The Real Story Inside Your Spotify Wrapped
Today we take a closer look at Spotify Wrapped... the fun parts, the confusing parts, and the slightly uncomfortable data-awareness parts. We dig into creator stats, talk about whether these numbers actually matter, and explore the bigger conversation around how much data platforms like Spotify collect from us as creators and listeners. The team joins in with their own Wrapped surprises, frustrations, and questions, and we wrap things up with our Friday tradition: Wins of the Week from across the community.
Episode Highlights:
[00:05] Kicking off the episode and introducing today’s focus on Spotify Wrapped
[02:27] Creator reactions, badges, and what these stats actually represent
[07:29] Surprising (and questionable) growth numbers across the team
[13:05] What Spotify Wrapped reveals about data collection and listener tracking
[15:15] The walled-garden analytics problem for podcasters
[20:50] How much data is too much? Navigating privacy trade-offs
[26:54] Wrapping the data discussion and moving into community wins
[43:40] Final thoughts and what’s coming next week
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Good morning, podcasting morning
chat.
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Today is Friday, December 5th,
2025, and today Spotify Wrapped
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brings its mix of insights and
emotions, and we're breaking it
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down together with you sharing
your highlights and us revealing
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a few of ours.
Plus, we'll share our wins from
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the past week.
So if you're listening live on
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Clubhouse, hit the share button
top right hand side of the
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screen and share it.
However, Clubhouse lets you.
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And if you're catching us via
podcast, chatter, YouTube,
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please share this episode with a
fellow podcaster.
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And now give us about 30
seconds.
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We'll get things rolling.
Thanks for being here.
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Good morning again podcasting.
Morning Chad.
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Thanks so much for being here.
I am your host Mark Ronick and
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currently on stage with me.
My Co hosts we have Ralph Estep,
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Dr. Faye, Jonathan Howard, Matt
Bliss and I know Nick Nolbach
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will be joining us in just a
moment.
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I say that just because we were
literally just texting about
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today's show and also invite BC
up because I know BC wants to be
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a part of the conversation too.
It's Friday, gang.
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So like I said, yes, we let's
talk a little bit about Spotify
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Wrapped.
And of course, let's also share
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wins from the week toward the
end of the show because it's
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Friday and that's what we do.
And Spotify Wrapped is
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definitely something that is
huge every year, at least when I
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say that, I just mean it is
commonly shared across all
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social media platforms.
People are very proud to share
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both their Spotify Wrapped for
creator results and also as a
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Spotify user, those Spotify
Wrapped results.
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So I today I want to explore a
couple of sides of it, right?
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There's the excitement side and
I want to, I, I'm excited to
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share a few things about our
Spotify wrapped.
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If anybody else is excited to
share anything or, and I'll,
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I'll ask you some questions
about it.
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But if you have something you're
excited about, you want to share
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as far as your results go, let's
talk about that.
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But there's also this other side
that when speaking with the team
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yesterday about today's topic, a
few people expressed, I mean,
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concern might be strong, but for
lack of better word, they
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expressed some concerns about
the fact that this really is
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revealing as far as Spotify is
concerned that they have all of
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this different data on us as
users, as creators, etcetera,
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how we use their app, what
things were listening and
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watching on their app.
So we're going to get into that
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too.
I have some questions about
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that, but first I'm, I'm
curious.
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I'll you know what I'm going to,
I'm going to start, but I'm
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going to ask you all to share.
To start off, what's 1 wrapped
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statistic once one wrapped badge
that they gave you that maybe
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surprised you And the way you do
this, I'm not going to take you
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through every step to get to
your wrapped information, but
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you do have to go log into
creators.spotify.com to get it.
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And you'll find it on the left
hand side there.
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And once you click it on the
left hand side, you'll, it'll
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give you a splash page.
You, you hit the I don't know
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what it is, Let's go button to
get your results, but I put the
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top right before you even hit
that let's go button.
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There's a little share button
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overall summary.
You'll see a a list of different
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badges that you've earned.
So I'll tell you one result that
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surprised me.
This is about growth.
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And the reason why it surprised
me, it surprised me is for two
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reasons.
One, the total audience growth
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percentage for the podcasting
morning chat was a number that
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just seems unfathomable.
What's that?
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DRI said.
It's unbelievable if you can't.
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Yes, thank you.
Yeah, the old Porky Pig
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strategy.
Yes, got it.
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Why the result surprised me is
'cause it's so ridiculously
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high, and I'll share it in a
second.
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And I've seen several creators
share the exact same result,
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which is 999% total audience
growth.
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And the fact that I've seen not
just one other person, I've seen
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multiple people share, hey, look
at this.
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My total audience growth is 999%
increased.
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So to me, it almost feels like a
glitch or it just feels like
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something's weird.
One thing that did not surprise
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me is our most popular episode
of 2025.
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It didn't and it probably
doesn't surprise you either if
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you are a listener at all from
this past year.
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The Steve from Blue's Clues is
back with a podcast.
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That's the title episode 329.
That one was huge for us and I,
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I know it gave us, I think we
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episode alone.
So some other things about our
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growth, our total new audience
grew to about 2000 new audience
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members.
Listening time increased 268%.
