being Kept in a cage of that emotional

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Of that emotional cage now you can help now you

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can help from another Standing point and that's

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powerful Dylan. That's very powerful. Yeah, you

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know, I just want to say I it's unbelievable

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how like life lines up right? Like I haven't

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been feeling good. So Dylan I've canceled like

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almost. almost three weeks of interviews. But

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then today, I'm like, I want to do it, I want

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to do it live. And then for Katja to be in the

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room and Katja, could you introduce yourself?

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And then we have Shadow Fox, Stevie. Hi, Marion,

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I don't know you were recording live and the

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conversation, but like right away, I see that,

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what is it called? I like that, I think Coincadink,

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right? But there's so much more to it, so. I'd

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love to have this be like a roundtable conversation,

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because I think Katja is going to do a way better

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job of pulling information out of you than I

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would, and Shadow Fox too. So Katja, would you

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take a second to introduce yourself? And then

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I'm adding you to the show notes as a co -host,

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because I really appreciate this and definitely

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will connect you two together. So do you mind,

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Katja? Do you have time to introduce yourself?

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Of course, I don't mind it at all. So I'm a subconscious

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reprogramming expert. So what I do, what we were

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talking about, I help people rewire those old

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crystallized limiting beliefs that were created

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till the age of seven mostly, those are the most

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crystallized beliefs. And, you know, I work with

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high achieving people who look on the paper all

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well and settle, but inside they are crumbling.

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So I help them rewrite that part and become free.

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I help them to live from the scar, not from the

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wound. So that's it. Yeah, I wish I I wish we

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would have met 15 years ago. It would have been

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super helpful You know that story that you what

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you just said is so It is a hundred percent poignant

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for me because in essence what what happened

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to me and I Tell the story all the time. I was

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running an agency Advertising branding marketing

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agency super successful on paper, right? Everything

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was going for us You know staff of about 25 people

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wonderful beautiful staff members a great partner

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fantastic clients we won lots of awards making

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lots of money and Had a you know, have a beautiful

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wife beautiful children and yet Eroded myself

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on the inside. I mean in reality I remember standing

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up in my office one day and when all of this

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wonderful stuff was going on right and and because

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the key is I Hadn't addressed and I wasn't aware

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and I bring this word up awareness is so important

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to me I wasn't aware that I was dealing and had

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been dealing internally I packaged down these

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these aspects of my childhood into you know Compacted

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them into these little diamonds and forced them

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way down inside and didn't even know they existed

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and and asked myself this existential question

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It was like why am I why am I doing this? What

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is it for? And that's a scary question when all

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the stuff is great yet You know I and and I could

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see it, but I didn't feel it and and to me what

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was happening is I was realizing that that my

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work life was completely out of alignment with

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who I was. I was really good at it, but that

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didn't matter. And so it's, it's interesting

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that, that, that, and then that led to really

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complete downfall. I mean, it led to, you know,

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as, as, as I say, really blowing up everything

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because I didn't have someone like you and, or

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maybe I did. But the one thing that And I like

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to say now is reach outside, right, and look

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for those people that can help you, because I

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didn't. I didn't look to those people closest

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to me to help. And so it was really an interesting

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thing. And so then I spent the next 10 years

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rewiring and doing that internal work, trying

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to get to that place where I could feel comfortable

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with who I was and then be in alignment to build

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on that and build a new life for myself. Wow

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kudos to you kudos to you Dylan you did the work

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and listen 15 years ago. I Couldn't help you

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Almost I was actually physically dying Why it

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was you know physical illness is the last chain

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last link in the chain And I was there so actually

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I have I have built rebuilt again my identity

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to become someone who can help myself and now

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help others. So I think now is the perfect timing,

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Dylan, that we met. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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I'm glad you're doing that work for sure. So

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you're in North Carolina? Actually, no, I'm actually

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in right now. I'm in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico.

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So I live with my family in both Mexico and Texas

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now. Oh, got it. What is your website? My personal

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website is Dylan Clayton bossed .com or you can

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go to Dylan bossed .com. Either of those work

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in the company website is sunny hq .io. Okay,

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I just want to pull it up and welcome to the

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stage. We have Shadow Fox. Are you able to unmute

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and say hello Shadow Fox? Yeah, hello. Hello,

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Dylan. It's it's nice to meet you. You know,

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pretty much like what Katya does, I also work

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within the framework of energy of helping people

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navigate life through awareness, you know, conscious

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awareness. Yeah. And I, you know, like when it

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comes to whether it be addictions and so on and

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so forth. Yeah, we tend to we tend to really

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be ourselves up sometimes don't we we do yeah

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no doubt yeah but it is it is very nice to meet

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you good to meet you it's uh i'm dylan this is

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probably maybe the first time you've ever been

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in a podcast where you have i know you have your

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own podcast so we want to hear about that but

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it may be the first time you've heard a podcast

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where there's other voices in the room It is

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really wonderful. We've got Stevie here if you

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want to Mike Stevie Marianne. Hello Jean Paul

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Really interesting so would love to if you'd

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like to introduce yourself Rosie amazing Leah's

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here Leah is from the chatter community She's

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a community manager and she works with us every

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day Leah everything worked out. Okay Dylan is

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here and I just want to show your website because

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It's really it's really lovely Dylan if you don't

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mind. I think it may go right ahead questions

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Sure. Okay. So first of all, I really meant it

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when I said I started by saying that Dylan has

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a really great face I mean like you could see

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it on the camera, but also It really like I've

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noticed all your pictures. So your coach a speaker

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and digital strategy So with everything we heard

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and I love having katya here and and actually

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asking some of those questions Um, so where are

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you now? Like what is what is your goal? You?

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Oh, tell us about the seven mirrors actually.

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Let's let's learn about this your book Yeah,

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so, um, the seven mirrors is is a book about

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remembering yourself. Um, so I guess it started

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when um about eight months ago, I actually was,

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I don't know if you're familiar with the Temascale,

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the Temascale is an indigenous essentially it's

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a sweat lodge. And so I've spent a lot of time

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in and around indigenous culture in Mexico and

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in Costa Rica. And I was actually in the middle

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of the ceremony and the way that it is formatted

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is essentially it's a sweat lodge, right? So

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you go inside this kind of dome shaped tent and

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there's hot stones that are brought in and they

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call it four doors. So it's basically the doors

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open, they bring hot stones in, close the door,

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you're in there, there's messages that are spoken

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about, there's usually singing and chanting.

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And at one point, the doors were divided into

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these four sections, and they're meant to represent

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basically four phases of life. And so from 0

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to 13, from 13 to 26, and so on and so forth,

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we got to the last door, and And that's to 52.

