Your Podcast’s Name Is Taken—Now What?

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Friday, June 6th, 2025
and today, what do you do when

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your dream podcast name is
already taken?

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We're breaking it down with a
real world example.

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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morning chat.
Thank you for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronik and
currently on stage with me.

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My Co hosts we have producer
Ashley Feller, Dr. Faye, Sid

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Meadows and Nick Nolback.
And like I said at the

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beginning, we're going to dig
into a real world case or true

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story, if you will, thanks to
Dr. who is working with a brand

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new client she told us about
earlier in the week, I believe.

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And I think what I will do is
I'll just go straight to you,

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Dr. if you don't mind, and go
ahead and set this up.

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Tell us what's going on with
this new client.

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So he is a launch client and
he's into the topic of the show

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is going to be robotics and he,
the formal name for it I guess

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is industrial automation, but
it's basically robotics and

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things.
He's a really smart guy.

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He's got some brains on him.
So he came to me.

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He's been living with this name
of his show in his brain for a

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while.
He's had this idea to do this

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show for a while, and he's kind
of settled on this name.

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And honestly, as a podcast
producer, that's probably my

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hardest job is to get people to
nudge a little bit on the name.

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I mean, I would love, I would
love it if there were some

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keywords in it.
But you know, this is his show.

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Yeah.
And I'm going to stop you right

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there for a second because this
goes back to stuff we talked

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about all the time, that there
are tons of different strategies

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out there to help with
discoverability, help with your

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growth.
And one of those things with

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discoverability is, yeah, like
you said, Dr. putting in

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keywords into the title, things
that people are going to be

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searching for, that maybe then
your show name will pop up in

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that search.
But it's important, I think to

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say that ultimately it is up to
you, the client or you, the

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podcaster, what you're going to
name your show and it may go

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against the traditional
strategies.

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And I think that's OK.
You know, some of the most

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successful businesses, podcasts,
social media channels, etcetera,

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all, not all, a lot of them have
unusual names that you wouldn't

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know.
I mean, look at Google, right?

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I mean, there are sometimes
names that don't fit the mold

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and the show still does well.
It's just if you're trying to

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position yourself to be
discovered more rapidly, I guess

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is the best way to put it, Sure,
then go ahead and put in those

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keywords.
But sometimes, if it's just in

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your heart that you feel this is
the name, then so be it.

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Right.
And I wanted to be said that he

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is actually, should I say, a
celebrity in his circles.

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Everyone knows who this guy is.
He's lectured.

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And he, I mean, he's pretty well
known in this circle.

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We did a huge search, you know,
to see if we're infringing on

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the name and everything.
And the name that he has chosen

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is Mastering the Machine,
Mastering the Machine.

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And we did an extensive search.
We went to Listen Notes and we

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went to podnews.net because they
have a database of podcasts.

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We went to Apple, we went to
Spotify, we went everyone.

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And I have several different
databases of podcasts and I went

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to them all did nothing, came
up, was fine.

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So 2 days ago I don't know what
got into me but I just went on

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Spotify and I put in mastering
the machine and boom it popped

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up.
That's so weird.

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So yeah, so weird.
And you only find it on Spotify.

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You're not finding it anywhere
else, and I mean nowhere else,

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just Spotify.
And how many shows?

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Well there is a trailer and one
episode and that episode was

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done in March.
So to me, what this is telling

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me is that this is a brand.
Well, sure.

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And this is a brand new
podcaster, somebody new to the

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whole game, probably their first
podcast.

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And I'm saying that because
they're only on Spotify, right?

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And So what I'm thinking, my
assumption is that they use

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Spotify for Creators because
it's free and they didn't take

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the time to set it up with all
the other platforms.

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Because quite frankly, it's not
that easy with Spotify for

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Creators to, you know, like it
is for with Buzz Sprout, where

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you essentially just click a
button, say, yeah, I want to be

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on that directory.
I want to be on that directory.

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And it for the most part just
does it for you.

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But Spotify for creators?
Not so much.

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Right.
I don't even know why it popped

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up to for me the first the
second time I did it and not the

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first.
I didn't even know how I

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stumbled upon this.
I didn't stumble upon it the

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first time.
So that's weird.

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What one of the suggestions was
maybe it's a private podcast and

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I thought, well, maybe it is,
but then you know, yeah, but

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it's publicly out there Stumble
upon.

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But there is when you bring it
up on Spotify, there is some

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something that looks like a link
like right below the name of it

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on the banner on Spotify.
Of course that's not clickable.

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But if you go maybe into the
description, it might be

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clickable, but it doesn't make
any sense.

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It's a very long with a bunch of
random letters and stuff.

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So it it kind of looks like what
a link would look like if it was

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clickable.
So here are my and I want to and

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I know that I will eventually be
going to the clients either

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today or tomorrow letting him
know that this is what I found

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and what does he want to do?
I'm going to, I plan to present

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him with some alternative names,
but seeing that there's only one

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episode out there and it was
back in March, what would you

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do?
Would you reach out to the hosts

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of the show and say hi, Hey,
what you doing?

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Or would you forgo that all
together?

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What would you do?
I thought I would open it up to

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the room.
Yeah, I have all sorts of

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questions for the room to see
where we where somebody should

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go in a situation like this.
And I see Ashley's got her hand

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up.
Before I go to you, Ashley, I

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also want to put in the chat a
colleague, friend of mine in the

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business, the podcast haven.com,
that's Eric Montgomery.

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He has that name checker.
I looked.

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At it.
Yeah, I.

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Looked there.
Yeah.

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Oh, OK, good.
And it didn't come up correct.

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Weird, 'cause I looked and it
came up.

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I looked this morning, yeah.
And it came right up.

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So weird.
Very odd.

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All right, we're going to go to
Ashley and then we're going to

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go to Sid.
Go ahead, Ashley.

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Good morning.
Hey, good morning.

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I would first see if they also
have like a website set up for

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this podcast and also see if
there's a social media accounts

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that match this podcast, so to
speak.

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And if you can find any contact
information, I would, you know,

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if your client is dead set on
that name and this other podcast

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is clearly not active, doesn't
appear to be, I would reach out

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and say, hey, you know, are you,
do you have intentions on

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continuing this is the situation
and go from there.

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Because in most cases, I would
say just try to find another

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name.
But clearly this is a situation

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where someone started and didn't
follow through.

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And there's a perfectly good
name out there.

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Right.
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly

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with Ashley to dig even deeper,
see if there's websites, social

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media presence, etcetera.
See if those are active.

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Even if they are, there could be
that they faded from everything,

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not just the podcast.
So check that as well.

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And if I'm in your shoes or in
your client's shoes, I

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personally, I'm a little nervous
to go and poke that bear, right?

