343 - Remembering Malcolm-Jamal Warner, Substack’s $100M Leap, & Shark Tank for Indie Podcasters

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Good morning podcasting, morning
chat.

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Today is Wednesday, July 23rd,
2025 and today we're diving into

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podcast news from a caution on
double speed listening,

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remembering Malcolm Jamal
Warner's legacy to TV

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broadcasters scrambling as
podcasters steal the spotlight.

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So if you're listening live on
Clubhouse or Chatter, the share

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button, bottom side of the
screen on Clubhouse and top of

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the screen on Chatter, and if
you're listening to be a

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podcast, share this episode with
a fellow podcaster.

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And now give us about 30 seconds
and we'll get things rolling.

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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Morning Chat.
Thank you for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronic, and
currently on stage with me we

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have my Co hosts, Dr. Faye,
Ashley Feller and I should say

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as I normally do, producer
Ashley Feller, Amanda Sharp and

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over on the Chatter stage,
Jonathan Howard.

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Thank you all for being here.
This is day two of our simulcast

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to not only YouTube.
Oh, and Nick Naulback has just

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joined us as well.
Not only to YouTube, not only to

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Clubhouse, we're at Chatter as
well.

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So this is a big week for us and
a big week for me as I'm trying

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to wrap my ADHD brain around all
these moving parts.

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Bear with me, but I think we're
getting there.

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And I thought yesterday went
very smoothly overall.

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So thank you to all of you.
If it felt a little bit off,

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it'll get better, I promise, I
promise.

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So yeah, today for those of you
on Chatter today, what we do is

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we go through hand picked
headlines around the world of

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podcasting, social media,
anything that really affects us

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as podcasters, AI often times a
big area for us to discuss.

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And with that, I might as well
dive right in.

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So I like to start this some
podcast data as of yesterday,

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July 22nd, I like to share the
number one podcasts.

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So first Apple, the number one
podcast who took Misty Cope.

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See, I believe that's a true
crime podcast and that's new to

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the top of the chart, at least
as of lately.

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And also number one, of course,
on Spotify is the Joe Rogan

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Experience.
And as you may know, if you are

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a regular, I usually this is the
portion where I'll say over the

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last week, a certain number of
podcasts have published at least

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one new episode.
And I would get that from pod

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news, no secret.
I've shared that before.

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However, they've changed it
because of their recent

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partnership with Mopod.
Mopod kind of sponsoring their

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podcast data section and they
removed that from the list.

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But thanks to Dr. we did a
little investigative work and

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talked to James Gridland.
So Dr. you found or James told

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you where to find this?
Where do we find this?

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Right.
He said to go to the podcast,

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the journal thing that he, you
know, that he also does that he

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also owns.
And I said, well, we saw that,

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but we also saw an April date on
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So we weren't quite sure that it
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And he said, oh, good eye, hold
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And he came back, he said, OK,
it's it's up to date now.

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So he changed it just for us.
Nice.

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Yeah.
So everything on the rundown is

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current Is current, yeah.
OK, All right, cool.

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So what?
And you want to share any of

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those numbers?
Because I it was last minute and

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I didn't grab any.
It reports that there are

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4,608,987 podcasts in its
directory, with a total of

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144,090,357 podcast episodes.
Wow.

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OK, So a total podcast of total
podcasts updated in the last

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week are 181,213, which is up 8%
from last week, which was

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179,804.
Total podcast updated in the

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last 30 days is 332,770 which is
down 4.4% from last month.

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OK, New episodes in the last
week are 430,282 which is up

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4.5% from last week and the
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1 mil.
Let's see this is posted

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recently.
OK, 1,984,643 which is down 4.6%

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on the average.
Actually, dear, let me cut you

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off real quick just because I
what I am more interested in

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hearing is your top fives.
So I, I think we got plenty, we

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went, we, we got more than we
bargained for by getting this

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new information.
That's OK.

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And this comes from, again, this
comes from podcast index.

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Is that right?
It comes from his, the other one

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that you checked that you said
it's April.

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It was, yeah.
Market, I'll put that in the

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show notes because we found a
couple of different links.

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Pod News has a few different
sources, but yeah, we'll put

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that in the show notes for sure.
And by the way, if you are

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listening on Clubhouse Live
right now, you might have said,

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hey, where'd Nick go?
Well, Nick is now over on

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Chatter.
And by the way, Ed, thank you

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for the $5 in the Rocket Chat
over on Chatter.

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Chatter, for those of you who
don't know, Chatter has a

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monetization feature now where
anybody at any point can donate

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some money for what we're doing.
And thank you to Ed for the $5

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donation.
Much appreciated.

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Jonathan kicked it off yesterday
with a $3 donation.

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Thank you, Jonathan, And yeah,
very cool, Ed Thank you for

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being the first listener to do
that for us over here on

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Chatter.
That's awesome.

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All right, Dr. go ahead and give
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I've got the timpani ready.
OK, Spotify, the top five number

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5 is this past week with Theo
von #4 is Crime junkie #3 is

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call her daddy #2 is Mystery
Mondays and #1 it's such a

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shock.
It is Joe Rogan experience.

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Amazing.
Oh my God, you're kidding.

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Amazing.
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And the random chart of the week
is going to be sports.

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So this is Apple.
This is an Apple chart.

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And it is number 5, Fantasy
Footballers Fantasy Football

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podcast #4 Pablo Torre finds
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Number three, The Bill Simmons
podcast #2 The Dan Lombard Show

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with studgots and #1 pardon my
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So there's a little, there's a
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of these.
And I pardon my take.

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It says the loud.
I feel like I need to read it

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with a little New York accent.
It's the loudest and most

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correct sports take in the
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Love when Dr. goes into her
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It's Stu got get it right.
That's right.

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It's not, it's not, it's not
still gots.

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It's Stu Gots.
Still got that?

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Makes sense now.
Thank you, Alex.

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And that that number 5 in the
sports that was a fantasy

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football show, right?
What?

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What was the name?
It was it's it's Fantasy

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Footballers Dash fantasy
football podcast.

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Yeah, Fantasy Footballers.
Yep, I know that show.

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And for those of you who don't
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in podcasting was based on
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I'm a junkie when it comes to
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years ago as well.
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because I started it back in
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Yes, I have now somewhat
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No surprise.
I'm turning 52 in August.

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But yeah, the fantasy, the
fantasy, thanks.

