316 - How to Take a Summer Break and Stay Connected

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Good morning podcasting, Morning
Chat.

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Today is Tuesday, June 3rd,
2025, and today we're opening up

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the mailbag with a question
about summer podcast plans,

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whether to take a break, mix
things up, or find new ways to

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stay connected with your
audience.

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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morning chat.
Thank you for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronick and
on stage here with me we have my

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Co hosts Amanda Sharp, Nick
Naul, back producer Ashley

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Feller and Sid Meadows.
If you noticed, if you're a

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regular listener, I did not say
Dr. Fade.

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DRS needing some time to
herself, some relaxation her

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back as she's told us before,
she has some issues with her

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back and it was really bugging
her this morning.

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So she's taken the morning.
All good.

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Hope you feel better, Dr. And
yeah, we're going to talk about

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summer plans, and also I've got
several things from the mailbag

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if time allows.
So we'll dig into other

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podcaster questions as well and
answer them as best we can or

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from our personal experience.
So first, I have some

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housekeeping items I wanted to
get to.

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I had reached out to Sid,
actually originally Sid reached

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out to me a few weeks ago, I
guess before my vacation.

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I guess knowing me as the
T-shirt guy, he came to me

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asking about and asked me about
my podcast T-shirt.

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So first, Sid, I'm curious if
you could share a little bit why

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specifically that shirt?
Good morning, everybody.

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Well, we were talking about that
shirt one day or something.

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Oh, it was Dan was talking about
the doing the coaching thing

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right in the coffee shops.
That's right.

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And somehow asked me about my
podcast came up.

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And so I went to Amazon and
started looking for an Ask me

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about my podcast shirt.
And they're all kind of crappy

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and I didn't like any of them.
So I sent Mark a message and

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said, would you please make and
ask me about podcast shirt

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because I'd rather buy it from
you and support you than some

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random people on Amazon with
shirts that are ugly.

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And so you did.
And so now I have me ask me

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about my podcast.
Awesome, and yes, it actually

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helped me, helped me make that
shirt as well.

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Just I gave him some different
variations.

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I'm going to share it with you
here and we'll put this in the

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show notes as well.
I 1 little thing we also did is

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we added the empowered
podcasting logo on it.

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Sid, is that on there?
Because I haven't even seen the

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shirts yet.
It's on the back, it's on the

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back it and it actually says
Empowered Podcasting Conference

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on the back of it.
And I got the blue one, the

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light blue one because my other
two are black.

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I have the friends one that you
gave me and then I bought the

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podcast morning chat 1.
And so I decided there was also

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black.
So I decided to get this one in

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blue and I really like it.
I like the color blue.

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I was telling Mark and text it.
The sizing is a little different

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than the original one that he
sent me, but that's OK.

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That's to be expected.
And if I had any feedback, yeah,

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it's a great shirt.
I love it.

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If I had any feedback, I would
want the logo that says Ask me

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on our podcast to be just a
little bit bigger.

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That's my only feedback.
Yeah, I appreciate that.

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And I appreciate you buying
those shirts too, Sid.

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Thank you.
And yeah, I always have a hard

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time, and I used to be in the
T-shirt printing business and I

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have a hard time determining how
big or small a logo should be on

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a shirt.
So maybe I went a little too

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small there, although I
personally like the size.

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Like, you know, everybody's
going to have a preference and

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opinion.
And I keep hearing my clubhouse

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making all sorts of noise.
Let me make sure.

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Let me see if I can get that to
stop.

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So if you're hearing that noise,
that's what it is via podcast.

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Anyway.
With that, Dan is on stage with

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us.
Dan, good morning.

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Did you want to add anything or
have a question?

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I was going to say I would like
one of those T-shirts, but I

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would like my QR code for my
podcast on there.

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Oh, well, then I'd have to make
individual T-shirts for

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everybody.
Maybe I could make a a page on

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the podcasting morning chat
website that has all of our

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podcasts on it so that then if
you hit that QR code, it'll show

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yours and everyone else's.
That would probably be the best

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I could do.
Otherwise, I'm going to have to

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do custom shirts, and I think
that's a bit much.

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But thank you, Dan.
And yeah, if you want to get

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that shirt, I've shared the link
with you there again, so you can

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get that shirt and all the
different podcast shirts you see

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me probably wearing on social
media and live here on YouTube.

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You can get those at
ironicmedia.com, and that's

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spelled IRONICK media.com
Playoff, my last name.

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And I wanted to also share a
little bit first a shout out to

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my cousin Louis, who I wished a
happy birthday to yesterday.

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And we were going back and forth
a little bit via text.

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And he revealed to me that he's
a regular listener of the

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podcasting morning chat.
And you might think, well,

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that's cool, Mark, but he
doesn't even have a podcast.

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And granted, OK, I'm his family,
so I'm sure that's the reason

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why he came to listen and he
enjoys listening.

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So thank you, Lou, shout out to
you.

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And this actually leads into the
next thing I wanted to share

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before we get into our usual
routine here this morning.

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I told you yesterday I started
my improv classes.

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It's improv one O 2.
I finished one O one a month or

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so ago.
And we played a few games that

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I'll just briefly share with you
just to give you an idea of how

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these kinds of classes work if
you have any interest.

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And I do recommend to any
podcaster and really anyone to

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take improv classes.
It really man.

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If anything for me, it's helping
me loosen up a lot.

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And I'm going to share something
about what Lou shared with me.

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Lou is a an actor, actually a
Shakespearean actor, and has

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done all sorts of different
types of acting and

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performances.
And he had some insight for me

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on improv.
So I'm going to share a little

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bit with you about that as well.
One of the games we played and I

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can't remember the official
names, so I'm just giving them

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my own name.
Good cop, bad cop.

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So what this involves is 3
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There's one person in the hot
seat literally sitting in a seat

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and there are two people playing
the good cop bad cop role and

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the person in the hot seat has
to leave the room while the

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audience quote UN quote.
In this case, the class comes up

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with a few different things that
ultimately the two cops are

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trying to get the person in the
hot seat to guess their crime

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and some of the details.
So essentially the two people

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are throwing out lots of clues
in character as cops.