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Because you know, a they could
say, Oh yeah, we want to get

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back to that and somebody else
wants the name.

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Oh, we better get back to that.
And then all of a sudden they're

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going to start putting out
episodes again.

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And or even worse, you know,
they may, they may now you're on

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their radar now.
And if you go and proceed with

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that name, maybe then they're
going to quickly try to shut

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that down and.
Exactly that would worry me.

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It's important.
It's important to note that the

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two shows are completely
different in topic.

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The show that exists now is
using the word machine in place

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of the word business.
So they are talking about

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business being like a well oiled
machine and stuff like that.

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Mastering the machine.
That's their that is the way

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that they are using that name.
My client, on the other hand,

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he's talking about, you know,
robotics and and stuff like

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that.
Yeah, and we should say none of

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us here are are attorneys.
So you have to take some of what

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we say with a grain of salt.
And we don't have Gordon

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Firemark here, the podcast
lawyer and I'll share this

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episode with him to get some
input and I'll.

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Reach out to him.
Yeah, sure.

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I'm on Adm basis with Gordon.
Cool.

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Yeah, So so am I.
He's actually considering coming

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to Empowered Podcasting this
year as well.

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He was asking me about it over
the weekend.

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So yeah, we should hear soon if
he is going to come.

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And I know I have a feeling I
know what he would say.

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He would say, you know, either
pick a new name or maybe even

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just try to trademark this name
before, you know, if it's not

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trademarked, you might be able
to.

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And one other question I would
have for him.

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Why is it that, and I, I think
I've said this before, but why

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is it that book titles can be
duplicated by different authors,

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but in podcasting it can't.
You can have two book titles by

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two different, I'm sorry, two
different authors writing the

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same book title and that's OK.
I don't get it.

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Yeah, song titles too.
Exactly.

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So I it's confusing to me why
you can't with podcasts.

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OK, let's see, Sid had.
Something that was actually my

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one of my questions, mark, is
are there rules or laws that say

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you cannot have a podcast that
has the same name as someone

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else?
Is that just an unwritten

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respected rule of the trade, or
is that written somewhere that

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says you cannot have?
I do know that there was a

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podcast that got sued and, and
they were presented with a cease

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and desist and the independent
podcast, I don't even remember

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what the name of it was.
It's something like Shatter the

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Glass or something like that.
It was an independent, it was

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one of us people.
And then I think A star came

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around, a celebrity for some
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I want to say Christian Bale,
but I don't, I'm not 100% on

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that.
So she came out.

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I was a female celebrity, same
name, and the celebrity got a

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cease and desist and had to
alter the name of the of her

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show.
Yeah, And to Sid's question, is

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there really a written rule
somewhere?

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I mean, look, I'll, I'm just
asking ChatGPT, so take this

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however you want it.
ChatGPT says no, there is no

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actual written rule.
And it goes on to say, but

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here's the fine print.
There's no formal registry for

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podcast names like there is for
domain names or trademarks.

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It says podcast directories like
Apple and Spotify don't enforce

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exclusivity.
So you can publish a show with

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the same name as another show,
as some people probably know,

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and most platforms will allow
it.

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And granted, it will probably
confuse some listeners legally.

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Well, that's just it.
Here's the another layer of the

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onion.
Yeah.

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Is that let's say we use that
name.

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I do not want my clients,
listeners to stumble upon the

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other show and think, Oh my God,
this is really terrible.

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This is not Oh no, you don't
turn it off right away.

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So if it's only on Spotify,
right, the likelihood of that

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happening is very rare because
this person's not active.

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Now it's four months or three
months later and this other

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one's not active.
So to me that would say that.

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And if he's not on any other
platform, and I think if you

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look at most statistics say that
most people listen on Apple,

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right?
I mean, so it sounds like it's

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very, very likely.
But I mean, the simple solution

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is, you know, Mastering the
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And then he's free and clear and
it'll come up in the keyword.

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I looked on Instagram and there
are 4 versions of Mastering

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Machine but none of them are
related to your particular topic

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and none of them are the guy
that is on Spotify.

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And this is also, this speaks to
branding and it's more than just

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a name.
When we're branding our podcast,

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if if you go with a very clear,
distinct brand logo, brand

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colors, a look, a feel,
etcetera, that helps make that

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distinction.
And granted, if it's a first

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time ever person stumbling on
it, they may not recognize that

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brand yet, but as if they've
come across you once, twice,

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three times, and they're
starting to get to know your

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brand and then they're looking
for it on Spotify, they'll see

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quickly.
No, that's not the one I want to

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go to this other one.
So who knows?

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And I know Dr. is probably it's
cooking time.

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She's making some eggs for the
hubby.

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Nick, I saw your hand up.
What did you want to add it?

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Seems the discoverability as
assuming that this isn't a large

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business that you're going to
compete with, which doesn't

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sound like it is having only a
trailer and an episode.

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The search aspect of it I don't
think is as big of an issue

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because you could have a name
that's similar but different.

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And if that other show was
popular, that show might still

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show up even if you type the
words of that of this client's

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show.
Exactly.

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And I tested this several times
with the AI Briefing back when I

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been keeping up with that.
And you could type in the AI

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briefing and there'd be a ton of
other options that popped up,

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like the AI brief, the brief AI
minute, the AI minute, the daily

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AI brief.
A bunch of other options showed

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up alongside of the AI briefing.
And because my show wasn't as

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popular as the others, mine
wasn't the first one that showed

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up.
So I think if mastering the

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Machine, if your client's show
is consistent, there's more

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episodes coming out, there's
going to be very little

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probability of this older show
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It might slip in there on
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but I don't think it's going to
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considering that this show isn't
active and there's clearly not a

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listener base tuning into this
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
That's it.

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I appreciate that strategy.
And I'm seeing all sorts of

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other comments here in the chat
with some suggestions about

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changing the name or Chris.
I like what Chris says.

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Chris says or you call it
Mastering the Machine with and

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you could insert the host name
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of the podcast or.
I'm a big I'm a big believer in

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the subtitle or the extension.
So we plan on having an

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extension with some keywords in
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Yeah, yeah, I think that helps
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take it a step further and get
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it as mastering the machine with
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I think that would help both
protect you and make a

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distinction between this podcast
and others.

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Alex, did you have something?
Good morning, everybody.

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In this case, I don't think it's
going to be really relevant, but

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because this podcast seems like
it's dead and seems like the

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person, the origin person or the
origin company, whatever, isn't

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that big.
But when you are naming podcasts

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or whatever, you have to be
careful because the big guys

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have people just looking to
protect their trademark.

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And I say that because my sister
had a situation where her

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website name was similar to a
brand and they got a cease and

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assist order and she was a
production company.

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She her name of her company was
6 of Balls Productions and it

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was STX and STX is also a brand
of lacrosse gear.

