YouTube’s New Podcast Playbook: What to Do Next

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Wednesday, October
22nd, 2025, and today it's

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Podcast Newsday.
So we're exploring YouTube's new

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podcast playbook.
Why A leading podcast ad agency

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says smaller shows drive better
ad results and EU KS push to

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officially recognize podcasting.
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And now give us about 30 seconds
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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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Morning chat.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
I am your host Mark Ronik and

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currently on stage with me.
My Co hosts we have producer

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Ashley Feller, Sid Meadows, Dr.
Fay, Alex Baelish, Nick Nalback

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and Phil Better.
We'll see who else joins us from

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the cast and crew.
We were expecting Jonathan and

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sometimes I know Jonathan can't
make it last minute.

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We were going to be streaming
live on Chatter as well with his

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help and being that I wasn't
prepared to take it over this

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morning in case Jonathan
couldn't be there.

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We're just going to let Chatter
go today.

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We'll get there at some point.
It's a little messy right now,

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and if I could snap my fingers
and say let's just all move to

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chatter and know that it
wouldn't disrupt the flow of

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this community and this show, I
would absolutely snap my fingers

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and do that.
But my concern is, is that it

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will be a little disruptive.
It'll shake things up enough

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where, yeah, it'll again, it'll
be disruptive.

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So we will wait and see.
Maybe the one way to do this is

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maybe I host a room there once a
week, whether it's the 7:00 AM

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hour or a different hour of the
day, just so that we can all

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start using it together and get
more comfortable.

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Because I love some of the
features that Chatter has and

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there are some that they have
shared with me privately that

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I'm really excited about.
It was a tough go because they

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were lacking some things.
Are they still lacking a few

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things?
The biggest thing that they're

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lacking for me personally, and
it's not necessarily a gripe

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from for everybody, but they
still don't have replays.

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You can't.
Once it's done, it doesn't get

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saved.
And that's a really important

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feature for us because we use
the clubhouse recordings as

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backup in case something goes
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So I can't risk that yet because
we've absolutely had to go to

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that as recently as probably
this past month, if not

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definitely last month.
Ashley is agreeing with me over

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there.
By the way, before we get into

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the news, I want to remind you
tomorrow, Thursday, October

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23rd, is our first.
It's our inaugural evaluation

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episode.
This is where podcasters ask for

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input on their podcasts.
They want a full breakdown from

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us or other podcasters.
In this case, the runner's soul

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had posted this on social media
that they were looking for

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feedback.
Dr. saw that and shared it with

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me and said let's do it.
So here we are tomorrow, the

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cast and crew.
And if anybody listening live

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right now wants to be a part of
this, let me know.

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Reach out to me privately.
You can e-mail me

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markmarc@ironicmedia.com.
Ironic Media spelled with ack,

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or you can DM me on your
favorite podcast platform if you

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want to be a part of it.
I'm happy to bring others in to

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join us on evaluating this
podcast, a new podcast again,

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it's called The Runner's Soul
SOLE, and we're going to

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evaluate everything from the
title of the series to their

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cover art to their series
description, to their most

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recent episode, episode 3.
No, they're no, it's not their

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most recent.
Oh, they've put up a new A.

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New dropped, right?
OK, well we're going to do

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episode 3.
We're going to do episode 3.

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And Sid, I saw you had something
you wanted to add.

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Go for it.
Good morning.

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Good morning, everybody.
I had a question.

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Sure.
Does she does she know we're

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doing this review?
She does not.

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I was going to do it first and
then send her a link to the

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show.
And we can let her know ahead of

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time, too.
As a matter of fact, maybe Dr.

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we should do that.
And if she's interested, she can

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join us live tomorrow.
OK, I'll e-mail her.

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OK, cool.
Sid, was there a concern?

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I'm just curious, are you
concerned if we didn't tell her?

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No, not really.
I think feedback is a gift, and

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I think it's incumbent upon the
people in this community to be

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sure that your feedback is
constructive and not judgmental

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as you're reviewing the show and
just keeping it, you know, high

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level.
This is not an attack on this

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lady or what she's doing.
She's doing some really good

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things.
Personally, I don't know if I

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would want to sit in a room of
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Yeah, that's why I chose to tell
her.

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Yeah, that's why I chose to tell
her afterwards.

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But sure, I can send her a
little something.

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Well, I mean, because your your
natural reaction is to be

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defensive, but your natural,
yeah, your natural reaction is

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to be defensive.
Oh, well, This is why I do this.

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And so anyways, I just think
it's.

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Even the way that.
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Percent, yeah.
And then to have a whole room.

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Yeah.
But you know what?

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I think that she will find that
we are going to handle it in a

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very gentle way.
And because she's doing a lot of

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things right, I think she is.
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And look, I think that anybody
who has listened to this show

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for any period of time, I think,
you know, this is not the kind

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of crew that's an attacking
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Can we be, can we disagree on
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Sure.
Can we be constructive?

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Absolutely.
We're not going to be attacking.

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We just want to help improve
this person's show if we can.

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That's the thing, I am sure that
some of my views tomorrow other

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podcasters will disagree with
and I will disagree with someone

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what someone else says.
So this is just food for thought

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that Sharon, I think that's her
first name, Sharon, Sharon can

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consider and then make up her
own mind.

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But we will back up our
suggestions with, you know, why

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we feel that way or something
like that.

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Agreed.
Agreed.

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And I'm glad, Sid, I'm glad you
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I think that's important to call
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So thank you.
So that's tomorrow, Thursday,

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October 23rd, we will be doing a
full evaluation of a podcast, a

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new podcast, The Runner's Soul
SOLE.

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So go check that out if you want
to go listen to episode 3.

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I was thinking about this this
morning that Sharon may be a

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little surprised this week to
see her download numbers a

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little bit higher than normal
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Interesting.
To see, yeah.

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All right, so I say it's time.
Let's get into the news around

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the world of podcasting.
And as you may know, what I like

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to do is start with a little
podcast data.

