473. The Best & Worst Parts of Podcasting

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Friday, March 13th,
2026, and today we'll discuss

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the best and worst parts of
podcasting for you.

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Plus, we're decoding podcasting
buzzwords with the wheel of

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jargon, and we're wrapping up
with our community wins from

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this past week.
So if you're listening live on

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Clubhouse, hit the share button,
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screen and share it.
However, Clubhouse lets you.

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And if you're catching us via
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etcetera, please share this with
a fellow podcaster.

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And now give us about 30 seconds
and we'll get things rolling.

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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Morning Chat.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
I am your host Mark Ronik and

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currently on stage with me.
We've have producer Ashley

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Feller, Ralph Estep, DRFA, BC
Babbles, Sid Meadows, Nick

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Naulback and also Tide AKA Nikki
is on stage with us from the

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audience.
By the way, if you want to learn

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more about the cast and crew,
you can go go to

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podcastingmorningchat.com/people
and you'll learn about each and

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every one of the people who
contributes to this show on a

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regular basis.
And I'm grateful, grateful to

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each and every one of you who do
contribute.

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You help me keep this thing
afloat and if it wasn't for this

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team, I don't know if we'd be
doing this for four years plus

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now.
So thank you again to all of

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you.
By the way, programming note

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yesterday I teased we were going
to continue the mailbag today.

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And I guess technically this
could be considered a mailbag

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question, this topic of your
your best and worst parts of

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podcasting.
But it wasn't the mailbag that I

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intended to maybe go to today.
We will get to those questions,

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the ones I had teased.
We'll get to those next week.

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Also.
Speaking of next week, Monday is

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another obsession worthy podcast
episode.

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That's where we break down these
really popular podcasts to learn

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more about how and why they are
so successful.

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It's not an analysis.
It's not like what we do

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sometimes on Thursdays, breaking
down, providing an evaluation of

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a podcast.
This is more breaking it down to

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really understand what makes it
tick and why audiences find it

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so obsession worthy.
So the show we're going to be

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dump diving into is called
Search Engine and Nick pay

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attention because the episode
mysteries of Clawed.

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So what this episode is all
about anthropic hired

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philosophers to teach its AI to
be good in their tests.

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The AI blackmailed a human to
keep it alive.

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And I think some of us may
remember that story.

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I think we even talked about it
once on the show here, the

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writer, and I'm going to, well,
I think I should be able to

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pronounce his name.
Writer Gideon Lewis Kraus went

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inside the company to figure out
what's going on with Claude and

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whether anyone can actually
control it.

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So yes, we will learn more about
that story.

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I'm actually really interested
because like I said, I remember

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that story.
So I'm excited to listen this

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weekend and then break it all
down on Monday.

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You can check out that
particular show by going to

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podcastingmorningchat.com/search
Engine.

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That'll take you to a link that
you can pick and choose your

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platform to listen to that
episode.

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And if you want to learn more
about Obsession Worthy Podcasts,

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go to
podcastingmorningchat.com/OWP

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Obsession Worthy Podcasts.
And before we go any further, I

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do want to share some news with
everybody that may surprise some

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of you.
Today, unfortunately, is

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Ashley's last day as editor of
the podcasting Morning Chat, and

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it's not her last day as part of
the community.

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So I want to make that very
clear before I go any further.

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And it has nothing to do with
Ashley or the quality of her

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work.
She has been amazing.

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And I'm not just saying that.
I think if you go and listen to

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the past year and a half, two
years of content, you'll agree

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with me that she is amazing at
what she does.

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Especially if you're a live show
listener, you can hear what she

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does on a daily basis.
She's talented, she's been

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dependable, thoughtful, and
she's done a fantastic job with

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this show.
The truth is, this comes down to

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where PMC is right now as a
business.

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Until I'm monetizing it, I can't
keep carrying the cost of daily

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editing.
And honestly, that reality,

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along with some other factors,
has been a real wake up call for

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me.
It's made me realize I need to

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be more intentional about
building out this show into

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something that's sustainable.
So behind the scenes, I'm

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working on monetizing PMC and
leveling it up.

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Yes, I want it to become a real
revenue stream, but maybe the

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bigger reason is so that I can
pour more back into the show,

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make the experience even better,
and continue building this

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community in a strong way.
So I'll let Ashley share some of

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her plans moving forward, but I
just want to say how much I

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appreciate you, Ashley, and
everything that you've brought

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to PMC.
And the good news is, like I

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said a moment ago, she's still
part of this community.

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Let's not be mistaken there.
So it's not goodbye.

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It's just a change in role.
And I'll let Ashley continue.

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But Ashley, thank you for
everything.

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The floor is yours if you'd like
to share your plans moving

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forward.
Hey, good morning y'all and

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thank you Mark.
And I could not be more grateful

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for having done work on PMC for
almost 2 years.

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Working on the show every day
has really been fulfilling and

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I've learned a lot and I've just
been so grateful to know all

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y'all.
And like before, I'm I'm not

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gone, you know, this isn't
goodbye.

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It's just you won't see me as
much because out of necessity,

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I've always kept my temporary
teacher's certificate in Florida

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in case I needed to return to
that.

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And this is one of those
situations that I'm going to

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need to, at least for now, until
I can find something else to do,

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I'm going to continue to pour
into my own podcasting and media

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business, which is called ADF
Media.

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I told Mark yesterday I'm going
to go all in.

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I think this is the time.
I started it in 2022, and I

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don't think I ever really gave
myself the nourishment, if you

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will, that I needed.
And now's the time.

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And because I'm going to be in
the classroom a lot, and that

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happens at about the same time
PMC does, I'm just not able to

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be in two places at once.
So if there's days where I'm not

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filling in for my teacher
friends, I'll most definitely

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pop in and I'll be in the group.
And I would love to hear from

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y'all and we can keep up with
each other.

