438 What Podfest 2026 Taught Us About Community

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Good morning podcasting Morning
Chat.

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Today is Tuesday, January 20th,
2026, and today we're recapping

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Pod Fest 2026 through shared
experiences, honest reflections,

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and lessons learned as the group
brings you into the room whether

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you attended or not.
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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again, podcasting

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Morning Chat.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
I am your host, Mark Ronick, and

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currently on stage with me.
I hesitated because, as I

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sometimes say, we have a full
house and we really have a full

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house.
Aside from the regulars that I

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share with you in the morning,
we've got a lot of people here

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from Pod Fest who want to share
and discuss their experiences,

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swap stories, etcetera.
So first let me introduce the

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team we have Jonathan Howard,
Ralph Estep, BC Babbles, Dr.

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Fey, Producer Ashley Feller, Sid
Meadows, and Alex Baelish.

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And just to give you a little
idea of today, this isn't going

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to be my Pod Fest recap.
This is ours.

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And of course, I'm going to
share.

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I have plenty I want to share,
but it's not just about me here

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today.
We're going to pull stories and

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experiences.
We're not going to sit here and

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just list out all the sessions,
although I think it's important

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and interesting to share some of
the more memorable sessions that

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some of you experienced at
Podfest.

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The first thing I think I
brought back with me from

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Podfest is a potential cold.
I got a little scratchy throat,

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little congestion, not doing
terribly.

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Although I will say the insomnia
is back.

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Thankfully, that didn't happen
while Rich Perry, who's here on

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stage, my roommate at Pod Fest,
that didn't, that didn't occur

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while I was there.
Although Rich, I will tell you

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now, you were snoring a bit.
Have I told you that before?

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That you, you snore?
I didn't know that.

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No, I know that.
Yes, you are a snorer and you

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know, I mean, you also had a
couple drinks at the end of the

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night.
So, you know, sometimes when we

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drink a little bit, sometimes we
can snore at times, sure, But it

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was no big deal.
I was able to fall right back

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asleep.
But for whatever reason, once

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the work day is upon me, my
sleep gets screwed up.

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So anyway, let's do it.
I want to hear from you.

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What's the first moment from Pod
Fest that pops into your head

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right now when I ask that
question?

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A moment from your Pod Fest that
you would like to share.

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You going to make me go first?
OK, I'll go first.

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Probably the first moment from
Pod Fest that pops into my head

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right now is that award that I
won and probably jumping ahead

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because I think I'm going to
also ask about unexpected

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moments later.
And this was this is definitely

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a memorable moment for me.
I had no idea it was going to

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happen.
All I knew was Chris Kremitsos

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had texted me probably two or
three times throughout the Pod

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Fest week telling me he'd really
like me to be at the closing

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ceremonies.
He wanted to give me a shout

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out, was how he put it.
So of course I'm going to show

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up for for that, not just
because they're shouting me out,

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but if the man who founded Pod
Fest asked me to be there, I'm

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going to be there.
And I really had no idea what to

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expect.
But once they started, they

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handed out a couple of awards
and there was an award, I forget

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which award it was, but there
was one award.

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And then I said to myself, Oh my
gosh, he's not going to give me

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an award, is he?
But I received the Glen Herbert

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Community Hero Award.
Glenn the geek is what he goes

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by Glenn the geek community Hero
award.

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And this was because I believe
of several things.

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Mainly the first one was just
that as I've shared with you

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before, I've been leading the
speaker community in networking

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calls to help build community
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And of course, I was also
helping out as a volunteer at

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Podfest as well.
I am Seed, one of the tracks for

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beginners, and I was very
grateful, appreciative, little

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humble for that.
And it really did feel full

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circle for me because I've
shared before, I mean, look,

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empowered podcasting was
inspired by Pod Fest and for

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multiple reasons.
One of the reasons being that

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for the first couple years, I
never really felt like I fit in

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there.
And I recognize that was

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probably more my own stuff, not
the fact that Pod Fest wasn't

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welcoming, but I just felt like
I had a hard time finding my way

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there.
And then Fast forward to my

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fifth Pod Fest.
I'm speaking on a stage for the

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first time.
They're talking about community.

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And then full circle, winning an
award for community.

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That was a great moment for me.
Anyone else want to share?

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Go ahead.
Who just came off Mike?

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It's me.
Hi Cliff.

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So I just want to say this was
my very first Pod Fest

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experience, and I will say what
I said at the gratitude

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ceremony.
When I started podcasting in

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2005, for the first few years,
it was a very lonely thing to be

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a podcaster because there
weren't that many of us in the

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world and we only knew each
other through online

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connections.
And then eventually there were

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these things called pod camps,
these conferences for folks to

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gather together in local
communities, and those were the

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best.
Eventually there were some

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podcast conference in the early
days from the Berkwyn brothers,

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and then there was New Media
Expo with the podcasting track

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and then eventually Podcast
Movement.

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And then the early days of all
of those events, there was this

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family feel, all of us together,
all all of us who were so

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passionate a podcast about
podcasting.

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We travel anywhere to be in the
room with other podcasters who

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loved it as much as us.
And somewhere along the way, a

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lot of that feel had gotten lost
in big events that cater towards

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more of the NPR and the
corporate conglomerates that are

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taking a lot of attention share
for in in the podcasting space.

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And so when I came to Pod Fest,
I'd heard people call it Pod

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Fam, but now I understand why.
It is a family gathering of over

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1000 podcasters and it felt like
family.

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It felt like those early days.
And yet it's still a very large

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venue with a large crowd.
But it was my people and it was

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so amazing I that that that was
what stood out to me.

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Thank you, Cliff.
Yeah.

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And the really interesting thing
about that is the fact that I, I

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believe what I heard was there
was something like 80% were

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first time Pod Fest people
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And I say that the interesting
part about that is the fact that

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it still felt like family.
It felt like a reunion, even

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though there are people that we
didn't meet there until this

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very time here at Pod Fest.
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And another thing that I found
very interesting, somebody else

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had mentioned this, but I
definitely concur with what they

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said.
And that is no matter where you

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went in the entire hotel, if you
saw somebody that had a Pod Fest

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badge, just walking up and
having a conversation was the

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most natural thing.
And I'm not the type who

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typically will go up and just
introduce myself to people that

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I don't already know.
But I found myself just

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gravitating towards that because
I had never had any experience

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where I wasn't fully welcomed
into whatever conversation was

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already taking place.
And so the most friendliest

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crowd and the most easiest
networking experience and

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meeting new piece people that
I've had at a conference in

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years.
Thank you, Cliff.

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That's Cliff Ravenscraft.
I was glad that I got to sit

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next to him during Alex
Sanfilippo session.

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I was glad we got a picture
right before we left.

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I was terrible with pictures
this time last year.

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I think I did a great job this
year.

