Episode #294: JK from the “Against The Fence” MMA Channel

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Hello again, blockhead Nation, Welcome
back to the show. And before we

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begin this episode, I want to
begin with a sincere apology, and that's

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because I believe my guest for this
week deserves a sincere apology. If it

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sounds as you listen through this episode, as you get towards the end,

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if it sounds like it is rushed, that is not Jk's fault. There

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was one key factor that I forgot
about when we started putting this interview together

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and we started getting into the discussion
about mixed martial arts. If you don't

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have the pro zoom or you don't
have the full access to the tools,

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you get cut off after thirty minutes. Well, I found that out too

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little, too late. So even
though the interview went fine and I really

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enjoyed speaking with this gentleman, I
just feel like as the host that I

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owe him an apology for not thinking
about every key detail. But that's just

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kind of comes with the world of
podcast. If you're a YouTuber, if

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you're a content creator of any kind, there's always something that is a hiccup

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in the background, and I'm addressing
it first and foremost before we begin this

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show. So this is for you
JK. I apologize for that, but

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I hope you enjoy the edited and
completed episode as much as I enjoyed interviewing

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this gentleman. I had a lot
of fun with him, and the at

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F MMA channel is spot on and
I'll be tuning in for many more years

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to come, and in the future
I hope to have all three of the

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guys on on this or maybe to
join them in their community. Either way,

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it worked out. We have the
episode, it's here, but I

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felt like it was weighing on my
heart and I just wanted to be vulnerable

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and honest with my podcast listeners that
not everything is perfect in according to plan.

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But it worked out nonetheless. So
all that being said, what do

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you say we go ahead and start
the show? Shall we broadcasting? Live?

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Good afternoon block in Nation. Thank
you for stopping by once again.

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You are listening to your favorite blockhead, the only podcast in the podcasting that

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you're missing out if you're not tuning
in, that is absolutely true when it

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comes to the Against the Fence MMA
podcast. Without any further ado, I

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have one of the three amazing gentlemen
joining me today. I've got JK mister

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Jordan Arthur from Against the Fence MMA
the channel, sir, thank you so

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much for being here and welcome to
the blockhead hour. Ah thank you,

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Brian. I'm buzzing to be on
here. And look, there's not a

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better intro than that, my man, that's probably the best intro of ever

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high probably the first as well.
So now I appreciate you having me on

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today. I'm not excited to get
things into every the name of a really

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absolutely, I appreciate you know,
Like I said, that's the truth.

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I'm like I am sincerely saying.
When I go and listen to MMA channels,

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I'm either watching the fights live and
trying to hear the commentary or I'm

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tuning in to ASH and SI and
JK. And you know, you guys

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have made my commentary better and sometimes
have challenged what I'm thinking when I watched

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as a fan. So what I'm
gonna do, even though I'm familiar with

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you guys story Just for the listeners
today who are not familiar with Against the

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Finch, which they will be and
they should be, can you walk us

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through a little bit about the origins
about how you, Ash and SID came

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to be and how the channel really
started taking off. Well, it kind

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of all started from around COVID times, right, which is kind of a

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typical time when things kick off,
right, And to be honest, we

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were playing a lot of Call of
Duty, weren't allowed to go outside and

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that kind of thing, and Ash
sort of decided to dwell into live streaming

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a little bit more and look into
it, and we started live streaming a

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couple of COD games, predominantly war
Zone with the three of us, and

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one day he kind of said to
us, you know, should we just

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do a live stream of us watching
the UFC fights? And I was like,

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well, yeah, that's that sounds
like a good idea, So we

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gave it a go. And then
from that moment on there, because I'm

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a bit of a big fan of
football fan channels over here in k or

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soccer to you guys in the race, um, so I really love their

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their format and the light bulb moment
kind of really hit me after that,

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and I've thought, do you know
what, let's just use their brewprint a

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bit and let's bring some of that
over to the MMA. World, Um,

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because I really love the way that
they interact with fans, the fact

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that post matches whether it would be
a good result or a bad result.