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So thank you all for everything.
Y'all are awesome.

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Thank you, Mark.
And yeah.

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You're welcome, Ashley.
And you know, Ashley has a very

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special place in my heart.
So this was not easy by any

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stretch.
And I say that because quite

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frankly, I think Ashley is PMC
community member number one,

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right?
And yes, I know I recognize that

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we had a different iteration of
this show before it went away

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and then I brought it back on
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But Ashley has been part of my
world.

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But long before PMCI was doing
clubhouse stuff there and I was

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doing like a once a week
afternoon show, Ashley was

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always there for that.
She has taken advantage of

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different offerings I've put
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She's always been a part of
things like Next Gen.

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Podcaster, for example, that
Nick and I were doing for a

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little while.
She's won some contests

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coincidentally for that I've put
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So like I said, is not personal
in the sense of why we're

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parting ways in this regard.
And I'll say it here publicly

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too, that I've shared with
Ashley.

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There is a place for her at
Ironic Media anytime if she

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wants some editing business as I
bring in more clients, I am

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happy to share that with her.
So like I said, this is all love

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for Ashley and everybody feel
free if you feel so inclined,

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send some love her way.
And Ashley, we do expect to see

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you back here in the mornings
whenever you are free.

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So thank you for all you've
done.

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I appreciate you.
Thank you, Mark.

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You're welcome.
OK, so with that gang, I want to

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dive into all the things that we
had planned and we should

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probably just jump right in.
It's time for the Wheel of

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Jargon and I am going to try to
actually share on Riverside to

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our video audience the actual
wheel.

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So if you want to play along, go
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podcastingmorningchat.com/join
us and you can see what I'm

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doing here.
And now we're going to spin the

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wheel on the Wheel of Jargon.
This is basically a bunch of

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different terms that we hear a
lot as content creators.

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Some of us may know what they
mean, a lot of us may not, or a

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lot of us may think we know what
it means, but but we maybe need

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a more clear definition.
So what I'll do is spin the

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wheel and then we will hear from
our cast and crew what their

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definitions are of whatever it
lands on.

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So here it goes.
Now I don't.

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If you're not hearing it in
Clubhouse, don't worry, it's

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being captured.
Let's see.

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Wow.
OK, it says here on the wheel

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host we're hosting and then in
parentheses.

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No, not the podcaster.
So in other words, when we say

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host or hosting in this
instance, we are not talking

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about the host of a podcast
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Who would like to share?
This is my biggest pet peeve.

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This is why I even suggested we
do something about jargon.

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This one thing, OK, Whoever came
up with the idea of calling the

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distribute the distribution
platform a host should be shot

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and quartered.
And then I want to punch him in

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the throat.
Wow.

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That's quite extreme, Dr. Do you
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It is a distribution platform
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get it to all the different
podcast players out there in the

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world.
And the way that I talk to my

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clients about it is think of
your podcast as a home and the

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distribution platform is kind of
the neighborhood that it lives

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in.
You have to pay like the HOA

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monthly for your home.
And the same thing with the

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distribution platform.
And you know, there are

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thousands and thousands of
players and most likely your

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distribution platform is not
going to get all of them, but

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it's going to get it should get
the biggies.

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That's what you're paying for is
the biggies.

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And some come with, you know, a
little cherry on top, like some

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AI stuff, some don't, and you
kind of get what you pay for.

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There are some free
neighborhoods, quote UN quote

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neighborhoods that you can live
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I have clients on like the free
version of Red Circle and I've

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never, ever had any problems
with them.

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But just know that you get what
you pay for.

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You don't get those super duper
analytics.

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You might get some, but you
don't get like the majority of

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them when you get on that free
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OK I'm someone help me down from
my soapbox.

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Please.
Yeah.

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And so these are companies like
Buzz, Sprout, Libsyn, Captivate.

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That's what a hosting platform
is all about.

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And Nick, I know you just shared
something in the chat.

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I was waiting to say it, but I'm
going to give.

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I'm not going to steal your
Thunder.

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Will you say what you just
shared in the chat about

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hosting?
It stays consistent with like

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website hosting.
When you create a website, you

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have to get a host that
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It has like a, a server
dedicated to your website.

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And that's where all the
information ends up getting

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stored and distributed out into
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And I added, I think maybe that
the, the podcast, you know,

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geez, the original podcasters,
maybe they're the ones to blame

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for calling the podcaster a host
when they know that the podcast

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has to be hosted somewhere.
I guess so, but I mean that is

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what you know, if you're the
lead on a show, you're the host.

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I don't know that there would be
another term to use other than

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podcaster that I feel like host
feels more appropriate.

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But yes, I'm with you.
I think that's where this term

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came from.
I think it did come from website

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hosting.
It makes sense.

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OK.
I'm going to go to BC and then

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Ralph and then I want to dive
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Yeah.
And then I wonder what else

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could you call us like you said,
would it be like custodians or

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DJs like they used to call the
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in the day, like what what are
the terms are there for us?

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But I also want to point out,
Dr. I think it's a little

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redundant to punch somebody in
the throat after they've been

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shot in quarter.
Just saying maybe like reorient

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those priorities just a little
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experience the full impact
you're saying?

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You're too young.
You're not a Gen.

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Xer.
That's what we do.

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We do it backwards.
If you want them to get the full

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experience, make sure that
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throat and then do the I'm just
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He's not in her right mind.
It's about the principle.

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I get it.
I get it.

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I happen to agree with you BC
yeah, if you're going to do it,

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make it count, right?
Ralph, did you want to chime in

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at all?
Yeah, I just want to add two

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things thing #1 is this was a
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So I was totally confused by the
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many people think that they're
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their hosting platform, which it
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feed.
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that, I started distributing
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they actually do a little bit
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call called that I use called
Distro Kid.