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And she started, it went on for
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Nothing, nothing, nothing.
All of a sudden she got a cease

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and assist from from them.
And they even said, listen,

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we're not, we're not trying to
be jerks about it.

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We have to protect our
trademark.

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So even if you suggest what
Chris said was using that with

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the person's name, that may not
be enough.

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But I mean, in this case, I
don't think it's going to be the

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situation.
But you know, I know people

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agonize over trying to pick a
name and there's reasons for

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that.
It's just that, you know,

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whether it it it fits right or
whatever else, But protecting

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your trademark is a huge deal.
And that's why they go after all

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these little guys.
And it seems like it's

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insignificant.
Like why would why would Coke go

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after me?
I'm not really, I'm not even a

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mom and pop, I'm a I'm a
solopreneur.

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That's not even profitable, but
they have to.

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And again, that's why it's so
important to look at every line

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angle.
Think of it as a baby name.

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When you pick a baby name, you
have to think of every reason a

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kid would make fun of that name.
Before you say I'm going to give

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my kid that name.
I know it sounds wacky, but

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anybody as a kid understands
what I mean.

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I think that's the biggest
problem.

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I know I may be taking it a
different way, but that's that's

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one of the things.
If we didn't go through it, I

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wouldn't really have said
anything, but it does.

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They will go after you.
Thank you Alex.

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And guess what Dr. with ChatGPT.
I was sitting here trying to see

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if it could help figure out if
the name is trademarked and it

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it's it says it's not but it did
find the same show that you're

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talking about mastering the
machine with the two Co hosts

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and and listen to this.
They have more than one episode.

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What I only saw I saw a trailer
and one episode in Spotify.

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I so it brought me to a link
called podcast dot app and found

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their show, their show page and
they have shows from they have

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want to the teaser and an
episode from February and then

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they have three episodes in
March.

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Really.
Those didn't show up in Didn't

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you look in Spotify with me?
Yes, I did.

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And there was only one, only one
in the trailer.

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Yeah, so interesting.
So and maybe it is somewhat

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private, I don't know.
I don't know what they're doing,

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but they definitely have it.
But it is not trademarked, at

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least at first glance.
It's not trademarked so.

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Adds another something that I
need to put on my list of check

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ChatGPT for titles.
I would not even.

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I wouldn't even approach that
had you not done this.

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Thank you so much.
Yeah, you're welcome.

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And, and I would say, you know,
I don't think we should ever

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trust everything that ChatGPT
tells us or an AI model similar

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to it.
But you know, it, it is a great

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way to kind of get that first
step, that first glance.

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And in this case, it, you know,
it found some stuff that we

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didn't.
So it's important to, to search

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all the angles.
And again, I still look, if it's

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me and this is not advice, This
is not, and it's certainly not

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legal advice.
If it's me, I'm moving forward

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with the name.
I don't care that there's this

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other one out there.
Yep, they especially because

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they have a tagline too.
Mastering the machine building

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systems that drive results if
yours is called mastering

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machine with your own unique
tagline.

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If it's me, I'm going forward
with it.

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That's just how I'm doing ask.
For ask for forgiveness, not

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permission.
I know Sid has his hand up but.

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Yeah.
I mean, that's a good point,

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Alex.
I can get on board with that.

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Yeah, Sid, go ahead.
So I agree with Mark, use the

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name, move on with it.
But I did look the guy up on

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LinkedIn and he's actually in
West Jerusalem, Israel.

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And there's only one image of
mastering machine and it was a

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on his LinkedIn feed and it was
a live that he cancelled, a

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LinkedIn live that he cancelled.
So he's not even talking about

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it.
And given that he's in a

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different country, DRI wouldn't
worry about it.

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I just would move forward and
and do it.

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That's just mine and take the
risk of being hit with the cease

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and desist.
Yes, because I don't think

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they're going to hit you with
that.

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And like Sid saying, I mean,
they're in another country that

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makes things a little more
tricky for them to actually be

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able to follow through on that.
So I just, I don't see it

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happening.
And again, especially if you

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have that distinction with the
tagline.

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The tag tagline, yeah.
So talking about the tagline, we

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thought of even speaking to his
niche audience, for instance,

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putting in words that only they
would know.

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For instance, PLC, which stands
for program programmable logic

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controller.
Think of of a of one of those

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little cars that ride around and
you have the remote control in

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your hand.
That would be the brains of the

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car.
So the remote control would kind

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of be Aplca little bit, but
that's something that only his

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tribe would know.
And do you name something with

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that in mind or do you name it a
more?

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Do you name it something that
more general population would

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get?
I mean, if you want to put it

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somewhere in that tagline, put
in that that that special lingo,

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go for it.
But I think it's more important

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if you're going to use a tagline
to make it very clear,

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straightforward for anybody to
see just so that it they know

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what they're getting into right
away.

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I I don't well.
With the cover art and the title

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they would pretty much.
Know.

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Yeah, I don't think that's
necessary.

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ADRI have a question, I came in
late.

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Sorry if you answered this with
this title.

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It is the website available, I
mean is the variation of the

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website available?
All the social media handles

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available.
Yeah, we did talk about that.

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We did suggest that.
And you, you said you did look

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into that, right?
If it is and there's a

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variation, you could trade as a
lot of different things, and I

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think that's the thing going to
six point, you know, just move

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on.
You could trade as a lot of

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different things and it it could
be similar, but different.

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And I think that's the the main
thing is if you have all if you

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you're building a case just like
in anything else.

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So, you know, if you have
everything that goes around

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that, I I wouldn't really worry
about it.

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And again after for forgives us
better than is than asking for

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permission.
Yeah, I just went to the URL

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mastering themachine.com.
It took me to that URL slash

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Lander and it's a big Gray page.
There's nothing on.

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It.
That's what I got too.

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Yeah, that's what I got too.
Nothing on it, yeah, but the

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domain is taken, which kind of
sucks.

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Ultimately here, I think you've
got a few options and I think

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this is I, I personally would
move forward with it.

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Anyway, to Alex's point, we can
ask for forgiveness later, but I

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just don't see it being an
issue.

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And I might take it a step
further.

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Talk to Gordon Firemark, the
podcast lawyer, and ask for some

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help to get this thing
trademarked so that you can own

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it or your.
Client know approximately how

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much a trademark is.
I don't, but I will find out for

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you.
I think it's like 250 bucks.

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Yeah, that's when I think it's
like 250 bucks.

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Yeah.
It's not that expensive.

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I did it with a brand many, many
years ago, and I use an attorney

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to do it.
So it cost me a little bit more,

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but that was it.
You just have to show proof that

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you're using it and what it's
for.

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That's awesome.
OK, yeah.

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So ChatGPT says base application
fee is $350.00.

