537. When Your Family Doesn't Understand Your Podcast

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Well, good


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morning again, everybody.
Welcome to the Friday edition of

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the podcasting morning show.
I just want to thank you so much

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I am finishing up my hosting

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travel and do some
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Yeah, I know Ralph Estep Jr.:
that's a total
of four if

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you've been keeping track.
So, we are in on a Hall
of

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Fame tour for sure.
And joining me again on stage,

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we've
got Sid Meadows, DR.
Fay, and BC Babbles, and Dan

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from the
audience has joined
us as well.

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So today we're going to talk

about first thing we're going to

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do is we're going to do one of

our spotlight series.

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If you've been following the
show, you
we've been asking

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for spotlights to be sent in,
and this
particular one is

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called At the Counter with the
Baking pastor,
so at the

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counter with the baking pastor
is a gentle space
for honest

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conversations about faith,
grief, healing, and the
hard

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seasons of life.
If you ever thought I thought I

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was the
only one, there's a
chair waiting for you at the

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counter.

So I'm gonna go ahead and play

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that right now.
Clip: Welcome to At the Counter

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with the baking pastor.
I'm Laura.

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Pull up a chair.
There's
no rush here this

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season.
We're sitting with the hard

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days, the
ones that don't
resolve quickly, the ones that

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change us in ways
we didn't
ask for.

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So, for someone who's listening,
who
feels stretched thin,

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they're still showing up,
they're still
holding things

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together, and kind of faking it,
but inside
they feel like they

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are right at their edge.
What would you want
them to

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know about that place?
If you're on the edge and you're

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on the ledge, the first thing
I would say the same thing I

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said
in the song, don't allow
your circumstances to define

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you.

It's okay, you're going through

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what you're going through, it's
okay to join the edge, so don't

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allow that to be your story,

don't allow that to be the end

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all to be all.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Well, that was

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the spotlight.
Does anybody want to comment on

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the spotlight
submission?
The only thing I would say, and

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I mean this in
the most
constructive way possible, is

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that the audio on
the guest
was a little bit crackly.

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So, the only thing I
would say
is one thing: if you're going to

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use this as a
trailer, it's
probably a good idea to do a

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little bit of
re-engineering
of that sound.

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Did anybody else pick up on that

as well?

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DR: I didn't know that we were

commenting on things like that,

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but yeah, you know, if you run

it through Adobe Enhance, the

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paid version is a million times
different than the free

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version.
I think it would really clean it

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up a lot.
It would stop the vocal bounce

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that I'm hearing on
the on the
clip.

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So yeah, Ralph Estep Jr.: go
ahead, Sid.


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I see you wanted to make a
comment.

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Then I'll go to BC.
Sid Meadows: So, whenever you're

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promoting..
Good morning, everybody.

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Sorry about that, by
the way.
Whenever you're important.. when

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I could talk..

whenever you're hard in the

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morning, aren't they?
Did I
say..

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Oh crap, I just..
I never thought I would actually

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be the
one to get that, but
okay.

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Here we are.
So it's important to
remember

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that whenever you're promoting
your show, whether
it's

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through a clip or in talking to
people about it, or
sharing a

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video about whatever it is
you're doing, it's really


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important to check in on your
energy level and.

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And to be sure
that you're
creating the type of energy and

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vibe that your show
creates,
but also the type of energy and

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vibe that will want
people to
listen to it, and I think that

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the energy in this
one was
just a little bit flat for me,

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so I think it's just
important
to check in with your energy,

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Ralph Estep Jr.: that's a very

valid point.

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Go ahead, BC.
I know you wanted to make a


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comment.
Then we're going to move on to

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our topic of the day.
BC Babbles: Yes.

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Good morning.
I
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it does.
The energy definitely
needed

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some bump, for sure.
She also reminds me a bit of my

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own
client, who is a post
retiree, wants to get into

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storytelling
now with their
background and in being a coach,

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and there's
something about
the scriptedness of it.

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I understand this person

probably is not accustomed to

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speaking on a mic yet.
This
might be a new venture

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for them, a new kind of venture
for them,
but and this is not

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me trying to hark on a new
storyteller by any
means, but

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I would say over time try to
become familiar enough
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your own message that you don't
have to come off so
scripted,

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you know.
This is something that she wants

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to
really connect with people
on, especially when it comes to

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grief.
You know, you want to be able to

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sound a lot more
personable,
and we can definitely sense the

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stanzas in
each of the lines
that she delivers in her intro.

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So, I
would say make that a
goal at some point to become a

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bit more
off script at some
point, Ralph Estep Jr.: BC, and

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I just
want to encourage
everybody to continue.

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Go ahead, DR. Seen to
me
interrupt you there.

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DR: I am piggybacking off of

what Sid said, and I'm thinking

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ahead that if I had, because her

energy was a little low, and

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then when it switched over to

the guest, it went way, way even

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lower, so I'm trying to think

ahead about if I had a guest

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that was that low, what could I
say to the guest to raise up

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that level a little bit, you

know wAhat I mean.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Yeah, that's a
tough one, because that could

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be their vibe of that person
too,
like I want to be careful

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about that.
I wasn't talking so much
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that.
It's just to me it was the there

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were some
artifacts that I
heard as I was listening to,

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like real some
weird, like
electronic, DR: definitely some

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audio stuff
going on, but the
energy level of the guest was

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even lower than
the hosts.
Ralph Estep Jr.: No, I agree


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with that.
DR: So I was, I'm trying to


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figure out what I would say to
the guest to make them a little

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bit up more, that wouldn't you
know, be like an elephant on the

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podcast, that you're always
something, there's something


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that they're aware of that even
the listeners are picking up on,

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like you know, something,
something sounds weird.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: I agree, DR.

Well, let's go ahead and move on

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to our topic for today.
We'll
put a link to in the

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show notes that you can go check
out that
show, but we want to

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really thank them for sending
that in
and check out their

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show.
It sounds like a pretty

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interesting
show.
Well, I want to start today with

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a question that
nobody really
asked about out loud in

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podcasting circles, and
I was
thinking about what to talk

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about today earlier in the

week, and I said, you know, one

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of the things that's been a

stress for me, and this is going

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to be sort of a true confession
episode, I think, for some of

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us, is how's your spouse doing

with all this?

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How's your partner handling the
recording
sessions, the

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equipment purchases, that
equipment
budget, the hours

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staring at a screen, the
conversations you
have with

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strangers that you've never met
with, because if we
think

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about it, behind a lot of
podcasters, there's someone who

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didn't sign up for this, this
hobby or this business, someone

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who supports you anyway,
someone who doesn't fully

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understand why
you do it, and
sometimes someone who's quietly

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struggling with
it.
So today I really want to talk

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about that.
So to get the
warm, the room

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warmed up.
I want to get to where people

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are.
I'm
going to ask everybody to

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put in the comments, or you can
actually come on stage and ask

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the question.
I want you to
raise your hands

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and tell me which of these would
would suit
you.

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And the first one is this: my
partner is fully supportive,


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they get it completely.
Second one, my partner is

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tolerant,
they don't always
understand, but they let me do

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it.
The next
one is my partner has

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mixed feelings, it's a source of
some
tension.

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Or this one, I'm single, I only
have the answer
to myself.

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And then the final one, my
family is my biggest


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challenge, not a partner.
So I see a lot of people want to

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comment.
So BC, I think you're first, and

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then we'll go to Sid
and
generate, so go ahead, BC.

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BC Babbles: I'm single, and I

answer only to myself for the

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time being.
So I'm enjoying the
freedom

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while I have it.
I also want to say it's a really

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interesting dichotomy, too,
coming from the radio industry,

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where when you're dating
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the
personal life becomes
free, free game, right?

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But that's back
when the
company's paying for all the

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merchant, all the stuff
to
make the studio with podcasting,

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you have to buy
everything
yourself.

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I wonder what that difference
and shift
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responsibility looks like for
everyone else.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Go ahead, Sid,
you're up.

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And then we'll go to Junaid.
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a one because that was the
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with.
But I will say that my wife,

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Teresa, is extremely

supportive and very encouraging

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of my content creation journey,
because it is a journey, and

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so, yeah, I don't, we don't
struggle
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here's why we don't struggle
with this, she's
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overachiever too, and she's very
humble, and very much an


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introvert, unlike me, which is
probably why we've been married

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for 30 years, that and I
traveled for 15 years of our


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married life, right?
But you know, she's an

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overachiever and
is very well
known in her industry, and I say

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all the
time, she's all that
in a bag of chips, so she's

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living this
similar journey,
she's just not as public as me,

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but she is very
supportive,
and I'm very supportive of her.

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And we
learned a long time ago
that if we were both going to

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have
careers, then we needed
to lean into supporting each

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other and
what our dreams and
desires are.

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And so we've been successfully

been able to do that for 30

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years.
Ralph Estep Jr.: I think that's

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great.
Sid, go ahead.

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Junaid, you're up.
Junaid: Good morning.

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I thought
the options that you
said were 1234, and we had to

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put 1234,
That picked the
first one.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Sorry about

that.