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The fantasy football category
was is near and dear to my

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heart.
It's what got me into podcasting

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in the first place and cool to
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And that's not a surprise
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This time of year is when
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ramping up and we'll we, I
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an eye on that sports category
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and then into September, we may
see some more fantasy sports

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shows in that top five list.
I think that's all we got from

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4:00 Dr. as far as the top
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Thank you for those.
Let me move on to some events

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around the world of podcasting.
Some places you may want to

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consider joining over the next
month or two or three.

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Podcast Movement, as you know,
is now under a month away,

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coming August 18th to Dallas,
TX.

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I've seen some empowered
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they're also speaking at Podcast
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So if you don't catch them at
Podcast Movement, because let's

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be real for a minute, no shade
on Podcast Movement, but it's

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quite a pricey ticket and a
pricey adventure really, because

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not just the cost of the
tickets, but the cost of the

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rooms and eating and all the
things, it adds up quickly.

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And that's one of the reasons
why we started Empowered

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Podcasting was to create an
event that you can get similar

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value and information and also
get it in a more intimate and

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affordable setting.
Again, no shade for Podcast

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Movement.
I love the event.

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It's just it, it can be pricey.
Jonathan, you and I went last

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year.
Are you going this year?

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I'm not going this year, no, no.
Me neither.

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Is anybody going to podcast
movement that's here right now

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and you can tell us in the chat
as well if you are going.

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I'm guessing I see Janae in the
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I'm guessing Janae's going to
Podcast Movement.

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What say you, Janae?
Yes, he is.

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I knew it.
OK, Let me know if you are going

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because I'm not like I said, not
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to have somebody there.
Maybe Janae can be a

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correspondent for us.
Well, while he's there and come

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and report, share what's going
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That would be pretty cool to
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Also coming up, if you're in
Indonesia, September 1st, Radio

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Days Asia is happening and then
also the POD Summit YYC 2025.

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That is September 19th in
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And by the way, Radio Days, if I
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and Dr. you having another event
you wanted to share, this is

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actually a recurring event.
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So there is, I'm a, I'm very big
on networking and if I can find

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a networking event that is
dedicated just to podcasts, then

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that is that's the cherry on top
of the sundae for me.

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So there is a new reoccurring
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happening.
It is media Firestarter

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networking.
It's every Monday at 5:00 PM

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Eastern Time, 4:00 PM Central,
2:00 PM Pacific and your network

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networking with only podcasters
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So and of course producers.
I was there as a producer, so I

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do not when it comes to getting
my clients on podcasts.

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I don't send the e-mail, the
cold e-mail, you know, here's my

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client.
I think it they'll be a great

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value.
I go to these events and I look

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for podcasts where there might
be a good opportunity for a

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guest swap or maybe something
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But I want to meet these people.
I want them to see my

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personality.
I that's what I do.

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That's how I facilitate those
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clients.
That's how I do it.

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I'm gone to two of these so far
and it's brand new and I would

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just really like to see this one
really grow.

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So we'll put that link in the
show notes.

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Yeah, and I shared it in the
chat both on Clubhouse and on

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Chatter and actually doing it
right now on YouTube as well.

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And Speaking of links, Ashley,
producer Ashley, if you don't

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mind, will you pin the link to
Chatter, our room going on right

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now?
Will you pin that to the

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clubhouse room?
So if anybody wants to come

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check that out and see me on
video or you can also see me on

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video at YouTube.
But I want to try to build the

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chatter community.
So if you feel like it, come on

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over there and keep the chatter
chatter.

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Keep Nick and Jonathan company
and Leah as well.

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Leah's on stage with us as well.
And again, shout out to Ed and

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Austin for chillin in the in the
audience over on Chatter.

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All right, let's see.
Oh, and of course, I should say

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before we jump out of the events
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Empowered Podcasting 2 is
happening September 26th through

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the 28th.
That's our very own event that I

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host with the help of many
others, including Jonathan

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Howard here on stage and Nick,
for that matter, also a big

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help.
And yeah, the event is finally

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coming together.
I say that it's a little bit

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tongue in cheek.
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heard back from half of them and
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them by the end of last week.
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you know, now, now what?
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of the day, I think all but one
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that ended up not being able to
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couple of slots.
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more letters here soon, but
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names if you are in the podcast
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I'm really excited about.
I had a great conversation on

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Monday with Dave Jackson, a
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He even made the comment that
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there last year.
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he's heard and he's hearing
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he's getting feelings of the OG
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happened, a little little
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and a great environment for
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Dr. was talking about and grow
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So empoweredpodcasting.com,
please, if you're coming, go get

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your tickets.
It would really help me and help

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put my mind at ease to see these
ticket sales starting to come

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in.
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ticket sales, people are coming
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fact that you guys make me wait
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did last year.
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common theme when it comes to
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I've heard from Pod fest, I've
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I am not alone here.
DRI know it is kitchen time.

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Did you want to share this
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to come back to it?
I actually have another event.

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Oh, there you go.
Then we'll come back to it.

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Go ahead.
So I got a text from Alex.

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You're getting yelled at.
You're getting yelled at.

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I heard.
I heard the misses.

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It's Lucy's.
You know what?

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Actually, you can leave that in.
That just made me laugh.

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Let's keep things going.
We'll get back to Dr. and the

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events.
Let's dig into some news stories

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here.
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something that maybe you
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far as a podcast news episode.
And it's worth discussing and

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I'll explain why, but some for
obvious reasons, but some maybe

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not.
So as I'm sure many of you have

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heard, Malcolm Jamal Warner,
best known for his iconic role

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as Theo on The Cosby Show and
again, I guess I'm dating myself

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a bit, tragically passed away on
July 20th at the age of 54, just

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a couple years older than me.
And if you didn't hear, and you

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want to know why, it was a
tragic accident.

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He was traveling with his family
in Costa Rica and got pulled

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over by I guess a riptide.
The undercurrent pulled him in

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and unfortunately he didn't get
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So we're covering this headline
today, not just because he was a

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major figure in pop culture and
truly a good man, but also

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because he had recently entered
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powerful way.
He Co hosted a show called Not

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All Hood with Candace Kelly.
It was a podcast that launched

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in 2024 focused on black mental
health, culture and identity.

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In what would be his final
episode, released just two days

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before his death, Warner
delivered a moving reflection on

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Black excellence and the
resilience of Black survival.