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This is as of yesterday, October
21st, the number one podcast on

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Apple overall, the entire
podcast directory, it's the

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daily by the New York Times.
We will get to Spotify's number

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one and also 543 and two in just
a moment because as we always

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say #1 is generally always held
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So we like to dig a little
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First, I want to give you a some
additional stats this morning,

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Buzz Sprout.
This is their average episode

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duration.
If you're trying to figure out

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the ideal episode length, the
list from Buzz Sprout gives you

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a good sense of where most
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This is current as of this
month, 18% of podcast episodes

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are under 10 minutes.
So quick and to the point, 16%

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are between 10 and 20 minutes.
The biggest group, 31%, run

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between 20 and 40 minutes, which
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does that surprise you?
It surprises me, 20 to 40,

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that's a big jump.
I would have preferred they

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broke it down to 20 to 30 or 20
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because I think the majority of
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between 20 and 30.
I could see that as well, 20%

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are in the 40 to 60 minute range
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So if you're trying to figure
out your ideal episode length or

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maybe just want to see where
other podcasters or are landing

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and just see if you are in that
same wheelhouse, go check that

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out.
Or yeah, it's at pod.

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Let's see.
I'm sorry, buzzsprout.com/stats.

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All right, Dr. give us your top
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Spotify's top five.
Spotify's top five OK #5 is a

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new one.
It's Subway Takes with Kareem

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Rama #4 is the Tucker Carlson
show and #3 is the Matt and

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Shane's Secret podcast #2 is the
diary of the CEO of Stephen

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Bartlett and #1 is the Joe Rogan
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That's right once again.
And thank you for that, Dr. And

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we're going to do something
different than her top five from

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another category on Spotify.
She's going to share some

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information about Edison
Research's top 50 US podcasts

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for Quarter 3 of 2025.
South Edison, which is the gold,

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you know, the television has the
Nielsen's and podcasts have the

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Edisons and they, they're kind
of the gold standard when it

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comes to podcasts.
And they have the top 50 podcast

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podcasts for Q3 for 2025.
And of course, it's the normal,

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you know what, mostly what I
just read off Joe Rogan

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experience dominates, while new
entries like the Midas Touch

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podcast and on purpose of Jay
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rankings a little bit.
And findings.

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The findings are based on
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podcast consumers aged.
I think this is interesting aged

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13 and up in English and Spanish
and measuring reach rather than

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downloads.
So some of the key points on

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here is the five remain strong.
You know, Joe Rogan from Jackie,

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the Daily Caller, Daddy and
Smartless lead the charts.

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The new entries that have broken
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Podcast and On Purpose with Jay
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At 14, Midas touches.
At 14 and J.

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The big movers, of course.
And it's kind of logical that

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Charlie Kirk show Will has
jumped 32 spots from 49 to 17

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because of obvious reasons.
The show morbid climbs at 9

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spots.
Pop culture boosts new heights

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with Jason and Travis Kelsey
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Taylor Swift episodes.
We've dedicated a lot of time to

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talking about that Candace is
that Candace?

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What's her name?
OK Candace Rose after maternity

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leave.
Well, now I don't know who that

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is.
I thought it was the the

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political OK, nevermind.
OK sports surge, Pat McAfee show

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as at 26 and the Bill Simmons
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And it gained momentum with the
football season.

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So the methodology of this is
the data gathered continuously

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during Q3 IN20255000 weekly
podcast consumers already said

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this age 13 end up surveyed in
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that respondents report which
podcast they listened to and

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watched.
I think that's important.

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Listened and watched in the past
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Ranking measures reach
percentage of total weekly

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podcast audiences, not downloads
or watch time.

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Now that's confusing to me.
Not watch time, but the other

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thing that I just read was
respondents report.

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I think, I think what this is
Dr. is they're saying that

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respondents report which podcast
they listen to slash watched.

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I think they're just lumping it
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To give you a better take on the
top ten, it is number 10, Stuff

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You Should Know, and that's down
by two points #9 Morbid, that's

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up by 9 points.
Dateline is number 8 and that's

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down by one point.
The new heights with Jason and

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Kelsey, Jason Travis Kelsey is
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Number six is this past weekend
with the Obama which is down by

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one point #5 is smart list that
gained a point #4 is Caller

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daddy #3 is The Daily.
Number 2 is Crime Junkie and we

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all know what number one is and
I refuse to say his name twice

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in the show.
Thank you, Dr. Appreciate that.

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I like the US going in a little
different direction this morning

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instead of just a Oh yeah, go go
make some eggs.

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Yes, go do it.
I will take over and share a few

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events that are coming up that
you all may be interested in.

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2025 Latinas in podcasting
virtual summit that happens

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tomorrow, Thursday, October
23rd.

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It's interesting.
It says from midnight to October

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24th, 11:59 Pacific Time.
Not sure how they're going to do

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that, but hey, more power to
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Maybe it's this, a 24 hour
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interesting.
OK And business and podcasting

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network event for female
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Tuesday, October 28th at 11:00
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This is hosted by the Female
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Podcasting Society.
It's a free event and it is

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virtual.
By the way, we will share all of

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this in the show notes for you.
Pod Tour by Pod Fest is coming

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Monday.
Pay attention.

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Oh, we lost Alex.
I was going to say Alex Baelish.

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Pay attention because he's in
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They're coming to New York and
it's going to be hosted at

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Odyssey in New York again
October 27th at 5:30 PM if

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you're interested in that.
And Speaking of Pod Fest, it's

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their 12th annual event that's
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That's Thursday, January 15th
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That's hosted in Orlando, FL.
You can check that out at

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podfestexpo.com.
I was going to give you my link.

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You know what, I'll give it to
Ashley.

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So good news.
I was going to I'll share it

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again tomorrow for wins if if I
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But good news, I am speaking at
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I'm going to be speaking about
creating big communities.

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Despite having a small audience.
I think I've proven the concept

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that it can happen.
I proved it this past September

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and I proved it in 2024 as well.
So I'm going to speak about it

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and start showing other people
that you can build a community

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even if you feel like your
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quote, too small.
So anyway, I've been given a

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link to share with everybody to
get 10% off your tickets.

