315 - Spark New Life into your Podcast with our Fresh Ideas!

1
00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,040
Good morning podcasting morning
Chat.

2
00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:14,160
Today is Monday, June 2nd, 2025,
and today we're digging back

3
00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,120
into the mailbag, starting with
a question from a newish

4
00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,120
podcaster.
Her question Which one thing

5
00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,560
every podcaster should try at
least once.

6
00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,280
So if you're listening live on
Clubhouse or YouTube, hit the

7
00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080
share button, bottom left hand
side of the screen and share it.

8
00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,320
However, Clubhouse lets you.
And if you're listening via

9
00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,600
podcast, please share this
episode with a fellow podcaster.

10
00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,160
And now give us about 30 seconds
and we'll get things rolling.

11
00:00:43,440 --> 00:01:22,460
Thanks for being here.
Good morning again, podcasting,

12
00:01:22,460 --> 00:01:24,740
Morning chat.
Thank you for being here.

13
00:01:24,820 --> 00:01:31,500
I am your host, Mark Ronik, and
on stage with me we have John.

14
00:01:32,060 --> 00:01:34,300
I got distracted because a lot
of things are going on.

15
00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:37,580
I'll explain in a minute.
Jonathan Howard, Nick Nahlbach,

16
00:01:37,780 --> 00:01:40,920
producer Ashley Feller, Sid
Meadows.

17
00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,040
Ah, and there she is, Dr. Faye,
who's lately somehow, all of a

18
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,720
sudden, when she comes in the
room, appears in the audience,

19
00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,520
not up on stage with us.
I'm not sure what's going on.

20
00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,320
That it's a clubhouse thing.
I guess so.

21
00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,680
And then I saw half of the team
popping in, popping out of

22
00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,800
clubhouse.
I think there are some glitches

23
00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,840
that a lot of us are continuing
to experience.

24
00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,240
Yep, another one just popped
out.

25
00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,199
Jonathan popped out, popped back
in.

26
00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,360
We'll see.
I guess it's a Monday.

27
00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,120
This is par for the course
sometimes, I guess.

28
00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,640
So today, before we get into the
mailbag, couple of little

29
00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:24,280
things.
One, if you've been following my

30
00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,080
journey here on the podcasting
morning chat, one of the things

31
00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,320
I do extracurricularly is I take
improv classes.

32
00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:38,800
I finished a month or two ago,
Improv One O 1 and Improv One O

33
00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,680
2 has actually already begun.
I had to miss the first couple

34
00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,680
of classes because of my
vacation, but they great.

35
00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,800
They were gracious enough to
allow me to join in couple of

36
00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,080
classes late.
So I'm starting that today and

37
00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,560
really excited Improv One O 2.
It's I guess just really more in

38
00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,280
depth short form improv and I'll
share more once I really know

39
00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,520
more about what we'll be doing
there.

40
00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,960
And then if I am enjoying this
and want to continue on, then I

41
00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,520
would join Improv 201 and that's
going to be long form

42
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,200
improvisation, which I have no
experience really whatsoever.

43
00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,360
I don't even, I don't know if
I've even seen a show other than

44
00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,960
some unscripted TV shows.
I don't think I've ever seen an

45
00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,760
A full, full length improv show
before.

46
00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,120
Were you gonna say something,
Dr. Yeah, it's really fun.

47
00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,040
And you know what?
There is a show that happened

48
00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,520
this past season and it took
place in a courtroom and

49
00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:53,040
everyone was in on it except for
one person who was sitting in

50
00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,640
the jury.
Pool.

51
00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,720
Do you know about this?
I do know about it, yes.

52
00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,680
Yeah.
So I think that could be

53
00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,200
considered, I mean, they had a,
they had an outline of where

54
00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,440
they were going with it, but I
think that could be considered a

55
00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,280
long form.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

56
00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,800
Because yeah, everybody but the
one person, that one juror is in

57
00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,920
on it and they've got to act and
go along with whatever happens.

58
00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,640
Now, granted, there's there is
somewhat of a script involved

59
00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,600
because they've got to make this
feel and seem like a real court

60
00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,200
case.
But yeah, there that's

61
00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880
definitely a form of long form
improv for sure.

62
00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,760
And Nick reminded us here in the
chat.

63
00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,120
It's called jury duty.
If you're interested in checking

64
00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,880
that out.
I believe it where I saw it was

65
00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,280
Amazon Prime.
So it makes.

66
00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,320
Up that Prime or Freevie?
Oh, OK.

67
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,600
Freevie is, it's a, it's an
original to Freevie.

68
00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,760
Awesome, awesome.
OK, cool.

69
00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,280
So yeah, I'll keep everyone
posted on that.

70
00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:56,080
And by the way, I wanted, I was
hoping Amanda Sharp would join

71
00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,640
us today because she filled us
in a bit last week with some

72
00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,880
TikTok content she put out
there.

73
00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,520
And I wanted to follow up
because it some of it has now

74
00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,440
gotten some local TV coverage.
But she said she'll be here

75
00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,200
tomorrow.
So we will talk more about that

76
00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,120
TikTok video of hers, how it
went viral and how it got in the

77
00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,400
hands of local television.
So stay tuned for that.

78
00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,160
And also, before we kick things
off, Nick wanted to come to you.

79
00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240
How are things going with the
new house?

80
00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,720
I happen to know a little bit.
I know that you are quite, at

81
00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,160
least you appear to be quite the
handyman doing a lot of

82
00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,400
handiwork in this new house.
How are things going with that?

83
00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:48,360
I don't know if I they have my
handyman, but it's not long made

84
00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,760
a lot of progress.
I was sent in yesterday.

85
00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,720
We're laying flooring down for
one of the, I guess it'll be a

86
00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,640
new bedroom.
It wasn't a bedroom before, but

87
00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,360
it was a pretty large room in
the basement that we're turning

88
00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,840
into a bedroom.
So we're finishing up that, you

89
00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:11,720
know, add another little room
that'll kind of be a little kind

90
00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,720
of area.
When's the studio going to be

91
00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,440
built?
Because that's got to happen at

92
00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,680
some point, right?
Yeah, that's going to happen

93
00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:21,800
this weekend, actually.
Emily's parents are coming,

94
00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,680
visiting from Minnesota, and I'm
probably going to take the time

95
00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,440
when they have the ability to
watch her to put together the

96
00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,360
rest of my studio.
The problem is that normally I'm

97
00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,560
like doing all this stuff like
during Ari's naps and the office

98
00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,960
that I'm going to be setting up
is right next door to her room,

99
00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,840
so I don't want to be hammered
and join the walls and things

100
00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,360
like that was just sleeping.
So I have to be strategic with

101
00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,440
what I'm doing it.
Yeah, I hear you.