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Now the, the interesting thing
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we can start talking about some,
some of this, the fact that
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everybody, well, let's talk
about it.
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Does anybody have any concerns
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You know, the Spotify for me is
not my top platform.
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So I, I guess I have to take
some of this with a grain of
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salt, right?
Like, sure, it's cool to see
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that I'm having a lot of growth
on Spotify, but putting it into
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perspective, it's probably my
third.
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I have to go back and look, but
I think it's somewhere around my
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third or fourth most commonly
used platform if I think it's
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third.
So, you know, it's like, what
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what do we do with this
information?
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To me, sometimes it does.
It's a little bit of, of a, of a
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brag.
And I, I did it too, right?
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It's fun to share with the
public like, hey, look at some
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of these numbers.
But you know what, is it really
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that important?
Does anyone want to share any
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results that they had?
OK, let's go to Nick.
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Nick, go ahead.
Hey.
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Good morning, everybody.
Yeah, I went through it.
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I obviously the AI briefing was
the show that I got the Spotify
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Wrapped deal on.
So I was curious be that it was
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a totally AI show that kind of
yeah, results that came out of
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it.
And just real quick, why don't
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you get give just a quick
synopsis of the show first for
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new listeners?
It's basically an all AI show.
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It's AI generated AI, voice, AI,
everything, and it is all about
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AI news.
So it was just highlighting some
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of the most recent updates and
advancements in AI.
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It was a quick three to five
minute Daily Show ran it for
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probably 120 a 130 episodes
before just kind of stopping.
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But I I did it more as an
experiment and it actually got
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decent results.
Like I was very surprised by the
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number of listeners, the viewers
on YouTube.
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It was kind of a cool little
experiment.
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Thank you, Nick.
Now go ahead.
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I was going to say for for the
Spotify Wrapped, one of the
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interesting things that popped
up for me was that it said your
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average rating was higher than
75% of other shows.
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Oh, that's.
Cool.
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Which sounds neat, but I I'm
really curious.
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Like it doesn't tell you
anything about where it gets
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that data.
Like how is it coming to that
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conclusion?
Because I didn't have like a
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huge audience on Spotify.
YouTube was definitely the, the
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platform for me with that show.
So is it because I'd get a, a
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thumbs up or a, a like on an
episode?
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And that was the only one it
got.
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So it was 100% approval rating
on the episode.
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And all the people that have
more audience get like less
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react.
I, I don't know.
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It's, it's kind of an
interesting stat to me.
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I'm curious how I'd get to it.
Yeah.
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Yeah, I that that's the kind of
those are the kind of thoughts
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that go through my head too when
I look at these results as
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especially like I said to to the
point earlier, the fact that,
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you know, it's not the most
commonly used platform among our
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audience.
So, yeah.
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All right, let me go to.
All right, Jonathan.
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So yeah, that was one that I I
got for coffee.
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Social fan favorite.
So your average rating was
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higher than 67% of other shows.
And I was like, OK, that's
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great, but what does that even
mean?
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And the other one was a most
talked about show.
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You receive more comments than
87% of other shows.
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And I was like, OK, that's an
interesting, but I don't know
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where that comes from.
And Spotify is fifth in line for
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us for coffee Social.
Tell me that stat again.
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The right before the the one
about being 5th.
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Yep.
It's called a 2025 talked about
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show and you receive more
comments than 87% of other
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shows.
Got it.
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OK.
Yeah.
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And right.
So putting into perspective
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again though, like Jonathan, do
you think really like off the
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top of your head, how many
comments do you can you recall
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that you've had over the past
year on Spotify specifically?
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Yeah, I.
Yeah, I maybe, maybe I had no
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idea because I got maybe a
handful, Yeah.
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I got the same kind of thing
too.
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I'm trying to find it now, but
yeah, I had this a similar
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result.
Yeah.
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It was like, I'll just say it
was said that we were one of the
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most talked about shows.
I think that's the statistic.
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that's probably because of,
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again, that Steve from Blue's
Clues episode that we did,
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because I know I got a ton of
comments over there.
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So it, again, it just feels a
little skewed sometimes.
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Ralph, did you want to share any
results that you had?
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Sure.
And, and honestly, I've never
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really paid that much attention
to Spotify.
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So I dropped into my Captivate
because that's what I put on my
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shoes on because I wanted to
figure out what was my
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percentage of Spotify in the 1st
place.
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And it's like 1 or 2% of my
audience.
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But then I said, OK, well, let
me go look at this.
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I looked at it, my big take away
it's going to you're going to
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laugh is because I started doing
the show back in 2017.
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It was called Ask Ralph, my
originally Daily Show.
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So that's what I'm talking
about.
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My most watched show this year
was a show I did like 6 years
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ago on FASFA for people getting
their kids into college to FASFA
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form.
Which kind of just floored me
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because if anybody went through
that, the audio was horrible.
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My ability to talk was terrible,
but I'm like, wow, they actually
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picked it up.
I guess the one thing I took
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away from it was the last stat
they showed me as a come some
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sort of rising star or something
said that my show grew by 97%
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more than everybody else.
And I was like, OK, but if you
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start with two listeners and
you're now at three, I guess,
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you know, you did great.