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If you want to come join me at
Podfest this January, we'll put

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that in the show notes.
Ashley, remind me.

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I'll make sure to give that to
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Also, one other thing,
podcasters directory networking.

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authors.
It also happens tomorrow, 1:00

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education, training, news
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environment.
This is part of that group that

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Dr. Has shared with us each week
and I know since she's cooking I

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will just share if you use the
code PMC podcasting morning chat

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you can get in for free and this
is you can find go ahead.

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It works.
I just tried it before the show

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so I know the coupon is.
Working.

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All right, great.
And that's at podcasters

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directory.com and again, we'll
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All right, I will keep things
moving because I think DDR is

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still in the kitchen.
Yes, go ahead.

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Who was that?
That was me.

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Go ahead, Sid.
So I have a event announcement,

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I think, OK, at the Empower
Podcasting conference, I met

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Rick and Clancy Denton, who are
North Texas natives and.

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Clients of.
Mine, yes, and clients of yours

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and becoming friends of mine.
And the three of us have started

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a new group that will be live on
Facebook today called North

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Texas Podcasters.
I was we will all share it later

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today.
Clancy is building it out today

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and it will be an affiliation of
the Empowered Podcasting Group

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community, and we will be
building this Facebook community

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of North Texas podcasters to
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Our first event will be in
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networking gathering of North
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lookout.
You're welcome to follow us.

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There's not going to be a lot of
content on that Facebook group

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because it's just about getting
people together under one group

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in order to build out a
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gathering.
As we build it out, we'll be,

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like I said, going towards doing
a monthly meetups for North

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So if you know any and you see

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the group, please share it with
any of podcasters that you know

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that live in North Texas.
Love this Sid.

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Thank you for sharing that.
Go ahead, Dr. Is this virtual or

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like IRL?
The meetups are going to be in

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person.
We actually have found a couple

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of places that are centrally
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For the first one, I don't see
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Baza is not here with us this
morning, but certainly we're

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going to invite him to the group
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Texas as well.
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person, just as a way to gather
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build a community around
podcasters who live in and

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around the Dallas Fort area.
Very cool.

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And Sid, I please make sure to
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from that area, but I want to
make sure to support this as

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best I cans.
Being that there is an

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affiliation with Empowered
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everything we can to help grow
this group with you guys.

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So yeah, make sure I'm a part of
that and I will help contribute

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to adding content there if you
guys want to.

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I have some ideas in my head
floating around so we can talk

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about that too at some point.
But I'm, I'm really excited and

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it's really especially because
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event that we had this past
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It's really cool to see people
coming together and wanting more

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connection thanks to that event.
Very cool.

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Thank you, Sid.
All right, so I'm going to dive

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into some news bites.
We call this segment first

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decades old murder case finally
sees movement thanks to a

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podcast.
Now, I was, I start this by

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saying here, I've written down,
you don't hear stories like this

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every day.
And maybe not every day, but we

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have heard how podcasts and true
crime podcasts have helped solve

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these different cases that were
that were seemingly unsolvable.

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After more than 30 years,
there's finally been an arrest

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in the 1991 killing of Billie
Jean Letterman in Texarkana, AR.

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The case has long gone cold
until the true crime podcast

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Burden brought it back into the
spotlight.

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Burden, hosted by journalist
Karen Stewart and attorney

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Stephanie Harris, is produced by
Power of Pod.

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And it dug deep.
They went through interviews,

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forensic details, and decades of
unanswered questions, and now

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there's been a real world
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It's a perfect example of the
kind of impact podcasting can

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have when it's done with
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It's beyond storytelling.
It's storytelling that you can

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actually that can actually
change lives or in this case,

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reopen the door to unsolved
crimes.

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So if you're a creator, let this
be a reminder that your voice

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absolutely does matter far
beyond the podcast.

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And if you're a listener, it's
proof that the shows you follow

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are sometimes they move the
needle in ways none of us could

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predict.
So very cool.

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Congratulations to the Burden
podcast.

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I'll keep things moving.
Treble unveils Deep Cut, an AI

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editor and new brand identity as
well.

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I'll explain.
Audio editing platform Treble

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has launched its latest AI
feature, Deepcut, which scans

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and this is going to sound
familiar, but there is a twist,

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so stay with me.
It scans full recordings to

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identify filler words, tangents,
repeats and chatter, which I

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think chatter meaning probably
fluff, then builds an

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intelligent clean up plan for
creators.

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Alongside Deepcut, Treble also
introduces Safecut, a safeguard

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that applies only the edits the
system is confident will sound

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natural.
So think about that for a minute

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if you are somebody who uses
Riverside Magic Clips or Opus or

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Minvo.
I know that a lot of us have

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said in the past that sometimes
the edits feel a little sloppy,

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right?
It just doesn't feel like it's

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really smooth, professionally
cut.

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I think Riverside has been doing
a really good job of that.

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But what I'm really excited
about here with Treble is just

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the fact that it has these
safeguards up and it's only

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going to make the cuts if it is
quote UN quote, confident enough

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that it's going to be a smooth
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So check that out.
Again, it comes from Treble.

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Dr. Did you have something?
I bought this on Oh Sumo of

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course.
Recently.

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No, OK.
A while back and I wound up

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returning it.
That's one of the beauties of

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Apsumo.
And then I got into a tizzy

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about, I guess last month when I
was up against a deadline and

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one of my Daws stopped working
and I started, Oh my God, what

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am I going to do?
I got to, I'll go to Apsumo and

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get something right away.
But then so I.

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And any excuse to use Appsumo.
So travel came up and I went, oh

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God.
I remember I returned because I

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have a on my Trello board, I
have a whole list of things that

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I've returned so I know not to
buy them again unwittingly.

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And I said, oh God, travel, I
don't want to.

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So I did buy it only because I
felt desperate about this

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deadline.
And I opened it up and you know,

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I'm so used to the sound wave
that editing.