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It says this is the standard fee
for electronically filing a

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trademark application.
And then it says potential

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additional fees, $100 per class
for applications missing

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00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,400
required information. 200 if
you're, if you use a free form

449
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,440
text description instead of
selecting goods and services.

450
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,280
So there's a few things that
might happen to make it a little

451
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,640
more expensive, but ultimately
it sounds like 250 to $350.00 to

452
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,440
get a trademark.
I think that's a an investment

453
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,760
that's well worth it.
Yeah, Dr. thank you for bringing

454
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,200
this one this morning.
Well.

455
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,800
Thank you.
I appreciate all the advice.

456
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,360
Yeah, everyone.
Hopefully it helps, yeah.

457
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,120
Every country I think has their
own deal.

458
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,320
So even if you did trade market
in the US and everything went

459
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,720
you know well he may have a
quote UN quote case, but it

460
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,800
might be, it might not be a case
because you have the trademark

461
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,360
in this country versus where he
is in Israel.

462
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,720
Yeah, that's true too.
Point.

463
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Yep, good point.
Sharon has joined us on stage.

464
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Sharon, good morning.
Did you want to add anything to

465
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,280
this?
Let's briefly talk about

466
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,840
trademarks.
I have two thus far, and the

467
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,840
first one I did, which was not
part of the two I have years

468
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,600
ago, probably around 2017.
When I did the first one, it did

469
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,920
not pass.
I did not.

470
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,680
I lost all my money and it was
about maybe when, when

471
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,200
everything was said and done
about $700.00, maybe 6:50.

472
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600
And that happened, I think
because I obviously didn't know

473
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:11,320
what I was doing #1 and #2 it's
extremely technical when it

474
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960
comes to the classes of what
you're doing.

475
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,240
So I hired a lawyer with the
first, both of them hired a

476
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,200
lawyer and it ended up costing
me about 1500.

477
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,400
And let me tell you, it was
worth every dime.

478
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,520
It was she needed my website.
She needed to see what I had on

479
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,720
my website, including the logo
and how long I was doing it,

480
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200
etcetera, etcetera.
So I don't want to dissuade

481
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,080
anybody, but I just want to tell
you my experience regarding

482
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,920
trademarks.
Sharon, I really appreciate you

483
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,640
saying that.
Thank you so much.

484
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Sure.
And Sharon, any is there a

485
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,120
specific reason why you say it
was $1500 well spent?

486
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,440
Did something happen since then
that it it helped you, protected

487
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,240
you?
No, nothing happened.

488
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,120
I think I well, I know I say
that because number one, I

489
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,680
didn't need the aggravation of
trying to figure out things.

490
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,440
Now with you, some of you, you
might have that mindset where

491
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,880
everything just clicks for you
when it comes to checking the

492
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,360
right boxes.
It did not for me.

493
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,720
So just having her do everything
and some sometimes she actually

494
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,360
got back to me and she said,
what is this thing?

495
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,520
What do you mean by this?
Make this more clear.

496
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Things like that.
I think I I say that because of

497
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,560
that Mark.
Totally makes sense.

498
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Yeah.
Thank you.

499
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Sure.
There's just a a knowing that

500
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:49,760
I'm protected, you know?
I think that Gordon Firemark, I

501
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,880
don't know this for sure and I
think that he charges a little

502
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,800
less than that than what Sharon
paid, but probably still in the

503
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,160
neighborhood of around $1000.
Don't quote me on that, but I

504
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,880
believe that's, I believe that's
around his fee is around $1000

505
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
or so.
Sid, go ahead.

506
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Thank you, Sharon for sharing
your experience.

507
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960
Mom's a little bit different,
but Mark, I do think that having

508
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,120
Gordon come back and talk about
trademarks would be a really,

509
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520
really great conversation.
Or if he talks about it at the

510
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,440
event to help bring some clarity
about whether you should or you

511
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,040
shouldn't trademark things.
If you're only doing one thing

512
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,800
with that name, probably
shouldn't do it.

513
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,960
But if you're going to build an
entire ecosystem in your

514
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,040
business around that name and
you're going to have coaching

515
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,720
programs or educational programs
or events around that name,

516
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,120
maybe you should think about
trade marking.

517
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920
So it just be interesting
conversation for him to come

518
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880
share with us about that.
I agree.

519
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,880
I agree it's been a while and
maybe we'll link to the episode

520
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,240
when he did join us a long time
ago.

521
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,560
I can't even remember if we were
actually a podcast or only live

522
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680
streaming when he joined us the
first time.

523
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,840
So if we have that episode,
Ashley, you and I may have to do

524
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,320
a little digging and if we have
it, we'll put it in there.

525
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,520
The show notes today.
If not, either way, we'll

526
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,880
definitely ask Gordon back here
and of course, have him come.

527
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,200
We'll do everything we can to
have him come to the conference

528
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,280
as well.
We're super early for Gordon.

529
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,880
He's in California.
Oh, that's true.

530
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,160
So I may have to do an exclusive
with him and then share it with

531
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,520
everybody later.
Yeah, I don't mind doing that.

532
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,520
So what I might do is coming
soon.

533
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,440
I may be asking all of you to
provide your questions for

534
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,080
Gordon and then I can take those
and do a one-on-one interview

535
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,880
with Gordon.
Great guy, by the way.

536
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,160
OK, let's see here.
Lots of great suggestions in our

537
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,840
chat.
If you are listening via podcast

538
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,920
or if you're watching via
YouTube, by the way, like my new

539
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,440
haircut.
If you are any one of those

540
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,040
things, you can, you can easily
come join us here on Clubhouse

541
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,640
and be a part of the chat, add
your own insights and see some

542
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160
of the great insights that
people share throughout the

543
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,480
morning.
I see that Dan or Heidi has

544
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,560
posted a link earlier from
there's a pod news article all

545
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,280
about dealing with the same name
and trademarks.

546
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,360
So there's lots of resources out
there, not just us.

547
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120
And I would encourage somebody,
especially with legal stuff, to

548
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,680
make sure you're exploring all
of your options and all of the

549
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,440
resources that are out there.
Can I ask is there a way to save

550
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,200
the chat or do I just have to go
on mute and type?

551
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,280
Yes, you can go back and get it
in the in the replays here on

552
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,880
clubhouse and maybe I'll even
find a way that we can include

553
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,800
it in the show notes.
Don't hold me to it, but I'll

554
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,320
see what I can do.
Otherwise I will direct people

555
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840
to where to go.
No problem.

556
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Dr. All right, so it's Friday
and we have a lot of time.

557
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,920
So I'm going to ask We've got
people here listening live in

558
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,680
the audience.
Please come up, come join us and

559
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,400
because it's time to share your
wins from this past week.

560
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,480
And as I like to remind you,
don't judge your own wins.