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Yes, I could have been a little
clearer, Junaid: but no, I do

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agree with
Sid saying, you
know, Sid, my wife's totally

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fine with it.
She
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because before I even stepped
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telling her, you know, this is
not what
I want to do anymore,

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like I'm not feeling fulfilled
in my job,
not feeling that

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this is fulfilling me, this is
not
something, you know, you

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have that feeling when you're
going
through life, right, you

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have different phases, so when I

switched over to podcasting, I

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was still working full time, but

it was, it was something that

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was giving me fulfillment in

sharing my voice and getting out

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there, but then over time I

spent a lot of time now, it's

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crazy that both my, my wife and
I, we both work from home, she

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travels every other week for

work as well, so she totally

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understands the time and energy
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successful.
So I'm really,
really

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fortunate to be with her, and
we're going to be
celebrating

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our 20 years in marriage.
So super excited to
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supportive people in our lives,
is such a blessing
that we

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don't think about it when we're
in it, but then when
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back and look at it, it's like,
wow, if for somebody
else I

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wouldn't be able to do this, and
having that
communication

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between your partner is so
important because
it puts a

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mental pressure on you as well,
then it doesn't help
you get

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out your authentic sin, but I'll
stop here.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Thank you,

Junaid.

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I also want to put a comment
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stream, and it's from Sambaza.
It says, 'My partner is 100%


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supportive.
They understand the podcast and

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are willing to help
me in
anything I want to do in the

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podcast.
They even give me
suggestions,

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which some have turned out to be
awesome.

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So, I
thought that was a
really valuable point.

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DR. looks like
you want to
make a comment, so go ahead.

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DR. DR: Yeah, you know, it's
funny,
I, because I produce

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and I have clients, and it took
a little
while to get that

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first client, and when I first
quit my nine to
fiver, and my

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husband was like, well, what do
you want to do?

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I
said, well, you know, I
think I'm going to go into

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podcast.
He
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meant, he had no idea, and so
that was
a hurdle that I

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wanted to do something with my
life that he
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couldn't conceive what that was.
And certainly,
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gotten my first client, second
client, and you
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since I've gotten clients that
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He is
more on board with what
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He still doesn't know
exactly
what I'm doing, and if truth be

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told, I would love it
if, when
he came home from work and I

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asked him how his day
went,
and he would tell me, and then I

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wish that he would follow
up
with how was your day, you know

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what?
What did you record
today?

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Who did you help today?
I would love it so much if he


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would ask that, and he doesn't,
so yeah, but we're, we're safe.

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over 20 years, so we're safe,
Ralph Estep Jr.: all right.

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True
confession time for
Ralph.

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So this has been a major
struggle
for me, and my wife

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just doesn't get it, you know.
For us, it's
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a constant source of stress.
She doesn't
understand the

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money I spend on this.
She doesn't understand why
I

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have this.
She always says, "Why do you

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have this need to be
seen by
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and I am the
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and that's been a challenge,
because she
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and she's acting, she's actually
said to
me times, "Listen, I

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don't want to hear about
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She said, "All you talk about is
podcasting, all I hear
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podcasting and podcasting, and
she goes, "Ralph.

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I just
don't care, and that's
been hard for me.

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And in full disclosure,
we
have a difficult relationship,

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and I say that I
love my wife,
don't misunderstand me.

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But it's been
a challenge, and
I think I need to be

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intellectually honest
here,
and that's one of the reasons I

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picked this topic
today,
because it's hard for me, and

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you know, it's been one of

those things that you know she

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tolerates it, but there's zero.


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I want to say support, so even
to the extent, like when we were

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traveling, she didn't
understand why.

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Why are you bothering to
take
all this gear with you, Ralph?

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Why are you doing this?

Why are you doing that?

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I said, because I made a
commitment, and
I'm one of

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these people that follows
through on my
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She says, well, you know, it's
not really paying
your bills,

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it's not doing this, it's not
doing that.

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So I get
where she's coming
from, but it's been a real

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challenge, and
so anyway, I
just wanted to monetize DR: a

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little bit, right?
You've
monetized as much as

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your ranch and everything is
you've got
going on, right,

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but yeah, you have monetized,
and the fact
that you're you

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doing consultations for people
who are
podcasting, I mean,

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that's that's got to be worth
something
as well.

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People are coming to you for
your expertise.

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So, does
she recognize that
you have an expertise in this

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genre?
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she's starting to see that, and
I think there's a little bit of

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jealousy that goes on too.
Like, why are there so many

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people
reaching out there,
like she doesn't understand the

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fact that
I have hundreds of
1000s of YouTube subscribers,

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and I don't
say that from a
place of arrogance at all,

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exactly.
I
think it's just like this

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thing, like, well, Who is this
person,
and why did this lady

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send you a message, and why did
this
happen, and why did that

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happen, and and that's been a
challenge,
and so, because I

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am 100% in love with my wife,
but it would
be great if there

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was more support, like that
would be
awesome.

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DR: Yeah, Ralph Estep Jr.: you
know, I see
what I'm gonna

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read what Gabe put in the, in
the messages
here.

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He said, my wife is super
supportive of my podcast


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endeavors.
I'm blessed to have that in my

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life.
My past
marriage broke down

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partly due to what was going on
live in
live streaming and

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being a public persona.
Yeah, Gabe, I
totally get

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that, and I think that's hard.
So, I want to pivot
to another

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question.
I want to ask him, and then

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we've got
actually some
mailbag questions that DR. is

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going to help me go
through.
But let's talk about what

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podcasting looks like in
your
household.

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Rough.
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead,

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Junaid.
Junaid: Before we move on to the

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next one on this question,
there's an event that happens


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every year.
It's called the Commitment

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summit, and the
design for,
you know, people that are in

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this public space
that are
sharing content, that are

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content creators, but it's

always designed as a couple,

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like a couple, always couples

that are coming, because it's

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not just a you problem, right,

Ralph?

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There's a ton of people that are
in this space, they're
like,

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my spouse doesn't understand, my
partner doesn't
understand,

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because they haven't walked the
path of this personal
growth,

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right.
My wife didn't understand any of

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it four years
ago until she
hired a coach to lose weight

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herself, and she's
going to
this coach every single day,

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she's following all her

stories on Instagram, and she's

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learning all these things.
She's
like, "Wow, this is a

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lot of work that goes into it to
be
influenced or to make money

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and come through this process.
And
she started understanding

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what I was going through for the
four
years before that.

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So, I think there's a growth
that needs to
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understanding to come in place,
and this thing
that Gay

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mentioned in the chat, you know,
it's the same thing.


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It's not every person is going
to be in the growth level that


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we're at.
Everybody's on a different

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highway, and you don't

understand.

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Wait, but I don't see the cows
on the road.

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What
are you talking about?
Because they're a totally

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different
highway.
So, thank you so much for

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sharing and being so

vulnerable here, Ralph.

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Appreciate it.
Ralph Estep Jr.: No problem,


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Junaid.
That's the one thing you'll know

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about me.
I am very
transparent because

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I think somebody could be
listening that
maybe feels the

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same way I do.
And so, has anybody else come


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across where podcasting has
turned into a real argument with

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somebody they love?
I think Gabe, you kind of

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alluded to
that with your,
your ex-spouse, or you know, do

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the people
closest to you
actually listen to your show?

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It's interesting.

I asked my wife sometimes, do

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you listen to my shoes?
He's
like, I listen to Mel

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Robbins, Ralph, and I listen to
this one,
and I listen to that

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one, and I'm like, okay, that's
great.

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I
said, but do you listen to
some of the stuff I put out?

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Well,
Ralph, it's just not my
cup of tea, and you know what, I

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can
respect that, but there
are days when it hurts to be

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very candid
with you.
I'll send it out to my, my two

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boys or two extended
family.
Like, oh yeah, that sounds good,

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Ralph.
That sounds
good.

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Move right along.
But I don't want to make this

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the
Ralph show.
Did anybody else want to share

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before we get into
some of our
mailbag questions?

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I think both of those things are

kind of the.. they're not the

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same thing, but I kind of tied

those two together, Sid Meadows:

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so I'll have been
my family
does not listen to my show.

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Whenever I send one of the

episodes that I think is really

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important to my kids, I just get

rolled eyes.

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Well, that's okay, because my
show's about office
furniture

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and the people and the products
and the future, and
that's not

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- they're not interested in
that, right?

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It's.

So I get why they don't listen,

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but they're all very supportive
of it, so much so it's really

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funny.
I don't know if I told
you

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guys this, but my daughter
started an internship working


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for a fashion media company in
London, and part of her job is


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she's working on their intern,
she's working on their podcast


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team, and so now all of a
sudden, she's reaching out to


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dad for advice about podcasting
and asking me questions of


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things that she doesn't
understand, and it's been really

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fun to be able to partner with
her, right, and help her


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understand podcasting the way
that I understand it, because


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when I asked her, when she, when
they told her that they wanted


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her on the podcast team, I said,
did you tell them your dad was a

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podcaster?
She's like, no, it wasn't

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relevant, and I said,
yes,
it's very relevant, but since

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she, since then, she has
told
them, and they're like, oh,

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Lucy, learn everything you can

from your dad, it's kind of fun

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for that evolution.
Ralph Estep Jr.: That's awesome,

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Sid.
All right, Yar, how about we get

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to our first mailbag
question
of the day.

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I'm not sure how many we'll get
to,
because I want to leave

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some time for wins of the week.
But
here's the first one I

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found out on Reddit.
DR: Okay, so it says, my husband

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thinks that podcasting is a
waste of time.

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He's not mean
about it.
He just doesn't get why I spend

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so many hours on
something
that makes no money.

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I love doing it, but I feel
guilty
every time I sit down

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to record.
How do other podcasters deal


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with a partner who doesn't see
the value in what you do?

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And
this is what you were just
talking about, Ralph.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Yeah, this one
really hit close to home for

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me, and it's been a challenge.
Like
I said, I wish I had an

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answer to this when they say,
'Hey,
here, go do this.

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I think it really depends on
your partner.