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And they always would ask, who's basically inside

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this 15 -minute container? Who's represented

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here and I had never raised my hand and and um

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One pablo jp, um turn and said would you know

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dylan? How old are you and at the time I was

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54? And and he said oh brother. He said you're

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an abuelo and now abuelo in Spanish is grandfather,

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but it also in this meaning it means that it

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now is the phase of life when you teach and you

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know hit me profoundly because I'd only known

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JP for really a short period of time, maybe five

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or six months. And so we didn't really have this,

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you know, it was this intimate thing for him

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to tell me from someone it wouldn't be expected

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from. And I'd heard this from a couple of others

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in the past and what that and I followed up with

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him in a conversation afterwards. And what I

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started to understand is the importance as we

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get to a certain age. of really making sure that

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we may not think that we know a lot, but whatever

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we do think we do know, it's really our responsibility

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to teach. And so this came really on the heels

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of, like I said, about 10 years of some deep

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reflection and inner work. And I really looked

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at what is it that I've learned that I feel really

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That I feel is really important that I relate

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to anyone that wants to listen and and so One

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is that story of rebuilding my life? I've to

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have had a lot of experience in the plant medicine

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world and in rewiring my own nervous system and

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in coming to know myself and this manifested

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itself in inserting a you know journaling and

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a manuscript and what was born out of that was

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this idea of using And in this word mirrors is

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spoken a lot in those circles in the idea of

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of what's reflected to us through other people

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usually and what began to unfold or two things

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this idea of mirrors and and and The fact that

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when we meet someone and so the way I usually

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explain this is for instance you know when we're

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out at let's say a party or dinner or some event

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and we meet someone and and and there's a good

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note or you know there's a positive and negative

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side to this it's easier for some reason for

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me to relate this on the negative side but when

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someone usually triggers us right when when we

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meet someone we just can't figure out why i just

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don't like that person you know it's not even

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that they said really anything offensive it's

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just something about them 100 % of the time,

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there's something in that person. There's some

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attributes, some behavior, some personality trait

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that's reflected that's actually us, right? And

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so if we can learn what that is and not fend

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it off, not ignore it, but learn from that person,

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what is it about that person that triggered me,

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we can usually find that there's something in

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us that needs to be healed. And so the idea of

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these seven mirrors walks us through through

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just my own experiences and how I've found these

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things and begins to diagram out kind of a format

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to help. Well, it's something that I used in

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my own life to help me through that process and

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learn from it. And then the core kind of the

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byline to this is a guide to remembering yourself.

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So I also heard for many, many years this idea

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and you all are probably familiar with this this

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idea of of our higher self right we want to we

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want to get to a point where where we're in alignment

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with our higher self and something about that

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didn't really sit right with me because that

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implied that i'm a lower version of that and

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what i came to really realize is i believe that

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it's less about trying to to be a higher version

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of ourselves it's more about simply remembering

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who we really are and so when we're born we're

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perfect Right where we've just crossed over right

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and we're this perfect version of We already

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know in fact who we are going to be at that point

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i'm convinced of it But then the conditioning

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starts. It's natural no harm. No foul. No criticism

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to the world But it's just the way it is right

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our parents condition us culture condition us

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um society conditions us all these forces start

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to shape then and depending on our fortitude

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and in my case because i'm a pleaser and i'm

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a good adapter i i easily started to put on you

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know, metaphorical clothing, I started to bring

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in armor and devices that would protect me from

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things. And I started to modify who I am. And

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so what I've really learned in the last, you

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know, five to 10 years is the idea is more about,

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you know, more about healing from those traumas,

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removing that armor, removing those heavy cloaks

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and things that we're wearing that change who

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we are and simply remembering who we are. and

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finding the beauty and the wonder in absolutely

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everything that we are. And so the book is really

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about that. It's a guide that's really led with,

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it's more meant to be somewhat of a memoir, but

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it's through the things that I remember and through

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the experiences that I have, this is how those

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things are manifested. And then I really also

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wanted it to be you know as much as possible

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look learn from these things you don't have to

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if you recognize these aspects in yourself that

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are that are some that You can compare to the

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experiences that i've had, you know Here's some

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things that that I wish I would have known 10

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years ago that would have helped me Um, maybe

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it would have saved me from some grief Take the

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mic Katya Katya Thank you, darling. So Dylan,

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I really think that we were separated at birth.

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So this is the first thing that I can tell. And

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I feel for sure purchase. Can you tell us where

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we can purchase your book? That book seems so

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on point. Not yet. I'm finishing it. So I'm at

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the very end right now. Yeah, I'm in the last

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kind of editing phase. So my hope is that it

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will be ready in the spring. So I'll definitely

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stay in touch. And you can go to my website right

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now. And there's a link at the top for book.

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And one of the easiest ways to stay involved

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is just to give me your email address. And as

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soon as things are ready, I'm going to send out

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the first chapter. to everyone and also that

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way also I have a lot of content that goes out

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on a monthly basis that does kind of start to

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get into the book topics as well. Awesome, awesome.

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I have a question. So what is a story that you

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would choose now to tell us from your early career

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that now feels like a mirror you wish You'd seen

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back then Yeah, I think one of the I think you

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know a story is That I would tell is that I always

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believed well to to court things You know that

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it's easy for us to fall into that trap of lack.

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So You know very different belief I have today

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is it's there there's this abundance for all

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of us. So in my first business I believe that

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we were in a competition with everyone out there,

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that we were constantly in this state of we have

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to win everything. It's a zero sum game. And

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what I know now today is it's not. There's more

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than enough business to support literally every

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business out there. The key is to find the alignment

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pieces, right? The key is that I don't need to

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sell what I have. And sales really kind of a...

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a dirty word to me to some extent. I don't need

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to align with those people who are looking for

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something that I can provide them. I don't need

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everyone, right? It's more important that we

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find this true alignment, this partnership, that

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there's value exchanged in both directions. And

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so in that first business, you know, we were

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constantly, you know, I think in a state of suffering,

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right? Because we're constantly, if we weren't

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winning it, then we were losing. And and then

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you start to look at how that negatively impacts

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your psyche. And then along with that, right,

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there's this beautiful statement of that that

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I learned along the way of that the universe

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is happening for us, not to us. Right. So there's

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a really it's a small thing, but it's so profound

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when we start to realize is that every loss.

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is a message. There's a learning. There's a lesson

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in that loss. The same thing for every win. There's

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a lesson in there. And so it's taking that forward

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and realizing that path wasn't necessarily for

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me. Maybe it looked wonderful and sexy that I

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was going to win that opportunity. But in reality,

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it was in the not winning it that was more important

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for me to take that learning forward in my life.

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Dylan, I just want to say I'm enjoying this conversation.

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So we're live on Channer Social, which I mentioned,

00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:53.440
and it's a global app. So I am so excited to

00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.759
introduce you to probably one of the smartest

00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.220
human beings I know, and it's Jean -Paul. Jean

00:26:00.220 --> 00:26:02.279
-Paul, please take the mic. I'm so glad you're

00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:06.529
here. No, I appreciate that Adrian. Hello Dylan.

00:26:06.630 --> 00:26:08.789
It's a pleasure to hear your story and what you

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bring forth and what you just read my question

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to you is In your empirical observation through

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your client and and the people that you meet

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how do they Create or fall into this narrative

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of lack because we start you know as as children

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abundant and all of that What is what is your

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observation of how people? End up in that space

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where we're running and rushing after everything

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to try to fill that black Well, I think it doesn't

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help you know, I know we're global here and then

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I don't know about other countries But you know

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and they in the US right? I think that You know,

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and this is present now more than ever, you know

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this idea that we are our successes you know

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and and and It's this trap that we we've conditioned

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ourselves in society now to you know for instance

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I was thinking about this just yesterday and

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I'm in this was so profound this hit me now I'm

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the the husband of a wonderful woman Kimberly

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and and I'm the father of three but two of them

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are daughters and I thought You know what would

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make me? You know not more happy than anything

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in the world, but but I thought about this juxtaposition

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of Motherhood and and the importance of that

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and i'm not actually sure that there's any more

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important job. Then that and and and so that

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is an example right we we in the us i know you

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know we look at at women who don't. You know

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go out in the world and forge a path and that

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look that's fine there's no doubt it's wonderful

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and i know this is a huge topic but i looked

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at the importance of what what's happening now

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because culturally we play so little importance

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on motherhood and more rather more importance

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on people going out and being successful and

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having careers and jobs. The problem is, as we've

00:28:12.619 --> 00:28:15.019
seen, is what happens to the kids, right? And

00:28:15.019 --> 00:28:17.819
that's not to put all the pressure on mothers.

