368 - Remembering 9/11: What Podcasters Can Say When the World Pauses

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Good morning podcasting morning
chat.

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Today is Thursday, September
11th, 2025, and today we're

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asking what it means to hit
record on a day like 911.

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Exploring responsibilities,
challenges and power of

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podcasting during moments of
reflection.

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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Morning chat.
Thank you for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronick and
on stage currently with me my Co

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host, we have Nick Naul back,
Alex Baelish, Dr. Fay and Sid

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Meadows.
After this little rocky start of

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ours today we are going to dig
into this was kind of a last

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minute audible.
I it's been on my mind since

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yesterday about talking about
911 and I wasn't sure how.

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And I've been brainstorming with
Dr. and Ashley this morning, and

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we're going to dig into it.
Before we get into today's

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conversation, I do want to just
briefly acknowledge the news

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that we heard yesterday about
Charlie Kirk's murder.

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And this is a really sensitive
and very raw situation.

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And because of that, we're not
discussing it further in this

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space.
Our focus here is podcasting.

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And today's discussion is going
to center around how podcasters

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acknowledge and reflect on
significant dates and events.

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And tragedies like 911 both in
the moment and years later.

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So we'll be looking at the role
podcasts can play in handling

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tragedy and remembrance with
care.

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And we are not discussing
yesterday because in my opinion,

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too raw, too sensitive right now
and not the right space for it

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here.
So with that, as I said this

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morning, Dr. Ashley and I were
talking a little bit about

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different directions to go and
if there's time we will get into

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some more podcast related, well,
some more podcast related stuff

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like we normally would do.
But I don't think it's going to

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fit well.
And I think we will have a good

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conversation around this.
One of the difficulties we were

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acknowledging is that it can be
a really sensitive discussion.

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And we're a show, like I said a
moment ago about podcasting, and

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sometimes it might feel either
inappropriate as podcasters to

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talk about a topic that's not on
point with what we normally

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discuss.
Other times the topic, and I'll

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just say it is very sensitive
and it creates a lot of emotion.

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It triggers us.
And Dr. was acknowledging this

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is going to be a challenging 1
for me.

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So I acknowledge that too.
And I think it that this is an

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area for us to explore because I
feel as a podcaster and as I sit

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with my community here, I feel
this obligation, this

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responsibility and this desire
to talk about it while at the

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same time I feel this struggle
of but it's not really about

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podcasting.
So am I going to turn my

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audience away?
But I think when we are talking

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about something as big as 911,
it's something that affects all

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of us.
And I think it's worth figuring

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out how we as podcasters can
take the time to talk about

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things like that.
So look, I know that this will

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probably spark your emotions.
It may sparks a story.

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You want to share about 911 in
some way how it affected you,

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and I think that's OK.
I think we can explore that.

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And I want us to try to take
this from a little more broad of

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an angle.
Just how do we deal with these

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things as podcasters?
For example, let's start with

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this.
Should podcasters acknowledge

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these significant dates,
tragedies, huge events,

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sensitive events?
Or is it better to just stick to

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business as usual?
Should I, for example, have just

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come on today, maybe
acknowledged 9/11, but then got

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into the main topic which what
we had prepared for were putting

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it simply tips for launching a
new podcast.

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So what do you think?
Let's start there I.

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Just think it depends on what
your podcast is about and also

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depends on what you feel.
I'm not going to be talking too

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much about 911 on a what is from
Pet cast, but.

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Let me stop you there, Alex.
Why wouldn't you?

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The format doesn't really lend
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It's a horror show, so it's not
really appropriate.

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If you're recording and it's
during that day, that's fine,

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but in terms of recording about
it, I think it's important.

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I'm a little biased because I'm
in Northeast and that was my

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life for three years because I
worked for the Red Cross and I

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worked with families, I did all
that other kind of stuff.

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But I think everybody's affected
in different ways with events.

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I just know with 911 more
specifically, at least for me,

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and again, this is a lot of
different people because there's

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people all over the world that
are dealing with the same thing.