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And I'll say it again, Not All
Hood is the name of the podcast.

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If you want to check that
episode out in more episodes of

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For that Matter.
While the future of the podcast

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hasn't yet been publicly
addressed, not all Hood remains

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A profound part of Warner's
legacy, one that showed his

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continued evolution as an artist
and a truth teller.

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And I have a clip that I want to
play to honor him really.

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And this happens to be a video.
I don't think it's the last

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video he publicly posted, but
from what I researched, it's one

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of the very last that he did
post.

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And even if it's not really
amazing words to hear,

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especially considering the
situation.

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So I'm going to play it for you.
It's about two minutes long, and

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I'll say that I edited it down a
bit because I really wanted to

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capture the whole message and it
was certainly a stream of

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consciousness type of video that
he did.

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So I just wanted to tighten it
up for you so that we could

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really get to the heart of it
and hear the message in its

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entirety.
So this is the late great

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Malcolm Jamal Warner in one of,
I believe his last messages so.

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I'm I'm having a moment right
now.

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So it's a moment of extreme
gravity.

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There are people showing up for
me in a way that makes me a

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little emotional.
I don't even talk about, you

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know, what The thing is, but
people are showing up for me.

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And, and not that I should be
surprised because these

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particular people would be
people who would show up for me

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because that's just the kind of
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But it still doesn't negate the
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gravity, the whatever emotions
it brings up being touched in my

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heart and my soul and it make
wants me to share be a good

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person, right being good to
others, be of service.

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Do good for other people to
other people, right to other

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people good because one, it's
actually did just part of a

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self-serving part of that
because you know, it makes you

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feel good to do something good
for other people.

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We should always keep that in
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Like you want to feel good, but
you want to feel good about

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something.
You feel down and in the funk

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about something.
I know it said, you know, the

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couple of posts to God talked
about being gratitude being a

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set of gratitude can pull you
out of that.

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But you know what also works a
really active thing is do

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something for someone else.
You can't help but feel good,

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and not that you do it for
things in return, but I guess

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the icing, you know the extra
value in that is that people

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will show up for you and people
will show up for you when you

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need them to.
For everyone in this world for

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keeping the forefront of their
mind, being of service to other

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people, and treating other
people good, this world would be

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such a better fucking place,
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Rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal
Warner And what beautiful words

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in my opinion.
And I know maybe some may feel

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like that feels a little eerie.
And I think it's a beautiful

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statement and I think it's words
to live by.

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And, and I know I did some
research on him as of late and I

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know he's a spiritual guy.
I know that he's very

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interpersonal growth and I heard
him on an interview, you know,

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probably a few years old,
talking about that people may

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not know that he's someone that
struggles a lot with being OK

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with the idea that he's enough.
And that felt very relatable to

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me.
And I think that a lot of

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podcasters at some point or
another go through that.

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Am I enough?
Am I worthy of doing this

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podcast?
Who am I to speak on these

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topics and try to be an
authoritative figure, right?

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We all go through it and it puts
my mind at ease that although

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gone way too soon, it sounds
like he had found some peace for

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himself before he left this
earth.

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And we're all growing and we're
all learning and we can all

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improve over time.
And it feels like he's has

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certainly connected with
himself.

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And what I'd like to do is if
anyone here doesn't mind sharing

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a moment, maybe from The Cosby
Show or something about Malcolm

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Jamal Warner that you know, or
that you remember about him.

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I know one of the classic scenes
that I remember from The Cosby

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Show.
And yes, I'll let me just

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acknowledge.
I know there is a whole thing

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about Bill Cosby.
And this is about Malcolm Jamal

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Warner, who became famous
because of Bill Cosby and

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because of that show.
So we have to, we have to

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mention it.
We have to talk about it if

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we're going to honor this man.
And I remember there was 1

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episode in particular that
always stands out.

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And it was probably an earlier
episode of The Cosby Show and it

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was 1 where he was talking all
about he was probably like 15

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years old or something.
And he's telling his dad that he

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wants to be on his own and that
he wants to, you know, afford to

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move out and do what he wants,
be on his own.

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And it was a whole scene that
Bill Cosby used Monopoly money

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to show him just how expensive
it can be to to live on your

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own.
And it was a whole back and

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forth of he gives him a bunch of
money and then starts little by

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little, taking more and more
away for different expenses like

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living and, you know, apartment
and food and girlfriend.

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And it was a hilarious scene.
And he was the only son on that

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show.
And he was the perfect, he

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played the perfect role of being
the only son on The Cosby Show.

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So if anybody has a moment,
you're welcome to share.

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Otherwise, rest in peace,
Malcolm Jamal Warner.

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Amanda, did you want to add
something?

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Yeah, I do love that episode,
but there are so many from that

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show that I just think they're
so great from when they would do

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the shows for the grandparents
or when Denise, like, sewed him

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that famous silk shirt, satin
shirt that was all mismatched

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and didn't fit him right.
But what I really, really loved,

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and I feel like this fit his
personality as he became older

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was when they realized he had
like a learning disability and

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how much the world, I feel like,
opened up for him once that was

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discovered.
And for him to go on from being

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a poor student to somebody who
then went to college and became

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a teacher and started affecting
students, I just thought that

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that was such a great storyline
to put in there.

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So I just think I have so many
wonderful memories of him acting

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as Theo and I just, I when I
heard the news that he passed,

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it was shocking.
So we never know what our last

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day is.
We're never guaranteed a

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tomorrow.
So make today count.

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Agreed and thank you for
bringing up that episode with

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the learning disability.
Totally forgot about that

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episode.
And now I looking back, I

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remember how much I connected
with that and at the time, I

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don't even know if I had gone to
try to get a diagnosis, if to

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see if I had a learning
disability.

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I did get I did go through that
process at some point in my life

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or in high school and got the
wrong diagnosis.

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However, I just remember
connecting so much with that and

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almost hoping when I saw that
episode that you know what maybe

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that that's me like maybe I've
got something going on.

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It very well may have opened
that door the more I think about

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it to wanting to get tested and
unfortunately not getting an

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ADHD diagnosis at the time and
had to wait till I was 30

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something to get that diagnosis.
But yes thank you for bringing

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that up.
I might even go back and try to

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find that episode on YouTube
just to reconnect with it.

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I still see the red pepper up
Amanda.

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Is that just because my club
deck hasn't updated?

