Be Like Water: Leadership Lessons from Martial Arts with Bogdan Rosu

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Same? Roshu. Roshu. Hi, everyone. So no prep

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needed. So I actually have to ask Bogdan Roshu

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how to pronounce his name. I don't know who he

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is, but he gave me a link. So the link is up

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right now for the chat for his book. And we have

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to say that you are Mr. Roshu, brave, right?

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Bold. And you have to be brilliant because that's

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the only three characteristics I see that will

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come on the show. Otherwise I get, oh, I have

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to speak or, oh, I have to know what I smell.

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That's kind of hard. Isn't that weird that most

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people really actually don't know or can't put

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together an elevator pitch. But anyways, I'm

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so excited that you're here. Welcome, welcome

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to No Prep Needed. You did zero prep, right?

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You just filled out one calendar. Yes, I did

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my homework by not doing any homework. So we're

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good. I love it. So introduce yourself. Beautiful.

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Hi, my name is book done. I help leaders gain

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the edge to become the to join the 0 .01 % in

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their field. And I do it by combining the top

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leadership secrets with ancient martial arts

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principles. Before doing this, I actually created

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the first ever personal development for martial

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arts program in the world, helped a few thousand

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people become a lot more confident, a lot more

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successful. And yeah, I have a bunch of stories

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in that sense, if it makes sense to share them.

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But I'm actually excited about this format where

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we're just going with the flow. It's kind of

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like a sparring session, a fun, fun sparring

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session. So. Wow. OK, so so where are you located,

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first of all? I'm in Romania. Actually, one hour

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away from Dracula's Castle. Fun fact. One hour

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away from where? Dracula's Castle. Oh, can I

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just say that Romanian women are absolutely gorgeous.

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Are they? Oh, you don't say, Adrienne. Because

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I'm right, you mean? Because they are just really

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pretty women. They are really beautiful. I mean,

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every single one. Okay, so I love this. So what

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made you think of combining the two? That's amazing

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Yeah, it kind of started with My first ever business

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mentor because you know, I studied abroad I went

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to to Crete for college to study hotel management

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Absolutely hated it. Like I didn't like what

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I saw when when I met the actual hotel managers

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Like it was so stressful like okay, this this

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is not for me And I lived for two years in Rome.

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That was my first attempt to open a martial arts

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school because I was always passionate about

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martial arts. In college, I fell in love with

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personal development. First ever personal development

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book I read was The Magic of Thinking Big. Still

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my favorite to this day. And when I opened my

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martial arts school in Bucharest in Romania,

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I was still struggling. I had like four or five

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students. So I finally hired a business coach

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and when I told him what I was doing in the school

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He had the brilliance to point out something

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that would literally change my life He said look

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you don't have a martial arts program or a martial

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arts school you have a personal development through

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martial arts program very different and That's

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when it hit me like, oh my God, that's so cool.

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And it really allowed me to stand out in the

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market because nobody could compete with that.

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I was a category of one all of a sudden. And

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I realized that that's a really, really great

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way in business in general to stand out in a

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super crowded market. If you combine a few different

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elements, a few different passions, then you

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can... create something really, really, really

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unique. Like, for example, one of my clients

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is a financial coach, right? Millions of financial

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planners and coaches and stuff like that. And

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they're like, look, you're a devout Christian.

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Why don't you make something for, and you love

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working with professional women, why don't you

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make something for professional Christian women

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who want to be more financially savvy, right?

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And she was like, boom, she had like the same

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moment I had, right? Because she could combine

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two apparently different topics that literally

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fit together perfectly. And it's the same with,

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later I realized that what I was doing wasn't

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actually, personal development is a broad term,

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but it was actually leadership. That's what I

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was teaching, right? So now it's coming together

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in a new book, right? It's called Greatness and

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Mastery. 10, but it's probably I'm probably going

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to change the subtitle. I'm still I'm halfway

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in writing the book, but it's probably going

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to be like one hundred and one martial arts plus

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leadership principles to gain the edge to become

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a top leader. So, yeah, I love it. Oh, can I

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be selfish? Can I I teach corporate etiquette?

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So what what? Where can you find the line between

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professionalism and corporate etiquette? and

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martial arts. Help me out a bit. When you say

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corporate etiquette, just so I don't give out

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something random, right? What does that mean

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specifically for a non -English speaker? Oh,

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no problem. It's really like the behavior that

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you would use in different settings, but for

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professionalism, it's how you're acting and doing

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the right thing and behavior that makes everyone

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comfortable. So for instance, time. Time Yeah,

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we'll do like a lot of time. So being on time

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is important for corporate etiquette, but doesn't

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that is that the same for martial arts? interesting

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so um It comes down to one of the principles,

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but what's coming up for me right now is that

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like in Japan for example There's something very

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very interesting in the corporate world, right?