So I don't really know what to
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take of that mark, to be honest
with you.
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But hey, it's data.
You know, we love data,
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especially the accountants.
We love data, but I'm not sure
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what to do with it.
Yeah.
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For me, what I'm taking away is
when I'm seeing those growth
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benchmarks like you're talking
about, to me, that's probably
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the most valuable number to me
because that's all.
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A lot of the other stuff, as
we've said, kind of almost feels
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like fluff or just feels a
little that the perspective
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feels a little off.
But yeah, when I'm looking at
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those metrics and they're
showing me improvement in growth
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year over year that that I'm not
going to just kind of walk away
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from that.
That's something that's got a
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little weight to it.
It's good to see.
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Yeah, Nick, go ahead.
One of my biggest takeaways out
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of all of this is not even
specific to my show.
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Let's do it.
Clearly they are collecting a
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lot of data and a lot of
information and they have this
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at their disposal.
So why are the Spotify for
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podcasts or analytics still?
That is a great point.
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Yes.
They clearly have a lot of data,
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a lot more data than they
actually show us as creators, I
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think.
Yeah, Matt, what did you want to
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say?
You have to pay Nick, you got to
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pay money, you got to pay $99.00
a month or whatever it is for
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Megaphone to get access to all
of the good stuff.
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Because that's that's the scope
creep that we've been seeing
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with Spotify over the last
probably three to four years is
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they've sunsetted functions,
they've moved aspects of Spotify
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for creators previously, Spotify
for podcasters previously Anchor
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from it into other areas that
are paid sections.
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They've moved into video and
provided ways for you to pay
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them more money to advertise and
broadcast your content across
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their platform.
It's full wall garden scenario
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here, like where if you're not
paying for something with them,
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you're on the outside trying to
look through really fogged up
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windows to see what's going on
on the inside.
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And this is the one time of the
year where they step back and
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they go, hey, we've been seeing
you walking around the walls
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like trying to rub the fog away
and peer on the inside.
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This is what we can tell you
about what you were wearing on
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which particular day.
It's Spotify is going to be
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really interesting to keep an
eye on for all of this stuff.
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It was my immediate thought when
I saw the rap stuff start coming
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out and a bunch of other apps do
it too.
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YouTube I I pay for YouTube
Premium and that's where my rapt
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information comes from.
But at the end of the day, it's
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about companies controlling and
having data.
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But like this is this is the how
to describe it best.
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This is the the piece meal
offering in order for them to
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keep doing what they're doing
and appease you by telling you
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things that you want to hear,
like Spotify for creators.
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It's telling you information
about your show that makes you
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feel good about continuing to
have it on Spotify.
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Yeah.
Whereas if you knew how much
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information they actually had,
and this is just going to be the
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the tippy top of the surface of
that kind of thing, then you
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wouldn't want them to do it
anymore.
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And they've been obscuring it
for a long time, mostly because
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Google has been procuring
information and data for maybe
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15 years.
And it's only recently the idea
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of being a control of our own
information that it's kind of
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surfaced.
And they've stopped talking
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about how much they can offer if
if you're not paying money,
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you're giving them data.
And I think they're trying to
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hide as much as they can.
That is.
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That is Matt Bliss's rant for
the day.
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We can revisit that if you want,
but I think I covered all my
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points there.
Yeah.
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Thank you for sharing that.
Yeah, go ahead, Jonathan.
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Can I say that even the way that
Matt described that was creepy?
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Like, what do you mean hearing
inside the windows?
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Hearing inside the slightly
foggy windows?
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Like looking at what you're
wearing.
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It's.
Creepy.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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No, I I agree.
Well, I'm thinking maybe when I
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edit this show later on today
that I would like some kind of a
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musical bed underneath Matthew.
Kind of that creepy sound.
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The Hexicord?
Exactly.
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Yes, there you go.
And maybe when I describe
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rubbing the windows you get like
a.
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Oh, accepted.
There.
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Wow, did you just do that with
your mouth?
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That's crazy.
I don't want to sound
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conspiratorial at all because I
am not the kind of person who
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puts a sticky note on top of the
webcam on my laptop just in case
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when I've stepped away from the
computer.
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But if I like, you know, listen
to music in the shower or
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something, I always make sure to
tip the phone upside down so
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that there's no camera facing
into the bathroom while it's
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happening.
But we just have to realize that
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there's a lot more information
that we're putting out there
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than we think we are or the
companies would have us think
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that we are.
And it's creepy.
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Let me ask, I know that BC has
something too, but let me ask
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why?
Why is that a problem?
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Or what makes that a problem is
the better way to ask.
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And that's, that's the framing
device, right?
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Like it I think in the in the
broad context, understanding
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that they have all this
information about us is
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important.
But I don't think it's important
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enough for us to get our picket
signs out, stand in front of
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whatever Spotify headquarters we
can get access to and say,
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release my data, stop tracking
my lessons because it at the.
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End.
So, Matt, when does it get to be
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that point though?
Well, it doesn't because we're
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all bored into late stage
capitalism and we don't get the
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things that we want without
having to give a little bit
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back.
