502. Tools and Tech That Make Podcasting Faster and Easier

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Good morning podcasters.
Today is Thursday, April 23rd,

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2026, and today the latest
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headlines, including AI editing
tools, free video creation and

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platform changes that could
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I am your host Mark Ronick and
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have Dr. Faye, Ralph Estep,
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So today we didn't finish our
news stories from yesterday.

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There was a lot of tech stories
about different new pieces of

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gear, updates to popular
applications that podcasters

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use.
So we figured, let's spill that

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into today because a little side
note that maybe we haven't

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really made official on
Thursdays, we try to make it a

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little more techie.
That could be.

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It's a pretty wide range of
things, but yet sometimes it

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might be equipment, sometimes it
might be software, sometimes it

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may be all of the above.
We'll today get into the news

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side of that.
But first, I have a couple of

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little things I wanted to share
with you.

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First, a community shout out if
you've been following us since

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we rebooted our podcast
evaluation series.

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We used to do that maybe a
couple of years ago and then we

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brought it back probably, I
don't know, maybe 5-6 months

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ago, one of the first ones, if
not the first one.

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Dr. might remember if it was the
first one, but there was a show

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called the Runner's Soul that we
broke down soul spelled SOLE and

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the host is a it was the first.
OK cool.

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And the host was is a
podiatrist, Dr. Sharon Miller,

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and she posted to our Facebook
group just recently.

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Maybe it was last night and it
was a milestone that she shared

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with us.
She her show just hit 2500

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downloads and what stood out to
me most is that her post wasn't

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really about the number.
It was really more about the

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impact that it's made on her.
She shared that there were

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moments early on where she
questioned whether the podcast

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was worth the time or whether
anyone would even listen.

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But hearing from runners and her
own patients that it's helping

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them is what's kept her going.
For her, this podcast is about

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helping people understand their
feet better, deal with pain, and

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keep going with more confidence.
That's a beautiful reminder of

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what podcasting can do.
So thank you for sharing that.

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Sharon or Doctor Miller.
I think it's OK that I call her

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Sharon.
And it was such a pleasure

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breaking down your show,
bringing that series back with

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your show.
And Sharon even reached out to

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me personally at the end of
March because she hadn't even

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realized that we had evaluated
her show until just recently,

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even though, like I said, that
was probably like 5 or 6 months

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ago.
And she's asked, she wants to

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resubmit.
She's got new shows now, she's

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taken some of our advice and she
wants us to break it down again.

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So I've told her to absolutely
submit and we will get to that.

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Tomorrow we'll announce what
show we're going to be

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evaluating next.
Somebody from the community

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who's submitted their show.
We will share that more with you

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tomorrow, right?
So the way I want to do this, I

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want to bring back a segment
that we haven't done in so long.

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It's our icebreaker segment.
This is something where I just

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like to warm us up based on what
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for the rest of the show.
So this is a tech related

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question, shouldn't be too
difficult to find an answer.

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What's one piece of podcasting
gear or software, AI excluded,

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that you can't live without?
And I say AI excluded because I

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think I could make a case that
almost all of us could probably

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point to an AI tool that's
something that we're in

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currently feeling like we
couldn't live without.

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So I just want to get that off
the table and get to some of the

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more traditional stuff.
And again, it doesn't have to be

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hardware.
It can be software, apps or

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something else that I'm not
thinking of at the moment, so

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let's go.
I'll jump right in there and

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I'll tell you what mine is my 24
inch prompter sitting right here

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in front of me as I talk here on
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I started off with the Elgato,
the little one that looked like

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a little mini iPad.
And I guess about a year ago I

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moved up to the prompter
people's 27 inch.

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And this is a piece of
technology that I truly cannot

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live without at this point.
It has made a huge impact on me.

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I do video first O videos 1st
and eye contacts important for

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me O that's where if you ask
about tech gear that I have to

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have that is it to my friend.
I love that.

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Yeah, I would love to see that
in action.

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It's been a long time since I've
seen a true teleprompter meaning

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in size, because I'm using the
Elgato teleprompter and I use it

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right now even though I'm not, I
don't even have a script up on

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my screen right now, but I'm
just using it to look at Ralph,

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to look at BC, who has joined us
this morning as well.

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So yeah, I mean, I love it for
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And when I do use the script,
one of the things I have to do

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is really blow it up because the
Elgato Teleprompter is a lot

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smaller than 24 inches.
I think it's maybe 11 inches I

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believe, or at least the newest
one is.

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Mine might even be a little
smaller than that.

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So yeah, BC did you want to
chime in about that?

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Yeah, I would say right now the
piece I cannot live without is

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the one that I purchased as a
result of inspiration from last

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year's Empowered Podcasting
conference, which is the Sure

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MV7 Plus.
Previously I had a Yeti

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microphone which doesn't have
the best or really all that

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great noise cancellation.
So I ended up buying a pop

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filter, a windscreen, an
isolator, putting this whole

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apparatus around it just to make
it sound crisp and clean without

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having to do too much post
production on the sound.

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But the shirt takes care of so
much of it and it wasn't a crazy

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huge purchase, which I'm really
happy about.

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It was just a tiny splurge and
I'm really happy with the

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quality now.
So this is my go to piece at

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this point for podcasting.
Yeah, I can see that.

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I mean, a microphone for sure.
And that is a great microphone.

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I love sure microphones in
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And I hate the Yeti.
It is so challenging.

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It's just so challenging to work
with.

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And I'm curious, you know what,
I'm going to go to Matt real

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quick because Matt, maybe you as
one of our more techie people on

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stage, you may have some
thoughts.

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You know, the Blue Yeti is often
criticized by podcasters,

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especially the more experienced
ones.

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And I always think it's really
more about what kind of mic it

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is, not the brand.
In other words, I know that it

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is not a dynamic mic, it's a
condenser mic.