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And it kind of speaks exactly to
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It's a distribution platform so
maybe we can learn from that and

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instead of calling them hosts,
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distributors or something like
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But it is confusing and that's
why we put on the wheel of

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jargon because for, for new
podcasters, people just getting

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in, they don't know about this.
And so if all of us can do a

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great job of promoting this out
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looks like.
Here's your I like the word

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syndicator too, because I think
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the volume of what it is.
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chime in.
I I don't appreciate having to

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chime in after being shot and
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know, it's all good this
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Thank you, Ralph.
Yeah, good points.

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I like the idea of what was the
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Syndicators.
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I think it speaks to what it
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there in syndication so a bunch
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Yep, I'm with you there.
OK, so let's move on from here.

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And if maybe there, I don't
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I was going to say if there's
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again.
But we also have wins from our

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past week to share.
So lots to do today.

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And this is actually a question
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group by our good friend Janaid,
who's not here at the moment.

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I should, maybe I'll text him to
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getting started.
But earlier this week he posted

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What's the best part of
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And he posted that in our face
in our Facebook group at

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Empowered Podcasting.
And we got a lot of good

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responses.
And I felt like, you know what,

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that's a great Friday question
for you, even though of course

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it is Friday the 13th.
So we'll try to counteract the

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bad luck with some good stuff.
But I do also want to learn a

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little bit more about what you
might think is the worst part of

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podcasting 'cause it is not all
balloons and roses, right?

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There are some things about
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least one thing that probably
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So let's begin and maybe start
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and then go to the best.
I like to to end on a positive

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note.
Who would like to go first?

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What's the worst part and best
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All right, we're going to go to
BC first.

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Go ahead BC.
The worst part, and this is a

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recent experience for me, is
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been doing it, you are never at
any point not susceptible to

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realizing you forgot to hit
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I interviewed someone in August
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She reached out her, her
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there was going to be an update
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mentioned this before before on

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the show, but I spoke to
Riverside support, went through

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all my files and I had to accept
the accept the fact that you

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know what, I did not hit record
and she does not want to

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reschedule, which I understand.
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And I think for me, and this
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hit a mic on radio, for me, the
best part is still just like

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getting to sit there and have a
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Best part?
Yeah, that worst part, not that

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we are all success, success, you
know what I'm saying to that

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thing.
Yes, that thing.

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I'm certainly one of them.
I experienced that with that

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Heather parody interview.
And I swore I hit record.

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I even sent an angry message to
Riverside saying what happened,

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Where's my recording?
I know I hit record.

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And then as I kept digging, I
realized, yeah, I I just didn't

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hit record.
Yeah, that is a sucky part of

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podcasting.
And yeah, I think the best part

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that you shared as far as the
having those conversations with

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other interesting people, I
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our Facebook group.
I'm with you there too, BC who

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else would like to share?
What's the best and worst part?

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Ashley?
Go for it.

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Don't come for me y'all.
I'm actually a little scared to

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say this.
I think the worst part of

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podcasting in my opinion is
that.

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It's sort of got eaten up by
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I enjoyed the medium more when
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not the forefronted expectation.
Now, the best part in my opinion

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is that creating podcasts, it's
something that I get to make the

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Outlast me, you know, that's one
of my goals in life, is to make

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things that are going to be
around longer than I am and are

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hopefully beneficial and
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I don't have any kids.
I really don't have any family

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apart from my parents.
And I just want to make as many

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things that inspire people and
educate people as I can that are

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going to be around longer than I
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I love that the legacy and by
the way, you have plenty of

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family.
They're all right here with you

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right now and leaving that
legacy, I think is so impactful.

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I'm with you there too.
I think that is one of the best

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parts about it.
Just knowing that I have left a

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mark and that could last for who
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So I totally get it.
And you know what, Ashley, I, I

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think I can get on board with
you about the worst part being

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the fact that video has consumed
a lot of podcasting.

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Yet I still think, although it's
commonly hyped, I know based on

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statistics that audio is still
very much alive, very strong,

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and in many cases way more
powerful and effective than

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video.
Podcasting.

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As I continue to say, I think
video is important for

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discoverability, but really I
think why video is so

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discoverable is because of
algorithms like YouTube's.

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I think YouTube has made video
such a big part of podcasting

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because of its algorithm,
because of the way it

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successfully distributes
content.

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It does a much better job than
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Apple and Spotify.
Thank you, Ashley.

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Who else would like to share
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podcasting?
Yes, go ahead, Ralph.

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Yes, I'm going to throw a money
side to this being the money guy

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on the show. 1 of the worst
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this expectation that people are
going to be wealthy and make

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money with their show.
And the reason I see that is

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because it's hard to do that and
it doesn't happen overnight.

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this belief out there by some of
these huckster coaches out there

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saying, well, if you do this and
you do that, you're going to

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make $1,000,000 overnight.
You're going to be the this one.

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You're going to be the that one.
And I see the heartbreak.

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I see the people that have, you
know, had bad relationships with

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family members and bankruptcies
and all that sort of thing.

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I don't mean to be a downer
because I'm going to have a

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really +1 here in a second.
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worst part because there's this
expectation of, you know, the

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person who maybe just wants to
be a hobby podcaster.

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That's cool.
I think that's awesome.

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But I think the other side of
that is there's this push

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towards I got to make money with
this.

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I got to make money with this.
And I'm all about making money

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with, and I'm going to help
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Now here's the good side for me.
And I, and I actually commented

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when Janae put this in the
group, Dude, the relationships

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are amazing.
It started with me back at EPC 2

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and the people that I met there
and, and I think I shared, I've

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shared before were like, I
didn't know any of you folks and

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I consider a lot of you friends
now.