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They're outside the ground that they're talking
to fans, getting their opinions heard and

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or whether there's incoming and sfers,
rumors and things like that. They go

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live and they really interact with the
people in the chats and those kind of

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way. Um, there's and it
kind of just yeah, like I said,

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stemmed from from that really and and
I think that m the MMA space

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needs something like that, you know, because with with MMMA it can be

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quite hit and miss. You know, not every week is going to be

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an exciting card, you know,
on paper. And I think that our

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mission is just to keep people talking
about the sport as much as possible,

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yes, and give people reasons to
kind of really improve their passion for it.

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That's what we're all about. You
know. That's a really good point.

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I hate to pull this to my
own podcast. In the last episode,

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I mentioned how a lot of us
that do MMA channels or talk about

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the sport, you have the main
character, which is the UFC or Bellator

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or one championship or PFL. But
then you've kind of got the problem.

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Solution is they do a good job
at explaining athleticism and playing the killers inside

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the cage, but sometimes their narrative
needs a little help, and that's where

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the guide comes in. I've kind
of said that when it comes to storytelling

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Star Wars, you had Luke Skott
Walker with Yoda, and then you had

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mister Miyagi with Daniel and the Karate
Kid, and then that carries forward the

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plan to action and or the call
to action, and then that's what we

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do. So having against the Fence
and things like your favorite blockhead where I

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talk about MMA as well, we
kind of help the narrative along on why

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you should tune into the sport.
So I absolutely agree with you on that

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one. While I have you on
the subject, I've been watching your channels.

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I follow the Instagram feeds quite often, and y'all are every one of

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you, sigh Ash and yourself.
Y'all are great at doing interviews and asking

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relative questions. Is it possible you
could tell me possibly your favorite interviewing experience

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that you ever had for you JK, Because I know I've seen you do

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pay the Batty and many others that
are in the UK, But is there

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a special one that you hold near
and dear to your heart When you did

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post interviews, Well, to be
honest, we've only really just started doing,

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you know, the pre fight interviews
we've done for UFC London this past

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weekend, but we host the the
Q and as the fights a Q and

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a's once in a while whoever we
can get on And I guess my favorite

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one. I really like the one
we did with Chris Curtis because they had

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a really nice game for him with
that and OG if I was here right

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now, you'd obviously say Frankie because
that was a very special one to him.

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And um yeah, I really enjoyed
the one we had with Julio Arsay

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because we managed to catch him off
guard a little bit and make him laugh

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a good laugh with Nafaniel would because
his other half got in our chats and

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was asking him questions, so that
was quite funny. Um yeah, it's

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just kind of keeps on, keeps
one churning out. Really, I would

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say probably those those lists there are
probably one of my faves. I think

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it's hard to pin point one though. Yeah, yeah, I mean recently,

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you guys did have David Grant on
which I thought it was an excellent,

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you know, clip to watch.
But that's why I asked, you

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know. And also SI had mentioned
how he had had a few. I

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think it was Ji Herbert that was
like a little bit quote rude to him

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or whatever. I got a kick
out of that one. But yeah,

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I get but that kind of gives
me, right, that kind of gives

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me the opening to ask you about
even though you're still getting started with pre

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shows and behind the scenes, even
though you've had some good ones, there

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have got have been a few that
have had had been a serious hiccup or

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something that it's like, oh,
I really dropped the ball on this one.

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Do you have like one of a
like one of those ugly stories behind

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the scenes with any of these fighters
or things? Pretty much smooth sailing so

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far, fairly well. I was
there for one actually know, I wasn't

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there for one hookup hiccup, so
I don't know if I'm allowed to speak

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on that behalf a little bit.
I mean we did mess up I think

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during the Matt Semmelsberg or one um. But other than that, I think

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we had a little hookup during Matt
Schnell as well. Um again, it

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just comes down to, yeah,
making sure you're you're as practice as possible.