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I think so, but I know Dr. did a
pepper as well so it should be

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from her.
OK.

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And for those of those of you
who are wondering what a pepper

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what we're talking about, that's
how we mark that.

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Hey, we want to say something
over on Clubhouse, it's the

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emoji we use.
Go ahead, DRI.

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Was just about to say that for
all intense purposes,

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appearances showed that he did
not fall into that stereotypical

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thing that we see when it comes
to child actors, where they go

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through, you know, a lot of hard
times, substance abuse and

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everything, and then maybe even
perish soon because of that.

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It felt as though he escaped all
of that mishegash and, you know,

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sort of led his own life, that
that's what it felt like.

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Now what it was in real life,
I'm not sure, but he didn't make

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those headlines that other child
star actors had have done.

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Yeah, yeah.
And I don't know.

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I mean, I know I've, I heard a
couple interviews researching

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him and it sounds like just like
everyone else, he has certainly

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had some trouble, oh, growing up
through through life.

447
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,760
But you're right.
I mean, he certainly at the very

448
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840
least escaped those headlines if
he did have some big things

449
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,840
going on in his life and what
for where he was most recently,

450
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,000
it certainly seems like he got
his act together and and really

451
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:04,080
became such an impactful, strong
man both to his family, his

452
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,640
community and beyond.
So, yeah, again, rest in peace,

453
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320
Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Really it is.

454
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,840
I agree, Amanda, really shocking
to say the least.

455
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,000
Dr. Did you want to share about
the that awards story?

456
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,320
Oh yeah, sure.
So now there is a comic festival

457
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,560
that happens every year with the
exception of last year.

458
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,600
It's called Just for Laughs
Festival in Montreal, and they

459
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,120
give out awards, you know,
besides all the different events

460
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,800
happening during the couple of
days of the festival.

461
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,680
So comedians Tig Notaro,
Fortune, Theme Stir and May

462
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,320
Martin, who launched their
podcast Handsome in 2023, will

463
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,160
receive the Podcast of the Year
trophy at the Just For Last

464
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920
festival in Montreal.
Yay for them.

465
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,440
Yay.
And OK, fun fact that Dr. knows

466
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,960
but I haven't shared with anyone
else, here's the crazy part.

467
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,920
This podcast, Handsome Fortune
and it's Femster.

468
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,800
Is that right or I never can?
I before E except after see the

469
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,720
2000 together the 1st.
Time I always pronounce her last

470
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,320
name wrong all right well she is
a comedian I'm sure many of you

471
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,520
know if you look her up you'll
know who she is and here's the

472
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:29,080
crazy part I could have been the
producer of that show no lie.

473
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,960
I actually had a conversation
with her about her podcast and

474
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,840
producing it my my friend
Lowell, who's also my Co host of

475
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,760
my former show the Mark and
Lowell show.

476
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,760
His sister is a celebrity makeup
artist look her up Jamie makeup

477
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,680
she's blowing up on social media
has been for a long time now

478
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:55,200
especially on Instagram.
Her client was Fortune and they

479
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,760
became friends and I used to
produce Jamie's podcast as well.

480
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,920
And Jamie connected the two of
us, me and Fortune, and we had a

481
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,280
good a long talk about her
podcast.

482
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,000
And she ended up at the time
when we talked about it, she

483
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,520
ended up not moving forward at
all with it.

484
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,800
But then I think several months
later, maybe about a year later

485
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,560
from when I spoke to her, she
ended up starting the podcast

486
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,880
and unfortunately not with me,
but so be it.

487
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,080
It's just crazy to think that I
could have been the the producer

488
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,560
of that podcast of the year
podcast.

489
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,200
One of these days, I'll be the
producer of of that show.

490
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400
Maybe it'll be this show.
We shall see.

491
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,160
All right, let's dive into some
more news.

492
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960
The line.
Let's do this sub Stack just

493
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,920
landed $100 million in funding
and they're not playing small

494
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,480
anymore.
What started as a home for

495
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,040
newsletters is now making real
moves in the podcast space.

496
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Thousands of shows are already
hosted there, and this new round

497
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,360
of funding, it's all about
leveling up the different tools

498
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,400
they have, expanding the reach,
and giving creators even more

499
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,480
control.
So here's what makes Sub Stack

500
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,600
stand out.
We know that they have the free

501
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160
hosting.
Some of you may not know they

502
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,080
have wide distribution through
RSS feeds.

503
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,280
That's the way that we get our
audio podcasts distributed and

504
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280
the ability to offer both free
and paid content.

505
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,560
They take 10% of that money that
you earn, plus the usual fees,

506
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,920
and the rest is yours.
Total creative control.

507
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,120
And they're taking, they're
talking about advertising next

508
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,960
because creators are looking
beyond subscriptions for ways to

509
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,840
monetize.
Sub Stack says they're all in on

510
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,360
making the app experience
stronger and actually enjoyable.

511
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,920
Not bloated, not overwhelming,
just useful.

512
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,120
And the bottom line is, is Sub
Stacks not just a writing

513
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,400
platform anymore?
If you haven't figured it out

514
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,880
yet, and I know we've talked
about it before, but I don't see

515
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,000
a lot of people from this
community taking full advantage

516
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,480
of it.
So I want to make sure you go

517
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,920
and check that out if that
sounds like something of

518
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,960
interest to you.
And we've got a couple people on

519
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,600
stage over on Chatter as well.
It's Adrian and Amanda Yoa who a

520
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,080
lot of you on in our clubhouse
community know very well.

521
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Welcome to both of you.
I'll take a a pause here real

522
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,400
quick just to check in because I
want to make it very clear and I

523
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,640
know Amanda Yohen knows this.
We're happy to take any

524
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,720
questions, podcasting, social
media, anything related to

525
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,960
podcasting.
We're happy to take any of your

526
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,520
questions.
At any point in the

527
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:55,360
conversation, you can interrupt
us and our flow to come up and

528
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,760
ask your question because
ultimately that's what this

529
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,480
community is about.
It's about serving in an

530
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,120
empowering one another.
So with that, Adrian, good

531
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,320
morning, welcome to the stage.
Are you here to participate?

532
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,639
Just listen.
Go for it.

533
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Oh, good morning, good morning.
I actually list of all of that

534
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,760
all of the above nice along with
am I able to share something

535
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,520
that that we have a new program
for podcasters.