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And that's amazing to me because
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podcasting for me is believe it
or not, I'm kind of an

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introvert.
You probably never guessed that

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about me.
I have a hard time like

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introducing myself to people and
all that.

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But that's the one thing that
podcasting has done for me.

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And it doesn't really answer the
question, but I think it, I

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think it does.
I think it does.

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It helps you build confidence.
And that's the other thing I

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said to Janae.
I said podcasting for me has

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made me a more confident person
and getting behind the mic,

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getting in front of the camera,
I know we can talk about video,

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audio, whatever that looks like,
but I mean, that to me is huge.

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But just the relationships.
There are people that I know now

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that I consider super close
friends that I would never have

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met them if it wasn't for
podcasting.

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I love that Janae put this out
there because I think we all

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need to lean into this because
the days when it's hard, the

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days when it feels like this,
it's just such a struggle.

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Just think about all the
connections of people you've

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made people like Dr. and BC and
Sid and I, I get, I'm not

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leaving anybody out, you know,
and Ashley and all these are

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people that I would have never
had an interaction with in my

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life had it not been for
podcasting.

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So thank you for letting me
chime in about that, Mark.

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But I I think that's the beauty
of what we do here.

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Thank you, Ralph.
I can relate to that too.

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And I think for me, one of my, I
think probably I'm still working

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this out, but I think one of my
top core values in my life is

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connection.
And if, if it's not the top,

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it's one of them for sure.
And that is why I think I've

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been podcasting for over 20
years now, is that it gives me

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that opportunity to connect with
some really amazing people.

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And that includes people I know,
right?

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Like what my longest podcast
stint was the Mark and Lowell

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show.
And that that gave me the

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ability to connect with people
that were I'm very close to in

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my life.
It was a show about friendship

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really when it came down to it.
And I had my closest friends be

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a part of that show regularly.
And now what we do here, I mean,

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you all, I do consider family.
I wasn't just saying that to

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Ashley like it does the
community that podcasting

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births, there's something really
special about that.

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And I don't take that for
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So, yeah, thank you, Ralph.
I appreciate that.

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And yeah, I hear you on the
confidence thing, too.

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I think a lot of us here can
agree.

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All right, Sid, coming to you
now, what say you your worst

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part and best part of
podcasting?

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Good morning, everybody.
So the worst part for me, and

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this has evolved as I've grown
as a podcaster, so but I'm going

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to say that it is promotion on
social media.

449
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,920
It's just God awful.
Like it's just, there's got to

450
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800
be a better way to promote your
show besides posting on

451
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,480
LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok.
There just has to be a better

452
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,680
way, right?
And the best part though, is,

453
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,240
and this is one of the things
that has really evolved for me

454
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,040
because I've been able to put a
team in place to help me make

455
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,920
the show happen, is I get to be
the talent.

456
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,040
I get to be the guy that's
asking the questions and talking

457
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,680
to people and having amazing
conversations and laughing and

458
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,040
building relationships, as Ralph
mentioned.

459
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,080
And I really thrive in that.
I get to be the talent seat.

460
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,360
So I absolutely love that part
of the of being a podcaster.

461
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,200
Thank you, Sid.
I am so with you on the worst

462
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,360
part.
I think that could be mine as

463
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:45,840
well.
I really do.

464
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,200
I think even though I think some
people probably look at some of

465
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,160
the content I make and think,
oh, that's creative or it looks

466
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,480
like he's having fun with that.
I do have those moments where

467
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,640
I'm enjoying making the content.
But it does feel like a grind a

468
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,400
lot of the time.
And there are times that I have

469
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,960
to just be OK with not posting
because it's draining me.

470
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,680
I would imagine that several of
you would agree as well that

471
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,240
that is a really tedious part of
the whole thing.

472
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,840
But promotion in general, you
could probably make that

473
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,040
argument right 'cause if it's
not going to be social media,

474
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,160
you got to make the effort and
promote it somewhere else and it

475
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,480
you and it's not a one and done
situation.

476
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,960
Promotion is not about 1 and
done right.

477
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,400
We've talked about this in the
past when you talk about radio

478
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,960
commercials.
When I was selling radio ads,

479
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,120
the biggest message was you've,
you've got to.

480
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,840
The message has to play at least
seven times or be heard at least

481
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,600
seven times before it actually
sticks with an audience member.

482
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,880
So repetition is key.
And that's why, yeah, whether

483
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,880
it's social media or not, I have
a feeling it's, well, I know

484
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,440
from experience that, yeah, it's
tedious.

485
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080
It's a tedious process.
Hey, Mark, can I jump back in

486
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,280
real quick?
So Ashley put something in the

487
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,800
chat which is very relevant,
which is e-mail is a great way

488
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,480
to go.
And you're not wrong with that,

489
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,000
Ashley.
I mean, we have about 500 people

490
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,920
on our e-mail list.
I was looking at this yesterday.

491
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,400
We get like a average of a 54%
open rate and A8 or 9% click

492
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,120
through rate, which are amazing
numbers.

493
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Then we started at last year, we
started LinkedIn newsletter and

494
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,440
because we did a newsletter
feature on LinkedIn, it actually

495
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,640
gets emailed out to the people
that are subscribed who have

496
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,440
that feature turned on.
And we have over 1000 people on

497
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,200
that.
And that also gets A50 plus

498
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,000
percent open rate and a really
like 6 or 7% click through rate.

499
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,520
So yeah, e-mail is like, I think
it's gold.

500
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,080
It's your captive, it's your own
land, as we've talked about in

501
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,440
the past, right?
And it is a golden way to

502
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,840
communicate, but it doesn't give
you necessarily new reach.