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And the condenser mics do tend
to pick up a lot more room noise

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and make it a lot more
challenging if you're not in a

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perfect room environment.
So Matt, my question to you, is

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it really, is it the Yeti that's
really the problem or is it that

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the Yeti is a condenser mic?
A Yeti is a category of a mic

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all of its own.
Part of the reason for this is

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that it's a design that hasn't
changed over time.

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The difference between dynamic
and condenser microphones isn't

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as significant as we'd give it
credibility based on the

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experience of the Yeti, but I
think the thing that captures

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this perfectly is a comparison
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Tom Buck did I think a couple of
years ago now where he had an

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older Blue Yeti, bought a newer
1 which is probably 8 years

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difference between the two, and
compared the internal

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construction of it.
Now the Yeti design is multi

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something, can't remember the
name, but it does cardioid, it

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does omnidirectional, it does
front and back, which I don't

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think many mics do.
But there is so many internal

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stuff that make it a great
marketing product that they can

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sell very easily.
And then people buy the mic

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doesn't do exactly what it needs
to do for them or makes them not

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sound good.
And then it's a bad experience

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after they've bought it that I
think they just don't invest in

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making a quality microphone at
the end of the day.

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Now the rationalization that you
asked in your question mark, is

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it just dynamics and condensers
or is the Yeti just crap?

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It's the Yeti being crap because
the environment, there is an

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environment in which Yeti.
The Yeti mic works well, and I

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do, I want to do this a lot.
Like I've got a Yeti beside me,

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but I don't.
I think the Yeti gets a bad

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reputation because the marketing
is so strong and the SEO is so

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strong on it.
So what I'd recommend for anyone

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who has a Yeti or is staring at
that Yeti microphone right now

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and going, oh man, Matt's
telling me I've got a crap

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microphone.
You don't.

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But if you want to get the most
out of it, treat your

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environment, optimize your
position, choose a cardioid

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position, make sure that the
gain is all the way down, and

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then take it for another spin.
And then work on your post

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production.
Because the opinion that I still

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have today, I will fight anybody
on this is that a Blue Yeti is

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not a good microphone for
podcasts, but it makes great

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podcasters.
Because it's like getting given

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a beat up Volkswagen Beetle that
doesn't work, having to spend 6

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months making it, you know,
drive good and then you jump in

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a Volkswagen Golf and it's the
most amazing thing you've ever

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driven.
And that's why B CS jump from

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the Blue Yeti to the Shaw MV7
would have been amazing.

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Even though I don't have a
positive opinion about Shaw

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microphones.
But I will yield the rest of my

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time lest I continue about
microphones for too long.

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And let me know if you want more
about my opinion.

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Cool.
Yeah.

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I mean, I do want to keep going,
but you do have my attention

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that you don't love the Shores
because I think the Shores are

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just such well built, great
sounding microphones.

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But everybody, to each their
own.

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And maybe that's another
conversation because I do want

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to hear from a few more people.
But thank you, Matt.

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I think that was a awesome
breakdown of that microphone and

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what makes it the way it is.
I'll put it that way.

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All right, let's go to DRDRI.
Think you wanted to answer the

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question what's one piece of
podcasting gear or software, AI

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excluded, that you can't live
without?

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Well, this is kind of AI
adjacent because the editing

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software that I use is called
Resound FM and it uses basically

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AI to catch all those gaps and
umms and AWS and stuff.

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And I also like Adobe Enhance
Voice, enhance the paid version.

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It's very important to separate
the paid version from the free

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version because the free version
is really crap.

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But the paid version you have
some control over, you know, the

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gauges and stuff.
So those are my 2.

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OK.
Thank you, Dr. Thank you for the

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short concise answer.
Much appreciated.

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And by the way, I'm going to
adjust the question slightly.

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AI, when I say IAI excluded, I'm
going to be specific and say no

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LLM models, no Chat GPTS, no
claws, none of that stuff,

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right?
And I say that because, John,

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you put something in the chat
that is, if I'm not mistaken,

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somewhat AI built.
But I wanted you to share one of

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the tools that you shared here
in the chat.

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Would you be open to doing that?
Sure, the one of the tools that

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I love is I love a phonic.
A phonic does a great job of

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fixing blue Yeti microphone
issue.

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Yeah.
I say that Blue Yetis, it's a

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great mic if you know how to use
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The problem is most people don't
know how to use it right.

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They put it in the middle of the
table and it sounds like they're

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in the hallway or in the
bathroom talking, right.

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So it's not really the
microphone, it's just that no

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one knows how to use it.
But a Phonic does fix a lot of

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issues.
I like it a little bit better

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than Adobe Enhanced because to
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over compresses it a little bit.
So that's one of the things that

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I use.
Yeah, me too.

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And phonics been around for
years and still I don't feel

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like enough people know about
it.

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And it's interesting to me.
I tend to get curious about the

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real, I call them audio files,
the people who real like John,

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who's an audio guy, he's an
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an editor.
And I always wondered how that

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group of people feel about these
kinds of tools like Offonic.

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And it's cool to hear that
somebody like John is embracing

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it because I know that there are
some out there that really, you

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know, they just want to go in
and manipulate every little

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piece of the audio themselves to
enhance it.

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They feel like that's the best
way to go.

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But I agree with John that
Offonic really does a great job

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of that.
And it provides you with lots of

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different, the ability to do
lots of different tweaks to the

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audio.
It's not just get here's my

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audio now make it sound better.
You can actually go in there and

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make certain adjustments.
So yeah, I'm with you, John.

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I'm a big fan.
Been using it for a long, long

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time.
Thank you for sharing that.

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Would anyone else like to answer
the icebreaker before we dig

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into some headlines?
Yes, Matt, go for it.

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My original answer was going to
be before Yeti nonsense was that

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my bit of tech that I don't
think I could do without is the

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mic I'm currently using which is
the Electro voice RE320.

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The just talking about Orphonic
having a great post production

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plug in tool to fix any
microphone is excellent.