536
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,520
Sure.
Well, it's called Pod to Book

537
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,080
and it is literally, it's
literally you put your RSS feed

538
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:38,880
into pod to book dot AI and you
put your RSS feed you pick out.

539
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,159
15.
Episodes and it will convert

540
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,080
into an amazing book.
I have a $50 off coupon so it'll

541
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:53,800
come out to be $199 for an
amazing book and I I've already

542
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,400
done it.
Leah, is it OK to mention that?

543
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,400
Of course.
So Leah is actually the first

544
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,320
chapter talking about chatter
and did you have a chance to

545
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,640
look at the chapter or graze at
it?

546
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,520
It's amazing.
Yeah, it really is amazing.

547
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680
It makes me look much more
fabulous than I am, I'll just

548
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,080
say that.
Not possible.

549
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,760
So.
Be sure it's possible.

550
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Really cool and we're getting a
lot of great feedback.

551
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,160
There's was one other company
that was trying to do it, but

552
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,960
they had a waiting list for a
long time.

553
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,560
Sheila Slick, the founder and a
good friend of mine, she spent

554
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,800
about 600 hours putting this
together.

555
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,000
What she had to do is really
crazy, but it is now available

556
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,440
and I just want to share for
that because taking your podcast

557
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,000
and bringing it to another, to a
book with your guests is a whole

558
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,800
nother level.
Then you could create

559
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,480
masterminds and there's so many
other things that you could do.

560
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,920
So just think I didn't want to,
I feel bad, but I do want to

561
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,400
share it because this is really
a gift to podcasters everywhere

562
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,920
that you could do your book now.
So thank you for letting me

563
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,720
share.
Amanda, yoa, good morning.

564
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,600
Welcome.
Glad to have you here.

565
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Now that we're on chatter, does
that mean we might see you more

566
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,880
often?
And Amanda is so kind with the

567
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,480
Rocket chat giving a donation as
well.

568
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Thank you.
That's so sweet of you.

569
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,760
You didn't need to do that.
Good.

570
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,800
Morning.
I just I love it.

571
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120
I'm so happy to see you on
chatter.

572
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Yes, you will see more of my
face.

573
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,320
Awesome.
I love this.

574
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,560
I'm so happy.
We are so happy you're here.

575
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,080
And hey, I mean, Amanda, if
you're, if you're interested

576
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160
anytime, if you want to be a
regular moderator over here on

577
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,360
chatter, I would love for you to
be more involved in this.

578
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,240
So you are welcome to and no
pressure.

579
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:40,320
You don't have to answer now,
but I but you are more than

580
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480
welcome.
OK, you, you gave me the check

581
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,000
mark.
I'm going to make you a

582
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,920
moderator right now.
Make a commit right now.

583
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Put her right on the spot.
That's what I think.

584
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,560
That's yeah, done.
But yeah.

585
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,720
We also see more of Pam over
here too.

586
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,240
Yes you do.
Pam was actually out and about

587
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,000
last night on these chatter
streets, believe it or not.

588
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,480
Yes, for those who don't know,
Pam is what, how do I put it?

589
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,880
Amanda, the alter ego, your
alter ego.

590
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,960
Yes, Pam is a character that I
play if you follow me on

591
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,160
Instagram.
She's a a Philly mom character

592
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,520
that I play for my comedy
sketches.

593
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,840
I always my scroll always stops
when I see Amanda yoa in the

594
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,400
wig.
Sorry.

595
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,760
When I see Pam, my scroll always
stops.

596
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,120
I got to see and I don't know.
Maybe it's because I have a love

597
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,800
hate relationship for Philly.
Amanda, even though I love you

598
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,840
dearly, I I have a love hate for
Philly being a Washington

599
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,800
Commanders fan and Pam cracks me
up.

600
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,240
All right, let's keep things
moving.

601
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,680
We got other headlines to do, so
I'm going to go to you Dr. with

602
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,560
our story on speed listening.
That's that's item number 5 on

603
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,480
our list.
Got it.

604
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,800
OK, so confirmed by science.
Watching podcasts or online

605
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:08,520
classes at twice the speed can
harm your mental performance and

606
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,120
cause cognitive overload.
In a world jammed with content

607
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,360
and no time to actually sit with
it, speed has become the go to.

608
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,840
Podcast, lectures, YouTube.
Everyone's hitting play at 1.52

609
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,760
times, even 2.5.
The ideal more in more is

610
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,840
faster, but the trade off you
might not be retaining as much.

611
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,920
A new meta analysis across 24
studies says that flat out, the

612
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,280
faster you go, the more
comprehension drops.

613
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,040
At 1.5, the dips, the dip is
minor.

614
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,600
At 2.5, test scores can drop up
to 17 points.

615
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,440
Now sure, younger brains 18 to
36 tend to handle it better,

616
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,520
working memory helps and stuff
like that.

617
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:06,040
But even they hit a ceiling.
And once you hit it, all that

618
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,480
extra info, it just doesn't
stick.

619
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,400
So if you're blazing through
podcasts thinking that you're

620
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,520
saving time, maybe pause a
second, the contents not going

621
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,480
anywhere, but your brain might
need you to slow it down if you

622
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,480
actually want to remember any of
it.

623
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,320
This is kind of hitting close to
home for me.

624
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,840
We've talked about it.
It's been a little bit.

625
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,120
We've talked about speeds and
what speed we listen or watch

626
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,240
podcasts.
What?

627
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,560
What do you?
What's your usual DRI forget?

628
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,400
Well, up until about two or
three months ago, I was just at

629
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,480
the normal speed.
I didn't, you know, speed it up.

630
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:55,000
But in the past two months, I've
gone to one point to 1.5 OK.

631
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,520
And you know, it just takes a
second to, to get used to,

632
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,040
right?
The to get used to it.

633
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,360
But now with this this story, it
is.

634
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,080
It's making me stop and think a
little bit.

635
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,360
I want to know what it's what's
everyone's preferred speeds.

636
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,680
I want to remember this How?
How are you?

637
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,560
How fast are you listening?
I see Producer Ashley says she

638
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,760
listens to almost everything in
two times speed Janae.

639
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,520
Janae says one time.
Amanda Yoa, how about you?

640
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,800
1.5 for me.
OK, Do you feel like you're

641
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,600
remembering everything when
you're listening at 1.5?