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I did not go in with any
intention about taking pictures

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and that cost me.
We talked about this when we

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were leading up to Pod Fest last
week about setting intentions.

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That was one that I forgot to
set and I paid.

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But it's OK because I got
pictures from other people as

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well.
But yeah, Cliff is right.

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There was this real sense of
family and very easy to talk to

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people.
Let's go to Shay and then we'll

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check in with Deb.
Good morning, Shay.

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Good morning.
Thanks for having me.

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Sorry I missed you, Cliff.
I have no idea you were there.

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So thanks for showing up here
and welcome to the family, as

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they say.
I'm going to bounce off what you

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what you said and also what Mark
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The thing about Pod Fest is
literally like a reunion,

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whether you have there the first
time or you met somebody on

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Wednesday night at an opening
and then you saw him again on

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Thursday and Saturday.
It's like, Oh my gosh, tell me

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everything that you've learned
so far.

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And it's just such a welcoming
environment, which is why this

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is they had been my sixth time
of attending Pod Fest, third

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time as a speaker.
And a full circle moment, if I

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may share, was 2020.
The first day they had micro

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cons and they had a military
crater con and I was sitting in

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the audience and met lots of
people and military creator con.

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But one particular gentleman I
ended up hiring as my podcast

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producer.
And jump ahead to now.

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We started a business together,
a mastermind for podcasters and

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entrepreneurs.
And this year, we then spoke on

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stage together at Pod Fest on
Saturday.

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So it was just such a full
circle moment.

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Here we are, you know, hanging
out in the hallways, just

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laughing it up and sharing and
collaborating 6 years ago and

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now being able to present on
stage, which Rich did an amazing

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job.
I'll give a shout out to Rich.

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Amazing job for emceeing our
room and so thankful for his

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presence there.
So it's just such, so great to

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see all of you.
Thank you, Shay.

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Yeah, Rich is a real pro at MC
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He's taught me the ropes around
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And I've done that now the past
couple of years.

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And I got to say, if you're ever
interested in participating more

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than just attending at Pod Fest
or at any conference for that

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matter, including Empowered
Podcasting, if you don't feel up

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to the challenge of speaking,
emceeing is a great way that you

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can really connect with a lot of
people, especially if you do it.

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I was going to say do it the
right way, but that feel doesn't

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feel good to me to say.
But if you do it with good

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intention, you can really make a
big impression.

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Thank you, Shay.
It's so cool.

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Yeah.
You and Adam to see the two of

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you and what you've started to
do over the past couple of

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years.
I know you guys have been

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working together since you guys
started your journey together at

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Pod Fest, But over the past year
or two, seeing what you guys are

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up to is really cool to see.
And that's just, that's what's

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so great about these conferences
is that.

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Yeah, you walk away with stuff
for your personal podcast, but

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you also walk away with so much
more partnerships,

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collaborations, business
opportunities, etcetera.

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It's super cool.
All right, I'm going to go to

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Deb who's on stage.
Deb, good morning to you.

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Did you want to share something
from your Pod Fest, either your

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a moment that comes to mind or
maybe even something you

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expected Pod Fest to give you
and what you actually got from

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it?
Because sometimes what you

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expect doesn't always come to
fruition and something else

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surprises you.
Oh yeah, that is so true.

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The first thing I want to say is
as a newbie, as one of the 80%

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who'd never been to Pod Fest
before, getting to be made to

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feel like I belong there made a
huge difference.

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To walk in not knowing what to
expect and then being greeted by

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a friend and a hug.
So that was lovely.

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The thing that surprised me the
most was probably all of the

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connections that I was able to
make, all the new people that I

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was able to meet and learn from.
And Shay had told me the magic

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is in the hallways, and that was
really true.

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The sessions were great, but the
collaborative energy in the

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hallway and the encouragement
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I think that's so true.
Thank you for sharing that, Deb.

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I think that's so true,
especially I think for newer

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attendees.
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the the hallways, get to know
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value in that.
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this speaker sessions, but I
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thing for the newer podcasters
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I think for me at this point, I
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sessions because I think what I
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questions when there's time for
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Because there's usually
something that I can go and

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follow up with them afterwards.
Like maybe I have more I could

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add to the answer that they were
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Maybe they just said something
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and I want to talk to them.
It just it gave me permission to

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connect with them in a different
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Absolutely.
That makes sense.

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The way you get to know them in
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what their goals are, what
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it creates a better connection.
That's very true.

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Was there a session Deb that in
particular that that really

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stuck out to you that you walked
away with with maybe a ton of

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value?
Yes.

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And you're going to think I'm
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honestly your session and that's
you're.

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You are just saying that.
No, I promise.

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It's because that's my focus is
community, and that's also where

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I need to to grow in building
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It's so important.
And what you had to offer in

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your session was incredibly
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And I've already got all sorts
of ideas rolling around up in

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that head of mine.
Thank you, Deb.

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I appreciate you saying that.
I only paid Deb 100 bucks for

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that.
So if anybody's looking for a

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good value, talk to Deb.
She'll talk you up.

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No, I really didn't, but thank
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Yeah, the talk.
I guess I should just briefly

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share about that because I've
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struggle leading up to it.
I wouldn't say it was a home

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run, but I would say it was
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Maybe it was an in the park home
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How's that?
I mean, there were moments that

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I did lose my place.
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posts, I lost my place, but for
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I found that I was just in the
moment, in flow, sharing from

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the heart.
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was prepared, but I realized in
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didn't need the little note
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just in case.
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is that I'd get in such a
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stopped that flow, sometimes I
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that.
And overall, I was really proud

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of myself.
I think I, for the first time

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really on a Pod Fest stage doing
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I really haven't done something
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I think it went really well and
I just got some video from our

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friend Jana Swan.
She took video of the whole

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thing and I started watching it
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I was like, wow, that dude knows
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So yeah, I'm glad you got
something out of that, Deb.

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I did get a lot of positive
feedback about it too, so it all

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worked out and now that I have
gone through it once, I feel

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much better about doing this
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So I'm super excited about that.
Let's check in with Janae if you

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have a minute.
Did you want to share anything

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from your Pod Fest experience?
This was a great experience.

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Like you said, Mark, this was
your first 50 year.

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Mine was 50 as well.
And what happens with these

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events is even though there's
80% of your people, you still

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men manage to find the people
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years and you build that
relationship, you build that

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friendship and family.
And I felt really loved and

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cared for and recognize, right?
We you get that recognition as

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you keep coming back.
So I felt at home like a lot of

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us said, you know, it's kind of
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a family reunion.
I felt a lot of that myself.

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So getting to speak up on stage
again was an excellent

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experience and overall a very
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Done event.
I didn't get to spend as much

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time at the exhibits like you I
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overall it was really good.
Thank you.