102
00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,120
And you're going to have to make
sure that room's pretty

103
00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,320
soundproof because you don't
want, once it's all ready, you

104
00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,720
don't want to wake her up while
you're recording stuff and doing

105
00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,160
doing this.
Yeah.

106
00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,400
But we're making it.
We're getting there.

107
00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,280
Nice.
We did, however, have because of

108
00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:08,560
the house had been sitting by
itself for a while.

109
00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,560
There's a bathtub right above
the kitchen and the drain was

110
00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280
leaking.
So we ended up having I, I, I

111
00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,800
don't know if you were here when
I was talking about this, end up

112
00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,280
having a leak at someone.
They cut a big hole out in our

113
00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,120
ceiling.
So right now it's it's all

114
00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,920
cleaned up, everything's good,
but we just have a giant gaping

115
00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,480
hole in our ceiling so.
That I can definitely relate to

116
00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,840
that because if you recall
before I left for vacation, we

117
00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,040
had our we had a leak of our
own.

118
00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,920
Really, it was a pretty much a
pipe burst kind of situation

119
00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,520
because the pipes got clogged
due to some poor use of our

120
00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,680
garbage disposal.
And yeah, I've got a nice big

121
00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,880
hole in my ceiling as well that
I have to tend to now that I'm

122
00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,520
back from vacation.
That's no fun.

123
00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,280
But hey, let's get into some
podcasting talk, shall we?

124
00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,520
And today's topic at least
starts with something from our

125
00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,120
mailbag.
We'll see if we can dig into

126
00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,080
more of the mailbag today, but I
would do want to start with this

127
00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,400
one.
And shout out to Alicia or

128
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,160
Alicia.
I'm not sure how to pronounce

129
00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,720
it.
I'll say Alicia from Atlanta who

130
00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,440
messaged saying I've been
podcasting for about a year and

131
00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,840
I feel like I'm stuck in a
routine.

132
00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,720
I want to shake things up, but
I'm not sure what's actually

133
00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920
worth trying.
What's one thing experienced

134
00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,360
podcasters think everyone should
do at least once?

135
00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,400
It doesn't have to be content
related.

136
00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,280
I'm still reading her question,
by the way.

137
00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,360
It doesn't have to be content
related.

138
00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,720
I'm curious about all areas of
podcasting.

139
00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,880
Production, growth,
monetization, mindset.

140
00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,080
Anything that made a difference
for you?

141
00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,400
I thought that this was such a
great open-ended question that

142
00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,440
it just had to at least kick
things off today.

143
00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,640
And if you're wondering why,
it's because in my experience,

144
00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,360
it's easy to settle into
familiar formats and work flows

145
00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,320
as content creators.
But some of, at least for me, in

146
00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,120
my experience, my biggest
breakthroughs and from what I've

147
00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,440
seen from my clients and their
biggest breakthroughs, creative

148
00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:22,160
creatively or strategically
happen when we step outside of

149
00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,680
the routine and try something
new.

150
00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:27,720
Even if it's just one time.
It might be an on air

151
00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,120
experiment, a behind the scenes
change or a new way of

152
00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,880
connecting with your audience
And doing it can be the exact

153
00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,840
thing that keeps you going
because let's be real, pod fade

154
00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,920
often happens because we run out
of energy or inspiration.

155
00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,000
Sometimes it's because we're
stuck in the monotony of it all.

156
00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,800
So learning, experimenting,
staying curious, those are the

157
00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,960
kinds of things that can be the
fix to pod fade.

158
00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:02,680
So today's show, at least we'll
see how long far this takes us,

159
00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,560
is a space for us to swap ideas,
share what's worked or maybe

160
00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:12,480
what hasn't worked, and maybe
walk away with one new idea to

161
00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,640
re energize your show or you or
finally try that thing that

162
00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,200
you've been thinking about
trying.

163
00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,160
So I have some more specific
questions, but I want to start

164
00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,800
with Alicia's direct question,
and I'm going to ask those of

165
00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,840
you on stage.
And if you're listening in the

166
00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,160
audience and want to
participate, come on up and be a

167
00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,680
part of this.
What's one thing that you think

168
00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:37,240
every podcaster should try at
least once?

169
00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,760
I'm going to go ladies first
with Dr. And then I'll go check

170
00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,960
in with Alex, and then I see
Ashley's got something as well.

171
00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,080
Go ahead, Dr. Well, when I hear,
I wish she was in the room.

172
00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,400
When I hear Dom stuff that
Dominic does, it's it just goes

173
00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:00,040
straight to my soul.
And I would love it if I could

174
00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,320
really get into the narrative
style.

175
00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,800
There's just something so
elevated about that quiet,

176
00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,000
personal, intimate kind of
sound.

177
00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,760
Do you know what I mean?
That really deep storytelling

178
00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,680
and it just makes people lean in
just a little bit.

179
00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:27,040
And even if it's like a hybrid
to where I've heard some

180
00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,080
interviews, like right after the
intro, the guest intro, maybe

181
00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,240
that first question is a little
bit of that narrative style

182
00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,720
where they ask it, you know,
that are where they pose it, not

183
00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,280
in front of the guest, but all
of a sudden they push the button

184
00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,200
and you hear the guest speak.
And then the rest of the

185
00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,320
interview is like a regular, you
know, give and take interview

186
00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,560
instead of not a narrative
style, but there's just

187
00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:58,720
something about that narrative
style that makes people lean in

188
00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,840
just a little bit.
I'm with you there.

189
00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,720
I actually wrote that one down
myself too.

190
00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,640
So I'm on the same page with
you.

191
00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:09,240
And why do you think it is that
we don't get enough of that

192
00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,760
style?
I mean, we get it plenty with

193
00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,080
the true crime, right?
But when in other areas, why is

194
00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,000
it that you?
In other yeah, it just, I don't

195
00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,320
know why we don't get a maybe
people are afraid to do it

196
00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,400
because it feels very intimate.
It feels like they're talking

197
00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:32,720
just to me and it just has that
air of elevating the entire

198
00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,240
interview.
Maybe maybe that's it.

199
00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,920
Maybe that's why I maybe I got a
little imposter syndrome around

200
00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,800
it.
I imagine that.