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But the thing I love about this
microphone after doing a Blue

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Yeti Shore MV7, there's another
microphone in there too, but

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I've forgotten the name of it.
This is my end game mic because

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I've had people compliment the
sound of the voice that comes

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out of this thing with my voice
and it requires very little

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effort to make it sound good.
And I think for every voice

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there is an ideal microphone, it
just takes a long time to find

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it.
I think I've found it so the

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Electra voice RE320.
Awesome.

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Thank you, Matt.
Another vote for a microphone.

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I think my vote for me if at
least in this very moment

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because I'm sure it changes by
the day as far as equipment or

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tech that I can't live without
in the realm of podcasting, I

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would say maybe it's my Rd.
caster Pro too.

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I use it for everything.
I'm not even just using it for

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podcasting.
I mean, I use it for my Zoom

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calls when I have meetings with
clients.

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It's yeah, because I use a Mac
mini.

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My Mac mini doesn't have a built
in mic as far as I know.

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It does have audio out, but not
very good audio.

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So I just tend to stay plugged
right into my Rd.

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Caster Pro doing most of the
work, most of the listening,

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etcetera all through that and I
just love it.

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I love the sound pads.
As you know, I love pressing

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buttons even though I often
press the wrong ones, but I

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still love it.
It makes me feel like I'm

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sitting in a radio studio doing
the radio thing, but a little

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less complicated.
Those radio boards are quite

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complex and gigantic, and it can
be intimidating if you don't

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know what you're doing with
those.

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But yeah, so that would be mine,
the Road Caster Pro 2.

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And yeah, if it left, if I had
to, if it got went away for

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whatever reason, then I'd
probably go lean on my Zoom P4

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next the new model.
But I don't love it nearly as

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much as I love the Road Caster
Pro 2.

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I know that Cliff Ravenscraft
sings its praises, but it is not

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perfect in my opinion.
The biggest thing I don't like

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about the P4 is the fact that
you can't control the volume on

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the sound pads that it has.
So it's really just you can

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actually, but it's you have to
press a lot of buttons and dig

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into the settings and adjust it
from there.

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It's not an on the fly slider
thing that you can just adjust

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as you go.
And for that, not a big fan.

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All right, anyone else want to
share before I hit the news

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Music?
If I could, I would just say

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that the the P4 next, it has
applications.

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If you're going to take it on
the road, it's great for

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interviews, it's good for that
kind of thing, But you know, the

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road caster, either the duo or
the two, It just seems to me

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it's just a hardier and it
doesn't break or it does.

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You don't usually have issues
with it.

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And that's what I love about it
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So I think they both can be
good, but you know, and also the

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cost, you know, the, the P4 is
like, what's it almost, it's

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like 175 hours and the other one
is 500 to, you know, 700 hours.

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So that's a big, if you're
trying to get into something, I

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think that the P4 is good for a
beginner and then you can

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graduate.
Totally agree with you, John.

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Yeah, thank you for chiming in
with that.

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Yeah, I agree.
A great for a beginner, great

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for on the go, yeah.
But I think if you want

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something more permanent and if
you're more experienced, if you

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know you're in this for the long
haul, then that upgrade to the

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Road Caster Pro 2 or the duo, I
think makes a lot of sense.

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Thank you for sharing that,
John.

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And we're going to go from John
to Jonathan.

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Jonathan, I know you wanted to
share.

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Go for it.
Yeah, I'm just, and I'll be

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really quick.
I'm just going to say for a solo

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podcaster who does all the
editing, everything, Riverside

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is my my best friend because I
can do it all there.

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It's very simple.
I can conduct interviews there.

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It's I love working with
Riverside because it makes it

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easy for a solo podcaster.
I'm with you, Jonathan.

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I agree.
I think it is great for somebody

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who's doing it all themselves
who isn't experienced in this

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industry, especially meaning on
the technical side.

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I think that Riverside's a great
entry point that allows you to

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do a lot of things with it,
especially with the editing tool

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that it has.
There are a lot of different

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things.
You can add transitions and B

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roll and do all the things and
it makes it relatively easy for

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somebody just starting out.
The one thing I will say is I

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actually agree with Dave
Jackson, who's just posted

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something recently, I think
yesterday about Riverside, which

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is overall great tool.
He didn't recommend it, nor do

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I, just for one major thing and
that is for hosting if you want

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it to.
If you wanted to use it to

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distribute your podcast to all
the platforms, it's not going to

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distribute currently to all the
platforms.

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It's only going to go to Apple,
Spotify and YouTube.

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And I think that if you're going
to go to a hosting provider, you

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want one that's going to get it
to all the different channels.

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And also their statistics, their
analytics are a little a little

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weak.
They don't have many yet.

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And these are all things they
know and that they have shared

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that they will be working
toward.

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And I respect that they're not
doing everything at once.

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But for that particular spot, I
would say if that's what you're

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looking for specifically,
Riverside may not be the one.

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Go ahead, John.
My question is that I would love

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to try Riverside but I've seen
so many people have issues with

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it and I would love it to use it
for live streaming.

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But then again I hear there's a
lot of issues with it and it

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terrifies me.
Like I said, I've been using

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Stream Yard for years now and
it's all it's reliable.

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I would love to be able to use
Riverside.

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I have a couple clients that use
it and I go in there and edit

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their videos and the audio and
it's great for that but they

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have problems where it locks up
and I don't know.

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So you use it, so you have
problems.

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I don't, but I'll tell you what,
I did have problems a couple

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years ago when I was, and it was
when I was using an older

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machine, an older computer, when
I upgraded a little over a year

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ago to the Mac mini and I got,
you know, the, it's pretty much

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the latest model.
I souped it up a little bit more

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than the basic model so that it
had a lot of power, would last

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me longer through the next
several years.