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And so for example, if I can
remember mine, I think mine was

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that I my crime was that I had
to guess was that I didn't pick

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up after my dog on a walk.
And something about my oh, this

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was getting my eyeglasses
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I don't even know why that's a
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matter.
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was with a celebrity?
And now I can't remember who the

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celebrity was.
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me and I have to sit there in
character as the criminal trying

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to 1st deny and, you know, play
along and then little by little

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pay attention to those clues and
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And I did get it, even though I
can't remember now what it was.

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And then the other one was,
again, can't remember the name,

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but it was basically household
activity Olympics.

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This involved a lot of people.
I think 5, there were two people

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that were commentators.
There were two people that were

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performing the sport, quote UN
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And then there was a field
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And the sport were really any
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activity, not really a sport.
So for example, laundry folding,

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I believe was one of them.
And the tough part is that the

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two people, there are two people
that are competing in that

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laundry folding competition and
they have to do it in slow

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motion the entire time.
Really challenging.

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Even if it's like say a 5 minute
sketch, it's really challenging

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to stay in character in slow
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take direction because those
commentators are calling out

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things that you're doing.
It's a blast.

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It's a lot of fun.
And Lou and I were talking about

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improv, and he had wanted to
share with me a theory about it,

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or really what he learned as far
as how to make it, how to be

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successful at it.
Because I was telling him it's

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funny.
I do feel like I can be pretty

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quick on my feet when it comes
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observations.
You know, I tend to be that

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person in my group of friends
and family that makes everyone

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laugh, right?
But when I'm in these

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situations, I tend to go blank.
And he said to me, I'll try to

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say this in a way that doesn't
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He said, I think a lot of people
spend so much time and energy in

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quote UN quote protector mode
that it's hard to drop that.

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And the way that translates into
improv is that lots of people

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want to be the quote UN quote
the best, and improv is about

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the opposite.
To be good at improv, you have

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to ignore that thing that tells
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Rather, you take your whole
being and sacrifice it.

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These are his words.
Throw it in the garbage to make

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your scene partner look good.
It's nothing about you and

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everything about your partner.
And if you follow that recipe,

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oddly, this makes you funnier.
So the key really is is to let

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go of trying to do something and
just going with the moment,

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going with what's in your head,
in your heart, and ultimately

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looking for ways to make your
scene partner look better.

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So I'm going to work to apply
that next week when I'm back

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there.
So thank you for allowing me to

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share.
I hope that maybe this has

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inspired somebody or made
somebody think maybe I should

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try improv.
Lastly, I wanted to get to

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Amanda Sharp because yesterday I
had teased that I wanted to talk

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to her about some recent TikTok
activity.

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Those of you who listen
regularly know Amanda is all in

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on TikTok and also has a podcast
song swap showdown.

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But with her TikTok, she's
always looking for ways to be

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creative, have fun.
And some of the things that she

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shares are things like her
chickens, her, her sourdough

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bread making, and of course, her
store that she has in her

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hometown.
And that's what this one has to

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do with.
So Amanda, would you mind first?

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I know you've shared once before
a little bit, but there's been

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an update.
So would you first set this back

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up and then tell us a little bit
about the update?

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Absolutely.
Well, thank you for asking.

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Last Thursday, a gentleman, Mr.
Spinelli, brought in some

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beautiful coat racks to the
store for me to sell in.

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Honestly, it's not exact what I
typically would like bet on in

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the store for selling because it
just is not necessarily my most

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of my products that I sell are
gifts, but I just love this old

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man so much that I'm like, bring
him in.

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And he had said when he for them
that the goal would have been at

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one point country and sell
these.

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Well, now he's going to be the
in July and that just isn't a

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reality anymore.
And so I had said to him, I

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said, you know what, you might
not be able to travel the

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country anymore, but I
definitely have a following

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across the country.
So let's see, I can at least

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show the country your beautiful
pieces.

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And that was done.
I put a video out on TikTok and

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hugged Spinelli so tightly.
And people were checking in from

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California, Washington, Alabama,
just completely across the

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country.
And then the update on that is

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there was a buyer from Virginia.
So these are not shippable.

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They're too big.
And that I would have to ship

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them with cost thousands.
So a gentleman wanted one in

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Virginia.
So he's actually driving up from

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Virginia and picking it up on
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I already have the money in
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He sent me the money, the
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So he is coming, his name is
Brian is coming on Thursday to

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pick it up.
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from Ohio come and purchase one
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So of the three I've sold 22
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Both gentlemen are out of state
and what's this is so cute

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because this is so reflective of
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was going on and how exciting it
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So I'm yelling into the phone
with excitement and he's like,

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I'm really sorry.
I'm going to have to excuse

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myself, just not able to catch
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So now I have to wait until
Wednesday for him to come into

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the store for me to give him
like the entire update of all of

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the amazing things that have
happened that he really, he was

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able to hear that I sold 2, but
he just has no idea the

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magnitude of the story behind
selling the 2.

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So it's just been a really fun
journey and showcasing Mr.

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Spinelli.
And so the newspaper, I spoke

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with the newspaper and the
newspaper is interested in doing

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a story on Mr. Spinelli's coat
rats because of everything

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that's happened from Tiktok to
the buyers being out of state.

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And so it's just kind of this
really feel good story that just

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feels so good to be able to like
just be a tiny piece of the

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puzzle to be able to honor Mr.
Spinelli and all of his hard

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work that he put into his
woodworking.

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I love this.
Thank you, Amanda, for sharing.

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And I'm curious because I think
that there's a lesson in here

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for a lot of us just as far as,
like you said, you contacted the

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newspaper.
So I'm curious, like, did you

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know somebody there?
What was that like?

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How did you approach it?
Who did you find to talk to?

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How did that all go down?
Great question.

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Now keep in mind my our county
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in which Ida is part of is still
smaller than many other people's

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towns.
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So I actually, Lisa had run
stories on my store before the

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farmers market before, so I did
her contact information.

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So I directly reached out to her
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what's going on.
I think it would make a

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tremendous story, but more
importantly, I just want to

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honor Mr. Spinelli.
So is there something that we

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can do to showcase him?
And she was a absolutely.

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This is exactly what community
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We're going to run it.
So she's going to interview the

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buyers, She's going to interview
Mr. Spinelli.