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So you have the normal Japanese language, but

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then you have a dialect specific for the corporate

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slash business world, where you're like a lot

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more respectful than usual. So like if you say

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I'm sorry in normal Japanese, it has, you know,

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it has one version. But then the corporate version

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of that is totally different. Right. But to kind

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of answer the question, what I would say is what

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massively helps is this idea that I also talk

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about in the book. of listening with your whole

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body and being in the now, being in the moment,

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right? The martial art that I taught is Wing

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Chun. Wing Chun is the first martial art that

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Bruce Lee actually studied in Hong Kong when

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he was living there. So all of this speed, the

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lightning fast speed came from Wing Chun. The

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one inch punch, maybe your audience is familiar

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with it. He learned it from Wing Chun. But Wing

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Chun also teaches you something really, really

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cool. It's like when you create the bridge, right?

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Let's say I put my left hand on your right forearm.

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I just need to create this point of contact,

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and I can feel immediately what you intend to

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do with your other arm or with your legs. So

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in that way, I can do the right thing at the

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right time and block, parry, or attack if I need

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to. So how does this translate into the corporate

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world? You first need to create a bridge, right?

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Let's say you are learning etiquette in a totally

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new culture like Japan. First, you need to create

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the bridge. Get curious about that culture, right?

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And then you listen with your whole body. Most

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people don't even know how to listen with their

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ears, right? Whole body listening is I'm looking

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for micro gestures. And for example, right now,

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if I were to look at you, I would be very, very

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careful at how you're using your eyes, how you're

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using your whole body when you're getting curious.

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All of these small emotions are telling me exactly

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everything that's happening in your subconscious

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mind. Because if I want to know what's happening

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in your conscious mind, I listen to what you're

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saying. But if I want to know what's happening

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in your subconscious mind, I look at what you're

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doing in the now, in the moment. So when you're

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sparring, You have to be in the now. You learn

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to be in the now. You learn to kind of dance

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with the person you're talking to. This applies

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if you're speaking to a group. It helps you read

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the room. So when you lost the room. You can

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crack a joke or kind of like say, hey, acknowledge

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the elephant in the room and then you have the

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audience on your side, right? Or if you're just

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doing it with a single member of your team, it's

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exceptionally important to understand when you've

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broken etiquette. Like, for example, right now,

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you said corporate etiquette. I'm like, OK, I

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don't exactly know what that is. Can you clarify?

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Let's be on the same side of it. So that's a

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short example of how you would use martial arts

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principles to really be an exceptional leader.

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I love that. Oh, would you mind helping us with

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focus? I feel like it would be similar, but maybe

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not exactly. Yes. And here's something really

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cool, still from martial arts, right? Now, if

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you want, you can play with me when we're doing

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this, right? If you just put your hand out, right?

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And now just like, yeah, just one of the hands.

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And now just like punch it, but. Not too much,

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but just focus on the hand, right? Yeah. And

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you're going to see, like, let's say, give it,

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how much force would you say you have, like,

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maybe from one to 10? You're muted, by the way.

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I'm muted. I'm muted, silly me. Maybe, like,

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I don't know. I said four, but then I'm thinking

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maybe, like, a three. Yeah. Exactly. So three

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or four, right? So now same idea. Don't change

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anything, but just focus behind the poem, right?

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And do the same thing. What do you notice? What

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do I notice? Hold on. What's the force, right?

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Just when you focus behind the target, you're

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going to notice that you're using a bit more

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force, that you have more power. Right. So what

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was what was from one to ten the second time

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around? Yeah, you're right. It would have been

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about six Yes, right. So we changed nothing except

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for your focus. Oh But you showed up differently

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Why? Because you were focusing not on the target

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but behind the target Do you see what I'm growing

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with this? Yes, I do. I love that Oh, and then

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you go deep into this in the book, your new book

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that the by the way, the link. Yes. Yes. So one

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of the big challenges like, OK, we want to go

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to 10 million dollars. OK, sure. But what's going

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to happen when you're there? Right. What's going

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to be next? So it's very wise to say, OK, we're

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going to get to 10 million. But what am I going

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to do after that? Oh, you know what? I really

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wanted to start this philanthropy project. Well,

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you know what? I really wanted to sell. I just

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want to sell the company and then just do this

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other project. Just having that in the back of

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your mind. Right. That added element of what's

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next will actually energize you a lot more than

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the singular 10 million dollar goal. Wow. OK,

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so. So how are you working with people? Are you

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working in your studio? Are you working one -on

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-one over Zoom? Like what does that look like?