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Oh yeah, editing with the sound
wave, Yeah.

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Yeah, editing with the script is
I just wanted 2 tracks with a

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sound wave.
That's really all I wanted, so I

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wound up returning it for a
second.

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I like the text editing.
I just don't like it as my

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primary way to edit.
I'd like to have it as a

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secondary edit.
But yeah, I maybe call us

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traditional Dr. call us old, but
I think that the wave editing is

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our preference.
Ashley's agreeing and she's

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she's, I'll say, considerably
younger than us.

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So there you go.
All right.

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Dr. Do you want to take the next
story #3?

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Sure.
The Black Podcasting Awards 2025

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goes live spotlighting Black
podcasters, including community

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leaders, and, I'm sorry,
including community leader

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Dominic Lawson.
I'm so proud of him.

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As we mentioned yesterday, the
Black Podcasting Awards are as

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it's known, BP Awards held its
first in person ceremony,

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presented 45 awards across 29
podcasts, 5 individual podcasts

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and one network.
And among the winners, community

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leader Dominic Lawson walked
away with.

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Sorry I didn't have my finger on
the button.

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With three wins, including
podcaster of the year.

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Yep.
Is that amazing?

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Yep.
So he is now a 42 time award

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winner.
Dominic Lawson.

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I know we talked about this a
little bit yesterday, but I

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wanted to give the this award
ceremony its props because,

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yeah, it was the first time it
they actually did it live in

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person.
I got a little emotional because

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he's one of us, he's one of
ours.

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So.
The BP Awards 2025 ceremony

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marked its first physical event
held in Baltimore during the

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Afros and Audio Podcast Festival
weekend.

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A total of 45 awards were given
out, covering 29 podcasts, 5

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individual podcasters, and one
podcast network.

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I mentioned that before and
again, our own Dominic Lawson

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received three awards including
peer voted, peer voted podcaster

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of the year.
So that is so great.

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Indeed.
And if you're interested in

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that, you can look up Afrozen
audio, you can look up Black

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Podcasting Awards, and we will
share some links in the show

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notes as well if you want to
hear more about some of the

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winners, including Anna Deshawn,
who swept for honors, including

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the Legend Award.
So if you want to learn more

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about the award winners and
nominees, go for it.

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And congratulations to all of
those nominees and winners.

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Moving on, Apple Podcast is
getting ahead of the holiday

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rush, warning creators to plan
their release schedules

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accordingly.
It's crazy.

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It's this time of year, every
year we, we cover this part of

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this, this story from Apple, and
it's just crazy how quickly time

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flies.
The platform says submissions

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for new channels or paid
subscriptions made between

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November 22nd through the 30th
and December 24th through the

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January 1st might face slower
approval times and support

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responses could take a little
longer than usual.

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The good news, publishing new
episodes or launching new shows

453
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,720
won't be affected.
So this is very specific to if

454
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,200
you are launching a channel on
Apple Podcasts or a paid

455
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,400
subscription that it's, it's
specific to that it should not

456
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,360
disrupt normal episode
publishing according to Apple.

457
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,040
Has anybody started thinking?
And if you're in the audience,

458
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,640
give me a one in the chat.
If you've started to plan your

459
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,480
podcast for the holidays,
whether that means you're doing

460
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:31,320
special episodes or you're
planning a break, or maybe

461
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,720
you're planning ahead and just
trying to get your regular

462
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,800
content out.
So we've got several people who

463
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,800
are planning ahead.
And if any of those people that

464
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,200
I am seeing in the chat are open
to coming up and sharing, would

465
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,440
love to hear it.
Share a little bit about your

466
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,040
plans.
Let's bring up Amanda Yoa, who

467
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,000
we mentioned yesterday on the
show.

468
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Amanda Yoa making her local TI
don't know this for sure.

469
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,600
I'm going to just say her local
TV debut.

470
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,560
Good.
Morning, you saw that I watched.

471
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,000
That whole clip, it was awesome.
Thank you get that was that was

472
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,880
the Late Show on Fox 29.
That was a lot of fun.

473
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Yeah, it looked like you were
having fun.

474
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320
And I, I'm so impressed with
you, Amanda, because I know

475
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,280
that, you know, I don't think
Pam was something you had

476
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,960
planned a long time ago.
And you have just embraced that.

477
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,040
I mean, you were, it felt like I
was watching, you know, Jimmy

478
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon, and you
were one of his character guests

479
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,840
on their show.
You did a great job.

480
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Thank you.
I appreciate that.

481
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Yeah, she's a lot of fun.
So we're taking her and and

482
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,240
having good times doing all all
sorts of things.

483
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,800
That being said, and I'm glad
you brought that up because that

484
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,280
was my reasoning for coming up
and sharing like my plans for

485
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,160
the holidays.
I kind of abruptly ended my

486
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,920
podcast for the for the holiday
this.

487
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,960
So this Friday coming up will be
the last show, and that was a

488
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,040
decision that I had to make
through a cry to myself in the

489
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,640
shower.
But are you saying your last

490
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,880
ever or just for the year?
No.

491
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,000
No, no, no.
Yeah, just just for the holiday

492
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,480
season.
We're going to pick back up in

493
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,120
January, but it was earlier.
I usually always take a holiday

494
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,280
break because, you know, my mom
and Christmas and and all the

495
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320
thing, the holidays are here.
It was earlier than I normally

496
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,800
do.
I usually have a Thanksgiving

497
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,480
episode or Christmas episode,
all of those things and I just

498
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,640
everything that I have going on,
I feel like it's very

499
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,840
overwhelming.
So I had to reprioritize.

500
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,400
I also have plans to relocate
and, you know, change up a few

501
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,920
things.
So all of that being said, I

502
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,360
said, you know what, let me just
wrap it up a little earlier than

503
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,560
usual.
I went on Instagram Live,

504
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,880
explained it to my community,
and then I explained it in the

505
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,440
podcast at the end.
So sometimes things are

506
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,960
unexpected, but you got to do
what you got to do.

507
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.