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And I think that's a big thing.
I think that's where people have

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a hard time.
It's just a guess, but I think

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what those people that complain
that it may be this, it locks up

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or sometimes I've heard some
people talk about audio drifting

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as an issue with Riverside.
I believe that has a lot to do

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with the computer not being able
to handle the software.

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So if you have a good computer I
think you will you will have a

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good experience with Riverside.
If you have an older computer

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that probably needs to be
updated it you may not have a

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great experience with Riverside.
That's just my personal

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experience I saw at BC.
Did you want to chime in?

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Yeah, I was going to say too,
I've used OTS and in Streamlabs

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myself before and have switched
to Riverside for live streaming

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when I do it.
And as much as you know, even

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being on the show here and
seeing what we go through

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sometimes has me worried every
now and then.

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At the same time, you really
just can't beat out how

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comparatively, Riverside still
takes each input as its own

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separate thing, whereas with
Streamlabs, it's all one

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recording.
You can't post facto divvy out a

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certain input channel and kind
of recalibrate or reoriented.

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And so with Riverside's ability
to do that, it's like I can see

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the concerns with every now and
then something hiccups.

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My only ever beef with Riverside
is just when, for whatever

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reason, it takes longer than it
should for something to process.

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That's the only hiccup I really
ever deal with.

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Beyond that, though, you really
just can't beat the ability of

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Riverside to really Orient
things properly and give you a

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really good final product.
Yep, thank you BC and I really

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think that the the Riverside
problems with live streaming

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that we've personally
experienced, I think that's had

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a lot to do with my Internet
connection.

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And I think if anybody's noticed
this week, it's been knock on

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woods very smooth sailing.
I think.

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So that's another thing is your
Internet connection having a

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wired connection versus Wi-Fi, I
think that's advice anybody

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would give for any type of live
streaming that you're doing, is

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plug in as opposed to depending
on that Wi-Fi.

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And I've depended on it for a
long time and it worked great,

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but then it didn't.
So now I'm just eliminating that

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problem by plugging in.
So yeah, I think if your

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computer is good, your
Internet's good, I think

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Riverside is a great choice.
So that's, yeah, John, we could

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always talk, if you want, about
your computer setup and all

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that, if we can see if it's a
good match.

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But I would also recommend just
to do a free trial and see what

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you think.
Yeah, Well, I have a Mac mini.

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I've pretty much had the same
setup as you do, as you're

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talking about it.
I have the Mac mini and I would

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love the producer mode because I
have a producer that puts sound

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drops in as we do.
So I would love that.

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Also.
Like I said, it has so many

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bells and whistles, but I used
to say if you can't get a good

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recording, all those bells and
whistles, really it's an issue.

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But again, if you know, I will
give it a try.

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I definitely will give it a try.
Awesome, well let me know if you

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need anything and let me know
what you think once you do start

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giving it a whirl.
Tim, did you want to chime in

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before I move into the news?
Yeah, I I did want to chime in.

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I don't use Riverside.
I've looked at it and but I use

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the script squad cast for my
remote interviews and I know the

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script has their rooms that
they're going to be phasing out

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Squad cast from what I
understand.

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And the thing I hate about rooms
is you cannot set that up in

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advance.
It is only, you know, you, you

444
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,040
set up the room and then you
share the link.

445
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,480
But I'm hoping that the script
Captivate don't go the route

446
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,360
that Riverside does because I
think Riverside, I like the

447
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:54,600
concept, but they're trying to
do everything and we already see

448
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,440
the limitations that you can
only get your stuff on Apple

449
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,760
podcast, Spotify and YouTube.
So that was just my $0.02.

450
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,440
Yeah.
Thank you, Tim.

451
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360
Great points.
There's a lot of factors to

452
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:10,920
consider, but I do suggest that
if you're curious about it, I'm

453
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,960
a big fan of Riverside.
I endorse Riverside and I would

454
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,440
encourage you to give it a try,
see what you think.

455
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,200
But yeah, these are all
important factors to consider.

456
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,360
All right, yes, I'm pausing
because I'm trying to think

457
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:27,160
where to go next.
I think we will just dig in to

458
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,040
the news and I'm going to start
with BC because we were trying

459
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,720
to get to his segment first BCS
trying to on our Wednesday

460
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Newsdays, trying to bring the
latest in tech news.

461
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,720
So I figured this is a perfect
place to start with BC.

462
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,880
I know you've got two stories,
one about Adobe Premiere Pro and

463
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,640
I think one about Rd.
Speaking of Rd.

464
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Casters, so go for it.
Correct.

465
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,720
So we'll start off with Adobe
this morning.

466
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,480
And so Adobe just partnered up
with Speech Maddox, a new to

467
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,720
launch a new on device speech to
text system inside of Adobe

468
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,480
Premiere.
So what's actually new, What

469
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,960
this brings to the table is that
transcription will now happen

470
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,080
locally on your device when
using Premiere, not go to the

471
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,320
cloud and transcribe there.
So this means it'll finally make

472
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,080
sure everything stays on your
computer.

473
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,560
It's not sending any anything
out to external servers.

474
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,800
It stays right where you are
when you're recording.

475
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,280
The great news here is that even
though it's not going to the

476
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080
cloud, you can expect cloud
level performance.

477
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,760
One hour of audio should be
processed in about 55 seconds,

478
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,440
which is great.
The core selling point here is

479
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,600
again privacy and data control.
So this is great for anyone who

480
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,000
by chance has pre released media
or has corporate content, which

481
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,960
means it's great for journalists
and enterprise creators.

482
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,080
You also have great real world
speech systems built in for

483
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,400
accents, non-native speakers and
for noisy environments.

484
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,080
So this is a pretty cool
addition to Adobe Premiere,

485
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,480
which is my typical go to video
production platform when I'm not

486
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,960
using Riverside.
I am one of those who loves to

487
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,560
have my hands on all the things
in a nice work session to see

488
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,200
what I'm doing to create a
masterpiece, so this is

489
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,640
definitely a cool new thing for
me to use whenever I'm hopping

490
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,400
back into the Adobe train.
Awesome.

