Jan. 24, 2023
Wondery Presents: Frozen Head
Hosted by Ash Kelley and Alaina Urquhart from the hit show Morbid.
When 90-year-old Laurence Pilgeram drops dead on the sidewalk outside his condo, you might think that’s the end of his story. But, really, it’s just the beginning. Because Laurence...
Hosted by Ash Kelley and Alaina Urquhart from the hit show Morbid.
When 90-year-old Laurence Pilgeram drops dead on the sidewalk outside his condo, you might think that’s the end of his story. But, really, it’s just the beginning. Because Laurence and others like him have signed up to be frozen and brought back to life in the future. And that belief will pull multiple generations of the Pilgeram family into a cryonics soap opera filled with dead pets, gold coins, grenades, fist fights, mysterious packages, family feuds, Hall of Fame baseball legends, and frozen heads — lots of frozen heads. From Wondery, comes a story about life, death, and what comes next.
Follow Frozen Head on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App.
Listen to Frozen Head: Wondery.fm/FH_SFTC
This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/2975465/advertisement
When 90-year-old Laurence Pilgeram drops dead on the sidewalk outside his condo, you might think that’s the end of his story. But, really, it’s just the beginning. Because Laurence and others like him have signed up to be frozen and brought back to life in the future. And that belief will pull multiple generations of the Pilgeram family into a cryonics soap opera filled with dead pets, gold coins, grenades, fist fights, mysterious packages, family feuds, Hall of Fame baseball legends, and frozen heads — lots of frozen heads. From Wondery, comes a story about life, death, and what comes next.
Follow Frozen Head on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App.
Listen to Frozen Head: Wondery.fm/FH_SFTC
This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/2975465/advertisement
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If you had the chance to be
brought back to life hundreds of years in
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the future, would you take it? Wonder He's new podcast, frozen Head,
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hosted by Ashe and Elena of the
hit show Morbid, tells the true
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story of Laurence Pilgrim, a lifelong
scientist who planned for death his entire life
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because for him, death wasn't the
end, it was just the beginning.
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Lawrence's dream to be frozen and brought
back to life in the future pulls us
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into a cryonics soap opera filled with
dead pets, grenades, family feuds,
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00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:45.560
hall of fame, baseball legends,
and frozen heads, lots of frozen heads.
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It's a story about the desire to
avoid death, the lengths people will
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00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.159
go to to make that a reality, and what it means to be alive.
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To begin with, I'm about to
play a clip from frozen Head while
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you're listening. Follow frozen Head wherever
you get your podcasts, and Hey Prime
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members, you can binge all six
episodes at free on Amazon Music download the
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Amazon Music app. Today It's a
fresh spring day in Montana, but inside
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a modest white ranch house, the
living room is filled with death. There's
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a dead fox, a couple of
dead coyotes and deer heads mounted on the
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wall. This is the Pilgrim's home. Pilgrim as in Lawrence Pilgrim, the
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man who tried to have his wife
frozen in Alcore, the very same but
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this is his son Kurt's house on
this day. Kurt's son, Lawrence's grandson,
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Benjamin, is at home when he
hears something outside. I remember the
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dog's barking when he hold up.
The dogs always bark when anybody pulls into
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00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:07.439
the place. Now, normally the
mailman delivers to the mailbox by the road,
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00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.039
but today he's come all the way
up to the front door and he's
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holding a package. Hey, Dan, leave it at the door, like
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what they usually do. So I
was like, yeah, well, I'm
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sure it's just something needs to be
signed for it. So Benjamin opens the
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door. I met him, and
I signed for the box. As I'm
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signed for it, I'm looking at
the box. It was just a regular
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old cardboard box. It's a rectangular
shaped box about a foot long and half
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as wide, a little bit bigger
than a shoebox. Benjamin is used to
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seeing boxes arrive at the house.
His dad, Kurt sells tools, but
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something about this one is different.
I'm thinking this is a pretty small box.
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It doesn't sound like it's full of
tools. Benjamin says thank you,
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and as the mailman walks back to
his truck, Benjamin takes a closer look
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at what's in his hands. Believe
the markings were extremely fragile ashes or body
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00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:09.360
remains or something of that regard was
on the side of it. Oh,
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this is definitely not a box of
tools. No, it's not. His
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dad is out on a delivery,
but Benjamin decides to give him a call.