201
00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,320
Yeah, yeah.
And I and I know it's probably

202
00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,760
also a little challenging too.
There's a lot of work involved

203
00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,840
in really telling that story as
opposed to letting it happen

204
00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,920
conversationally.
And I'm not putting down the

205
00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,320
idea of the more traditional
type of interview where it's

206
00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,080
back and forth, where it is
conversation that that's cool

207
00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,360
with me.
And it's just a much, it's more

208
00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,040
simple to have that type of
storytelling.

209
00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,440
But doing the narrative,
creating a a real story around

210
00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,600
it and weaving in the interview
in and out of the story that

211
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,280
you're telling takes more time
and more work.

212
00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,400
So I think that some people just
don't have or don't want to

213
00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,960
invest that time.
But I do think even if it was a

214
00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,400
once in a while thing, I think
it would be very well received

215
00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,080
from an audience.
I think change of pace can be

216
00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,880
good sometimes.
I think if you completely throw

217
00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,760
people for a loop and say, you
know, change your topic, yeah,

218
00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,440
that might jar your audience.
But I think doing something a

219
00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,080
little different and sharing
your enthusiasm for it with your

220
00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,360
audience, I think it helps it
become way more accepted and

221
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,720
interesting among your audience.
Yeah.

222
00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,040
Nick, did you want to comment on
that?

223
00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,880
I've always loved the idea of
doing that.

224
00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,640
That's after I had started going
for a little bit and I was

225
00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,000
listening to how J Klaus put out
his episodes.

226
00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,480
He did something very similar to
that where it was he was doing

227
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,240
the interview, but he was also
narrating that kind of on the

228
00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,000
side or he like jump in at
points to narrate and like pull

229
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,120
together the story.
And I always loved the way that

230
00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,920
those interviews came out.
Like I was so invested in what

231
00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,320
he was saying every step of the
way.

232
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,240
I do think the amount of work
and instead put it in the chat

233
00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,560
as well, the amount of planning
and what do you say takes a lot

234
00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,600
of planning and prep work.
And I think that alone is what

235
00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:46,080
intimidated me from doing it
just because having already done

236
00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,920
so many episodes at that time,
you know that it takes a lot of

237
00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,400
work just doing the podcast as
you're doing it, just a

238
00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,120
traditional interview.
And then when you're already on

239
00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,600
limited time saying, OK, now I'm
going to add another element to

240
00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,000
this that can require even more
of my time and work that can be

241
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,440
sometimes tough to pull off or
convince yourself, hey, we're

242
00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,360
going to try this.
I I totally love the idea but

243
00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,120
totally get why it's not as
common as.

244
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,880
With AI these days, it can
become much easier to put this

245
00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,320
together, and I'm not jumping
right to the idea of OK, so have

246
00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,160
it right at all for you, but it
can really help you navigate the

247
00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,200
story.
Yeah, I was going to say 100%

248
00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,200
because, and actually we we
hadn't circled back on it, but

249
00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,800
Mark and I were just playing
with the idea of can AI help us

250
00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,960
create that narrative or help
write some of that narrative

251
00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,560
that some of that planning for
us.

252
00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,000
And I had taken one of Mark's
interviews and fed it to AI and

253
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,720
it kind of explained what we
wanted to do.

254
00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,120
And I wasn't able to get it like
great.

255
00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,560
But I was able to develop the
narrative pieces in between some

256
00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,240
of the interview questions that
he was asking.

257
00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,760
I think it was, I can't remember
the interview, but it doesn't

258
00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,560
matter.
But that very well could be a

259
00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,760
way to help piece that story
together and then come in and

260
00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,400
make tweaks and just to how you
see fit.

261
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,600
But that's.
And you know, you're inspiring

262
00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,520
me.
I'm thinking maybe what I want

263
00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,960
to do, I may try to go back to
one of my older, not older

264
00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,440
interviews, but one of my
interviews over the past year

265
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,440
and redo it as a narrative and
then allow people to compare,

266
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,000
right, what they've heard or can
go back and listen to that

267
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,400
interview.
Maybe it's one of the ones with

268
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200
Heather parody, since I always
talk about how much I love those

269
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,800
interviews and maybe I so I
could recreate it as a narrative

270
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,920
and then put them side by side
and let people decide for

271
00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,320
themselves what do they prefer.
And maybe I'll use AIA little

272
00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,720
bit and share how I put this all
together along the way.

273
00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,640
And Nick, maybe if you want to
help me do that and revisit that

274
00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,040
would be awesome.
So we'll talk about that.

275
00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,360
And by the way, Speaking of
narratives, and then I'm going

276
00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,360
to go to Alex on Friday.
I think it was I shared.

277
00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,280
Go and find out.
That's the name of the podcast

278
00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,319
by Johnny Wright.
And this was a guy who I gave a

279
00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:13,800
free consult call to to help him
get started with his podcasting.

280
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,200
And he, I think blew a lot of us
out of the water when I played

281
00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,200
some of his first episode for
you.

282
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,800
And I listened to the full
episode over the weekend of

283
00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,839
episode 1 and I was thoroughly
impressed.

284
00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:28,319
And, and I continue to be
impressed by him by the way,

285
00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:32,040
because I was looking at his
reviews this morning in

286
00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,280
preparation of talking about
this today.

287
00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,960
And he's already had 54 reviews
and the vast majority of them

288
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,200
are five star reviews.
So kudos to him.

289
00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,280
I don't know how he's promoting
it, but I think I'm going to

290
00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,240
have to reach out to him and
maybe have him come on and share

291
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,040
a little bit about this
experience with us.

292
00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,440
Because as I told you on Friday,
this was his very first podcast.

293
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,520
He's never done a podcast
before.

294
00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,960
And just every step that I've
seen him take seems to work.

295
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,200
And I think digging into how he
made it work would be really

296
00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,120
beneficial for all of us.
So stay tuned.

297
00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:10,920
I'm going to ask him to come
join us one of these mornings.

298
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,120
In the meantime, let's check in
with Alex.

299
00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,560
Alex, good morning to you.
What did you want to add?

300
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,360
You know it's.
Funny you're talking about

301
00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:21,320
narratives because it's kind of
happy and sad when you were

302
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,600
talking about AI.
I'm a big Ken Burns person.

303
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,600
I remember when he first started
doing all of, you know, Civil

304
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,960
War and baseball and all the
other stuff that he's done.

305
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,520
And it is a different style.
It does take a ton of work.

306
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,560
And in the conversation it to
what Sid said, it does take so

307
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,280
much work.
But it's great that you can use

308
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,960
AII Don't know if that's if
people are getting what I'm

309
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,800
saying because of all the work
that you have to do for that

310
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,320
kind of project.
Yeah, thank you.