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You're welcome.
Yeah, Podfest's exhibit hall is

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always, well, has always been in
my experiences smaller than some

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of the other conferences I've
been to podcast movement and non

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podcast related conferences.
Theirs is a little smaller, but

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that's not a knock or anything.
It's just it is a little bit

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smaller.
And I found that, yeah, I

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really, I think I walked around
one time the entire time I was

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there.
But overall, I mean, it was cool

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to see some of the the regulars
like Buzz Sprout and Libsyn.

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And there were some new ones as
well that I'm looking forward to

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sharing more with you as I have
more conversations with them.

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I think there are a few vendors
that I met that may want to be a

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part of Empowered Podcasting and
part of the podcasting morning

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chat.
So more to come there.

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I'm going to go to Jason, Sir
Cone and then I'll go back down

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the line.
Jason, good morning.

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Jason was one of my one of my
pals throughout the weekend.

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Me, Jason and Rich hung out
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Jason, any takeaways?
Any anything you want to share

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from your experience at Pod
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Yeah, man, I was just hanging
out with you trying to get the

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rub.
What do you mean?

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Well, I mean, being around Mark
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you've built from everything
that you got to lay out at Pod

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Fest, everybody, I want to feel
a little bit of that.

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So made it a point to be in your
presence, Sir.

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But I will echo what people have
said about your presentation.

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That was a great moment for Pod
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You really did a lot to spread
the good word about community

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and it showed that people really
care about that because you had

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a packed house for that call.
For that presentation, people

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hanging from the rafters to hear
what you had to say and it was a

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you did a great job of it.
I, like you, told everybody the

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stress leading up to it all paid
off in the end.

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So for me, I will say that that
this was my first Pod Fest

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experience as well.
And when I got into the groove

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and started seeing people and
making connections and doing

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everything you do in an event
like this, I questioned myself,

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why did I wait?
Why did it wait?

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Why did it take me so long to
get down to Orlando to be a part

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of this?
But now that I'm here, I'm going

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to make the absolute most of it.
Something I learned, and I think

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it really shows what we're
building with Empowered

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Podcasting.
As we've said, events like Pod

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Fest, they're larger, they're
great, There's so many things

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you can accomplish.
But I think about what we're

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building with Empowered
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more small and intimate.
One of my favorite moments of

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the week was the agency
breakfast that you and I

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attended Mark, that Seth
Silver's put on.

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And that was a very small group.
But in that 2 hour period that

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we all sat there and shared
ideas and talked about our gains

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and our our struggles from the
past year and what we were

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looking to build.
I was just blown away by some of

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the insight that was shared at
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And it made me change a couple
thoughts in my mind about where

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I'm going with my business.
But ultimately it made me

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realize there's so much that can
happen in this smaller setting

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because everybody has a voice.
Everybody gets an opportunity to

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learn from one another.
And I think that's just a true

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testament to what Empowered
podcasting has become and what

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it's going to be as we continue
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So that was just one moment for
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That was absolutely huge.
Another one, I'll say that I

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know Mark, you and I kind of
talked about this privately.

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I actually, I don't think I
brought it up to you in the

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moment, but I remember when we
were sitting in the restaurant

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on Saturday night and I glanced
to my left and I saw that high

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top table with all of these
podcasting legends and all these

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people that have accomplished so
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And I just remember in my head,
I just said, that's a table I

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want to be sitting at someday.
And I think if we all keep doing

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what we're doing at this table
and that table being me, you and

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Rich, we're going to do
something great and and have an

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opportunity to be at that table.
And I mentioned that my little

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LinkedIn recap, your comment was
great, Mark.

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Like, no, they're going to be at
our table either way.

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Just to think that we're on a
course that someday maybe at Pod

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Fest 2047, people are looking at
us at that high top table going,

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yeah, that that looks like the
place to be.

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But overall is a tremendous
experience and I'm looking

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forward to what next year
brings.

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I hope it's not 2047, maybe
20-30.

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Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's
a much better idea.

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I'm just trying to match the age
range of the people that we saw

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there.
Jason, you were one of the smart

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people.
What maybe depending on your the

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size of your wallet, the smart
people that chose a different

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hotel to stay at because it was
a little pricey.

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That's why Rich and I room
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It's one reason why is to save a
little bit of money on the

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hotel.
That hotel is a little pricey,

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huh?
Well I will say this two things

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I would like to get a roommate
next year but I will warn you

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I'm probably a worse snore than
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But I learned oh man it ended up
just being more of a running

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joke because I just thought it
had to be told.

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I can't remember which day it
was.

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Yes, stayed in a different hotel
so I had to Uber back and forth.

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Fortunately I had some friends
that were in town that had a car

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and they were able to drive me a
couple times but overall just

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did the Uber thing back and
forth.

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But well the one day I had my
contacts in and they dried out

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just because I I would say just
because of the air in that

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place.
It just finally got to me.

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So I had to go to the little
shop and buy a little bottle of

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eye drops. 18 dollars, $18.00
for eye drops.

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So wow, right, And this is the
thing I want to say like yes, it

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became a running joke and I just
we all just laughed about it.

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But I don't want that to be
something that turns you off to

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going to pod fest.
Yes, that hotel and resort is a

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little bit pricey, but there are
alternatives that will help you

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save money.
And I know that I was the only

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one that didn't have any
problems flying home between you

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and Rich, but I did have a
little bit of a delay.

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And I say that because I got a
great deal on a hotel and flight

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combo.
And yes, the hotel was a couple

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miles down the road, but I don't
feel like I really missed

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anything.
I was able to get there on time

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and be a part of everyday's
festivities.

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So yeah, it is a little bit
sticker shock.

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That's some kidding items there.
But overall, I wouldn't let that

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deter me or deter you from
choosing to come to a great

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event like POD.
Fest agreed.

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The bottled water there I was
getting right.

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Yeah.
I mean, that in itself, just a

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regular sized bottle of life.
Life water.

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Is that what they call it?
That was like 10 bucks.

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It was like akin to being at the
airport still or being at a

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stadium and you're where you're
spending $25 on a big beer.

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I get it.
They've got you.

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When she said $18.00 to me for
the eye drops, I just kind of

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stared at her for a minute and I
was like, is this thing going to

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edit my podcast too?
What are you?

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What are you selling me here?
Ashley in the chat says are they

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gold plated eye drops?
They might be actually you'd.

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Think I'm going to cherish that
bottle is and use it as

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sparingly as possible.
Thank you, Jason.

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I'm going to go to Ralph because
Ralph said he had a question for

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the attendees of Pod Fest.
So go for it Ralph.

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Good morning to you and Ralph.
But actually before you go on,

450
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,880
thank you for holding down the
Fort on Thursday and Friday and

451
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,240
leading those conversations.
I did get a chance to listen to

452
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,800
a little bit of both and what I
heard you did a fantastic job

453
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,280
leading the charge, especially
being the newer, A newer member

454
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,840
of the team.
You just took the reins and ran

455
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,280
with it.
And I thank you.