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Over Zoom. Over Zoom, one -on -one, and in a

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group setting, yes. Are you finding the clients

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are like, oh, I love martial arts, and I love

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the combining? Or are you introducing martial

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arts to new clients? No. One of my clients actually

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did suggest he trained martial arts. Of course,

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you don't need to train martial arts you can

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Like the start of the book the first three chapters

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are the mind the body and the soul Right. So

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the book is basically split in two, right? There's

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the yin section and the yang section. Yin is

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the internal shift, right? And then the young

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section is the actual leadership strategies,

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like hiring, attracting A -level talent, how

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to train them, how to motivate them, how to create

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the right systems and stuff like that. That's

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the strategy. But in order to effectively use

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the strategy, we need to be the type of leader

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that can use the strategies. So that's why I

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started with the inner shift. So the in part,

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the inner shifts, or the mind, the body, and

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the soul. So in the body section, I do recommend

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working out. making the body stronger, because

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the body is very, very closely connected with

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the subconscious mind. Some say it is the subconscious

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mind, right? So the more you make your body stronger,

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the more you make your mind stronger, the higher

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the connection with your soul, right? So if you

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want to train martial arts, sure, highly recommended.

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If you want to just work out, sure, highly recommend.

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If you just want to go on a walk with your dog,

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highly recommended, right? you're moving your

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body, you just tap into a lot more energy, and

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that's the currency of leadership, energy, right?

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How well can you transmit energy? How well do

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you manage your energy? How well do you delegate

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the energy suckers from your life, right? So

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to shorten the answer, you don't need to train

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martial arts, right? That's not what I necessarily

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teach the people I work with. What I play with

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is their mind, their heart. right? And I help

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them tap into the higher power of their soul,

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their higher mind. And then we talk strategy.

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Because if I give you like, um, I'll give you

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an example, like one, another one of my clients,

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he had two float spot locations. Before we worked

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together, he had the opportunity to hire somebody

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who would have been an ex. exceptional, exceptional

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manager for the locations. Probably would have

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grown the businesses massively. He said no to

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the guy. And the only reason why he said no was

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because he felt insecure. He felt like he wasn't

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good enough as a leader to be able to lead this

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person. Right. So unless you first shift into

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a more confident leader, more loving leader,

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self -loving leader, you're not going to know

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what to do with these high performers. You're

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going to feel intimidated, right? So that's why

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it's the yin, the inner shift, and then we talk

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strategy. Interesting. You had to answer my question.

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My next question was going to be about empathy.

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But I think that you really kind of just answered

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that. How do you, or at least you want to expand

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on it. Let's yeah, let's touch upon empathy because

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here's what's coming up for me, right? Empathy

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is useful, but your job as a leader is to kind

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of go a step further If you're feeling really

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demotivated if you're feeling really stressed

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I May empathize with you and now we're just two

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people who are stressed, right? That's not your

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job Your job is to Yes, empathize, see that person

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at a soul level, but then to go a level deeper

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and remind them who they are. Who they really

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are. Right. And pull forth their greatness. One

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of my biggest clients, he was doing 120 million

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a year and he was afraid to grow the business.

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And somebody asked me, like, how is that possible?

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Like this guy obviously has a lot of experience.

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How why would he be afraid to grow the business?

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Well. He got a bit comfortable, right? And he

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started believing that he would make a mistake

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that would cost him a fortune and eventually

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lead to losing everything. But I was like, look,

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when you started the business, you had a lot

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of chance. You had a lot of people doubting you.

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You were the young kid on the block with these

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old people, right? They were not taking you seriously.

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This is who you are. This is who you've always

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been. you would never shed away from challenge,

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right? And I actually asked him, like that was

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the start of a conversation. To challenge him,

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I said, would you feel comfortable dying and

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knowing you could have done so much more than

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you had everything you needed to do so much more?

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And that's like, no, that's why I'm here, right?

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So your job is not just to kind of be on the

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same frequency with the person that you are leading,

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applies to clients, applies to your team, but

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to raise their frequency. And that's how you

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bring out the best in your people. Wow. So you're

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for a select group of people. I almost see the

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type A personalities. Of course, that's maybe

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in the United States, those that are driven and

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wouldn't want to really deal with this. They

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just want to get going. They know it all anyways.