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But now we realize it has to be
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And so it's just really nice
that she sees the the charm in

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the story, the impact of the
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And you know, she's just going
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to honor his legacy.
I just think that's great.

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That is great.
And what's also great.

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Am I hearing your chicks in the
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They're being so bad, they're,
they're mad 'cause I'm on the

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phone right now, you know,
instead of playing with them.

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So you have them in the house
with you.

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Yeah, at night they have to come
in the house 'cause they're

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still a little too little.
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If I wasn't in Michigan and the
weather wasn't, you know, 45 at

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night, I could keep them
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But there's still too babyish.
Okay, Sid, I think you had a

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question.
I did have a question.

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So Amanda, those aren't
chickens.

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As Chris Baglio said, those look
like dinosaurs.

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Thank you.
So I'm curious, I mean, First

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off, what a great story.
And kudos to you for putting

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that story out there, for having
the courage to do all the things

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that you do that are so unique
for your small town.

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And you know, Mark asked you a
question and I think the first

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thing that came to my mind was
kindness.

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It's at your soul, right,
Amanda, to be kind to anybody

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and everybody that walks into
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And this is just a real life
example of that.

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But how did you meet him?
Did he just randomly walk into

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your store?
Is he part of your community?

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How did you actually meet Mr.
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So this is sweet.
So actually the newspaper had

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ran a story back in the fall on
my store.

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And so he is one of the, when
they ran that story, every

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customer who came through that
store like that week with

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probably 70 plus because they're
the ones who are physically

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getting like physical papers
still, everyone else was kind of

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like seeing it online.
So I had an influx of people who

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just didn't see myself online.
And so they were coming in that

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week.
And so he came in back in the

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fall telling me about these and
he just was so precious and

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sweet that again, even though it
wasn't 100% what I thought I or

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at least wanted to give him and
honor him with some space in my

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store, that seemed the fairest
thing to do.

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So the week before last is when
he popped back in out of the

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blue and was like, are you, is
that offer still available if I

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bring them in?
And I said sure.

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And then Thursday, just like a
few days ago, Thursday is when

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he brought him in.
And that's how quickly all of

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this has like just spiraled into
something amazing.

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That's.
Awesome.

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Thank you, Amanda.
Appreciate it.

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And yeah, keep us posted if
there's any progress or any

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updates on this story.
It's really cool to hear.

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Thank.
You, I will it's been it's just

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been so much fun and probably I
said this last week, but

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probably of all my videos I've
put out on TikTok, I feel like

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this one has had the most impact
and connected with so many

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people on just a warm and good
feeling that I'm most proud of

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this video of all my videos,
hundreds and hundreds and

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hundreds, probably thousands at
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But this one, this just feels
and this is so I'm taking so

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much time and I apologize, but
there's something about these

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coat rats that after he left, I
like just cried.

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There was something about them
that I couldn't not do this for

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him.
And these coat rats, like you

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can almost when you feel these
coat rats, you can feel like all

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of the conversations he probably
had and has had when he was

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doing the work on this one.
And so to almost feel life in

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decades in these pieces is just
so impactful.

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So I don't know if I've honed
into something on the story

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behind the product or the
feeling in the product itself

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because so many people say when
they come in my store, I don't

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know, I just, I'm so connected
to this.

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And so to maybe get the story
of.

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Behind like what was in this
thing that they're buying that

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connected them might be
interesting.

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So it's been a very emotional
journey for me, if I'm being

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honest, even though it's just
been so exciting.

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Absolutely.
Yeah, Go ahead, Sid.

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So, Amanda, I think what you're
hitting on is, First off, he's

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90 years old, right?
Yeah.

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Dream to travel the.
World.

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Do you sell his coat racks?
He physically can't do that.

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And let's be clear, it is art.
And what I think what you're

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connecting to, at least what I'm
connecting to, is the craft ship

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of those pieces in the detail
and the time that it took.

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And when you showed the price, I
was like, that's all.

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That's not first thought.
Like that's all I'm just saying.

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Spent hours and hours and hours
working on these and they're

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beautiful and they tell a story
all by themselves and let's be

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clear, that type of
craftsmanship is dying and 3D

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printing is replacing it.
And so I mean you're helping to

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literally live this man's legacy
well beyond his life by staring

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his story, by sharing his
message and by selling his

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products and it all literally I
go back to this.

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It started with a simple act of
kindness.

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And imagine what would happen if
each and every one of us would

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have that in our heart every
day, how the world would.

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Absolutely it does.
In a world of AI, which is a

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wonderful tool.
I do think that we all have a

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craft that is very unique and
special to us.

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And so while maybe his was
really working with his hands

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and doing all of the attention
to detail, it makes me want to

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tell everyone like, no matter
what your craft is, big or

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small, just make sure it's
perfectly you.

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So that way your legacy will go
on and somebody will feel like I

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feel from Mr. Spinelli's Co
racks.

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And I'm looking at the comments
here, by the way, I'm sharing a

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link to the three coat racks
that Amanda started with in the

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store.
I shared it in the chat.

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I'll put it in the show notes as
well.

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And I'm reading all the comments
and such, such positivity.

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It's nice to see on TikTok and
social media a lot of all these

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positive remarks about the
craftsmanship, about the fact

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that they want to own one,
etcetera, etcetera.

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It's really cool and these are
really beautiful.

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What a great story, Amanda,
thank you for sharing.

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Like I said, keep us posted.
And yeah, I mean, just as far as

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when we talk about numbers on
social media, I'm glad I'm

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ending with that.
Didn't start with that, but man,

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this particular post I'm talking
about, it's got just likes

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alone. 3500 likes and over 400
comments and over 200 saves.

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I mean, this is definitely what
I would consider a viral video

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and I I applaud you for sharing
this story and getting it out

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there, Amanda.
All right, let's dig in to the

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mailbag.
And this is about summer plans.

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At least this first one is.
We'll see how much time we have

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for others today.
This comes from someone named

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Andrea or Andrea, depending on
how she pronounces it.

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Hey everyone, I'm going to take
a summer break with the podcast.

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I can hear some gurus right now.
I can hear their stomachs

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turning.
I was thinking of doing small

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social media clips of reflecting
back on certain episodes that I

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had higher downloads over the
summer to build my audience base

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specifically on social media in
order to gain a listener base.