491
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,520
OK, so Adobe Premiere Pro, yes,
yeah, check that out if you're

492
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,200
in a Adobe Premiere Pro user.
What is our next story about Rd.

493
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,280
BC?
So ROAD made a number of

494
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,400
announcements at NAB Show this
year, which is just one of the

495
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,720
many reasons I am really turked
and tipped off that I could not

496
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,040
make it to NAB Show.
And I'm gonna say this right

497
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,240
now.
If you have even the slightest,

498
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,000
especially as a podcaster, the
slightest interest in media

499
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,480
slash media tech and you have
not gone to NAB Show, which

500
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,880
always happens in Las Vegas, you
are missing out.

501
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Your preferences or thoughts of
Sin City aside, this is a go to

502
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,920
week long event.
You just you got to go.

503
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,320
I'm dying to go to I've.
Never been.

504
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320
I'm always envious when I start
seeing video and pictures from

505
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,040
the event.
Man maybe I'll go with you BC

506
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840
the next to the next one and I
was telling Mark in the chat.

507
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Yesterday I went one time in
2015.

508
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,600
I've been to a numerous week
long event since then to this

509
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,080
day and maybe show is the top
I've ever experienced anyway, so

510
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,640
it's a row the announcement.
So Sonora, a tiny microphone

511
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,800
technology component will be
part of the upcoming new

512
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040
microphones from Rd.
We also have new products

513
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,520
announced, including ones that
are aimed specifically at video

514
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,200
podcasting.
We got the road link to a new

515
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,680
wireless microphone system, the
LPA 1A new low profile

516
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,960
microphone arm for precision
placement without visual

517
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:55,160
obstruction, the DS3A desktop
studio arm and a pod mic flag, a

518
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,200
bespoke flag for the pod mic to
put your podcast logo on the

519
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000
actual microphone.
We also have Roadcaster studio.

520
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,720
We'll be adding an edit like
Word document editor to the

521
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,760
system with automatic filler
word replacements and AI

522
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,320
editing.
And of course, Rode Capture, a

523
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,240
mobile phone recording app will
finally be made available for

524
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,960
Android users.
So hey, for me and VR and Nick

525
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,840
and Nick.
Yes.

526
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,080
So that is the bundle of what
Rode was able to let any of you

527
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,920
show know about this year in
Vegas, where again, I was not.

528
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,400
So, you know, whatever.
Yeah.

529
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,280
And I guess really.
The interesting part of that

530
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,040
story is that Rode being more of
an audio company for so long

531
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,560
like that, they've always
produced audio equipment.

532
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Now really doubling down on the
video side of things.

533
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,640
Although that micro sized
microphone that they were that

534
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,920
you mentioned at the top, that
sounds pretty cool, very

535
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,960
interesting.
And actually, you know, we had a

536
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,120
mailbag question for today too.
It it reminded me to go to it

537
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,560
because you were talking about
their new low profile arms for

538
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,640
the microphones and Meredith
Hack with Edwards of the curious

539
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,520
introvert podcast.
She's she's a member of this

540
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,960
community, just doesn't doesn't
make it here live in the

541
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,040
mornings, but she talks to me
all the time saying that she

542
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,600
listens to the show.
She gives me feedback about the

543
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,360
show and we've kind of deemed
each other virtual Co workers.

544
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,600
We often bounce ideas and
thoughts and client

545
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080
troubleshooting etcetera from
each other.

546
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,520
So I appreciate her reaching out
and participating in today's

547
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
show.
She said I'd love to know what

548
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,160
boom arm and mic stand people
are loving right now.

549
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,200
I record at a chest height table
and I'm looking for something

550
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,120
adjustable that looks good on
camera.

551
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,680
And I would first say whatever
you do, it's actually I believe

552
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,120
my personal thing here that I
like to do when it comes to arms

553
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,640
and stands.
I think a good looking stand or

554
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,640
arm is one that you don't see or
don't see much of, right?

555
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,360
So looking good on camera would
mean it's actually not seen on

556
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,240
camera.
Yes.

557
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720
And I see those on video here
are demonstrating Vanna White

558
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,600
style their microphones and how
it's not seen.

559
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,880
Mine is a little bit seen here
at the bottom part of it, but

560
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120
I'm OK with how it shows up on
camera.

561
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280
And I think that would be my
biggest advice.

562
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,600
If you're not going, which I
know some people are adamant

563
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,560
about not using lav mics for
their podcast, I won't go there

564
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,440
even though I feel a little
differently about it.

565
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,840
But I would say just go with
something that's low profile.

566
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,320
I'm using the Elgato low profile
arm and I love it because it

567
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,320
feels really sturdy.
It has sections where you can

568
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,680
hide the wires so you don't see
the wire all over the place,

569
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,240
which I think is really nice
looking.

570
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,200
Again, if it does appear on
camera, that's a nice touch is

571
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,120
that you don't see all the wires
everywhere and it feels really

572
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,400
sturdy.
It just feels like a strong,

573
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,920
durable arm and it holds up my
heavy sure SM 7B.

574
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,440
So that would be my personal
recommendation.

575
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,840
Janae is on stage.
Janae, did you want to comment

576
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,400
on this?
And I know you know Meredith as

577
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480
well, I believe.
Hey, good morning, everyone.

578
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,000
I.
Guess that's an excellent

579
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080
question and there are many
different ways and you have to

580
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,560
really think about what your
final product's going to be.

581
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,320
For example, we've seen Ralph go
through three different stages

582
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,880
from having that microphone in
front of him than going to the

583
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,840
microphone that's above him that
you can't see it all.

584
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,200
Kind of like a Netflix style TV,
you know, capture versus now

585
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,840
he's got this beautiful looking
microphone.