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Obviously, fathers have a huge role in that as

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well. But it hit me like a ton of bricks, right?

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And that's, I think, one small aspect. and that

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bleeds over into young boys as well, is that

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we, from the time, and look at it today, and

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this is a cliche, right? I mean, it's ever present

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in nearly every television show out there, right?

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This idea that we're deciding really the future

00:28:46.059 --> 00:28:49.829
of our kids before they're born. We have... You

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know, we're deciding what schools they go to

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and their pathway from from kindergarten is through

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this, you know, elementary school into this middle

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school into this. And I think about that as it

00:29:01.309 --> 00:29:04.210
relates to my own life. And it's like, I mean,

00:29:04.309 --> 00:29:07.630
if if I were to pre -design where I need to be

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in 10 years and not the direction isn't good

00:29:10.490 --> 00:29:14.750
because directions good, but but trying to format

00:29:14.750 --> 00:29:18.549
that in a specific way where it's rigid is not

00:29:18.549 --> 00:29:22.410
good. There's a great analogy, I love that. So

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whether you believe that we went to the moon

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or not is not important in this analogy. Let's

00:29:26.450 --> 00:29:28.490
assume that we did that and I know that's another

00:29:28.490 --> 00:29:31.690
topic. But the beauty of this analogy is when

00:29:31.690 --> 00:29:34.829
NASA decided to go to the moon, right, we'd never

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been there before. How in the world are we gonna

00:29:36.789 --> 00:29:41.490
get there? It's a bazillion miles away. And we've

00:29:41.490 --> 00:29:43.490
never done it before and technically we don't

00:29:43.490 --> 00:29:45.890
know how to do it. But what they understood is

00:29:45.890 --> 00:29:49.079
we don't have to know how to get there. But we

00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.440
need to know a couple things. Where we are today,

00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.000
where we desire to go, and then we simply need

00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:58.400
to decide the next step, right? We need to, we

00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.200
need to decide on the next thousand meters. We

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need to decide, or another analogy is a flashlight

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in the dark, right? I don't need to know what

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is 50 yards out. I just need to know what's right

00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:11.099
in front of me. And the most important thing

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that I make, the most important decision I have

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to make is what is that next step to take? And

00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:19.750
so I think that There's some real great, profound

00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:29.029
information in that. Champal, any response? I

00:30:29.029 --> 00:30:31.430
really appreciate that. Thank you, Dylan, for

00:30:31.430 --> 00:30:33.769
that. The point that you make on motherhood is

00:30:33.769 --> 00:30:36.650
a very, very important one, I think. There is

00:30:36.650 --> 00:30:41.970
a relegation in modern culture to consider that

00:30:41.970 --> 00:30:44.690
a substandard for whatever reason, culturally

00:30:44.690 --> 00:30:48.509
speaking, from the past. It reminded me of a

00:30:48.509 --> 00:30:50.950
conversation I had with a young woman who was

00:30:50.950 --> 00:30:56.250
feeling down because her husband was claiming

00:30:56.250 --> 00:30:59.049
that she was not ambitious enough. And the more

00:30:59.049 --> 00:31:01.190
we started questioning into that, we realized

00:31:01.190 --> 00:31:04.410
that he was not living up to his ambitions. It

00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:07.130
was projecting it onto her when she was living

00:31:07.130 --> 00:31:09.309
the ambition that she had. She was successful.

00:31:09.529 --> 00:31:11.490
She wanted to be the wife. She wanted to have

00:31:11.490 --> 00:31:14.190
kids. She is the wife. She has the kids. She's

00:31:14.190 --> 00:31:16.609
living her dreams. She loves what she was doing.

00:31:17.490 --> 00:31:19.930
You don't need to take on that belief that you're

00:31:19.930 --> 00:31:21.509
not ambitious enough. You're actually the one

00:31:21.509 --> 00:31:24.109
successful. He's not the one living up to that.

00:31:24.450 --> 00:31:26.809
And when you bring forth that important part

00:31:26.809 --> 00:31:33.250
is motherhood is as valuable of a way of life,

00:31:33.529 --> 00:31:37.950
a way of being, a profession. And yeah, thank

00:31:37.950 --> 00:31:40.000
you for just... mentioning that I appreciate

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.500
that yeah and that's I mean it's interesting

00:31:42.500 --> 00:31:44.500
right you just brought up the mirror the mirror

00:31:44.500 --> 00:31:48.539
aspect if he had recognized what he saw in her

00:31:48.539 --> 00:31:51.900
rather than rather than being resistant to it

00:31:51.900 --> 00:31:54.539
but in accepting it and saying and seeing in

00:31:54.539 --> 00:31:56.819
her the positive instead of the negative then

00:31:56.819 --> 00:31:59.779
that helps to inform him on what he needs doesn't

00:31:59.779 --> 00:32:02.519
like fix everything but it's an awareness right

00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.730
it's an awareness it says oh What I see is something

00:32:06.730 --> 00:32:09.589
that I want. So how can I make that happen in

00:32:09.589 --> 00:32:13.089
my own life? And I think that's just as important

00:32:13.089 --> 00:32:16.130
as seeing, you know, well, I mean, it's the difference

00:32:16.130 --> 00:32:18.150
between seeing the positive in it instead of

00:32:18.150 --> 00:32:23.650
seeing something that's negative. John Paul,

00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:27.690
thank you. Oh, go ahead. Go back to you, Adrian.

00:32:28.069 --> 00:32:30.529
No, I can't thank you enough. I mean, you pulled

00:32:30.529 --> 00:32:34.150
out some great information. Amazing. Welcome,

00:32:34.170 --> 00:32:38.630
Laura, to the stage. Excited to have you. So

00:32:38.630 --> 00:32:41.910
and Shadow Fox, if you want to take the mic at

00:32:41.910 --> 00:32:44.589
all, I feel like you have maybe some questions

00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:47.650
or you would add something to this conversation.