508
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,240
And I appreciate that, Cher,
because I think it sometimes is

509
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680
hard for a lot of podcasters to
say, yeah, I'm just going to

510
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,920
take an extended break.
Even if it's a holiday season.

511
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,600
We get it drilled in our heads
about consistency, and you got

512
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040
to keep posting.
But I personally am in the camp

513
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,480
that if you need a break, I want
you to take a break.

514
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,720
Because otherwise, if you're
feeling that way and you just

515
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,320
keep pushing anyway, I think
that is a recipe for pod fade.

516
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,000
And we do it too here at the
podcasting morning chat.

517
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,160
We usually at the very least
take a couple weeks off between

518
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Christmas and New Year's.
And I think it's good for all of

519
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,120
us to get that break.
Mishawn, welcome to the stage.

520
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,120
Curious about you.
You said you have some holiday

521
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,000
planning around your podcast.
What?

522
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,840
What have you got going?
Oh yeah, we're crunching all our

523
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,280
interviews and recordings to
have podcasts ready to go

524
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,360
through the 1st, not the second
Tuesday in December, because we

525
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,120
always do 2nd and 4th Tuesdays
unless we do something

526
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,600
different.
And we've got Jackielle High,

527
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,480
whose book has been adapted into
a new film, Nuremberg, which is

528
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:16,400
coming out October 27th, where
we've got Doctor Sandra Shannon,

529
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,440
Who's the authority on August
Wilson.

530
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,280
So we're going to talk about
August Wilson.

531
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,240
That conversation was very
interesting.

532
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,280
Both of these conversations are
interesting.

533
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480
And we're going to just round
it, you know, end the year with

534
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,920
Jane Austen's birthday.
You know, this is her, the 250th

535
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,240
anniversary of her birth.
We have a curator who can say

536
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,360
which costumes are right, which
ones get it wrong in the films,

537
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,680
you know, the adaptations of
Jane Austen's books.

538
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,280
And then another woman, Vanessa
Riley, who was an advisor to the

539
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,640
Hallmark Hall of Fame since the
Sensibility adaptation.

540
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,600
And she has a book that's being
optioned for film treatment too.

541
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,800
So that's, and then we're trying
to get someone to do our January

542
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,800
recording before the holidays so
that we are not scrambling

543
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,200
during the end of December to
launch a January podcast.

544
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,240
And we just take 1-2 weeks off,
about two to three weeks off

545
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,760
before.
And so just so I'm clear, So

546
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,680
what you're doing now is
basically batch recording so

547
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120
that you can take that time off
or?

548
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Exactly.
I didn't know the term for it,

549
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,560
but yeah.
OK, cool.

550
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,040
It looks like Sid has a
question.

551
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,760
Go ahead, Sid.
Well.

552
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,440
Not a question, I was just going
to follow up with what what I'm

553
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,560
doing and.
Oh, well then let me just say to

554
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,000
Mashawn, thank you for sharing,
Mashawn.

555
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,120
I appreciate that.
Mashawn, what's the name of your

556
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,040
podcast?
Historical drama with the Boston

557
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,720
sisters.
Thank you.

558
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,360
There you go.
We'll we'll try to get that in

559
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,040
the show notes.
If you want to link to it in the

560
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,640
chat, Ashley will grab it and
we'll put it in the show notes.

561
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,240
Yeah, go ahead, Sid.
Please share.

562
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,960
And so I have one episode left
to record, which is the season 7

563
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,480
recap.
And I'm doing something kind of

564
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,480
fun with it using notebook LM
and there's a recap for the

565
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,560
season and then that will air
The So what is it actually air

566
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,480
is going to be the 10th of
November and then we're done for

567
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,800
the year.
So we'll take the rest of

568
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,600
November off because the next
publishing date would be the

569
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,920
week of Thanksgiving.
Then we take December and

570
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,840
January off.
During that time I'm recording,

571
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,520
I'm connecting with guests, I'm
doing pre interviews, and I'm

572
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,199
recording for Season 7, get
everything set up for Season 7.

573
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,840
Then our first episode will
publish February 2nd, Monday,

574
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,159
February 2nd of Season 7.
So I take those two months to

575
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,840
get ahead and with the new
structure and everything that

576
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,560
we're doing, it'll be a little
bit of a challenge just to see

577
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,880
that we like the new structure
of the show and all that.

578
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,280
We'll play around with it for a
little bit.

579
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,400
So we're going to take two
months off and I'll make that

580
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,159
announcement.
I will be dropping a special

581
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,680
trailer episode probably in
early January.

582
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,200
That's just a preview of Season
7 and some of the changes and

583
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,840
announcing our sponsors and
those kinds of things.

584
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,680
As a as I haven't done a new
trailer since the show started.

585
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,560
So have a new trailer come out
sometime in January.

586
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,600
Very cool, Sid.
I just had this flash that all

587
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,960
these, all this change that
you've made to the podcast.

588
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,520
It feels almost like new car
smell, if that makes sense.

589
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,440
I I just feel that for you, I
just feel that fresh.

590
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,560
I can actually understand that,
yeah.

591
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,120
That's a great analogy, by the
way.

592
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,840
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm excited for you, Sid.

593
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880
I feel the renewed energy and I
can't wait to hear what you've

594
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,320
done.
OK, let's see here.

595
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,160
Janae is on stage.
We'll go to Janae and then we'll

596
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,120
keep things moving.
We haven't even gotten to some

597
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,920
of the major headlines yet.
And I know we are about 40

598
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,400
minutes from time.
So we will do our best to get to

599
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,320
everything.
Janae, good morning.

600
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,480
Did you want to share about your
holiday plans for your podcast?

601
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Good morning.
Yes, I do have a little bit of

602
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,280
plan.
So I've already the episodes pre

603
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,440
scheduled for the holidays, but
I'm going to be adding a few new

604
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:08,440
episodes on a different day just
to keep the people interested in

605
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,200
what's what we're planning.
Something that I've also paused

606
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,720
on is recording episodes on the
podcast.