And so being in capitalism,
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being in the late stage that we
are, where technology is
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integrated into every aspect of
your life, I mean, we just have
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to accept that this is a fact of
life, that our data is going
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places.
As long as we're cognizant of
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where the data is going, it's
fine.
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But we get benefits for that.
So why does it matter?
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I don't think it does really,
but it doesn't mean that we
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ignore understanding where our
data is at any one time and
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where it's going and the
potential.
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So we don't ignore it.
We understand it, but also we
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enjoy it.
Just wanted to say real quick
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and and Jonathan, hold on to
your seat.
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The number one music artist
listened to by the podcasting
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morning chat audience on
Spotify.
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Taylor Swift.
Taylor Swift.
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Let me guess, Taylor Swift?
Yes, Yep, Taylor.
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Swift, but she was second.
She.
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Was second.
She wasn't the first one for the
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world this year.
Oh, really?
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She was behind Bad.
Yeah, she was behind Bad Bunny.
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Well, she's number one in the
podcasting morning chat
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audience's heart and Jonathan's
I.
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And I think Nick is right.
I think Jonathan is the one that
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really skewed that number for
us.
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And BC I know you've been
waiting patiently, is there
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anything you'd like to add to
this conversation?
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Well, before I was simply going
to say that, you know, it kind
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of goes back to those instances
when if you have an Alexa at
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home and you're minding your own
business, you have any
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conversations with your friends
and your family, and then it
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kind of agrees with you, makes a
little chime in the background.
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It's like, sorry, I didn't
invite you to the conversation.
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But then going back to what
Matthew was talking about too,
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you know, if we do, we do we
even establish what if there's a
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line that you know?
Differentiates between the data
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that we feel that certain
platforms should have and then
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at what point does it get
invasive?
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Do we even define that anymore?
And then if we find those
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moments where we feel it has
done invasive, what do we do to
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change it?
You know, kind of like what
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Matthew was saying, we're kind
of we've bought into it.
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So does it matter or how much do
we think it should matter
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compared to how much we enact on
that feeling of being invaded?
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Any thoughts, Matt, do you want
to respond to that or Jonathan
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or Jonathan first?
So I'm going to, I'll go to him.
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Go ahead, Jonathan.
Yeah, so, and I was actually
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going to respond to Dave as well
when because he says Facebook
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has just as much data.
So is it false outrage?
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You know, it's I wouldn't say
that I'm outraged over it
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because I buy in like like Matt
said, I buy into this.
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I know how much my Google has.
I know.
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But there's also things that I
do like I don't turn on location
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services for a lot of the apps
out there because I it doesn't
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need it.
And I try not to have it on for,
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you know, my phone 100% of the
time either, even though it is
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on quite a bit.
So there's a certain line that I
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draw because I think it's an
invasion of privacy.
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Like it doesn't need to know
where I am all the time.
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But yeah, I mean, we do buy in
and we say, Yep, we're going to,
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we want this, we want this
service, we want this.
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So it's hard for, you know, I
don't think it's outrage.
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I'm not false outrage, but I
think it's important for people
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to know what is being tracked.
Thank you, Jonathan.
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I'm going to Matt.
I'll come to you in a second.
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I'm going to go to Nick.
Go ahead, Nick.
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Yeah, so I, I think the the
comment of like, where is the
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line crossed or at what point
does the line get crossed?
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And I think Jonathan kind of
touched on it.
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That was going to be a, a
comment that I was going to
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make.
Like whenever you sign up for a
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new app or you get on a new app
and it pops up and it's like,
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oh, can we use your location?
And at least on Android, you
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always have the option that says
like while using the app, yes
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and no or something like that.
And I think once they, I, I
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don't necessarily think that
they're doing exactly what you
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select.
Like if you say only when you're
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using the app, I still kind of
think that they are still
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collecting your location and
whatever permissions you give
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them, even when the app is not
in use.
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And I think to me, that's where
the line gets crossed because
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exactly what Jonathan said, I'm
not using the app.
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What, what information do you
need from me?
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Because it doesn't pertain to
what I'm doing on the app.
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It that's where to me, it starts
getting kind of like an invasion
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of your privacy.
Thank you, Nick, Alex, I saw you
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wanted to chime in.
Do do you still have something
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for us?
I mean, Matt hit the nail on the
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head.
You can't put the genie back in
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the bottle.
And the problem with all this
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is, you know, we're all looking
at this for good 'cause that's
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what we're not evil, right, Matt
Matthew?
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But at the same time, there's
just a lot of people that can
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take this and they're pushing it
and they're pushing it to weird
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places.
You know, I I know there's the
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people out there that want their
privacy.
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Unless you live in a bubble and
you're off the grid and
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everything else, you're not
private.
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And, and even if you think you
are, you're not.
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So it's, it's an interesting,
it's an interesting
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conversation.
I know it's a bigger
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conversation, but yeah, for
people to go back, we can't.
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And we just have to learn how to
manage what these these sites
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are gonna do.
And it's not just Google and
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it's it's not just Facebook.
It's in every aspect of our
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lives, whether you go to the
supermarket or whatever else.
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And, you know, I don't know, I
don't know what the answer is.
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But at the end of the day, yeah,
we have to, we have to have
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people like Nick and Matt that
that are on top of this stuff
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because it's just so
overwhelming.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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Go ahead, Matt.