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But sometimes these things slip, you
know, whether it be just it

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could be anything technical. I don't
want to go into it too too much

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detail to and bore people, but
yeah, i'd probably say it's those those

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three too. But like most things, you know, and we we try

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and remain positive, and we we
have, like I said too earlier off

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there, we have Monday meetings where
we kind of discuss what went wrong with

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things, and we we really try
and you know, iron out the creases

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and get better every single week and
every single time we do these things.

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Sure, I mean the reason I
asked that simply even from my sake us

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podcasters and us to do any type
of content creation. We're human too,

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and you know we're not always gonna
you know, hit home runs or even

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Grand Slam. Sometimes we'll just be
lucky to be able to bunt. But

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you know that's me using a baseball
reference. Go figure. But I just

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I just figured there might have been
something where you guys have to kind of

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polish it up and keep going.
But because I think you guys do a

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fantastic job everything I see all the
highlight reels, but you've always got those

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in the back of your mind of
man, we could have done better with

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that, or maybe size kicking himself
for whatever reason, you know, who

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knows. But I really have to
say I mean this. Sorry, Yeah,

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I was just gonna just say there
was there was one particular time which

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wasn't nothing to do with our file. It's just connections issues. We were

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speaking to Damon Jackson and he was
in his car and just started chopping out.

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And then it's really then a challenge
to kind of feel that void of

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emptiness almost. So yeah, it
really puts you on the spot and sometimes

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you pull it off great and other
times you don't. But but yeah,

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we all worked out in the end. Yeah, exactly. That's what Sam

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Albey had to do, and I
had episode two hundred. He had to

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jump in his car and just jump
on right there and we had to just

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make it work, you know.
So there's some insight from my blockhead Nation

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or like thought everything was smooth sailing. It's not always the truth. But

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what I will tell you, I
had a great time being on commentary with

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you guys on your live YouTube yesterday. It is so fun to watch you

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guys not only spend the wheel and
be very entertaining but also engaging with everybody

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that's in the chat. And you
know, you do a great job of

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just giving us a great analysis of
what's going on. So after the high

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from last night, what can you
share with us for the listeners that might

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have missed it about last night's fight? Tom Aspinal is back, Molly McCann.

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Uh, that's that's a painful one. Really. I believe would and

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Andre Feeley should have been fired the
night just like y'all, and you've got

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Beared you who was definitely put on
a heck of her performance. But whatever

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recaps you want to share from last
night's big fight over there in London,

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feel free to walk my listeners through
what you guys discussed and some big highlights

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from that night. Yeah sure,
I mean, like like you just you

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you named most of them all there, but it was there was so many

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and yeah, I'm really intrigued to
see Paul Craig next in the middleweight division

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and see what's what's next for him
really because he did look good. Um,

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you know there were some instances where
moon Is to get him down and

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we were starting to question ourselves a
little bit. Is this going to be

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the moment where Moon is kind of
submix him and really then leaves him in

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a little bit of sticky situation.
But look, he looked phenomenal. We

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got the TCO victory. If I
had to make any matchups yet, he

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did call out bow Nickel, which
was quite surprising actually because no one really

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wants to fight bow Nickel. Maybe
that could get done. But other than

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that, yeah, I think we
did perhaps discuss matchups last night, but

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I can't really remember who. Actually, Jack Manson was probably my favorite the

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ego so by personally would give Bill
Craig versus Jack Manson. With Molly McCann

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very unfortunate. It should have been
a fight that she should have won on

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paper, as I said last night, on paper when you look at the

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previous records, but then when you
look at the styles and where the said

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fighters lack, it was going to
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could get Molly down, and if
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going to be a night end of
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what we saw. So what the
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I think he's going to be quite
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to of course stick around. Yeah, I haven't really got a match up

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for Molly, I say yet.
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I did predict this matchup next for
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guess Charles should Dan. I just
felt that Andre Feely was somebody who'd been

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around the UFC a little bit longer. It's fought some tougher guys. It's

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very awkward style when it comes to
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striking range to him, and I
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and he passed the step with flying
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a little bit dicey because he did
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little bit because Andre Feely's quite well, He's not the best on the ground.