503
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,960
And social media, I think while
we post there is we're looking

504
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,280
for visibility, discoverability,
We're looking for new reach,

505
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280
trying to get new people to
listen to our show where the

506
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120
e-mail audience is, people that
are already following you.

507
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
So that's my two cents.
Dr. wanted to jump into Mark.

508
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Yep.
Thank you, Sid.

509
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,720
Great points.
I'm with you there and I'm going

510
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,840
to get to a question in the chat
in a section in a second.

511
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,120
First Dr. What do you got for
us?

512
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:34,200
As a producer, I think the worst
part for me is not sitting

513
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,720
ahead, but just trying to keep
up with the speed that

514
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:45,840
podcasting keeps evolving too.
The speed is unbelievable.

515
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,800
I've only been involved in
podcasting for about 5 years and

516
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,000
it's amazing how many things
have changed.

517
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,560
How many things are kind of
antiquity, you know, kind of

518
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,400
antique thinking antiquity.
What?

519
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,520
What is?
What is the I hate words in the

520
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,040
morning OK?
That's going to be your tagline

521
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,880
here soon, yes, Yeah, in the.
Morning.

522
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,840
So, but just trying to keep up
with everything new because the

523
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,240
clients that are coming in are
not my generation, they are a

524
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,600
younger generation.
And when I say podcasting to

525
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,000
them, they immediately think
video.

526
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,840
I am immediately thinking audio.
So just trying to keep up with

527
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120
the pace of how things are
changing is the worst part for

528
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,720
me.
And the best part is I guess

529
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,280
it's a double edged sword
because I love learning new

530
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320
things.
So it's that's oh God, I'm

531
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,800
weird.
I'm weird in the morning.

532
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,560
Never mind.
OK.

533
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600
I don't think you're weird
hilarious.

534
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Thank you, Dr. and all right, I
want to.

535
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,400
So there was something I wanted
to address in the chat and I

536
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,240
just realized for some reason
what I just set up didn't work.

537
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,480
So I'll share a different link,
but there was a question in the

538
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,040
chat from who was it from?
It was Adam.

539
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,880
Thank you.
Adam, thank you.

540
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,080
My screen was not working.
Yeah.

541
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Adam was asking if anybody has
paid for ads to promote their

542
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,400
podcast in the past and
wondering if it's increased

543
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,840
viewership.
And we had an episode last year,

544
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120
probably about a year ago now
with Tyler Perry.

545
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,920
No, not the Tyler Perry, but his
name is Tyler Perry.

546
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:37,520
And he shared his success with
us from only using meta ads, so

547
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Instagram and Facebook.
And he went from, say, an

548
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:48,000
average size independent podcast
to one that's generating 90,000

549
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,840
downloads a month.
And he's built up a community

550
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,280
and it's all, well, I wouldn't
say all because he wouldn't say

551
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,920
all.
A big chunk of it he owes to the

552
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,480
Meta ads and he shares his whole
strategy.

553
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,640
So I will make sure to share
that link here in the show notes

554
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,640
as well.
Go check that episode out.

555
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,040
I think you'll learn a lot.
Tyler's awesome.

556
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,000
He actually does some work with
Ironic Media now where he's

557
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
helping some of our clients do
just that.

558
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,200
I have a client that has worked
with Tyler and myself on these

559
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,680
ads and they did like 10 times.
They've grown 10 times in

560
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320
listenership since they started
with me.

561
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,000
Over the course of a year, they
increased their listenership 10

562
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,560
times.
So it can work and you just have

563
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120
to really know how to do that
strategically.

564
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,120
So if you want more information
about that, check the show notes

565
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,800
or you can go to
podcastingmorningchat.com and

566
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,920
you can see in the Our Favorites
section, you can find it there.

567
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,480
And Adam, Adam asked, do you
need a large budget?

568
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,360
No, you don't.
He did it with a budget of 2 to

569
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440
$3.00 a day.
I think with a bigger budget you

570
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,360
can be even more effective.
But he did it with two to $3.00

571
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280
a day.
I'm glad you brought that up

572
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,920
because that's something I've
been thinking about and I kind

573
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,240
of put it on my list to explore,
to do in Q2 and to look at

574
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,440
because now I think I have that.
I think there's enough where I

575
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,240
can do look alike audiences.
And so I'm thinking about doing

576
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,680
that.
And if I do do it, I will share

577
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,640
the results of that because I
think it is a way, even though I

578
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160
said promoting on social media
is like the worst.

579
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,960
But I do think there is a way to
potentially Dr. more traffic if

580
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,880
you can build the right look
alike audience.

581
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,640
I agree.
Yes, Dr., go ahead.

582
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,920
One of my mentors does this and
what he did is he pulled his

583
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,720
audience as to what other shows
they listen to.

584
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,120
For instance, do they listen to
sports?

585
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Do they listen to news?
Do they listen to true crime?

586
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Do they listen all the other
things?

587
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,560
There's, let's face it, there's
a podcast for everything these

588
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,880
days.
And he kind of took that

589
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,440
information and he realized that
his audience not only listens to

590
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,480
him, but also a good portion
listen to the news.

591
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,600
It gave him information as to
where to put those advertising

592
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:12,920
money, monies.
Money, Yeah.

593
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,000
That's cool.
OK.

594
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,360
That's very cool.
Thank you, Dr. And I am trying

595
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,679
to share that link, by the way,
for the live audience as well.

596
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,719
I've been having all sorts of
trouble doing that, but I think

597
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,639
I've got it.
So there you go.

598
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,280
Check that out if you want.
And again, that's in the show

599
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,920
notes.
Janae is in the audience.

600
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,199
By the way, Janae, we're asking
your question from earlier this

601
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,040
week, so if you want to come up
and share, please do.

602
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,239
We want to know the best and
worst parts of podcasting for

603
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239
you.
Anyone else want to share?