But the thing to keep in mind is
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these modern conveniences are
what accrues the data from us in
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order to enable them.
So what I'd ask people to think
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about, perhaps after this
conversation is taking a little
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step in the direction and ask
yourself, what modern
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convenience am I enjoying right
now that I can start to pull
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myself away from in the case
that there's, you know, a power
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outage across the world,
Electricity suddenly disappears
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for whatever reason.
But imagine you're sitting in
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your room right now and without
any access to technology.
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What do you do?
And start to think about how you
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entertain yourself and how you
get your information and start
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to pull back a little bit from
these companies that offer you a
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convenience as a way to, you
know, become invested, you know,
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direct your attention into their
platform.
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And then by consequence of that,
you start to retain a little bit
435
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,440
more of your data, but you also
start to gain things like what
436
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,440
people are talking about today,
like critical thinking is going
437
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,480
away.
People don't remember as much
438
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,520
attention span is going down.
You can start to recover those
439
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,920
things as a consequence of also
pulling your yourself away from
440
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,560
the modern conveniences.
And the only immediate example
441
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,520
that I have at the top of my
mind is scrolling your Instagram
442
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,240
Reels and your YouTube Reels and
all that kind of stuff.
443
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,280
That's an attention grabber
that's hard to pull away from.
444
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:51,480
And I'd ask anyone who's
scrolling today, if you see that
445
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,200
record and you're like, oh, how
long have I been doing this?
446
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,560
Put the phone down.
Take that opportunity to just,
447
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,400
you know, pull yourself away.
From it.
448
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,040
Thank you, Matt and I.
Don't wanna.
449
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840
Huge box there, I am really
sorry.
450
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,680
That's OK.
I was appreciating what you were
451
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,160
sharing and Ralph in the chat
says it's an addiction.
452
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,320
And I fully agree.
And kind of I will, I admit that
453
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,080
I think I'm a little addicted to
it and I, I have those moments
454
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,160
as well.
Thank you, Matt.
455
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,320
I'm going to go to Janae and as
before you speak Janae, I want
456
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,280
to make a call out to everybody
else in the audience.
457
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,960
Come on up if you want to share
any wins from your week.
458
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960
We will get to that segment
momentarily.
459
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,160
And the only way it works is if
some of us are participating and
460
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,760
sharing.
So come on up, join us, share
461
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,240
any wins that you want to
celebrate with the gang this
462
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,520
morning.
With that, Janae, good morning
463
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,760
to you.
What did you want to add and
464
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,640
maybe help us wrap up this part
of the conversation?
465
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,440
Good morning everyone, super
excited to be here and looks
466
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840
like they've already wrapped up
the year for us.
467
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,720
They Spotify, yes right.
And I was even even looking on
468
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,520
my Apple Music and Apple Music
told me how many different bands
469
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,960
I listened to.
So and I can go all the way back
470
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,240
to 2016 on all the different
music that I'm listening to.
471
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,400
And it's like, this is really
interesting because of course,
472
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,000
they are tracking all the stuff
that we are doing on their
473
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,680
platforms.
And this is a way for them to
474
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,520
tell you back like, hey, this is
what you've been listening to.
475
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,160
And funny enough, I think two
years ago, the stuff that I was
476
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,840
listening to was all ocean
sounds because that's the stuff
477
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,360
we play, you know, when we're
going to bed.
478
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,440
So it's really interesting.
And yes, they're going to have
479
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,040
access to our data, which is
what we promised or we agreed
480
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,800
to.
But we also have to remember
481
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,560
that we are only here for a
little bit.
482
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,080
That's about it, right?
So this data helps them whatever
483
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
it helps them do.
We got to realize that we are
484
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,240
here only for a little bit, and
what we do with what we have is
485
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,760
completely up to us.
So be evil, be not.
486
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,720
At the end of the day, who are
you?
487
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,120
Who do you want to be?
Hopefully that helps.
488
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,400
Thank you, Janae.
Love that.
489
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,680
And by the way, Dave in the chat
says, so I might be your sole
490
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Spotify listener.
I think he's talking to us.
491
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,920
It is all I use for podcasts and
music.
492
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200
I love comments within the
episodes.
493
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,280
Yes, I know Dave definitely is
thankfully one of the
494
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,040
contributors of the comments on
our Spotify page.
495
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,000
He said PMC was my top show that
I listened to in 2025.
496
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,680
Thank you, Dave.
And you are not the sole Spotify
497
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040
listener.
There are actually about 100.
498
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,800
I can't remember the exact
number, but I'll say around 139
499
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,600
other people who were told that
we podcasting morning chat are
500
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,600
their number one show.
And I've heard from, I think now
501
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,800
it's up to about 5 different
people sharing that information
502
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,720
with me that hey, I'm your you
know, you're my #1 show and
503
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,800
thank you.
Keep them coming.
504
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,880
Anybody who's listening to my
voice right now, if we appeared
505
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,640
as your number one podcast, let
me know.
506
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,240
I want to hear it makes me feel
good.
507
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,640
Thank you.
All right, so with that, let's
508
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,080
get into our wins from this
week.
