Empowerment through Transformative Self-Discovery Programs with Kelle Sparta

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All right. We're live. Okay. I did look at Kelly's

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website for just a second. So you see it down

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here. I have no idea who she is. Look at her.

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She's beautiful, brave, bold, willing to come

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on to a live with crazy Adrian and share what

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you do. So everyone give it up for Kelly. She's

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got to introduce herself because I have no clue

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what she does. It's all yours Kelly. Thanks.

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Thank you. Wait, did I say your name right, Ellie?

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You did. Yes. Are you going to tell me the story

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of your name, too, please? Oh, yes. Well, my

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mother's phonetically stupid. I can't help it.

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No. It's not true. My mother was an English teacher

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when she named me. She knew the phonetics of

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it. She said it's a name. It could be anything

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it wants to be. Ironically, and I'll introduce

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myself after I say this, but ironically, When

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I googled like I don't know like 10 15 years

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ago I just googled the this spelling of my name

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and every single person who came up on the first

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page of Google who had the name spelled my way

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was all in a spiritual field So clearly she knew

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right? So and that's how I'm going to introduce

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myself. My name is Kelly Sparta I'm a transformational

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shaman and spiritual coach spiritual business

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coach and I work with people who are looking

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to up level themselves and the planet Where are

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you located I'm in Boquete Panama Wait what Panama

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country the country of Panama the country. Yeah,

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I live on the side of a volcano Really I do You

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show pictures and you're like fate how do people

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like do they get to see your photos on Instagram

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Facebook? Oh, yeah I got all kinds of photos.

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So I mean, yeah, it's crazy. I actually run retreats

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here in Panama. So people can come down for a

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personal retreat or they can come down for a

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group retreat. I've run a program called Adventures

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in Energetics once a year here in Panama. And

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the next one's coming up in January next year.

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It's happening during the Flower and Coffee Festival.

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And so, you know, it's the most beautiful time

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of year. So it's the dry rainy season or the

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windy season. We get the best rainbows during

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that time of year. It's absolutely stunningly

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gorgeous. I've been here for about two and a

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half years. We moved down in 2022 with six suitcases

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and the dog. We sold everything we owned. Okay,

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let's start for the beginning because I like

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I am so excited. Everyone just got a cup of coffee

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or hot chocolate or tea, sit back because we're

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going to be here for about four hours. Okay,

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so all right. So where were you living? Where

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were you born? I just want to go back to I was

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born in New Jersey We were only there for six

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months, but you know my my parents I grew up

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and all over the place because my parents got

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divorced when I was five and so my mother went

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into the military to pay the bills and so I Helped

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her go through her nursing classes. So I was

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her study buddy from age six to seven for her

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nursing degree and All of Grey's anatomy is in

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the back of my head somewhere. So every so often,

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something complex medical term will come up and

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I'll be like, oh, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And they're like, how did you know that? I'm

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like, three seconds ago, I did not know that.

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The back of my brain just dug it up and spat

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it out for you. But yeah, that's part of what

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I what I do as a healer is is I have you know

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Grey's Anatomy in the back of my head. I have

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a Shiatsu certification I have a I have knowledge

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of Chinese medicine and I'm a reiki master teacher

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Although I don't use that anymore. I'm a shaman

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and a sound healer and You know, I I do a lot

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of healing work. So yeah, we definitely need

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to talk about what a shaman is, but I just want

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to go back to earlier days. I think my I think

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my speakers stopped working. Give me a second.

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I'll turn it off. That happens periodically.

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All right, let's see if we can get it back. Oh,

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let me hear you. Sounds great. Hey, I can hear

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you now. So that's good. Okay, speakers to hear

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me. Okay. Yeah. So so you went to so at what

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point did you know that you have spiritual blood

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and that you want to be a shaman or you want

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to do more in your life than just go to school

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and study plumbing. So my mother said I was talking

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to ghosts in my crib. Yeah. Why? Why? Why? Why?

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Why? What? So what she said was she had been

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psychic when she was a child and it had scared

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her and she shut it down and she was absolutely

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committed to the fact that she did not want that

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to happen to me. And so she immediately started

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doing, you know, buying books and tapes and taking

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me to classes. And so I was raised on Seth and

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Ram Dass and Abraham Hicks and JC Knight and

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you name it, I probably studied it. My mom brought

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home Est, which was the precursor to the landmark

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forum, the not kinder, gentler version of the

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landmark forum. And she brought that home when

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I was six years old. And so I've been doing this

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work. I was doing self -hypnosis by the time

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I was 10, reading tarot cards by the time I was

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12, psychic development classes, you name it.

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We did this whole thing. And so people are like,

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well, when did you start coaching? And I'm like,

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well, I actually have a high school yearbook

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signature that reads like a client testimonial.

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So this isn't what I do. It's who I am. Right?

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Oh, I love that. This is not what I do. It's

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who I am. And you were able to understand it

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because your mom. Okay, so let me ask this question

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then, because I'm really curious. How does it

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go? Like, is it hereditary? Well, so everybody's

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a little psychic. Okay, let's start with that.

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Its psychic ability is a skill. It's a muscle.

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right? So the more you practice it, the stronger

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it gets. Now, much like with a piano player,

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right? Some people can study and study and study,

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and they can do remarkably well technically,

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but they don't get the the artistry or whatever,

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you know, so there's going to be some people

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like that, there's going to be some people who

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don't care about Piano and aren't ever gonna

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learn it and some people who just have a deaf

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Tony or you know their their tone deaf, right?

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And then there's gonna be the prodigies, right?

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So in the spiritual world I would be considered

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a prodigy because I started so very young and

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Because I actually had it on both sides of my

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family. My father would have told you absolutely

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that he was not psychic But the man read people

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like a open book and he would say no I'm like,

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no, you were saying things about them that you

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have no right to know. But he would never admit

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that that was true. But he was absolutely psychic.

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Are they alive? No, they've both passed. Yeah.

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Are they visit you? Sometimes. Sometimes. My

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dad. So my dad was the funniest. So my mom, I

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felt my mom leave. I felt her rip out of the

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cells of my body. I didn't know what it was when

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it happened because I was in the middle of moving.

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But when I got the phone call that she had passed,

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I was like, ah, that's what that was, right?

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So my mom comes to see me sometimes. My dad doesn't

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come to see me as often because we had our reconciliation.

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So my dad and I had a very challenged relationship

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during our lifetime. And when he passed, I was

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at his funeral and It is so hard to be a medium

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at a funeral. Can I just tell you this because

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yes, please tell me everything dead are so irreverent

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My dad is sitting in this packed church. I mean

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just packed like they put people They put people

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to wanted to come to the funeral in the choir

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seats because there was not enough room because

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he had been in this town for forever and he was

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just Mr. Social right packed church and you know

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my stepmother and you know she says this is what

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he wanted I don't know I wasn't I nobody even

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told me he was dying so um but he he had said

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he didn't want anything special for his funeral

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whatever he's sitting his ghost is sitting in

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the funeral going party party party I'm like

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oh my god would you please shut up I'm trying

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to listen to the service party. I'm like, okay,

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dad, thank you. Yeah, he was party animal. But

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my dad and I had a very challenged relationship.

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And so what happened when he crossed over, aside

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from the funeral, was he came to me and I got

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to see him as my soul family. Right? We got to

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see him as that member of my soul family. And

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so we incarnate with our soul family. There's

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a group of people that, you know, they're sort

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of like your crew, right? And you come to the

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planet and you take different roles. So think

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of it like an acting troupe. And they play different

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roles in different plays, right? And so in different

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lifetimes, you'll play different roles. So I'll

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be the daughter and she'll be the mother and

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he'll be the father. And then, you know, the

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father becomes the brother and the mother becomes

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the best friend. And, you know, I mean, it's

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just in different lifetimes, right? So we all

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come together in different lifetimes in different

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roles. And so You know, I got to see him not

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as the role of my dad But I got to see him as

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my soul family member when he crossed over and

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he came to me with so much pure love for me and

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there was You know, that was a big challenge

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in our relationship was that you know, we barely

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knew each other in this life and It was a big

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challenge in my younger years around, you know,

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picking men who were emotionally unavailable

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and or physically absent because they matched

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my dad, right? And so when he crossed over and

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he came to me with that pure love and saying,

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you know, I played this role so that you would

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become this person. And I was like, I know, I

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know, and it's so lovely to feel you, right?