604
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,960
Mark, I just wanted to address
the last question that was this,

605
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,080
because I'm actually somebody
who's done that.

606
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,320
I've spent quite a bit on
advertising and it does move the

607
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,400
needle.
It absolutely moves the needle.

608
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,360
My listenership on all of my
shows has tenfold increased by

609
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,400
doing advertisements.
And I'm not talking about social

610
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,000
media advertising.
I'm talking about on podcasting,

611
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,680
hosting platforms like Overcast,
for example.

612
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,200
And it is definitely move the
needle.

613
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,320
But it's like you said, Mark,
you got to be consistent with

614
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,720
it.
And when I've done that, I mean,

615
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,680
I took one of my shows from 20
listeners a day to 200.

616
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,840
That was in a period of about
three months.

617
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,600
So it does work, but understand
your niche, understand what

618
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,280
category and I think we talked
about this on the show maybe a

619
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,360
couple weeks ago, but it does
work.

620
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,440
But just be prepared for once
you start doing it, when you

621
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,400
stop doing it, you will see a
fall off.

622
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,720
So just be prepared for that, at
least when that that's been my

623
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,400
experience, Mark.
Thank you, Ralph.

624
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,280
Yeah, I am absolutely
considering that as part of my

625
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,200
strategy moving forward as I
work to monetize the show, 1 of

626
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,080
the things I want to be able to
do is budget for some

627
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,440
advertising so that I don't have
to feel so tied and locked into

628
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,040
making organic social media
posts, if you will, promotional

629
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,320
posts, if you will, etcetera.
So, yeah, All right, let's go to

630
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,240
Jynade.
Jynade, welcome to the stage.

631
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,120
Please answer your own question,
although I added to it.

632
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,920
Your question was what's the
best part of podcasting?

633
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,080
I want you to lead with what you
think the worst is and then

634
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,720
share your best.
Go for it.

635
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,840
Good morning everyone.
So what's the best part for of

636
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,800
podcasting for me?
Start with your worst.

637
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Yeah, start with your worst.
My worst is managing all the

638
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,440
timelines, all the things, all
the different places you have to

639
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,240
keep information.
And yes, I've gotten good over

640
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:43,120
the time, over the years, but
it's still not my favorite thing

641
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,120
to do, figuring out if the
people are going to turn up on

642
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,760
time.
Do they have good audio?

643
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,840
Like those are my worst things,
but I go with it because I want

644
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,320
to make sure that the guest
that's coming on my show has the

645
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,680
best experience and they have an
Evergreen piece of content.

646
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,960
My favorite part is of course
yapping away.

647
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,240
But unfortunately, because I do
run a interview podcast, I don't

648
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:15,080
get to yap as much, but I do get
to ask really good questions and

649
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,840
pull out from the guest, which
is going to have the listener to

650
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,840
learn, you know, get the value
out of out of the conversation

651
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440
as much as possible.
So that's for me and the reason

652
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,360
I shared this question.
I was like, you know, let me

653
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,520
test this out on Reddit and it
started getting a ton of

654
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,280
response.
I was like, OK, it's a good one.

655
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,080
Let me post it on Facebook as
well.

656
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,040
So there we have it.
Thank you, Janae, love those

657
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,800
answers.
And yeah, I agree with you.

658
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,800
I, I'm sure a lot of people
agree with you is what I should

659
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,520
say.
As far as the worst part, I

660
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400
think, yeah, there are lots of
moving parts in podcasting.

661
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,880
You know, we, we just talked
about like one of the annoying

662
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,120
moving parts is the social media
promotion, right?

663
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,440
That's only one of the, the many
pieces putting a podcast

664
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:03,040
together, especially as a DIY
podcaster as BC defined for us

665
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,480
yesterday.
Yeah.

666
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,720
I think that that's that's a
really challenging part.

667
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,240
And lucky for us, we have
something really special coming

668
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:16,640
out very soon that's going to
help you as a DIY podcaster.

669
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
That's right, handle those
forefronts.

670
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,000
That's right, and people can get
on the wait list about that if

671
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,920
they go to.
Podglue.com.

672
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,400
Podglue.com, that's Janaid's big
project he's been working on.

673
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Go check that out.
By the way, Christina, I just

674
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,240
saw joined us in the audience
and being that Janaid's on stage

675
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,440
as well.
Just a an informal heads up, if

676
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:46,200
you are in the Washington, DC
area, March 26th at happy hour,

677
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,200
I'll get you an exact time soon.
But if you want to pencil this

678
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,080
in and you're in that area,
March 26th happy hour we will be

679
00:38:54,080 --> 00:39:00,080
in Rockville, MD hosting a meet
up that Christina and I will be

680
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,680
Co hosting together.
I know Janae is coming being

681
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600
somebody from that area and I
had asked him if he could make

682
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,240
it earlier this week and he said
he would absolutely be there.

683
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:14,160
So come join an Empowered
Podcasting meet up again

684
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,040
Thursday the 26th Happy hour in
Rockville, MD.

685
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,360
More details to come early next
week.

686
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,640
So you can plan accordingly.
And if you're in the surrounding

687
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,480
area, maybe you can make the
trek out and come join us and

688
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,280
spend an evening with us.
Yes, Janae.

689
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Looks like Tide or Nikki will
definitely come sweet.

690
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,840
Oh, awesome Tide.
Where are you located, Nikki?

691
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Can you completely?
Fine, I'm in Virginia.

692
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,760
In Virginia.
Cool.

693
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Awesome.
I love it.

694
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,200
Thank you.
That's.

695
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
There's another one, Christina,
on the list that we can add.

696
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600
So, yeah, it should be a great
time.

697
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,840
Come join.
We're going to be talking

698
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,120
podcasting, enjoying a drink or
two.