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They don't really need this. boom, but then for

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the one that wants to go deeper. I love this.

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What's the biggest challenge that you have in

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actually securing new clients? I'm curious about

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that because I love that you're like a one, you

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know, not many people are doing, or I don't know

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now combining martial arts and leadership, what

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that looks like today, but I can imagine it's

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as cool as it sounds, it may not be an easy sell.

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But maybe I'm wrong. So let me know. I'm curious

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how getting new clients, what that looks like

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for you. Yeah, there's definitely a huge wall

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in terms of, OK, what the hell do you want? Why

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are you, you know, messaging me right now? And

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you're right. You know, the the people, my people,

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they are they're very much a type personality.

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Right. So you have to crack open that ego. Right.

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Like, for example, the spa client that was. mentioning

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like the first time we talked it's like oh I

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want to build this of amazing new city and like

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and I'm like yeah so are you doing it well no

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because like okay so you're not doing it well

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because like look cut cut the crap you know let's

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let's get real what's what's going on right so

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yeah like finding that crack in their defense

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is you know kind of takes a bit of tact and kind

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of sometimes shooting in the dark But once you

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crack them open, then it's game on. But it takes

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a while. Where did you refine your leadership

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coaching skills? Life. So life and then through

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martial arts and putting it together. So what's

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the biggest challenge? I mean, taking somebody

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from zero martial arts skill to a high level

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martial arts skill, that's going to teach you

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more about leadership than... anything else in

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life, you know. Adults you're talking about,

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because when I think of martial arts, I think

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of someone that has started martial arts maybe

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at a younger age and has, you know, continuous,

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but are there a lot of in the martial arts training

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significantly? Most of my clients were, actually,

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all of my clients were adults. I only had one

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kid's class once. And the parents came to sign

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up their kids at the seminar. And I just signed

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up everyone, the kids and the parents. Right.

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So it was like, I never just taught kids like

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guys like, look, you want your kid to be fast

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and strong. They're looking up at you. Right.

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Because the only reason why I never had a aside

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from that, a kid's class was like, look, I'm

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doing all this work to elevate the kids. but

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then they're going back home with their parents

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and all my work is on that, right? So like, no,

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you guys are going to be coming together to class,

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right? So yeah, like most of the people I work

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with were and still are adults. Yeah. I love

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that you pivoted that. So like that is brilliant.

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So what is the number one challenge most of your

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clients are having right now? 100 % they're the

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bottlenecks of their business. They're still

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operating from an identity of being a glorified

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employee instead of stepping back and being more

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of the observer, right? And that's affecting

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the performance of their sales teams, that's

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affecting the performance of the team overall.

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They haven't yet... realize what it takes to

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think, feel, and act like an owner, even if they're

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a CEO, even if they're middle management, right?

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Your job is to regularly sit back, look at the

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whole mechanism as a whole, and think to yourself,

00:22:03.619 --> 00:22:05.940
hey, if I just tweak this, what is that going

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to mean in terms of performance and revenue and

00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:12.200
team satisfaction and fulfillment, right? That's

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one thing. So they're the ones basically holding

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the whole team and business back by not creating

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the right systems, by not getting out of the

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way, basically. My dad did that with his business.

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He was kind of too involved, and we had the same

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conversation we're having right now I have with

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him. And I finally clicked with him. He hired

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somebody to Delegate like the energy drainers

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and stepped away from the business and then funny

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enough when he was away on vacation The business

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was making more money than when he was there,

00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:56.480
right? So yeah, and that comes from you know

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It comes from leading it sounds harsh but leading

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from the ego Instead of leading from your heart,

00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.900
right? To give you another example, I was talking

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to an agency owner, right? He was still the one

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doing the selling, even though he had like 10

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people in the team. He was still doing a lot

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of the work. And I said, look, if you're still

00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:30.799
the master in your business, you're in trouble.

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Your job is now to be a master maker. So continue,

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sorry. Yeah, so that generally leads to stress,

00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:49.880
overwhelm, burnout, and of course, it trickles

00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:53.140
down to everyone else, right? So it's very useful

00:23:53.140 --> 00:23:55.180
to have somebody on the outside. Oh, and the

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huge one is also having too many yes people around

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them, right? They're high performing. Yes. Nobody's

00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:04.900
telling them the truth. I love that. I love that.