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I love what Junaid said, and I
don't want to speak for Janae,


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but I think what he said is this
has been an evolutionary type of

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process for him, and I think
that's great if you can get the

428
00:21:52,188 --> 00:21:54,837
person to get to that, and I
don't know, maybe I'll get to


429
00:21:54,845 --> 00:21:56,543
that as well.
I've been doing it for several

430
00:21:56,543 --> 00:21:58,964
years now, so I'm
not sure
we're going to get there, but

431
00:21:58,964 --> 00:22:01,350
this is a tough one.

Does anybody want to comment on

432
00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:03,390
this one?
Alex: Yeah, I'll flip it.

433
00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:04,818
Ralph Estep Jr.: Good morning,

Alex.

434
00:22:04,818 --> 00:22:07,134
By the way, great to see you.
Alex: Yeah, good morning.

435
00:22:07,134 --> 00:22:11,118
You
know what podcasters have
to realize is that it's a hobby,

436
00:22:11,118 --> 00:22:14,095

and I don't mean that in a bad
way.

437
00:22:14,095 --> 00:22:16,210
I don't care if you're
making
money or not.

438
00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:19,820
It's like any other thing that
whatever
your thing is, I know

439
00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:23,634
a lot of friends of mine that
have they
like to run, they

440
00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:29,060
like to do this, they like to do
that, and
if this person, if

441
00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:33,795
their partner, husband, wife
doesn't
get it, that's okay,

442
00:22:33,795 --> 00:22:39,384
but as long as they acknowledge
it and
understand, like when I

443
00:22:39,384 --> 00:22:42,610
do podcasting with my podcast,
or
when I did podcasting with

444
00:22:42,610 --> 00:22:47,290
my podcast partner, you know,
she
just knew that I needed

445
00:22:47,290 --> 00:22:53,190
that time to do my thing, and I
think
that that's why it was

446
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:57,596
so important, and you know, I
ended
up doing to go back to

447
00:22:57,596 --> 00:23:00,579
the other question, you know, I
ended up
doing a podcast with

448
00:23:00,579 --> 00:23:03,050
my daughter, which was kind of a

family thing.

449
00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:06,324
My wife would help with the
script, I would
interview my

450
00:23:06,324 --> 00:23:09,155
daughter for the books, and it
was kind of a
family thing.

451
00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:12,573
It was kind of our thing, but at
the same time, if
somebody has

452
00:23:12,573 --> 00:23:14,895
an interest, whether it's
podcasting or
anything else,

453
00:23:14,895 --> 00:23:19,605
as long as they respect that
they do it, they
don't have to

454
00:23:19,605 --> 00:23:22,989
like it.
And going back to what Sid said,

455
00:23:22,989 --> 00:23:26,642
it's just
so funny how a
parent is always teaching,

456
00:23:26,642 --> 00:23:30,386
whether they, whether
the,
whether the daughter wants to or

457
00:23:30,386 --> 00:23:33,663
not, because my Lucy would

probably do the same thing.

458
00:23:33,663 --> 00:23:36,990
Dad, I don't want to do anything
with
you, because you're doing

459
00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:40,470
podcasting and I'm in

podcasting, so you know what,

460
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:44,970
I'm just glad to know that my 11

year old is the same thing as

461
00:23:44,970 --> 00:23:47,880
your 20 something year old, so

it's just it's a growing

462
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,075
process, I think.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Thank you,


463
00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:51,174
Alex.
Let's go ahead and go to BC, and

464
00:23:51,174 --> 00:23:54,065
then I'm going to go to
Sid.
BC Babbles: Yeah, one curiosity

465
00:23:54,065 --> 00:23:57,645
I have is for those who have a
non-podcasting partner, at the


466
00:23:57,653 --> 00:24:02,253
very least, is there at least
one attempt to break down and


467
00:24:02,261 --> 00:24:06,601
translate what it is to your
non-podcasting partner to help


468
00:24:06,609 --> 00:24:10,585
them alleviate questions, or
just so they have a bit of a


469
00:24:10,593 --> 00:24:14,517
better grasp on what it is we
are venturing into as


470
00:24:14,525 --> 00:24:16,953
podcasters.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Can you break


471
00:24:16,961 --> 00:24:18,456
it out a little bit more?
Can you read?

472
00:24:18,456 --> 00:24:20,280
I just wanna make sure
I
understand what you're asking.

473
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,590
I apologize.
DR: That's okay.

474
00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:23,436
BC Babbles: Yeah, yeah.
So we're
talking a lot about

475
00:24:23,436 --> 00:24:25,790
how there's this language
barrier between
podcasters and

476
00:24:25,790 --> 00:24:29,120
their non-podcasting partners.
So,
what I'm curious about,

477
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,390
though, is that for those of us
who have
non-podcasting

478
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:35,744
partners, are we at least at
some point taking
the try the

479
00:24:35,744 --> 00:24:38,925
attempt to break down and
translate what it is
we're

480
00:24:38,925 --> 00:24:42,286
doing, so they have a little
more of a relaxed
perception

481
00:24:42,286 --> 00:24:46,082
about it, so they're not so
worried, no, it's not so
many

482
00:24:46,082 --> 00:24:48,460
questions, they're more lax
about it.

483
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:54,750
DR: So, with me, you know, my

husband is in event planning, he

484
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,290
belongs to one of the biggest

event planning businesses in the

485
00:24:58,290 --> 00:25:02,970
nation, right here in.

Nashville, and when he does read

486
00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:07,110
the paper, and the only reason

why he knows about, I'm gonna

487
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:11,985
say, I'm gonna say the name, why

he knows about, oh no, I

488
00:25:11,985 --> 00:25:16,086
forgot who's the number one that
I
always hate, Alex: Joe

489
00:25:16,086 --> 00:25:19,314
Rogan, Joe Rogan, DR: Joe Rogan,
the only reason
why he knows

490
00:25:19,314 --> 00:25:24,315
about Joe Rogan is because Joe
Rogan is so much
into the pop

491
00:25:24,315 --> 00:25:26,810
culture.
When he reads a newspaper, he'll

492
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:30,712
read
about some big name that
was on the Joe Rogan show, and

493
00:25:30,712 --> 00:25:33,788
things
like that.
So every now and then he will

494
00:25:33,788 --> 00:25:37,116
come to me and say,
well, what
does Joe Rogan say about it?

495
00:25:37,116 --> 00:25:40,091
And he knows that I'm
going
to, you know, we have these

496
00:25:40,091 --> 00:25:43,200
little fake, you know

arguments back and forth with a

497
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,427
smile.
He also knows about the
bad

498
00:25:46,427 --> 00:25:49,042
friends.
There's a show called Bad

499
00:25:49,042 --> 00:25:52,895
Friends, and he does
know
about that one as well.

500
00:25:52,895 --> 00:25:56,838
But that's about it.
He doesn't
really question me

501
00:25:56,838 --> 00:26:02,303
about what I do, why I do it.
I don't think
he realizes that

502
00:26:02,303 --> 00:26:06,100
the main thing that I do is
marketing, you
know, there,

503
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:11,535
and I try and get through to him
that there are
podcasts that

504
00:26:11,535 --> 00:26:15,930
are funny, there are podcasts
that are true
crime, those are

505
00:26:15,930 --> 00:26:20,745
not what I do, I help
entrepreneurs market
their

506
00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:25,155
business through their podcast,
so it's, it's basically


507
00:26:25,163 --> 00:26:30,253
marketing is what I do, it's the
basis of what I do, the


508
00:26:30,261 --> 00:26:33,426
foundation, Alex: but to point,
I think it's
more about just

509
00:26:33,426 --> 00:26:39,060
your relationship, because every

partner in the history of the

510
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:44,820
entire existence loves something

about their third partner and

511
00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:48,030
hate something about their

partner, and I don't mean that

512
00:26:48,150 --> 00:26:52,470
people should hate podcasting,

but if you don't have to like

513
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:57,030
something to accept it or

tolerate it or appreciate that

514
00:26:57,030 --> 00:27:02,220
your partner is in it, and I

think that's the thing that is

515
00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:05,040
the most important thing.
Does
that make sense?

516
00:27:05,490 --> 00:27:08,820
Junaid: There's two things I

want to add here, and, and one

517
00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:12,810
of them is, so initially my wife

was like, "Hey, I've been with

518
00:27:12,810 --> 00:27:16,830
you for 20 years, it doesn't

matter if I like your podcasting

519
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:21,594
or not, and that's a huge right,

because they support us so

520
00:27:21,594 --> 00:27:25,062
much in all of those things that
it
doesn't matter, and then

521
00:27:25,062 --> 00:27:28,500
you can also look at it from
this other
perspective.

522
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:32,526
A fish does not care what a bird
can do, right?


523
00:27:32,534 --> 00:27:36,120
So imagine our partners are a
different animal, and they're


524
00:27:36,128 --> 00:27:40,188
like, oh, cool, you can swim,
that's cool, I can fly over


525
00:27:40,196 --> 00:27:43,110
here, right?
So it's totally fine if they

526
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:47,750
don't, they're not
into what
we're into, but as long as they

527
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:51,336
see that we smile,
that we're
happy with what we're doing, and

528
00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:55,366
that's why DR. He
asks you
those questions about Joe Rogan,

529
00:27:55,366 --> 00:27:59,904
because he knows you
hate him
so much, and you're gonna put a

530
00:27:59,904 --> 00:28:02,740
smile on your face,
and he
loves seeing you smile, that's

531
00:28:02,740 --> 00:28:07,040
all it DR: is.
Yeah, we Junaid: love to see our

532
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,658
partners
smile and be happy,
and that's all it is.