607
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:21,880
As you as we know, I have a huge
batch of episodes and in the

608
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,800
process of what it looks like
for post production and

609
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,760
promotion and communicating with
guests and training people as

610
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,040
well as bring I brought on an
intern to help them teach this

611
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,440
process as well.
So that's something that I'm

612
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,640
excited to be doing during the
holidays or the next couple of

613
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,560
months.
Very cool, Janae.

614
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,040
Thank you for sharing that and
hopefully this has been helpful

615
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,960
to you listening right now.
If you're thinking about your

616
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,160
holiday plans, maybe we've
sparked some thoughts, ideas for

617
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,120
you.
And like I said, ultimately do

618
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,920
what what feels right to you and
try not to put too much pressure

619
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680
on yourself.
If a break is in order, it's OK.

620
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Really.
I know that some of the I'm just

621
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,520
hearing some of the gurus out
there disagreeing with me

622
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,680
wholeheartedly and I don't
really care.

623
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,880
This is a long game and I think
we got to play it as such and

624
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,080
not play the long game as it's
as if it's a short game.

625
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
I just, it's seems ridiculous to
me.

626
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,920
OK, we'll keep going.
Spotify launches its first FAST

627
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,120
in all caps FAST channel on
Samsung TV Plus.

628
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,320
This is a follow up to last
week's Netflix deal.

629
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,720
In a big move following that
announcement last week, Spotify

630
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:47,000
is rolling out its first free ad
supported streaming television.

631
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,840
That is what FAST stands for
channel on Samsung TV Plus.

632
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,360
The channel titled The Ringer
from Spotify features 24/7

633
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:01,920
streaming video podcast content
from the popular The Ringer

634
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,520
network.
Think about shows like the

635
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,840
Reachables, higher learning,
etcetera.

636
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,120
And this will be exclusive on
the Samsung platform.

637
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,560
So I find it really interesting
that Spotify is making these

638
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:20,280
moves with these big TV
streaming services, especially

639
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,040
just being that they've been
promoting their own video

640
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,760
platform for so long.
I guess this is just to help

641
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,880
them really extend that reach.
Content is content and so

642
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,720
probably the next one in line
would be the Roku TV's.

643
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:44,240
Roku has a full lineup of free
quote UN quote free channels and

644
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,880
they don't have a podcast
channel yet, but I kind of feel

645
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,200
like that's probably the next
update.

646
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,720
Who knows, maybe it's Roku and
Apple that make some kind of

647
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,640
deal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see

648
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,080
some big players following suit
with Spotify.

649
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Let's keep things moving here
and see if we can get to some of

650
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,000
these major headlines that we
teased at the very top of the

651
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,760
show.
YouTube recently laid out a

652
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,080
podcast playbook for growth and
engagement.

653
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,720
Earlier this month, they opened
It's Their Playbook for

654
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,920
Podcasters, offering up a range
of tips to turn a traditional

655
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,440
audio podcast into a visually
engaging, discoverable and

656
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,400
community driven show.
From leveraging video elements

657
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,960
to tweaking your thumbnails and
engagement strategy, the

658
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,320
platform wants podcasters to act
like YouTube creators, too.

659
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,840
What a shocker.
They note that podcasts are now

660
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,720
part of its ecosystem.
I think most of us knew that.

661
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:43,800
Over a billion monthly active
podcast listeners and viewers.

662
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,000
And YouTube is, according to
YouTube, the most frequently

663
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,640
used service for podcast
listening in the US.

664
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,720
While your podcast might be
audio first, YouTube remains a

665
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:59,600
visual platform.
Even a simple webcam shot of the

666
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,120
host can improve connection.
Again, this is coming from their

667
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,560
playbook, not necessarily from
me directly.

668
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:10,040
Best practice record a full
video version of pod of your

669
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,240
podcast, which means things like
again, they're suggesting multi

670
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,480
angles, B roll on screen
graphics, etcetera to elevate

671
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,400
the visual experience.
And it's noted here that of

672
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,960
course, that does increase time
for the podcaster, for the

673
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,920
creator and costs.
They also focus on thumbnail

674
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,040
strategy.
I just had a discovery call

675
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,560
yesterday where somebody was
asking me do thumbnails really

676
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,680
matter on YouTube?
I hear it does.

677
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,240
Does it matter?
Well YouTube is telling you it

678
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:45,480
does use expressive faces, high
contrast colors, and I would

679
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,880
recommend not too many colors.
Minimal bold text, like 3 to 5

680
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,000
words.
So similarly to what we suggest

681
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,920
when you're naming a podcast or
even for that matter your

682
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,920
episode titles, I think keeping
them to around 3:00 to 5:00

683
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,760
words is helpful.
And constant branding so your

684
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,080
episodes stand out in a busy
feed.

685
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,080
More from YouTube's playbook.
Meta data and structure matter.

686
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Split episodes into chapters for
easier navigation.

687
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,480
I don't know if anybody
remembers this, but I've been

688
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,160
preaching this.
I know I have.

689
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Especially to clients and
discovery calls.

690
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,040
I've been preaching this method
for a long time now.

691
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,040
If you have, let's just say a 30
minute episode, break it into 5

692
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,200
to 10 minute segments.
Like literally make them their

693
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,080
own individual segment and then
create a playlist and put them

694
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,080
in order in that playlist.
So this way people can find

695
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,680
either that individual segment
or they can find it and then

696
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,800
listen to all of the segments
together in a playlist.

697
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,120
So I'm just glad to see that I'm
on the same page as YouTube.

698
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,280
Engagement is central, again,
coming from their playbook.

699
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,400
Ask viewers questions during
your podcast.

700
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,840
Reply to comments.
Use the Community tab that

701
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,040
YouTube offers, which has things
like polls, GIFs, images,

702
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,480
etcetera to tease upcoming
guests or get feedback.

703
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,280
Enable clips so viewers share
highlight moments.

704
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,480
Yvonne, you joined us as I'm
sharing here about YouTube and I

705
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,840
know you're on a YouTube journey
of your own.

706
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,320
What did you want to add to all
this?