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Because I've missed you, right? And so there

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was there was a huge reconciliation that happened

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when he passed for me. And that was, you know,

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so I don't I don't see him very often because

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he's sort of stepped into his next piece of of

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the puzzle for himself. But I love this. OK,

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your mom, your mom, your mom, my mom, my mom.

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OK, my mom and I grew up together. It was the

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two of us against the world. That's what she

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used to say because it was Helen Reddy song back

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in the day because I love Helen. Yep, I was raised

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in the 70s and 80s and so um and so she was military

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we moved every year to two years and uh so I

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spent my childhood hopping from place to place

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and she always encouraged me to let go of the

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previous place so that I could really be present

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in the new place which was good but it was also

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bad because I always I never had long -term friends

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until I hit college right and so um But you know,

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I learned how to walk into a room and fit in

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immediately. It's one of my superpowers because

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if I didn't learn how to make friends quickly,

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then I wouldn't ever make friends, right? And

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so my husband laughs. He's like, you make a new

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best friend everywhere you go. He's not wrong.

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I made a new best friend in line at Starbucks

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in Grand Central Station in New York City. If

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you can make a friend there, you can make a friend

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anywhere. Oh, I just love this. Your girls are

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not friendly. This is so awesome. So your mom

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and visiting you? She visits every now and again.

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You know, she tries to, she comes in to help

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me out with different things, but mostly I'm

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working with my guides, right? So, you know,

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I've got a long standing relationship with my

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guides and I have a big interaction with them.

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But yeah, she's available if I need her. My mom

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too. So let's go. OK, so I'm going to take a

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little bit of your time to say, so my mom, I

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used to lie with my mom and say, will you come

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and visit me? Will you want me? And she said,

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yes, she would. And so I've always felt after

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my mom passed, I always, and we're Jewish, so

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my dad had sent me over to relieve the rabbi.

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So I got to spend some time with my mom and her

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body. But so there's been some times. I've always

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had spiritual. I know everyone's like, Adrienne

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Barker, is that you? Yes, because I do believe

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because people around me have seen it. But when

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my mom passed away, it was just a little different.

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And then it was always kind of like once I realized

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it was my mom. Because one day I had moved and

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it was, you know, whatever was going on, but

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my daughter was staying at someone's house and

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I wasn't like comfortable. I was new to the Daytona

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area. I was sitting here to open up our fifth

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art gallery and I felt my mom, I just knew immediately

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she tucked me in. I could feel the sheet, I could

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feel her. But it was still a scary too, by the

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way. It's not like you know, but then you don't

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know. There were a lot of things that were taking

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place. And employees of my parents that said

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to me that they went both past, they visited

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their gallery, which they love, the people. But

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it got to the point where I would be like, Mom,

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please, I'm sorry to ask you, but can I get a

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parking space? I was scared to feel around. And

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my husband would just roll his eyes. But it was

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just a couple of weeks ago. I said mom it's pouring

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rain. Could you just stop the rain until we like

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take our groceries in and then It just stopped

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like literally after it stopped until we literally

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pulled our groceries out walked under and it

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started again So and then I went to this event

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called creative con Julie loken put it together

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It's an amazing event was in Chicago and Marcella

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who had done a reading with me before she was

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doing some readings with other people and Yeah,

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I'm really proud of myself that I believe this

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and I'm like honest because some people for years

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it was like you don't want to say anything because

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people are like like and if you don't if this

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makes you not like me I'm totally understanding

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about it because it is something I've had to

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like understand myself. So Marcella she's giving

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a reading to someone else I'm just sitting by

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listening and enjoying relaxing and she's like

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your mom won't leave me alone. And I'm like,

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that doesn't like my mom. And she's like, she

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keeps asking questions. She's around. And then

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later in the day, I ran into her again. And she's

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like, your mom told me she didn't like what I

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was wearing. And my mom would have exactly said

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the same thing. She was very flowy and gypsy

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like. I love it, but my mom would not like that.

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She was very much like, we're fitted no matter

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what your body size is. You wear fitted and nice

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clothes. Even if you only own one nice outfit,

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we're that outfit, right? So I was like, that

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does sound like my mom. But it was an amazing

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feeling. And so once I got over that, like, not

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wanting to tell people or wondering what people

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are going to say. I really, I have run into other

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like, like just happenings where I'm like, oh

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gosh, you know, where I've been up all night

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and people are like, what happened to you? And

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I'm like, I had a sighting last night, it wasn't

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good, but I will tell you my mom, my son, Rudy.

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in Mexico, he got married. in the sand in the

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beach, r the beach was crazy. The we're not talking

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like a talking a resort with a long b like right

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around. And so he tried to put some ring would

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be, there was couldn't find the rocks. He we

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saw that some guy was doing the what do they

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call it metal detector? Yeah. Yep. And Rudy did

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ask it before he's like, Hey, I lost my wedding

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ring. Do you think if you have someone that could

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come over they're like the next day. So the next

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day the water was crazy couldn't go in it but

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around 430 it calmed down Rudy echo Rudy the

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guy was over there with a metal detector. Right

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before Rudy walked up to him the guy picked something

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up put it in his pocket Rudy said hey, I've lost

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my wedding ring the guys like did you call Rudy

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said? Yes, the guy pulls it out. I mean talk

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about Like just it was weird. So anyway, so I

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we my family believes they understand so when

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I say it so let's talk about that How difficult

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is it like when do you know not to say something

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when someone is absolutely a non -believer? Oh,

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I don't not say something I am who I am right?

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So I lived in Richmond, Virginia before we moved

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here and we were there for four years and You

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know half the time I would say I'm a shaman and

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people would say oh my god That's so cool and

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the other half the time they say my pastor says

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that's of the devil and I'm like Okay, but the

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devil is a Christian construct and I'm not a

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Christian and so I don't buy into that pantheon

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So I can't worship your deity and they were like

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What? What exactly is a shaman? And the first

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time I really heard the word was during the capital

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thing where the shaman. And I'm like, oh. And

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I do have a girl. I love Diana, who's a shaman

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in California. But can you explain what that

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is? Yeah. So I'm going to start with, if you

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ask 100 shamans what a shaman is, you're going

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to get 100 different answers. OK. So we'll start

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with that. The word shaman comes out of Russia.