456
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,840
So great job, Mark.
I appreciate you saying that.

457
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,400
And the team really made me look
good.

458
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,840
So that's the whole part of
that.

459
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080
But I have to be totally honest
with you, the whole time I was

460
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,240
doing that, I had a huge, I just
felt like I missed Pod Fest.

461
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,280
And so I was watching the
pictures coming back and I got

462
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,560
to watch the Hall of Fame awards
ceremony.

463
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,320
What an amazing time for that
was.

464
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840
But I had a practical question.
Oh, by the way, Jason and

465
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,440
everybody else, if you spent
money at Pod Fest, keep those

466
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,800
receipts.
Those are tax write offs.

467
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,920
Even if you paid $18.00 for eye
drops just put on the receipt

468
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,960
then this is the only place you
could buy them because where you

469
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,720
work.
So at this little practical

470
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,960
advice but.
My question for those who

471
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,200
attended what's 1 surprise take
away from your attendance?

472
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,160
I know before Podfest we had a
discussion about how to prepare,

473
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,000
how to be ready for it.
What's 1 surprise thing that

474
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,720
each of you might have, you
know, discovered while you were

475
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,400
there too?
Weren't expecting ahead of time.

476
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,480
I love this question.
I saw some baza, wanted to

477
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,520
share.
So some baza.

478
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,560
I'll see.
We'll put you on the spot and

479
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,760
then you can share whatever else
you'd like to share.

480
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,360
But yeah, Ralph is asking.
Any surprising moments for you

481
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,160
at Pod Fest?
Good morning to you.

482
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,680
Good.
Morning, Mark.

483
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:42,440
My surprising moment was the new
people that were some people

484
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,440
were brand new, but the way they
dove into the sessions and were

485
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000
willing to hang out was so
different.

486
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,680
That was to me, I think, my
great moment.

487
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,720
You were doing a great job
Sambaza of grabbing new people

488
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,920
and introducing them to
everyone.

489
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,800
You are such a friendly face
there and it is so cool to see

490
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,920
how you just embrace these new
people and really make them feel

491
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,120
like they're in the right place.
I commend you for that.

492
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,360
That was really a nice touch.
I thought that you made a big

493
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,840
impression.
Oh, thank you, Mark.

494
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,000
When you get to Pod Fest,
there's so many things that are

495
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,760
happening at the same time.
And I've felt that before.

496
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,200
And I think if you could have a
buddy that you can hang on to

497
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,040
that can show you the ropes,
who's been there, I think you

498
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,920
would have a better time and
enjoy yourself much better.

499
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,040
And then kind of like have a
whole new understanding from the

500
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,880
app.
I started off with the Hoover

501
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,400
app.
I got engagements with the

502
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920
people from there.
So when I meet you and I look at

503
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,040
your card and I'm like, oh, wait
a minute, I talked to you and

504
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,120
some people who we had
conversations with on the app,

505
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,040
we turned it into conversations
at the Pod Fest.

506
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,040
It was just great to kind of
take what was there from the app

507
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,440
right down to being personal
one-on-one.

508
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,320
And the app is a great thing to
do to to use first.

509
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,360
What I would also like to say is
volunteer.

510
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280
If you volunteer, it takes you
to a session.

511
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,640
They'll assign you a session.
You'll be there for two to three

512
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,680
hours, just two to three hours.
And in that time it'll be

513
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
random.
However, when you sit there, you

514
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,480
will actually take your time.
It'll be like your moments to

515
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,160
chill and view things and listen
to a session.

516
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,920
You may never get to see other
sessions, but that could be the

517
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,720
only session you'll see and you
probably get something out of

518
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,400
that particular session that
you're volunteering at.

519
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,680
I think the love that I
experienced around there from

520
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,680
everyone, I got to meet new
people and like you said, Mark,

521
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,480
we were busy like connecting
here and saying hey, somebody

522
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680
needs something here.
I'd be like, hey, Mark, I think

523
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,280
I know somebody who may need
help in that, or this is

524
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,160
somebody who you'll need.
So there was those, there were

525
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,960
those interactions.
And I think I met people from

526
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:03,120
Texas.
One of the greatest things also.

527
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,760
OK, I'll add this surprise
moment.

528
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,400
I come from a small town called
Phony and it was a surprise to

529
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,080
me that I actually met somebody
who was from 40 and doesn't live

530
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,720
too far away from me and we got
to connect.

531
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,080
The last thing I'm going to say
is going into the second year

532
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,880
from the first year, I think it
becomes a bit easier.

533
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,440
You kind of know your way around
adding small things here and

534
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,080
there and which is the thing
about Pod Pod Fest, you start

535
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,840
off at, I'll say zero and then
you just keep adding stuff one

536
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,880
at a time.
This year what I added was I sat

537
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,440
down with people for 5 minutes
with flash cards.

538
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,920
I made a session, a meet up and
people came up and we did talks

539
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000
and I asked them, you know,
about their podcast.

540
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,640
And then we did some flash
cards.

541
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,240
Great thing to do to get to know
people.

542
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120
And I'm hoping that these
conversations will be coming

543
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720
further and further and
hopefully I'll do it next year.

544
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,120
And that was what I wanted to
add about my Pod Fest experience

545
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,160
this year.
And thank you all for whoever

546
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,840
was there.
Thank you all for making me

547
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,240
comfortable and give me a hug if
you got a chance to give me a

548
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,240
hug.
I definitely had a few chances

549
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,120
and got a few hugs from some
baza.

550
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Yeah, it was great seeing you
there.

551
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,440
Some baza.
And I'm going to keep things

552
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,000
going.
Cliff, I have a question for

553
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,960
you.
And then I, there are other

554
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920
people on stage as well, like
Clancy.

555
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,680
If you wanted to share anything,
I'm going to come to you as

556
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840
well.
But Cliff, I wanted to come to

557
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,200
you because, you know, I went to
Alex's session and pleasantly

558
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,480
surprised to see you there and
came and sat right down next to

559
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080
you.
And I saw and I kept looking

560
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,160
over at you every so often
anyway, And I saw you taking

561
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,000
lots of notes.
And I said to myself, wow, this

562
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,520
is interesting.
Like Cliff is here is Cliff is

563
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,080
such a long time veteran of
podcasting, been doing it just

564
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,800
as long, if not longer than I
have.

565
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,600
I mean, I when I was in my early
days, I found Cliff's website

566
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800
and I used to get advice from
Cliff's website all the time.

567
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,960
So I kept saying to myself, wow,
is he like I would never expect

568
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,960
that he would be learning stuff
at this point, but it certainly

569
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280
looked like you did.
So did you get a lot out of Pod

570
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Fest Cliff?
Absolutely.