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Someone I know, you know who you are if you're

00:24:07.569 --> 00:24:11.950
watching. I used to say that and I was never

00:24:11.950 --> 00:24:14.549
trained. I would say, you have all these yes

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people around you. And one day I was watching,

00:24:19.769 --> 00:24:23.150
I wanna say it was World War Z with Brad Pitt.

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And at one point, Brad Pitt gets into a car with

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a man, and they're having a conversation. He

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says, I'm the 10th man. And I'm like, the 10th

00:24:32.460 --> 00:24:34.940
man? What is a 10th man? And he explained, the

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10th man is a person that will think differently

00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.759
than everyone else. And I wrote to this person,

00:24:41.019 --> 00:24:44.589
the yes man, and said, I am the 10th man. I am

00:24:44.589 --> 00:24:48.430
not negative. I'm not, I just want to, I think

00:24:48.430 --> 00:24:50.630
differently so I can see if I can pull something

00:24:50.630 --> 00:24:53.130
else because everyone around you is yes. And

00:24:53.130 --> 00:24:57.750
I love that. No, I love that. That's just, that's

00:24:57.750 --> 00:25:01.009
glorious because that is where most people really

00:25:01.009 --> 00:25:04.990
want to have those yeses around them. Okay. That

00:25:04.990 --> 00:25:08.829
just made my day. Did you want to expand on that?

00:25:09.420 --> 00:25:12.220
No, I 100 % agree. There's nothing that's gonna

00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:16.940
hold you. Like I was listening to T -Pain, the

00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:20.839
musician, and he was talking about how everybody,

00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.680
like how he basically was the number one rapper,

00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:30.019
right? And then he literally went broke, right?

00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:32.700
And the only reason why was because everybody

00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:35.059
was just saying, hey, once you make it, then

00:25:35.059 --> 00:25:38.079
it's all like money's just gonna keep coming

00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.380
in right there's nobody there to tell them the

00:25:40.380 --> 00:25:43.319
truth like dude invest in some real estate you

00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:48.259
know stop spending money like you know throwing

00:25:48.259 --> 00:25:52.480
money out the window there's nothing that will

00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.880
kill your performance and your success faster

00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.920
than just having people telling you what you

00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:02.859
want to hear oh i love that Sorry, I just love

00:26:02.859 --> 00:26:06.559
that because I just feel like I just knew instinctively.

00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.960
Okay, I want you now, we only have a few minutes

00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.259
left, I would like for you to sell us on your

00:26:12.259 --> 00:26:21.640
book. Well, I think I already have. A little

00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:23.819
bit more. Okay, so you have this book, who's

00:26:23.819 --> 00:26:27.359
the book for? What am I going to get out of it?

00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:29.279
Let's just do it all over again because I really

00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.109
want to see and understand how I can help you

00:26:33.109 --> 00:26:35.329
to promote the book. So I'd say I'm gonna help

00:26:35.329 --> 00:26:36.849
you promote the book, but tell me a little bit

00:26:36.849 --> 00:26:40.849
more so I have, what does that look like? So

00:26:40.849 --> 00:26:44.789
for my people, the people who will get the most

00:26:44.789 --> 00:26:47.890
out of this book, you know that there's so much

00:26:47.890 --> 00:26:52.069
more you can give to this world, but you're not

00:26:52.069 --> 00:26:55.549
using all of it, right? Maybe you have a bit

00:26:55.549 --> 00:26:57.789
of fear, maybe you have a bit of self doubt,

00:26:57.829 --> 00:27:00.839
maybe you have a bit of imposter syndrome. But

00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:02.079
you know that there's something inside of you

00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.880
that you're not tapping into yet. You've achieved

00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.039
a lot, right? Everybody's looking up at you,

00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:13.000
but there's something more, right? And I know

00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:18.119
what you're afraid of the most. The one thing

00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.599
that terrifies you, and it's your own power,

00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.140
your own greatness, and your own mastery. And

00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:26.359
I'm here to tell you that it's safe to pull it

00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.160
out because your greatness is made out of love.