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It's a really old term But it basically if you

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think of medicine man or medicine woman That's

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generally what the concept of the shaman is the

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the idea is that they act as a translator between

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the spiritual world and the physical world and

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they They are in service to the healing and the

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up leveling of their tribe, right? So for me

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what that means is I do I am the initiator. I

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stand at the doorway and I open the door and

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I invite people to come across the threshold

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into the new experience of life. That is who

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I am in the world. And that involves doing sometimes

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mediumships, sometimes channeling, sometimes

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psychic stuff, sometimes spiritual work, sometimes

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energy healing, sometimes sound healing. I do

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a lot of coaching and a lot of teaching. For

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me, what I'm doing is I'm up leveling people

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and thus the planet. And that is, I'm bringing

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people into a higher vibration and into a happier

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place. I just love this. Okay. So now, if you

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believe it can bring you hope, right? It could

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do good things. So I know someone who passed

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away and had no belief in like any kind of spirituality

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and They passed in a lot of fear and and you

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know, and we I was fearful like I'm not gonna

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say, you know Say hi to this person or say hello

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or you're gonna be you know, you just there was

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no conversation like that But I but I saw the

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fear like well there is when you're a believer

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isn't it like healthy and good for you Depends

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on how you look at it. I mean so my friend Shelley

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Campbell has the best way of saying this that

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I've ever heard she said look she said you can't

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know what's on the other side which I disbelieve

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because I talk to people on the other side all

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the time so I feel like I know but she says you

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can't know what's on the other side she said

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so you can choose to believe the thing that'll

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make you miserable or you can choose to believe

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the thing that'll make you happy and either way

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you can't know so why not pick the thing that

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makes you happy right Yeah, which I thought was

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the best thing ever right because I don't I don't

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like to class judgment on people but You know,

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so people could have whatever belief structure

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they want but but my experience has been that

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if you've ever watched the movie what dreams

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may come That movie is incredible is incredibly

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accurate And it's a Robin Williams film from

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the 90s. Oh, I'm just putting in the chat. Yeah

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From the 90s. Oh my god. This is so I just I'm

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this is part of what I love is that I don't know

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who's on so like I And it's so funny everyone

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because when I like yeah, I have my computer

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here and I forgot I got this book communicating

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with spirits and I just I just I've always been

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fascinated Always been a believer always love

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it have paid. Oh, so wait, so the difference

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between a psychic and a shaman shaman, so Psychic

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is an ability. Shaman is a calling. I want to

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write this down. Psychic is an ability. Yeah,

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and a shaman is a calling. SHMN is a calling.

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So let me put it to you this way. So a psychic

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is very general term. I mean, it's like a super

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general term because there are so many different

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psychic skills, right? So you would call somebody

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a psychic who could I actually break psychic

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skills into four different categories. There's

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traveler, messenger, sensor, and energy manipulator,

00:21:06.180 --> 00:21:10.079
right? And so, you know, they do very different

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things. But in a lot of cases, people would still

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call them psychic, right? So, you know, it's

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a very general term where a shaman It's so funny.

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People are like, I want to be a shaman. I'm like,

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no, you don't. You don't want to be a shaman.

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Being a shaman is like being dragged by the neck,

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thrown to the ground, and claimed and said, you're

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mine. You're going to do what I tell you, and

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you're going to follow this, and you're going

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to do your inner work, whether you like it or

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not, because you've got to stay ahead. You've

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got to walk your path, or you're not useful to

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anybody, right? It is a constant path of growth

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and evolution whether you like it or not, right?

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And so it is I didn't choose to be a shaman and

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all the good all the the real shamans I know

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none of them chose to be shamans they had an

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experience where they were called to it and They

00:22:01.589 --> 00:22:05.019
they just were like, okay You know, you choose

00:22:05.019 --> 00:22:06.980
it before you come into the life, right? You

00:22:06.980 --> 00:22:09.480
do choose it before you come in. But once you're

00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:16.400
in the life, it is a calling. My husband got

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home and he just doesn't know how to be quiet

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at all. And this is a fake smile, actually. Your

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eyes. are beautiful. They look blue. And as we're

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talking, I'm like, oh my god, your eyes, like

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people, it's like a look into a soul to it's

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very pretty. Well, not a bad soul, a good soul.

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Very, very pretty. Oh my gosh. Okay. So, well,

00:22:37.029 --> 00:22:39.809
I'm going to go back. So now, so okay, so what

00:22:39.809 --> 00:22:42.730
brought you to Panama? What was going on? So

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2022 happened, right? So we were coming out of

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COVID. and coming out bent into the world. And

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I lived in Richmond, Virginia, which was capital

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of Confederacy and, you know, highly purple state.

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And just so my husband and I had both always

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wanted to live internationally our whole lives

00:23:01.089 --> 00:23:03.390
before we ever met. That was something we wanted.

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But in 2020 to 2022, the energies in the US became

00:23:09.250 --> 00:23:13.710
so toxic. The people hate each other energy,

00:23:13.950 --> 00:23:16.869
right? It's not like that now. Yeah, right. Yeah,

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so not talking politics just you know the the

00:23:19.789 --> 00:23:22.829
divisiveness right and the energy of that was

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just so Harsh and overwhelming. I was just like

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I gotta go like we wanted to live internationally.

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This is the time Let's just do it because we

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had been through so much with COVID because my

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husband was a customer service rep for a for

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financial services company and so all the people

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who were You know having a hard time with their

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finances and trying to get their money out and

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so he was dealing with that every single day

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and just in so much You know angst over it because

00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:51.859
he always wants to be helpful and whatever and

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it was just the the stress levels were through

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the roof, right? And so even my dog, okay? So

00:23:58.900 --> 00:24:03.039
our dog was a boxer pit bull mix. He's passed

00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.859
now, but, but he had boxer colitis when we lived

00:24:07.859 --> 00:24:10.039
in Richmond, which means he was bleeding out

00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.180
his butt, right? He was just not doing well.

00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.799
We had to feed him people food, bland, the whole

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thing. And anytime there was a thunderstorm,

00:24:18.430 --> 00:24:21.730
he had to be tranquilized because he would literally

00:24:21.730 --> 00:24:25.089
try to climb the door to get out. And he just

00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:29.730
could not be soothed. We moved to Panama. The

00:24:29.730 --> 00:24:33.789
dog ate regular kibble, never had a problem.

00:24:35.309 --> 00:24:37.430
Thunderstorms like you cannot believe here. I

00:24:37.430 --> 00:24:39.690
mean, we live in the tropics, right? So these

00:24:39.690 --> 00:24:44.210
thunderstorms are intense. And, you know, he

00:24:44.210 --> 00:24:47.259
was fine. No problem. No tranquilization required.

00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:50.200
We built him a little fort and he went in there

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for a while and then after a while, he didn't

00:24:52.019 --> 00:24:55.599
even need to do that. That's the difference in

00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.319
the level of stress there versus here. Okay,

00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:01.210
so you mentioned retreats. I'm all ears. Yeah,

00:25:01.250 --> 00:25:04.190
so I do a couple of different kinds of retreats.

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I have a group retreat that happens once a year

00:25:07.230 --> 00:25:11.309
in in Bukethi here. It's a seven -day six -night

00:25:11.309 --> 00:25:13.589
retreat here in Bukethi Panama called Adventures

00:25:13.589 --> 00:25:16.710
in Energetics. It is custom designed around the

00:25:16.710 --> 00:25:21.980
participants. It is a small group and we do three

00:25:21.980 --> 00:25:25.380
hours of education and a ritual every single

00:25:25.380 --> 00:25:28.539
day of that time. And then we also get to spend

00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:32.380
time doing tours and seeing the area and being

00:25:32.380 --> 00:25:35.759
able to integrate. And it's held, I put people

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:39.660
up at a spa called The Haven, where there's a

00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:42.880
hot tub in the jungle underneath a thatched roof

00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:46.940
next to a river. I'm going there for Friday morning.

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I'm taking Friday off and I'm going to go there.

00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.640
And they've got a resistance pool that you can

00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.119
reserve for 45 minutes. They've got a full spa

00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.099
services, infrared sauna, steam room, workout

00:26:01.099 --> 00:26:04.099
room. And the venue is gorgeous. And it comes

00:26:04.099 --> 00:26:05.839
with breakfast, which is some of the best breakfast

00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:09.160
in town. And it's just, it's an amazing site.

00:26:09.819 --> 00:26:13.200
And I do the event itself at my house. So I bring

00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.740
people into my home. We do cacao ceremony. We

00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:20.359
do Kundalini awakening. We do chanting. We do

00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:25.759
so much stuff. Sound healing, blessings, shamanic

00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:30.839
journey, all of it. And it's very interesting

00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.539
because I've been doing retreats for 30 years.

00:26:34.220 --> 00:26:37.369
And the group that came in November now, We had

00:26:37.369 --> 00:26:39.710
torrential rains the whole time they were here.