311
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,840
I couldn't think of that big 50s
at work, but yeah, now I think

312
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,800
that would be so neat and giving
me some food for thought.

313
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,880
But in terms of the original
question, I guess press play

314
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,280
first.
The one thing that I've always

315
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,920
said is don't press stop right
away.

316
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,920
If you're used to just stopping
it right away right after the

317
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,840
interview is over, you miss all
this content and a lot of B roll

318
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,320
or whatever you want to call it.
And I think that's an important

319
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,360
piece to your podcasting.
And I think and going back to

320
00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:30,440
the whole, this is what I also
Jarred me when you guys were

321
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,320
talking, people are love to talk
about how and I'm the same way.

322
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,160
They like to kind of let it
flow.

323
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,520
And when you have that
narrative, there's not so much

324
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,240
let it flow.
And maybe in the interview it

325
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,920
is, but putting it all together,
it isn't.

326
00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,200
So it's a fascinating way of
doing it.

327
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,160
I wish I could do it.
That's why I'm just so.

328
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,480
Jealous of it all.
Let's go to Ashley.

329
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,960
I know Ashley was one of the
first.

330
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,360
So, Ashley, go for it and then
we'll check in with Jonathan.

331
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,240
Good morning y'all.
I would say that every podcaster

332
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,240
a challenge that they should
take on is to get out from

333
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,160
behind their desk if they have
the equipment available to them

334
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,280
such as AP4 or maybe a Rd.
caster.

335
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,840
Go out somewhere in public and
interview someone in your local

336
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440
community.
One of the things I've never

337
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,920
really understood about
podcaster behavior, Not that

338
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,760
there's anything wrong with
using tools like Riverside or

339
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,280
any kind of browser based
recording software.

340
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,800
I think they miss out on the
real human connection of going

341
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:39,560
to a physical space and
accepting imperfection in sound

342
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,800
and being in a little bit of an
environment that you can't

343
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,040
control.
It's, it's really exciting.

344
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,480
It makes your production
abilities tighter because

345
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,960
there's more things to mitigate.
And I just think that it's great

346
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:56,880
to find someone who could be in
your own backyard versus

347
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,560
searching the whole wide world
over when they could be right

348
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,080
there.
And getting back to the AI

349
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,640
thing, every once in a while I
would try to do them in a

350
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,120
narrative format.
And I did have AI help

351
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,600
narrations.
What I ended up doing was giving

352
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,120
it the transcript and I asked it
to split this hour long

353
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:18,960
interview you into acts, and in
between the acts I would have it

354
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,640
right like a prologue and
epilogue and commentary between

355
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,920
poignant subjects we were
talking about.

356
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,000
And that's the way you can try
something new.

357
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:29,520
Oh, thank you.
I love that.

358
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:35,640
Thank you for a specific example
of how to turn your regular

359
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,880
interview into a narrative
style.

360
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,000
That's really helpful.
Thank you, Ashley and, and I

361
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000
agree with you by the way, about
getting out from behind your

362
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,200
desk.
I think, you know, when we talk

363
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,120
about the monotony of
everything, it does change

364
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:52,680
things up.
It does get you out there and

365
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,360
connecting with people you
probably wouldn't have connected

366
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:59,440
with if you decide if you just
stayed behind your desk and did

367
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,080
your podcast the way you
normally do it.

368
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,440
It also helps with exposure if
you're doing it in the public

369
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,320
place, people are going to see
what you're doing.

370
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,920
They're going to start asking
questions.

371
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,520
You never know what kind of
listeners you might get from

372
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,760
that.
I love that.

373
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,800
Thank you.
Ashley and Jonathan coming to

374
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,960
you.
What did you want to add?

375
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,640
We are answering what's one
thing every podcaster should try

376
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,920
at least once, and it's going to
be kind of the same, but a

377
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920
little bit different.
Go live to a live episode at

378
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,040
least once, even online, is what
you're saying?

379
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,840
Like an online live?
Yep.

380
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,880
An online live where you're
actually just.

381
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,440
Doing the recording and not even
recording it, it's just going

382
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,920
out to people and then you post
it later.

383
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,640
Mimi and I did one at the
podcast Movement last year and

384
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,520
it was.
Actually just it was a lot of

385
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,720
fun to do and it's breaks you
out of your regular flow.

386
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,360
Yeah, I agree.
And it breaks the audience out

387
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:54,080
of the regular flow too.
I think gives them something a

388
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,000
little different and it makes it
a little more exciting for them

389
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,320
to see you out of your element
and being excited about it.

390
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,160
So I'm with you there, Jonathan.
Thank you.

391
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,160
And Sid and for go ahead for us,
we get to actually be together

392
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,440
where normally we're apart.
That brings a whole other energy

393
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,560
and chemistry as well.
Yeah.

394
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,760
Yep.
Love that.

395
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Thank you, Jonathan.
All right, Sid, coming back to

396
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,040
you.
OK.

397
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,600
So I have two things that I
would say.

398
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,680
I say one first would be
editing.

399
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,320
Do the editing because it gives
you a perspective what's

400
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,360
involved in actually the
production of a show so that

401
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:31,520
when you do decide to outsource
it, you have a sense of the

402
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,600
value then that's associated
with it and why the cost is what

403
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,160
the cost is to do it, right.
So I think like sitting down and

404
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,480
trying it, I did twice and I
after the second time I'm like,

405
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800
screw this, I need an editor,
right?

406
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840
I'm not doing this.
This is not my skill set.

407
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,640
But it just gives you a
different perspective of all the

408
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,920
things that are involved in
doing the, you know, being a

409
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,800
podcaster, right?
So that's the first thing I

410
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,120
would say.
The second thing I would say if

411
00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:02,360
you haven't done it, absolutely
100% try to do a do a solo

412
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:06,800
episode, just you and the mic,
because that also pushes you

413
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,360
outside your limits.
My first episode was a solo

414
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:10,440
episode.
It was a trailer.

415
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Obviously I didn't know what the
heck I was doing.

416
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,120
And then I said, OK, I'm going
to do a solo episode.

417
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:19,200
And then as I've done them, I
just got better and better and

418
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,520
better at them.
So I think doing solo episodes

419
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,440
will help you improve your
skills as well.

420
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,720
Thank you, Sid.
Appreciate that.

421
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,920
And I mean, there are lots of
different ways that someone

422
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,280
could outsource their editing.
I sat here thinking because I

423
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,920
had that written down coming
into the show too, is outsource

424
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,640
your editing.
And I know that the the common

425
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,760
answer to that is, well, I can't
afford to hire somebody, but

426
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,800
there are that doesn't have to
be your only solution.