586
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,640
Again, it all comes down to the
user and what they want out of

587
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,000
their their show and the look
and feel.

588
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,240
So there's many different ones.
The DS1 by Rd. is a really great

589
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,600
arm.
It's not a low profile and you

590
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,440
can get a low profile armed by
Elgato.

591
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,800
So again, I'm gonna say it
depends.

592
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Yeah, I agree and.
Yes, Road Now has launched some

593
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,080
low profile arms as well, so
maybe that would be of interest

594
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,800
to Meredith.
And I see here that Dave in the

595
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,639
chat, he was just saying he uses
as standard when I'm trying to

596
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,880
find exactly what he wrote here.
Yeah, I use a standard vocal mic

597
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,120
stand that a singer would use on
stage.

598
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,600
Yeah, I for many years of
podcasting, that's what I used,

599
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,120
is one of those more traditional
floor stands that you would see

600
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239
a singer using.
I think that it had a bit of an

601
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,040
adjustable part to it so I could
move the mic around to get it

602
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,960
just in the right place.
But yeah, that's commonly used

603
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,760
as well.
Appreciate that, Dave.

604
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,320
Dr. Did you want to chime in on
something I did because you?

605
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,679
Said you don't like the way that
it looks so number one, I don't

606
00:34:53,679 --> 00:35:00,440
mind the showing of it when I do
all my virtual networking.

607
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,880
They know right away, oh, are
you a podcaster?

608
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,240
I see your microphone, you know,
so I like that identifiable

609
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,080
thing.
And also after a while,

610
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,280
especially when it comes to
podcasting and you're seeing

611
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:23,360
those side by Yeah, that's fair.
I.

612
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,120
Think that's true.
I also feel like, you know, and

613
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,000
this is a whole conversation we
can have another time, but I'm

614
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,280
also feeling like these podcast
clips on social media are

615
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,400
starting to kind of wear out for
audiences.

616
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,400
I think that people are getting
tired of seeing podcast clips.

617
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120
I hate saying that because it's
a lot of the content I put out,

618
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,800
right?
And I'm not necessarily

619
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,960
stopping, but I do think I need
to put out more variety than

620
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,000
what I'm putting out now because
I, I was going to ask you like

621
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,080
what?
I was going to ask you like what

622
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,320
else would you put out?
Honestly, what's working these?

623
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,240
Days on social media right now
are more just talking head

624
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:02,720
videos, videos where it's just
like I'm doing right now,

625
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,240
literally just talking right to
the camera.

626
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:08,040
I'm not making big edits.
I'm not putting up a lot of

627
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,520
production elements in it.
It's just me talking to you on

628
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,480
camera.
That is what seems to be working

629
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,600
really well these days.
I'm not saying that produced

630
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,480
content doesn't work, but I'm
just saying that I think people

631
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,760
have gotten numb to that now
because again, it's a trend like

632
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,520
everybody sees, oh, this is
working.

633
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,840
Heavy produced content is what's
working right now.

634
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,400
I got to do the same thing and
then we get flooded with it and

635
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,800
then people subconsciously, cuz
you're right DRI don't think

636
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,040
they're noticing necessarily the
arm.

637
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,920
They're not making that
conscious connection, but they

638
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,360
know subconsciously up.
Here's another podcast clip.

639
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,760
Flip and go on to the next
thing.

640
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,120
That's my opinion.
But I do know that I from my own

641
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,200
personal research and what I'm
seeing others saying about their

642
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,760
research, the talking head stuff
is what's working really well

643
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,680
right now.
And I think if your mic arm is

644
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,640
showing in a talking head style,
I think it might work.

645
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,840
But again, it just may trigger
subconsciously in people's

646
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,320
minds.
Oh, is this another podcast

647
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,400
video?
I'm going to flip it.

648
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,280
Janae, did you want to comment
on that?

649
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,480
Absolutely love that.
Topic.

650
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,720
Because a lot of people what
where we're heading right now

651
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:28,320
with social media and clips is
it's no longer the follower

652
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,160
count.
And this is something Gary Vee

653
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,000
has been hammering down for the
past six months.

654
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,720
It's all interest based, right?
So he's saying forget about the

655
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:40,360
clips.
Now I put on the full stuff on

656
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,200
social media because when you're
looking at a clip, I didn't get

657
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,840
the full gist of what you were
talking about.

658
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,080
So what I've noticed, at least
for with my experience is I'm

659
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,920
watching anywhere from three
minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minute

660
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,360
long reels, vertical videos,
that person without talking

661
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,680
directly to me or they've been
having a conversation with

662
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080
somebody else.
But I'm interested in that

663
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,400
content that they're sharing
about.

664
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,120
And that's what's really
working.

665
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,080
So that's what you want to look
at when creating these content

666
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,600
because you're now not talking
to somebody else anymore.

667
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,120
You're talking to me who's
watching your video.

668
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,240
So you've got to now modify the
content to talking to the one

669
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,280
person that's in your audience.
And I think it also goes with

670
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,520
podcasting is because with
podcasting, we're talking, we're

671
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,600
not talking to 10 people.
We're talking to one person

672
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,520
who's our target audience, and
they're going to stay longer to

673
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,840
stick around and with the
conversation that you're having

674
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,440
with them.
Yeah.

675
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,360
Thank you, Janae.
And I want to just forsake of

676
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,920
time when it keep going.
I want to go to Matt, especially

677
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000
because A he's been waiting
patiently.

678
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,880
B Matt, what you just put in the
chat about Gary Vee?

679
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,120
I couldn't agree with you more
and I would love for you to dig

680
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,320
into that.
My natural sceptical.

681
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Mind always leans into someone
who is entertaining a large

682
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,080
audience, has crossed all of the
barriers that you expect, a

683
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,600
whole Mosey you might say, and
is very keen and very outspoken

684
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,160
and telling people what works
before there's any kind of

685
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:16,840
evidentiary material that shows
that what they're saying works.