699
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,240
It is a lot of fun.
We did it once before.

700
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:58,040
We're probably doing it at the
same location as we did last

701
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,320
time.
So, yeah, come join us there.

702
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,200
OK, let's do this, gang.
Let's share some wins from our

703
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,680
past week.
I will kick things off to.

704
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,480
Yeah, get the juices flowing,
but start.

705
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,360
Thinking about it, if you
haven't already, but if you're a

706
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,640
regular here, you probably were
thinking about it because it is

707
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,760
Friday and that's what we do.
So my win from this past week is

708
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:27,320
I heard back from what's now
going to be a new consulting

709
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,960
client.
I spoke with them a week or two

710
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,840
ago and what the cool part, at
least what's cool to me is the

711
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,480
fact that they told me they
needed a little bit of time

712
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,920
because they wanted to sit and
interview, for lack of better

713
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,680
word, a few other podcast
consultants.

714
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,720
And when I hear that, it
sometimes takes the wind out of

715
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,080
my sails a little bit like, oh,
great, now I got to wait and see

716
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,320
if somebody else is quote, UN
quote, better than me in their

717
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,440
mind.
But they did reach out to me

718
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,840
early this week and said, Mark,
we're ready to move forward with

719
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,240
you.
We're really excited.

720
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,320
Send us the info, the paperwork,
the invoice.

721
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,920
We're ready to Rock'n'roll, the
podcast that I'm going to be

722
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,760
working with.
They are about two years old.

723
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,360
They are hosted by a married
couple who are both doctors.

724
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,080
And one of them, at least one of
them, is a licensed marriage

725
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,280
couples therapist.
The show is called Marriage IQ

726
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,960
and I'm getting started with
them later this month.

727
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,760
So shout out also, by the way,
to my clients from the podcast

728
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,000
The Loud Quiet.
They are the reason that I

729
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,600
connected with this client in
the 1st place.

730
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,840
They were actually a guest on
Marriage IQ and they started

731
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,400
talking about me and working
with me and how much that's

732
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,320
helped them.
And Marriage IQ got interested

733
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,160
and reached out and the rest is
history.

734
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,920
So that's my win from this past
week.

735
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Who else would like to share a
win?

736
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,160
So I have two wins.
I'm working on a project that

737
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,000
I'm not going to talk about, but
I'm halfway through it.

738
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,960
I had a huge milestone this week
and with this project and it

739
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,280
feels really good to be halfway
through it and I'm excited to

740
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,520
see what happens the rest of
this month as I push this

741
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,200
project across the finish line.
So we're on that later.

742
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600
It is podcasting related, but
I'll share later.

743
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,680
But my real big win of the week
is sitting on stage with us and

744
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000
his name is Janae.
And I just have to give a big

745
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,040
shout out to Janae.
I recorded A10 Excuse Me When My

746
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,720
Hot Takes episodes this week and
I've been struggling with making

747
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:42,080
it work on ecam with the
spinning wheel and everything.

748
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,480
And I've had two that just
busted.

749
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,160
And so I had one yesterday and
Janae hooked me up with beta

750
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,320
software from ECAMM and dude it
worked perfectly.

751
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,760
No glitches, no freezing, the
wheels spun.

752
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,440
If you watch on YouTube the
graphics of that show, we're

753
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,080
going to be much more improved
because of Janae.

754
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,440
I'm learning how to be a on the
spot video producer and

755
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,680
switching scenes and all this
kind of stuff and I'm having a

756
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,400
lot of fun with Ecam.
But Janae, help me figure it

757
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,800
out, help me get things set up
and help me figure out why I was

758
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,520
having all the glitching issues.
And it finally worked yesterday.

759
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,880
So thank you, Janae.
Congratulations to you both on

760
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,280
that win.
That's awesome.

761
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Very cool.
Janae coming through again.

762
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Thank you for always being a
great support to this community.

763
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,080
OK, who else would like to
share?

764
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,240
I want more people to share.
We have some time.

765
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,000
DRR, you're nodding your head.
OK, go for it.

766
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,760
I have a win for today.
Yay for me.

767
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:54,840
OK, four years ago my husband
was in surgery and they cut out

768
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:59,240
all the cancer this week.
He is still cancer free for

769
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:01,680
years so.
That is amazing.

770
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,880
Congratulations.
That is awesome news and thank

771
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,600
you for sharing it with us.
Very cool and send our

772
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,520
congratulations as well.
That is so cool.

773
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Thank you.
Dr. Ashley, you are up.

774
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,160
Go for it.
All right, thank you.

775
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,480
I hope you don't mind, but this
is going to be more like win of

776
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,800
almost two years.
And that is, you know, having

777
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:28,040
the experience and the privilege
of working on PMC for the last

778
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360
two years.
I don't think there's a lot of

779
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:36,240
editors who can say they worked
on the same show every day for

780
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,760
almost 2 years.
And I'm just grateful for, you

781
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,080
know, all I've learned and all
of you and everything I'm going

782
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,920
to get to take forward with me.
I think it's fair to say I'm a

783
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,200
lot quicker than I was when I
started.

784
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,880
And I, I do it a lot better than
I did when I started.

785
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,160
And I'm just grateful.
Thank you, Ashley.

786
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,960
I share that with you.
I am certainly a huge win for

787
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,800
the podcasting.
Morning Chat has been you and

788
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,360
the fact that you've been so
dedicated to it.

789
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,280
You've showed up pretty much
every single morning, did all

790
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,120
the hard work after the show and
put it all together, making my

791
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,080
life a lot easier.
I just couldn't be more

792
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,760
grateful.
So thank you, you, Ashley,

793
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,200
really appreciate you.
And of course, looking forward

794
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,920
to continuing conversations with
you in the mornings whenever you

795
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480
are available.
Love you.