427
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,280
First of all, there could be
people that might, that you know

428
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,160
personally that might have those
skills that might be willing to

429
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,040
do it.
For example, somebody in our

430
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,280
community, Jackie, her husband
has all sorts of skills like

431
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,880
that being in TV and movies, and
he helps her edit her podcast.

432
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,320
Could be your kid.
I know several podcasters whose

433
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,280
teenage kids are editing for
them.

434
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,440
Quite frankly, they have those
skills.

435
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440
A lot of them have those skills
naturally 'cause they're

436
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,440
creating content all the time
anyway.

437
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,080
And also, you know, sometimes,
although I'm not, this is

438
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,440
wouldn't be my first suggestion
and probably wouldn't be my 5th

439
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,280
suggestion.
I don't know where I came up

440
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,680
with five, but it this would
probably be later down the road

441
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,720
of suggestions, but you could
always look into something like

442
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,880
Fiverr.
But what I would say is if

443
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,200
you're going to do that, try to
get a referral, a

444
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,200
recommendation, somebody who's
using somebody from Fiverr

445
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,840
already that they trust and they
believe does quality work just

446
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,640
because sometimes you could it,
it's a little harder to weed out

447
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,120
the good from the ugly on fiber,
at least it was for me.

448
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280
So if you're going to use fiber,
like I said, see if you can find

449
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,120
a recommendation first.
But there are all sorts of ways

450
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,920
and fiber would be a very
inexpensive way in many cases.

451
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,560
Does anyone else want to share?
And by the way, I I see a bunch

452
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,280
of people listening live in the
audience.

453
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,680
Please come on up if you have an
idea.

454
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,320
What's one thing every podcaster
should try at least once?

455
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,880
And I'm going to throw some what
I maybe you consider low hanging

456
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,280
fruit.
But for some new podcasters or

457
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,520
even long time podcasters who
aren't doing this, ask for

458
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,840
reviews.
It's something I don't do enough

459
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,440
of.
Ask your audience to go leave

460
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,640
you a review on Apple or go rate
your podcast on Spotify.

461
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520
There the social proof we talk
about all the time.

462
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,880
It is real and it is a thing and
it's helpful for some people to

463
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,120
make those choices of whether or
not they're going to press the

464
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,480
play button.
So I would say ask for reviews

465
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,520
and I'll do it right now.
Please do leave us a review.

466
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,960
As a matter of fact, I know we
just got one not I haven't read

467
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,360
the most recent one that we got
and this is of not asking enough

468
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,080
because the last one we got was
in April I believe.

469
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,120
So I'm going to ask you right
now, please if you haven't go

470
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:15,600
leave us a review and you could
be and then I'll read it like I

471
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,040
will for this person.
Pam who said this was in on

472
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,640
April 13th.
I've listened to 1 episode and I

473
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,160
found it extremely beneficial.
It was nice to get a variety of

474
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,560
insights and suggestions from
contributors, not just a single

475
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,200
host.
So glad I found this podcast

476
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,120
very valuable.
So thank you, Pam appreciate

477
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,320
that.
And again, if you have listened

478
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,720
to 1 episode or many of the
podcasting morning chat, I ask

479
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480
you, please go leave us a review
on Apple.

480
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,800
You can do that even if you
don't or if you're not an Apple

481
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,560
user, just search for the
podcasting morning chat, Apple

482
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Podcasts.
Just Google it and you'll find

483
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,320
at the podcasting morning chat,
and then you can click through

484
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,760
and leave us that review or go
ahead and leave us a rating on

485
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,280
Spotify.
I would appreciate that.

486
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,360
Billy, welcome to the stage.
What's one thing every podcaster

487
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,360
should try at least once?
Good morning.

488
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,400
I miss you guys.
It's Yeah, good to have you.

489
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,440
I've.
Been busy?

490
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,680
Yeah, I mean dizzy moving to an
island.

491
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,520
So I'm here and do some errands.
The one thing I was thinking

492
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,080
about this morning is with any
audience size, people are always

493
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,200
like, I only got 1000 people
listening or 400.

494
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Go to Google and typed in
audience of 400 and just really

495
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,720
look at how many people that is
and really look at you know what

496
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,080
that audience size is if you put
all those people into a room.

497
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,280
I heard this exercise on a
different show and I was like,

498
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,760
you know what?
That is a pretty good

499
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,320
perspective.
And I've always said it like,

500
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,320
oh, imagine if you have 30 or 40
people in your studio or

501
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,600
wherever you record or your
closet or whatever, you probably

502
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,440
couldn't fit them in there.
But then when you go and Google

503
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,320
search and, and, you know,
trying to get an idea of what

504
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,520
that looks like, I think you'll
be pretty impressed with

505
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,080
yourself to go, OK, I am making,
you know, an impact.

506
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,360
People do care what I what I
have to say.

507
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,640
So don't do that.
I love that Billy.

508
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,800
Thank you.
I know I've shared that before

509
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,280
too, and I may have heard that
originally from Pat Flynn.

510
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,000
I'm not saying he's the
originator of that, but I that's

511
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,240
where I first heard that and I
have a an update to that.

512
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Instead of Googling it, just go
to ChatGPT, tell it to show you

513
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,680
what a studio audience of 204
hundred, 800, whatever it is

514
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,320
people looks like.
I just did it here.

515
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,360
And it really makes a difference
when you can actually see an

516
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,000
audience.
And again, my prompt was show me

517
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,200
what a studio audience of 400
people looks like because that's

518
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,720
the way I envision, right?
If I'm doing this show and I and

519
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,400
say 400 people on average are
listening to this show, what

520
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
does that look like?
And put that right in front of

521
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,680
you.
To some people, I'm sure that

522
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,880
might be a little intimidating.
To others, it's kind of exciting

523
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,480
and it does, like you're saying,
put it in perspective because

524
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,600
sometimes when even 100, right,
if you have 100, even 50, if you

525
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,480
have 50 listeners, if you get a
picture of what that looks like,

526
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,720
it really changes things up.
I love that Billy maybe go get.

527
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,240
A vinyl banner printed and hang
it in studio if that would.

528
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Bring a different energy.
If you're like, OK, I got to get

529
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,960
off.
I got to be off, yeah.

530
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,880
That'd be interesting.
Yeah, that's another one I think

531
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,000
I'd like to try.
I love that.

532
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,600
Thank you.
So yeah.

533
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320
So go try that all if you
haven't already, go try that

534
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,440
with ChatGPT version 4 O type it
in and you'll get a nice

535
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,360
realistic image.
Put in your average audience

536
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,760
size and see what that looks
like.