642
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,000
Honestly, yeah.
And I don't know if I attributes

643
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,120
to my ADHD, but honestly if I
leave sometimes if I'm listening

644
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,080
to something and it's slow, the
person speaking is slow, I will

645
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,480
zone out and not remember a
thing they said.

646
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,360
Versus if I speed it up and that
person, you know, it's just for

647
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,320
me.
It just works better that way.

648
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,480
All right, there you go.
There's for Amanda.

649
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,480
And yeah, I get it.
I really.

650
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Another question I have is why?
Why do we feel the need to have

651
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,920
to listen so fast?
Right.

652
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,880
What is it about that?
Go ahead, dear.

653
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,160
For me, it's like I have a lot
of things on my playlist that I

654
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,640
have to get through, and there's
just so many hours in the day.

655
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,040
I mean, I usually listen.
I don't sit and listen.

656
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,760
I listen while I'm washing
dishes.

657
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,600
I listen while I'm in the bath,
quite frankly, in the shower.

658
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,840
I listen, you know, I'm, I'm
there's, I'm doing stuff while

659
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,800
I'm listening.
And there's just so much stuff

660
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,600
to do.
You know, there's sometimes you

661
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,000
run out of stuff to do and, and
that makes me turn off the

662
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,680
podcast.
So yeah.

663
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,440
By the way, there was one of
your filler words you just said,

664
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:50,400
so trust me, I could be called
out all morning long.

665
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,800
And thank you for not calling me
out all morning long.

666
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,280
Let's see, we have.
So Janae said he listens at one

667
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,120
time speed.
Yvonne, same thing.

668
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:04,960
She doesn't ever speed it up.
Renee says 1.25, Austin's at 1.5

669
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,840
and I will occasionally.
It depends why or why I'm going

670
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,320
to hit that button to speed it
up right For me, if sometimes if

671
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,720
it's something short and it's
informational, it's helping me

672
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,600
maybe solve some kind of issue
with my computer or something

673
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,320
like that, I might put it on
fast speed to just get to the

674
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,200
meat of it quickly.
But then I'll have to end up

675
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,320
putting it on regular speed
because I really want to follow

676
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,400
the steps.
I can't follow all the steps if

677
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,880
it's going too fast.
And then podcasts like if I'm in

678
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,680
the car driving normally it's
going to be regular speed for

679
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,280
me.
But but if if I notice they're

680
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,960
just talking too too slow of a
pace for me while I'm driving, I

681
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,560
might speed it up to like 1.25.
But otherwise I think I tend to

682
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,000
also be regular speed for the
most part.

683
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,280
So now the talk that we have
done, that we have just done, is

684
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,520
all about audio.
I would be interested in knowing

685
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,360
if anyone speeds up the video.
Yeah, I know.

686
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,040
I kind of feel like I'll do it
with video the same way with

687
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,760
audio.
Sometimes I speed it up

688
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,120
depending on what the situation
is.

689
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,160
I see Jonathan wants to chime in
as well, and I think Amanda Yoa

690
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,760
also wants to chime in.
Go ahead, Jonathan.

691
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,240
So I will quickly say I listened
to it at 1:00 because if I'm

692
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,640
doing something like DRS doing,
I start moving at that faster

693
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,160
speed and I usually start
dropping things like plates

694
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,000
while I'm doing dishes and stuff
like that.

695
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,040
It's not a good, it's not good
for me.

696
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,480
So one.
All right, Jonathan knows the

697
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120
danger of going speeding it up
too quickly.

698
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,960
All right, let's go to back to
Amanda.

699
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,840
Yoa, go ahead, Amanda.
Yeah, I was just curious if

700
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,560
there was any, any studies or
anything out there regarding why

701
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,120
people listen at a faster rate
and if it is because of the

702
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,960
length, You know, I know we've
talked about that before, how

703
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,800
long to make your podcast
episodes.

704
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,200
So if like majority of people
are speeding it up just to fit

705
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,080
it into their daily schedule,
because you know, your episodes

706
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,560
50 minutes long versus if they
speed it up, it could cut, you

707
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,400
know, cut some time off.
That's something to think about

708
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,080
going forward, you know.
Yeah, I'd love to see that.

709
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,400
I don't think this study went
into that detail, did it, Dr.

710
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,400
Did you see?
I did not see that.

711
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,000
But the other thing that that is
more constant to me is that

712
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,520
every time now that I turn my
podcasts on with the platform

713
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,120
that I'm on, it doesn't reset.
It keeps the speed from what I

714
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:44,320
listened to the last time.
So if it if it was 1.2, that's

715
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,080
where the next one is going to
be, no matter when I turn it on.

716
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,720
So it's maybe it's just a lazy
thing where I don't go in and I

717
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,920
change it back to one.
Maybe that has something to do

718
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,360
with me too.
Yeah, that could be.

719
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,960
And I want to just make sure.
Did anybody else on stage want

720
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:02,840
to add anything to this before I
keep it going?

721
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,400
I know Ashley wanted to say
something, as did I saw.

722
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,120
There you go.
Thank you, Amanda.

723
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,800
Thanks for and by the way, yeah,
thank you to my team on

724
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,400
Clubhouse, keeping an eye on
that because my eyes are

725
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,040
bouncing between three different
platforms.

726
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,720
So this is really helpful.
Thanks for keeping an eye on

727
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,320
things.
Go ahead, producer Ashley.

728
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:26,120
I definitely listen at least 1.5
and even up to two times speed

729
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,640
on audio and video depending on
the show.

730
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,120
And I think it's because I might
have editor's brain.

731
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,320
I think the way that some people
edit, they don't reduce the gaps

732
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,520
as well as others.
So I think by putting it up to

733
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,200
1.5 in a way sort of fixes it,
and I think that's why I do.

734
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,400
OK, makes sense.
And Amanda Sharp, what do you

735
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,720
got for us?
Well, this is such a timely

736
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,960
conversation because just
yesterday I started listening to

737
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,040
some audio fiction books again
and I had it at a faster speed.

738
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,360
And for that I said, you know
what, I need to reset it down to

739
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,160
1 because if I'm reading fiction
or listening rather, I'm going

740
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,960
to be losing some of the skill
of storytelling if I have it too

741
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,160
fast.
And I'm kind of in the depths of

742
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,920
writing and doing some fictional
stories.

743
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,160
And I said I need to train my
brain to, to think again as like

744
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,560
a storyteller.
So I, I took it back to one

745
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,920
where typically if I was
consuming content, I, it was

746
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,240
just at like a 1.5, which is
totally not that crazy where

747
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,240
some people are like above 2.
And I'm like, how?