686
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,520
Now, I don't investigate Gary
all that much, but there are

687
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,440
people who are very influential
in the space that will make a

688
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,440
recommendation and those people
tend to guide the market a

689
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,600
little bit.
I mean, any reflection on

690
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,160
Hormozi in the same way will
tell you that he's saying he's

691
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,040
giving you a lot of business
advice, which is great.

692
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,320
He did the hustle and grind for
five to six years, but now

693
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,000
what's his nine to five telling
people how to run their

694
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,320
businesses and that's his
business.

695
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,760
So you kind of have to, there's
like a 10 or 20 or 30%, however

696
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,400
much weight you give it to any
kind of advice that these people

697
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680
put forward.
Now, what Junaid talked about,

698
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,200
if you took Gary out of that as
a reference, all of it would

699
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,640
still apply because he's super
tapped into the space.

700
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,520
He sees what works.
Same with Jonathan.

701
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
He'd probably have a very
similar opinion The the space is

702
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,680
moving, but people like Gary, I
think just a couple of grains of

703
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,480
salt, not a whole salt shaker,
but just a couple of grains.

704
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,000
Yeah, I often.
Think those things, when I see

705
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,720
those, I'll call them
influencers, even though I think

706
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Gary Vee is more than just an
influencer.

707
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,240
But I whenever I see him telling
all of us what to do, you know

708
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,760
this isn't working anymore.
You got to do this and you got

709
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,400
to do that, and people just
jump.

710
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,840
It's like, OK, I know that's the
old cliche saying, but it's like

711
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,000
he says jump and everyone says
how high.

712
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,880
And I'm not saying he's wrong
all the time, right?

713
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,320
I think he has some valid points
and I think he's a brilliant

714
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,120
guy.
Please don't get me wrong.

715
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,760
And it's a little scary to think
at how quickly people just jump

716
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,840
at what he says and it instantly
becomes a trend.

717
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,840
I don't know how.
I don't know how.

718
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,800
That's how well that's serving
our community.

719
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,280
I really don't.
The primary thing is.

720
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,800
He was pretty outspoken about AI
robots being a major component

721
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,840
of anything we do going forward.
And you see big companies like

722
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,320
Salesforce sacking 3 to 600
people in their team because

723
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,560
they want to replace them with
AI and then hiring them back.

724
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,640
That's it's just, it's the soft.
Sorry, Janae, I talked over you

725
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,040
there.
No problem.

726
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,720
So what?
I was going to say is Gary

727
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,840
doesn't say do what I don't do
what I'm telling you do what I

728
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,280
do, right, Because that's what
he's tested.

729
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,640
That's what he's that's what's
worked for him.

730
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,360
He doesn't give you any advice
that he has and himself tried.

731
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,760
Well, yes, he will.
He will jump on a brand new

732
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,080
platform and go all in because
he wants to test that.

733
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,600
And so this last video that I
watched, he was talking about

734
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,520
Facebook.
He's giving advice to this group

735
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,360
and they're like, you know, our
page got demoted and pulled

736
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,680
down.
We had 100,200 thousand

737
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,920
followers and we're not posting
anymore.

738
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,680
He's like, you know what, that's
good.

739
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960
Now you have a chance to start
over again.

740
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,120
And when they're asking, should
we post short?

741
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,040
Should we post long form?
Should we report?

742
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,320
And he's all he's saying is yes,
yes.

743
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,440
Because the idea is the more you
post of the content that your

744
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,120
audience wants, the more you're
going to be put forth in front

745
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,120
of more audience.
Like if you're not posting any

746
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,480
content, there's no chance of
people discovering you.

747
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,720
But when you are posting
content, then there are more

748
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:28,080
chances.
So that's the the underlying

749
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,520
lesson that I'm getting out of
it.

750
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,040
Yeah.
I mean basically what you're

751
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,600
saying.
Is that another old cliche line

752
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080
is you can't win the lottery if
you don't play, right?

753
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,440
So yeah, of course you got to
post content if you want to try

754
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,400
to get more exposure.
Absolutely.

755
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,520
And yeah, I hear you that it's
not necessarily Gary Vee is not

756
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,080
necessarily going on and saying,
OK, this is the trend, go do

757
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,680
that.
But he at the same time, I'm

758
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,160
pretty sure I've seen him do
posts like that.

759
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,160
Like I've seen him jump on the
idea where he was pushing for a

760
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,200
while, the idea of these
carousel style posts on

761
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,320
Instagram that starts with a
still image you slide and

762
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,560
there's a video like that was a
big thing he was pushing a lot

763
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,120
of.
And yes, I agree with you that

764
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,640
he only pushes things that he
tests and are successful.

765
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
But I also feel like, are we
really comparing apples to

766
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,400
apples here with Gary Vee with
millions of followers?

767
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,120
It's going to those people are
going to potentially act a lot

768
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,800
differently, respond a lot
differently to his content than

769
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,360
they then my 3000.
Some followers on Instagram

770
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,560
might like.
I just think it's a bigger

771
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,560
sampling, a bigger pool that
he's working with and not

772
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,400
necessarily the same pool as
mine.

773
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Ralph, go ahead.
Yeah, I just want to key in.

774
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,200
On a word you use there that I
think we need to dig into for a

775
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,920
second.
Followers, That's the issue.

776
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,960
So many people follow what
everybody else is doing.

777
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Be a trendsetter.
Try something different

778
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,160
yourself.
You don't have to follow along

779
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,600
with what everybody else is
doing.

780
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,840
I get so frustrated when I see,
well, let's try this because

781
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,760
everybody's doing it.
Well, let's do this because

782
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,800
everybody's doing it.
Guess what?

783
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560
At one point, somebody tried
something new and then everybody

784
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,200
followed them.
So use your creativity.

785
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,240
Here's a great place where you
can actually use some creativity

786
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,000
and try something new.
And if it doesn't work, it

787
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,600
doesn't work.
But to follow everybody else,

788
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,640
all you're doing is just
following the leader.