533
00:28:10,658 --> 00:28:14,286
So, it doesn't matter
if they
are into what we are into, like

534
00:28:14,286 --> 00:28:19,160
I don't even know
what I mean.
I had to look up on LinkedIn on

535
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,750
my wife's title, is
for her
company.

536
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:24,356
She manages a team of 140
people.

537
00:28:24,356 --> 00:28:28,484
I don't know
her title, right?
I'll ask her all the time what

538
00:28:28,484 --> 00:28:30,410
she's doing
and what she's
going through, and she'll,

539
00:28:30,410 --> 00:28:33,360
she'll share in full
detail
all the things that are

540
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:37,155
happening, and she doesn't ask

me, How did your thing go?

541
00:28:37,155 --> 00:28:40,950
I mean, most of that sounds she
does, but I don't have a whole

542
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:45,210
lot to share itself, but I think

that's the fact of life, you

543
00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:47,550
know, we're just going to keep

moving forward.

544
00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:49,586
Thank you, Junaid.
I want to go
to Sid, because I

545
00:28:49,586 --> 00:28:51,414
promised to bring Sid in here a
few minutes
ago.

546
00:28:51,414 --> 00:28:53,775
Sid, go ahead.
Sid Meadows: Oh, thank you,


547
00:28:53,783 --> 00:28:55,207
Ralph.
And Jonathan raised his pepper

548
00:28:55,207 --> 00:28:58,248
too, by the way.
So I
have a couple of things

549
00:28:58,248 --> 00:29:01,743
here to this lady that asked the

question, it sounds like

550
00:29:01,743 --> 00:29:04,902
there's some underlying things
there
that I would probably

551
00:29:04,902 --> 00:29:08,154
want to sit down and explore
with my
partner, my spouse,

552
00:29:08,154 --> 00:29:10,752
and one of them appeared to be
money,
because she mentioned

553
00:29:10,752 --> 00:29:12,918
money in the conversation in the
post,
right?

554
00:29:12,918 --> 00:29:16,488
So I'd want to sit down and
understand, but I would also


555
00:29:16,496 --> 00:29:20,080
say to her, there is the
opportunity exists for you to


556
00:29:20,088 --> 00:29:23,580
make money on your podcast, you
just have to figure out what it

557
00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:27,102
is you're looking for and who
are the right sponsors, and but

558
00:29:27,102 --> 00:29:31,320
you can generate revenue with
your podcast, so don't let that

559
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,787
necessarily be the barrier, but
I think you got to have a


560
00:29:34,795 --> 00:29:37,458
conversation about it.
The second thing I would say is,

561
00:29:37,458 --> 00:29:41,370
you
know, my wife is actually
the reason that I'm a podcaster,

562
00:29:41,370 --> 00:29:46,472

because she introduced me on a
trip to Serial, and I was like,

563
00:29:46,472 --> 00:29:51,454
what the heck is this, and wow,
this is really cool, and I want

564
00:29:51,454 --> 00:29:55,116
to do this one day, and it took
me several years, but I'll also

565
00:29:55,116 --> 00:30:00,162
say that part of the reason I
don't have this struggle is my


566
00:30:00,170 --> 00:30:02,962
life.
A sought-after podcast guest in

567
00:30:02,962 --> 00:30:07,260
her industry, I bet
she's been
on 100 podcasts as a guest or

568
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:11,292
panels, and so she
understands
what it is, but she doesn't

569
00:30:11,292 --> 00:30:14,748
listen.
My wife is an
executive in the

570
00:30:14,748 --> 00:30:17,781
healthcare industry, she, DR:
okay, Sid Meadows: healthcare,

571
00:30:17,781 --> 00:30:20,931
she is
in the technology, she,
she's the chief information

572
00:30:20,931 --> 00:30:24,930
officer of
a hospital system,
as of Monday, by the way, got a

573
00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:28,818
new job, and
she was the chief
information, she was the chief

574
00:30:28,818 --> 00:30:30,974
information
officer of a
children's hospital in Fort

575
00:30:30,974 --> 00:30:34,089
Worth for 15 years, and
she's
just done a lot of really cool

576
00:30:34,089 --> 00:30:37,470
things in her career, and
she
is a sought-after thought

577
00:30:37,470 --> 00:30:40,260
leader, sits on panel

discussions, travels around the

578
00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:43,770
world speaking on the topic, and

she's in the middle of getting

579
00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:46,826
her PhD, and almost finished

with it, actually.

580
00:30:46,826 --> 00:30:49,680
And so this was the other thing
that I was
gonna say that

581
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,488
works really well for us,
especially when we empty


582
00:30:52,496 --> 00:30:55,238
nested.
Sunday is our day, we have to

583
00:30:55,238 --> 00:30:57,522
work on the weekends.
I
do, she does, she's studying

584
00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:00,660
a lot, trying to finish her

thesis, and all that stuff, but

585
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:04,500
we dedicate Sunday as our day.

That's the day we don't go into

586
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:07,860
our offices, we do things

together, we go places, and that

587
00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:11,580
actually has helped us stay

connected, because our weeks are

588
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:17,340
so crazy, and so setting aside

that time to just for us, I

589
00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:19,980
think, would be really important

for people to think about, how

590
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:23,910
can you step away from your

passion, your craft, your

591
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,740
podcasting, and dedicate that

time to your spouse, your

592
00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:30,440
partner?
The other thing that I
would

593
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,158
say, last thing I'll say, is to
Alex, I appreciate the


594
00:31:34,166 --> 00:31:38,360
support, Alex, and I know you
and Lucy have had a really good

595
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,628
time doing what you're doing,
but I'm going to disagree with


596
00:31:41,636 --> 00:31:44,106
you.
Podcasting is not a hobby, it is

597
00:31:44,106 --> 00:31:47,846
a job for me.
It is a job,
it is part of my

598
00:31:47,846 --> 00:31:50,602
career, it's part of my
business, it's a key
component

599
00:31:50,602 --> 00:31:54,018
of my business today.
And so I don't view it as a


600
00:31:54,026 --> 00:31:57,370
hobby, I view it as something
that helps me grow, helps me


601
00:31:57,378 --> 00:32:00,390
make money, helps my business
make money, and helps support my

602
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:02,716

family.
Alex: I didn't mean to use that.

603
00:32:02,716 --> 00:32:03,429


I know, Jonathan.

604
00:32:03,429 --> 00:32:08,025
I just wanted to say this.
I meant, whatever
your thing

605
00:32:08,025 --> 00:32:12,015
is, job, hobby, whatever.
I know I use hobby,
and I know

606
00:32:12,015 --> 00:32:13,770
that I totally understand what
you mean, Finn.

607
00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:15,120
Ralph Estep Jr.: Thank you, Sid.



608
00:32:15,128 --> 00:32:16,848
I just wanted to say one thing
here, and then we're going to


609
00:32:16,856 --> 00:32:18,588
move on to the second question.
I think there's a practical


610
00:32:18,596 --> 00:32:21,315
answer here too, and it goes
along the lines of what Sid just

611
00:32:21,315 --> 00:32:24,435

said, if you're treating your
podcast like a business, then


612
00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:26,842
tracking expenses, building an
audience, working towards


613
00:32:26,850 --> 00:32:29,655
revenue, that's a different
conversation than I just like


614
00:32:29,663 --> 00:32:31,677
doing it.
When there's a financial

615
00:32:31,677 --> 00:32:34,416
framework around it,
even
skeptical partners often come

616
00:32:34,416 --> 00:32:36,870
around if they see you're

actually making money with this,

617
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:40,320
and it stops being a hobby and

starts being a side business

618
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,444
with the plan.
But let's go
ahead and move on

619
00:32:42,444 --> 00:32:44,422
to our second.
DR: Jonathan might have had


620
00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:45,642
something to..
Ralph Estep Jr.: I apologize,


621
00:32:45,650 --> 00:32:46,080
Jonathan.
Go ahead.

622
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,980
Jonathan Howard: So, I was just
gonna mention one, you know,

623
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:55,020
obviously being single makes it
a lot easier, but two, having

624
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:58,260
those.. you know, your partner

doesn't have to be into

625
00:32:58,260 --> 00:33:02,514
podcasting if they are awesome.
Ralph Estep Jr.: DR, you want to

626
00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:04,660

go ahead and read our second
question, because I think it


627
00:33:04,668 --> 00:33:08,250
kind of goes along the lines of,
I sure do.

628
00:33:08,250 --> 00:33:11,886
Okay, so question
number two,
my wife actually listens to

629
00:33:11,886 --> 00:33:16,620
every episode I put
out, she's
my biggest fan, but lately she's

630
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:21,404
starting to started
giving me
feedback, and some of it is

631
00:33:21,404 --> 00:33:24,707
pretty critical.
I don't
know how to tell her

632
00:33:24,707 --> 00:33:28,288
that her notes are kind of
bumming me out
without hurting

633
00:33:28,288 --> 00:33:30,978
her feelings.
Anyone else have navigating


634
00:33:30,986 --> 00:33:35,275
feedback from a spouse?
Oh, I can jump in here, because

635
00:33:35,275 --> 00:33:38,415
so I
was very transparent.
So, at the beginning of my

636
00:33:38,415 --> 00:33:41,379
podcast journey,
my wife says,
"You know what, I'll help you

637
00:33:41,379 --> 00:33:43,689
with this podcast,
and I said,
'Oh, that'd be great.

638
00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:45,440
And she says, 'How about
I do
this?

639
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,349
How about I help you with your
transcripts?

640
00:33:47,349 --> 00:33:50,310
I said,
'That would be really
helpful, because I didn't know I

641
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:51,780
wasn't
aware of all the AI
tools.

642
00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:54,285
And this one day, she, she sends
me
a message.