561
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,120
Hey, I know sometimes we hear
somebody share a win and it's

562
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,800
exciting and then we feel like,
oh, how are we going to follow

563
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,240
that up?
It doesn't matter.

564
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,080
We are all on our own journeys,
on our own paths and your win is

565
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,720
just as important as the next
person's.

566
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,240
So I would love for you guys.
I see you guys here in the

567
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760
audience.
I'm going to invite you up to

568
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,440
speak and share any win that you
have.

569
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,960
It doesn't even have to be about
your podcast, although you get

570
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
bonus points if it is about your
podcast.

571
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160
I will share podcasting related
wins as well.

572
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,520
I am stalling.
If you haven't, If you haven't

573
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,800
figured it out yet, 'cause I'm
inviting each and every one of

574
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,000
you individually to come up and
speak and share your wins from

575
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480
this past week.
Don't be shy.

576
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,680
And we thankfully have a team
that will kick things off and

577
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:01,240
maybe get the juices flowing.
By the way, Janae is here with

578
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,400
us.
Janae, I didn't think you were

579
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,960
going to be able to join us
today.

580
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,000
We are sharing our wins from the
week.

581
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,760
You're just in time and I will
kick it off since you're here,

582
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Janae, because my first win of
the week was yesterday.

583
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,440
Well, the first week I'm the
first win I'm sharing.

584
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,360
I joined Janae on his show
yesterday and we recorded 2

585
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,440
podcast episodes that I'm really
excited about and I joked with

586
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480
him at the end.
We all know Janae now and know

587
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,639
that he has dozens and dozens
and dozens of episodes that he's

588
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:37,600
recorded and hasn't released
yet.

589
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,320
He releases a couple times a
week and he still has dozens of

590
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,560
episodes.
So I joked, I said, so will this

591
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,199
episode come out in like 2
years, Three years from now and

592
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,520
we'll see.
But I think, I think he said

593
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,800
he's going to try to publish
them before the conference

594
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,000
because we did have a great talk
about the conference.

595
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,880
Hello, Janae.
Hey, good morning, everybody.

596
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Thank you, Mark.
That was that was a fun one for

597
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,000
sure.
And funny enough, right after

598
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Janae, we can't hear you.
Your connection is very poor.

599
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,600
We'll try to come back to you,
Janae, because I do want to hear

600
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,200
what you have to say.
So another win for me this past

601
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,560
week was we had our Empowered
Podcasting conference meeting

602
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,240
with our team of really all
volunteers, which I'm so

603
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,120
grateful for that everybody is
volunteering their time and

604
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,560
efforts into this conference.
And we shared revealed with that

605
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,920
group our Empowered Podcasting
Conference app that we are

606
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,920
building ourselves.
Last year we did not have an

607
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,440
event app and it was probably
the one of the only things that

608
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,680
I was disappointed about with
the event because we had lots of

609
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,680
on the fly changes that were
happening and we couldn't easily

610
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,280
communicate it.
It had we had an app that would

611
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,080
have been no problem.
We could have just sent a

612
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,720
message through the app and
people would have seen or even

613
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:04,920
if we didn't send any
notification, but if there was a

614
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120
schedule change, which there
were, we could easily make those

615
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000
adjustments on the fly and
people could see that happening

616
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,840
in real time.
So it was and also we wanted

617
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,160
something where people could
more easily connect with one

618
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,200
another.
Those apps are great for

619
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,520
networking and such.
We looked for lots of different

620
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,680
types of apps out there and we
were quoted lots of different

621
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,320
prices, all well with well past
our budget, something we could

622
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,480
not afford.
And if you are an AI enthusiast

623
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,360
like myself, you know that there
are now options out there where

624
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,000
AI will write all the code for
you and we'll create an app for

625
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,560
you.
And my operations manager of

626
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Ironic Media, who's been my
right hand person through this

627
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,280
whole thing, she decided to jump
in and try to use one of these

628
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,640
apps and just think of it as
which by the way, ChatGPT does

629
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,560
it too.
She didn't use ChatGPT.

630
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,240
She's using base 44.
But think of it the same way you

631
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:10,040
would use ChatGPT.
She literally told it, I want to

632
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,560
create an event app for our
podcasting conference.

633
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,840
She even gave it an example of
another app that we really like

634
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,840
that we would love to use, but
it's just not in our budget.

635
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,600
And boom, I mean, within a few
minutes, it had the first

636
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,400
iteration of this app that was
almost fully functional.

637
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,920
It it definitely needed some
work.

638
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
There were definitely some
things that didn't work.

639
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,160
And it's, again, just like
ChatGPT, all you got to do is

640
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,480
tell it, yeah, this isn't
working properly.

641
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,480
And it goes, it checks its own
code.

642
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,000
It fixes the code.
Or you can say, yeah, I don't

643
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,520
like the placement of this.
I want you to move it down to

644
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,840
the bottom of the page and it
does it.

645
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,120
And this thing is, I'm really
excited about it because it's

646
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,240
not costing us a lot of money
and it's going to work the same

647
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,000
way.
I think the only difference may

648
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,040
be is that we're not going to
necessarily submit it to the app

649
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,840
stores because who knows how
long that takes.

650
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,360
I, I hear it takes a long time
to get accepted, approved.

651
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,160
So we will probably do it as a
web-based app, which I'm totally

652
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,000
cool with because we know that
the Internet works great there

653
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,360
at that hotel because we were
there last year.

654
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,400
So I'm very excited about that.
If you couldn't tell.

655
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,840
Also, I had several calls with
several colleagues this week in

656
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,360
the podcast industry about their
involvement with the conference,

657
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,840
whether they're going to be
attending and speaking.

658
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,320
I already alluded to, I spoke
with Gordon Firemark, Seth

659
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,200
Silvers, who's been a guest on
this show before.

660
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,720
He I had a call with him
yesterday, lots of names that

661
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,920
are doing big things in the
industry and I couldn't be more

662
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,320
excited about that.
And lastly, really excited about

663
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,920
the fact again with Empowered
Podcasting, I've been receiving

664
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,080
several video testimonials from
people that are giving us

665
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,080
permission to put them out there
on social media.

666
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,080
We've started doing that and
those are working way more than

667
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,520
I thought they would.
They are creating some buzz.

668
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,080
We're getting more followers,
we're getting more sign ups to

669
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,960
the conference.
It's been a real success so far.

670
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,840
And if you were at the
conference and would be

671
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,920
interested in doing that as
well, doing a video testimonial,

672
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,280
please reach out to me, let me
know.

673
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,760
I'll tell you what we need.
But it's pretty simple, just

674
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,840
anything from a 15 second to
62nd testimonial of your

675
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,160
personal experience at the
conference, what you loved about

676
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,160
it.
And then we'll put it on social

677
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,760
media, tag you, add you as a
collaborator in the proper

678
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,600
platforms, etcetera.
OK.