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Anyone else do this?
Or what are your summer plans

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for your show if you do take the
break in the summer?

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Thank you all.
So thank you, Andrea.

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And let's talk about this.
And I said that, you know, I

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hear, I hear the the guru's
stomachs turning because I know

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there are there's a camp out
there that says, Hey, we want,

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you know, we want you posting
every week and there shouldn't

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be any breaks.
And look, as as much as I think

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that in an ideal world that's
the case, I just don't believe

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that that's realistic.
And I do believe that everybody

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deserves a break, especially if
you're somebody who's posting

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content consistently all the
time.

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And yes, there are ways that you
can still put out content and

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take a break.
Batch recording being one of the

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big things.
And we can talk about that if

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that's somebody's plans.
And I think that that's

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challenging for people as well
to make time in their schedule

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to do those batch recordings.
And then I know there are other

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people that feel like they don't
want to do the batch recordings

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because they feel like it's not
timely content anymore.

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Sometimes your content does
depend on the time of the year.

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And if you're putting out
content that was three months

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old in the summer, it may not
translate as well, depending on

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what you're talking about.
So all right, I see lots of

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people wanting to chime in.
And I'm going to go to Yvonne

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first because Yvonne joined us
on stage from the audience.

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So let's go to her first.
Yvonne, good morning.

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Welcome back to the stage.
What do you want to add to this?

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Good morning.
I am getting ready to go on an

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extended summer and I'm going to
be not producing for 9 weeks and

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I always take a summer break and
I do see a dip in downloads that

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I kind of have to recover from.
So I'll admit to that right off

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the bat.
But I'm taking a new approach to

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it this year.
I am throwing some new intros at

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the beginning of old episodes,
letting people know that I'm on

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break.
They didn't want to leave them

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hanging.
And I'm only putting those

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episodes out every other week
while I'm off.

447
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And I'm will be putting out
extra social media to let people

448
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,680
know that the broadcast is on
break, that I'm making big plans

449
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,920
for next season, etcetera,
etcetera.

450
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,920
And this is to allow me space
and time to do that.

451
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840
So we'll see how it goes.
Well, thank you.

452
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,920
And what brought you to that
decision of nine weeks off and

453
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,880
how much longer is that than you
usually do?

454
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Life brought me to that decision
and burnout is definitely a part

455
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,600
of it.
So my kiddo is graduating from

456
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,680
high school and I'm in.
I'm actually this week guys is

457
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,920
my five year anniversary for the
podcast.

458
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,840
Oh, congratulations.
Thank you very much.

459
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,880
So I'm doing AI did a solo
episode that's going to be

460
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,040
coming out tomorrow celebrating
that, reflecting on what I've

461
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,400
learned from five years of
podcasting, etcetera.

462
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,800
And then the last podcast of
this season is going to go out

463
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:07,200
July 2nd and I'm coming back in
September after we get him off

464
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,600
to college.
So it's all just part of

465
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:18,880
relishing and savoring this last
summer with him home and living

466
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,880
life as I'm on for a bit until
until we get him out the door

467
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,800
and see from there.
So.

468
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Yeah, yeah.
And congratulations to your son

469
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,800
again.
And I was just thinking, as you

470
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,520
said, it's your five year
anniversary of the podcast.

471
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,440
I'm guessing this is probably a
big five year anniversary for a

472
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:44,200
lot of podcasters because of the
pandemic and that the how many

473
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,840
podcasts actually launched
during the pandemic?

474
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Yeah, that's cool.
And thank you for and I will

475
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,360
also say, I think that there are
probably a lot of podcasters who

476
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,920
started five years ago that
can't say they've been doing

477
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,640
this for five years.
So kudos to you for sticking

478
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,360
with it because I think that a
lot of people just did it to

479
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,000
fill some time and then just
walked away from something that

480
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,560
could have been a beautiful
thing.

481
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,560
So thank you for sticking with
it and serving your audience so

482
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,240
well.
Yvonne and I, I did say there

483
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,600
were other people that had their
hands up about their summer

484
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,360
plans.
But Nick, I saw, yeah, I saw

485
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,960
your hand come up.
So did you want to ask or add on

486
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,840
to what Yvonne's talking about?
Yeah.

487
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,080
I wanted to ask Yvonne the
strategy of re recording the

488
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,480
intros.
And as you were talking about

489
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,440
that, I was thinking how you
could do a free roll like

490
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,360
dynamic add in those.
So I was wondering, have you

491
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:37,240
given that any thought or is
there a specific reason why

492
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,960
you're choosing to re record
every single one of those that

493
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,360
you're going to really?
I think it's something that was

494
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,160
mentioned in here at some point
and I would was the idea that

495
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600
they, you know, at least Apple
Podcasts, right, stops pushing

496
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:58,160
out your podcast if you don't
have something posted every two

497
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,240
weeks.
And I'm mistaken about that.

498
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,280
So so I'm basically looking to
do the bare minimum while I'm

499
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,000
gone, get it all scheduled
beforehand.

500
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,360
I am going to have emails
batched and ready to roll for

501
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,440
the summer as well.
And those will go out still go

502
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,640
out weekly to my e-mail list.
It's also to keep people in the

503
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,040
habit.
I want to see if I can avoid the

504
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,080
dip in listening that I looked
at.

505
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,960
When I go back and look at stats
each year, I can see that little

506
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,400
dip around August is usually
when I take the break and see if

507
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,760
I can just level that out a
little bit because I feel like I

508
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,360
end up having to regroup through
the year.

509
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,760
And then I go back on break
again and things dip again.

510
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Thank you, Yvonne.
And I think Nick is asking a

511
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,160
little bit more about your
intros specifically, right?

512
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,920
Well, OK, so, so yes.
And so putting the intros on it,

513
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,560
they're going to have a new
episode number and they will

514
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,120
officially be a, you know, in
the eyes of Apple, at least a

515
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,080
new episode with new content
because there will be an an

516
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,960
intro at the beginning that
says, hey, I'm on break.

517
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,880
And and who's your podcast
hosting provider, Pod Bean?

518
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,520
I think Pod Bean has dynamic
ads, which is I think is what

519
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,640
Nick was talking about.
Where?