571
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,160
So when I started Podcast Answer
Man in 2006, the very first

572
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,240
episode I said, listen, I am
launching this with the name

573
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,280
Podcast Answer Man, not because
I have all of the answers.

574
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,080
I certainly have lots of
experience.

575
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,640
I have thousands of hours in
podcasting, but I don't have all

576
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,360
of the answers.
And then what I said next is

577
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,000
you'll be hard pressed to find
somebody who's more passionate

578
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,680
about podcasting than I am.
And any question you have, I

579
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,680
know where to get the answers.
And so when I was at Pod Fest, I

580
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,560
was sitting in the front row of
each of the sessions I attended

581
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,640
and I was taking notes because I
wanted to know what is the area

582
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,240
of expertise of each of these
peers, each of these speakers,

583
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,800
each of these people who are
also out there sharing their

584
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,640
knowledge, sharing their
experiences.

585
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,280
And so for me, yes, I'm learning
things that I didn't know.

586
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,880
There's way too many things to
explore these days, way too many

587
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,200
technologies and services and
ways AI can be implemented in

588
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,560
all of that stuff.
But at the same time, even the

589
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,160
stuff I already know, I like the
people who specialize and go

590
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,640
even further to serve at a
deeper level in a niche specific

591
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,880
way.
So I'm sitting there taking

592
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,320
notes not only on the new things
I'm picking up, but I'm also

593
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,960
making notes of the nuances of
who can I refer people that I

594
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,560
talked to in the future to go to
them for the additional deeper

595
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,320
layer on a specific topic.
Anything specifically Cliff that

596
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,920
you walked away with?
Maybe like an aha moment or wow,

597
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,880
I'd never thought about it that
way.

598
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,920
There were plenty, and I think a
lot of it had to do with tools

599
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,080
related to AII.
My eyes were opened to some of

600
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,480
the things that I have just
automatically discounted because

601
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,639
I like to have my fingers on all
of the things and not

602
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,440
necessarily form out any of the
decisions when it comes to

603
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,560
editing.
But there were a few tools that

604
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,639
were mentioned and specifically
even you had highlighted this

605
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:22,840
once I put a, a short video out
not too long ago and I said

606
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,199
something, one of my greatest
pet peeves or one of my biggest

607
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,760
things that I really hate is
actually doing an editing on a

608
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:37,159
podcast where for an entire hour
the guest went and it's like,

609
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,800
you know, you could use AI to do
that.

610
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,800
And so I've known those tools
that have been out there.

611
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000
I've just never used them
because I have been cautious of

612
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,239
the fact that maybe it's too
aggressive on its edits.

613
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,639
So I actually heard people say
what the tools they're using.

614
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,400
I'm going to actually go apply
those tools, play with them, see

615
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520
if I can get the results that
are preferable.

616
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,800
It's just little nuances like
that.

617
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,960
Yeah, thank you, Cliff.
And I think for me, one session

618
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,920
that really stood out as you
shared as far as a lot of good

619
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:13,280
info on AI, Annika Jackson, she
put on such a great

620
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,880
presentation.
She did something similar at our

621
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,240
conference at Empowered
Podcasting, really showing all

622
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:22,600
of the different tools that
she's using, specifically AI

623
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,800
tools to help her from pre
production to post production to

624
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,080
promoting her podcast.
And the reason why, you know,

625
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,880
some of you maybe think, but
Mark, you talk about using AI

626
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,080
all the time.
I and I do use it, but the way

627
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,800
that she's using it, she's
really figured out how to use

628
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,840
these various tools, whether
it's ChatGPT, clawed perplexity

629
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,840
and more specific AI tools to
podcasting.

630
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,680
She's figured out a way to
really work all of them together

631
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,720
into real, what the best way to
put it is a a well oiled

632
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:59,920
machine.
And that's one area that I

633
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,280
haven't really explored with all
the different AI tools is how do

634
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,760
I really make these all work
together?

635
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,600
And she just blew my mind
because I didn't get to see her

636
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,200
presentation at Empowered
Podcasting.

637
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,840
If you're interested in really
taking your AI experience to

638
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,320
another level, I would say,
look, Anika Jackson U.

639
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,960
I'll make sure that I give
Ashley a link to connect with

640
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,360
her, and we'll put that in the
show notes for you.

641
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,680
Clancy, good morning to you.
Clancy from the podcast The Loud

642
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,840
Client, the client, I was mixing
2 sentences in one.

643
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,880
She is a client and her podcast
is the loud quiet and that's a

644
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,160
podcast for empty nesters.
Her and her husband Rick, they

645
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,480
do that show together and now
they've put out a book or it's

646
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,960
coming out all based on their
experiences as empty nesters and

647
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,040
of course, experiences from
their podcast, Clancy.

648
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Good morning.
Do you want to share any

649
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,480
experience from your Pod Fest?
Good morning.

650
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,520
Yes and I have the conference
called so sorry my voice is does

651
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,720
not sound great.
Last year was our first year and

652
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,160
we really got invited because of
Rick's business podcast.

653
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,400
So we hadn't been doing ours,
but maybe a little over a year

654
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,040
together.
So I kind of went in with a

655
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,880
little bit.
I've talked about this on our

656
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,160
podcast of imposter syndrome.
I didn't really feel like I was

657
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,160
supposed to be there.
I wasn't sure.

658
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,600
We just decided to do a podcast
to stay connected after our

659
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:45,200
youngest left for college.
But we met Mark and we met Tina,

660
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,200
who is a publisher of our book.
And I mean, completely changed

661
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,640
the trajectory of our podcast.
So going back this year, I went

662
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,720
in with a little more
confidence.

663
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,640
We were actually, you know, on a
speaker's panel.

664
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,080
And it was just a great
experience.

665
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,280
Last year, I felt like I had to
fill my time with sessions and

666
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,680
be in every session because we
knew no one there.

667
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,000
And so this year it was so nice
to be able to.

668
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,800
I did a lot more hallway talking
than I did going to sessions and

669
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,120
that was just so great.
And it was so great to see you,

670
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,880
some of you guys in our speaking
event and then, you know, going

671
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,000
to y'all's.
It was just the I love the

672
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,920
support.
The support was just amazing

673
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,680
this year.
And again, we met someone this

674
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,440
year that we are probably going
to start working with marketing

675
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,840
our book.
And so you just never know who

676
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,560
you're going to meet that will
change the, you know, your

677
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,760
business completely.
So I would just encourage

678
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,560
everyone to just, yeah, go if
you can and just make some great

679
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,520
connections.
I love that Clancy, what advice

680
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,200
would you give to somebody who
is, you know, thinking about

681
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,960
going to a podcast conference
brand new, never been before.

682
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,960
And you know, because like, I
feel like it's you're a good

683
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,840
person to ask, considering when,
like you said, your first time,

684
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,280
you knew no one.
What advice would you give to

685
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,560
somebody who's on the fence
about going to a conference?