00:26:39.930 --> 00:26:43.569
They did not see sun a single day. And they all

00:26:43.569 --> 00:26:45.990
were just in love. And they're all like, I can't

00:26:45.990 --> 00:26:47.630
wait to come back to Panama. I can't wait to

00:26:47.630 --> 00:26:49.990
come back. And we had landslides. The roads got

00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:51.789
washed out. I mean, it was like the worst weather

00:26:51.789 --> 00:26:55.980
I have seen since I've been here. And they were

00:26:55.980 --> 00:26:58.000
just like, Oh my God, it's so good. I have to

00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.059
come back. I have to come back. And so, you know,

00:27:01.099 --> 00:27:03.180
I just actually talked to one of them yesterday

00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:06.200
and she's like, I'm coming. I don't, I don't

00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.759
know when I'm coming soon. I'm like, okay. So.

00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.180
And that brings me to the personal retreats.

00:27:13.420 --> 00:27:15.880
So I do personal retreats. I also do private

00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.779
retreats and there's a difference, right? So

00:27:17.779 --> 00:27:20.619
personal retreat means you show up, you've got

00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:22.779
four days to spend with me. You can do it over,

00:27:23.059 --> 00:27:24.980
if you wanna come for 10 days or seven days,

00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.119
we can do four days of work together during that

00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:28.700
time. You can have the rest of the time off and

00:27:28.700 --> 00:27:31.099
that's fine. Or we can do it all in one fell

00:27:31.099 --> 00:27:34.930
swoop, right? It's fine. But if somebody else

00:27:34.930 --> 00:27:37.789
is in town at the same time, I may put you guys

00:27:37.789 --> 00:27:41.269
together. And because I trust the universe that

00:27:41.269 --> 00:27:44.309
the synergy is going to be there, right? And

00:27:44.309 --> 00:27:46.150
so, you know, you'll probably get some private

00:27:46.150 --> 00:27:49.069
stuff and some group, some together stuff, but

00:27:49.069 --> 00:27:51.990
it's just it's very intuitive process. And it's

00:27:51.990 --> 00:27:54.730
just we go where the energy takes us and we do

00:27:54.730 --> 00:27:58.859
what needs to be done. And the So if you want

00:27:58.859 --> 00:28:01.200
to guarantee your time to yourself that I have

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.119
a private retreat as well, and then I set aside

00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.420
the time, it says solely yours, but that's obviously

00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:09.200
more expensive than the other one. But yeah,

00:28:09.259 --> 00:28:12.339
so I do that and, you know, people can extend

00:28:12.339 --> 00:28:14.980
if they want more days, but four days with me

00:28:14.980 --> 00:28:17.339
on, you know, one on one or even two on one,

00:28:17.460 --> 00:28:20.059
that's a lot. Four days is usually enough for

00:28:20.059 --> 00:28:24.329
people. So for your group one, because my three

00:28:24.329 --> 00:28:27.170
listeners that I have, but the three fans that

00:28:27.170 --> 00:28:29.349
like me enough, they're probably thinking to

00:28:29.349 --> 00:28:33.250
themselves, does she do micro dosing? I'm always

00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:36.150
curious about that. Is that just in the movies?

00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:39.869
No, there are a lot of people who do that. I

00:28:39.869 --> 00:28:44.569
don't do plant medicine. But you won't need it.

00:28:44.910 --> 00:28:48.390
You won't need it with me. I give you the experience

00:28:48.390 --> 00:28:52.880
without throwing up. How do you know the person

00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.859
will be right for you? What if someone said,

00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:57.299
oh, you need to go. And I'm like, I don't want

00:28:57.299 --> 00:28:58.579
to go. I don't want to go. And they're like pushing

00:28:58.579 --> 00:29:00.240
me to go and they pay for it. And I'm like, oh

00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.920
my god, I guess I have to go. Do you want the

00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.319
person that's open or the person that is not

00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.839
a believer go? What does that look like? So most

00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.259
of the people who come to my events are people

00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:17.279
who are So for the for the personal retreats,

00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.880
it's it runs the gamut, right? But typically

00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.839
somebody's not gonna come for a personal retreat

00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.400
with a shaman unless they want to right It's

00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.200
not something you get pressured into usually

00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.720
because the the pushback on that is pretty intense

00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.380
Like a friend like what if I said and the friends

00:29:32.380 --> 00:29:37.220
like I'll go but I don't believe and Yeah, they

00:29:37.220 --> 00:29:39.900
will usually find a reason not to come It's so

00:29:39.900 --> 00:29:42.799
interesting. Yeah, it's so here's the thing when

00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.140
when you are coming into connection with somebody

00:29:48.140 --> 00:29:50.319
like me who carries the energy of transformation,

00:29:51.059 --> 00:29:52.799
I have a friend of mine, she and I work together

00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.839
a lot in these retreats and we have this joke

00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.039
that we need to wear t -shirts to say, warning,

00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.920
transformation, event horizon, 15 feet, stay

00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:03.660
back, right? Because you don't have to actually

00:30:03.660 --> 00:30:07.539
interact for the energy to engage with you, right?

00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.720
And so typically if somebody is in this sort

00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:15.160
of resistant phase of, you know, And for one,

00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:16.859
they're not going to spend the money at that

00:30:16.859 --> 00:30:19.539
level. And if they do, they're going to find

00:30:19.539 --> 00:30:22.319
a reason. They'll get sick. They'll have their

00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.779
car breakdown on the way to the airport. Their

00:30:24.779 --> 00:30:28.119
flight will get canceled. Something will happen

00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:32.119
that will keep them from coming because they

00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:36.079
really don't want the transformation. That's

00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.720
their resistance showing up and creating the

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.779
barrier. It's not me. It's their resistance.

00:30:42.619 --> 00:30:44.980
And so, you know, they can feel, this is the

00:30:44.980 --> 00:30:47.299
thing I tell people about joining programs and,

00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.559
you know, attending retreats and whatever. If

00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.960
you look at something and you feel like it's

00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.900
yummy, then you'll probably have a good time.

00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.160
Right? If you look at something and you go, meh,

00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.880
it's probably not going to do anything. If you

00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.000
look at something and you're a combination of

00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.740
excited and scared, that's going to change you.

00:31:09.900 --> 00:31:14.170
Interesting. So before we go, because I want

00:31:14.170 --> 00:31:17.029
to make sure you talk about your podcasts, your

00:31:17.029 --> 00:31:21.609
book, and your website looks amazing. So transformation

00:31:21.609 --> 00:31:24.109
of what? Am I going to transform to a butterfly?

00:31:24.470 --> 00:31:27.650
Like what does that look like? So think of it

00:31:27.650 --> 00:31:29.769
this way, right? My friend Kathy has a beautiful

00:31:29.769 --> 00:31:32.650
metaphor for this. She says that we are all artisanal

00:31:32.650 --> 00:31:37.420
wells. We're springs. And we are the water that

00:31:37.420 --> 00:31:40.599
springs forth from these wells. And we flow freely

00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.880
and we exist in abundance. And then the world

00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.839
happens and garbage gets layered on top of our

00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.180
spring until eventually so much garbage gets

00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:54.559
layered that the spring stops springing forth.

00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.099
And then so much gets layered that it actually

00:31:57.099 --> 00:32:01.069
sinks down and now the rain fills the well. And

00:32:01.069 --> 00:32:03.789
now we think we are these limited creatures that

00:32:03.789 --> 00:32:07.430
are the rainwater that is sometimes full and

00:32:07.430 --> 00:32:10.410
sometimes empty. But we're not. We're the spring

00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:14.009
that's underneath the garbage. And so what I

00:32:14.009 --> 00:32:17.970
do is I pull out the garbage so that we bring

00:32:17.970 --> 00:32:21.029
the spring forth again. So when I say transformation,

00:32:21.490 --> 00:32:26.470
it's transforming your idea of who you are back

00:32:26.470 --> 00:32:28.970
to the point where you know yourself to be the

00:32:28.970 --> 00:32:33.069
spring. That's beautiful. Yeah, that is beautiful.