537
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,560
You're not talking to nobody,
even though it feels like it

538
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,680
sometimes.
Dr. you, you must have another

539
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,160
one for us.
What's another thing that every

540
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,880
podcaster should try at least
once?

541
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,960
Well, what we've.
Covered so far is recording

542
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,720
outside editing, which I confess
I was just doing just now

543
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,760
because I've got some stuff and
narrative.

544
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,800
I don't know, maybe doing what
we do is the whole the round

545
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560
table.
I mean, even the person who

546
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,200
wrote the review liked the whole
all of the the different voices.

547
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,680
All the different.
Voices all the different

548
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,480
opinions in one spot instead of
having to go to 1 episode of

549
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,960
something for to hear one person
and then having to go all the

550
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,360
way over and have maybe rushing
through.

551
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,240
Maybe, you know, fast forwarding
through to get the the same

552
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,240
another answer on the same topic
by a different guest.

553
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,160
That's the only thing I can
think of.

554
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,280
I love round tables.
This is a round table and to be

555
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,280
part of a round table is
fantastic.

556
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Yeah, I'm with you.
A show that I've referenced here

557
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,200
on the podcasting morning chat
before.

558
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,840
A friend of mine, Meredith, for
real, the curious introvert.

559
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,360
She just put out a show last
week that I really enjoyed.

560
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560
I'm about halfway through it
actually, so I haven't finished

561
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,480
it yet, but so far I'm really
enjoying it.

562
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,080
And she brought on.
It was rare for her.

563
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,960
It's usually just her and one
guest, but she brought on three

564
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,480
or four men to talk about men's
mental health and I believe June

565
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,040
is Men Mental Health Month.
You could tell she was really

566
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,720
enjoying it as an audience
member.

567
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,320
I was enjoying it, true.
You know it.

568
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,240
It was really speaking my
language, talking about men's

569
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,320
mental health.
And also it did change things up

570
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,840
from what I'm used to hearing on
her episode.

571
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,840
And it was nice to hear
different opinions, different

572
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,080
perspectives as a regular
listener of her show.

573
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,240
So yeah, I like that one.
Thank you.

574
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,440
Well, let me ask you something.
Because the other thing that

575
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,800
someone should try is to
moderate it, just like you are

576
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,760
doing this show with all these
different voices.

577
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:13,440
That is a skill that every time
I'm asked to host that I kind of

578
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,680
grip my teeth a little bit and I
try and channel you because

579
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,040
you're very good at
transitioning from one voice to

580
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,240
the other, looking at the hands.
You're very good at that and I

581
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,680
try and channel you.
So I think that's maybe

582
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,240
something that people should try
is to try and moderate this.

583
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,520
I agree with you it.
It does take practice and skill

584
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,920
to do it and I think I'm still
learning all the time.

585
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
And I agreed with most of what
you said.

586
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,000
I think I can do a better job
seeing who who's raised their

587
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,120
hand and wants to speak next.
I think sometimes I don't do the

588
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,200
best job at that, but that's OK.
Yes, yes, exactly.

589
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,520
And Sharon has joined us on
stage again.

590
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,720
Good morning, Sharon, welcome
back to the stage.

591
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,960
What did you want to add to
this?

592
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Hey Mark.
Hi everyone.

593
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,440
I wanted to agree with DRI
wasn't going to come up until

594
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,320
she said that.
But Mark, I wanted to say you

595
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,239
have inspired me to do what I
should have done many months

596
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600
ago.
I'm always on Clubhouse.

597
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,760
I took a break when Clubhouse
started taking a little

598
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,280
departure from the live rooms
and I came back, as many of us

599
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,400
did, right?
Yep.

600
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,639
Nevertheless, I've been doing
rooms really since the first day

601
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:35,000
I'd been on Clubhouse four years
ago and I never even when I I

602
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,120
started my the latest podcast
about two years ago and I did

603
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,880
not recycle, repurpose my rooms
here on Clubhouse that podcast

604
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,480
until recently.
And although I started a little

605
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:53,679
bit before your room inspired by
you doing this room and the way

606
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,239
you set yours up is very
similar.

607
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,680
So I wanted to just tell
everyone to try that if you

608
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,400
haven't and just see how it
works as well as having other

609
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
voices on.
I never really did that either.

610
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,240
So thank you, Mark, for what you
do every day, every day, as well

611
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,760
as everybody else.
Thank you, Sharon, I appreciate

612
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,200
that.
Really.

613
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,800
Do that means a lot to be seen
and recognized and even more so,

614
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,960
you know, that's that's the
overarching name of what we do

615
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,440
here, right Empowered
podcasting.

616
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,920
So I'm I'm glad to hear that I
empowered you to go out there

617
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,480
and do something similar.
That's exciting.

618
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,200
Thank you.
And Sid, did you want to add

619
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,280
something I just had another
idea for?

620
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,240
You when you're ready sure, go
for it I.

621
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,600
Would say that.
Pass the mic.

622
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,560
In other words, be the guest and
not the host.

623
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,600
They come for the content, they
stay for the host.

624
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,160
So give them the opportunity to
get to know you by letting you

625
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,480
be interviewed by somebody.
I always have a lot of fun with

626
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,200
that.
My most recent episode was

627
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,120
passing the mic to a guest host.
And it's just really fun to be

628
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000
the person being interviewed
versus interviewing.

629
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,120
So I think that's a really great
thing to do.

630
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,200
And then the second thing that I
would say is this is back to the

631
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,760
basics.
But if you don't know your

632
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,720
audience and you don't know your
ideal listener, please research

633
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,320
your ideal listener.
Go talk to them live in person.

634
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,480
Ask them what's going on with
them.

635
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,720
If you're struggling with the
listeners that probably, you

636
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,320
know, people downloading, it
probably means you're not

637
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,600
talking to the right people and
you don't necessarily know your

638
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,520
your target audience or your
avatar very well.

639
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,080
So do the research and know who
that person is that you're

640
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,320
talking to.
Thank you, Sid.

641
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,280
And what would be your advice if
somebody's having a hard time

642
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,320
actually connecting with their
audience, but they want to get

643
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,040
to know their target audiences,
interests, disinterests,

644
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,040
etcetera, What would you
suggest?

645
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Oh, that's a really great
question.

646
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,440
So the first thing I would
suggest is reach out to the

647
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,440
people that you know that are
listening to your show.

648
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,920
Each of us likely know the
people that are listening to

649
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,280
your show.
They've either left you a review

650
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,040
or they've sent you a message,
hopefully, right?

651
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,040
Reach out to the specific
people.