520
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,520
Yeah.
Tell me more about that because

521
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,480
I'm I'm not sure I thought.
Yeah, so dynamic ads, and I'm

522
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,920
glad you asked because I'm sure
there are people listening that

523
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,240
aren't sure what we're talking
about.

524
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,440
Dynamic ads are recorded ads you
can upload to your podcast

525
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,120
hosting provider.
And I'm using Buzz Sprout as an

526
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120
example because I'm more
familiar with Buzz Sprout.

527
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,760
What you can do is you can tell
Buzz Sprout to play this

528
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,840
particular recording either at
the beginning of the episode,

529
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,680
the middle, or the end.
And so I think Nick is

530
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,360
suggesting what you could do is
record those intros and attach

531
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,240
it to the old episodes that
you're re uploading in an effort

532
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,680
to not have to cut out the
original intro, put on a new

533
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,240
one, etcetera.
This would automatically play it

534
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,560
when somebody presses play.
It would automatically play at

535
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,280
the start of your podcast.
And it would also play on all of

536
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,920
your past podcasts, so if
anybody lands on old episodes

537
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,160
that you're not releasing
throughout the summer, they'd

538
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,560
get the little update saying
hey, taking a summer break.

539
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160
But I hope you enjoyed the
episode kind of thing.

540
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,920
That's why I was curious because
you can't just re upload the

541
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640
episode as a new episode without
changing it.

542
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,240
At least I've done that.
I don't think it messed with my

543
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,960
numbering.
It doesn't even have to be

544
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,560
necessarily an ad.
There's no sponsor necessarily.

545
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,560
It's almost like you are pending
a specific recording to each of

546
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,400
your episodes.
So if you wanted it to be a

547
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,280
sponsor, it can be a sponsor.
Or like what you're talking

548
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,920
about letting everyone know
you're taking a a break for the

549
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,880
summer, you're going to be
coming back On this date.

550
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,920
You just record that little
introduction and then it would

551
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,040
attach it to every single one of
your episodes for you.

552
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,520
Might save you time if you're
not making a episode specific

553
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120
intro for each episode that
you're going to release in the

554
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,240
summer.
I did end up doing episode

555
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,440
specific but really interesting
interesting.

556
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,240
So who knows, maybe next year.
If you're curious about it more,

557
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,560
Yvonne, I'm happy to talk to you
outside of the podcasting

558
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,480
morning chat and walk you
through some of it, see if it's

559
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,120
something that you want to do.
Sid, did you want to add on to

560
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,760
this?
Yeah, I did.

561
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Just real quickly, Yvonne, if
you wanted to, you could go to

562
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,120
my podcast, The Trend Report and
click play and listen to the 1st

563
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,240
30 seconds and you'll hear a
dynamic ad that I inserted at

564
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,160
the beginning of selected
episodes to run for 30 days.

565
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,440
That is asking my audience to
connect with me and either

566
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400
complete a former schedule time
to for me to survey them.

567
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,640
It's a really great example of
how to use, even though it's

568
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,040
called an ad, it's not really an
ad.

569
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,120
It's just me talking for
probably even 15 seconds.

570
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,480
So you can at least see an
example of how I'm using using

571
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,040
it that might give you some
inspiration to what make us

572
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280
talk.
That is super cool yes, I I love

573
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,640
that because that is something I
can do to to talk up my play

574
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,400
shop and different things like
that.

575
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,560
That's awesome.
Thank you guys so much.

576
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
You're welcome.
Amanda, what did you want to

577
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,840
add?
I just, I'm going back to that

578
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,440
original mailbag question about
the taking the breaks and and

579
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,960
that type of stuff.
I personally, as a listener, I

580
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,560
respect people having to take
breaks and I would rather have

581
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,640
them take a eight week break
then try to come up with eight

582
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840
weeks of inferior content for me
to listen to.

583
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,120
I don't want to click on the
next episode and go.

584
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,080
That just was like a space
holder and I feel like I can

585
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
tell almost immediately and
it's, I don't mind having a

586
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,600
refresher of an older episode
that seems relevant, but so

587
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,920
often people pull their best
episode, which isn't necessarily

588
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,040
the most relevant episode.
So I think if you're going to

589
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,160
relaunch some older episodes,
you just surely have to make

590
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,560
sure that it's a good topic that
people absolutely will want to

591
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,920
listen to and that it's 100%
still relevant.

592
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,240
Otherwise, just take the break.
I don't think anyone holds

593
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,960
anyone accountable to having to
have a new, you know, podcast

594
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,840
come out every single week as
long as you've notified your

595
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,480
listeners what's happening for
that break and the length of it.

596
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,400
So let me ask you, Amanda, do
you feel like you feel that way

597
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,360
because you are a content
creator yourself?

598
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,840
If you weren't, and this might
be a hard question to answer,

599
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,000
but if you weren't, do you think
you'd feel the same way?

600
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,520
I think if I weren't, I would
still feel the same way because

601
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,920
what I'm consuming, I'm not
consuming as a podcaster, I'm

602
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,000
really consuming as a consumer.
And so it drives me bonkers when

603
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,080
I go, oh, that was just an
absolute waste of my 45 minutes.

604
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,719
Yeah, well, that I can
definitely relate to.

605
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,679
You know, so it's, I feel pretty
passionate that it is as a

606
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,400
consumer as opposed to a
podcaster, because I give people

607
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,760
a lot of grace and what their
podcast ends up looking like.

608
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,800
Because just because it's not
for me doesn't mean it's not

609
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,200
somebody.
So I don't really judge that as

610
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,000
much as I just, if I'm already a
listener, I want it to stay at

611
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,320
the same level as what I've been
listening to for that particular

612
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,240
podcast.
OK.

613
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:12,840
And then I see Sid had
something.

614
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,840
Go ahead, Sid.
One of my favorite hosted, this

615
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,640
is called At the Table with
Patrick Lantoni and he announced

616
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,800
that he was taking a break and
they were going to take the fall

617
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,920
off.
This was in August and they took

618
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,240
the fall off.
They took the winter off and

619
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,640
didn't come back until May,
right?