00:32:33.269 --> 00:32:36.309
You're beautiful. Okay. Sorry. Oh my god. I just

00:32:36.309 --> 00:32:39.430
I think I just fell in love Okay, so question

00:32:39.430 --> 00:32:43.009
on gratitude because I am a believer about gratitude

00:32:43.009 --> 00:32:47.630
I I don't do anything without thanking my spirit

00:32:47.630 --> 00:32:49.529
guidelines and I have gone on like YouTube to

00:32:49.529 --> 00:32:51.630
listen like listen Or Spotify or whatever to

00:32:51.630 --> 00:32:53.789
listen to like meditation so I could thank them

00:32:53.789 --> 00:32:55.710
But just literally I'll just say thank you so

00:32:55.710 --> 00:32:59.720
much no matter like what is taking place though

00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:03.259
I do feel that I don't know who it is, you know,

00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.579
because it happened way long before my parents,

00:33:05.980 --> 00:33:08.160
just someone guiding not just myself, either

00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:11.259
my whole entire family, keeping my children safe

00:33:11.259 --> 00:33:14.559
where things were just that close. But then so,

00:33:15.059 --> 00:33:20.220
but I would like to know if like, is that something

00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:21.779
that people like, is that a good thing to do?

00:33:21.859 --> 00:33:23.380
Like the gratitude? Like, what does that look

00:33:23.380 --> 00:33:26.519
like? Right. So, so there's sort of two questions

00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:28.200
in there. So I'm going to answer them both. So

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:32.180
the first one is Everyone has spirit guides and

00:33:32.180 --> 00:33:36.000
everyone has a guardian angel and So your guardian

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:39.160
angel is job is to keep you safe and your spirit

00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.799
guides are there to help you I think of them

00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.980
like my staff Right there. You know, I'm doing

00:33:44.980 --> 00:33:47.440
the hard job on the of being on the planet and

00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.259
there there is my support team Right and so,

00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.920
you know, there are so many spirit guides people

00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.519
think oh, I've got one or two. No, no, there

00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.480
are hundreds of spirit guides, right? And you

00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.039
tend to have a closer relationship with a few

00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.099
of them, but there's a whole team of guides out

00:34:04.099 --> 00:34:06.740
there. And they're all there to help you get

00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:08.920
where you're going. And this is the challenge

00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:10.780
is that people often look at the universe and

00:34:10.780 --> 00:34:14.199
they say, this is my parent energy. And I do

00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.079
what my parent tells me. And the problem is that

00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.699
the universe is your partner, not your parent.

00:34:20.300 --> 00:34:23.920
Okay, and so you have to tell the universe what

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.000
you want right? We provide the destination and

00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.579
the motivation the universe provides the navigation

00:34:29.579 --> 00:34:33.000
So we don't the how is not our problem right

00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.699
the universe provides the how so you say I want

00:34:35.699 --> 00:34:39.789
to I want to move to Panama Right? And so the

00:34:39.789 --> 00:34:42.570
universe says, or I want to move internationally,

00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:44.530
right? And I start doing research and I want

00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:46.690
to whatever my friend says, Hey, I've been researching

00:34:46.690 --> 00:34:49.269
Panama for, you know, the last three years and

00:34:49.269 --> 00:34:50.989
I'm going on a tour there. Would you like to

00:34:50.989 --> 00:34:53.269
think about moving to Panama? I could tell you

00:34:53.269 --> 00:34:55.289
where you'd be happiest. You won't even have

00:34:55.289 --> 00:34:57.920
to go on. I'm like. Yeah, that's great. Thanks.

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.639
And she did. And we are, right? And so, you know,

00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:03.659
that's what happens is that you, you know, we

00:35:03.659 --> 00:35:05.460
started doing the research, we started looking

00:35:05.460 --> 00:35:07.780
at things, we started contemplating, and then

00:35:07.780 --> 00:35:11.000
the answer showed up, right? And so that's what

00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.360
happens. But the gratitude, going back to the

00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:19.380
question, the gratitude is the foundational energy

00:35:19.380 --> 00:35:24.500
from which positive manifestation flows. Okay.

00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.320
When we are one more time on that one. Yeah gratitude

00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.500
is a positive energy from which manifestation

00:35:31.500 --> 00:35:37.860
flows positive energy from which manifestation

00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:43.039
flows Sorry, but your words are just like I'm

00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:44.679
channeling. I've never said those words before

00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:51.099
in my life. So amazing But the what happens is

00:35:51.099 --> 00:35:56.409
that we gratitude is the the core essence of

00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.610
manifestation because when you are standing in

00:35:59.610 --> 00:36:02.010
gratitude, you are standing in a place of already

00:36:02.010 --> 00:36:08.309
having what you want. Manifestation isn't an

00:36:08.309 --> 00:36:11.230
act of drawing something in to bring it to you.

00:36:11.369 --> 00:36:14.389
It is literally the act of becoming in alignment

00:36:14.389 --> 00:36:18.800
with the thing that you desire. And that's not

00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:21.300
through engaging the desire for it, but through

00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:24.679
engaging the gratitude for it. Because engaging

00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.780
the desire for the thing gets you more desire,

00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:33.360
not more of the thing. Okay, I gotta read your

00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:38.320
book. So one more. So I never believed like,

00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:40.260
oh, that was a coink and dink. I'm always like,

00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:43.260
no, that's like what we are where we are. But

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:46.920
I'm a believer in karma. Like I do have to say,

00:36:47.380 --> 00:36:51.360
I can, I can, I don't even know if it's called

00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.719
man, if things happen, like I'm always protected.

00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.099
So I thank you again. But I do feel that I do

00:36:59.099 --> 00:37:02.280
karma. And then in all honesty, sorry guys, close

00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.739
your ears if you, because this may be hard to

00:37:04.739 --> 00:37:08.690
say, but um people that are kind of like miserable

00:37:08.690 --> 00:37:12.130
and unhappy and have like a lot of negative things

00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:14.369
happen to them they scare me because i get nervous

00:37:14.369 --> 00:37:17.210
if i go to close to them that'll rub off on me

00:37:17.210 --> 00:37:19.469
like i don't want like you know like misery loves

00:37:19.469 --> 00:37:23.309
company and so as i get older i realize ooh i

00:37:23.309 --> 00:37:26.619
don't want to Have that energy and it really

00:37:26.619 --> 00:37:29.059
does help is that am I thinking normal and if

00:37:29.059 --> 00:37:30.679
you have to go I'm so sorry I don't want to I

00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.780
just I'm just making sure I know I have another

00:37:32.780 --> 00:37:41.420
appointment on the back end here So the so Yes

00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:46.619
Negativity is does catch right negativity is

00:37:46.619 --> 00:37:49.679
an energy and you can get slimed with it, right?

00:37:51.579 --> 00:37:54.559
And that's you know, it's it's a low vibrational

00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:00.539
energy and we physically so Physical reality

00:38:00.539 --> 00:38:03.300
is a very low vibration, which it has to be in

00:38:03.300 --> 00:38:06.519
order to exist right if we vibrated super fast

00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:11.179
at physical rate, we would blow apart right However

00:38:11.179 --> 00:38:16.940
Negativity is very low energy and so negativity

00:38:16.940 --> 00:38:22.400
it impacts the physical body much more easily

00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:27.320
than the spiritual positivity, whatever, whatever.

00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.239
I mean, not to say that they don't impact because

00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.239
they do, but because the body is physical and

00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.179
negative energy is low energy, it tends to like

00:38:36.179 --> 00:38:40.760
get in easily, right? And so, yeah, it's not

00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.929
wrong. You're not wrong. I have this thing I

00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:46.070
say, look, I love everyone. I just love some

00:38:46.070 --> 00:38:48.949
people from further away than others. I love

00:38:48.949 --> 00:38:52.070
that. I love that. I love, okay. One last question.