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I don't know, it just seems like
everything is fine until about

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September 3rd or 4th and then
you start seeing stuff and like

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today you get thrown back into
it like you was it was yesterday

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and then you move on.
But I really understand how the

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people that were involved when
we were kids felt about Pearl

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Harbor and the whole Greatest
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no perspective compared to it is
so important.

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Like, you know, 24 years ago, I
was in a different place.

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I wasn't married, I don't have a
kid.

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I mean, there's a whole
generation of kids that don't

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even know what it's all about.
And, and I, and I and I think

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that that's important to not
celebrate it, but understand

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what it was about.
So that people can have that,

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and I think podcasting does a
great job.

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We talk about this a lot about
crop capturing people's stories,

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you understand?
I think that's why podcasting

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can be so powerful and it can
make a difference.

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Thank you, Alex.
And you said something there.

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When the day comes like today,
911, even 24 years later, you

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feel like you're thrown right
back into it.

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And I think that's relatable.
I think a lot of people probably

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feel that way.
And that's why I lean toward

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saying it's OK to break format
on your podcast if you feel

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compelled to talk about an event
like this because I think it is

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so relatable.
Yes, Sid, I've been actually

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secretly waiting for you to
chime in on this.

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Go ahead, Sid.
Good morning.

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Good morning, everybody.
Like a lot of people have a lot

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of thoughts rambling in my head
today with the events of

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yesterday, because there were
multiple events yesterday and

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then the honoring of what today
is right.

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And if I had to answer your
question directly, Mark, if I

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had a show that was launching or
airing on September 11th, I

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would start my show off
acknowledging September 11th.

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And what this day means.
If I have a show that launches

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on Monday and September 11th is
on Thursday, I would not address

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it.
I would not, I would not

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acknowledge it, right?
I would also, this is just me,

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but I would not be someone to do
an entire show about September

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11th because of I don't think
it's appropriate for my show.

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I don't think it's, I don't
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I just, I just don't think I
would do that right.

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And yesterday my team and I were
having this discussion about

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what do we post today on social
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Because you're, we log on to
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you're going to see pictures of
the towers and videos and

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symbols and sayings of never
forget, always remember those

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kinds of things, right?
And I didn't want to post that.

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I didn't want to post that.
I didn't want to post what other

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people were posting because we
see the same thing over and over

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again.
And I think what's important

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about this time is reflection
and gratitude.

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And there is one thing, I mean,
the world, I've said this many,

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many times, the world is a shit
show right now.

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If there's one thing that we can
really do is relative to

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September 11th is draw on what
happened after and how the

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country and the world came
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And that is what we need now
more than anything is to come

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together to solve our problems,
to prevent these crises from

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happening, to prevent another
September 11th.

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That's what we need.
We don't need fighting.

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We don't need finger pointing.
We need reflection and gratitude

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and hope.
And so that was the message that

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we chose to share today on our
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reflection and being grateful
and encouraging people to take a

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step forward and to do something
kind for someone.

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Today, in honor of all those
people that lost their lives, in

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honor of the chaos and in honor
of how the world came together

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the afternoon of September 11th,
September 12th, and so on.

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For so long we were united.
What will unite us again today

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is hope and gratitude and love,
and that's what we chose to

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share today.
And that would be the message

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that I will carry for my family
with my children, is a message

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of hope and gratitude and
reflecting on all the good that

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can happen when we come together
as a community.

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Thank you, Sid.
And I see some people were

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acknowledging.
Yeah, Bez was acknowledging in

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the chat their Amen to that.
I'm with you there.

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Well said.
And I like what you were also

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saying about how, OK, if your
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then yes, you would acknowledge
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And, you know, that's
essentially what I'm doing here

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today.
And I think I agree with you.

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If, you know, we were, let's
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didn't fall on 9/11, I don't
know that I would have even

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acknowledged it on that week.
And here we are.

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It's 911 on a Daily Show.
So yeah, I felt obligated.

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And do you think, do you think
we shouldn't have dedicated a

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whole show to this topic?
Or do you think, well, I'll just

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leave it there?
I think it's it is relevant

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because especially as podcasts,
podcasters, content creators,

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there is like a feeling of
obligation.