789
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,520
And I just, I hate that.
I'm with you, Ralph.

790
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,800
I'm totally with you there.
Thank you for saying it.

791
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,800
And I think there were some
other people that want to chime

792
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,400
in as well.
Matt, did you want to chime in

793
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,960
more on this?
No, but I had an original.

794
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,360
Point that I wanted to say and I
kind of got sidestepped by Gary

795
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Vee.
The thing about microphones on

796
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,600
screen, including stands and
stuff like that.

797
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,280
Yeah, there was something very
apartment that I saw someone

798
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,400
post on LinkedIn that the what
is present on the video dictates

799
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,360
to the audience what they can
expect to be listening to.

800
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,320
And some of you kind of alluded
to that a little bit like Dr.

801
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,720
saying like that must be a
podcast if you're seeing a

802
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:53,200
podcast microphone in that
setup.

803
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,800
But news broadcasts, social
media clips, you know, the

804
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,560
holding of a really bad small
lanyard microphone or clipping

805
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,400
it to a card or something and
holding it up to your face like

806
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,840
a news reader.
All of these things

807
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,680
subconsciously dictate what the
content could be expected to be.

808
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,920
And thinking about what you want
to look like to your audience is

809
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,600
fine, but you know, it's all
about that subconscious

810
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,320
behavioural aspect as well.
I don't know if that short

811
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,160
circuits how the conversation
was flowing before, but that's

812
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,000
what.
No, I'm glad that you.

813
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,960
I'm glad you got your point and
thank you for sharing that.

814
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,960
And I'll go to Ralph and then
I'll bite my tongue.

815
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,240
I'll share in a minute.
Go ahead, Ralph.

816
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Yeah, and I want to address.
This because Janae said

817
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,440
something.
It is very true.

818
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,640
I went from the shore SM 7B in
the full shot and I didn't like

819
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,080
that because I was doing video
first.

820
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,480
I went to the shotgun mic and I
like the shotgun mic because you

821
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,280
couldn't see it in the shot, but
I didn't like the sound of it.

822
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,840
So I went with this third mic
because I wanted the sound to be

823
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,280
excellent because I do both
audio and video.

824
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,600
And so this was a tough decision
because I really like not having

825
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,800
the mic in the shot.
I thought it was cooler, but I

826
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,480
had to go back to say what is
best for the sound.

827
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,360
And that's when I had to make
that decision because I've tried

828
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,600
the lapel mics, I've got a bunch
of gear sitting over here next

829
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,840
to me.
I've tried everything, but the

830
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,640
sound is what it came down to.
And going along with what Matt

831
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,200
said, yeah, I think there's a
subliminal piece to it as well.

832
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Professionalism.
And if they see a professional

833
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,200
microphone, they hear a
professional microphone.

834
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,920
I think that speaks volumes
about your professionalism.

835
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,800
Yeah.
Thank you, Ralph.

836
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Appreciate that.
Dr. Did you want to chime in

837
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,000
before I share what I wanted to
share Legacy hand, sorry.

838
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,600
Oh, no problem.
So.

839
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,000
What I wanted to say is that we
we still have a ton of stories

840
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,080
and we didn't get to nearly half
of them.

841
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,400
So I want to 1st go to Ralph
because Ralph, I know you have a

842
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,280
road caster duo update as far as
our winner goes.

843
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,040
And then I have one last thing I
want to share with everybody

844
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,880
before I let you go.
Yeah.

845
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Thank you, Mark.
The fellow who won, Justin,

846
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,640
reached out to me yesterday.
He's super excited about

847
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,200
winning.
He's from Oregon, so I'm going

848
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,720
to traipse off to The UPS Store
here in the next few days and

849
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:14,440
get the roadcaster duo and the
SD card on the way to him.

850
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,520
So he had taken a day or two to
get back to us, but he said he

851
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,680
was super excited to win and
he's also going to be scheduling

852
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,200
that call with me.
So I'm looking forward to doing

853
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,520
both of those things.
Awesome, awesome.

854
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Congratulations to him and
congratulations to Austin who is

855
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,800
in the audience right now.
Austin our runner up of that

856
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,160
giveaway and he has won a free
one year subscription to True

857
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Fans.
Speaking of podcast hosting

858
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,640
platforms as we were at the top
of the show.

859
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,960
So you will get to enjoy that
and I have a call with Sam Sethi

860
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:51,280
and I know so does Ralph as far
as that service goes, learning

861
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,480
more, even more about it, you
never know, might switch over

862
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,200
there at some point.
We shall see.

863
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,680
I'm really liking what True Fans
has to offer.

864
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,840
So more to come on that and a
reminder that we are back

865
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,760
tomorrow.
No BC it is not related to only

866
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,520
fans.
I'm laughing also because we had

867
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,000
made that joke when Sam joined
us and maybe even previous

868
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,840
before that we even made that
joke that I often times think

869
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,760
only fans when I hear true fans
and I'm always scratching my

870
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,080
head.
Wait what podcast?

871
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,840
What?
But yeah no it is not.

872
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,360
No relation to follow it.
True fans.

873
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,600
No, not only fans.
It is true fans.

874
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,680
I always have to follow it that
way.

875
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Aren't the only fan subscribers.
The true friends, anyway.

876
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,280
Well, all right, that's a whole.
Other topic as well, and you may

877
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,760
be right actually, but we are
back tomorrow, everybody, 7:00

878
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,240
AM Eastern Time live on
Clubhouse, YouTube, all the

879
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,360
places.
You can learn more about that at

880
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,720
Podcasting Morning chat.com/join
us.

881
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,200
So until tomorrow where we'll
share our wins from the week and

882
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,600
we've got some community
discussions to have, we'll be

883
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,800
back then.
So until then, make it a great

884
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,360
day everybody, take care.