00:38:52.170 --> 00:38:54.090
And then when I want to get into your podcast,

00:38:54.309 --> 00:38:56.449
your book and your, and how people can work with

00:38:56.449 --> 00:38:58.929
you. Okay. So I'm doing something that I've always

00:38:58.929 --> 00:39:01.829
wanted to do. I am now host with this wonderful

00:39:01.829 --> 00:39:05.489
human Joseph. And we host the debate, the news

00:39:05.489 --> 00:39:09.170
true crime. Like last night we were talking for

00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.519
90 minutes about Ted Bundy. None of that's gonna

00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:13.900
come back. Like, I'm like, oh my God, like just

00:39:13.900 --> 00:39:15.739
talking about it, like, first of all, he's evil

00:39:15.739 --> 00:39:17.880
monster. I can't even give him a human name because

00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.219
he's a monster in my mind. But that's not gonna

00:39:21.219 --> 00:39:22.880
come back. Like, is that a bad thing? Like, is

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.739
anyone like, like, I know that sounds so silly

00:39:25.739 --> 00:39:28.260
kind of, but I'm like, there is like, I could,

00:39:28.380 --> 00:39:31.059
I'm just sharing the story. There's people in

00:39:31.059 --> 00:39:34.320
the room. It's a podcast. But I really love doing

00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.360
it. Like I love the research and sharing the

00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.199
story. We do leave Cindy Stempo said always end

00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.780
it with lessons that can be learned. So we end

00:39:42.780 --> 00:39:45.599
it with lessons that we learn. But is that okay?

00:39:45.780 --> 00:39:49.239
I'm not upsetting any of my. So what I would

00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.000
say, and this is what I say to anybody who's

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.360
on a spiritual path is the very first thing you

00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.579
want to do before you start doing anything else

00:39:57.579 --> 00:40:00.019
is you want to set up some protections for yourself.

00:40:00.789 --> 00:40:02.989
Okay, you want to you want to be able to know

00:40:02.989 --> 00:40:05.130
how to hold your own energy which I have on my

00:40:05.130 --> 00:40:07.389
website that and it's a free e -course It's called

00:40:07.389 --> 00:40:09.250
boundaries for empaths is on the home page of

00:40:09.250 --> 00:40:10.630
the website if you're looking on your mobile

00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:12.489
you got to scroll down a little bit look for

00:40:12.489 --> 00:40:17.409
the lady looking at the crystal and That is that

00:40:17.409 --> 00:40:19.889
teaches you how to hold your energy in a more

00:40:20.799 --> 00:40:23.460
healthy fashion. If you're an empath and you

00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:25.639
feel deeply what other people feel, you get run

00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.460
over by other people, strong emotions, you suck

00:40:27.460 --> 00:40:30.019
in crowds, you know, you just don't do well in

00:40:30.019 --> 00:40:32.199
crowds at all. You know, if all of those things

00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.099
are true for you, then the Boundaries for Empaths

00:40:34.099 --> 00:40:37.099
program will change your life, okay? And so that's

00:40:37.099 --> 00:40:39.260
step one. Step two is you need to learn how to

00:40:39.260 --> 00:40:42.889
put protections in place for you. Shields around

00:40:42.889 --> 00:40:45.210
you which won't work until you do the boundaries

00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:48.789
for impasse but peace by the way And then the

00:40:48.789 --> 00:40:50.630
you know, you also need to learn how to put up

00:40:50.630 --> 00:40:53.710
wards which are protections on your home Right

00:40:53.710 --> 00:40:57.750
now the reason you do this is because you know,

00:40:57.750 --> 00:41:00.230
sometimes we talk about things that invoke them,

00:41:00.309 --> 00:41:03.130
right? So you're talking about Ted Bundy. He's

00:41:03.130 --> 00:41:05.449
crossed over maybe his spirit might come to see

00:41:05.449 --> 00:41:07.889
you Right. You want to have a protection in your

00:41:07.889 --> 00:41:10.150
house on your house and on your person that says,

00:41:10.150 --> 00:41:12.170
no, you don't get to mess with me, Mr. Bundy.

00:41:12.250 --> 00:41:14.489
That's not how that works. Right. You want to

00:41:14.489 --> 00:41:16.730
have that protection in place. That's important.

00:41:17.570 --> 00:41:20.969
And so, you know, could you invoke that? Yeah,

00:41:20.989 --> 00:41:25.809
you could. It's possible. Is it likely? A lot

00:41:25.809 --> 00:41:27.809
of people talk about Ted Bundy. How many places

00:41:27.809 --> 00:41:29.550
is he really going to want to be at one time?

00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:34.269
I don't know. Right. So. You know, do I see him

00:41:34.269 --> 00:41:36.269
around you right now? No, I don't see him around

00:41:36.269 --> 00:41:38.909
you. But we're talking theoretical, right? You

00:41:38.909 --> 00:41:40.190
know, you're doing this for a lot of different

00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:42.510
things. It would be very smart for you to have

00:41:42.510 --> 00:41:44.469
some protections in place because you're talking

00:41:44.469 --> 00:41:46.630
about this stuff a lot. The other thing I would

00:41:46.630 --> 00:41:48.809
highly recommend is that you, when you're done,

00:41:49.329 --> 00:41:52.650
you clear your energy field and you sponge. Do

00:41:52.650 --> 00:41:56.489
you know what smudges? I think with sage. Yes.

00:41:56.909 --> 00:41:59.710
Yeah. So clear yourself, clear your room, clear

00:41:59.710 --> 00:42:03.449
everything, clear your equipment, right? All

00:42:03.449 --> 00:42:06.849
the things because that way you've taken the

00:42:06.849 --> 00:42:09.949
energy out of the room Wow, okay, beautiful.

00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:14.170
Oh, and then I also have I Got this is a beautiful

00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:18.510
gift. Oh, that's nice. One of my clients genuine

00:42:18.510 --> 00:42:24.289
crystal and Oh Nice, I should just put this on

00:42:24.289 --> 00:42:28.530
when I'm doing it and it's harmony the nature

00:42:28.530 --> 00:42:32.219
that will help me write to It's not protective.

00:42:32.820 --> 00:42:35.639
If you want it to be protective, you'd probably

00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:40.119
want to wear onyx or obsidian. Interesting. I

00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.480
just think it's so fascinating. And at 62, I'm

00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.420
finally able to talk about it. Yeah. I think

00:42:47.420 --> 00:42:50.360
that's a big thing. I just have to say, it is

00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:54.440
part of who I am. And I really, oh my gosh. And

00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.190
so do you do readings? I do. I do what's known

00:42:58.190 --> 00:43:00.710
as a spiritual evolution energy review. It's

00:43:00.710 --> 00:43:03.550
a chakra reading. And so what I do is I go in

00:43:03.550 --> 00:43:05.530
and I take a look at all, I took a look at your

00:43:05.530 --> 00:43:08.369
aura first and outside influences. And then we

00:43:08.369 --> 00:43:10.929
go into each chakra individually and we look

00:43:10.929 --> 00:43:13.150
at the blocks that are there and what the blocks

00:43:13.150 --> 00:43:14.690
are and how they're playing out in your life

00:43:14.690 --> 00:43:17.809
and what to do about them. And so it's specifically

00:43:17.809 --> 00:43:20.329
about how to get you from this level of your

00:43:20.329 --> 00:43:23.269
evolution to the next. I also do this for businesses.