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He comes from that Teamail for Male
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he was going to get the back
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it could have been a night end
of with there. But I felt he

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won rounds one and three and it
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have been fight at the Night.
It was my fight at the night,

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and I'm intrigued to see what's next
for Nathaniel Wood. Are they going to

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do the Lauren Murphy fight? They
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it out earlier. I reckon,
I'd like to see Alex Caseras and yeah,

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what was your thoughts on the Fani
Wood before before we get into Tom

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and Aspinal, I honestly just had
the same thoughts as y'all is that this

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became a chess match, then it
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it kept me intrigued the whole time. We knew we were going to get

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performance in the Night from Aspinall and
friend from bar Jue, those are just

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in my mind, you're gonna get
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was just like, man, I
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in many ways I overlooked it because
I should have done a little more homework

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knowing more about Wooden Feely. But
it's like, man, I was just

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given a total present in any ways, rapping the bowl on it for that

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fight. But mine was just more
of the surprise and intrigue and kind of

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kicking myself going, I should have
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that's what I love about this sport
is you just when you think that the

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best fight's going to be the main
event, or could be the coalmin or

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something something like a pre lamb or
a mid card fight, all of a

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sudden just takes the night and it's
beautiful. So really, my analytics are

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not not to the level of you
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that fight. I mean, look, I say part of what we do

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is we kind of like to do
We like viewers to or fans of the

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sport to hear the analytical side from
from fans, you know, because you

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get a lot of it from from
former fighters and current fighters at the moment,

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but I think for fans to hear
it coming from other fans kind of

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almost spark something a little bit here
where we can kind of bounce off the

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fights a little bit better, you
know, and we can kind of look

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at these comparisons between between fighters.
But I think the the well down the

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line, I think we will get
there where people was thought to perhaps notice

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things a little bit more and get
further into the sport. Really, So

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what I'll do, I mean again, great fights. And the only thing

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I really that really tapped it off
for me is a big cherry on top

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of it was Aspinall when he was
on the mic and when he said I'm

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gonna sit cage side for Gone and
Spivak, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch that

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and when that time comes, I'm
gonna call him out whoever the winter is,

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and then I'm gonna fight John Jones. I mean, man, you

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can't deny that he is number one
rank contender. So JK just looking at

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the sake of our time. I
wanted to go through just a couple of

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things. I would like to go
more in detail, but you know,

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I'm I'm on a pro thing for
Zoom. So what I'll ask you is

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help me talk some people into the
building for the pay per view coming up

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this weekend. We've got the BMF
between Dustin Pourier and Justin Gaiche and we've

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also got Lahovic versus Perea. What
would you say is why people should tune

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into not just these fights, maybe
some other things that are on your mind,

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and we'll go from there. I
mean, boy, Gauge is gonna

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be a firefight without a doubt.
You know someone's gonna get burned that night.

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I literally don't know. I can't
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It's just going to be an all
out war. All I can say

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is, if you've not watched their
first fight, go back and watch their

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first fight. Yes, Dustin Poie
did stop Justin Gaichy, but it was

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Justin Gauchy when he just stepped into
the UFC. So I think this fight

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is going to be even better to
do. Make sure you tune in for

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that. Blahovic versus Alex Pereira,
a lot of question marks really surrounding Alexpereira

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in terms of how he's going to
look at like heavyweight. We saw Blahovic

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beat easier Dasanyam. Yeah it was
close and whatnot, but he kind of

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gave away a bit of a decent
bootprint away. You'd beat Adisanya, but

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I guess it's easier said done in
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don't I'd like to see Ice probably
get the win, but it could very

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well be a decision win for Jan
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I don't have any debate with you
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it'll be exciting, and another one
I'm really excited about and down the road.