679
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,160
I took up a lot of time and I'd
like to hear from more of you.

680
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,040
So we're going to go down the
line starting with DRDR. Please

681
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,240
share a win with us from your
week.

682
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:03,360
I have been part of a community
for quite a while now and the

683
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:09,560
creator has put in a course
within the community about

684
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920
newsletters, about e-mail
marketing.

685
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,480
And so I'm part of the, it's a
21 day challenge and I'm part of

686
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,160
the challenge and.
So I feel good about that.

687
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,160
And the course that he has
created is very good, really

688
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,840
short videos and there's a
workbook that goes with it and

689
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,400
it goes into detail and so it's
very good.

690
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:35,400
My only challenge I'm putting
this out to everyone in the room

691
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:44,040
is trying to understand how I
marry my domain name and my

692
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,000
e-mail platform together.
I think I need help in that, but

693
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,280
that's about it.
There's something technical that

694
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,640
I have to do with the the domain
or something?

695
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,120
So Dr. Yeah, I do know what
you're talking about.

696
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:02,320
And I think that you didn't
cross paths with a somebody who

697
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,160
used to be more involved joining
us regularly in the mornings

698
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,640
more when we were live streaming
versus live streaming and

699
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,120
podcasting.
Her name is Mallory Mallory

700
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Durek and she she helps me with
some of my websites and she'd

701
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,960
probably be a great person to
connect you with.

702
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,160
Oh, thank you, yes, very much.
And also, Mark, I wanted to just

703
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,800
do a shout out for you.
I've seen your recent posts that

704
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,640
you did with the talking babies.
I love them.

705
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,800
I didn't want to let that go
unnoticed.

706
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,760
Thank you.
You know, I, for whatever

707
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,840
reason, avoided that trend and
I'm just looking for fun ways to

708
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,960
put out our content and get
attention while I'm doing it it.

709
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,680
And so yeah, it this Riverside
has added some of those filters

710
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,120
where you can make yourself a
baby, make yourself look like a

711
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,680
puppet.
I did that one and that one just

712
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,200
came out really freaky looking.
I posted it anyway because why

713
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,800
not?
And there's all sorts of other

714
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,480
animations that you can do for
yourself.

715
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,800
You can turn yourself into all
sorts of different things,

716
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,000
including I think a panda bear
as well.

717
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,960
So I'm just playing around with
those.

718
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,920
And it was actually a teaser.
It's what I do when I first go

719
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,120
live before I go live on
Clubhouse.

720
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,920
I go live on YouTube and give a
little teaser to that live

721
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,080
audience.
And that was the clip that you

722
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,440
saw was my what me speaking to
the live YouTube audience.

723
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,800
Thank you for the shout out, Dr.
Let's go to Ashley.

724
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,800
Ashley, good morning again.
Please share Win and with us

725
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,040
from your week.
Hey y'all, always.

726
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,720
Led to be a pad to bear, you
know.

727
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,720
My win for this week is that I
got to work on my own podcast,

728
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,480
Sunshine State Showcase.
One of my clients, she was

729
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,160
supposed to have a guest
appearance this week that ended

730
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,880
up falling through, so I was
left with a big chunk of time

731
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,800
like.
Well, what do I?

732
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,680
Do I'll work on my own podcast.
So that's what I did and that's

733
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,400
my win for the week.
Congratulations, love hearing

734
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,800
that you're back at it with the
podcast.

735
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,760
I know you have become very busy
with your clients stuff, so it's

736
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,840
cool to hear that you've found
some time to do that.

737
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,000
Sid, we're coming to you.
Please share wins with us from

738
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,280
your week.
I have a podcast that goes live

739
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,240
on Monday that's my guest.
The website link has already

740
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:22,200
posted it so people are already
listening to it through my

741
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,280
website but that's a risk.
I did not tell her not to post

742
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,160
it.
But anyways, I, I was really

743
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,080
worried about that episode and I
told my editor like, go ahead

744
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,800
and do your thing and then put
it up on but but not listen to

745
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,160
it.
So I've blocked out some time so

746
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,200
I could listen to it.
And I had a notepad with me, my

747
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,440
pen ready to write down the time
stamps where we need to edit it.

748
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Because I felt like it was going
to be really weird because my

749
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,440
Rd. caster crashed out in the
middle of the recording.

750
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,240
So we had to stop 1 recording
and start another recording.

751
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,480
And so she had two recordings to
put together.

752
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,040
So it was honestly just a
cluster of a recording.

753
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,440
So I wasn't feeling really good
about it.

754
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,680
And then I listened to it and I
was like, Dang, this is actually

755
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,880
really good.
It came together really nice.

756
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,600
So that's a huge win.
I will do an anticipation when

757
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,720
next week is a big event in the
furniture industry called Neo

758
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,400
Con starts on Monday.
I leave tomorrow morning headed

759
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,360
up and it's an opportunity for
us to talk about our new

760
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,640
business and meet people.
I got a crazy field schedule so

761
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,880
I will not be here Monday
through Wednesday of next week,

762
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,920
but I'm super excited about this
event and seeing all the long

763
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,800
time friends and new friends and
getting what I refer to as

764
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,560
hallway hugs.
So good forward to to that.

765
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,680
So that's my anticipation when
for the week.

766
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:39,120
And I love it.
Thank you, Sid.

767
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000
And will this be one of the
conferences that you're going to

768
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,120
be wearing your Ask Me About My
Podcast shirt?

769
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,440
I'm taking it with me and tend
to wear it on Wednesday, which

770
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,520
is really the quiet today of the
show, but it's also the day you

771
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,080
actually really get to have two
real conversations.

772
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,320
Monday is the crazy day of the
show and then Tuesday people

773
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,360
start leaving and then Wednesday
it's a little bit more quiet.

774
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,200
So I'm going to wear it on
Wednesday, please.

775
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Please get a picture, we'd love
to see it and we'll do.

776
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Isn't it interesting to?
I've certainly been there with

777
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,920
this show and other podcasts
where I feel like that was not

778
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,600
good and I don't know if I want
this to go out and then I go

779
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,640
back and listen and I'm like,
oh, wait, I was wrong.

780
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,520
It's great.
I wonder what it is about that,

781
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,880
why we sometimes judge it so
hard and then we go back and

782
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,360
listen and then we're really
proud of it.

783
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,920
I don't know, I'm just talking
out loud, but I just find that

784
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,640
interesting when that happens.
Sharon, good morning again.

785
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,240
Do you want to share some wins
with us?

786
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Well, yes, I will.
Mark, May I just mention one

787
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,120
thing, please?
Regard.

788
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,360
Trademarks, I wanted to revisit
that again.