00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.440
So if somebody's got a business, I will take

00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.480
a look at the energy of the business and do that

00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:31.900
as well. So if you're a solopreneur, it's an

00:43:31.900 --> 00:43:34.519
expanded personal read because your personal

00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:39.679
energy is in the business. If you're a business

00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.599
owner with a larger staff, then we have a separate

00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.559
reading entirely that I do around the business

00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:48.380
itself and how that works. And I've worked with,

00:43:49.460 --> 00:43:55.420
so an example, I had a client. who was doing

00:43:55.420 --> 00:43:58.519
consulting for EquityGig. He was going to go

00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.019
via CMO for a company. And he was going to pick

00:44:01.019 --> 00:44:03.760
up his whole family, move to another state. And

00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.320
he called me up just before he had already basically

00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.420
said yes, but he hadn't actually done it yet.

00:44:09.820 --> 00:44:13.199
And he said, what do you think? And I said, is

00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.380
this a family business? And he said, yeah, that's

00:44:16.380 --> 00:44:18.760
what I thought. I said, you need to ask some

00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.420
more questions about the finances. And he said,

00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:24.349
why? Some some member of the family is embezzling

00:44:24.349 --> 00:44:26.769
funds and the business is basically out of business

00:44:26.769 --> 00:44:29.409
and they don't even know it yet And he was like

00:44:29.409 --> 00:44:31.969
what and I'm like, yeah go ask some more questions

00:44:31.969 --> 00:44:34.409
about the business finances And he did and he

00:44:34.409 --> 00:44:36.969
they discovered that the uncle had been embezzling

00:44:36.969 --> 00:44:39.269
funds and had taken so much that their operating

00:44:39.269 --> 00:44:41.309
capital was gone and they closed in two weeks

00:44:41.309 --> 00:44:45.989
I Think it's so important like I I just all I

00:44:45.989 --> 00:44:48.369
could say is that it's a good feeling to be a

00:44:48.369 --> 00:44:51.789
believer One last question I last yeah of my

00:44:51.789 --> 00:44:56.449
last 25th questions that I had. I just want to

00:44:56.449 --> 00:44:58.969
support you in any way I can. I'm really excited.

00:44:59.530 --> 00:45:04.650
So I tend to I tend to I always say I feel like

00:45:04.650 --> 00:45:06.630
I'm a vampire sometimes I suck people's energy

00:45:06.630 --> 00:45:09.550
so like I could be so I'm using this new there's

00:45:09.550 --> 00:45:12.710
a new app called chatter chatter social so it's

00:45:12.710 --> 00:45:14.889
really lovely and you can see people and it's

00:45:14.889 --> 00:45:16.610
really fun and we're all on it together from

00:45:16.610 --> 00:45:19.389
all over the world even people from Panama and

00:45:19.389 --> 00:45:22.289
Like the other day like and even in real life

00:45:22.289 --> 00:45:24.889
if I'm just not feeling great I will like just

00:45:24.889 --> 00:45:28.500
I feel like I take people's energy and It's all

00:45:28.500 --> 00:45:30.900
good like I always just like and then and then

00:45:30.900 --> 00:45:33.000
I the more I get the faster I talk and the more

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:34.800
excited I get and I don't know if that's just

00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:38.619
like normal people things that we do or if I

00:45:38.619 --> 00:45:42.139
am Just sucking people's energy. I don't what

00:45:42.139 --> 00:45:46.139
is that? Yeah, so Let me ask you this. Are you

00:45:46.139 --> 00:45:48.340
feeling like you're sucking my energy right now?

00:45:48.820 --> 00:45:52.659
Yeah. Yeah, that's because I don't let you Okay,

00:45:52.659 --> 00:45:57.380
so here's the thing Being an energy vampire is

00:45:57.380 --> 00:45:59.519
a function of not having your crown and root

00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:02.719
chakras open and running properly. If you need

00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.940
to steal energy from other people, it's because

00:46:04.940 --> 00:46:07.340
you don't have access to universal source and

00:46:07.340 --> 00:46:10.619
grounding for yourself. That is easily fixed.

00:46:11.099 --> 00:46:14.659
On my YouTube channel, there's something called

00:46:14.659 --> 00:46:18.590
a tree meditation. And if you do the tree meditation

00:46:18.590 --> 00:46:21.469
multiple times a day like the three to four times

00:46:21.469 --> 00:46:24.550
a day for several weeks What you need what you're

00:46:24.550 --> 00:46:27.309
doing. So what happens is being closed on the

00:46:27.309 --> 00:46:30.909
root and crown chakra is a trauma response It

00:46:30.909 --> 00:46:33.369
says that you lived in an unsafe environment

00:46:33.369 --> 00:46:36.070
for a period of time that was long enough that

00:46:36.070 --> 00:46:39.369
it set that pattern for you And unsafe often

00:46:39.369 --> 00:46:43.489
means that it's emotionally unsafe or bullying

00:46:43.489 --> 00:46:47.309
or it could actually be a war zone for some people.

00:46:47.610 --> 00:46:50.650
But you felt unsafe for long enough that you

00:46:50.650 --> 00:46:53.010
set this pattern of being in the energetic fetal

00:46:53.010 --> 00:46:56.090
position. You shut everything down. And now you

00:46:56.090 --> 00:46:58.670
just have to train your energy field to open

00:46:58.670 --> 00:47:01.730
back up and to stay at that state. And then you

00:47:01.730 --> 00:47:03.750
will never need to steal anybody's energy ever

00:47:03.750 --> 00:47:06.949
again. Wow, I'm so glad I asked that question,

00:47:07.369 --> 00:47:09.369
which reminds me of like, it's so funny, like

00:47:09.369 --> 00:47:12.769
with Kawinka dinks where like, I won't, I usually

00:47:12.769 --> 00:47:15.260
don't ask someone. It's not like I go around,

00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.139
oh, you lost your mother. Has she visited you?

00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.659
Like, right? Or, oh, you lost your father. Have

00:47:18.659 --> 00:47:21.159
you seen them? But when I do ask that question,

00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.199
I'm always blown away by the answer I get. And

00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:26.539
that seems to happen a lot, too, where I just,

00:47:26.739 --> 00:47:28.380
my mom was the same way. We'll ask the right

00:47:28.380 --> 00:47:30.500
question. And my daughter feels the same way,

00:47:30.699 --> 00:47:32.739
too. As a matter of fact, we used to think that

00:47:32.739 --> 00:47:34.860
she was seeing spirits because of the way her

00:47:34.860 --> 00:47:37.960
eyes were and what was taking place. And so,

00:47:38.059 --> 00:47:40.079
oh, I just think you are amazing. OK. So how

00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:41.579
could people work with you? Because that's the

00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:43.619
most that. That's important because it's healing.

00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:45.900
So all right. First of all, are you on every

00:47:45.900 --> 00:47:48.000
social media platform? And is that your name?

00:47:48.380 --> 00:47:50.619
I'm on pretty much everything under my name.

00:47:50.780 --> 00:47:53.639
Yes. So look for you, Callie, Sparta. OK, beautiful.

00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.000
I'm going to have nice show notes, by the way.

00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:56.519
And you got some quotes that will be in there.

00:47:57.099 --> 00:47:59.280
OK, so OK, beautiful. I'm going to like. dip

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.059
dive and follow you, then your website, which

00:48:02.059 --> 00:48:04.280
is on the bottom, which is amazing. I have to

00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.340
say, I think it's one of the best websites. And

00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:07.840
I only saw it for like three minutes. I'm like,

00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:09.900
three seconds. I'm like, I gotta go in here.

00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.159
Okay. And the retreats. And then you have a calendar

00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.869
so people can book. Yes, so if you book a discovery

00:48:17.869 --> 00:48:19.869
call, I can help you figure out what's going

00:48:19.869 --> 00:48:22.929
to be the best program for you. If you're looking

00:48:22.929 --> 00:48:25.530
at the Woo series, because in my Woo series,

00:48:25.789 --> 00:48:27.590
so it's Welcome to the Woo, Woo Squared, Woo

00:48:27.590 --> 00:48:31.309
You, it's a two -year process that takes you

00:48:31.309 --> 00:48:34.269
through 25 years of personal growth work and

00:48:34.269 --> 00:48:37.250
about 10 to 15 years of energetic training in

00:48:37.250 --> 00:48:40.099
that two years. And it does it without melting

00:48:40.099 --> 00:48:42.539
you down. And it does it not taking more than

00:48:42.539 --> 00:48:46.980
maybe 15 minutes a day. And so it is very efficient.