748
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,520
But I just thought I needed to
train my brain again to have

749
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:37,040
that slower, thoughtful, regular
pace listening experience to

750
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,520
just kind of reset my brain a
little bit.

751
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,600
So what a great conversation, so
timely.

752
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,720
Yeah.
And that's that's exactly, I

753
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,680
think what this study is saying
is that it's hard retention

754
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,000
drops when the speed goes up.
Janae, go for it.

755
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,400
Good morning.
Welcome to the stage.

756
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,640
Good morning, guys.
Great question and great study.

757
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,240
So the study is focusing on
podcasting, I'm guessing.

758
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,280
Well, it's really just focusing
on consumption of content and

759
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,160
and how fast you're you're
running that speed.

760
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,520
Got it.
So somebody asked if they there

761
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,960
was a study done about what are
the benefits for listening or

762
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,160
why are people actually doing
so.

763
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,880
In 2000 and 2022, January
Applied Cognitive Psychology

764
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,600
volume 36, they did a study and
they asked students and this is

765
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,720
focusing on lecture, watching
lecture at double the video

766
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:40,520
speed and it's actually doesn't
there's an article associated as

767
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,160
well.
It's actually has minimal cost

768
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,280
to comprehension because when
you're listening to lectures,

769
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,360
people are, you know, the the
lecturers are actually speaking

770
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,200
slower and podcasting.
So when we're watching lectures

771
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,280
AT2X or even 3X speed, this was
an MIT challenge.

772
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,040
People often scoffed that it
doesn't work.

773
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:06,000
But after the study came out and
said people are actually OK

774
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,280
doing that, Yeah.
So I was like, OK, there is some

775
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,160
research done so I'll share the
link to the journal.

776
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,440
Yeah, please do put that in the
chat on Clubhouse here and

777
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,240
producer Ashley, I'll grab it
and put it in the show notes.

778
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:18,720
Thank you, Janae.
Look at that.

779
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,240
We we ask if there's a certain
kind of study out there and then

780
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:23,840
somebody delivers.
That's awesome.

781
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,880
Thank you.
Awesome, loving this community

782
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,320
and how everyone contributes.
So let's keep it going.

783
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,320
We've got probably time for one
or two more stories.

784
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,120
And actually, I think what I
want to do Dr. is I'm going to

785
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,880
go to this story about well,
this Shark Tank story, and since

786
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:54,280
it's a Shark Tank story, got to
play the Stinger that everyone

787
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,840
if you watch that show, you
know, somebody's walking through

788
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,840
the doors at that point.
So this title here, this

789
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,000
headline Shark Tank for
podcasts, indie podcasters pitch

790
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:08,440
for growth, and I'm going to
butcher this gentleman's name,

791
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,240
the writer of this particular
article, Frank, What do you

792
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,200
think DRI know?
I don't know why I'm asking you

793
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,840
you.
Resto race looks like a pasta

794
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,800
dress.
I don't know.

795
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,760
Yeah, right, RACIOPPI.
This way at least we'll get the

796
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,320
correct.
Name.

797
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,560
Yeah, OK, sure.
Frank is a podcast industry

798
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,520
junkie.
He proposes that a Shark Tank

799
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,920
style show where independent
podcasters pitch their shows to

800
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,720
a panel of podcast savvy
backers.

801
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Every episode would feature, and
again, this is all theoretical.

802
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,440
Every episode features 4
creators presenting their

803
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,000
format, audience content, goals,
and monetization plan.

804
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,680
The panel would dive into each
pitch, asking tough questions,

805
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,800
offering mentorship and
potentially writing real checks.

806
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,760
It's a hybrid of performance,
tough love and strategic

807
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,040
insights meant to propel an
independent podcaster to the

808
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,800
next level in reach and revenue.
I'm curious, what do we think

809
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,000
about that?
If would you, would you do

810
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,080
something like that?
I know I would love to do that.

811
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,880
Whether I could be one of the
sharks or one of the

812
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,120
contestants, I would love to do
that.

813
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,400
And I'm curious if anybody would
play along.

814
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,160
If you had two minutes to pitch
your panel and we don't have to,

815
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,320
we're not going to keep a clock
on you to pitch to a panel, what

816
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,960
would your tagline and hook be?
What would you or let me make it

817
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,840
even more simple, what would
you, what would you try to pitch

818
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,680
to to get a deal with a shark?
Is anyone willing to play along?

819
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,640
I'm looking here on How about
you, Dr. Are you willing to play

820
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,160
along?
You have a million podcasts that

821
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,400
haven't gone gone live yet, so
you you could get a shark to

822
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,120
maybe back one of those.
OK, let me pitch my very first

823
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,520
one then.
OK, my very first one is all

824
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,400
about boomers.
It's called boomers.

825
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,600
There you go Boomers side hustle
lounge and it's all about the

826
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,600
different unique jobs that
boomers could have in their

827
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,440
retirement just to make a little
side money.

828
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,400
So for instance, how about a
professional cuddler?

829
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,000
How about ever see ever go on
Namecheap to get your URL and

830
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,800
and you think, oh, this is the
best thing and all of a sudden

831
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,280
you see it's been taken, but you
can get it if you pay $5000.

832
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,400
Well, I interviewed those people
that get $5000.

833
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,840
How about like, do you look like
someone has ever, anyone ever

834
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,160
said to you, hey, you look just
like and they named some big

835
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,320
celebrity.
You can make money doing that.

836
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000
I would be curious.
I would be an interested shark.

837
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,520
I'd probably have a few more
questions.

838
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,400
I'm laughing because Janae just
wrote Professional Cuddler.

839
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,520
That's right.
And she did it on Zoom.

840
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,240
Wait, what?
Now that's interesting.

841
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,560
But I guess I guess, you know,
if, if there's a if there's room

842
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,680
for that kind of stuff in the
sexual arena, I guess hugging

843
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,960
could qualify as a virtual thing
too.

844
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Who knows?
Austin says economy of words and

845
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,720
purpose of context surely
impacted.

846
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,320
OK, so I thought he was talking
pitching for a second.

847
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,720
Sorry.
Austin was answering somebody

848
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,480
else.
And Ashley says in the chat, how

849
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,240
do you cuddle on Zoom?
I agree, Ashley, I'm not quite

850
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,520
sure how that works.
It was an amazing conversation.