00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.940
And there's nothing that will empower the people

00:27:30.940 --> 00:27:34.079
around you than being your full self. My book

00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.799
will help you do that. It will help you make

00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.200
the difference you know you're meant to make

00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:44.440
in this world. Okay, I have goosebumps. That

00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.819
was really good. Thank you. I'm glad I asked

00:27:46.819 --> 00:27:49.599
you that question because it was you really cut

00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.819
to the core. Wow. Okay. Are you on, you said,

00:27:53.859 --> 00:27:56.579
mentioned LinkedIn. So I see that you're on LinkedIn,

00:27:56.740 --> 00:27:59.000
but, but where else, where else can people find

00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.440
you? Are you offering some videos? Are you on

00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.299
YouTube? Yeah, I think, uh, it might be interesting

00:28:04.299 --> 00:28:06.779
for your audience to check out my, uh, my podcast

00:28:06.779 --> 00:28:08.660
is called stories from your future self. It's

00:28:08.660 --> 00:28:10.839
different than most podcasts because I literally

00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.819
coach my guests who are also high performing

00:28:13.819 --> 00:28:18.420
leaders. I coach them when we create breakthroughs

00:28:18.420 --> 00:28:20.660
and their marketing and their strategy, but more

00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:23.579
importantly, breakthroughs that lead to higher

00:28:23.579 --> 00:28:26.980
revenue. And my guests come in, you know, feeling

00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:30.160
neutral, and they all leave with a huge smile

00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:36.420
on on their faces. So I would say. Sorry, I don't

00:28:36.420 --> 00:28:37.720
want you to think I'm not paying attention, but

00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:43.059
I wanted to put that in the chat. Oh, that is

00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:47.680
awesome. Let me see. Let me see. Oh. I love this.

00:28:47.819 --> 00:28:50.039
What if your next big breakthrough is one conversation

00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:55.859
away? Oh, this is lovely. You guys, everyone

00:28:55.859 --> 00:28:59.680
go on. Oh, this is cool. Very nice. Keep doing

00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.619
it. Keep doing it. You keep going. And then and

00:29:02.619 --> 00:29:05.619
then tell me else. Tell me more so I can I can

00:29:05.619 --> 00:29:09.720
share. I would say, yeah, LinkedIn, the book

00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:15.920
or the main ways of of being. gauging these days.

00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.119
Oh yeah, I'm doing a really cool winners week

00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:22.119
intensive. Once you get the book, you can get

00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.059
more info about the winners week intensive, right?

00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.140
We kind of awaken that winner inside of you in

00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:29.220
a week and, you know, solve your most pressing

00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:35.039
issues. Your top two most pressing issues together.

00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:38.150
That's a lot of fun. And if you guys want to

00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:40.990
also look at the video because you get a lot

00:29:40.990 --> 00:29:43.190
when when you watch the podcast and also see

00:29:43.190 --> 00:29:45.910
people's reactions and how they're shifting from

00:29:45.910 --> 00:29:48.809
one space to another. Oh, this is this is my

00:29:48.809 --> 00:29:53.289
old channel. Oh, it is college. Let me give you

00:29:53.289 --> 00:29:57.470
actually let me give you the Spotify link for

00:29:57.470 --> 00:30:02.390
my my podcast if people want to check out the

00:30:02.390 --> 00:30:07.410
the videos from your future self. Yes. And yeah,

00:30:07.490 --> 00:30:08.890
by all means, if you want to check out my Wing

00:30:08.890 --> 00:30:11.910
Chun videos from back in the day, this is definitely

00:30:11.910 --> 00:30:14.970
a great place to do that. I love this looking.

00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:20.029
It's so interesting. OK, so Spotify. OK, so you

00:30:20.029 --> 00:30:23.269
are bearing me for a second. Let me go in and

00:30:23.269 --> 00:30:27.730
let me stop the screen. Let me present. It's

00:30:27.730 --> 00:30:30.710
fun that I can present. OK, and then I have your.

00:30:31.820 --> 00:30:36.339
podcast right here. So this is Spotify. Yeah.

00:30:37.019 --> 00:30:40.460
Oh, you have more. Okay. So so did you Okay,

00:30:40.819 --> 00:30:44.119
so very interesting. And you mentioned video,

00:30:44.140 --> 00:30:46.940
but I love this. All right, everyone, I just

00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:49.000
wanted to give everyone an opportunity to see

00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.279
how they can work with you. Because I think it's

00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.539
really cool. I love that. So just saying out

00:30:54.539 --> 00:30:57.750
now, this will be turned into a podcast. and

00:30:57.750 --> 00:30:59.990
it'll be airing in about, I wanna say three to

00:30:59.990 --> 00:31:02.529
four weeks. So I will definitely tag you and

00:31:02.529 --> 00:31:05.470
let you know. Is there anything else that I didn't

00:31:05.470 --> 00:31:20.410
tell you that you wish I asked you? Yeah, I think,

00:31:20.670 --> 00:31:24.980
you know, At the end of the day, my work is all

00:31:24.980 --> 00:31:29.940
about confidence and self -love. I mean, all

00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:33.920
of the business issues, sales, revenue, stress,