620
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,160
And so it was a really extended.
So he told us he was taking the

621
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,160
fall, but he took a longer than
that, which kind of made me

622
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,960
disinterested.
But when he came back and he

623
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,800
talked to his first episode
back, he didn't find any details

624
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,080
about why he took the time off.
And then the show had completely

625
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,040
changed.
He had a whole group of Co hosts

626
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,080
that were there with him.
And I learned all this later

627
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,920
because a friend of mine heard
him speak at a convention and

628
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,040
but he had actually relocated
from San Francisco to Nashville.

629
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,240
And that's why all the Co hosts
are gone because not everybody

630
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,760
moved with him.
And like, there was this huge

631
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,960
dynamic shift not only in the
show itself, but even in the

632
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,840
content.
And honestly, to a degree, he's

633
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,400
lost me as a listener because he
didn't really communicate.

634
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,160
So I think that my message there
is communicate what you're

635
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,680
doing.
And if you do take longer, tell

636
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,680
your audience when you come back
what happened and why, and don't

637
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,680
leave them hanging and guessing
and speculating, at least in my

638
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,080
opinion.
Thank you, Sid, and thank you

639
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,840
for the pause at the end.
I think also when you're

640
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,640
communicating a way you can
continue to communicate.

641
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,640
And to some this may be obvious,
to others, maybe not.

642
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Continue to use social media and
post in your say, if you're on

643
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,920
Instagram or TikTok or man, I
guess most platforms have

644
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,520
stories now.
So post to your stories, what

645
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,040
you're doing on your break,
right?

646
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,040
If you're on vacation shows,
show us what you're doing.

647
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,480
Check in with your audience.
Let them know that.

648
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,840
Yeah, I'm still around.
It's just the podcast is on

649
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,760
pause for right now.
I want to check in with Dan.

650
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,720
Dan, did you want to add to your
summer break plans?

651
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Not my summer break plans.
I did want to add to the

652
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,840
conversation, so I appreciate
it.

653
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,680
I, I just wanted to say, you
know, I, I just posted an

654
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,960
episode this morning about
discipline being the shortcut.

655
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,560
And I posted that because I was
thinking about so many

656
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:42,240
businesses, so many creators
tend to allow distractions if

657
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,480
you will get in the way during
especially summer months or

658
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,840
holiday seasons.
And I think there's tremendous

659
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,600
value to be had for those that
are disciplined enough to at

660
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,360
least bash their content so that
they're not missing those

661
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,520
periods of time.
More opportunity for those

662
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,480
people that are consistent
filling up.

663
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,920
Summer is 1 big one because
family vacation, the schools

664
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,280
being out so kids are at home.
It's really easy for people to

665
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,680
get distracted and slow down.
So those are my thoughts.

666
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,120
Yeah.
Thank you, Dan.

667
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,600
I know a few years ago when I
was really digging into my

668
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,120
personal development, personal
growth journey, I was spending

669
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,600
time focusing on that word
discipline and what I came to, I

670
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,040
feel like if you have
discipline, you don't need

671
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,680
motivation anymore.
If you are able to create that

672
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,960
routine, to create that
discipline, you know, a lot of

673
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,560
us are searching for the
motivation to do the thing.

674
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,320
But if you have discipline, you
don't need the motivation

675
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,760
anymore.
And that was a real, I don't

676
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,160
know for me, when I kind of put
those connected those dots, it

677
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,160
was a real moment for me.
And it's one that I'm still just

678
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,720
fully transparent.
It's one that I'm still working

679
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:07,000
on both my discipline and
motivation.

680
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,120
I'm with you there, Dan.
Thank you.

681
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,880
All right, who else would like
to share what's something that

682
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,520
you've tried during the summer
or something that you've done

683
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,920
during the summer in the past?
Or what are you planning on

684
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,760
doing now this summer for your
podcast?

685
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Let's help some others who are
maybe on the fence about that

686
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,440
who would like to take this.
Janae, you're on stage.

687
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Good morning to you.
Do you want to share a little

688
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,320
bit about summer plans?
Morning Mark and Amanda.

689
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,720
Actually everybody on stage said
my dad.

690
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,960
I could definitely say that,
yes, I am taking a summer break

691
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,120
where I'm not recording anything
during the summer, but doesn't

692
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,160
mean that the podcast taking a
break because he has something

693
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,720
in the backlog.
And I'm laughing because, you

694
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:56,720
know, that's a good problem to
have, but also as a marketing

695
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,160
effort is going to continue to,
you know, focus.

696
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,080
I'm taking a break from my solo
episodes.

697
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120
I'm going to talk about that on
the podcast.

698
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,360
Hey, taking a break from the
solo episodes.

699
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,920
I'm going to bring back the
learn, but people will still

700
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,480
continue to listen to the
interviews that I've had in the

701
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,400
past.
I guess it's in the past now.

702
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,600
So that's my summer break plan
where I'm taking a break from

703
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,000
recording but not from
publishing.

704
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,120
Thank you.
And there was also something you

705
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,920
said in there, even if you're
somebody like Janae, who I don't

706
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,720
know how many are like Janae
having so dozens and dozens and

707
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:37,520
dozens of kind of episodes in
the hopper, if you will.

708
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,520
I still, when I think about it,
even with batching, taking a

709
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,160
break from your podcast doesn't
always mean you are fully off

710
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,360
because it could require you to
upload and schedule those

711
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,880
episodes.
Although if you're scheduling

712
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,120
them ahead of time, that should
solve that problem.

713
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,800
But promoting it, that takes
time in your time.

714
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,720
And there you probably want to
have a plan for that too.

715
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,240
And yeah, again, you could
schedule out in this talk about

716
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,280
discipline.
You could schedule out all of

717
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,080
your promotional social media
posts so that you don't have to

718
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,760
think about it, but that is
something to factor in there.

719
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,520
There are other elements.
There are lots of moving parts

720
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,240
when it comes to podcasting and
if you take a break from one,

721
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:27,960
some of the others still may
need some attention.

722
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,440
All right, does anyone else want
to add anything about their

723
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,600
summer?
What's something that you want

724
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,040
to do this summer?
And if not, then I'll go to the

725
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,120
next question in the mailbag.
All right, it looks like I'm

726
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,480
going to do that.
So this next one, let me pull

727
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,880
out the mailbag here.
This next one comes from Bob W

728
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,840
because I don't know if I should
say last names.

729
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,800
They didn't tell me whether or
not that was OK.