643
00:33:54,285 --> 00:33:58,150
She goes, 'If you say one more
time like, or if you
say this,

644
00:33:58,150 --> 00:34:01,830
or if you say that, she goes,
'You're driving me
crazy, and

645
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:05,664
I gotta be honest with you, I
was very defensive
about it at

646
00:34:05,664 --> 00:34:08,255
first, and I said, "You're
right, though, I'm doing
all

647
00:34:08,255 --> 00:34:10,728
these filler words.
So, for me, it was really.. it

648
00:34:10,728 --> 00:34:13,503
was
helpful to me, like I
think you had to understand,

649
00:34:13,503 --> 00:34:16,518
like, where
the feedback was
coming from, and she just said,

650
00:34:16,518 --> 00:34:19,962
"Ralph, if
you say that one
more time, I'm going to lose my

651
00:34:19,962 --> 00:34:21,774
stuff.
Well, I
appreciate that

652
00:34:21,774 --> 00:34:25,110
feedback, but it was a little
hard coming from
her at first.

653
00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:28,121
Does anybody else want to
comment about ever
getting

654
00:34:28,121 --> 00:34:30,179
feedback from somebody that you
care about?

655
00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:32,550
Alex: Well, when you wish for

something, you might get it

656
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:34,985
there, Ralph.
That's the, that's
the moral

657
00:34:34,985 --> 00:34:38,134
of that story, and it is hard,
but I know Ty does
something

658
00:34:38,134 --> 00:34:39,590
to Ralph Estep Jr.: say.
Go ahead,
Knikki.

659
00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,197
Glad to see you this morning.
Knikki: Good to see you too.

660
00:34:42,197 --> 00:34:43,860
I
was about to give you a
heart emoji, Alex.

661
00:34:43,860 --> 00:34:46,757
I agree with you
that
definitely be careful what you

662
00:34:46,757 --> 00:34:48,929
wish for, because you, you

really might get it, and it

663
00:34:48,929 --> 00:34:51,257
might not be exactly what you

thought it was going to be.

664
00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:55,469
But I will say this: there's the

reason why feedback sometimes

665
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,782
hurts is because of our own

egos, and just.

666
00:34:59,782 --> 00:35:04,342
Is allowing yourself to say to
observe the
situation from,

667
00:35:04,342 --> 00:35:08,556
like, a if you were a filmmaker,
you know, if
you're watching a

668
00:35:08,556 --> 00:35:11,874
movie, your ego is not involved,
you're
you're watching the

669
00:35:11,874 --> 00:35:15,386
movie for pure entertainment
purposes and
for joy, and, and

670
00:35:15,386 --> 00:35:18,160
all of that, and so when
someone's giving you
feedback,

671
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,748
if you can approach the
situation in that same way,


672
00:35:20,756 --> 00:35:23,658
where you're taking your ego out
of it, and you're just observing

673
00:35:23,658 --> 00:35:26,544

what this person is saying,
and genuinely hearing it, that's

674
00:35:26,544 --> 00:35:29,670

great.
And if it hurts you in the

675
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:33,580
moment, it's okay too,
because
we need sometimes to feel a

676
00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:36,930
little bit of pain to
move
forward, and that's okay.

677
00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:40,980
It's not a bad thing to feel

pain, because, as Ralph noted,

678
00:35:41,010 --> 00:35:43,850
when he did feel that pain, it

hurt his ego.

679
00:35:43,850 --> 00:35:46,779
Okay, it didn't hurt him, and it
didn't hurt his
business, and

680
00:35:46,779 --> 00:35:48,772
it didn't hurt the people who he
helped.

681
00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:51,180
The only
thing that it hurt
was his ego.

682
00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:54,120
Then you say, "Oh, okay, this

hurt my ego a little bit, but

683
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,480
now let me put that to the side,

and let me actually hear what

684
00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:01,380
the constructive criticism was,
and see if there's a nugget, a

685
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:04,530
gem, a pearl that I can take

from that and actually improve

686
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,100
my podcast, because oftentimes

the advice that we get from

687
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:12,360
people, it doesn't come from Sid

or Dr. or BC or Jonathan or

688
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,240
Ralph or anybody you know, or

Janae, it doesn't come from

689
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,390
people that we necessarily

always want to hear it from,

690
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:21,270
because all these people in the
room do their, you know, they

691
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:23,730
do podcasting, so when we take

feedback, we're a little bit

692
00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:26,910
more open and we're a little bit

more receptive to hearing that

693
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:30,060
feedback, but oftentimes the

feedback that we get comes from

694
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:31,710
the people who we least expect.


695
00:36:31,718 --> 00:36:33,924
It could come from a man, a
woman.

696
00:36:33,924 --> 00:36:37,440
We, I always joke with my
mom
and her boyfriend anytime he

697
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,770
tells us anything, we always say

we just got mansplained and

698
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:42,314
stuff like that.
We joke about
it, sort of in

699
00:36:42,314 --> 00:36:45,266
the same way that Dr. jokes with
her husband, so
we'll make

700
00:36:45,266 --> 00:36:48,740
these little light jokes about
it, but we realized
that when

701
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,580
someone is giving us feedback,
it might not come from
the

702
00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:54,061
person that we expected it to,
it might not even come from


703
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:57,455
the person who we wanted it to
come from, but there, there's a

704
00:36:57,455 --> 00:37:01,034
reason why that feedback was
given to us, and we need to take

705
00:37:01,034 --> 00:37:03,837

heed of that, let our egos put
our egos to the side.

706
00:37:03,837 --> 00:37:06,636
It can be
bruised for a
minute, but it's going to be

707
00:37:06,636 --> 00:37:09,724
okay if we heed the
lesson and
make the improvements to our

708
00:37:09,724 --> 00:37:12,014
podcast, because that
feedback
was meant for you.

709
00:37:12,014 --> 00:37:14,572
It was meant for you, and we
need
to hear that.

710
00:37:14,572 --> 00:37:18,027
We may not, it might not be what
we want to
hear, but we need

711
00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:19,565
to hear it.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Thank you,


712
00:37:19,573 --> 00:37:20,660
Knikki.
I agree, and I want to go to

713
00:37:20,660 --> 00:37:21,420
Sid.
Sid, go ahead.

714
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:25,890
Sid Meadows: So, if the your

spouse is giving you partners,

715
00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:30,060
giving you feedback like you

said, just what I did, I just

716
00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:34,530
said like, likes and ums, I

would say that's constructive

717
00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:36,609
feedback.
It may not come across
as

718
00:37:36,609 --> 00:37:38,469
constructive feedback, but
you're getting constructive


719
00:37:38,477 --> 00:37:41,570
feedback of those kinds of
things that we all struggle


720
00:37:41,578 --> 00:37:44,480
with, because we all do.
I can't even think about how

721
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,150
many times
I use the word like
or write in my content, but and

722
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:51,930
there it is.

Okay, so but if you're getting

723
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,740
feedback like, well, you didn't
answer that question, or you

724
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:57,803
should have gone deeper, or why
did you answer the question

725
00:37:57,803 --> 00:38:00,568
that way, or you should ask
better
questions of that

726
00:38:00,568 --> 00:38:03,780
guest, and then your partner is
not your
ideal listener.

727
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:07,632
I just would smile and say thank
you, because
really the

728
00:38:07,632 --> 00:38:11,237
feedback you want is from your
ideal listener and
telling you

729
00:38:11,237 --> 00:38:14,640
what they want to hear more of,
so that you can
improve your

730
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,986
content to attract more of them.
So I would just
smile and say

731
00:38:17,986 --> 00:38:20,130
thank you.
Ralph Estep Jr.: I think that's

732
00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:21,804
a very valid point.
Does anybody want to comment on

733
00:38:21,804 --> 00:38:23,340
this mailbag?

If not, we're going to go ahead

734
00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:25,959
and move on to the next one.
DR.
But does anybody want to

735
00:38:25,959 --> 00:38:28,090
comment on this one?
Alex: I just find it


736
00:38:28,098 --> 00:38:30,168
interesting.
The last two questions, one is

737
00:38:30,168 --> 00:38:33,702
supportive,
one is not
supportive, and it's just.. it's

738
00:38:33,702 --> 00:38:36,221
a dance, and that's
what
relationships are all about.

739
00:38:36,221 --> 00:38:39,614
So you're not going to
please
everybody, and you just try to

740
00:38:39,614 --> 00:38:42,490
do the best you can.
Ralph Estep Jr.: I think that is

741
00:38:42,490 --> 00:38:43,787

sage advice, Alex.
I appreciate that.

742
00:38:43,787 --> 00:38:46,140
Go ahead, DR. You want to
go
on to our third question.

743
00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:47,934
DR: Yep, third and final

question.

744
00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:52,104
I'm a single parent.
My kids are teenagers, and they

745
00:38:52,104 --> 00:38:56,770
are embarrassed by my podcast,
genuinely mortified that I do


746
00:38:56,778 --> 00:38:59,687
this.
I keep the topics totally clean,

747
00:38:59,687 --> 00:39:02,850
but act like, but they
act
like I'm doing something

748
00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:05,130
shameful.
Has anyone dealt with
family

749
00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:08,190
members who are embarrassed by
your show?

750
00:39:08,850 --> 00:39:10,404
Ralph Estep Jr.: All right,

that's a good one.

751
00:39:10,404 --> 00:39:12,510
I don't, I don't honestly have
an answer
for this.

752
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:14,640
Jonathan Howard: I do.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Go ahead,


753
00:39:14,648 --> 00:39:17,040
Jonathan.
Jonathan Howard: Tuss, and I'll

754
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,710
keep it PG, tough DR: breasts,
chicken breasts, Jonathan

755
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:23,930
Howard: yeah, tough.

yeah, tough, tough tootsies.