00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:38.579
overwhelm, burnout, they all come from not understanding

00:31:38.579 --> 00:31:42.259
why it's worth to be a confident leader, to believe

00:31:42.259 --> 00:31:45.099
in yourself, and to love yourself just the way

00:31:45.099 --> 00:31:47.140
you are. That will allow you to do the same for

00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:50.890
other people. Yeah, I love that. I also could

00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:54.569
tell that like someone myself that's all all

00:31:54.569 --> 00:31:57.569
over the place. You bring you like you could

00:31:57.569 --> 00:32:00.190
bring people down. You can kind of calm them

00:32:00.190 --> 00:32:03.869
down enough so that my ears and eyes will open

00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:05.569
and I think that's really an important trait

00:32:05.569 --> 00:32:10.470
to have. Yes, I get that a lot and it really

00:32:10.470 --> 00:32:17.269
comes from learning how to use. Pauses. With

00:32:17.269 --> 00:32:21.400
intentionality. All right, let me give your audience

00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:27.039
a quick hack before we wrap up, right? And this

00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.460
is like literally my favorite one. Whenever I

00:32:30.460 --> 00:32:34.940
do like an in -person seminar or something like

00:32:34.940 --> 00:32:38.319
a speech or whatever, I learned this from a speaking

00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.319
book and it's exceptional. Everybody like when

00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.039
they start their speech is like, oh, I'm so happy

00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.539
to be here. This is so great. Thanks for having

00:32:45.539 --> 00:32:51.599
me. Imagine just walking up the stage and then

00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:56.539
just saying nothing and being like, like this,

00:32:57.220 --> 00:33:01.359
like this. And then when you can hear a pin drop,

00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:08.400
then you start your speech. It is so powerful.

00:33:11.009 --> 00:33:15.390
I love that. When I get on stage too, I do that,

00:33:15.390 --> 00:33:17.470
but only because I want to take that moment to

00:33:17.470 --> 00:33:21.569
absorb being on the stage. And if I don't take

00:33:21.569 --> 00:33:25.269
that second to look around the room and really

00:33:25.269 --> 00:33:27.450
see everyone, then I've missed that opportunity.

00:33:27.509 --> 00:33:30.349
So I agree with you. I like to do that. Sometimes

00:33:30.349 --> 00:33:33.349
I'll point out to someone that I'm looking at

00:33:33.349 --> 00:33:35.859
them. only because I have a little more comic,

00:33:35.859 --> 00:33:38.420
you know, kind of style, but I do love that.

00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:40.440
That's great advice, everyone. Don't pull up

00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:42.940
and be like, hi, I'm Adrienne Barker and blah,

00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.960
blah, blah. No, you are right. Because everyone's

00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.039
like, we're going to say something. What are

00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:52.500
you going to say? I love that. Love. Yeah. Yeah.

00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.960
And by the way, I absolutely love your style,

00:33:55.299 --> 00:33:59.440
your energy. It's like, it's so fun. I've had

00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.329
so much fun in this. Don't stop. Don't keep going,

00:34:03.509 --> 00:34:07.410
please. Thank you so much. I love your style.

00:34:07.569 --> 00:34:09.650
You know, what's funny is that opposites. So

00:34:09.650 --> 00:34:11.510
like, I love that you're like, sometimes I'm

00:34:11.510 --> 00:34:16.449
like, why can't I be that calm person? But I

00:34:16.449 --> 00:34:20.460
just I don't know. And then I so I have I'm co

00:34:20.460 --> 00:34:23.679
-host with Joseph, the amazing Joseph. We do

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.980
True Crime, Debate the News True Crime on Chatter

00:34:26.980 --> 00:34:29.019
Social, and then it gets turned into a podcast.

00:34:29.619 --> 00:34:33.159
And I find even that, as I start to get so excited,

00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.420
I talk faster, and I can't seem to get myself

00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:40.960
to calm down. Or I always say, zap other people's

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.380
energy, because even if I'm not even feeling

00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:46.349
well or I'm really exhausted, Just doing something

00:34:46.349 --> 00:34:48.630
like this, I feel like I used to call myself

00:34:48.630 --> 00:34:50.630
an energy sucker, but I don't think I'm the same

00:34:50.630 --> 00:34:53.070
one as you had mentioned. I don't think I drink

00:34:53.070 --> 00:34:56.630
energy. I just I don't know. I don't know. Look,

00:34:56.849 --> 00:34:59.389
here's here's my personal feeling. Right. I don't

00:34:59.389 --> 00:35:01.230
think you're you're an energy sucker because

00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:04.070
like a lot of people don't know when to shut