509
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Come on up and share.
Would love to hear what you are
510
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,960
up to.
So first, let's see, let's go to
511
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Janae's already shared.
Actually, let's go to BC since
512
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920
BC has been on stage all morning
with us.
513
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,160
BC, good morning to you.
Would you be open to sharing a
514
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,040
win or two from your past week?
I would say right now my best
515
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,320
win is I just came off a brand
new kind of mini podcast last
516
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,320
week, though of course that was
on a holiday week, so don't kind
517
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,360
of count that consistency.
But this week has been full
518
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,320
through Monday, through Friday,
waking up at 6:00, getting that
519
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,720
done and getting it out there.
So I count that as a win.
520
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Definitely a win and a win for
all of us that you've been
521
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,360
joining us this week for the
past several days.
522
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000
And I know you've told me you
want to keep coming back.
523
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,520
So we, we love having you here
BC I'd love, I appreciate your
524
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,280
contributions.
Thank you for being here.
525
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome.
526
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,040
Let's check in with back in with
Janae.
527
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,600
Janae, would you like to share a
win or two with us?
528
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,840
Absolutely.
I'd love to share a win.
529
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040
The first one is Empowered
Podcasting.
530
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,160
Conference recordings are done
and ready for whenever people
531
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,760
are ready to take a watch at the
event.
532
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,760
So that's done.
Super happy that I was able to
533
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,600
complete it.
Took took a while, but it's
534
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,360
done.
It was a lot of work.
535
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,720
Congratulations and thank you.
28 conversations or 28 talks?
536
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:17,440
The second one is I, I'm working
on the presentation for my Pod
537
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Fest talk and I love how it's
coming together.
538
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,040
So those are my.
Yeah, congratulations, Janae.
539
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,680
That's awesome.
And again, I'll, I'll share that
540
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,680
win with you just because I'm so
grateful that you've taken the
541
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,320
time, volunteered the time to
separate all of those
542
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,600
presentations and into what, 28
different videos.
543
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,720
And yeah, we're going to have
more information about how you
544
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,160
can get those videos next week.
So thank you, Janae.
545
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,280
You're welcome.
And let's check in with Yvonne.
546
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Yvonne, good morning.
Welcome to the stage.
547
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,440
Please share a couple of wins
with us from your week.
548
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Well, I think you know one of my
wins, Mark.
549
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,760
I think so, but go ahead and.
Share my time yeah.
550
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,520
So Mark and I talked yesterday.
He is, I interviewed him for
551
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,640
late when we're living.
Great conversation.
552
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,960
I can't wait to get it out
there.
553
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:21,040
And I, I also booked my tickets
to Santa Fe for April where I'm
554
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,560
going to be a panel speaker and
photographer at a women's
555
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,920
conference.
So very excited to have that
556
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,520
starting to get in motion and
good stuff.
557
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Great stuff.
Congratulations.
558
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,880
And I loved, I love seeing the
momentum from attending the
559
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Empowered Podcasting Conference,
feeling a little bit out of your
560
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,040
comfort zone, doing it anyway,
speaking on a stage, doing all
561
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,560
your things and how that
momentum is carried over into
562
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,800
new, new opportunities.
Well, the the opportunity came
563
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,040
directly from a contact that I
made at the Empowered Podcasting
564
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,440
conference.
One of the attendees there, we
565
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,120
had a great conversation.
Next thing I know, a woman who's
566
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,440
speaking at one of her events is
getting in touch with me to say,
567
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,800
hey, I heard you did the, you
know, come do this thing with
568
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800
me.
So, yeah, good stuff.
569
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,560
Thank you.
Yeah, congratulations.
570
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,760
And I share another win with
another community member.
571
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,400
Yes, I'll take, I'll take that,
some of that with me as well.
572
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,880
I had, I loved the conversation
yesterday we had it was really
573
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,960
interesting.
I can't wait to share it with
574
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,520
everybody here.
So looking forward to sharing
575
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,840
more about that soon.
Let's see.
576
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,800
OK, you know what, I will share
a couple of my wins and then we
577
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,120
will keep it moving with the
rest of the team here.
578
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,480
And again, you, we have some
time gang.
579
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,840
So if you are in the audience
and want to come up and share
580
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,320
anything that's gone well for
you this week, let's hear about
581
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,080
it.
Would love to do that.
582
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,800
So for me, I think probably one
of the wins I'm most proud of
583
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:02,280
this week I closed 2 new
clients, which admittedly been
584
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,600
on in a bit of a drought as far
as bringing in new clients over
585
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,440
the past, I don't know, couple
months.
586
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,400
So this was a, a pleasant
surprise.
587
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,199
I have a new client that is, has
purchased a podcast launch
588
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:18,800
package.
So I will be working with them
589
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,960
over the next six weeks or so to
help them get their podcast up
590
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,360
and running.
And then I have another client,
591
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,880
this new client, they wanted to
do the same thing as what I just
592
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:36,080
described with the last one and
after meeting in person.
593
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,320
So there's a part of a win right
there is it's a a local client,
594
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,000
which is very cool.
I want to try to do more of that
595
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,880
in 2026.