652
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,200
That's what I'm doing right now.
I'm reaching out to these

653
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,360
specific people that are, I know
that are listening to my show

654
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,600
because they've reached out to
me, connected with me in some

655
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,400
way.
However, say you want to talk to

656
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,000
the CEO of a small business and
that small business is a local

657
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000
small business right in your
town, or the owner of a local

658
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,640
small business in your town.
Then go knock on their door and

659
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,320
ask to talk to them about their
business and who they are,

660
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,840
right?
If you've got this vision of who

661
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,400
your ideal person want to talk
to and you don't know them

662
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,600
personally like they had shouted
on your show, but you know who

663
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,880
they are, then go find that
person and talk to them.

664
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,360
That makes sense, Mark.
Yeah, that makes great sense.

665
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Thank.
You and I would also do some

666
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,040
other things like Googling your
target audience.

667
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,760
Maybe you know that your target
audience are men, ages, I don't

668
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,520
know, 25 to 39, and you want to
learn what interests, Google it

669
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,720
or use AI and get something, get
something to start with, a

670
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,040
baseline to work with.
If you're really having trouble

671
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,280
connecting with your audience
one-on-one, then, yeah, just do

672
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,160
a little investigative work
yourself.

673
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,440
I love that.
Thank you, Sid.

674
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,400
I appreciate it.
What do we think about the the V

675
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,080
Word video?
We know more and more podcasters

676
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,000
are getting into video because
it's being pushed so hard these

677
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800
days, and not every podcaster's
doing video.

678
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,720
Do we think that video is
something that every podcaster

679
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,080
should try at least once, and if
so, why?

680
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,520
There's reasons to go to.
Video people, some people say,

681
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
oh, you have to do video.
No, you don't have to.

682
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,760
I mean, discovery is great.
Yeah, the discovery on YouTube

683
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,840
is great, that's for sure.
But if it's not in your heart,

684
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,760
it's just not in your heart.
And there are other ways of

685
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,080
doing video rather than showing
up on camera.

686
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:09,680
So do you remember years ago
when VH1 first started, they had

687
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,360
something called pop up video
and and it was random things

688
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,000
like when they were filming
this, there was a huge

689
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,520
thunderstorm.
And I mean, it was just random,

690
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,360
made no sense as to why they
were there.

691
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,840
Little factoids.
And I really thought that, but

692
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,760
it kept me interested.
I didn't even like the song, but

693
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
it kept me interested because I
wanted to see what the next

694
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,240
thing that came up was.
And I thought that maybe doing

695
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:40,480
even a static image or maybe in
an like a carousel of images

696
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,600
that would rotate during a
podcast.

697
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,720
But with those pop up images,
John has a dog named Bernard.

698
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,320
And you know, I mean, it just
some kind of weird facto things

699
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,160
to keep them sitting there in
front of the I don't know.

700
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,000
This is no.
This is a great.

701
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Idea.
I love this idea.

702
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000
It's because you're making it
more interactive.

703
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,520
You're keeping your audience
engaged.

704
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Like you said, you you were
listening to the songs all the

705
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,480
way through because you wanted
to see what was the next fact

706
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,200
that popped up on the screen.
I think that that can work

707
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,960
similarly in podcasting.
Absolutely.

708
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,640
And even if you're not on
screen, like you said, even if

709
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,040
it's like a static image there,
but the pop ups are happening

710
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,040
throughout the episode.
I think that yeah, that keeps

711
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,080
people engaged.
I like that idea.

712
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,600
OK, You make me feel better
about the.

713
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Show go ahead.
Janae love watching that.

714
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Those pop up music videos, I
think Ashley said the same

715
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,320
thing.
It would be so fun.

716
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,800
You know, people just watching
video and then they see the wait

717
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,720
for the next factoid because
they don't know what's going to

718
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,880
come next.
And a lot of the the ideology

719
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,560
behind video is that you're just
being the in a hook state and

720
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
then, you know, you close the
loop and as soon as you close

721
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,280
the loop, you open up the hook.
And I think these factoids will

722
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,920
do the exactly the same thing
for people to watch the videos

723
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,800
and all the factoids would.
Be about the guest and the guest

724
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,400
and the host.
You know, just just like

725
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,840
randomoid kind of things.
Yeah.

726
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Thank you for the encouragement,
everyone.

727
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,760
Right.
Exactly.

728
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Yeah.
And I'm even picturing like when

729
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,840
during an interview, maybe you
had to stop the recording or

730
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,080
stop the actual interview for a
minute because somebody had to

731
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,600
take a bathroom break.
I would put a pop up there like

732
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,240
that said, we actually took a
break here because I had to go

733
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:37,600
use the restroom.
I I would throw that kind of

734
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,960
stuff in there, too.
Exactly.

735
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Yeah.
Behind the scenes stuff, can't

736
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,480
see it.
They can at least read about it,

737
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,240
you know?
Yeah, for sure.

738
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Janae, I'm going to come back to
you since you're on stage here.

739
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Do you have any suggestions for
somebody, well, for any

740
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,280
podcaster that they should try
at least once?

741
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,440
Mark, thanks for.
Asking and I was blanking.

742
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,600
I'm like, wow, that's something
really cool.

743
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,520
And as I'm listening to
different things that we could

744
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,560
be doing, it's like, wow, I've
never thought of that.

745
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,840
You know, I've always had it one
specific way.

746
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,600
And one thing that I.
Am leaning into is kind of

747
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,720
creating like a miniseries that
people can listen to with my

748
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,520
podcast.
If they don't want to listen to

749
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,520
the other episode, they can come
and listen to a miniseries of,

750
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,120
oh, how to set up a studio or
how to sound really good for

751
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,160
your very first podcast.
So maybe like a mini series.

752
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,600
If somebody hasn't tried that,
that would be 1 good thing to

753
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,880
do.
And I know a friend of mine, he

754
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,960
does these miniseries or they'll
do different types of series on

755
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,160
their podcast.
Oh, you know, June is AI month

756
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,680
or June is mental health month
for men.

757
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,360
It's so that could be another
way.

758
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,000
So you're basically using the
theme of the month to highlight

759
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,640
on your podcast to be more in
line with a chance.

760
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,080
I like that one.
And yes.

761
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,880
I know somebody who hosts the
show ADHD Big Brother, that's

762
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,440
the name of the show and he
often themes out each month.

763
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,720
Like one month it was getting
organized for these people with

764
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:22,720
ADHD that's very challenging.
So he had a month's worth of

765
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,000
episodes all around
organization.