686
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,400
I would say hop over the fence.
Just do it now.

687
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,640
It was nice for us because yes,
I haven't built.

688
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,160
I have a built in buddy.
So I do agree with some, Maza,

689
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,800
if you can bring someone with
you, even if they're not in the

690
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,440
podcasting world, bring them
with you because it is nice if

691
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,240
you don't know anyone to have
someone that is there for you.

692
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,680
I was not all in on it last
year, but now I am.

693
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,080
And I'd also say start with some
of the smaller ones, Like you're

694
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,880
smart.
You know, we told several people

695
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,280
about your event.
And so I would say, yeah, find

696
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,640
some smaller, you know, try to
connect.

697
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,040
We're trying to grow our North
Texas podcasters and start

698
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,240
events here.
I would just say just do it.

699
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,800
Yeah, Thank you.
Yeah, just do it.

700
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,720
That's I think the best bet.
And like you said, I think that

701
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,560
I think a lot of people, like
some Baza was another person who

702
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160
shared this, right?
Like, yeah, you go the first

703
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,560
time and it is overwhelming and
you don't know what to expect.

704
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,880
And once you get over that hump,
though, first of all, by the end

705
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,240
of the conference, I think you
probably feel a lot different

706
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,560
than the start.
But then once you just start

707
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,520
going back for the second, the
third time, it gets much easier.

708
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,160
And as we keep saying here, it
does feel like family.

709
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,480
So I I would say the same thing.
Get a jump over the fence and

710
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,200
come join.
And I think you'll get a lot out

711
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200
of these conferences.
Absolutely.

712
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,640
Let me go to Christina.
Christina, also a buddy at Pod

713
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Fest of mine, hung out a lot.
Me and her and Jason and Rich

714
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,160
and Karen, and we had a little
crew of our own that we hung out

715
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,160
with.
Shay was part of that as well.

716
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,600
Christina, good morning to you.
Would you be open to sharing any

717
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,920
of your experience?
Maybe a memorable moment or

718
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,360
something maybe that surprised
you when you were at Pod Fest?

719
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Thank you for that and good
morning.

720
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Yes, Oh my goodness, this being
Pod fest #2 just blew my mind.

721
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,600
And I have to second everything
that you just spoke about

722
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:25,040
because December 2020 fifth and
Powered Podcasting meet up in

723
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,920
Rockville and I'd never stepped
away from my screen before.

724
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,800
It's 10 minutes from my house.
I have to do this.

725
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,440
I have to go meet some people
because, well, I'm a podcaster

726
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,680
now.
And you, Jonnade, Adam Bird met

727
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,640
the three of you.
And I said, what is this pod

728
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,760
fest thing?
What can you tell me about it?

729
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,080
And you all said you have to go,
followed by your words, Mark of

730
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,640
saying you're going to meet the
most friendly people in the

731
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,720
room.
You're going to be welcomed with

732
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:57,880
new friends.
And I'm like, OK, I'm going to

733
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,160
try this thing out.
And I went and I had no idea

734
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,920
that I was already walking in
with friends from the A-Team.

735
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,200
And.
Just like, wow, I felt

736
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,960
celebrated and just, you know,
I've told you this before and

737
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,080
anybody I share and point at
Mark, I'm going, he's the guy.

738
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,760
He's the man.
You have to know Mark, not only

739
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,360
he's the incredible podcaster,
he's a friendly guy and

740
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,440
encouraging.
And it's the reason I walked in

741
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,760
the door.
And I remember speaking it to

742
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160
you last year and saying, thank
you, I'm here.

743
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,400
And then coming back this year,
seeing my own own trajectory

744
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,400
over the last year and meeting
new faces.

745
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,200
I had a little bit of agenda of
going, OK, now I know what this

746
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,720
thing's about and I have new
friends to make this time

747
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,600
around.
And it was just an incredible

748
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,000
experience.
And I'm just floating from all

749
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,680
of this.
It's just so good.

750
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,320
And one of my pieces of advice,
Use that app, get to meet

751
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,680
people, set those meetups
because I set up a meet up and I

752
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,280
had 62 people reserved for my
visibility meet up.

753
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,240
Wow.
Incredible.

754
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,320
That's awesome.
I'm so glad that you decided to

755
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,840
do it, Christina.
And yeah, another.

756
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,400
She's another example of
somebody who took the plunge,

757
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,200
decided to give it a try, and
now is reaping a lot of the

758
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,400
benefits of doing so.
So kudos to you, Christine.

759
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
I'm so glad you were there.
Thank you, Mark.

760
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,960
Thank you.
You're welcome.

761
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,800
Does anyone from the team, the
PMC team have any questions for

762
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,080
either in any individuals here
on stage or for all of us?

763
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,440
Yeah, Sid, go for it.
Good morning again.

764
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,040
I love hearing all of.
The E takeaways.

765
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,440
But like, what's an area for
improvement that could be

766
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,120
besides moving it from Orlando
to someplace else?

767
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,440
What's an area?
For.

768
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,800
Improvement that we could take
away, Mark, if you're planning

769
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,040
or just in general like what
could they have done different

770
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,600
or better?
I added this in my feedback when

771
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,800
podcast said hey you know fill
out the the feedback form.

772
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,480
The thing is, I don't know how
necessarily.

773
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,200
To do it there.
Were a couple presenters that

774
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,920
their title didn't necessarily
align with what they were saying

775
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,280
on stage or maybe fell?
Short.

776
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,000
Of delivering the value that
some of the attendees were

777
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,320
hoping for.
And I saw that in in 2

778
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,400
presentations and excuse me,
sorry.

779
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,040
Someone else who's caught the
pod fest bug, yes, yeah.

780
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,280
Maybe that was the maybe that
was why I was snoring, because I

781
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,840
was all suggested being an MC
for multiple sessions and having

782
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,360
people come to me to express
that frustration.

783
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,640
I felt it was my duty to put
that in the feedback form.

784
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,960
And I don't know how necessarily
to vet some of the speakers,

785
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,800
especially if they're a first
time speaker, you know, without

786
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,440
creating more of a workload,
like, hey, can you send us a

787
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,720
video of yourself on stage at
another event or something along

788
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:03,360
those lines?
I don't know how the easiest way

789
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:10,000
to remedy that solution is, but
I do know that there were a few

790
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,360
attendees that expressed that
frustration that they felt that

791
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,360
the presenter didn't deliver
properly.

792
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,520
And being the emcee, I saw it
like I there were two

793
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,120
presentations I can think of
where I was like, you know,

794
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,880
what's this cat talking about?
Like what, what's going on up

795
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,480
there on stage?
You know what I'm saying, better

796
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,080
way of vetting people.
That might be something to look

797
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,400
forward, look to, and that might
be something that we include

798
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,120
with EPC, like especially if
it's a newer presenter that

799
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,560
isn't part of the community that
people can vouch for.