00:32:47.789 --> 00:32:52.549
I have a lot of respect for you. So so you are

00:32:52.549 --> 00:32:57.450
a leadership coach. So who? What is your niche

00:32:57.450 --> 00:33:02.289
market, Dylan, so I can understand? For the most

00:33:02.289 --> 00:33:05.970
part, what I'm doing right now is I'm running

00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:09.569
a business called Sunny HQ. It's on the other

00:33:09.569 --> 00:33:12.869
side of the brain. I'm using a lot of the things

00:33:12.869 --> 00:33:16.890
that we talked about to help inform me on how

00:33:16.890 --> 00:33:19.690
to be a better leader and how to build a more

00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:27.640
conscious company. White Glove Concierge WordPress

00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:32.079
hosting from end to end. How all of this starts

00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.079
to relate to that means that I built a business

00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:40.440
today that allows me to live a life where I know

00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.819
my family, right? So I don't work 12 hours a

00:33:43.819 --> 00:33:47.579
day for five, six days a week. I'm able to start

00:33:47.579 --> 00:33:50.650
to connect with the people around me. And then

00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:53.329
a big part of what I'm doing today is, is in

00:33:53.329 --> 00:33:56.309
writing this book, and then looking for the ways

00:33:56.309 --> 00:34:00.829
that I can share that information. So that in

00:34:00.829 --> 00:34:03.369
the past has been, before the book came, came

00:34:03.369 --> 00:34:07.190
to be, that's, that's been in kind of concierge

00:34:07.190 --> 00:34:09.769
-level hosting, or, excuse me, concierge -level

00:34:09.769 --> 00:34:13.170
coaching with, with leaderships, with leaders

00:34:13.170 --> 00:34:16.230
and with leadership groups. So helping essentially

00:34:16.230 --> 00:34:19.250
to, to uncover a lot of the aspects of of what

00:34:19.250 --> 00:34:23.170
we've discussed in business. One of the things

00:34:23.170 --> 00:34:26.090
that I learned after the downfall in my first

00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:28.690
business is that I really started to understand

00:34:28.690 --> 00:34:32.030
that I had one of the biggest problems was I

00:34:32.030 --> 00:34:35.849
had separated my personal life, had compartmentalized

00:34:35.849 --> 00:34:39.210
it from my business life, right? That the business

00:34:39.210 --> 00:34:42.389
was all important. The business was everything.

00:34:42.730 --> 00:34:46.619
And in reality, I mean, it's like, trying to

00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:48.940
drive a boat in two different directions at the

00:34:48.940 --> 00:34:54.000
same time. It just won't work. And so what I

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.219
do is try to teach leaders and introduce into

00:34:59.219 --> 00:35:04.820
teams that idea that we are humans, right? And

00:35:04.820 --> 00:35:08.860
this is so, I guess, much more relative today

00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:12.519
with regard to AI, because I get asked this question

00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:16.000
a lot, is how is AI affecting business? The important

00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.500
thing to understand with AI is that it's a tool.

00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:23.679
And so it can help us actually take, it can take

00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.559
away a lot of the aspects of our business that

00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:30.380
are mundane, that take away our time. So I can

00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:33.340
essentially boil down many tasks and things that

00:35:33.340 --> 00:35:35.519
would literally take four or five, six hours

00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.980
of my time into minutes. And that allows me not

00:35:38.980 --> 00:35:42.300
to work more, right? But that allows me to be

00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:45.639
available more for my family. And so those are

00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.639
some of the principles that I try to take into

00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.900
business. And what I learned early on when I

00:35:51.900 --> 00:35:53.739
started this new business, one of the things

00:35:53.739 --> 00:35:56.380
I took actually from Google, I love this aspect.

00:35:56.780 --> 00:35:58.880
And I have not worked for Google, but this is

00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.780
a story that I read that Google allowed for like

00:36:01.780 --> 00:36:06.860
30 % of their. So let me make a small point.

00:36:07.340 --> 00:36:11.349
When I ran my first business, I tried to. Eek

00:36:11.349 --> 00:36:14.690
out every hour of every day if not just for me

00:36:14.690 --> 00:36:17.349
but from employees it's natural right we wanna

00:36:17.349 --> 00:36:20.929
if we're working harder and we're producing more

00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:24.449
than we make more money and that's very one dimensional

00:36:24.449 --> 00:36:27.489
right we also done that now it's not sustainable

00:36:27.489 --> 00:36:29.889
because what's gonna happen from that is you're

00:36:29.889 --> 00:36:32.150
gonna you're gonna break down your employees

00:36:32.150 --> 00:36:34.409
are gonna break down we can't sustain this level.

00:36:35.089 --> 00:36:37.769
And and when I heard this from Google, it was

00:36:37.769 --> 00:36:40.130
interesting. It's they allowed for this opportunity

00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:43.050
of about 30 % of the time is like mandated. And

00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:44.590
I don't know if this is still the case, but it

00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:48.010
was 10 years ago that that if let's say employee

00:36:48.010 --> 00:36:51.409
worked, you know, 40 hours a week, then you know.

00:36:51.630 --> 00:36:54.889
12 hours of that was supposed to be like freebie

00:36:54.889 --> 00:36:59.150
time for them to just expand on and pursue something

00:36:59.150 --> 00:37:01.449
that they were interested in, whether related

00:37:01.449 --> 00:37:04.469
to work or not. And in fact, some incredible

00:37:04.469 --> 00:37:06.710
things came out of that. Google Maps came out

00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:09.449
of that. And what that told me, though, is kind

00:37:09.449 --> 00:37:13.329
of twofold. It was like, one, that can have a

00:37:13.329 --> 00:37:16.659
really positive effect on the business. because

00:37:16.659 --> 00:37:18.699
it might develop a product that the business

00:37:18.699 --> 00:37:21.400
is never aware of, but at very least what it's

00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:26.780
going to do is allow people the freedom to be

00:37:26.780 --> 00:37:29.619
more relaxed in their environment and be better

00:37:29.619 --> 00:37:33.039
producers even inside the less amount of time.

00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:36.300
And to me, it was very easy for me to see because

00:37:36.300 --> 00:37:38.599
I was like, well, if I'm going to spend a third

00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:41.800
of my time reading a book, then I'm definitely

00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:44.679
going to be happier when I talk to a client or

00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.420
happy. when I do the design work or develop that

00:37:47.420 --> 00:37:50.420
project. And so it was very obvious in that environment.

00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.739
And so that's, those are some of the things that

00:37:52.739 --> 00:37:55.960
I try to take to, to these groups is, is, is,

00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.360
and we work through, I've, I've developed a format

00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.119
out of the book that is, that probably will be

00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:04.619
a second book about leadership as I've started

00:38:04.619 --> 00:38:06.659
to encapsulate that and bring that to kind of

00:38:06.659 --> 00:38:10.300
a platform. But that's, that's what I do in the

00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:14.409
coaching world. I love it. I love it. So we have

00:38:14.409 --> 00:38:16.730
two questions. We have Shadow Fox first and then

00:38:16.730 --> 00:38:21.670
Katja again. So Shadow Fox, take it away. Dylan,

00:38:21.989 --> 00:38:25.670
you know, this is phenomenal what you're really

00:38:25.670 --> 00:38:29.489
bringing forward to the people. Simply because

00:38:29.489 --> 00:38:32.289
whether you're looking at business or you're

00:38:32.289 --> 00:38:35.510
looking at your life, there really has to be

00:38:35.510 --> 00:38:38.110
like that happy medium. You've got to be in the

00:38:38.110 --> 00:38:45.719
flow with both. What I've noticed is that businesses

00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.400
that are shifting to the aspect of that heart

00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:55.280
-based, recognizing, giving respect, whether

00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.260
to the employees or even to the clientele. For

00:39:00.260 --> 00:39:04.960
instance, I have a neighbor he is a multimillionaire

00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:11.519
and This guy is angry and miserable and he Talks

00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:14.460
to everybody like they're you know, these lower

00:39:14.460 --> 00:39:18.019
-class citizens, you know, but yet he has a ton

00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:23.699
of money and so I mean even the even the uh energy