756
00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:27,789
I mean, I think when it comes
down
to it, you have to do

757
00:39:27,789 --> 00:39:31,176
something that is right for you,
even if
your kids are

758
00:39:31,176 --> 00:39:33,024
teenagers, things that are right
for your
business, things that

759
00:39:33,024 --> 00:39:37,026
are right for you to grow, and
you got to
get out there and

760
00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:41,692
do, you know, do the thing, and
it's not easy,
so take the

761
00:39:41,692 --> 00:39:44,265
time and do it.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Good point.

762
00:39:44,265 --> 00:39:45,604
Go
ahead, Sid.
I see you want to make a

763
00:39:45,604 --> 00:39:46,962
comment.
This is, I'm
loving Sid's

764
00:39:46,962 --> 00:39:48,720
comments today.
He is really leaning in today,

765
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,800
and
I appreciate it.
Yeah.

766
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:52,234
Sid Meadows: Oh, I'm back

finally, right?

767
00:39:52,234 --> 00:39:53,560
Except I'm driving to the
doctors.

768
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,935
I've got
the doctor every
Friday morning for a shot.

769
00:39:55,935 --> 00:39:57,510
But anyways, that's
another
story.

770
00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:02,668
But my, I think this is natural.
Your kids
specifically, your

771
00:40:02,668 --> 00:40:06,138
kids don't know how to deal
with, let's
say, quote unquote

772
00:40:06,138 --> 00:40:10,197
famous or infamous parents, or
parents
that live out loud or

773
00:40:10,197 --> 00:40:13,696
live publicly, and I know that
my
kids were a bit

774
00:40:13,696 --> 00:40:16,375
embarrassed.
Oh, my dad's podcaster kind of

775
00:40:16,375 --> 00:40:19,774
thing
for a while, but they're
just not me.

776
00:40:19,774 --> 00:40:22,964
My kids didn't grow up
around
anybody in a family being a

777
00:40:22,964 --> 00:40:26,700
public figure, being infamous.

Some of these, not famous, but

778
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:29,520
you know, I just think it's

something they have to learn to

779
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,535
understand.
And then, when they
see how

780
00:40:31,535 --> 00:40:35,352
much joy it brings you, I think
that they start to
change

781
00:40:35,352 --> 00:40:38,454
their perspective, or when they
experience, or they
see what

782
00:40:38,454 --> 00:40:42,012
people are saying about you in a
positive way, it starts
to

783
00:40:42,012 --> 00:40:45,646
change their perspective, and I
can tell you almost every day,


784
00:40:45,654 --> 00:40:50,034
my son asked me about my
podcast, and how my podcast is


785
00:40:50,042 --> 00:40:53,604
doing, where before he wouldn't
even acknowledge that I was a


786
00:40:53,612 --> 00:40:56,755
podcaster, so it's like Alex
said earlier, this is like a


787
00:40:56,763 --> 00:41:00,135
journey you're on with your
family, with your friends, with

788
00:41:00,135 --> 00:41:03,340
your partner, spouse, you're on
a journey with them, and


789
00:41:03,348 --> 00:41:06,975
hopefully they lean in to see,
they lean in, and they get to


790
00:41:06,983 --> 00:41:09,918
experience how much joy this
brings you, and that they will


791
00:41:09,926 --> 00:41:13,456
start to support you in the way
that we all really truly need to

792
00:41:13,456 --> 00:41:15,500

be supported.
And I'm just very grateful that

793
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:17,670
I have that
support in my
family.

794
00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:19,830
Ralph Estep Jr.: I agree, Sid,

and I want to reread something

795
00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:21,600
Billy Thorpe put in the

comments, he said that's a

796
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,510
default responsibility of a

parent to embarrass them, double

797
00:41:24,510 --> 00:41:26,190
down on it.
Yeah, Billy, I tend
to agree

798
00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:29,994
with you on that one.
Mine are 2025 and 28 so almost


799
00:41:30,002 --> 00:41:33,669
29 So I think that's my goal was
to embarrass them.

800
00:41:33,669 --> 00:41:36,120
Did anybody
else want to
comment on this one before we

801
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,120
get to our engine?
Alex: Do you want to respond to

802
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,420
what Billy said?
Go ahead, Ralph Estep Jr.: Alex.

803
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:43,811
Alex: He got so famous he

actually left the country.

804
00:41:43,811 --> 00:41:46,342
Okay, let's just put it out
there, you
know.

805
00:41:46,342 --> 00:41:49,836
He doesn't know that, because he
just left, and you
know, I

806
00:41:49,836 --> 00:41:53,886
mean, we all know Sid is famous,
and all, and everything
else,

807
00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:57,606
but he's not Billy Famous.
And Ralph, I know you got all,


808
00:41:57,614 --> 00:42:01,170
you got 47 podcasts, but you're
really not Billy Famous, so I


809
00:42:01,178 --> 00:42:06,108
mean, that's Ralph Estep Jr.: I
am definitely
not Billy or

810
00:42:06,108 --> 00:42:09,390
Alex famous, Alex: Joe Rogan.
I'm infamous,
that's right.

811
00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:11,276
Ralph Estep Jr.: Billy has

joined us on stage.

812
00:42:11,276 --> 00:42:14,040
Billy, did you want to remark
about those
comments?

813
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,066
No, Alex is for the first time,
I think I agree with
him.

814
00:42:18,066 --> 00:42:21,396
I'm very famous in my own mind,
but I'm still famous.


815
00:42:21,404 --> 00:42:24,062
Knikki, go ahead.
I see you wanted to comment as

816
00:42:24,062 --> 00:42:24,810
well.
Go
ahead, Knikki.

817
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,431
Knikki: I do have a question.
I
don't have kids, thank God,

818
00:42:28,431 --> 00:42:31,326
and I'm single, thank God, all
of
that by choice, because

819
00:42:31,326 --> 00:42:33,424
these problems are not my cup of
tea.


820
00:42:33,432 --> 00:42:37,990
But I do have a question, and a
lot of times we say that people

821
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:41,010
who are following their dream,
people who are following their


822
00:42:41,018 --> 00:42:44,550
passion and doing what they care
about support other people who


823
00:42:44,558 --> 00:42:48,055
are following theirs, and I
think all of us in this room


824
00:42:48,063 --> 00:42:50,634
definitely fit that bill.
Like, if I were to tell you guys

825
00:42:50,634 --> 00:42:52,915
that
I'm, you know, pursuing a
YouTube channel or whatever, you

826
00:42:52,915 --> 00:42:54,816

guys would be like, 'Oh,
that's awesome, great, good

827
00:42:54,816 --> 00:42:57,405
stuff, and
you would never
have anything negative to say

828
00:42:57,405 --> 00:43:01,014
about it, or
even think about
it, because you would know what

829
00:43:01,014 --> 00:43:05,560
that journey is
like, so my
question is, does the same thing

830
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,007
apply to kids?
Is
the reason that they are

831
00:43:09,007 --> 00:43:11,670
not supportive, or they're

experiencing secondhand

832
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:14,250
embarrassment because their

parent is a so-called public

833
00:43:14,250 --> 00:43:18,660
figure, because, or partly due

to the fact that they are not

834
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:23,070
actually doing anything that

they personally are passionate

835
00:43:23,070 --> 00:43:25,950
about, so they don't understand
the experience and the journey

836
00:43:25,950 --> 00:43:28,230
of it.
I Ralph Estep Jr.: think that is

837
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:29,412
a
very interesting question,
Knikki.

838
00:43:29,412 --> 00:43:31,189
And I think there's some
truth
to what you just said.

839
00:43:31,189 --> 00:43:33,490
I really do.
I think there's
validness in

840
00:43:33,490 --> 00:43:34,710
that.
I really do.

841
00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:37,581
Does anybody with Knikki?
Sid Meadows: Yes.

842
00:43:37,581 --> 00:43:39,968
So, Knikki,
this is a really
interesting question.

843
00:43:39,968 --> 00:43:46,077
I can tell you, like I
see my
daughter and her excitement

844
00:43:46,077 --> 00:43:51,072
around what she's
doing in her
internship, that she's 23 she's

845
00:43:51,072 --> 00:43:56,096
discovering what
she loves to
do, and she's really leaning

846
00:43:56,096 --> 00:43:59,027
into the things
that she's
discovering it, and I think

847
00:43:59,027 --> 00:44:02,506
that's the important
thing, is
we all had to discover what we

848
00:44:02,506 --> 00:44:04,680
really enjoy doing. 20
years
ago, I didn't know about

849
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,570
podcasting, and I would have, if

you would have told me I was

850
00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:10,032
going to be a podcaster one day,

I'd have laughed at you,

851
00:44:10,032 --> 00:44:13,566
right?
But, and, but it's a joy for me

852
00:44:13,566 --> 00:44:17,266
to see my kids discovering what
they love to do.

853
00:44:17,266 --> 00:44:21,963
My son got to
college and is
thriving because he's doing and

854
00:44:21,963 --> 00:44:26,130
studying what he
wants to
study and really embracing all

855
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:30,442
of his classes so
much so that
he's got the second highest

856
00:44:30,442 --> 00:44:33,960
grade point average in
his
class in college, which is

857
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
fantastic for a kid that

struggled through high school,

858
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,330
like struggled to get B's and

C's through high school, right,

859
00:44:39,450 --> 00:44:42,295
but Nikki, I have a question for

you.

860
00:44:42,295 --> 00:44:45,750
You're a teacher.
What do your kids, air quote,

861
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:48,270
think
about you being a
podcaster?