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And I think that is where this
kind of conversation should go

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next.
It's one thing if if you feel

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impacted and feel compelled to
dedicate a segment or dedicated

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episode to the topic, what are
you obligated to?

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Because it can feel like that.
Just think as I've been creating

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content, different events that
come up and I almost feel like

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do I need to post something
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Because everyone else is posting
about this.

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If I don't post about this, does
that come off that I'm

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insensitive to the topic?
I think that this is all

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relevant to podcasters and
greater because this.

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This is.
These are thoughts people are

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going to have.
I'm with you there, Nick.

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I appreciate that.
And by the way, who here is

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going to say it?
Nick needs a new headset.

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Nick's headset constantly I feel
like cuts in and out.

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I need a new Internet
connection.

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I acknowledge that.
I think Nick needs a new

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Bluetooth headset.
Yeah, I think we should.

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I think we should.
Did you have something?

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So, Nick, you're not wrong at
all, right?

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And do you have to share
something about September 11th

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today?
No, you don't.

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You don't have to.
There's nothing that says

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anybody has to share anything
relative to that day.

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You can remember that day the
way that you want to remember

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that day.
You can honor the people the way

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you want to honor the people
that day.

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You don't have to say anything,
right?

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And I don't think that anybody
is reflected poorly upon for not

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saying it or not acknowledging
it, right?

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I just think you have to do it
in your own way.

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But, but I do believe as
podcasters, we have a voice and

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it's important for us in our
platforms, whether it's the

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written voice or what we do in
podcasting, regardless of the

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cadence of your show, right, is
to use our voice for good and

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use our voice to move things
forward.

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I'm OK with challenging people
and challenging the status quo

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in a way that creates
conversation and not, you know,

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anger or not necessarily
discontent where I no longer

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talk to you, Mark, because you
don't agree with me, right?

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I think it's incumbent upon us
to use our voice for good and

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to, you know, give.
We've been, this is a gift we've

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been given and let's use it for
the betterment of people and

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things.
And Mark, you're not wrong by

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acknowledging this today, right?
You could have done it both

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ways.
You could have taken a moment at

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the beginning of the show and
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silence, or you could have done
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show.
You're none of those are wrong,

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right?
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in here and to start the show
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on September 11th, to not
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that I do believe is wrong.
So yes, honoring it, talking

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about it, whether it's, you
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minutes, or for a whole hour,
none of those are wrong.

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it.
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I'll say it again, as
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us to use our voice for good,
especially on days like today.

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Thanks, Sid.
And you know, I from working

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with a lot of new podcasters
over my career, I think the

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reason why I ask, is it quote UN
quote wrong for or just to play

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off of your words?
I bring that up because I think

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a lot of times newer podcasters
take a lot of the advice very

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literally that we or others
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In other words, I think a new
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I'd like to talk about it, I'd
like to acknowledge it.

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But it's not speaking to my
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It's not the topic, It's not the
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to my audience.
And so am I.

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And this thought did go even go
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Am I doing a disservice?
Am I turning away my audience if

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I dedicate this whole hour today
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There's two ways you can know,
we could talk all about 911 and

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our experiences, or you can take
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which is how do you acknowledge
a big event or what do you

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acknowledge is a big event?
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value is because there's always

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going to be some important story
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address.
It's about giving people the

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tools to know how to do these
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it's about telling stories.
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out.
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this is how do you deal with an
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That's all it's about.
We're still talking about

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Mike's.
We're still talking about all

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this other stuff.
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Because if you don't have all
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And we always talk about good
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How do we make good content out
of something that's that

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important?
And I'm not bringing it up in

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the sense of talking about it.
But I asked the question about

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the tragedy of of Charlie Kirk.
I don't really care about the

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guy either way.
I wasn't talking about an

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opinion, but he was a big
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Do you want to address it?
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And then we moved on.
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I'm not here to talk about that.
I'm just saying things do

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happen.
How are you going to acknowledge

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it?
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going to make it affected for
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So I, I, I think that's why it's
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And if you have a personal stake
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more about it.
If you don't like Nick, that's

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fine too.
I'm the same lines as said.