789
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,280
Someone said something and I was
like, oh, I forgot to say that

790
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:53,680
before COVID, it took about a
year to get my get trademarks

791
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,160
Now it's averaging about 18
months.

792
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Wow, yes, yes.
And my lawyer said that that was

793
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,400
because of just some changes and
some things that are done

794
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,560
differently.
Now I have no idea what those

795
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,160
are, so I just wanted to say
that.

796
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,720
OK, I.
Appreciate that.

797
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:20,520
Thank you.
Problem Dr. OK, my win is this.

798
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,840
I am having a challenge on
Clubhouse.

799
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,280
I've been having this challenge,
it's called the five day stage

800
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,000
speaking challenge, and it is
every month.

801
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,120
What I decided to do is change
it to Zoom.

802
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,080
I think that's a win.
Let me tell you why, because

803
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,920
Clubhouse is changing things up
and no problem with that.

804
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,440
If it's benefiting us, if it's
for the good.

805
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:52,160
Regarding the anonymous avatars
that were that you can use to

806
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,440
get into rooms, Mark, you
actually have someone listening

807
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,200
and on the bottom of your screen
anonymously.

808
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,720
And I don't even see that.
I know you don't until you get

809
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,640
the.
Upgrade I see, but.

810
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,440
This is the thing with that.
Well, let me tell you about my

811
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,960
win, OK, Anyway, what I decided
to do was take that challenge

812
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,440
off of Clubhouse and go to Zoom
because I don't like that

813
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,400
anonymous thing there.
And to me that's a win because

814
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,440
if it were the old Sharon, I
would have overthought it over

815
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,720
or overthinking, overthinking,
overthinking.

816
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,120
Not to do it, not to do it.
So just the shift in the mindset

817
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,280
for me is a win.
So I'm going to celebrate.

818
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,880
I appreciate hearing that
because I debate every so often

819
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,280
whether or not we move from
clubhouse to the, the new app

820
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,320
chatter, because it's got a lot
of bells and whistles that I'm

821
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,680
really excited about.
Now, I think my, I have a

822
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,920
legitimate reason why I don't
quite pull the trigger yet.

823
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,200
Well, I have many, but one is,
is I don't feel like they've

824
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,920
gotten all the bugs worked out
yet.

825
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,160
So I'd rather wait until that's
taken care of.

826
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,960
But also the other reason is, is
that I, I, I don't want to rock

827
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,240
the boat.
We have a great community that

828
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:05,440
we've built here.
It doesn't grow as much as I'd

829
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,760
like it to because I don't think
Clubhouse is growing as much as

830
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,000
I'd like it to.
But I don't like to rock the

831
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,200
boat with, with a community
that's in a place that they feel

832
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,880
very comfortable.
I appreciate you sharing that

833
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,840
because I am an overthinker,
especially when it comes to

834
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,240
stuff like that.
I'm going to jump the line real

835
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:25,800
quick because Janae is back and
we're going to try again.

836
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,720
And yeah, he's waving his hand,
so let's check in with him.

837
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,840
Janae, let's hear your
connection.

838
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Is it any better?
Oh yeah.

839
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Oh yeah.
He's in the studio now.

840
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Good morning, everyone.
Yeah, so prayers ended early.

841
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,800
So I was like, oh, I have still
time to jump in.

842
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,760
And it was a fun conversation
yesterday.

843
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,200
So that's my win for the week as
well.

844
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,880
And on top of that, a friend of
mine who runs these big events,

845
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,920
he's doing another one in
August.

846
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,160
And he's like, hey, I was
thinking, what if you do a

847
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,080
master podcast mastermind At the
end of my event, I'm like.

848
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,520
Oh, that's an awesome idea.
So we're working on putting that

849
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,600
together.
It's in.

850
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,440
It's going to be sometime in
August as well.

851
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,200
But yeah, super excited for all
the amazing wins everybody's

852
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,280
shared.
And Mark, I love the idea of the

853
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,920
app.
I was actually telling my son

854
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,560
check out BASE 44 because he's
been thinking of building some

855
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,680
apps as well.
Oh, yeah.

856
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,200
I bet kids will come up with
some great ideas for apps.

857
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,360
That's a that's such a great
idea, Janae, sharing it with

858
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,120
your kids.
And I'm going to share a win of

859
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,480
yours.
You celebrated a birthday this

860
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,120
week, got lots of birthday
messages.

861
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,720
I know this because we talked
about it off offline and and

862
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,680
yeah, so happy belated birthday
again to you, Janae.

863
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,240
All right, we're going to go
back in line and check in with

864
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:48,480
Jackie, who we haven't talked to
a lot or at all this week.

865
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,760
Jackie, good morning.
Do you want to share some wins

866
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,160
with us?
Good morning everybody.

867
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,240
I know I'm like a ghost in here
lately.

868
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,800
Sorry.
I literally work at this time

869
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,320
almost every day of the week.
So I get it.

870
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,400
I jump in when I can.
So my wins.

871
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,600
I just revisited all of my
podcasting platforms, I guess

872
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,080
you can say for the first time
in weeks because I've been

873
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,160
insane and it's actually not
doing bad for me.

874
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,320
Not posting forever.
And I laugh because like, I have

875
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,320
really been out of it, guys.
Like I really have been.

876
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,480
And I miss being in here.
Trust me.

877
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Like I still promote it.
I think maybe that's why even I

878
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,800
work at Orangetheory, I'm a
coach and I tell everybody about

879
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,960
it.
And I keeps, I mean, I just saw

880
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,360
all of my stuff is up even
higher than it was the last time

881
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,480
I looked.
And so that's proof right there

882
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,280
that if you keep, if you have
the Evergreen content, it'll

883
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,560
grow.
Even.

884
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,680
Just with word of mouth, Oh, my
son wants orange juice.

885
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,200
But when of the week I taught my
first solo class next week, I

886
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,600
have 17 classes going on and I
am so excited.

887
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,200
And it is teaching me so much
more about speaking, so much

888
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,600
more about coming from my heart,
authenticity.

889
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,920
I'm so excited to put it on my
podcast when it comes back out

890
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,120
within the next couple months
when life starts to give me time

891
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,760
again.
But yeah, just wanted to get up

892
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,040
here, show my face again, tell
everybody I miss you so much.

893
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,240
I am still here.
I'm just working my butt off and

894
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,440
where I can't.
Oh, another win.

895
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,280
I think I got a job at a salon.
So I'm going back to doing hair

896
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,680
everybody.
Nice.

897
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,400
So back to doing hair.
Also now a coach at

898
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,320
Orangetheory.
You're doing all the things,

899
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,640
Jackie.
Congratulations.

900
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,200
Leveling up here, Yes, I am.
And next is leveling up that

901
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:53,000
podcast and I'm going to level
it up in a way that I will tell

902
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,640
you about when it's ready.
So yay.