862
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:50,460
Have they do they know, and have

they shared with you what they

863
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:52,995
think about it?
Knikki: That is a great


864
00:44:53,003 --> 00:44:55,004
question.
And so I'll tell you my

865
00:44:55,004 --> 00:44:58,370
experience.
So I am a wide
open book when

866
00:44:58,370 --> 00:45:02,220
it comes to entrepreneur.
Worship the fact
that I have

867
00:45:02,220 --> 00:45:05,670
businesses, I help people go
straight, I podcast, I
have my

868
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:08,856
YouTube channel, and I don't
drop all of that
information

869
00:45:08,856 --> 00:45:13,440
on them on day one, but what I
will say is I have
businesses,

870
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,805
I will say that, and I'll be
kind of vague about it,
and

871
00:45:16,805 --> 00:45:20,434
then whenever the vibe is right
in the classroom, I will
drop

872
00:45:20,434 --> 00:45:23,586
a little bit more information.
I'll be like, oh
yeah, I was

873
00:45:23,586 --> 00:45:26,580
just talking about that on my
podcast last night,
and I do

874
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:29,335
it in a subtle way like that.
And then they're like,
wait,

875
00:45:29,335 --> 00:45:31,562
wait, wait, what?
You have a podcast, and I'm

876
00:45:31,562 --> 00:45:34,020
like, yeah.

And then they'll say, when I

877
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:36,750
teach high school kids, by the

way, and they'll say, oh well,

878
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,615
can we find it?
Can we look it
up?

879
00:45:38,615 --> 00:45:40,912
And there's a no phone policy in
the school, so the
kids can't

880
00:45:40,912 --> 00:45:43,104
look it up on their phones, they
have to look it up
on their

881
00:45:43,104 --> 00:45:46,822
Chromebooks, but they will find
it, they will 100%
find the

882
00:45:46,822 --> 00:45:49,870
podcast, and they'll be like,
"Is this you, the gentle
year?

883
00:45:49,870 --> 00:45:52,017
And I'm like, "Yeah.
And then they'll hit play and do

884
00:45:52,017 --> 00:45:53,834
all
that kind of stuff.
And, of course, they're

885
00:45:53,834 --> 00:45:56,434
teenagers, so
they're going to
laugh and giggle when they hear

886
00:45:56,434 --> 00:45:58,820
my voice,
because they don't,
they don't see me in that light

887
00:45:58,820 --> 00:46:00,360
all the..

they don't see me in that light

888
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,140
ever, so when they hear me

talking to a guest, they're

889
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:06,910
like, "Oh, wow.
But what ends up
happening

890
00:46:06,910 --> 00:46:10,100
with the kids is that they get
really interested.

891
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:14,260
They
will ask a few questions
here or there, like, "Oh, you

892
00:46:14,260 --> 00:46:16,629
have a
professional
microphone, where did you get

893
00:46:16,629 --> 00:46:17,994
that?
or this and
that.

894
00:46:17,994 --> 00:46:20,130
They'll start asking questions.
They're very
interested,

895
00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:23,070
they're very intrigued by those
things, they
typically,

896
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:25,805
because they're Gen Zers, and
they're a little bit
more,

897
00:46:25,805 --> 00:46:28,230
they're a little bit more
reserved, and it's not all of


898
00:46:28,238 --> 00:46:31,545
them, but most of them are like
that, that I personally teach,


899
00:46:31,553 --> 00:46:36,155
they're reserved, so they keep a
lot of their observations and


900
00:46:36,163 --> 00:46:40,340
their thoughts to themselves,
because this is a very harsh,


901
00:46:40,348 --> 00:46:43,968
harsh generation.
When it comes to the success of

902
00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:47,227
one another,
they're not
extremely supportive when

903
00:46:47,227 --> 00:46:50,578
somebody, not me
personally,
but of each other, they're not

904
00:46:50,578 --> 00:46:52,980
extremely supportive
when
somebody is doing something

905
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:55,786
outside of the box.
They will
say things like, oh,

906
00:46:55,786 --> 00:46:59,514
who does she think she is, or
every, she
just, she thinks he

907
00:46:59,514 --> 00:47:02,370
or she thinks that they're
better than
everybody, so they

908
00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:05,688
talk, and they've learned the
language of
being a failure,

909
00:47:05,688 --> 00:47:08,790
and they've learned the language
of being a
loser, and they

910
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:11,400
speak that language fluently to
each other.


911
00:47:11,408 --> 00:47:15,546
Unfortunately, so when they see
a teacher who's doing something

912
00:47:15,546 --> 00:47:19,090
outside of the box, and they're
podcasting, or they're running a

913
00:47:19,090 --> 00:47:22,680

business, or they're doing
something like that, it gives


914
00:47:22,688 --> 00:47:26,138
them contrast and a perspective
that they hadn't considered,


915
00:47:26,146 --> 00:47:29,388
because most of their teachers
don't do those types of things,

916
00:47:29,388 --> 00:47:33,363
so in a lot of ways they are
inspired by it.

917
00:47:33,363 --> 00:47:38,298
They are
definitely afraid of
doing it because of the social

918
00:47:38,298 --> 00:47:42,030
risk
factor that they may
personally experience if they

919
00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:45,129
tried it
themselves.
This is the generation that is

920
00:47:45,129 --> 00:47:47,484
very attuned
to playing it
safe.

921
00:47:47,484 --> 00:47:52,810
They want to play it safe, but
they do feel
inspired by you

922
00:47:52,810 --> 00:47:55,055
following your own dreams as a
teacher.

923
00:47:55,055 --> 00:47:57,746
They'll
always ask, well, what
are you going to do this summer?

924
00:47:57,746 --> 00:47:59,373
What
are you going to do over
spring break, Miss Fernandez?

925
00:47:59,373 --> 00:48:01,704
What are
you going to do over
the weekend, Miss Fernandez.

926
00:48:01,704 --> 00:48:05,094
They
want to know what you're
doing, because secretly, even

927
00:48:05,094 --> 00:48:09,350
though
they don't say it out
loud, secretly they want to see

928
00:48:09,350 --> 00:48:13,369
you
win, because it inspires
them to feel like they can do it

929
00:48:13,369 --> 00:48:14,790
too.

They just don't say that out

930
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:16,485
loud.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Knikki, thank


931
00:48:16,493 --> 00:48:18,531
you so much.
Sid Meadows: Have a follow up


932
00:48:18,539 --> 00:48:19,696
real quick around.
Ralph Estep Jr.: So then we got

933
00:48:19,696 --> 00:48:21,465
to get the wins in a week,
everybody get ready with their


934
00:48:21,473 --> 00:48:23,064
wins.
Sid Meadows: Yes, sir.

935
00:48:23,064 --> 00:48:26,412
So,
Knikki, it would be
fascinating to follow your

936
00:48:26,412 --> 00:48:30,922
students' journey
in life to
see how many of them you inspire

937
00:48:30,922 --> 00:48:35,754
to step into doing
what they
love to do, into being a content

938
00:48:35,754 --> 00:48:37,830
creator, into being a

podcaster, because you're

939
00:48:37,830 --> 00:48:42,210
sharing so openly the way, and

you're fueling curiosity with

940
00:48:42,210 --> 00:48:44,764
them, which that curiosity could

lead to something great.

941
00:48:44,764 --> 00:48:47,403
So, I hope that you're, you will

follow along with them, and

942
00:48:47,403 --> 00:48:49,980
then come back and report when
one of
them becomes famous.

943
00:48:56,460 --> 00:48:58,620
Ralph Estep Jr.: All right, it

is that time for wins of the

944
00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:00,300
week.
And, Sid, you put a one in


945
00:49:00,308 --> 00:49:02,028
there.
Sid, do you want to start our

946
00:49:02,028 --> 00:49:03,570
win cycle here?
Go ahead,
Sid.

947
00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:05,894
Sid Meadows: Yes, I will.
And
then I have to drop off

948
00:49:05,894 --> 00:49:07,870
because I have to walk into the
doctor's
office.

949
00:49:07,870 --> 00:49:11,166
So, but thank you, Ralph.
You know, this has been
an

950
00:49:11,166 --> 00:49:14,460
amazing week for me.
So, this is this is the week of

951
00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:17,008
the year
that we have our
really big furniture convention

952
00:49:17,008 --> 00:49:21,416
in Chicago
called Neocon.
It only happens once a year, and

953
00:49:21,416 --> 00:49:24,978
there's 30,000
40,000 people
that come, and it's just a

954
00:49:24,978 --> 00:49:29,740
really exciting week
for me,
because I get to meet a lot of

955
00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:32,340
people that listen to my

podcasts and consume my content,

956
00:49:32,340 --> 00:49:34,980
because they stop me in the

hallways, and you know, it's

957
00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:39,120
just, it's a really emotional

week for me too, and this week

958
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:42,510
one of the things that was

really special for me is I got

959
00:49:42,510 --> 00:49:49,260
to visit with and take a picture

with almost every one of my

960
00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:52,753
sponsors, because they were all
there except one of them, and

961
00:49:52,753 --> 00:49:55,925
it just really helped to deepen
the
relationship.