00:48:47.539 --> 00:48:50.079
I basically, I took my journey and every time

00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.599
something worked on my journey, I wrote it down.

00:48:52.980 --> 00:48:57.519
And so 98 % of any spiritual journey is spent

00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:59.679
trying to figure out what you need and then where

00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.780
to get it. And so I just take that part out and

00:49:02.780 --> 00:49:05.179
that's why it can happen so fast, right? Wow.

00:49:05.579 --> 00:49:09.320
So if you don't know where in that series you

00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:12.000
fit and you're not sure which of those courses

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:13.900
to take but you know you want to go through that

00:49:13.900 --> 00:49:16.000
process because it takes you from, you know,

00:49:16.219 --> 00:49:18.380
fear and anxiety and worry and dread and self

00:49:18.380 --> 00:49:20.460
-doubt and inner and outer judgment and, you

00:49:20.460 --> 00:49:23.219
know, all of that stuff, right, that we start

00:49:23.219 --> 00:49:25.900
with, right? It takes you from that place to

00:49:25.900 --> 00:49:28.579
a place of mental, emotional and energetic safety.

00:49:29.179 --> 00:49:31.599
Safety that's the first program second program

00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.039
takes you to a place of Solidity in yourself

00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.159
and your identity and that does that through

00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.860
Show you how to claim your space set your boundaries

00:49:39.860 --> 00:49:42.559
own your power internalize your sense of value

00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.980
and learn how to love yourself We also do heart

00:49:45.980 --> 00:49:48.440
-opening and clearing the well of rage in that

00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:53.159
one as well as a whole lot of this way Well we

00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.579
in the program that's what we're doing me Oh,

00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:58.659
okay. I love it. I love it. I guess I was like,

00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:01.320
wait, you have more people? Well, I do have a

00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.840
coach that helps me to train. I have a couple

00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:05.719
of coaches who help me train the first program.

00:50:06.900 --> 00:50:11.500
But yes, we together, me and the clients work

00:50:11.500 --> 00:50:15.239
together and we do also work and things like

00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.800
that. Yeah. Yeah. And so. That one takes you

00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.599
to a solid identity in a solid energetic container.

00:50:22.780 --> 00:50:25.440
And what that does is get you ready to do your

00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.380
shadow work because now you have a solid container

00:50:27.380 --> 00:50:30.619
to do that shadow work in. And so shadow work,

00:50:30.659 --> 00:50:34.679
if you don't know the term, is it's digging out

00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:36.659
all the stuff that you went left hiding under

00:50:36.659 --> 00:50:38.519
your bed or shoved in the back of your closet

00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:40.000
or the stuff that you didn't want to look at

00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.940
because it was too dark and too dirty and too

00:50:41.940 --> 00:50:44.679
unpleasant and whatever. You have to dig all

00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:46.420
that crap out if you want to have a happy life.

00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.980
Right. And so the solid container allows you

00:50:49.980 --> 00:50:52.239
to do that. And so if you don't know if you have

00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.800
a solid container, here's a quick way to know

00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.679
that if you go to do something big for yourself

00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.300
and you have to build up energy, build up energy,

00:51:00.300 --> 00:51:02.059
build up energy and then pull the trigger immediately

00:51:02.059 --> 00:51:04.440
on the decision or else all the energy drains

00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.079
back out again. You do not have a solid container.

00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.420
If you have a solid container, you can make a

00:51:09.420 --> 00:51:11.500
decision and hold it for an infinite period of

00:51:11.500 --> 00:51:13.119
time until you're ready to pull that trigger.

00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.110
Right. And so. We get you to that stage in the

00:51:17.110 --> 00:51:19.070
second one, right? That's that's the next stage

00:51:19.070 --> 00:51:23.610
and then the third stage is to get you to sovereignty

00:51:23.610 --> 00:51:28.480
and so now that you have gotten your container

00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.320
solid. Now the next piece is to learn how to

00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.119
do your self -inquiry work and to map out your

00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.480
inner psyche so that you know all of your buttons,

00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.000
all of your triggers, all of the things that

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.280
impact you so that anytime something comes up,

00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.199
you know how to deal with it and you have dealt

00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:49.719
with it to a level where it does not It does

00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.360
not cease you from functioning while you're experiencing

00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.619
it, right? You've you've processed enough of

00:51:55.619 --> 00:51:58.920
it that you can go. Oh, yeah, I'm I'll have to

00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:03.139
look at that later, right? But it's not a Right,

00:52:03.139 --> 00:52:05.559
so which is what it is for most people when you

00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.219
first start, right? And so by the end of that

00:52:09.219 --> 00:52:12.500
program you are so solid in yourself and you

00:52:12.500 --> 00:52:15.400
have so many skills under your belt you can do

00:52:15.739 --> 00:52:18.639
all of your own work from there forward pretty

00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.039
much on your own because you have everything

00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.840
you need to do it and you're completely solid

00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:26.239
and you are now safe to work with other people.

00:52:26.500 --> 00:52:28.800
So if you want to be a practitioner That's the

00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:30.780
place you want to be at. That's that's how you

00:52:30.780 --> 00:52:33.719
are not a wounded healer as you get to that place

00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:35.920
of sovereignty wounded healer. That's all right.

00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.360
I gotta let you go. It's been 52 minutes. I feel

00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.940
horrible you And you know what? I love what you

00:52:40.940 --> 00:52:44.699
just are so Like pleasant and like the way I

00:52:44.699 --> 00:52:47.219
just like I could just see being with you I would

00:52:47.219 --> 00:52:49.360
just have my eyes on you like all day long. I

00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.619
just be like That's me. I've been the audience

00:52:51.619 --> 00:52:55.599
just staring at you. I oh my gosh, okay. I'm

00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:57.559
sorry you and you like I don't even know what

00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.980
to say. Okay Thank you. You're welcome and let

00:53:00.980 --> 00:53:02.820
me just say one more thing if somebody isn't

00:53:02.820 --> 00:53:05.320
sure we're in that process that they belong because

00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:07.219
they've done some work before They can take the

00:53:07.219 --> 00:53:08.980
quiz on the website and it'll tell them exactly

00:53:08.980 --> 00:53:13.099
where they belong. Yeah Okay. This is amazing.

00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.139
I cannot thank you enough. Thank you. I don't

00:53:15.139 --> 00:53:17.559
even know how we met, but I'm so happy that you,

00:53:17.780 --> 00:53:20.820
I just say yes. And I'm sure I love the person,

00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:24.639
but I had no idea. I am like just blown away.

00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:27.639
So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I hope to

00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.480
work with you and thank you for the advice you

00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:32.739
gave me. I really appreciate that. That was really

00:53:32.739 --> 00:53:37.179
touched by heart and everyone see, play bold,

00:53:37.300 --> 00:53:40.500
beautiful. This was this could go down as the

00:53:40.500 --> 00:53:42.260
best one if you're if you were already guessed

00:53:42.260 --> 00:53:45.539
on the show you're you are fantastic We all have

00:53:45.539 --> 00:53:46.900
to have a favorite. I'm not gonna feel guilty.

00:53:47.019 --> 00:53:51.079
I do feel like I'm saying it, but I am like over

00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:54.199
250 podcasts I did during COVID started this

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so yes, yes, yes, you are lovely Thank you Kelly

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so much and I'm just so excited to share share

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share everything that you put out So thank you.

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Thank you for having me. This has been wonderful

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You're wonderful. Okay, we're gonna end the stream

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Wow Okay, you go and go to the