800
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,240
I heard some of that as well,
Rich.

801
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,800
And I mean, a lot of the talks I
sat in, maybe it's because I

802
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,920
made it a point to sit in a lot
of talks of the people that I

803
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,920
already know.
But all the talks I sat in,

804
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,400
people delivered what they said
they would.

805
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,960
But I did hear that same
feedback that you're sharing.

806
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,200
And actually I'll share.
I had a conversation actually

807
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,920
about that with Chris on the
last night at Podfest when

808
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,040
everyone does cigar club outside
at the end of the night and they

809
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,120
all do it till the wee hours of
the morning.

810
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,920
But yeah, Chris and I talked
about that.

811
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,880
And that is something I think
Podfest is very aware of.

812
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,480
I think they want to do an even
better job of vetting the

813
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,720
different speakers.
And I think that's something

814
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,800
that he's even asked me to be a
part of going into next year to

815
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,920
help keep, to help improve the
speakers.

816
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Not that there were, they were
all bad, but there were

817
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,040
certainly some that I think
maybe slipped through the cracks

818
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,000
and they want to they want to
avoid that moving forward.

819
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,840
Anyone else have anything they
want to share about their Pod

820
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,840
Fest experience?
And maybe Jason, maybe let me go

821
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,080
to you before I change the
subject or wrap up, depending

822
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,960
how much time we take.
But Jason, you were a big part

823
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,640
this past year at Empowered
Podcasting, vetting the

824
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,560
different speakers.
And I know that me, you, and

825
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,200
Rich all weighed in on that, but
you really LED that charge.

826
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,920
A, did you feel the same as Rich
did?

827
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:18,000
And B, did you feel that the way
that you helped find empowered

828
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,800
podcasting speakers, do you
think that there could be

829
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,880
something that you did that Pod
fest could apply?

830
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,880
I did experience that in a
couple of the presentations that

831
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,680
I went to as well.
And what I discovered really for

832
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,320
me that it was more of the ones
that I wasn't intentional with.

833
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,040
There were ones that.
Okay, yeah, I'm, I'm wandering

834
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,320
the halls and then seeing
something.

835
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,200
OK, I'm going to wander in here
and see what happens.

836
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,560
And that was just like, OK, This
is why I didn't write this one

837
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,280
down because this person is not
talking about what they said

838
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,960
they were going to talk about.
But anybody that I was

839
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,880
intentional that I knew
personally or they told me, hey,

840
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,440
I'm going to be talking about
this, I would go to that and

841
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,360
that's what I got.
So I would probably say on the

842
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,600
larger scale, it was, it was
delivered.

843
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,400
What was going, what they said
they were going to deliver.

844
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,800
I think from a vetting
perspective, it's so hard to

845
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,920
compare because we're so much
smaller.

846
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,560
I mean, you think like what I
what I was looking for, our

847
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,680
lineup for EPC two, what we did
over the course of a weekend is

848
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,960
what they're doing before lunch,
you know, because and, and then

849
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,280
multiply that by three because
they've got three days worth to

850
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,920
fill.
So I think that, you know, I'll,

851
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,840
I'll make reference to my
feeling a little bit snubbed

852
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,800
about not getting chosen to
speak.

853
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,520
However, now learning that it's
probably because I never really

854
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,480
took the time to attend Now that
I have, I'm hoping that that's

855
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,480
going to be remedied.
But I would say that there's

856
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:57,040
probably so many entries to
choose from.

857
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,200
I think I somebody had told me,
or I heard it in passing that

858
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,120
they received over 1000 requests
or 1000 submissions.

859
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,600
I think it was like 6 to 700 and
it was a record for speaker

860
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,920
submissions at Pod Fest.
That's a lot to go through.

861
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,040
I remember I, like I said, like
the first, the very first, I

862
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,160
know I told somebody I was
talking to this week and the

863
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:22,520
very first night that I sat down
to go through our list of all

864
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,120
the submissions, we got lit a
cigar, poured a glass of bourbon

865
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,120
and just come through each one
one by one.

866
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,720
And that was I was able to get
that done in an evening.

867
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,280
That's probably not something
that they were able to do in

868
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,000
this just from the sheer
quantity.

869
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,880
So I think it's going to be just
one of the unfortunate

870
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,000
happenings of that process.
It's some things are going to

871
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,560
slip through the cracks.
Of course, you want people to

872
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,960
deliver on what they're saying
they're going to bring to the

873
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,280
stage, but it's probably hard to
get a 100% quality check in

874
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,920
place.
So I think I know one thing

875
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,040
we're talking about and we'll
get into this more as we get

876
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,760
into our serious planning in the
upcoming weeks of doing video

877
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,600
submissions.
And I know Rich just made a

878
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,600
mention to that.
It's got some merit to it.

879
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,120
You can hear a little bit about
what's going to actually be

880
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:23,680
said.
And you know, I still, I still

881
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,840
wonder even if, you know, the
weighing the pros and cons of

882
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,520
that, I wonder if some people
would still say, yeah, I'm going

883
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,720
to talk about this and that.
But then when they get on stage,

884
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,320
they go a different path.
Hopefully it's something that we

885
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,480
can manage and keep it as above
board as possible.

886
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,720
But overall, I think it's going
to be and I just like I said,

887
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,720
when you project it out to that
grand scale of speakers, they

888
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:49,040
have to try to choose, it's
probably going to be hard to

889
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,640
catch everybody and and get the
mother age.

890
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:53,960
Back.
Thank you, Jason.

891
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,360
All right, listen close to
wrapping up here, I want to

892
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,960
share just a couple of things.
One is I do want to share that,

893
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,600
you know, Alex has shared this
before when he spoke on the

894
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,480
Petcha Cucha stage at Pod Fest,
the five minute presentations

895
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,600
that goes on all the first day,
or at least a big chunk of the

896
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,520
first day.
I've got to just echo the fact

897
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,320
that that's got to be, in my
opinion, I think harder to do

898
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,160
those than to do a 30 minute
presentation.

899
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,200
It is the pressure to do
something like that, have a

900
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,600
whole and, and here's the real
thing that I think would

901
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:38,440
completely throw me off is the
fact that the slides are just

902
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,160
rotating.
You don't have a clicker, you

903
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,040
can't Click to the next slide.
You just have to make sure you

904
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,040
say everything you're supposed
to say regarding that first

905
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,040
slide before the second one pops
up.

906
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:55,800
And I that would drive me nuts.
So I applaud every single one of

907
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,360
those Pechacucha speakers and I
hope that those that some of

908
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,160
those speakers are hearing me,
the ones that maybe think I just

909
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,800
got a 5 minute presentation.
No, you got the hardest kind of

910
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,760
presentation and you did it and
I applaud you for it.