766
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:31,040
Some another one might be
overwhelm or you know, ways to

767
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,560
stay focused.
You know, he'll pick a theme for

768
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,200
every month.
I think he's doing one for

769
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,920
entrepreneurs with a DHDI.
Think that might have been just

770
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,800
this past month having a
business with ADHD.

771
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000
So yeah, theming out your
content can be interesting.

772
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,760
Keep things interesting for you,
keep things interesting for your

773
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,400
audience.
I agree with you.

774
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,960
Another one for me that I think
it is important to say out loud

775
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,280
that I don't believe enough
podcasters are doing is to share

776
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,200
your personal journey.
This is kind of piggybacking off

777
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,320
of what Sid was saying.
Have somebody interview you

778
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,640
because ultimately that will be
hopefully you sharing stuff that

779
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,280
you don't normally share on the
show because you're always

780
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,360
asking the questions, not giving
the answers.

781
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,400
But I think having some
episodes, and I think maybe it

782
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,520
was Sid who also said doing a
solo episode, it's another

783
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,000
opportunity.
I think the more your audience

784
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,120
gets to know you and what's
behind this podcast, why did you

785
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,800
start it in the first place?
What's the motive, what's the

786
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,280
goal and what was the
inspiration?

787
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,920
I think that helps create a
deeper relationship between you

788
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,200
and your audience.
That's scary, though.

789
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,080
It can be.
I'll tell you what.

790
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,440
I mean, you interviewed me.
You interviewed me for mine and

791
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,840
you did some research I didn't
expect for you to do.

792
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,000
So that was interesting.
Yeah.

793
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,160
And it can be.
Scary.

794
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,120
And I think, you know, like
everything, new stuff can be

795
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,720
scary.
And I think the more that we do

796
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:07,320
it, the easier it gets.
I feel like at least maybe I'm

797
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,160
not always an open book here and
I feel like I'm comfortable

798
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,280
enough to always be an open
book.

799
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,000
So when there's an opportunity
to share, I'm I'm happy to share

800
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,040
some of my journey with you.
It does make me more human.

801
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,800
It does show that, you know,
some people come to me and they

802
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,360
say, you know, they can't
believe how much I've got it all

803
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,040
together.
And that's so far from the

804
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,600
truth, right?
I struggle.

805
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,120
I often struggle coming up with
topics to talk about during the

806
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,880
show.
I struggle after the show

807
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,840
feeling like some not every show
but after some shows feeling

808
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,880
like that wasn't my best
performance and the more I can

809
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,640
share that I think the more real
it makes me and the more my

810
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,840
audience will want to support
me.

811
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,840
I'm cured if people agree with.
Me on this Dr. What's the one

812
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,640
thing people crave the most?
Are we leading to authenticity?

813
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,880
Nope.
What's the?

814
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,800
One thing people crave the most.
Mark, do you know what I'm

815
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,640
talking about?
I mean my what?

816
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,440
Comes to mind.
First is connections.

817
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,320
Yeah, human connection.
That's what we crave, right?

818
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,720
And the person, whether it's you
or your listener that's put

819
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:21,040
their earbuds in to listen or
watch you, right, are craving a

820
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,160
connection with you.
There's a device between you and

821
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,800
them.
So if you give them the gift of

822
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,680
telling your story, you have no
idea the amount of impact that

823
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,760
you can have on somebody's life,
right?

824
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,960
Even if it's just one person.
I talk about this all the time

825
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,360
to people.
It's just like try to impact one

826
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,960
person, one person.
If you do something or say

827
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,480
something, or your story can
help somebody make a better

828
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,960
decision than they were about to
make, then in my opinion, you

829
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,520
are a successful podcaster.
You are a successful content

830
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,400
creator, right?
Because you're impacting people.

831
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,840
So give them the gift of hearing
your story.

832
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Don't hide your story.
Give them that gift because

833
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,160
something that happened in your
story could very well change the

834
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,080
trajectory of their life.
I feel like I need to.

835
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,800
End the show here.
And I'm seeing if you don't do

836
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,040
that, don't do that, Sid.
If you look in the chat here,

837
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,360
we've got a lot of people
cheering, cheering it on.

838
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,680
What you're saying here, shouted
from the rooftop.

839
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,000
Sid, Preach.
Sid.

840
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,440
Yeah, I'm with you.
And I think that what happens

841
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,680
sometimes is that some of us
think that, well, as long as

842
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,080
we're providing value and
information, value and

843
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,680
information that will create the
connection.

844
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,960
But it really doesn't, right?
It makes you valuable.

845
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,720
But to really take advantage of
the full value, people have to

846
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:50,040
get to know who you are.
Then all of a sudden, the

847
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,720
information and value that
you're sharing means something

848
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,520
more to them.
It's more impactful, right?

849
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,520
You can give them all the
answers, but if they don't

850
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,840
really know who you are, they
can get that from ChatGPT,

851
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,920
right?
But once they really know and

852
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,560
understand what makes this
person tick and what that this

853
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,360
person has been through that
that's able to share their

854
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,720
experience, their expertise,
then all of a sudden it, it hits

855
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,520
differently.
At least it does for me.

856
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,920
And I know it that same approach
for my clients.

857
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,120
It's it's helped them and it's
worked for them too.

858
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,720
Thank you, Sid, I appreciate
that response and I do think

859
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,400
that this is a great spot to
wrap things up.

860
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,400
So thank you Sid.
I appreciate you wrapping it up

861
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,640
in a nice bow like that.
And we are going to be back

862
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,000
tomorrow and tomorrow looking at
through the mailbag here and

863
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,200
also some this coincides with
some suggestions I got from the

864
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,080
team over the weekend.
I think we're going to talk a

865
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,200
little bit about summer and what
our plans are for this summer.

866
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,360
What are we doing about podcast
and creating content over the

867
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,360
summer?
Because let's face it, we all

868
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,400
have lots of different plans and
activities going on throughout

869
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,720
the summer on top of our
day-to-day routines, on top of

870
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,280
our podcasting.
Sometimes it's a little hard to

871
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,800
manage it all and I'm curious,
what are we doing for it?

872
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,760
So think about that and come
share what you've done in the

873
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,520
past or what you're planning on
doing this summer with your

874
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,880
podcast and content creation.
We'll do that at 7:00 AM live,

875
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,200
then that's Eastern Time here on
Clubhouse and on YouTube as

876
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,960
well.
So join us in either place.

877
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,240
And if you can't, no problem,
just check out the podcast a few

878
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:32,080
hours later on your favorite
podcast platform.

879
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,920
So until tomorrow, make it a
great day everybody take care.