730
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Says I'm thinking about
including a shout out to another

731
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,120
podcast during one of my
episodes, obviously with a

732
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,240
reciprocal arrangement, the aim
being to attract more listeners.

733
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Does anybody do this?
What are best practices?

734
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,720
Amanda's hands up, let's go to
you first.

735
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,360
So we did the same.
It was very successful.

736
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,400
We did it with Johnny and back
of the cereal box.

737
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,880
We felt like our listeners were
one in the same in many ways.

738
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:25,640
So we felt like it was a a good
swap that honored our listeners

739
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,480
and potentially found some new
listeners for each of us.

740
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:36,880
And one of our most amazing VIP
listeners came from doing that.

741
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,200
And I'm thinking like to think
we wouldn't have Dave as one of

742
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,360
our listeners if we wouldn't
maybe swapped.

743
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,720
So it's really fun and I think
it can be very effective.

744
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,760
But I do think you have to have
the right exchange.

745
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,640
I don't think it has to be
identical.

746
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,480
It just needs to have maybe the
same audiences.

747
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,960
So I think as long as you take
that into consideration, it can

748
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,320
be very good.
And we just did it at the very

749
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,600
beginning of our podcast where
we kind of Johnny came in and

750
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,880
said, Hey, you're listening to
the song.

751
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,040
So up shout out I'm Johnny.
You know, he kind of went into

752
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,920
our podcast a little bit, but he
was kind of doing a read for us,

753
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,560
but it was very clearly back the
cereal box and you know, red.

754
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,760
So I think it went really,
really well and I do it again.

755
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:21,240
OK, there you go.
There's a vote for doing it.

756
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:24,640
Go ahead, Yvonne.
I've joined recently a

757
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:30,160
podcasting group for a bunch of
podcasts that focus on women of

758
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,840
a certain age.
And we are Co promoting each

759
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,600
other on a, We're taking a
partner from the group once in

760
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,160
like each month and we are
rotating and Co promoting each

761
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,920
other during that month.
And that involves a little shout

762
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,160
out at the end of a couple of
episodes of the month each month

763
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:59,040
and as well as e-mail shout outs
weekly.

764
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,920
And that's been pretty cool so
far.

765
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,440
So that's new and I haven't
really seen how that's going to

766
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,160
make any difference at this
point.

767
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,320
So I feel like I'm serving my
audience doing it.

768
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Thank you, Yvonne.
Another good idea.

769
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,960
I love that.
And Dan, coming to you, what say

770
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,880
you?
I wanted to say that I love this

771
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,320
idea.
I like to think of it more like

772
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960
affiliate relationships, where
it doesn't have to necessarily

773
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:31,640
be reciprocal, but if there's
something I'm enjoying and I

774
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,680
want to share it with people,
why not?

775
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,520
It doesn't hurt me to share
something of value with someone

776
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000
else.
And I just did that on my

777
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,920
episode that published this
morning talking about the

778
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,240
Empowered Podcasting Conference
coming up.

779
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Awesome.
Thank you, Dan.

780
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,040
And I was just thinking about
Amanda's share and one of the

781
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,640
things she said that I just went
right by and I want to make sure

782
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,120
we go back to it really quick.
The idea of make sure that if

783
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,680
you are just swapping that these
are audiences that are aligned

784
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,400
for multiple reasons.
One for you, for you and your

785
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680
podcast, right?
You want to make sure you get

786
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,240
the most bang for your buck.
So you want to make sure that

787
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:16,880
this podcast audience is the
kind of audience that's going to

788
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,640
want to come and listen to your
content.

789
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,560
And because if not, it's kind of
a waste of time.

790
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,440
But also, I think that if you
are promoting another podcast

791
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,200
that doesn't align with your
audience.

792
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,800
And if you're especially if
you're doing that somewhat

793
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,960
regularly, I think that you're
going to end up kind of annoying

794
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,880
your audience after a while.
And, and you're also going to

795
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,440
diminish some of the trust that
you're building with them, even

796
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,240
if you do it with the best of
intentions.

797
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,200
If you're sending them to
places, whether it's a podcast,

798
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,920
whether it's a product or a
service that they could could

799
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,240
care less about, couldn't care
less about, you're going to hurt

800
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:01,480
that trust between you and them.
So you always want to consider

801
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,520
whatever it is you're sharing.
If you're making a

802
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,840
recommendation, let them know,
or you could, if you're making a

803
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,720
recommendation because it's just
something that is of interest to

804
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,240
you, just let them know.
You know, this may not be

805
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,560
something interesting to you,
but I just wanted to share this

806
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,000
with you.
I think that open communication

807
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,960
is really important.
If you're going to share things

808
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,560
that doesn't always jive connect
with your audience.

809
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Sharon, good morning.
Welcome back to the stage.

810
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:33,600
Mark, two things I wanted to
revisit the break, whether it be

811
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,280
a summer break or what may have
you.

812
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,800
This is what I'm going to say
that may not be popular with

813
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,840
everybody.
That's OK.

814
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,360
I'm coming from this perspective
when we're first starting

815
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,960
anything, I don't think break
should be really a part of what

816
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,120
we're doing publicly.
In other words, if we have to

817
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,160
batch to ensure that we're
showing up and the beginning of

818
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,000
building a brand, then that's
what we have to do.

819
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,360
But I don't think it's a good
idea to take breaks.

820
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,160
Now, if we already have an
established brand, then that's

821
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,600
another story.
So that's just my two cents

822
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,440
about it, for whatever it's
worth.

823
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,680
OK, and #2 I just want to let
everyone know, I don't know if

824
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:21,840
you are aware, but Clubhouse now
has a captions feature and I'm

825
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:27,520
listening to the conversation
with all the speakers and I can

826
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,400
actually see the words at the
bottom of the screen.

827
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,640
And that is a very convenient
feature.

828
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:34,200
When I look down every now and
then, I'm like, OK, what did

829
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,800
Amanda say?
What did Mark say?

830
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,840
And I can look.
I mean, it goes pretty fast.

831
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,960
So you have to keep your eye on
it for the most part whenever

832
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,360
you want to hear what someone is
saying.

833
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,880
So I just wanted to just run
that by everyone and ask if

834
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,240
you're using that.
Thank you.