But when we sat down and talked,
596
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,679
he really wanted to extend what
I had put out there as far as
597
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,760
how our working relationship
would go.
598
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,040
He wants to hire me on a
retainer basis, more like an
599
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,360
executive producer, director
role for his entire media arm of
600
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,040
his real estate business.
He wants me to really build that
601
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,600
out from scratch with him and
his business partner.
602
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,600
So a really cool and exciting
opportunity, one that, as far as
603
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Ironic Media goes, I've not ever
done a retainer type of package
604
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,800
before.
So I'm excited about the
605
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,880
opportunity and great way to
wrap up 2025 and head into 2026.
606
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,240
I'll, I'll say that and then
I'm, I've had a lot.
607
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:34,440
I overall, I just want to say I
had a fantastic week.
608
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,320
This was a week where, if you've
been following my journey at
609
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,880
all, you know, I've had quite a
journey this year with my ADHD
610
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,880
and having to get off of my
medication due to high blood
611
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,160
pressure.
But this week really has felt
612
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,200
more like I had felt when I used
to be on the medication.
613
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,640
It's felt more focused, more
productive, and also just more
614
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,280
of a overall easy flow.
So it's not just been that
615
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,720
hustle mentality, that hustle
culture mentality, it's it's
616
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:10,680
been productive and flowing.
So I am, I am thrilled with
617
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,800
that.
Those are my wins.
618
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,480
I'm going to move it on, hand it
over to Ralph.
619
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,240
Ralph share some wins with us.
OK, I've got a couple.
620
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,600
One of them is not podcast
related, but I found out on
621
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,760
Thanksgiving that I'm going to
be a grandfather.
622
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,600
So that was amazing.
My oldest son.
623
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Thank you.
My oldest son is in the Coast
624
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Guard stationed in Texas and he
is welcoming a baby in June.
625
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,440
So that was an amazing thing.
Almost wrecked the car when I
626
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,400
was driving and they told my
wife and I while we were
627
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,920
driving.
So, but the second big win is
628
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,040
something I talked about a
little bit.
629
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,640
I actually hit 100,000
subscribers on my YouTube
630
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,600
channel and now we're at
130,000.
631
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,920
So Google sent me the thing I'm
going to get a silver play
632
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,160
button do that is just so cool
for me.
633
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,320
Never thought as an accountant
I'd have an audience of people
634
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,000
that actually want to hear what
I have to say.
635
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,400
And so that was a huge win for
me.
636
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,320
Thank you for sharing that,
Ralph.
637
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Congratulations on both.
Very cool to hear you're going
638
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,080
to be a grandfather.
So, so exciting.
639
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,680
Thank you for sharing and I'll
keep it moving and go to
640
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,720
Jonathan.
Jonathan, good morning again.
641
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,000
Please share a couple of wins
from your week.
642
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,680
OK, I will share that.
Well, Monday we had a great show
643
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,440
here and I enjoyed doing that,
talking about, talking about
644
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,840
what did we talk about new
heights and yeah, so I enjoyed
645
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,240
that.
And we'll be doing another one
646
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:43,520
this Monday here for Podcasting
1 yes, we're going to be talking
647
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,280
about everything is alive on
yeah on Monday.
648
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,320
So that'll be that's a fun one
because the interviews inanimate
649
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,200
objects.
So that'll be an interesting one
650
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,120
to learn from.
And then I, I will say much like
651
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,000
you, Mark, I had a really strong
week.
652
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,320
Like I wish all the weeks of
2025 could have been this
653
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,280
productive, this kind of
focused.
654
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,400
And I'm going to give part of
the credit to the fact that I
655
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,720
have to get my life in order
because I have a eight week old
656
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:19,080
puppy joining me next week.
So so yeah, I got that fun
657
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,400
because I'll have three dogs
now.
658
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Yeah, crazy.
You're going.
659
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,280
To be a little.
Distracted.
660
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,640
Yes, you're going to be a little
distracted for the next few
661
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,800
weeks.
Congratulations, Jonathan.
662
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,480
And yes, I, I really enjoyed
Monday and so much so I asked
663
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,360
you if we could do it again this
Monday.
664
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,920
And yeah, everything alive is a
really creative podcast and I'm
665
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,400
I'm looking forward to breaking
that down and seeing what we all
666
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,400
can learn from that.
Thank you, Jonathan.
667
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,920
Congratulations again, Dr.,
You're up.
668
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Well, I guess my win is that I
am trying something called dry
669
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:59,000
needling for my hip Bursitis,
which is kind of developed into
670
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,280
a major case of sciatica.
But the first appointment went
671
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,240
well.
I could tell that something was
672
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,720
happening and it was going in
the right direction this time.
673
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,520
And I get my next appointment
today at 11 AM central.
674
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,680
So that's my win.
Congratulations, I know you've
675
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,920
been struggling, so I really
hope that this helps.
676
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,120
I know it it seemed to help a
little bit the first time.
677
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,440
So keep going and and let us
know how you're doing.
678
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Good luck with that, Dr. All
right, so that is everybody.
679
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,320
The other members that had
joined us had to bounce.
680
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,520
And I'll I'll throw it out once
more.
681
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,000
If anybody in the audience wants
to join and share any wins, now
682
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,800
is your chance before I wrap up.