00:39:23.699 --> 00:39:29.519
that he puts out is it's toxic and um it's kind

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.079
of like i really wish i mean i would love to

00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.099
get your book and send it to him you know and

00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:40.139
and and no seriously because one of the things

00:39:40.139 --> 00:39:44.760
i also believe um is that if you're looking at

00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.880
you know becoming a leader in any capacity whether

00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.559
it's business or even being a parent that In

00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.900
one aspect you learn to follow first what does

00:39:56.900 --> 00:40:00.599
it feel like to be on the back end and then don't

00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:04.559
treat everybody else the way you were treated

00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:09.320
so to speak right on. Because once we step into

00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.280
that heart -based aspect then we open up into

00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.739
the flow We we really do and so I'm just I'm

00:40:17.739 --> 00:40:22.519
really enjoying listening to you speak and And

00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.539
my husband and I also have we do have a book

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:28.880
out and it's pretty much in the same Alignment

00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.780
for what you're bringing forward. But again mine

00:40:31.780 --> 00:40:38.719
is based within the realm of energy Yeah, that's

00:40:38.719 --> 00:41:02.219
beautiful. And if you're speaking, we are not

00:41:02.219 --> 00:41:05.940
hearing. Katya, thank you. I was on mute. Thank

00:41:05.940 --> 00:41:09.840
you so much. I was saying that you would be perfect

00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.539
here on ChatterSocial because ShadowFox does

00:41:13.539 --> 00:41:16.659
teaching, Jean -Paul does rooms, Katya does room,

00:41:16.860 --> 00:41:19.880
Laura's in the room does rooms. So definitely

00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.539
want you to take a look at ChatterSocial. But

00:41:23.539 --> 00:41:27.079
Katya, thank you for recognizing that I was unmiked.

00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.639
And take the mic, please. I know you have a question,

00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:35.170
so I would love to hear it. Thank you. So we

00:41:35.170 --> 00:41:39.550
all know that behind, you know, badges, behind

00:41:39.550 --> 00:41:44.269
roles, there are humans. And that's very important

00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:49.170
to know. But I have a question for you. How can

00:41:49.170 --> 00:41:54.230
someone tell if they are protecting their identity

00:41:54.230 --> 00:41:58.230
instead of serving what the business actually

00:41:58.230 --> 00:42:07.690
needs? You know, I think, and this is my answer

00:42:07.690 --> 00:42:10.710
for a lot of things these days, is that, you

00:42:10.710 --> 00:42:14.969
know, and you, I guess, this was just brought

00:42:14.969 --> 00:42:18.329
up in that it's more about feeling that it is

00:42:18.329 --> 00:42:24.599
thinking. You know, I think that... We've got

00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.219
to move out of and I spent so many years in my

00:42:28.219 --> 00:42:31.760
head Because our brains are these beautiful things,

00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.880
right? The assumption is is that our brain is

00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.320
who we are and in reality the brain is just an

00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.280
organ like every other organ it has a singular

00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.719
purpose and that singular purpose is to solve

00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:48.360
problems and Once I started to understand this

00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:51.960
I became really It was a little bit scary, because

00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:54.099
I started to ask myself the question of, well,

00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:56.920
if I'm not what I'm thinking, then what am I?

00:42:57.780 --> 00:43:02.000
But the part about that is that if the brain

00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.920
is not given a problem to solve, then it's going

00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.639
to come up with its own problems. And so there's

00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.179
a trap therein. And so moving more from that

00:43:14.179 --> 00:43:17.920
thinking side into the feeling, and that's really

00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.619
a guide a guide point for me today is if before

00:43:22.619 --> 00:43:26.079
I make any decision, and I love to practice this,

00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:28.239
and I still fall into it all the time where I

00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.199
start to make a decision, I'm like, wait a minute.

00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:35.900
And I've even developed some questions for myself

00:43:35.900 --> 00:43:39.159
to ask myself if it's in alignment with the key

00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:44.960
though is does it feel right? So if the decision

00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.539
feels right, And truly starting to understand

00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:51.500
what that means to feel that literally in your

00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:55.639
body some simple things are Are using muscle

00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:57.739
testing and if people aren't aware of what muscle

00:43:57.739 --> 00:43:59.820
testing is I would just do some you know Google

00:43:59.820 --> 00:44:01.980
what muscle testing There's some really simple

00:44:01.980 --> 00:44:04.679
things one of the easiest is to stand upright

00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.630
Just well balanced and ask yourself the question,

00:44:08.650 --> 00:44:10.690
and this is a fun thing that people can do right

00:44:10.690 --> 00:44:15.050
now, is just stand up and just ask a question.

00:44:15.349 --> 00:44:18.369
A yes or no has to be a yes or no question. And

00:44:18.369 --> 00:44:20.429
some easy things, if you don't know, you know,

00:44:20.530 --> 00:44:23.449
necessarily what to ask, you know, ask some of

00:44:23.449 --> 00:44:26.369
these global questions. Simply say war and peace

00:44:26.369 --> 00:44:30.409
or love or hate, right? Meaning if you say the

00:44:30.409 --> 00:44:33.010
word love, watch your body, your body will lean

00:44:33.010 --> 00:44:36.429
forward. If you say hate, your body will lean

00:44:36.429 --> 00:44:40.289
backwards. And the same thing with war and peace.

00:44:41.110 --> 00:44:44.050
And you can ask yourself these questions out

00:44:44.050 --> 00:44:48.530
loud. And it's really amazing. I still try to

00:44:48.530 --> 00:44:50.829
trick myself all the time, because if I really

00:44:50.829 --> 00:44:55.250
want one thing over another, it involves becoming

00:44:55.250 --> 00:44:57.250
kind of aware of where your body is and being

00:44:57.250 --> 00:45:00.090
still in that moment. But it's interesting, once

00:45:00.090 --> 00:45:03.030
you learn that your body doesn't lie, your head

00:45:03.030 --> 00:45:05.449
does all the time, because you're in it. And

00:45:05.449 --> 00:45:09.289
let me, I guess, just clarify that your head

00:45:09.289 --> 00:45:11.769
isn't lying, necessarily, right, your head doesn't

00:45:11.769 --> 00:45:15.170
really care what the answer is, is choosing based

00:45:15.170 --> 00:45:17.170
on a lot of different variables and factors.

00:45:17.550 --> 00:45:21.070
And so your body, though, has a true awareness

00:45:21.070 --> 00:45:24.769
of what what your soul what your what your entire

00:45:24.769 --> 00:45:28.690
embodied, you know, spirit wants, and it's going

00:45:28.690 --> 00:45:31.150
to help you. point you in the right direction

00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:35.789
by that answer. That's how I really start to

00:45:35.789 --> 00:45:38.369
look at that and answer some of those questions

00:45:38.369 --> 00:45:44.230
for myself. That's perfect, Dylan. Let me tell

00:45:44.230 --> 00:45:48.210
you that because this is something that I do

00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:53.150
with my clients all the time. That's a testing

00:45:53.150 --> 00:45:59.150
and many people do not know that body is connected

00:45:59.150 --> 00:46:04.429
to the subconscious mind. So the body will tell

00:46:04.429 --> 00:46:08.829
you the truth while mind will just keep up with

00:46:08.829 --> 00:46:14.650
it, just trying to make sense of it. Yeah, yeah.