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There's some years where I don't
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It's like it can the day just be
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I don't put anything on.
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I'm like all into it in terms of
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Yeah, thank you, Alex.
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media one way and anybody is
also welcome to share what I'm

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about to share about what Alex
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He shared on social media he has
his iPhone alarms set for every

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time something occurred on 9/11,
some major, you know, whether it

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was the towers hit, whether it
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Pennsylvania, etcetera,
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He has those alarms set on his
phone to help him remember and

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acknowledge the day.
And if you want to share how you

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do that too, like let's also
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using it as an example of how do
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do we deal with them.
So thank you for sharing, Alex,

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I appreciate it.
But I am curious, do you think

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podcasts can serve as a kind of
oral history for future

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generations?
What is this is part of that

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responsibility thing?
How can we use our podcast to

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serve as that oral history?
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there are some people out there
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never went through 911.
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think feel like we want those
that are around today to that

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didn't get to understand its
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We want to try to help them
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And I think that there's
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This is, I think what I wanted
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Let me think, get it through my
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Just this is something Sid was
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day brought us all together for
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Was really powerful and on days
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things going on, putting it
lightly, it felt like we were

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just so apart.
So I think as podcasters, if

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we're creating this history,
these historical podcasts, I

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think that that that's part of
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obligation, I think as a
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And I think going off script,
going off topic is OK.

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And I know Austin said here in
the chat, he acknowledged it.

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Let me find what you said,
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It could be considered off brand
for some folks to acknowledge or

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abstain.
But it's your show.

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And I think that's the beauty of
especially being an independent

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podcaster as we can do whatever
the F we want.

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Let's check in with Ashley and
then we'll go to Sid since we

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haven't talked to Ashley out
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Good morning to you, Ashley.
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Morning.
I just wanted to comment on the

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whole oral history thing.
Podcasters can present oral

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history by making their show
like a documentary.

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That's the whole reason I
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It was born of a natural
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The town I live in, Panama City,
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hurricane.
And then I actually started the

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show in 2020 during COVID.
On that show, we documented the

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recovery and the collective
grieving from Hurricane Michael

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because we were all going
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Everyone had lost pretty much
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And then we were also going
through that collective grief

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from COVID.
So I think by having a show that

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honestly and, you know,
respectfully documents what

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happened and featuring people
that can share their grief and

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share their story will help them
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And also, like you said before,
remind people who may not have

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been around during that time,
you know what happened during

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that time in the oral history.
Thank you, Ashley, and great

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example.
I'm, I'm glad we have you here

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because, yeah, it fits this
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Natural disaster, any disaster.
That's really helpful.

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Thank you.
Ashley and Sid, you had

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something right.
In any industry, in any whatever

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genre if you will, or niche your
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something happening.
And a couple of weeks ago there

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was a huge acquisition inside
the furniture industry.

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And I'll tie this to just a
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I'll tie this together just a
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But you know, it's a big news
like all over the place that the

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number one manufacturer in the
world had been purchased by

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someone else.
And like, it's really big news.

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And everybody that's pinging me,
are we going to talk about it?

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What do you what are your
thoughts on it and list?

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I can talk about conspiracy
theories all day long because I

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think it's kind of fun, but you
know what's going to happen?

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But but I chose to stay silent
and I wanted our company to stay

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silent.
And the reason I wanted our

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company to say a reason I chose
and I wanted us as an

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organization to stay quiet was
so that we could gather our

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thoughts, so we could really
think about what the impact of

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this is.
And the better way to say that

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is so that we could respond
thoughtfully rather than react.

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What you're going to see today
is a whole by yesterday is a

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whole bunch of immediate
reactions to things that are not

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good for anybody.
They're not good for the person

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saying it.
They're not good for the people

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consuming it, right?
And so I think it's incumbent

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upon us when some big event is
happens in your world, whether

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it's something like 911 or
something like the hurricane

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Ashley mentioned or an
acquisition that, you know,

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shocked our industry is to sit
back and reflect on it and then

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to respond to it rather than
react to it.