707
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Yeah, I have a question about
the chapters.

708
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,520
I can totally see where chapters
are.

709
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,840
Would be useful for how to
videos.

710
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:43,240
I go to YouTube to learn stuff
all the time and I really

711
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,680
appreciate chapters but I have a
hard time.

712
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,040
I haven't done it for mine,
partly because of bandwidth, but

713
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:57,040
also because it's a conversation
and it's not a how to, and so I

714
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,960
wonder how to do it or if it's
valuable in that case.

715
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,120
OK, so first let me just make it
clear there's a difference

716
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,040
chapters and I guess what we'll
call these as segments.

717
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,920
So chapters are where you can
create those chapter markers

718
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,720
within YouTube and other
platforms do this too, where you

719
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:22,160
can basically click on the
chapter within the YouTube

720
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,760
description and it'll jump to
that point in the video.

721
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:31,000
What I'm suggesting are actual
creating separate videos for

722
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,520
segments of the podcast.
So you're literally uploading

723
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,360
segment 1, giving it its own
title, its own description,

724
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,360
segment 2, same thing, etcetera,
and then you're putting them all

725
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,280
in a YouTube playlist.
So not like.

726
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Shorts.
But.

727
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Bigger than shorts, smaller than
the episode.

728
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,720
Now.
Ask me your question again,

729
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,360
because there was another part
to that.

730
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,160
I was thinking specifically
about those chapter markers and

731
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,680
thinking, yeah, super useful for
how to videos when I'm going

732
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,920
there to learn something and I,
I just want to jump to, oh, OK,

733
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040
I just want to know this part.
So those are really helpful.

734
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,200
But for a conversation that's
kind of like a high level

735
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,440
Evergreen conversation, I don't,
I don't, I wouldn't even know

736
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,920
how to do that or if it's or if
I'd want to do that because I

737
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,520
feel like I want people to
experience the conversation

738
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,160
because there's context at the
beginning that might lead to

739
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,200
something later in the
conversation.

740
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,920
Yeah, and I think that at the
end of the day, you can't force

741
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,080
that.
I think I respect that approach,

742
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,400
and I think you can plan for
that approach.

743
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,200
But I think giving audiences
options in how they consume the

744
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,640
content can be helpful too.
If you're having trouble

745
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,320
actually identifying the
chapters, you can easily do

746
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
that.
Well, a with AI, you could just

747
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,200
feed it the transcript and ask
it to do that.

748
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,360
Spotify does that for you.
But but the yeah, you could do

749
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,880
that.
And I had one other thought.

750
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,320
Let me think it through.
Oh, you could do it by

751
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,240
questions, right.
So if you're interviewing

752
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:16,560
somebody, each new question
could be a chapter.

753
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,360
Well, very helpful.
Thank you.

754
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,760
So I have a question about that
because Yvonne and I are shows

755
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,200
are very similar where their
conversations.

756
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,440
So the videos that you're
talking about and I heard

757
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,760
somebody say this at Podcast
movement, the video that you put

758
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,520
into the playlist, not a short,
but the extra video is question

759
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,840
and then the guest answering it.
So it could be a 2 minute, 32nd

760
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,920
or five minute segment and
that's what you're saying put

761
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,880
into the playlist.
So question answer based.

762
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,840
In that case, yes, absolutely.
That is what I'm saying.

763
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,000
So you can do that with chapters
as I described the difference a

764
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,960
moment ago, or you can do that
with segmented videos.

765
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,320
Yeah.
So one of my clients, what I do

766
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:04,720
is for every episode we put out
three shorts and I called them

767
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:09,040
three Q&A's.
So that Q&A is not vertical,

768
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:14,920
it's horizontal.
And it is my client asking the

769
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,040
question and the person
answering it.

770
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,280
Now could be a 2 minute video,
it could be an 8 minute video,

771
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:27,880
However long it takes for them
to answer the question is how

772
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,800
long that video is.
And I think we gain the

773
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,240
advantage of that is that the
question is very, you know, we

774
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:41,600
take into account SEO, what are
what are her, you know,

775
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,640
listeners wanting to know.
So we use that as the title of

776
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,280
the video, and they're actually
doing pretty well, I got to say.

777
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,840
And that just sparked an idea
too for me or not an idea, just

778
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,080
a reminder it popped in my head.
You could also do this.

779
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,280
It doesn't have to be each
segment or chapter, doesn't have

780
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,640
to be question, answer,
question, answer.

781
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,680
You could maybe it's a series of
questions and answers, right?

782
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,720
Because maybe you're talking
about a very specific topic.

783
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,600
Like if it were to hear doing,
if we're doing this at the

784
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,640
podcasting morning chat, I'm
interviewing somebody about

785
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,640
social media, right?
We might be discussing Instagram

786
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,320
specifically and I may have
three different questions about

787
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,280
Instagram for this social media
expert.

788
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,960
That could be a segment or a
chapter.

789
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,600
I think the key when we're
segmenting, when we're actually

790
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:36,120
pulling out parts of the podcast
and uploading them as their own,

791
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,080
I think the key is keeping them
to around 8 to 10 minutes.

792
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,640
The research I've done has said
that 8 to 10 minute videos on

793
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,080
YouTube tend to be the sweet
spot, tend to do really well.

794
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,600
If you can keep somebody engaged
with your content, that one

795
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,200
video for around 8 to 10
minutes, they watch it all the

796
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,160
way through.
That's going to help with the

797
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,040
algorithm.
But I'm not trying to discourage

798
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,960
you either.
If that segment ends up being 2

799
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,160
minutes and you're happy with
that, then by all means go for

800
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,760
it.
Going for the title, we're

801
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,360
that's what we're actually
shooting for is, you know,

802
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,680
what's which question is the one
that's going to get people to

803
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,520
click on it, you know?
Let's check in with Renee before

804
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,160
we wrap up this part of the
conversation since she joined us

805
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,440
during the conversation.
Renee, good morning.

806
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,560
What did you want to add to
this?

807
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,840
I wanted to bring the analogy to
books.