796
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,560
OK, Ralph, you're up.
You want to share a win?

797
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,560
I do.
So mine is very related to my

798
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,160
other job.
My other job is I do taxes for

799
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,720
people and if you don't know
this business, taxes if you've

800
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:44,080
got an LLC or an S Corp are due
on Monday, Monday, not April

801
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,440
15th Monday.
And I'm happy to say as of last

802
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,080
night at 8 PMI have either
completed or filed extensions on

803
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,600
everyone that needed to meet
that deadline by Monday.

804
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,160
Now, that said, I do have a
couple people on my calendar

805
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,880
today and tomorrow, but just a
little public service.

806
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,760
And a win for me is if you have
an LLC or a corporation, and

807
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,520
that's corporation specifically,
don't forget the deadline is

808
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,640
Monday.
A lot of people missed that

809
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,160
because they think April 15th
for personals, but it doesn't

810
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,920
work that way.
So yeah, I don't want to get

811
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,400
into the nuances.
There's a bunch of little

812
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920
nuances that if you're a single
member LLC, it's on your

813
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,280
personal return.
Don't sweat it.

814
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,040
But just heads up.
But I'm celebrating the win of

815
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,920
the, I don't have this mountain
of ones I got to handle today.

816
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,360
So thank you for letting me
share that, Mark.

817
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,400
You're welcome.
Congratulations.

818
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,960
Yeah, I'm sure.
Yeah.

819
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,160
I guess you're somewhat in the
final stretch now of tax season.

820
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,880
You've got what, like a month
left, really of probably

821
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,840
back-to-back to back-to-back
meetings?

822
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,280
And this is the hardest stretch
because most of my clients, as

823
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,920
I've gotten a little bit older,
are more complicated returns.

824
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,400
And they generally wait to the
last minute because

825
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,400
unfortunately, most of them owe
money and they don't want to pay

826
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,680
early.
So yeah, this is, I always tell

827
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,120
my staff, you know, there's this
great point in taxis in the

828
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,360
beginning where people are all
excited and they're getting

829
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,200
refunds and they can't wait to
come in the door.

830
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,680
And they're, But then all of a
sudden one day you notice like

831
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,760
the demeanor changes and now
it's like we're all going to

832
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,240
funerals.
And that's the folks I'm dealing

833
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,560
with now.
I don't mean that in a negative

834
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,680
way, but it just it definitely
is a change in the scenery.

835
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,360
I have a question for Ralph.
Ralph, I keep telling myself

836
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,360
that I want to start paying
quarterly.

837
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,680
What is involved in starting
that up?

838
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,760
That is a great question that I
cannot answer in 6 minutes

839
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,840
seriously.
And one of the things, Mark,

840
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,040
that maybe we want to consider
is I could do something like

841
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,960
that as a, as a show topic,
because there are some, some

842
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,880
very keen things that we could
do Dr. If you want to, if you

843
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,560
want to get in touch with me
offline, I'm happy to talk to

844
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,960
you about that.
But that's something I'd be

845
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,640
happy to share with the
community because that's a,

846
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,240
that's a big question a lot of
people don't think about and

847
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:49,320
then they have this big fear of
April 15th because they haven't

848
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,720
planned ahead of time.
So DRI don't want to minimize

849
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,000
your question.
I just I want to answer it in a

850
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,520
way that is beneficial to
everybody tuning it.

851
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,640
OK, future topic.
Yes, maybe next week, maybe next

852
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,920
week, because like we said there
it is time, tax season is here.

853
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,440
And if you haven't done it yet
or you're getting started or

854
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,840
maybe even in the thick of it, I
think sharing some tips from

855
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,520
Ralph may be really valuable
this time of year.

856
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,800
So thank you for that question
and more to come on that.

857
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,200
OK, final check.
Anybody else want to share a win

858
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,320
from this past week?
Brian, welcome back to the

859
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,640
stage.
Good to see you.

860
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,720
Would you like to share a win
with us?

861
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,800
Good morning.
My win is that I have finally

862
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:43,000
gotten my show onto Apple
Podcasts by way of rss.com.

863
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:49,120
I have not figured out how to
claim the show yet, but I am in

864
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:54,360
the process of doing so.
It is exciting that I have

865
00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:00,840
finally been able to submit my
show to Apple, so I'm very happy

866
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,600
about that.
Awesome, yes I would connect

867
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,560
with rss.com to find out what
the delay is as far or Edward.

868
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,720
The trouble is as far as
claiming that my first thought

869
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:16,480
is is to log into Apple Podcast
Connect and find your show

870
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,440
there.
And it usually has a button to

871
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,080
do something like that.
But I can get into more detail

872
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,920
with you if you need help.
But I'm sure rss.com can help

873
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,320
you as well.
And a good way, a good bookend

874
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,400
here because rss.com, that is
one of those hosting platforms,

875
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,000
which was the word or the term
of the week when we spun the

876
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,120
wheel of jargon.
Brian, thank you.

877
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,800
Congratulations to you.
I'm glad you got that moving and

878
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,160
that it's now going to be
available on Apple Podcasts.

879
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,680
Very cool.
Thank you for heeding the call

880
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,880
also and coming up and and
sharing that win with us.

881
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,600
Gang, we are back Monday
morning, 7:00 AM Eastern.

882
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,640
As I said, Obsession Worthy
podcast series continues with

883
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Jonathan Howard leading the way.
But all of us, the cast and crew

884
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,400
will be here for that.
So come join us for that.

885
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,120
You can go to
podcastingmorningchat.com/owp.

886
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,360
I don't know why I have so many
such a hard time with that.

887
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,680
Come join us there and until
Monday, make it a great weekend.

888
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,880
Everybody take care.