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I was like, let me at
least give him a heads up because
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this sounds like something that he may
have to deal with. Yeah, like
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a box of human remains is probably
something he'll have to deal with. I
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was like, your dad was going
to be frozen upon his death? Is
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that correct? Fair question? My
dad said yes, he was going to
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be. Why do you ask?
I was like, I am holding a
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box that I just signed for that
is containing someone's ashes. Hey, Prime
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members, you can binge all six
episodes of Frozen head ad free on Amazon
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00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.280
Music download the Amazon Music app today,
1
00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:04.759
If you had the chance to be
brought back to life hundreds of years in
2
00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:10.359
the future, would you take it? Wonder He's new podcast, frozen Head,
3
00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:15.080
hosted by Ashe and Elena of the
hit show Morbid, tells the true
4
00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:21.399
story of Laurence Pilgrim, a lifelong
scientist who planned for death his entire life
5
00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:26.760
because for him, death wasn't the
end, it was just the beginning.
6
00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:33.119
Lawrence's dream to be frozen and brought
back to life in the future pulls us
7
00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:39.200
into a cryonics soap opera filled with
dead pets, grenades, family feuds,
8
00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:45.560
hall of fame, baseball legends,
and frozen heads, lots of frozen heads.
9
00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:50.679
It's a story about the desire to
avoid death, the lengths people will
10
00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.159
go to to make that a reality, and what it means to be alive.
11
00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:00.960
To begin with, I'm about to
play a clip from frozen Head while
12
00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:07.159
you're listening. Follow frozen Head wherever
you get your podcasts, and Hey Prime
13
00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:12.400
members, you can binge all six
episodes at free on Amazon Music download the
14
00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:26.000
Amazon Music app. Today It's a
fresh spring day in Montana, but inside
15
00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.439
a modest white ranch house, the
living room is filled with death. There's
16
00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.840
a dead fox, a couple of
dead coyotes and deer heads mounted on the
17
00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:42.439
wall. This is the Pilgrim's home. Pilgrim as in Lawrence Pilgrim, the
18
00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.319
man who tried to have his wife
frozen in Alcore, the very same but
19
00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:52.840
this is his son Kurt's house on
this day. Kurt's son, Lawrence's grandson,
20
00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.439
Benjamin, is at home when he
hears something outside. I remember the
21
00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:01.439
dog's barking when he hold up.
The dogs always bark when anybody pulls into
22
00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:07.439
the place. Now, normally the
mailman delivers to the mailbox by the road,
23
00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.039
but today he's come all the way
up to the front door and he's
24
00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:14.759
holding a package. Hey, Dan, leave it at the door, like
25
00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:15.800
what they usually do. So I
was like, yeah, well, I'm
26
00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:20.360
sure it's just something needs to be
signed for it. So Benjamin opens the
27
00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.639
door. I met him, and
I signed for the box. As I'm
28
00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.800
signed for it, I'm looking at
the box. It was just a regular
29
00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:31.639
old cardboard box. It's a rectangular
shaped box about a foot long and half
30
00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:36.800
as wide, a little bit bigger
than a shoebox. Benjamin is used to
31
00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:42.000
seeing boxes arrive at the house.
His dad, Kurt sells tools, but
32
00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:46.240
something about this one is different.
I'm thinking this is a pretty small box.
33
00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.960
It doesn't sound like it's full of
tools. Benjamin says thank you,
34
00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:57.560
and as the mailman walks back to
his truck, Benjamin takes a closer look
35
00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:05.479
at what's in his hands. Believe
the markings were extremely fragile ashes or body
36
00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:09.360
remains or something of that regard was
on the side of it. Oh,
37
00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:15.159
this is definitely not a box of
tools. No, it's not. His
38
00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.879
dad is out on a delivery,
but Benjamin decides to give him a call.
39
00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.759
I was like, let me at
least give him a heads up because
40
00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.639
this sounds like something that he may
have to deal with. Yeah, like
41
00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:31.120
a box of human remains is probably
something he'll have to deal with. I
42
00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:36.599
was like, your dad was going
to be frozen upon his death? Is
43
00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:40.199
that correct? Fair question? My
dad said yes, he was going to
44
00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:45.280
be. Why do you ask?
I was like, I am holding a
45
00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:53.280
box that I just signed for that
is containing someone's ashes. Hey, Prime
46
00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:59.759
members, you can binge all six
episodes of Frozen head ad free on Amazon
47
00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.280
Music download the Amazon Music app today,