835
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Thank you.
I had heard about it, but I

836
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,240
have, I have not seen it yet.
And I think it's an awesome

837
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,000
feature both for those that are
hard of hearing and like you're

838
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,240
saying, for those of us just
trying to go back or keep up

839
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:05,080
with the conversation, it's an
extra way, an additional way to

840
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,880
do that.
I think that's a, that's a great

841
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,560
feature, a much needed feature
here.

842
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,520
So I'm glad that they've
incorporated that.

843
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,720
And I'm with you on what you
were saying about taking breaks.

844
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,080
And I think what I heard you say
is particularly if you're early

845
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,560
on in the game, if let's say
just for an example, you're

846
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,440
within your first year of
podcasting, I think I, I'm on

847
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,360
the same page with you that it's
important to keep going and plan

848
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,040
for those breaks.
And if you are doing that early

849
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,080
on, I think that you're setting
yourself up for success because

850
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,280
you're building that habit of
what am I going to do when this

851
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,080
break is coming or what am I
going to do when I when there's

852
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,400
an unexpected break that I have
to take.

853
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Having that backup plan really
will save you in the long run

854
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,000
and help build up your success
down the road.

855
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,960
And I also think, I think that
it serves your audience well

856
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,280
too, especially in the very
beginning, because you don't

857
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,880
want them to feel like, when am
I going to get the next episode

858
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,680
or are they going to take a
break again, You want to build

859
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,480
up that trust early on.
And I do believe that then down

860
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,280
the road, if you do have to take
a break, unexpected or not, I

861
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,920
think your audience is going to
be more forgiving about that.

862
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,600
I think just the Sharon's point,
I think that is also a really

863
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,880
good factor when you're
considering starting a podcast.

864
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,920
When you're with Sharon's point,
are you going to go live when

865
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,280
you do your podcast or you
recording when you do your

866
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,240
podcast?
Because person I we, we don't

867
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:43,840
have that, that, you know,
ability to go live if we're not

868
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,720
there.
So I think that might swing

869
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,360
somebody, whether they go live
or if they just do recording

870
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,440
when they start their podcast
with that in mind, because you

871
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,640
can't really batch record if
you're a live type of concept.

872
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,240
So just keep that in mind if for
those who haven't start their

873
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:01,880
podcast yet.
Yeah.

874
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,640
Thank you, Amanda.
Appreciate that.

875
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,200
And Sharon, thank you again.
Appreciate it.

876
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,880
And I'm really glad that you are
joining the conversation more up

877
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,360
here on stage lately.
Really, really enjoy that when

878
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,080
when our audience that I see
frequently listening coming up

879
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,280
here and more frequently and
joining us.

880
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,320
Yeah, Janae, go ahead.
Great.

881
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,840
Point what Amanda said.
You know, if you're doing a live

882
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,120
production, if you're not there,
you're not there.

883
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:34,560
But if you wanted to still be
live and not be there, there are

884
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,520
features on stream yard or
restream that lets you do that

885
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,640
where you can pre record
something and say, hey, go live

886
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,960
with this video on this day on
this time.

887
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,480
And you can just be sitting in
the comments answering back if

888
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,080
you want just another option.
Yeah.

889
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,240
Thank you, Janae.
I appreciate that too.

890
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:59,720
And what I'm going to do here is
with this other question we were

891
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:06,080
answering about swaps, podcast
swaps and endorsing, promoting

892
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,040
other podcasts.
I'll just throw out best

893
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,520
practices.
In my opinion, you want to have

894
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,040
the, what we've already said,
the right alignment.

895
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You want these podcasts that
you're going to swap with to be

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in the right alignment, right
audience, etcetera.

897
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,000
You want them to be or sound and
sound genuine.

898
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,920
Don't just mention the podcast.
Hey, this is a podcast that I

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00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,240
think you'll listen to.
Check it out, you know, share

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00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:38,640
your why you're personally
enjoying that podcast or why you

901
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,920
find value in it because I'm
going to say the the buzzword

902
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,680
authentic recommendations build
a lot of trust.

903
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,400
Have a clear call to action.
Just like anything else that we

904
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,440
talk about in podcasting or
social media, encourage your

905
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,160
audience to to check out the
podcast.

906
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Make sure you're telling them
where to go.

907
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,240
Don't just mention the name of
the podcast.

908
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:06,680
Give them specifics.
And Speaking of specifics, I

909
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,720
would say make sure you clearly
define the specifics of this

910
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:14,760
arrangement with that other
podcaster, like the timing, what

911
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,080
episodes it's going to be
mentioned in, the language

912
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,440
you're going to use, etcetera.
So you can avoid any

913
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,960
misunderstandings,
misunderstandings and make it a,

914
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,880
a fair and fun way to do it.
And then the part that I don't

915
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,160
know many more people are doing,
make sure you're measuring the

916
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,960
results.
Figure out if there is a way

917
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,040
that you can track this.
Maybe you can do a unique code

918
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,040
or a link, right?
The link you could do anything.

919
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:50,160
You could use a free service
like Bitly bit dot LY because

920
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,760
what you'll that'll do is it'll
shorten that link for you, but

921
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,880
also it'll track how many clicks
you're getting.

922
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,880
So you could make a specific
Bitly link or short link with

923
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,800
another service that you can
then track and see if people

924
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,760
from that other audience are
actually clicking and coming to

925
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,360
your podcast.
Those would be some of the tips

926
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,880
I would give.
We are back tomorrow.

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00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,320
Got to wrap it up.
We are at the top of the hour.

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We're back tomorrow, 7:00 AM
Eastern.

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00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,240
We're going to cover all the
podcast headlines around the

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00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,880
world and there are some big
ones including Marc Maron in the

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00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,480
news.
We will share that info tomorrow

932
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,520
along with lots of other things
like events coming up,

933
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,240
podcasting job opportunities,
and all the ongoings around this

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00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,840
crazy world of podcasting.
So come join us tomorrow and for

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00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,640
that matter, any Monday through
Friday.

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We do it live here on Clubhouse.
You can get that information in

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00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,720
the show notes.
And if you can't make it live,

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00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,480
you can always find us on your
favorite podcast platform.

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00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,120
So until tomorrow, make it a
great day everybody take care.