962
00:49:55,925 --> 00:49:59,724
I had one in, not even without
it, without me even
asking

963
00:49:59,724 --> 00:50:01,418
one.
Of them said we were talking

964
00:50:01,418 --> 00:50:03,729
about the show, and how
much
he enjoyed it, and how great

965
00:50:03,729 --> 00:50:06,210
it's been for them, and he

immediately said, without me

966
00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:09,870
asking, I'm in for next year

too, it's not even a question,

967
00:50:09,870 --> 00:50:13,680
we're going to do it again next
year, so it's just been a, it's

968
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,210
been a really great week, lots

of things to celebrate, but I

969
00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:22,530
will boil it down to I'm so

grateful for the relationships

970
00:50:22,530 --> 00:50:25,170
that I have been able to build

inside of the industry that I

971
00:50:25,170 --> 00:50:28,470
have spent my entire career,

because without those

972
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:32,400
relationships I would not be

able to do what I do today or be

973
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,748
where I am today.
So my win is
the relationships

974
00:50:35,748 --> 00:50:39,945
that I've been able to build
over the last 30
years talking

975
00:50:39,945 --> 00:50:44,370
about and selling and leading
teams with all
things about

976
00:50:44,370 --> 00:50:46,350
office furniture.
Ralph Estep Jr.:

977
00:50:46,350 --> 00:50:48,030
Congratulations,
Sid.
Thank you for sharing that.

978
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,040
Let's go to Tim Bryan.
Go ahead,
Tim, you're up.

979
00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:52,230
Tim: All right, thank you so

much, Ralph.

980
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:55,095
You've been doing a fantastic
job this week, I gotta
say,

981
00:50:55,095 --> 00:50:57,591
man.
So I'm thankful for you, but my

982
00:50:57,591 --> 00:50:59,613
win this week..
I've
got two.

983
00:50:59,613 --> 00:51:04,098
First one is on Wednesday.
My twins turned 12,
and

984
00:51:04,098 --> 00:51:09,465
according to them, I am the most
famous and the greatest


985
00:51:09,473 --> 00:51:15,420
podcaster in the world.
So DR: awesome.

986
00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:18,600
Tim: So that always, you know,

tickles me every time they tell

987
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,270
me that they're like, Papa,

you're famous, you're talking to

988
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:23,178
this guy, you're talking to that

gal.

989
00:51:23,178 --> 00:51:25,638
So they turned 12.
They had a great day.

990
00:51:25,638 --> 00:51:29,310
And then this week
I had two
people reach out to me for

991
00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:31,470
interviews on one of my

podcasts.

992
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:36,858
One person was from the UK and
the other person was
based in

993
00:51:36,858 --> 00:51:40,808
Japan, and it was interesting
because I do pod
match, and

994
00:51:40,808 --> 00:51:44,555
you know, I could guess from
there, but these two
guys, out

995
00:51:44,555 --> 00:51:49,398
of nowhere, out of the blue,
decided that they had to
be on

996
00:51:49,398 --> 00:51:54,870
my podcast, and I answered Dave
Jackson's question of the
week

997
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:58,434
by reading their emails to me
about, you know, why they


998
00:51:58,442 --> 00:52:01,730
wanted to be on my show, and all
that kind of good stuff, so I'm

999
00:52:01,730 --> 00:52:04,518
just happy that people from
around the globe are finding my

1000
00:52:04,518 --> 00:52:06,840
podcast and wanting to be a
bond, a part of it.

1001
00:52:07,470 --> 00:52:09,252
Ralph Estep Jr.:
Congratulations,
it's great.

1002
00:52:09,252 --> 00:52:11,490
Go ahead, DR. You are up, my
friend.

1003
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,193
DR: Okay, so this week I had

probably the oldest friend that

1004
00:52:16,272 --> 00:52:20,111
I've ever known, I've known him
for over 50 years.

1005
00:52:20,111 --> 00:52:23,859
He came into Nashville.
He's now a.. he
produces

1006
00:52:23,859 --> 00:52:28,572
movies in LA, and there's
someone who flew him in
to

1007
00:52:28,572 --> 00:52:33,176
talk about their project, and I
got to spend time with Steve


1008
00:52:33,184 --> 00:52:36,620
Ullman, and so that was my win
of the week.

1009
00:52:36,620 --> 00:52:39,122
Ralph Estep Jr.: Very good.
BC,
would you like to share a

1010
00:52:39,122 --> 00:52:41,390
win of the week?
BC Babbles: Ah, nothing too


1011
00:52:41,398 --> 00:52:44,140
crazy going on as of yet.
I still got two big projects

1012
00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:47,140
that
I'm waiting to hear news
on, but in the meantime,

1013
00:52:47,140 --> 00:52:50,281
trucking along,
working hard,
trying to get momentum going in

1014
00:52:50,281 --> 00:52:53,265
multiple
directions, and full
time will be happening this

1015
00:52:53,265 --> 00:52:55,637
weekend, lots
of full time.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Awesome.

1016
00:52:55,637 --> 00:52:58,640
All
right, Knikki, would you
like to share a win of the week?

1017
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,960
Knikki: Yeah, I was just gonna

say that I really appreciate

1018
00:53:01,020 --> 00:53:02,325
Ralph's presence here this week.



1019
00:53:02,333 --> 00:53:04,612
It's really been invaluable.
And then also, I did.

1020
00:53:04,612 --> 00:53:08,260
I have a
couple weeks ago I
had a call with Ralph that was a

1021
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:11,308
15 minute
free call, and I had
asked him about, like,

1022
00:53:11,308 --> 00:53:14,656
monetizing the
podcast,
because I had thought that just

1023
00:53:14,656 --> 00:53:18,336
having a sponsor was
really
the only way to monetize, but

1024
00:53:18,336 --> 00:53:21,140
then when I told him I have
my
own like businesses that tie

1025
00:53:21,470 --> 00:53:24,890
into what I do on my podcast,

and I said that this is what

1026
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,520
I've been advertising on my

podcast currently, is like my

1027
00:53:28,820 --> 00:53:31,714
own, my own stuff.
And he told
me, he goes,

1028
00:53:31,714 --> 00:53:35,150
that's the best way to do it,
that's, or at least,
as a

1029
00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:37,580
really great, honestly, it's the
best way, but it's the
great

1030
00:53:37,580 --> 00:53:40,138
way to monetize your podcast,
because everything
you're

1031
00:53:40,138 --> 00:53:43,880
doing is a lead into what you
already have, this ecosystem


1032
00:53:43,888 --> 00:53:48,010
that you've built out, and I can
see that very, very clearly now.

1033
00:53:48,010 --> 00:53:49,780


Every, every episode, I'm able

1034
00:53:49,870 --> 00:53:52,840
to pull something from whatever
it is that I'm doing in the

1035
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,860
education space and embed that

into the episode, and it's just

1036
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:57,730
awesome.
I love it.

1037
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,420
Ralph Estep Jr.: Awesome, that

is great.

1038
00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:01,971
Glad to hear that, Jonathan.
Do you have a win you
would

1039
00:54:01,971 --> 00:54:03,980
like to share?
Jonathan Howard: I will share.

1040
00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:07,311
I
am officially out of the
hospital now for two days.

1041
00:54:07,311 --> 00:54:12,091
I was
in for about five or six
days, and Raph, you'll be very

1042
00:54:12,091 --> 00:54:16,470
happy
to know that I am still
making money on the podcast.

1043
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:17,922
Ralph Estep Jr.: That's awesome
news.

1044
00:54:17,922 --> 00:54:19,444
Well, thank you, Jonathan.
I'll share.

1045
00:54:19,444 --> 00:54:22,545
I got two wins this
week.
Number one win was getting to

1046
00:54:22,545 --> 00:54:25,201
meet my grandson this week,

which was an amazing thing.

1047
00:54:25,201 --> 00:54:28,413
And last night I wrote a song
for
him, and I'm gonna.. it's

1048
00:54:28,413 --> 00:54:31,533
gonna be released on iTunes, on
Spotify, on iHeart Media, and

1049
00:54:31,584 --> 00:54:34,566
it's a lullaby from Grandpop to
grandson, and I can't even

1050
00:54:34,617 --> 00:54:37,015
listen to it because I just

break down crying.

1051
00:54:37,015 --> 00:54:40,200
But that's that is really my win
of the
week, and the other win

1052
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,852
of the week is having the
opportunity
to host this.

1053
00:54:42,852 --> 00:54:45,844
This week has been, it's been a
challenge, but
it's really

1054
00:54:45,844 --> 00:54:49,018
been, it's been a lot of fun,
and I've appreciated
everyone

1055
00:54:49,018 --> 00:54:51,454
that's helped out and stepped up
to help me.

1056
00:54:51,454 --> 00:54:53,691
So, I
just want to thank
everybody for that.

1057
00:54:53,691 --> 00:54:57,005
There's one more win I
want to
list here, because some Baza put

1058
00:54:57,005 --> 00:55:00,144
this in the live
stream, and
he said my win of the week was

1059
00:55:00,144 --> 00:55:01,993
my part.
Her
listened to my podcast on

1060
00:55:01,993 --> 00:55:04,470
my current series and gave me
some
positive remarks.

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I love it when I get to receive
comments from
her as we

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discuss about the podcast.
So, Sambaza, thank you
so much

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for sharing that.
That goes right along with what

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we
talked about today.
So, again, don't forget, no show

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on Monday,
and then we're
coming in Tuesday with Ariel

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Nissenblatt, so make
sure you
make a point to join in on

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Tuesday morning.
We're
talking about podcast

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growth.
She's got some great ideas.

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00:55:26,043 --> 00:55:28,972
She
actually is running this
new thing called something about

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00:55:28,972 --> 00:55:32,332
the
trailer park, so she's
going to talk about the podcast

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00:55:32,332 --> 00:55:34,758
trailers,
making your content
more easy to find.

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So I just want to thank

everybody again for all your

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support this week, and whatever
you do today, make it a great

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day, and make it a great

weekend, and we will see you

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again on Tuesday.
Be well, my friends.