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I have to end with something special
for my listeners on here, but

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I'm looking forward to Font versus Sanahagan, just simply that Font would take the

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main event against him when Umar had
to step out for his injury. I'm

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going, man, you've got the
accuracy of Font versus just the very dangerous

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Corey Santagan. That's a heck of
a main event coming up. I know

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you guys will discuss that down the
road, but due to the sake of

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time, I have to make sure
I wrap up on this one. Listeners.

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I have never heard anybody give a
better imitation of Patty to Batty pimplet

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than JK, So I'm going to
give him the floor whatever impression he wants

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to do. He did one about
eating cheeseburgers. He's probably done one about

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being fat and happy. He's probably
done the one about the dog taking the

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dump in the front yard. He's
got other ones that he's done with Eliot

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to Puria. But without any further
ado, I'm handing the mic over to

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JK. Give us your best impression
of pay the batty pimp let go for

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it, sir, I mean you
could. You could ask me a question

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as if you were asking a question
to Patti. If you will, would

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you give that a go. I
don't know if he's gonna how it's gonna

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play off. Let's give me good
So, Patty, how do you feel

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about Elia to Portia or do you
feel like there's somebody else that is gonna

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give you problems in the lightweight division
coming up soon? What are your thoughts?

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There's a lot he's he's unsalitizable at
the end of the day. Well,

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nor one to say to you.
He's I'd probably spot come out a

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lot in second round. Oh my
goodness. Are you hearing the art behind

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that? Friends? And like I
said, that's right. It wasn't the

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spot to steal. He's done one
for the cheeseburgers. He's done one for

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the dog and taking the dunk.
It's been one full And the way that

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you can figure this out and we
can hear more of what these guys have

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is by tuning in too the YouTube
channel. Once again, we're going to

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the blog. All of the links
for Against the Fence MMA are there.

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You've got no excuse. The YouTube
channel is there? And it's very much

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engaging for the fans. They've got
their Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. You

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don't have to go looking for anything. Just go to your favorite blockhead dot

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com slash blog and all the links
for jk Ash and Si and everybody else

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and Against the Fence MMA are there
for you. But as we wrap this

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up, are there any other plugs
or something specific you want to share at

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the blockhead nation before we wrap up? JK. Yeah, all, what

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I'm gonna say is you be hitting
the nail on the head. Come join

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the community that we've put together.
You know, Brian's in it as well,

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and he's watching the fights with his
every single weekend. So make sure

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you tune in to our weekly watch
alongs and let your opinions be head because

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that's what we're all about. I'm
excited. We'll see if some of the

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guys inside of the Being network might
join you. And got a few of

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them that are MMA fans, I'll
try to get some others involved. Either

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way, you guys make it very
relatable and give a lot of clarity to

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the sport. That's why I mean
my content is better because I'll listen to

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you guys. That's the honest truth. So from also, we're here at

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the Blockhead Nation. JK. I
want to know you are welcome back any

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times. He's right, will do
this again, no problem, Not just

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for you, Brian, I'll do
this for you a lot. That's beautiful

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guy. And again that's what you
can expect, guys. That's why I

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was like, I've got to get
JK on because he's just such a spot

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on invitation. But friends, like
I said, you're hearing JK against the

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fence mma, go check out the
links, Go check out the merchandise,

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go join them for the cards that
are coming up, whether it's a pay

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per view or a fighting night,
it is worth your time. You're missing

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out if you're not tuning in.
JK, thank you once again, and

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God bless you for coming on the
Blockhead Hour today. Thank you for having

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me Brod. I've had an absolute
blast and hopefully yeah, we'll see see

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you again. See absolutely And that's
how we roll over here at the at

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the Blockhead Hour. But once again, guys, check out those links,

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say your favorite blockhead dot com slash
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excuse either way. Business is really
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But by the way, I appreciate
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