903
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,840
Awesome.
Well, good to hear your voice.

904
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,840
Thanks for being here.
Thanks for making time and let's

905
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,840
keep it moving.
Let's go to Dan.

906
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Dan, good morning to you.
Please share some wins with us.

907
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,360
Good morning.
So I'll be brief today.

908
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,960
Thank you.
By the way, So I was able to

909
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,320
acquire a new executive coaching
client this week.

910
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,800
So that's pretty exciting.
And I learned how to ride A1

911
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,960
wheel this week, which isn't
something I had on the agenda.

912
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,320
So it's been a fun week.
Nice, and you saw a big sea

913
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,480
turtle.
Oh yeah, there was a nice sea

914
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,200
turtle on the beach yesterday
morning.

915
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,600
She'd come up to lay her eggs a
bit later than normal, so it's

916
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:41,560
nesting season here and they're
normally in the night time hours

917
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,400
or before sunrise.
But she was right at sunrise and

918
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,240
we were able to watch her return
to the ocean.

919
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,880
Yeah, so cool.
Dan shared that video with me

920
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,320
personally, and I saw you put it
on social media as well.

921
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,400
Very cool, Dan.
Thank you for sharing that with

922
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,000
me too, by the way.
Let's see.

923
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,120
Oh, Julie is on stage.
Julie, good morning to you.

924
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,840
Welcome.
Do you want to share some wins

925
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,040
with us?
I do.

926
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,520
Thank you for having me.
It's just Janae left, I guess.

927
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,920
Yeah.
Well, I think he shared.

928
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,520
But I think then he had to go.
Oh, I know.

929
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,680
I wanted to say thank you to him
because I really had such an

930
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,440
amazing experience this week.
I'm so excited about it.

931
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:21,320
My podcast is called Stay on
Course Ingredients for Success

932
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,080
and I normally tape right in my
house.

933
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:29,080
And yesterday I did my first
live in person podcast at

934
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,520
Bourbon Steak in Delray Beach
and I interviewed the executive

935
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,560
chef and we did a live podcast
and I interviewed him.

936
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,440
We did like a tape, tasted food
and everything.

937
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,720
So like there's this whole food
segment in there.

938
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,720
I'm so excited about it.
I call it my Scenes from the

939
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:47,760
Table.
It's going to be a special

940
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,840
series that I'm going to start,
you know, intertwine with my

941
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,600
podcast.
So I'm so excited about it.

942
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,840
Big win for me this week.
Thank you.

943
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,320
Yeah, you're welcome.
And I just have to tease for a

944
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,440
second.
Did you just say tape that you

945
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,320
taped it?
Sorry, I I I recorded it on my

946
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,960
iPhone.
I don't even know what to say

947
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,080
about that.
Languaging, I'm telling you

948
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,280
that's what I was going to ask
you.

949
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,840
What, what technical?
I mean, what equipment did you

950
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,360
use to do that live?
And you just said it was on your

951
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,720
iPhone.
Yeah, we used the iPhone, but I

952
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:23,920
also had my regular camera, my
my good camera with me and like

953
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,960
a, a microphone on top.
But Janae told me that I should

954
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,480
use my iPhone with Rode.
You know, the Rode, the wireless

955
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,240
mics, the wireless mics.
So we had two wireless handheld

956
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,040
mics to the iPhone.
That's really what we meet.

957
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,120
We taped it on a taped it.
We, what do I say recorded?

958
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:46,920
We recorded it on the iPhone.
And yes, see, everybody knows

959
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,520
how old I am now.
So that's don't accept that.

960
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Don't accept that judgment of
use of the word tape.

961
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,040
You do you do you.
All right, thank you.

962
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,640
I mean, the bottom line is that
we were live, you know, and we

963
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,760
were at a restaurant.
We we created a really nice

964
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,680
relationship with these guys.
Like Mark Wahlberg was at the

965
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,960
restaurant twice in the month of
May.

966
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,960
So he's in the same room.
He's got video on his Instagram

967
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,080
in the same room that we did our
recording in.

968
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,800
And it was just like, it was a
very different experience.

969
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,360
So this week was crazy.
I also was interviewed on TV

970
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,800
this week.
So like I was live, I had to

971
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,160
have hair and makeup done.
I felt like a little bit like a

972
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,240
a mild celebrity this week, but
it was really fun.

973
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:38,720
And now I have to get get on a a
zoom call and get back to work.

974
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:42,440
So thanks everybody.
So, so cool that Mark Wahlberg

975
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,080
taped in the same place that you
taped.

976
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,080
Yes, Mark Wahlberg taped in the
same.

977
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,560
I'm going to like, now that's
going to be my new thing.

978
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,080
I'm just going to be taping
everywhere.

979
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,560
I'm only teasing you, I think,
because just like I think it was

980
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,040
just within this past week, my
wife used the same terminology.

981
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,280
I think she said something about
videotaping and I was I said,

982
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,680
whoa, what?
What era are you in right now?

983
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,120
That's OK.
That's us Gen.

984
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,440
Xers.
That's our lingo.

985
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,000
I get it.
I'm just having fun with you,

986
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,240
Julie.
All right, I'm going to Brian.

987
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:15,000
Brian, good morning.
Would you like to share a win

988
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,280
from your week?
Good morning, Mark.

989
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,080
Yes, I did see your hair cut.
I briefly checked.

990
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,600
YouTube.
Nice, thank you for checking.

991
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:31,480
When was yesterday?
So I finally made it out of New

992
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,840
Jersey without immediate family
as an adult.

993
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,320
I went to a conference yesterday
with my director.

994
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,560
In New York we took the train.
I was there for a few, just a

995
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,880
few hours.
It was not an all day thing, It

996
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,080
was just during the morning and
got to see Times Square and.

997
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,600
We had a nice.
Hotel so I'm feeling more

998
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,440
comfortable with the train
thing.

999
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:02,080
Still battling my mom a bit with
some things with regards to

1000
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:08,240
planning stuff out and other
life things, but it's just part

1001
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,800
of life.
So that's what I have to share.

1002
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,440
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Brian,

1003
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,920
congratulations on your wins and
sounds like a cool experience

1004
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,680
and I appreciate you sharing it
with us.

1005
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:24,240
OK gang, listen, we are done for
the week and back on Monday as

1006
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,360
we are every Monday through
Friday at 7:00 AM Eastern live

1007
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,360
on Clubhouse, live on YouTube.
Please come join us.

1008
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,480
And if you can't, that's OK.
Just go check out the podcast

1009
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,280
replay.
We put it out just a few hours

1010
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,920
later.
So please join us and until

1011
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,920
Monday, make it a great weekend.
Everybody take care.