00:46:15.030 --> 00:46:17.530
Sometimes I don't sometimes I don't think I want

00:46:17.530 --> 00:46:19.429
to know the answer. It's funny. I'll sit with

00:46:19.429 --> 00:46:23.139
something. I don't have a good example right

00:46:23.139 --> 00:46:25.159
now, but I'll sit with something and know it.

00:46:25.260 --> 00:46:27.480
It's in the back of my head. Something I also

00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.960
like to do is talk to myself out loud more these

00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.539
days. But I'll sit and maybe three days ago by

00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:38.179
why don't you just stand up and ask that question?

00:46:38.219 --> 00:46:41.019
The answer is there. Um, and it's an interesting

00:46:41.019 --> 00:46:43.420
thing. It's going to sound weird. You know, I

00:46:43.420 --> 00:46:44.679
mean, there's some people out there listening

00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:46.559
right now. They're like, yeah, I get it. And

00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.079
there's others like, that's the weirdest thing

00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:50.820
I've ever heard. It takes practice, right? But

00:46:50.820 --> 00:46:53.340
once you, once you get it, um, or maybe some

00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:55.179
of you've been to your practitioner out there,

00:46:55.179 --> 00:46:57.719
like you said, Katia, that, um, where you practice

00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.739
that, um, it's interesting how much, if you can

00:47:00.739 --> 00:47:03.559
have an ailment in your body and if you're working

00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:05.800
with the right person, they can use muscle testing

00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.630
and they can find out where that. where that's

00:47:08.630 --> 00:47:11.510
coming from. And once you experience it a couple

00:47:11.510 --> 00:47:14.309
times and it's undeniable, then you'll go, okay,

00:47:14.349 --> 00:47:16.070
well, maybe there's maybe there's something to

00:47:16.070 --> 00:47:19.230
this. And but I can I can attest to it. It's

00:47:19.230 --> 00:47:21.690
100 % of the time, if I truly want to know the

00:47:21.690 --> 00:47:23.909
answer to something, and I'm willing and receptive

00:47:23.909 --> 00:47:27.190
and open to it, if I simply stand up and do that,

00:47:27.449 --> 00:47:29.750
do that muscle testing, it's it's interesting.

00:47:30.110 --> 00:47:32.010
And then I have to have a willingness to move

00:47:32.010 --> 00:47:34.230
forward with it, right, then it's it's it's all

00:47:34.230 --> 00:47:36.449
up to me to do something with that information.

00:47:38.730 --> 00:47:40.630
I am loving this. We have two more questions.

00:47:40.809 --> 00:47:43.909
We have, thank you, Katja. We have Marianne and

00:47:43.909 --> 00:47:46.110
then we'll go back to Jean -Paul. Marianne, take

00:47:46.110 --> 00:47:56.190
the mic. Hi, Dylan. Nice to hear you here. Thank

00:47:56.190 --> 00:47:59.829
you. I'm not a worker in this field. I'm just

00:47:59.829 --> 00:48:04.280
an artist who loves to work with. feelings and

00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:08.820
emotions. And that's also my question. And I

00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:10.739
love it that you have been in the Sweat Lodge.

00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.619
I've been several times in the Sweat Lodge and

00:48:13.619 --> 00:48:19.179
it's very helpful, very, very helpful. What I

00:48:19.179 --> 00:48:22.420
like the most from the Sweat Lodge is that you

00:48:22.420 --> 00:48:30.760
can help each other so much in the energy. Keeping

00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:36.239
to sit up, but I want I wanted to know How you

00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:41.320
make the difference between? feelings and emotions

00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:47.760
You know, I think that um You know, those things

00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:52.480
are so closely related, right? And and you know,

00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.789
I guess to me The feeling is the manifestation

00:48:55.789 --> 00:49:00.510
of what that emotion is. And the exploration

00:49:00.510 --> 00:49:05.230
of what that actually means is important. So

00:49:05.230 --> 00:49:10.869
meaning, if I'm feeling angry about something,

00:49:11.030 --> 00:49:16.849
maybe it's because I'm scared. And so trying

00:49:16.849 --> 00:49:19.050
to, and this, I guess, leads me to something

00:49:19.050 --> 00:49:23.119
that's really important to me, that idea of the

00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.619
difference between reaction and response. And

00:49:26.619 --> 00:49:31.119
that idea that as it relates to even my own,

00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.840
I guess, understanding of who I am and what I'm

00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:37.099
going through, that especially as it relates

00:49:37.099 --> 00:49:42.039
to the world outside me. So that idea of if I

00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:47.320
react instantly to that anger, then 10 times

00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:49.760
out of 10, I'm going to make a bad decision.

00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:54.989
But if I take a breath, and take a moment and

00:49:54.989 --> 00:49:59.389
give myself an opportunity to respond. So whether

00:49:59.389 --> 00:50:01.889
that's an internal response, that then helps

00:50:01.889 --> 00:50:05.670
me get to the emotion and what's underlying from

00:50:05.670 --> 00:50:09.849
that feeling. And so that's something I take

00:50:09.849 --> 00:50:13.230
to me and still it's a practice. I gotta say,

00:50:13.570 --> 00:50:15.849
I'd like to really underscore everything I'm

00:50:15.849 --> 00:50:19.449
saying with, I'm by no means perfect or even

00:50:19.449 --> 00:50:22.559
close to it at any of this. it. But I love to

00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:24.579
talk about this stuff, because it helps me hold

00:50:24.579 --> 00:50:28.880
myself accountable. And there's this beauty,

00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:33.260
once we learn to, to respond, instead of react.

00:50:33.780 --> 00:50:37.480
And I heard this once, and I think about this

00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.420
all the time, that, and I think everyone can

00:50:40.420 --> 00:50:43.500
relate to this. Practice this the next time you're

00:50:43.500 --> 00:50:46.159
triggered in a situation, or at least be aware

00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.360
of it, and it'll help lead you to a practice

00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:52.719
of When we react to something, so the first thing

00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.559
we say, right? That instantaneous thing that

00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.980
we say that snap back is never the right thing

00:50:58.980 --> 00:51:01.000
to say. But you know, it's interesting is the

00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.500
second thing that we say is exactly how we really

00:51:05.500 --> 00:51:09.340
feel and and is a response. And so the trick

00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:12.789
is that's why I say it. Take a breath. The trick

00:51:12.789 --> 00:51:15.650
is it in light of and i'm saying in that in the

00:51:15.650 --> 00:51:18.369
crunch time, you know And in that last moment

00:51:18.369 --> 00:51:21.090
when someone says something and where we haven't

00:51:21.090 --> 00:51:23.710
we're not quite at an argument yet But but someone

00:51:23.710 --> 00:51:26.909
says something that really digs in The importance

00:51:26.909 --> 00:51:30.829
is if I take a breath and allow myself that that

00:51:30.829 --> 00:51:35.150
that moment to respond Um, then who I really

00:51:35.150 --> 00:51:37.889
am and the true emotion behind what I really

00:51:37.889 --> 00:51:40.969
want to communicate is going to be felt um, not

00:51:41.150 --> 00:51:44.269
you know, not the feeling side of it, not that

00:51:44.269 --> 00:51:48.070
raw reaction side of it. And so it's something

00:51:48.070 --> 00:51:51.949
that I really try to remind myself regularly

00:51:51.949 --> 00:51:54.750
because there's this beauty that can be found.