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Because if we use our voice to
respond, whether it's positive

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or negatively, it can have a
very big impact on you as a

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content creator.
So I think it's important to

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pause, reflect, and respond.
Thanks, Sid.

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I think that you're doing a

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great job of deciphering between
when a tragedy first occurs or

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an event, let's call it, because
to some, an event may not be a

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tragedy, to others it is.
So I just want to acknowledge

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that.
But I think you're doing a great

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job of deciphering between when
something is fresh versus what

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we're talking about, you know,
with 911 being 24 years old at

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this point.
And I do think there's a lot of

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wisdom in that.
I think that it is also our

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responsibility as podcasters to,
as you said, pause and reflect

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before we react, before we
decide to put out that content.

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There is a saying that I'll
butcher, but you know, it's,

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it's something along the lines
of when we are publicly sharing

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something, we do it from a place
of healing, not from a place of

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a fresh wound.
We've got to allow the wound to

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heal first before again, just if
as podcasters and if it's our

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responsibility, then I think we
need to take that time.

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I think it's helpful for us to
take that time to pause and

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reflect.
OK, I'm going to ask you all to

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help me here because I do want
at some point when we wrap up, I

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do want to take a minute to
reflect with a moment of silence

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for 911 and those that we lost,
those that were affected.

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And I'm curious, how do you feel
about do we wrap up a little

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early today in honor of 911 or
does it feel inappropriate to

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switch gears and get into into
podcasting now?

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Right.
Like let's make this a case

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study, a real life, real time
case study.

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Where do we go from here?
I have no problem shifting

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gears.
Like I said, I'm on both sides

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of the fence.
I know Ashley said that she it

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was charring, but I think you
can still be talking about

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podcasting in the sense of what
we're doing.

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But you know, Greg in the chat
says doesn't want to shift

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gears.
And these are the things to

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think about, right?
But if we're going to do these

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kinds of things that these are
the things that I think you plan

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ahead.
And no, I didn't plan ahead,

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right?
But I also, again, this was a

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moment of inspiration and I
really felt like it's an

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opportunity for us to discuss.
Go ahead.

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Maybe not shifting gears, but to
keeping it back on to

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podcasting.
And again, I keep going back to

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Sid because he has great
perspective.

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You know, he said that you need
to take a, you need to take a

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hot second.
How do you want to use your

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platform?
I think the biggest problem

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today versus, and I'm not
talking about today as in 911,

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but as in content creators,
people don't want to take a

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breath like you said, because
they want instant reaction.

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And I hate to use this term, but
the adults in the room,

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sometimes you need to take that
breath, but also not planning it

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out, Mark.
Is a is.

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Fine too.
There's some podcasters in this

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room that have the ability to do
an instant reaction.

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There's other podcasters that
just don't.

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And I'm not just talking social
media.

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They could put out a podcast
because they do daily.

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Podcasts every day.
How is that process going on and

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how do you handle something like
like this?

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So I know Sid how it is, Yeah.
And.

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Well, let's check in.
Thank you, Alex.

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Let's check in with Sid.
Go ahead, Sid.

453
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Oh.
My gosh, I don't think it's

454
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appropriate to switch gears,
Mark, I'll say that much.

455
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,960
I agree with some of the things
in the chat.

456
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I don't think it's, I think it's
more appropriate to end the

457
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,160
show, right?
And so I'll tee you up if that's

458
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what you want to do, right?
And I'll go back to something I

459
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said just a few minutes ago.
There so many feelings and

460
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,040
emotions that people have today
around the multiple events

461
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,360
yesterday around today being
September 11th.

462
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And I hadn't talked about it
until this morning other than

463
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,880
talking to my daughter about it
last night and helping my

464
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,640
daughter understand how to deal
with some of the feelings she

465
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,280
had around all of this, right?
But my encouragement to you

466
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,720
would be, I've said this 1000
times and I'll keep saying it.

467
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,760
Use your voice for good today,
Sarah.

468
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,200
A message of hope today.
Do something kind for someone.

469
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,880
Share a minute of gratitude for
someone today.

470
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600
I'm grateful for all of you in
this room.