851
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,280
I got to interview a Robin
Williams look alike and

852
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,360
throughout the interview I
really reached that realm of

853
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,560
weirdness where I thought I am
talking to Robin Williams.

854
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,080
It was wild.
It was wild.

855
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,160
That's cool.
And I see there's a guy on

856
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,800
TikTok.
I wonder if it's the same guy

857
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,400
that you interviewed because
he's comes sometimes pops up in

858
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,440
my feed and he's a Robin
Williams in.

859
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,480
Person is David.
OK, I'll look next time he pops

860
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,120
up and all right, Jonathan, I'm
going to come.

861
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,160
Me, you and I are going to do a
little bit of social media news

862
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,840
to wrap us up.
And I have to 1st go to you

863
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Jonathan to ask, did I just see
you cuddling your iPad?

864
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,080
I was cuddling my iPad because,
well, how do you puddle on Zoom?

865
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Oh, wow.
OK.

866
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,480
So Jonathan, why don't you first
kick us off with, I know you had

867
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,800
something about Instagram
trials, that newer feature and

868
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,320
then I want to piggyback off of
that.

869
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,200
All right, yes, Instagram trial
Reels are now available for more

870
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,760
creators.
If you are someone like me that

871
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,640
has been hoping to get into
trial Reels because they

872
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,000
actually work, then you might be
lucky.

873
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,360
I wasn't lucky, but they are
rolling it out to more creators

874
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,920
and allowing them to actually
create more trial reels.

875
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:05,280
If you're unfamiliar with trial
reels, what it does is it

876
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,600
creates A reel that doesn't go
to your audience, it goes to new

877
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,120
people.
That's a huge benefit when

878
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,720
you're creating your reels.
So yeah, I'll throw it back to

879
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,120
you, Mark.
We got some new people that are

880
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,040
hopefully going to have that and
I'm not one of them still, but.

881
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,840
Yeah, I am lucky enough to be
one of them.

882
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,120
And I've had a hard time
figuring out really how I want

883
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:32,040
to use them because, well, for
one, you know, I put some love

884
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,320
into the content I make.
And it's hard for me to put out

885
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,560
content that I know is only
going to a limited number of

886
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,800
people.
And if it doesn't do well, you

887
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,880
know, the advantage is it kind
of helps you decide or helps you

888
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,720
decide whether or not you want
to put it out there to the

889
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,360
world, right?
Because if it doesn't do well in

890
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,560
the trials, that's a good
indication it may not do well

891
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,680
publicly when you put it out
there.

892
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,760
So that's an advantage, but not
enough for me to move the needle

893
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,640
until I saw this cryptic post.
And I know this was

894
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,080
intentionally cryptic, a cryptic
post from social media expert

895
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,920
Brock Johnson.
So I'm sure many of you have

896
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,080
come across Brock Johnson if you
don't follow Brock already and

897
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,040
it sparked some serious
curiosity for me.

898
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,480
So I did a little digging and he
had revealed in this post that

899
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,440
well again, cryptic but I
figured it out what he was

900
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,080
saying that creators can use
trial reels along with DM

901
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:40,360
automation tools like say many
Chat or our friend Jeff Dwoskin

902
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,520
who joins us every so often.
He runs Stampede Social works in

903
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:50,360
a similar way, using those tools
to post up to 20 ad style reels

904
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,560
per day without spamming your
entire audience.

905
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:58,960
OK, so think of this almost like
a way to do some free

906
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,360
advertising to new people
outside of those who follow you

907
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,680
on Instagram.
Each of those reels becomes like

908
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:12,480
a mini lead generation machine.
It'll automatically send links,

909
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,200
offers or free downloads to
anyone who comments on these

910
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,560
quote UN quote trial reels.
So you could make more.

911
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,280
I don't want to say you want to
make them in the style of an ad,

912
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,440
but you can treat them as ads
without spamming your entire

913
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,120
audience.
I love this idea.

914
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,440
Jonathan, did you want to chime
in?

915
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,120
I want to give another option
for people who are doing this

916
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,280
potentially, if you have reels
that performed incredibly well,

917
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,560
those reels show to your
audience, you can take that same

918
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,280
exact reel, repost it as a trial
reel.

919
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,560
You know, it's got a history of
doing well and that's going to

920
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,920
go to a new audience, people
that didn't already see it.

921
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,440
So you can gain new followers,
gain, you know, some traction on

922
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,600
that particular reel.
It's going to be posted as a

923
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,600
separate reel on your feed in
the trial section, but it's

924
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,240
going to get you new followers,
so that's another great way to

925
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:09,760
do it.
I love that idea too, Jonathan.

926
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,880
I've just got now I'm like, I'm
now I'm excited about trial

927
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,120
reels again because I think that
was, that has been its biggest

928
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,120
problem is really how can we use
it to our advantage.

929
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,160
And I think those are two really
great ways, especially your I

930
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,800
really like yours because it
takes very little effort.

931
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,720
You've already made that
content.

932
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,120
You know that that content has
done well.

933
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:36,640
So you just take that again and
repost it as a new thing only to

934
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,760
new people who haven't seen your
stuff before, at least may not

935
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,360
have seen that particular one
before.

936
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,640
So that's a great suggestion.
Thank you, Jonathan.

937
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,280
Appreciate that.
You're welcome.

938
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,840
And I got to run.
OK, go for it.

939
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,880
Janae, did you have something
before we wrap up?

940
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,680
Yes, absolutely.
Brock is amazing.

941
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,560
He, he talks to so many cool
things about Insta.

942
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,280
And I was just going to mention
the same thing in the use ads

943
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,560
for trial and what Jonathan
mentioned about using your top

944
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:12,360
performing reels as trial, Gary
Vees talks about using your

945
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:18,320
performing reels as ads because
it's already, it's already done

946
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,880
the work for you.
So why experiment on you step in

947
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,240
when it's already working?
So yeah.

948
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,200
Yep, love it.
Thank you, Janae.

949
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,120
And with that gang, we have hit
the 8 O clock hour.

950
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,760
So we're going to wrap things
up, but don't worry, we're back

951
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,480
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952
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,680
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953
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,160
your podcasting journey,
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954
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:50,160
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955
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,520
help you through, we're happy to
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956
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,640
So bring it tomorrow or any day
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957
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,800
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958
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,400
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959
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960
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