911
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,960
I don't think I ever want to do
a Petcha Cucha talk.

912
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,760
Ever.
That was a lot of fun.

913
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,880
It was like on ice skates with
ice.

914
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,720
Well, that would make sense.
No, I'm sorry, roller skates on

915
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:26,560
ice.
Oh, there it is.

916
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,000
OK, I was saying a few things,
but anyway.

917
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:31,320
Yeah, it I was just super
impressed.

918
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,680
And I'll just share a final
moment that really hit me

919
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,600
personally.
You know, look, I went into Pod

920
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,840
Fest with one of the intentions
to make a lot of contacts and

921
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,880
quite frankly, hoping that I'd
come away with new clients.

922
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,040
You know, Clancy and I and and
her husband, Rick, we started

923
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,000
working together as a direct
result from Podfest.

924
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,720
We sat down and did our
discovery call, quote, UN quote,

925
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,560
at Podfest last year, and now
we've been working together ever

926
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,160
since.
And so, yeah, I want to create

927
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,040
those kinds of relationships,
have those kinds of clients that

928
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,000
I can really have a personal
connection with right out of the

929
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,480
gate.
There's something special about

930
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,240
that.
And I'll say that I didn't have

931
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:18,320
any big moments like that.
I have, I'll say, some warm

932
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,800
leads, but I'm not disappointed
because I recognized that this

933
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,520
experience for me at Pod Fest
was more for me.

934
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:33,440
It was more about me
acknowledging and embracing my

935
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,080
worth in this industry and in
that community.

936
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,880
The fact that I went from really
never feeling like I belonged

937
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,160
there to now feeling like one of
the faces.

938
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:51,080
It's a little bit of a mind
blowing experience and specific

939
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:56,200
to my talk I shared, which you
guys know I am very open, maybe

940
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:01,280
maybe too much when I talk about
my ADHD, just meaning I know I

941
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,080
talk a lot about it and I did
that at my presentation to open.

942
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,640
I've acknowledged first that
Podfest can be overwhelming

943
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,920
because of all the choices.
And I shared with this ADHD

944
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,520
brain, I acknowledge that I,
I've experienced that

945
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,240
overwhelmed first hand and I
shared that yeah, this and I, I

946
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:23,880
just put it out there.
I've got these note cards here

947
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,160
to help me stay on track because
I know my, that the ADHD will

948
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,000
will probably get the best of me
at some point.

949
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,560
I'm sharing this with you
because later, I think the next

950
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,400
day, I was walking the hallways,
I think heading into another

951
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,680
talk and there was a volunteer
standing at the doorway that was

952
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,560
greeting people that to, you
know, let people in.

953
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:51,240
And she stopped me and said, you
did the talk on community,

954
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:53,000
right?
You know, she gave me

955
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,840
compliments about the talk
itself.

956
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,520
And then she started focusing on
the ADHD and she said, I really

957
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,640
want to thank you for being
vulnerable, for sharing that you

958
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,640
experienced ADHD and you got on
that stage anyway.

959
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,760
And you delivered a fantastic
presentation.

960
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,440
And I'm not saying that to get
kudos again about my

961
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,600
presentation.
My point is, well, her point was

962
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,440
I gave her permission to do
this.

963
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,840
She said I've been coming to
Podfest, I want to speak and

964
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,440
I've not applied to do so
because I'm terrified that my

965
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,840
ADHD is going to get the best of
me and I feel like I'm not

966
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,120
capable.
And you up there gave me

967
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,520
permission to do that.
That was a huge moment for for

968
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,600
me that honestly felt bigger to
me than landing my next client.

969
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,520
It's amazing how when you're
authentic, when you just share

970
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,840
who you are and
unapologetically, it's amazing

971
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,480
how you can touch people.
It's amazing how people can then

972
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,120
see themselves in you.
So whether you want to be on a

973
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,760
physical stage or a stronger
podcaster, just embrace who you

974
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,440
are unapologetically unashamed.
That was a huge take away from

975
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:18,760
for me, and I just can't thank
Podfest enough for all that they

976
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,800
did.
They certainly inspired Jason

977
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,640
and Rich and I Jason and Rich, a
part of the executive team now

978
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,520
of Empowered Podcasting.
They gave us a lot of things to

979
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,400
think about for the next event
in August.

980
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,560
And by the way, if you want
tickets to that, go to

981
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,880
empoweredpodcasting.com.
Hey, Mark.

982
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,040
Yes.
Should we mention the podcast

983
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,680
special?
The Pod Fest.

984
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,440
Special.
Yeah, absolutely.

985
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,640
Will you share?
I'd love to.

986
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,000
So we this is, it's funny how
things work out.

987
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,720
We were trying to come up with a
special that we can offer to

988
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:01,640
folks that we ran into at Pod
Fest if they'd like to attend

989
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,840
EPC 3, get a jump on the
tickets.

990
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,400
And we wanted to do something
that would not be as low as the

991
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,840
offer that we gave to our
community for attending our

992
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,760
event back on the holiday
season, but still be

993
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,240
significant.
And when we did the discount

994
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,920
code, it came out $25 was just a
touch over 200.

995
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,240
Once you had the fees, we dialed
it back to 26 and it made it

996
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,800
$199.96.
So we can officially say if you

997
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:41,360
take advantage using the code
Podfest 26 from now until I

998
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,600
think we were going to do it
till Thursday, I can't remember

999
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,920
the exact day, but do it now.
Get it this week.

1000
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,520
Get it this week, it will be the
last time that the ticket for

1001
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,400
EPC 3 August 21st through 23rd
is under $200.

1002
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,000
Thank you, Jason.
And I'm going to make sure we

1003
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,920
put the correct coupon code
because I'm not sure.

1004
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,000
I just want.
I'm not.

1005
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,560
Is that and are you certain that
that's the code?

1006
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,360
I am very sure.
All right then, there you go.

1007
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,560
We'll make sure to put that code
in the show notes for you as

1008
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,560
well if you want to be a part of
the Empowered Podcasting

1009
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,640
conference coming the weekend of
August 21st.

1010
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Thank you all for sharing your
experiences at Podfest.

1011
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,320
Thank you to Podfest for putting
on such an amazing event.

1012
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,240
We are back tomorrow.
We're going to be covering all

1013
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,680
the headlines around the world
of podcasting, including some

1014
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:35,280
pod fest news, I'm sure.
But come join us and share.

1015
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,080
And if it's something that
you've got that's new to you

1016
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,960
that you want to share with us,
come bring that tomorrow too.

1017
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,520
Maybe it's a new tool, maybe
it's something you heard in the

1018
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,760
news.
We want to hear from you as

1019
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,120
well.
So come join us 7:00 AM Eastern

1020
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,280
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1021
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,800
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1022
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,280
So until tomorrow, make it a
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