But I will say what another,
683
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,840
what another great week of
shows, and I'm not just saying
684
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,240
that because I'm the host and
that's what I want to do.
685
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,240
I, I look, I, I feel like I'm
saying it every Friday now, but
686
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,040
for whatever reason, I believe
our game has really stepped up.
687
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,440
I feel like the conversations
that we're having are super
688
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,760
valuable, informative, and we're
also I, I'm, I'm appreciating
689
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,240
how well we're getting to know
each other even more.
690
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,760
So thank you all.
For helping to make this thing
691
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,080
what it is Billy is.
Yeah, Billy is on stage.
692
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,120
So let's hear from Billy.
Billy, you want to share a
693
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,520
couple wins with us?
Good morning.
694
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,360
Hey, good morning.
Hope you guys are doing well.
695
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,240
I miss you on my schedule.
Yeah.
696
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,840
It's been a while.
I know someone dead and
697
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,280
homeschooled duty in the
morning, so I had a couple
698
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,960
minutes.
I'm like, I'll jump up and say
699
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,080
hi, but, you know, a couple of
cool.
700
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:41,120
In this week on Cyber Monday, I
did a live stream with Ecamm for
701
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,560
seven hours.
I saw some of that.
702
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,760
Yeah.
So it was pretty cool.
703
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,440
That was a different experience.
And I love live streaming, but
704
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,240
seven hours was pretty crazy.
So I might need some dry
705
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,080
needling in my rear end after
sitting in that chair for so
706
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,080
long.
But I was it was a different
707
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,160
experience.
It was fun.
708
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,400
So we had to highlight some
creators and products and
709
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520
services and all the fun stuff
that they offer.
710
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,640
So yeah, that was a that was a
pretty cool win this early this
711
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,600
week.
Billy, congratulations.
712
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,600
And yeah, I, I, it's been a long
time.
713
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,280
I've done that once that
marathon type live streaming
714
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,760
thing when I was at a, at the
actual what?
715
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,800
What is it?
It's like the MLB conference and
716
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,880
we did a full day non-stop of
fantasy sports talk.
717
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,760
We had a booth there and it was
crazy and exhausting.
718
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,480
Did you?
I'm going to just ask you, I
719
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,480
know this might be you don't
have to answer the question, was
720
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,080
this a paid thing with ECAM or
was it a volunteer thing?
721
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,920
I asked because you're always
the guy who is talking about
722
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,040
ways to monetize.
So I had to ask.
723
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,920
No, that's a great question.
And no, with the ECAM, you know,
724
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,880
I love their services and I am
an affiliate with their
725
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,720
software.
And so I just anytime I get a
726
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:00,640
chance to hang out with the
community over there, I do.
727
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,280
And then also I was promoting my
community.
728
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,840
So I saw a lot of, I saw a lot
of growth probably, I mean,
729
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,680
yeah, I mean, probably 30
something people jumped over
730
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,600
from that live show into my
community.
731
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,360
So it was a good time.
Yeah, that's a big win.
732
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,360
Congratulations, Billy, and
thank you for sharing.
733
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Appreciate that.
And Jonathan, we have somebody
734
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,920
over on Chatter who wants to
share a win.
735
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,320
Take it away.
Yes, we we have lots over here
736
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,200
who had wants to share a win.
So lots over to you.
737
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,320
First of all, good morning,
folks.
738
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,400
How's everybody?
Good morning.
739
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Good morning, Watts.
Good to meet you.
740
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Likewise, listen, it's the slow
season for me running a podcast
741
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,240
business because it's not a
priority to a lot of these
742
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,880
people.
And yet somehow I've secured 4
743
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,560
new clients this week that all
locked in, put down payments and
744
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,080
are ready to start recording.
So I am not one to argue with
745
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,200
the victory.
Congratulations, I can share
746
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,240
that those feelings with you.
Like I said, it's a little bit
747
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:04,600
of a slow, normally a slower
time and yeah, I I feel that.
748
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,880
Congratulations, Watts, that's
awesome.
749
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Thank you for sharing.
OK, Yeah, I.
750
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,200
Move that.
Thanks.
751
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,000
Yeah, congratulations.
Very cool.
752
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,760
All right gang, we are back
Monday, 7:00 AM Eastern.
753
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,320
And we will, as we said, we will
be breaking down the show.
754
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,400
Everything is alive and trying
to figure out what can we learn
755
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,000
from these shows, the successful
shows.
756
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,400
So come join us for that.
Tuesday we're going to be
757
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,840
talking all things private
podcasting.
758
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,880
BCS going to join the
conversation as well as Cliff
759
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,400
Ravenscraft, the OG podcast
coach.
760
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,160
The the both those two have
their own or have had their own
761
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,040
private podcast.
So we're going to break it down
762
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,000
and discuss the advantages if
there are disadvantages and
763
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,640
maybe something it'll inspire
somebody to start their private
764
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,840
podcast.
Wednesday we're going to do news
765
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,120
and comment.
Thursday's another evaluation
766
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,680
and Fridays to TBD aside from
sharing our wins from the week.
767
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,920
So until Monday gang, make it a
great weekend.
768
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Everybody take care.