00:51:55.010 --> 00:51:56.829
And you know what, you can save yourself so much

00:51:56.829 --> 00:52:00.789
time and grief if you learn to respond to everything

00:52:00.789 --> 00:52:07.369
in your life instead of react. Marianne, that

00:52:07.369 --> 00:52:10.510
was a great question. What a response. Wow. Did

00:52:10.510 --> 00:52:13.789
you have... Marianne, before we go to Jean -Paul,

00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:19.550
did you want to respond? Yeah, I love the response.

00:52:20.329 --> 00:52:24.989
I think we can sometimes mix up the words emotion

00:52:24.989 --> 00:52:30.269
and feelings, because emotions are very... Well,

00:52:30.349 --> 00:52:36.389
emotions come from the mind. from the ideas that

00:52:36.389 --> 00:52:42.989
we have from our earlier experiences. So, well,

00:52:43.170 --> 00:52:48.590
I was looking where is your field of that? Personally,

00:52:48.769 --> 00:52:54.849
I would bind feelings also to the energy between

00:52:54.849 --> 00:52:57.889
the people. But that's not the topic, I think.

00:52:58.489 --> 00:53:04.849
Yeah, absolutely. I agree. Absolutely. Oh, my

00:53:04.849 --> 00:53:07.269
gosh. And Dylan, I got to be honest with you.

00:53:07.269 --> 00:53:09.929
I don't think I would have had this. I know I

00:53:09.929 --> 00:53:12.610
wouldn't have. I would not have been able to

00:53:12.610 --> 00:53:16.449
carry this interview if it wasn't for Katya,

00:53:16.510 --> 00:53:18.829
Shanna Fox, Jean Paul is next, and Mary Ann.

00:53:19.150 --> 00:53:22.070
And it's crazy because it's not like they always

00:53:22.070 --> 00:53:24.989
come into the room. So as I said in the beginning,

00:53:25.050 --> 00:53:27.929
this is incredible. Jean Paul, we'll have you

00:53:27.929 --> 00:53:31.449
ask the last question. And take it away, please.

00:53:31.530 --> 00:53:38.920
And thank you. Well, I really appreciate everything

00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.619
you've been sharing Dylan. We definitely have

00:53:41.619 --> 00:53:45.039
similar pathways on how we experience things

00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.039
and how we go through that. I wanted to comment

00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.000
on and have your thoughts on that. You mentioned

00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:56.179
earlier on how you use muscles testing and one

00:53:56.179 --> 00:53:58.900
of the things that's very important in that is

00:53:58.900 --> 00:54:03.139
do I even want to know that answer? And I think

00:54:03.139 --> 00:54:07.590
that's a very critical piece there because like

00:54:07.590 --> 00:54:12.489
I I'm as a practitioner as a coach I use the

00:54:12.489 --> 00:54:15.510
mind body relationship, but I go mine first That's

00:54:15.510 --> 00:54:17.889
my approach towards it, but we recognize it's

00:54:17.889 --> 00:54:19.710
in contrast and all of that but there's a way

00:54:19.710 --> 00:54:23.230
to go from the mind down there and Every times

00:54:23.230 --> 00:54:26.389
my client tells me I don't know When I'm asking

00:54:26.389 --> 00:54:28.829
them a question, it's not that they don't know

00:54:28.829 --> 00:54:31.309
the answer is right there. They don't want to

00:54:31.309 --> 00:54:35.550
see it and Don't know if that's the case in your

00:54:35.550 --> 00:54:37.730
observation and I'd be curious about that but

00:54:37.730 --> 00:54:40.989
almost every single time with my clients is that

00:54:40.989 --> 00:54:45.150
There's a self -preserving or self -protection.

00:54:45.150 --> 00:54:49.010
That is why they say they don't want to see it

00:54:49.010 --> 00:54:52.230
Yeah, you know and I think for me it might be

00:54:52.230 --> 00:54:56.550
I totally agree first of all But maybe well for

00:54:56.550 --> 00:54:59.570
me, maybe it's not that I don't want to see it

00:54:59.610 --> 00:55:02.809
What I think I'm really starting to understand

00:55:02.809 --> 00:55:07.989
from all of my work is that I'm not ready to

00:55:07.989 --> 00:55:15.349
see it. I'm not ready to work through. There's

00:55:15.349 --> 00:55:19.309
this key difference between awareness and integration.

00:55:19.550 --> 00:55:23.030
Right. So I can, if I become aware of something,

00:55:23.070 --> 00:55:25.869
but I'm not ready to integrate it, I'm not ready

00:55:25.869 --> 00:55:29.849
to actually do something about it. Um, then it's

00:55:29.849 --> 00:55:33.369
not that it's not valuable, but, um, that depending

00:55:33.369 --> 00:55:35.489
on what the situation is and what it is that

00:55:35.489 --> 00:55:38.389
I'm presented with, it could, you know, I could,

00:55:38.429 --> 00:55:41.429
it could bring up thoughts of fear, um, anxiety.

00:55:41.550 --> 00:55:45.889
And so You know, in my earlier example, you know,

00:55:45.889 --> 00:55:49.530
I think it was somewhat of just a trite. I don't

00:55:49.530 --> 00:55:52.230
think I'm ready to do that yet. Or maybe I don't

00:55:52.230 --> 00:55:53.690
want to know the answer. Maybe I want to hold

00:55:53.690 --> 00:55:56.769
myself hostage, right, to some extent to self

00:55:56.769 --> 00:55:59.630
sabotaging side. But I think I'm really coming

00:55:59.630 --> 00:56:03.570
to understand more that it's and I've learned

00:56:03.570 --> 00:56:07.590
some of this through plant medicine is that I

00:56:07.590 --> 00:56:11.070
can know something. You know i can know something

00:56:11.070 --> 00:56:15.150
in my head but if i don't truly understand it

00:56:15.150 --> 00:56:17.449
then i don't really know what to do with that

00:56:17.449 --> 00:56:19.989
information and they can and they can drive me

00:56:19.989 --> 00:56:22.389
in a different direction that maybe and so maybe

00:56:22.389 --> 00:56:25.960
that's. That's what that's about, right? And

00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:27.860
maybe that's exactly what you're saying, where

00:56:27.860 --> 00:56:31.460
it's like, I'm not ready for it. I will be. And

00:56:31.460 --> 00:56:33.760
at the point, and I'm giving myself a lot of

00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.579
grace these days. It's interesting. I used to

00:56:36.579 --> 00:56:38.599
think I've got to do, do, do. I've got to get

00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:42.460
everything done. And what I've learned in the

00:56:42.460 --> 00:56:45.980
last 10 years is we're never done. And it's more

00:56:45.980 --> 00:56:48.460
important that rather looking for that kind of

00:56:48.460 --> 00:56:51.920
that... That in chapter right looking for that

00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:55.420
goal that that i'm just really enjoying every

00:56:55.420 --> 00:56:59.159
piece of Of you know of the turmoil that I go

00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.199
through of the successes that I have Um, and

00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:05.320
so in the in the when i'm ready to realize that

00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.159
thing and my wife I know points this out all

00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:08.780
the time. It's like how could you not figure

00:57:08.780 --> 00:57:10.780
that out? I was like, maybe i'm not ready to

00:57:10.780 --> 00:57:13.539
figure it out yet. Um, and maybe I need to be

00:57:13.539 --> 00:57:17.019
okay with with not you know with just simply

00:57:17.340 --> 00:57:20.400
Be okay with not understanding it at this point

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:29.500
and not being confused. That's an interesting

00:57:29.500 --> 00:57:32.619
way to see it. I know that in my world, awareness

00:57:32.619 --> 00:57:37.019
is key. And even being aware of something that

00:57:37.019 --> 00:57:40.199
you cannot do anything about it, just that awareness

00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:43.159
and accepting. For me, that's the difference.