471
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,240
I'm grateful for this platform.
I'm grateful for the ability to

472
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,680
come in here and hang out with
you every morning while I enjoy

473
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240
my coffee and get ready to start
my morning walk right.

474
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,920
Change the narrative today.
Change the narrative from being

475
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,040
angry and bad and sad to
something being good to

476
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,280
something being positive.
Use your voice in that way today

477
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,760
to make a difference.
Each and every one of us have

478
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,960
the opportunity and the gift and
I will even say the

479
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,480
responsibility to help change
the world.

480
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,960
And we can do that by sharing
good.

481
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,000
I will always use my platform
for goodness and kindness and

482
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960
joy.
Always, always.

483
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,120
I may say things on my show that
make people mad, but just like I

484
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,680
say in my show, if I made you
think today and you took action

485
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,000
based on what I said and it
changed the trajectory of your

486
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,600
business or your life, that I'm
doing my job as a podcaster

487
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,800
doesn't mean that I don't like
you or that I don't love you or

488
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,160
that I want to be in an
argument.

489
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,480
That's not what it means.
Means I'm trying to make you

490
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,760
think.
I'm trying to make you think

491
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,920
differently about something.
But today of all days, use your

492
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,360
voice and use your platform to
share good in the world, to

493
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,440
share positivity in the world.
And so again, I'm grateful for

494
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040
each and everyone of you and for
this opportunity to come in here

495
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,880
every morning to hang out with
you, to learn about podcasting,

496
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640
to learn about how to be better,
to learn how to grow.

497
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,400
So thank you, Mark, for this
platform and for what you do and

498
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,360
bringing us together like this.
And I look forward to seeing so

499
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,240
many of your smiling faces for
the first time ever at the end

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00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,320
of this month.
So with Mark, with that Mark,

501
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,800
I'll pass it back to you.
Thank you, Sid beautifully said.

502
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,480
I think that we will end early
today.

503
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,800
And I really want to echo what
Sid said.

504
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,480
Let's do something different
than what we're probably going

505
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,360
to see a lot of today.
And aside from the events that

506
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,080
have gone on this week, we're
still going to see probably a

507
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,560
lot of and a lot of sad posts
about 911 too, right?

508
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,560
And that's totally cool.
Like I'm not, I'm not knocking

509
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,920
that.
And I think it would be really

510
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:56,560
powerful if those of us here
tried to post something positive

511
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880
like Sid's talking about trying
to express, sharing some

512
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,440
gratitude, sharing some love,
sharing something positive

513
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,600
today.
I think it's so important to

514
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,280
balance out the sadness, the
negativity, etcetera.

515
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,720
I'm not saying don't post if you
haven't, if you feel obligated

516
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,200
to post something about 911.
And I think posting something

517
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,040
positive, posting that
gratitude, I think adds the

518
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200
balance that is so desperately
needed right now.

519
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,840
And I want to also acknowledge
that to your point said about

520
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,520
this community, about us all
getting together, this community

521
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,160
all, and I just said this
recently, this community always

522
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,800
proves to me that we can have
honest discussions and still get

523
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,360
along.
It gives me hope even in times

524
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,920
where it looks hopeless when
we're scrolling social media as

525
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520
an example.
I love that about this

526
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,320
community.
And I do believe if we were to

527
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,920
have a forum separate from here
talking about events from

528
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,040
yesterday, I think we would have
a passionate discussion and I

529
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,680
genuinely believe we would have
a respectful discussion.

530
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,160
And that's thanks to all of you.
So what I would like to do is

531
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:21,320
take one minute of silence for
9/11, for those that we lost,

532
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:28,320
for those that were affected,
which I imagine in some way most

533
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,440
of us here were affected.
Let's take a minute to honor

534
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:40,800
those that we lost, loved, cared
for, cared about, and again, for

535
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,120
those that were so affected.
We're going to take a moment

536
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,840
now.
We'll be back tomorrow at 7:00

537
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,040
AM Eastern and until then, make
it a great day.

538
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,520
Let's pause for 911 and those
affected and lost.

539
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,000
Make it a great day everybody,
take care.