808
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,440
Books all have chapters, but
they flow.

809
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Most of them flow in a way that
you need to read it, you know,

810
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,560
step by step, chapter by
chapter.

811
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,640
It's just like a video.
It doesn't really matter how you

812
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,760
get them into your web.
I'm, I'm saying video, I'm

813
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,640
sorry.
I will adjust to the podcast

814
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,640
world.
It is a busy video, I guess

815
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,400
we're talking about.
So it's the video.

816
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,880
And when we do chapters, even
for our clients, which we aren't

817
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,480
podcasters yet, but we are doing
videos for our clients, we're

818
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,240
always breaking them down by
chapters because that's how your

819
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,000
listener, your viewer wants to
follow.

820
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:09,240
They may be looking for
something and you're talking

821
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:12,040
about something at the 79 minute
mark.

822
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,920
So why don't you let the
algorithm and YouTube help

823
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,240
direct them exactly to that
moment.

824
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,080
Then they go, oh, this is really
good.

825
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,320
I think I'm going to listen to
this whole podcast.

826
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,040
So look at it more as a
marketing technique.

827
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,800
Look at it more as an analogy to
actual books, how we read books.

828
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,240
Why do we have chapters?
So we can go back to that.

829
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,440
Some of us might look at as a
breather or a four stopping

830
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,880
point, but it really is to know
what this is, what this segment

831
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,200
is about.
So I only think they're a great

832
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,760
thing and they don't have to be
Q And as I mean, I think Diary

833
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,080
of a CEO shows it perfectly how
he does it.

834
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,800
He does his teasers at the
beginning.

835
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,640
He takes a little sound bite,
doesn't answer the question, get

836
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,400
you your mouth salivating at the
very beginning of the different

837
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,760
things he's talking about.
Then he does chapters the whole

838
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,200
way through.
He just does one word like he'll

839
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,160
go, you know, he'll just say
Ozempic and then you know, oh,

840
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,400
this is about where Ozempic
starts.

841
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,920
And so you can, if you just are
coming for Ozempic, you can

842
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,920
listen to it.
And I do realize it's not

843
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,080
necessarily a fluid
conversation, but it is it is

844
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:19,000
he.
He takes you on a journey from

845
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,960
the beginning to the end.
But you still might just want to

846
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,080
listen to the Ozempic part and
that's all you need.

847
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,080
So I think the algorithm is
important for chapters.

848
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,000
I think viewers like chapters
and books have chapters.

849
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,520
So let's not buck the system.
I think it's a wonderful thing.

850
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,880
And I am one of my giftings and
I say it tongue in cheek, is

851
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,120
that I'm a professional skim
reader.

852
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,120
That is my job in the company.
Like my I will say I don't get

853
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,560
those paragraphs about.
If I read the whole thing I

854
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,480
would know, but the marketing
wasn't good enough for me to

855
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,120
understand with that header tag
what this is about.

856
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,440
Then we have to rewrite it.
I mean, we joke about it all the

857
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,000
time, but I it's not force fed
to me.

858
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,680
So it's it's bad.
And so we use that as my

859
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,880
superpower for the company.
But that's how I like chapters

860
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,040
because I may not want to what I
mean.

861
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,960
Here's the other thing.
We are not as much as we think.

862
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,840
People listen to our entire
podcast.

863
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,960
You guys have the insights, you
have the stats, you can see

864
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,440
where people drop off or just a
section has a hump in it.

865
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,120
Why does that have a hump?
Because somebody directed people

866
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,120
to that hump.
Well, that hump helps your

867
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,360
stats, that helps you get paid.
So I think chapters are a gift.

868
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,520
YouTube doesn't do things and
puts things out there unless you

869
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,800
should be doing.
Now they're telling us do this,

870
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,880
this will help you.
So I just look at as a gift and

871
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,960
we find we can even with the
clients, we do their YouTube

872
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,960
channels.
We noticed that doing that helps

873
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,960
bring people in.
Amen to that, Renee.

874
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,520
I think.
Well said.

875
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,840
And I don't know if you quite
said it like this too.

876
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,440
You.
I think you may have brushed by

877
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,280
it, but I, I'd written it down
just to make sure to point it

878
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,120
out.
Yeah.

879
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,600
Also, they may come back to the
content at some point.

880
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,320
If they've listened to the whole
episode, maybe there's a point

881
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,240
in the episode they want to hear
again, or like you were saying,

882
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:11,560
Renee, they want to share it
with some friends, like, oh, you

883
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,320
got to hear this and they can
share it just from that point.

884
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,960
Or if it's a segmented video,
just share that segment, what

885
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,280
have you.
I think, you know, there are

886
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,560
lots of different ways to
utilize chapters and or

887
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,800
segments.
So thank you for saying that,

888
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,840
Yvonne.
All right, y'all, y'all

889
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,880
convinced me I'm I'm I'm going
to I'm going to explore.

890
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Thank you.
You're welcome.

891
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,240
I think that's a good idea.
And again, you can easily do

892
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:39,560
that with AI if you don't want
to, if your brains hurting too

893
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,560
much trying to figure out what
chapters to put where and what

894
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,600
to title them, etcetera.
It makes it nice and easy.

895
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,000
OK, listen gang, we are about 4
minutes away from the top of the

896
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,080
hour.
So I want to remind you that

897
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,640
tomorrow we're doing the podcast
evaluation for the podcast

898
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,280
called The Runner's Soul, a new
independent podcast who is asked

899
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,000
to get feedback.
So we are answering that call

900
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,080
and we are going to be sharing
about it tomorrow.

901
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,720
We'll play some clips from the
episode.

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We'll talk about the things
about the podcast overall that

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we think she's doing really
well, some things that we think

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she could improve upon, all the
things we're doing it tomorrow.

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So come join us 7:00 AM Eastern,
live on Clubhouse, live on

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Chatter, live on YouTube.
We would love to have you there.

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And For more information, go to
podpage.com/PMC.

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Until tomorrow, make it a great
day everybody, take care.