00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:47.119
It's accepting that... I'm not ready to do anything

00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.019
about it, but at least I know it's there. I can.

00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:52.480
Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. Which is very different

00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:56.420
from I'm hiding from it and it's, it's doing

00:57:56.420 --> 00:57:58.940
things in my life without me having any control

00:57:58.940 --> 00:58:01.300
over it. And, and, and that's where a lot of

00:58:01.300 --> 00:58:04.420
the story of self -sabotage comes in when you

00:58:04.420 --> 00:58:06.599
become clear that yeah, well, I am protecting

00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:08.599
myself. I got this one. I've been solved it yet.

00:58:08.619 --> 00:58:10.920
I know I'm working on it or I'm not working on

00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:14.460
it. And so when things blow up because of that,

00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.639
I don't blame myself for it. I don't want to

00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:19.920
beat myself. I know it's there. I've not done

00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.960
the work yet. So that's why, you know, it's not

00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:24.980
solved. It's still there, but at least I'm aware

00:58:24.980 --> 00:58:27.920
of it. It's not it. It removes that little bit

00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:32.460
of mystery or question of why am I doing this

00:58:32.460 --> 00:58:35.340
or why is this happening? And so that's what

00:58:35.340 --> 00:58:38.159
for me that I don't know. I'd rather know it

00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:39.619
and accept the fact that I'm not going to do

00:58:39.619 --> 00:58:42.510
anything about it, but it is I know it. But that's

00:58:42.510 --> 00:58:46.030
100 % on that instead of yeah, I don't know it.

00:58:46.150 --> 00:58:48.590
It's it's it's it's something's happening to

00:58:48.590 --> 00:58:52.289
me. I don't know where you know Yeah, and that's

00:58:52.289 --> 00:58:54.929
where you know for me that the idea of I don't

00:58:54.929 --> 00:58:57.329
know Yeah, and absolutely there is a notion of

00:58:57.329 --> 00:59:01.050
being ready to tackle it and integrated. I agree

00:59:01.050 --> 00:59:04.070
That's where you go and do the healing work go

00:59:04.070 --> 00:59:07.070
the into integration work Whatever modality that

00:59:07.070 --> 00:59:09.909
is multiline with you on that for me that first

00:59:09.909 --> 00:59:12.949
awareness When you say, I don't know, there's

00:59:12.949 --> 00:59:15.309
a part that I don't really want to see it right

00:59:15.309 --> 00:59:20.730
now. And I don't want to see it for a purpose.

00:59:21.889 --> 00:59:24.949
And I'd like to find out what that purpose is,

00:59:25.190 --> 00:59:27.650
because at least now I'm aware that I have that

00:59:27.650 --> 00:59:32.590
intention that's running my life. Almost every

00:59:32.590 --> 00:59:34.889
self -saboteur story that I've heard of people

00:59:34.889 --> 00:59:37.329
bringing it up to me is just they don't recognize

00:59:37.329 --> 00:59:39.210
that unconscious intent because the moment you

00:59:39.210 --> 00:59:41.750
see where that unconscious intent is, there is

00:59:41.750 --> 00:59:45.869
no self -saboteur. You acted out on that unconscious

00:59:45.869 --> 00:59:48.650
intent and it was perfect for that. Even if you

00:59:48.650 --> 00:59:51.630
blow up and scream and yell at people, which

00:59:51.630 --> 00:59:54.530
is obviously for your conscious goal not productive,

00:59:55.250 --> 00:59:58.340
for your unconscious goal, That unconscious intent

00:59:58.340 --> 01:00:00.820
in the moment. That was the perfect response

01:00:00.820 --> 01:00:03.840
to that And yeah, well, I love that you said

01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:07.119
that Yeah, I'd love that you said that about

01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.539
awareness because it's I I say this all the time

01:00:09.539 --> 01:00:12.139
Awareness to me out of all the things I talk

01:00:12.139 --> 01:00:15.840
about is the most important um, I call it my

01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.719
medicine, um, because When I was when I had my

01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.860
first big Breakthrough awakening whatever you

01:00:22.860 --> 01:00:25.420
want to call it when I was around 40 years old

01:00:25.420 --> 01:00:32.519
Now it was scary as hell but I became aware of

01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:37.920
things in my early childhood that had gone like

01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:40.960
Were completely hidden to me until that point

01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:43.880
the the fear part of it The scary part was like

01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:46.679
that I that they were there and I wasn't aware

01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.389
of them And that's why I'd love that because

01:00:49.389 --> 01:00:52.010
it's like once I did become aware, I didn't necessarily

01:00:52.010 --> 01:00:54.690
know what to do, but you're 100 % right. Once

01:00:54.690 --> 01:00:57.550
I was aware, I couldn't help but do something

01:00:57.550 --> 01:01:00.030
about it, right? I mean, I couldn't help but

01:01:00.030 --> 01:01:04.869
get on some slide, some path, some road to making

01:01:04.869 --> 01:01:08.429
a change in my life because you're right, before

01:01:08.429 --> 01:01:11.510
you're aware of it, how can you be expected to

01:01:11.510 --> 01:01:13.670
make a change, right? You're going to live from

01:01:13.670 --> 01:01:17.550
a place of reaction only. Um, and so I 100 agree

01:01:17.550 --> 01:01:21.070
awareness to me is the best medicine on the planet

01:01:21.070 --> 01:01:28.070
Well, that's the starting point for any personal

01:01:28.070 --> 01:01:32.150
development journey at any scale Absolutely,

01:01:32.230 --> 01:01:35.289
it's an end. It's a beautiful never -ending spiral.

01:01:35.449 --> 01:01:40.960
Yep. I love that. Yep it is Wow, thank you, Dylan.

01:01:41.099 --> 01:01:43.900
You've given us an hour of your time. I want

01:01:43.900 --> 01:01:46.539
to thank you. I want to, I will be introducing

01:01:46.539 --> 01:01:48.659
you and just sending you some more information

01:01:48.659 --> 01:01:52.079
of Katya, Shadow Fox, Jean Paul, and Marianne.

01:01:52.219 --> 01:01:54.019
You guys are going to be listed in the show notes,

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so I'm going to make sure I grab your information

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so you can see that. And this has been great.

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Is there anything that wasn't asked of you that

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you would like to share before we say goodbye?

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I don't think so. I know this is a great conversation.

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I really appreciate all the insight from everyone.

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It's beautiful. Thank you so much. I know. I

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can't, I can't thank the team here on chatter

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social for being in the room and coming in. It's,

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it's just, what's the right word? Someone give

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me the right word. I want to say Sarah. Synchronous.

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That's it. Oh my gosh. Okay. I'm going to end

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the stream. Thank you everyone for watching.

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I have enjoyed this and Dylan just amazing. We'll

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get this produced in about a week and a half.

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So very excited and I'm going to end the stream

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right now. So thank you all for joining us.