00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:07.619
up. Right. But you're you're creating. a really,

00:35:07.619 --> 00:35:09.960
really nice and really comfortable space. Like

00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.780
when you are talking, it's so fun to watch, it's

00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:15.500
so engaging, right? But then you pause and then

00:35:15.500 --> 00:35:21.300
you really allow your guests, myself, to expand

00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:25.900
and flourish. I wouldn't change a thing about

00:35:25.900 --> 00:35:29.579
your style, honestly, really. Thank you. Does

00:35:29.579 --> 00:35:32.579
that artwork behind you mean something? Is there,

00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:36.219
because it's a beautiful piece. Yeah, I got this

00:35:36.219 --> 00:35:39.280
as, it says, you know, for the listener, it says

00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.239
be like H2O, right? I got this back when I was

00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:47.480
teaching martial arts from a guy who was like

00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.159
a really, really successful painter. He just

00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:53.900
came to the school once and like three or four

00:35:53.900 --> 00:35:56.300
months later, he just sent me this painting.

00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:58.659
I was like, dude, are you crazy? He's like, what

00:35:58.659 --> 00:36:00.829
are you doing? He's like, no, no, no. this is

00:36:00.829 --> 00:36:03.489
for you right and literally means like from Bruce

00:36:03.489 --> 00:36:07.309
Lee's quote be like water right so this kind

00:36:07.309 --> 00:36:11.309
of like symbolizes water and uh and the flow

00:36:11.309 --> 00:36:14.929
so I've had it since gosh I feel like I see a

00:36:14.929 --> 00:36:19.809
phase two in it it's really cool oh wow wow that's

00:36:19.809 --> 00:36:21.989
really nice and you pick that to be your piece

00:36:21.989 --> 00:36:26.280
behind you I love that Artwork is just, it really,

00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:28.059
wow. Okay. Thank you for sharing that with me.

00:36:28.139 --> 00:36:30.199
I love that. I like your backdrop. It's nice.

00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:32.420
It's comfortable. It's, you know, it's simple

00:36:32.420 --> 00:36:39.059
and it's not taking away from you. And so I guess,

00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.880
so distractions because a lot of leaders get

00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.679
distracted quickly. I used to have the Bogdan

00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.940
Roshu coaching consulting stuff banner behind

00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:52.460
like black and I'm happy I replaced it with.

00:36:52.750 --> 00:36:56.489
with this one, it's much more comforting, just

00:36:56.489 --> 00:36:58.809
like you said. That's just your style. Thank

00:36:58.809 --> 00:37:00.809
you so much for being my guest. I look forward

00:37:00.809 --> 00:37:03.210
to this. I look forward to just now I'm going

00:37:03.210 --> 00:37:05.530
to be your stalker. I'm going to follow you.

00:37:05.570 --> 00:37:09.210
I'm going to repost. I'm going to enjoy reading.

00:37:09.610 --> 00:37:12.829
No, no, no, Adrienne, please don't. Please, please

00:37:12.829 --> 00:37:17.570
don't. Oh my God, I love you. Oh, I guess I have

00:37:17.570 --> 00:37:19.710
to go to Romania. But I mean, really, the woman

00:37:19.710 --> 00:37:21.530
there, I would just not have a problem going

00:37:21.530 --> 00:37:26.389
there. The food, yummy. Yeah, I'll save some.

00:37:26.530 --> 00:37:29.530
I'll save some garlic for you for the nights

00:37:29.530 --> 00:37:32.769
when when the vampires come up. I love that.

00:37:32.789 --> 00:37:35.230
Not to be a weirdo, but I've loved every vampire

00:37:35.230 --> 00:37:38.250
movie. I just have a fascination anyways. So,

00:37:38.289 --> 00:37:41.030
but thank you so much for your time today. I

00:37:41.030 --> 00:37:43.269
really appreciate it. Thank you for watching.

00:37:43.409 --> 00:37:45.590
If you were watching or listening, I really appreciate

00:37:45.590 --> 00:37:48.090
the listeners are really great. So I appreciate

00:37:48.090 --> 00:37:51.869
all the nice comments you said, Mr. Rose. Oh,

00:37:51.869 --> 00:37:54.210
you're amazing. Okay. Thank you. Have a great

00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:58.849
rest of the day. Thank you. Bye bye. So good.

00:37:59.389 --> 00:38:01.050
So, so, so, so, so, so.